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Post your component list, rate other anons', ask questions in general.

Always state the purpose of your PC, your budget, AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA.
If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price or to improve specs or build quality.

>Assemble your parts list with price comparisons by vendor and compatibility filter.
https://pcpartpicker.com

>Gaming builds based on purpose or display resolution / Hz
>To activate the Description, select build from sidebar then click on the title over the parts list
>Description contains notes, other options, and build skeleton for easy customization / cost savings
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/

>Have a budget, but don't know where to start? This will recommend you a parts list based on price.
>Consider substituting an i5 6500 for any RX470/480 or GTX 1060 build
>Consider a B150 mobo for any i3 build
>Add an SSD to the "Great" tier build
>Consider stock fan+heatsink for any i3 or locked i5 build
http://www.logicalincrements.com/

>General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice, Windows activation information.
http://pastebin.com/9Pbm4nHL

>Information about how to assemble a PC, how to select components, etc.
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC


If you see any other build advice or part list threads, direct them here with >>>/g/pcbg

Old Thread: >>57526640
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Do i really need an anti static meme band?

Other than a phillips screwdriver, what else i might need?
Would magnetic tip screwdrivers be a problem?
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I have an i5-2500, an Intel DB75EN and a GTX 650 Ti BOOST. Time to upgrade?
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>>57542923
Yes, static protection is good. Use a metal bench with and ground you and the bench to a common point.
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>Consider substituting an i5 6500 for any RX470/480 or GTX 1060 build

Not sure what the OP meant by this. Substitute as in get a higher end CPU than that?
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>>57542923
>anti static meme band?
No, make sure to touch some metal and use anti-static packaging your parts come with.
>screwdriver
Get this beauty, it's everything you need:
http://www.thermalright.de/en/accessories/26/screwdriver-for-hr-02-macho
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How does this looks for a simple PC?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/xXnc4C

Case would be a old compaq case.
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Can somebody help me choose a power supply? The EVGA 650 GQ and Seasonic m12ii 620w are both on sale for $70 right now, and I can't really tell which one is better. Johnnyguru reviewed both units, and they're both in the "almost flawless" category. I'll only be using about 500w under load with a 6600k and 1070 even after overclocking so the 30w doesn't matter to me. I don't pay electric bill so the efficiency doesn't matter to me. I just want reliability and build quality.

tl;dr Seasonic bronze or EVGA gold at the same price point?
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>>57543008
Also EVGA 500W is cheaper than EVGA 430W here.
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>>57543021
>500w under load with a 6600k and 1070
Lol, no.
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>>57543008
for what just web browsing? Yeah, more than fine. The ram might be a slight limit though, if you use a bunch of chrome tabs. I'm using 62% of my 8gb of memory atm. Another optional upgrade is a cheap-ass 120gb SSD for boot drive, but purely optional. Personally I think it's worth to make the system snappier.
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>>57543068
wait disregard that memory usage number, I forgot that I had World of Warcraft running in the background sucking up a whole GB of memory.

>>57543067
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/sxRQGf pcpartpicker says about 356 watts, but I'm also accounting for overclocking which could use another chunk of power. Sure, it's probably more like 470w absolute max, but I like having the headroom.
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>>57543068
Web browsing and netbeans, i will trow another 4GB stick later on.

Sadly $250 was the limit of the budget, i hope i get some good deals this friday and monday.
And 120GB wont do, that is why i dropped the idea of a SSD.
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>>57543139
No way. You MIGHT hit 390 watts with both the GPU and CPU overlocked heavily.
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>>57543149
Well, I meant a 120gb drive to use as a boot drive, and have all your stored stuff on the 1tb drive. This is something you can do later, just make sure to back up any files, and then clean reinstall your OS. Very simple. But yeah ssd in a $250 machine really isn't going to work.
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>>57543008
Good, but i really recommend you 8GB. I made an alternative build, yes it's more expensive, but it also offer you more.
CPU is same, mobo is cheaper, 8GB of RAM will give you more room for everything and the SSD for OS and maybe some progs will let your PC fly.
You have an old case, but i guess the Core 1000 has USB 3.0, a dust filter and more silent fans going for it. Gamaxx 300 is mroe quiet than the stock cooler as well.
For 330 bucks you'll get everything you need and you can add something like a RX460 later on:
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/qcg22R
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>>57542947
Only graphics + SSD

>>57542987
Those LI builds all have i3s.. Except for (hilariously) the 6GB 1060 build, which has the i5 6500. Not very logical
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Feel free to tell me all the stuff I did wrong, cause I know for a fact I fucked something up.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/tK7zkT
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>>57543334
>I know for a fact I fucked something up
Yes, you did. Get a non-trash PSU like the EVGA 500B or something from SeaSonic/XFX.
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I can get a pny 1080 fe for $420. Is it worth it or should I just wait for Vega? Building in an ncase m1.
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>>57543334
I'm in agreement with >>57543361, Corsair CX power supplies are trash. Their higher end stuff is fantastic, but the CX models are made from shoddy Chinese parts. Also, unless you actually plan to upgrade to 16gb ram in the future (for 1080p gaymen you really don't need to), get a dual channel kit.

Also use Ethernet. Routing some cables isn't as hard as you think it is. Ask anybody you know that's competent with tools and i bet you they've routed cable at least once before. If you insist on wifi in a presumably temporary setup, get a cheaper wifi adapter, unless you know for a fact that you get over 100 mp/s wifi speeds.
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>>57542640
I'm currently thinking about getting >pic related

I'm a 3D Artist, soon Tech-Student for something interesting

I live in Germany

Currently my income increases every month (started this year with 200€ a month and now I'm at 600+ a month) + income from other sources I'm at 1600'€ a month.

My Machine cant handle what I'm doing right now. It's 3D related stuff almost for 5 hours a day at home and 7-9 outside(rendering when I'm done). Except at weekends, sometimes my machine works for 36 hours within 48hours.

Would that setup will get my work faster done?

What would I really need to get faster render times?

Should I rather buy an Nvidia Workstation Setup?

32GB DDR4-2400 DIMM CL15 Quad// CL15 24, or 30?
650 Watt be quiet! Pro 11 Modular 80+//should be enough
8192MB Asus GeForce GTX 1080 Strix// seems more like a gamin card to me
A Intel Z170 So.1151 Dual //Dualslot?
Corsair H115i// might consider another one
i7 6700K 4x 4.00GHz So.1151 WOF
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>>57542947
I have an i5 4430 and 650ti. Upgrading to i5 6600k and rx480
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>>57543361
>>57543444
So the issue with the PSU I picked is the manufacturer itself? Cause I was worried that 450W would be too low or something. Thanks guys.

And yeah I was considering just ditching the Wi-Fi and going for ethernet since I have one in my room, the only issue is that it's on the other side of the room so I'll have to do some shenanigans to get it across.
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>>57543266
If only i had $330 anon.

I will end getting a H110 motherbard in the end though.
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>>57543383
Worth it, if that's USD
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>>57543514
450W is fine for your purpose, just don't get a budget Corsair, those are trash. Get another PSU as suggested.

>>57543555
You could get some parts later on. If you ask me it's an overall good build with good value and yes, get a H110 if you're on a tight budget.
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>>57543514

> Cause I was worried that 450W would be too low or something.

A quality unit will deliver its rated wattage on the 12v rail (i.e the important part) without even flinching. A shanghai street special...will not.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=379

Top tip: your psu is by far the one component you never, ever skimp on when building a PC. You can cut corners to reduce cost nearly everywhere else but never, ever cheap out on a psu.
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>>57543514
Yes, 450w is absolutely fine for that setup, provided that you are using a quality unit.
Ethernet vs wifi, you get a more stable connection that is less susceptible to interruptions or interference from other wireless devices, you get a higher speed almost every time, you don't have to buy a wifi adapter. Whatever shenanigans you have in mind to move around your setup, I bet it's not as inconvenient from being disconnected mid-game, or having a video stop loading for no apparent reason, and always having a slow connection.
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>>57543452
You might consider dual socket xeons, the x99 platform
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>>57543704
x99 does not scale past a single socket.
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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/9dz22R

My budget is $1,000 and lower.

Want to game and program. Not interested in VR yet.

Thoughts? Anything I should change? Maybe reduce the price?

I have a nice mechanical keyboard and mouse already, and a buddy is giving me his extra 1080p 24" monitor for free. I can get the OS through work.
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>>57543638
>>57543636
>>57543588
K, so I looked through some parts and decided that I should get a full modular one since I read that the case I bought has some less-than-stellar cable management.

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/TgW9TW/seasonic-power-supply-m12ii520bronze

This any good?
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>>57543755
Yes it's a good PSU, but also an expensive one. If you can forgo the modularity of the PSU you can get the EVGA 500B for 42 bucks.
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/zNK7YJ/evga-power-supply-100b10500kr
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any opinions on corsair 200R? Any exceptional budget cases out there?

been out of the loop for many years, but I've never had a case without a front intake fan.
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are there any existing PC games that the i3-6100 can't play?
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>>57543755
yes, that unit is fuggin fantastic. If you're in that price tier though, this EVGA 650w gold rated unit is the same price on newegg and amazon
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kz7CmG/evga-power-supply-210gq0650

This one is only $60 (for the next 3 days) and seems pretty darn good:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/n48H99/fractal-design-power-supply-fdpsuin3b550w
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>>57543754
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/9dz22R
Damn bruh, lemme fix dat up fo yo fo sho.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3vc22R
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>>57543713
So it would be C6XX?
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>>57543754
Get an i5 6600k, and a seasonic PSU instead, the 212 evo is a plenty fine cooler too for half the cost. Not sure if you can stay in budget with all that, maybe sacrifice the SSD to get a better CPU and buy the SSD later on.
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>>57543854
Can't? No. Can't play locked 60FPS? Yes.

>>57543754
Looks like on of those expensive logicalincrements builds
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>>57543873
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3vc22R
good, but here's my suggestion if the anon looking to build this doesn't plan on Overclocking:

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/hRbqhq
the black / red asthetic can be toned down by using the plain black version of this case. The MSI card has a $15 rebate not listed on pcpartpicker.
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>>57543887
Yes. Dual socket isn't necessary for him. I would suggest an x99 workstation board and an E5-1600 series processor. He can overclock that way and it will provide him with meaningful acceleration for his 3d modeling software.
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more like assrock lol
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ive never been this early
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/BKVzkT
im only playin vidya, but i heard to just get the k CPU, my budget and question go hand in hand, my budget is 2k, and i was wondering if theres anything i should upgrade that will hit the 2k budget, or if i should just save the money. ty
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>>57543067
It's easily doable, at most with overclocking it's 350w from the CPU/GPU alone
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>>57544029
You want to use up the whole 2k to get the best possible machine, or do you want to shave down while keeping the same quality level? because i could help with either of those.
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>>57544004
But what's the difference between the 4gb and 8gb rx 480? How will that affect my performance?
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>>57543307
Why not? I3 does fine in games for cheap, isn't that the point?
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>>57544172
well i really dont mind spending the 2k, i guess my question at first was is there anything crucial to a high level build to add (i.e. a better motherboard, more ram etc) but i guess suggestions to shave off some money in some places would be helpful as well, ty.
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>>57544213
Always balance price to performance. There is 0 reason to spend more up front (apart from mobo or GPU/PSU) if you plan on replacing parts in the future.
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>>57544170
You'll get the 6600k to consume like 50 watts and the GPU probably something like 180 watts. So with overclocking I'd say you'd be unlucky to break 275 watts with moderate overclocking.
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>>57544213
Get a cheap motherboard, cheap ram (for the MHz you want), a cheap CPU cooler, cheap case, maybe a cheap SSD, but sploorge on the rest of the parts
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>>57544277
I wouldn't get a cheap mobo unless you plan to start over with just the case at some point, like buying a last gen GPU at heavy discount.
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>>57544183
VRAM memory, that's it.

If you like to run a lot of textures on skyrim and shit, sooper high detail and whatnot, get the 8GB.
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>>57544264
6600k has a TDP of 95w at stock clock/voltage
1070s are 150w TDP stock (180w factory OC) but I'm sure OCing to 200w isn't unreasonable
Either way it's well under 400w and barely over 300w if that
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>>57544298
last gen CPU* fuck.
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>>57544298
Get a cheap motherboard, don't get a decade-old socket
It's not that hard to hold yourself back from buying $500 motherboards god damn
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>>57544316
You should always buy last-gen CPUs if you can find them at a heavy discount, there's almost no improvement in the high-end from gen to gen.
You show me a 2600k for under $100 and I'll sell my i7 right now
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>>57544183
games at 1080p generally will not use more than 2gb of VRAM. A few memory hogs will get to about 3gb, like GTAV, but I haven't really seen any games use more than 3gb. At 1440p (2k) more titles will get closer and closer to that 4gb ram mark, so having more vram is a bit of a comfort.
You CAN drop some extra dollars to get more Vram but you won't even begin to see benefit, let alone need it, for at least 2 years IMO. If you're the type of person who gets the "upgrade itch", save the cash, get the 4gb model. If you can just live with it for 3+ years, then maybe the 8gb model will give you a little longevity.
In terms of Raw fps, performance will be exactly the same unless the game chews through vram like Michael Moore through sandwiches.
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>>57544318
It's not like you have to spend 500 to get one that lasts either, but getting something for $80 that's a piece of shit isn't going to help you in the long run either. I'd rather spend 150 on something decent from MSI or gigabyte over a $70 pos asrock mobo.
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>>57544342
That's what I did, Built a 4690k in January for $900 and I'm set for a while. But most people want to jump straight to 1151 since it's the new standard.
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>>57544366
I got my gigabyte ultra durable Z170 for $80, I don't know if that's "cheap shit" but it's worth buying over the $400 "GOD MAXIMUS EPEEN BITCH MAGNET SUBZERO" with the exact same functionality that seems to pop up in everybody's list
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>>57544397
Yes that's perfectly fine, you just need to be conscious of quality below the $100 mark on most mobos that seem like a good deal. Once you get past the $2-300 mark you're just paying for quality or extra ports and flashy junk.
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Kind of a stupid question here, but I've been hearing that it's cheaper to buy a premade pc nowadays than to build one.

Is this true? Price comparisons usually come out to it being the same. Is there really a benefit to building it yourself if you can find something for the same price that has everything you need?
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>>57544436
I was also wondering this but the 10 seconds of searching I did only found bundles with OS already installed, which is dumb and gay.
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Can someone point me to a midsized matte navy blue case? I dont want to fuck with painting it myself if I dont have to
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>>57544436
its cheaper building it yourself, especially with black friday coming up. the advantages of building it yourself is you get the knowledge of your computer, inside and out, which helps for repairing/adding new parts.
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>>57544436
Prebuilt could come with a garbage PSU to save cost, shipping weight will cost you a chunk of change in the US, generally you get worse parts overall for a prebuilt and pay more. Spending 2-4 hours building a PC to save you 300-500 dollars is well worth it, plus you have the freedom of choice to get quailty parts from manufacturers.
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>>57544466
Wouldn't that be cheaper for faggots like me who need windows?

>>57544478
That's true, I never thought of it that way.

I also completely forgot black friday was a thing. Any store/site recommendations?
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>>57544436
If it's the same price with the same parts go for it
But odds are there's plenty of shit parts thrown in either the build, covered up by "INTEL CORE I7" or "NVIDIA GTX GRAPHICS"
If it's the exact same price, I'd still build my own because it's fucking easy first of all, I make sure there's only parts I want in it, and I get all the performance out of my dollar without a shitty PSU or motherboard (the most common garbage parts in prebuilts) limiting my options
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>>57544470
Does it need to be entirely blue? You can find plenty of black matte/blue steel 2 tone like a plain nzxt case, But most cases are not going to be navy fucking blue.
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>>57544029
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/BKVzkT
This is how I would make this list:
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fVKYLD
If you need the dvd drive, I recommend a corsair 500r, since it has great mounting points for radiators. If you want to go with the cryorig h7 as in your original list (good choice for a decent but cheap air cooler btw), I recommend using a nzxt S340 for a case.
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>>57544503
Most websites (Newegg, SuperBlitz, etc) will have sales during black friday. Best Buy, for being a shitty store, has good black friday sales
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>>57544568
Oh, and if you want to completely fill that $2k, you can (just barely) squeeze in a gtx 1080.
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>>57544007
>>57543704
Thx but as you saw my income an Intel Xeon E5-2690 v4 is not possible right now or in near future, so I might stay at the setup I listed atleast for 1-2 years till I get the money for 2-4x E5's
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I saw this picture at the end of the last thread, and I'm wondering if making something this small is idiotic, or actually functional.

Obviously heat management would be a nightmare, so what exactly are you limiting yourself to if you make a computer this size?
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>>57544750
Fuck me I'm retarded. This was what I was talking about.
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>>57542640
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7vqc4C
Can someone suggest anything to improve on?
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Why do people waste their savings for dual-core i3s when you could buy a 8 core FX-8320E that easily OCs to 5 GHz for less money?
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>>57544769
thats cute
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>>57544832
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Close to ordering this.

Goal is 60fps gaming on 1920x1200 now and future. This should do right?
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>>57544869
link to build http://pcpartpicker.com/list/hfwNvV
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>>57544832
Because that piece of shit draws power like a bitch and can't take DDR4. Fuck this.
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>>57544869
>Housefire CPU
>Housefire GPU
>HTPC case


Those small form factor cases are usually meant to be used with 35W CPUs and iGPUs.
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GPU recently died and I'm looking for a replacement. Not having anything specific in mind but I usually hear prices are lower around the holidays. Anyone from germany/netherlands able to give me some specifics on sale periods?
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>>57544869
>1070
>6600K
Yeah you should be fine at 1920 for quite some time. Technically 1060 would be enough, but I suppose the 1070 will last longer. Plus if you ever wanted to go to 1440, you could with ease.
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>>57544832
From my understanding, AMD cores are a lot different from Intels. That's all I've heard about it in terms of cores.

Also like other AMD stuff it takes a lot more power.
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>>57544908
With the noctua and the fact that the card is seperated in the case I should be fine.
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>>57544927
Might consider getting a 2000p monitor then. This setup would still be fine?
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>>57544962
Im retarded, meant 1600p
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>>57544869
Don't overclock in that case, geez
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I'm building a rackmount server for Tor onions. Any recommendations and what I'll need (other than the server, switch, etc)
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>>57545084
A good laywer
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>>57545036
Maybe I'll consider just getting a i5-6500 then, don't wanna die in a fire desu
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>>57545084
pepperoni and mushroom
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>>57545100
>falling for the non k meme

your computer is going to be SO SLOW without that extra 0.1ghz
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I built my pc a couple of months ago, got windows 10 as OS and 16 gigs of ram, towards the end of the day after playing games and browsing on it, after I close most of the applications, my pc is using most of the ram. Like i'll have my browser open and it'll use 80 to 99% of the ram or if I have a game open it'll do the same. I have to restart it to get everything back to normal. Anyone know whats up with that? is it normal?
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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/CWWx2R
Does OCZ make good SSDs?
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>>57545164
>windows 10
What did you think would happen
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>>57545164
We aren't tech support buddy. But it sounds like something software is wrong. You may have a virus.
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>>57545100
Different case maybe? There's plenty of mini ITX cases with enough cooling room.
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who wants a usb-c on the back panel and what device are they using? am I a luddite for just wishing it was another nice hot baby blue 3.0 port?
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>looking at uk.pcpartpicker.com
>no thermite detonator components
Is it just the uk site, or are there none at all?
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Is a 350W PSU going to be more than enough for a build based around an i3 6100 and the Nvidia GTX 1050, or should I go for a 450 just to be sure?
I'm considering https://www.overclockers.co.uk/super-flower-golden-green-hx-350w-80-plus-gold-power-supply-black-ca-001-sf.html since Super Flower are considered fairly reputable.
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Crucial MX300 2.5" 275GB for 60 bucks. Is it worth buying this now or should I wait and hope for an 850 price drop.

This seems like its well received from what I've read but I'm worried the 850 will drop in price around black Friday.
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>>57545849
Just wait. Don't prices usually drop around Christmas as well?
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>>57545809
350W will be enough, but it will also limit your future possibilities.
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>>57543854
Wolfenstein: TNO requires an i7 for some reason and won't play unless you've got one, but that's literally the only one I can think of.
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>>57544470
Going to have to pay out the ass for a custom case, or tear one down and paint it yourself.
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>>57545876
An i7? That's fucking retarded. Why would bethesda code it like that?
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>>57545961
>bethesda doing anything right
wew
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>>57545973
Hey man, Bethesda did good on skyrim and new doom. But fuck me, if my 1070 i7 6700k build cant handle dishonored 2 at 60fps then idk how they expect to sell that game. Doesnt it run at like 20fps on consoles?
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Will people look at me funny if I take my computer into a pc cafe and download stuff on their gigabit internet? Ausfag who sits on about 330kbps down at best here. Am I autistic?
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Looking for a new GPU, any suggestions? id like to stay around $300CA if i can .
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http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/kycWf8
1. Is it worth spending the extra 30 bucks or so on better CPU cooling and PSU? I can afford it but dont want to blow money on something that won't make a meaningful difference.
2. Will this build give me 1080p 60fps on highest settings on modern AAA games?
3. Good places to get monitors? They're all really fuckin expensive at the moment.
4. I live in Tropical Queensland, in the Summer it can hit up to like 35 degrees celsius and get pretty humid as well. Is this something I should take into account when I'm doing my cooling?
Thanks desus, I'll trade biden memes for help
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>>57546093
i dont play AAA titles, but would like to kind of future proof myself for a bit.
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>>57545876
I just played that game at 45-60FPS with an FX 6350 and an RX 470.

>>57545961
Oh thou gullible anon
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>>57546093
gtx1060
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i'm back with an idea build. how can I save some cash, or spend the same on greater value?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/B72HRG

my only explicit need is 6+ sata ports.
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>>57546096
Looks like a pretty solid build, you shouldn't have any issues at 60fps for most titles. Cooling is always an issue with PC's, for the few dollars it costs, it is totally worth it.

Asus has some pretty cheap 1080p monitors. check out Asus VP228H. In Canada they're just over $100.
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>>57546134
Thats pretty much what I have settled on, just wanted some more input. I have a pre-built PC, do you think i will have any issues with that card and my motherboard?

Also, would the 1050 be a step down or should I just spend the money on the 1060?
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>>57546208
Do some research. Pretty sure you should be fine but worth making sure anyway
The 1050 is 10 less than the 1060, take from that what you will
I would spend the money
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>>57546232
Alright, thanks for your input anon.
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>>57546093
8GB 480 for maximum futurproofiness or 1060 6GB. Can definitely go for the 4GB version of the 480, you probably won't be sorry.

>>57546208
If you have a prebuilt you probably can't use the GTX 1060 (at least, not without PCIe power connectors like a 6+2pin).. best card you can get is the likely to be the 1050Ti, but make sure to get a model that doesn't require extra power, because some aftermarket cards require a 6pin so that the user can OC
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Question: Would an i7 6700K be overkill for SFM? Should I consider an i5 instead?
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>>57546282
i was just reading about this. I think I might have to look into a new power supply as well. currently have a 460W, but from what i was reading on Dells forums, they can go quite a bit higher to support higher powered GPUs.
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>>57546435
I'll tell you if you post your tumblr porn
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>>57546141
If you stick with the Z170, get 3000MHz RAM
You can drop to a B150 if you know that you're never going to buy a K (unlocked CPU). In that case keep the 2133 RAM

Needs and SSD

>>57546096
CPU cooling is already too expensive.. seems like too little CFM, but maybe it's fine for the i5

Not on the absolute highest settings, no.

Queensland's Craigslist for a 1080p 60Hz monitor

>>57546027
Yes, bring a laptop dummy.

>>57545849
Wait to see if there are any sales, but if not just buy the MX300 ASAP because flash memory prices are rising

>>57545526
>>>/diy/

>>57545381
Everyone hates your build

>>57545084
Proper OPSEC, a knowledge of a secure Linux distro
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>>57546459
You can't just swap out the PSU because there is usually a strange connection between the mobo and the PSU instead of the standard 20 or 24-pin
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>>57546484
>>57546096
Do I buy fans to increase cfm? What's the ideal ratio of input/output fans? First build, I'm pretty clueless.
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>>57546584
No it's a number associated with the cooler, aka how many cubic feet of air passes through the cooler per minute
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>>57546184
Thanks for the monitor desu, as promised
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>>57546609
Ah okay. What are some reputable cheap cpu coolers?
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Should I get a gfx 1080 for $420 or 1070 + 500gb m2 sata SSD for $390. Already have a 1tb and 250gb SSD though. I have a 25" 1440p @ 60hz monitor and i7-6700k.
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>>57546739
get the 1080, the ssd is effectively useless if you already have one and when people ask you can puff out your chest and say you have a 1080
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>>57546004
Honestly I can't begrudge Dishonored 2 its Denuvo

>>57545164
You can see which program or service is hogging all the memory from task manager. Click on details and then add the memory column

>>57544832
AM3+ is completely outdated
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>>57546737
The meme one is the Hyper 212 Evo

>>57546739
I'm inclined to say 1070 without the SSD. Could buy the 1080 if you wanted to at that price
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Need a computer that can be my gf please advise
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>>57546840
we all do, anon...
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>>57546840
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/Y3vVnQ
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>>57546817
1070 Without the SSD is like 300. The fact is I have 3x $100 off $300 offers on Dell.com. their ram is slow and overpriced. Figuring out what to blow my money on. I can wait for a u3415w as well but those are rare and sell out quickly on the outlet. I am on integrated graphics at the moment.
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>>57546896
in that case get the 1080
wont have to worry about graphics for another 5 years desu
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Alright /g/...Im in a situation. I need to bring my rig into the modern era, as im currently using a 10-year pre-built from Bestbuy that Ive made slight modifications to over the years.

The only things that are fine are my new GTX950 GPU, and my Antec 750W PSU.

I need a new OS, Motherboard, CPU, and Cooling Fans.

I believe my Memory Drive is also fine, and while not optimal...I believe my 8GB of DDR2 RAM is also fine.

Can I get some help?
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Whats the advantages of getting the z-170 deluxe as opposed to the z170-a?
I am debating, want to make sure there are no hiccups with ram overclocking and such
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>>57546961
>I need a new motherboard, CPU, OS
>My DDR2 RAM is fine
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>>57546961
Are you sure that the case accepts a standard form factor mobo? Honestly I'd go all out and get a new, modern case.

Without the graphics card, you're looking at $350 for something like this

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=Jhyf7P
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>>57546961
>Memory Drive
????
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>>57547074
I meant storage, sorry.

>>57547057
my case is after market yeah. It just barely fits my GTX950 though, so I might need to upgrade that...

>>57547047
I was skeptical, i said. If it needs upgrading, it needs upgrading. Its why im asking for help.
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Do (decent) components get any love from Black Friday sales?
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I bought a 3tb drive 4 years ago despite people saying they were unreliable and it's still chuggin away like a champion.

where are the 10 tb drives? 20? where is the hoarding technology? why can't I affordably store an exhaustive amount of anime tiddies without needing a ton of drives?
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>>57546988
The Z-170 A/AR is fine for overclocking it's intuitive enough to make you think you missed a step.
The only reason to get the Deluxe is that it looks slightly cooler, has a Debug/QCode sensor on the board, shit tons of SATA ports, and a clear Bios switch.

If that's worth the extra $80 bucks to you then go for it, if I had the money I would have probably shat it away on a deluxe as well just for the onboard buttons, but 90 percent of it is the same.
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>>57547156
there's no market for autists like you so big name manufacturers dont invest in the technology
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>>57547132
SSDs sometimes. Cases and video cards
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>>57547211

So no point in holding out for anything particularly special coming through on sale then?
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>>57547261
Video cards are the most expensive components of a computer, its probably worth the week wait or however long it is
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So I´m gonna buy a 1070, should I buy a ultrawide 144hz or just a 1440p 144hz monitor?

I mainly play Titanfall 2
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>>57547309
It depends how autistic you are
Look deep inside yourself and you will find the answer
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>>57547166
can it actually support 3400?
I ask because it seems like a lot of these manufacturers lie, every review place has a different number for max support mem freq, and some places have a * next to the number
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>>57547309
1440p 144Hz

Friend of mine sprung for an ultrawide. He has all kinds of resolution problems in some games.
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>>57547309
I like my 1070 and 1440p 144hz
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will i regret going mini itx?
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>>57547721
yes
just go atx dont meme yourself
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>>57547721
Can you properly plan cooling? Are you ok with having no room for expansion? Are you clumsy?
If your answers are anything other than Yes, Yes, No, then you will not have a good time.
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>>57543818
I have one and it is nice.
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>>57547721
Depends on the build.. Things are trending toward power efficiency, so as long as you're staying at 1080p I think you'll be fine
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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/f7NRzM
Is this good enough for 1440p/60fps and 1440/144hz for eSports?
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>>57547939
yes
you can cut down the cost on the meme parts like the cpu cooler and the psu
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>>57544301
TDP is not equal to power consumption.
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>>57544674
Just buy what I said to buy. You can get that for less than the price of even a mid range E5-2600v4.
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>>57547939
esports like dota, cs:go, LoL, Overwatch, ect? Yes, that's overkill as fuck. Most competitive epsorts players like to play at 1080p (144hz ofc) though because once your screen is too big, you start spending more time moving your eyes around the screen, rather than seeing the whole picture in front of you.
If you don't care about that and just want the games to look sexy as fuck, that setup is more than good enough to play E-sports games at 4k.
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>>57548006
But it could be
Still he wouldn't need much wattage
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>>57548023
>But it could be
Sure it could be equal, but the two are unrelated.
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>>57547939
If you're good at any of the esports get in touch with some pc building sites and see if you can get a sponsorship and maybe they'll build you a computer for free
I know qtpie got a gtx1080 build for free from pccasegear
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>>57547989
>>57548018
>>57548063
Thanks for the info, and the only eSports I play are CS:GO and DotA 2 so I'm only a little autistic, but I also want to be able to play AAA games at 1440p/60fps since I don't care about frame rate as much in those.
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>>57548205
then you should get a 6600k, a gtx 1070, a cheap cooler like the Cryorig H7 or similar, clock your cpu to about 4.1 / 4.2ghz. You will hit 1440/ 60 easy.
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Can you /g/uys help me? How do you overclock an Achivia Shimian monitor? I love the 1440p resolution, and it was pretty cheap too, but I can't stand the 60hz refresh rate. I wanna make the most out of my 1070. Thanks desu
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>>57548390
You won't be able to overclock your refresh rate to anything noticeable without sacrificing so many colours that everything looks garbage
Next time just get a 144hz monitor desu
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Am going to buy a new one. It has an intel I5 runs at 2.7Ghz and and graphic card Radeon R5 2g. Thoughts?
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AHHHHH
Help!
Please! My computer was just totalled. I need a new amd platform but I can't into rx 480 because am3+ with psie 3.0 yields zero results. Please help. I have a $700 budget. Send refugee packets I'm stranded.
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so this is a weird request.

I want to build a NAS, but I only want to build it 1 drive at a time, as I grow into it.

Software-wise i'll be running tahoe-lafs and every drive will be it's own "server" with the metal box holding the drives running the "gateway". (if you know anything about tahoe-lafs this will make sense)

that means i'll have natively-encrypted higher-than-raid-level-redundant network accessible filestorage.

however, that means this machine is gonna be pushing a shitload of data and also encrypting it on the fly, so i need something hefty enough to do so.
also i want something that allows me to add a large amount of sata drives as time progresses.

I'm so far out of the loop hardware-wise... I really could use some suggestions
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Full ATX or Micro ATX? I only plan on having 1 GPU, two sticks of RAM, and <6 Storage solutions.
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>>57548567
ATX is easier to work with, but bigger. MicroATX is built to fit into smaller cases.
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>>57548519
Important question. Are you black by any chance?
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>>57548579
no senpai, but i have a black friend.
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Is this build fine for casual gaming (MMORPGs), watching movies, light photo-editing and shitposting?

>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/7c2pr7

I'm trying not to spend more than $800, and ideally I'd prefer to spend no more than $700, but I couldn't manage to make it any cheaper while still getting a 1060, a windowed case, and an i5-6500. I really wish I could drop the Windows 7 from the list, but I don't trust torrents enough and I'm not ready to go full Linux yet.

Also, any recommendations for keyboards? I'm flip-flopping between these two with either red or brown switches, since I don't think I can handle blues while gaming.
>https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches-RK-9000V2/dp/B00S5E4LX0?th=1
>https://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-QuickFire-TK-Mechanical/dp/B00AOIRCI6?th=1
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>>57548512
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/zfJjJV

Note, if you can scrounge for old HDD/SSDs, you should be fine later on. High specs, low capacity.
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is it worth holding out for a 1080TI or just go for a vanilla 1080?
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How do you decide a name for your computer?
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>>57548507
The graphics card is fairly worthless except for old games. Country?

>>57548512
You're not making any sense

>>57548519
Sounds like you want an i7 or even an x99 or C6XX board

>>57548567
mATX

>>57548586
Lucky u

>>57548041
>the two are unrelated
Takin it too far anon. They're both related to the power used by hardware
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>>57548640
swap out the 1060 3GB for a 480 with similar size and equal pricing

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131706&cm_re=Red_Dragon_480_4gb-_-14-131-706-_-Product

Not in PCP yet, but it will be.
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>>57548578
Would you dissuade a first time-builder for going after the MicroATX?
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>>57548640
The build will do what you want it to do.
>>57548655
It depends how autistic about speed you are. 1080 will do anything at highest settings in 1440p. If I could afford it, I'd just get a 1080 now.
>>57548666
Naming inanimate objects is degenerate and pretty retarded, Satan.
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>>57548673
Oh that reminds me of the other question I meant to ask:
What are the differences between the 480 and the 1060 3GB?
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>>57548672
>Sounds like you want an i7 or even an x99 or C6XX board

i don't think tahoe requires that much at all
anything with the AES native instructions should be sufficient, he needs a bunch of sata.
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>>57548666
MemeMachine
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>>57548687
Definitely. Just go the ATX, easier to follow video tutorials from, better choice and more forgiving.
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>>57548672
>They're both related to the power used by hardware
No, not at all.
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>>57548695
I guess it depends on how much encryption / decryption work has to be done. Sounds like it might be the anon who's making a t0r server
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>>57548672
i need a 3.0 pcie for rx 480.
i cant afford to dump money into an apu but I can't find an am3+ socket to support it.
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>>57548715
Ok you're just trolling m8. If you really think Intel is going to release an i7 that draws 90W under load with a 25W TDP or vice versa, you're too stupid even for 4ch

Clearly they're related
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>>57548417
;-; It's a good thing I only paid $150
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>>57548737
No you don't. PCIe 2 is fine, but don't buy AM3+ except second retard
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>>57548650
I appreciate it. I can cannibalize the hdd.
Will i be set up for zen if I get the i5 6500?
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>>57548770
I don't understand. The specs specifically call for 3.0. I'm concerned about throttling.
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>>57548744
>Clearly they're related
But they're not. The chip could have a 0W TDP if they're ok with it being whatever temperature the die reaches when consuming 90W.
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>>57548786
Eh, well
You could go with an i3-6100, what i have and it runs games pretty well.

Planning to scrap it as the "Main PC-Everyone uses in the house" when Zen comes out, so I can have a Zen Gaming PC, as I'll have to rebuild a new setup with the AM4 motherboard.
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>>57547939
Contrary to what /g/ might tell you, a Noctua HSF isn't mandatory for air cooling on mid/high-end i-series and housefire FX CPU's, the Fuma is a budget D-series cooler that performs almost the same for half the price. You're paying for the fans on Noctua products more than anything

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9ZH3ZD3946

Scythe also used to be the meme brand around here a loooooooooooong time ago
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>>57548672
Will it run skyrim smoothly ?
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>>57548862
no
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I can get a GTX 690 for $100.
Should I jump on it? I'm coming from a GTX 460, playing at 1080p and my PSU can handle it.
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>>57548910
Ehh, considering a 1050/1050 ti is almost the same, that's really your call man.

I'd go with the 1050 ti though. Almost same performance, but better TDP etc.
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>6600 is $100 less than the 6700

That's a lot for just .5 more GHz
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>>57548934
And hyperthreading. I wouldn't bother buying non hyperthreaded CPUs in 2016.
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Opinions on the Corsair C70?
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>>57548934
>muh overclocking
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>>57548959
Yeah I know, you can get to 4.0 GHz easily with overclocking on a 6600, right?
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>>57548957
meme, stupid, sharp edges
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>>57548971
And you can get higher with a 6700
Plus what the other anon said, hyperthreading is pretty important for virtual machines and the like
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>>57548978
But the power button looks so nice and substantial...
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>>57548989
that case is ugly as sin desu
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What's the point of having a window on a case beyond aesthetic purposes?
If I'm on a budget but like the look of a windowed case is there any reason not to get one, even if it means spending more?
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>>57548999
It's there so that you can look at the components of your computer
If you like the aesthetic there's no reason to not buy it
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>>57548986
Oh, I thought all the high end 6000's had Hyperthreading. So only the 6700 does?
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>>57548999
>what's the point of having a window on a case beyond aesthetic purposes
Nothing.
>is there any reason not to get one
It makes picking parts harder.
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>>57548998
You may be right, man. I like it, at least it isn't pic related.
>>57548999
Nothing really, but why not get one?
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>>57549010
Are you talking about i5 or i7? i7 6000s have hyperthreading, only the 6700k i5 has hyperthreading, as far as i know.
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>>57549031
The one I was looking at was a 6600 i5, not an i7.
That would explain the prices.
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>>57549020
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Opinions on the s340 elite?
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What do you guys think of this? Im going to be playing at 1920x1080, but i am aiming to keep this for a few years.

Those custom prices are because of prices from microcenter during their black friday sale, and i'm aiming to get those parts during it and the rest later on when i get my next paycheck.
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>>57549067
Keep in mind meme pricing. Like with pretty much everything, the highest quality components have an exponentially smaller dollar-to-performance value. That's why the 1080 is a couple hundred more than the 1070, even though the performance difference isn't miles apart.
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>>57549095
Remember to get a dedicated hard drive to store your shit eventually
You can get a cheaper psu and cpu cooler to save money
Other than that looks pretty good desu
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>>57549097
Hyperthreading does make sense for such a price difference though, I guess.
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>>57549087
it's a better S340

it's the best $150 case on the market right now
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>>57549097
Difference between 1060 and 1070?
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>>57549201
That'd be Air 540
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>>57549205
1060 can do 1080p 60fps on most AAA shit, 1070 can handle 1440p 60fps or 1080p 140fps, 1080 can do 1440p 140fps or like 80fps on 4k.
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>>57549215
It's the second best $150 case. I'd only get it if you need more storage or 5.25" bays.
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>>57549233
TheGTX 1080 is only 20% stronger than the 1070, so how is the 1070 going to do 1440p 60FPS and the 1080 is going to more than double that at 140FPS?

A: It's not you dumb nigger
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>>57543965
>Can't play locked 60FPS? Yes.

On Ultra right? Pretty sure it can handle anything on medium or low, or am I wrong?
>>
Does rx 480 work on pcie 2.0?
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>>57549443
Dude.

Google/bing whatever the fuck you use, and copy and paste everything after the word "Does" in your post.

First fucking link.

Jesus.
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>>57549443
does my dick fit in your mom?

spoilerYESspoiler
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How long do Newegg RMAs take?

I was really looking forward to building my PC on Friday when my parts got here, but the case I bought on Newegg came bent to all fuck and back... So bad the side panel can't even attach to it.
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>>57549642
Newegg RMAs suck.
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>>57549673
Thought they were the best.
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Just moved out, literally work at McDonald's. Only have an A6-6410 laptop and a PS3. Is this a decent media streaming, web and gaming rig to run 1080/720 for <$400? never built a pc.
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>>57550550
Im also retarded
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/c3Nfhq
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>>57550563
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/RPvHRG
Honestly, if you're stuck on a 400 buck budget, either roll with this and upgrade more stuff later on. Also, its sub 400 AFTER mail in rebates, which can take a while.

And don't worry about the 460, it's not THAT bad.

Also, i3-6100 because some games don't run on a dual core processor.

i3 IS dual core, but has hyper threading which gives it 2 more logical/digital cores instead of physical, G4400 doesn't.
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>>57550596
wait, shit, lemme fix that

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/PpD66X

better.
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Hey guys, just built my first pc (using my old PCs SSD and HDD), and i cant get it to boot. The BOOT_DEVICE led is on with or without the drives connected. I also cannot get any signal on my monitor via (several) HDMI. What am I doing wrong? I feel so defeated
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>>57551143
Sounds like bad MOBO displacement, make sure it's correctly on the standoffs and not touching any metal or wires.
May want to take it out and put it back in for posterity. Then go ahead and unplug all your extra shit, then take the battery out of the mobo itself to make sure the BIOS isn't trying to auto boot to something different.
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>>57550596
Thanks, i didn't know about core limitations. After doing more research I'm just going to suffer until the new stuff comes out and try to get outgoing models cheaper. Maybe I can save enough for a quad core 470 build
>>
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/vhhRzM
Budget of $2,250, mainly used for gaming at 2k 144hz on games like Arma III, Dark Souls III, and Star Citizen. My questions are: Are there any improvements I can make to performance? Any meme parts to drop? How long will this last me (besides storage).
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i've been using a shitty 17" 1440x900 monitor for around 10 years now and it's time for me to finally go for an upgrade.
it will be a general purpose monitor, i don't play any competitive shootan games, mostly RPGs and offline stuff. i spend a lot of time just reading stuff online or watching movies on it. i also use photoshop (not professionally though). i often stay up late and have indirect lighting on the ceiling above my desk, if that matters.
now the question is what's the better choice for me:
>1080p 144hz TN panel
>1440p 60hz IPS panel
my budget is around 250-300 eurobux.

sadly i have no chance to go out and check different monitors myself, because my local stores only have TVs on display. i pretty much have to ask for other people's opinions and experiences.
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>>57552652
1440p 60hz since you don't play twitch shooters. Also, most high end TN panels are the same as IPS panels.
>>
I have to get a new pc because my mobo died, but I want to wait a bit to buy a GPU, maybe black friday.

Should I throw my old HD6950 in there, or just use the skylake (i5 6500) video? it'll only be a week or two, I can wait that long to not play video games but I don't even know what the performance difference will be like or other problems.
>>
>>57553517
Yes, just use your iGP

>>57552652
I would wait until you can afford a high refresh rate monitor with adaptive sync. The smoothness is really nice, and if you wait just a bit more you can get a display with HDR

>>57552409
>2k
Never say that again. There's no such resolution as 2K. If there were, out would be 1920 (2K) x 1080p. You mean (I assume) 1440p which can also be called QHD, because it's 4 x 720p (aka HD).

Otherwise it's a good build. You might want a highest wattage PSU if you ever plan to multi GPU
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>>57554444
There is, but it isn't used in this context and is widely misused just like "HD" and "4K"
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>>57544927
>gtx XX70
>lasting
lol
only the xx80 or xx80ti will last
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>>57554779
Why wouldn't a 1070 be good on 1080P for a few years?
>>
Suggest me a clean looking z170 ATX motherboard (no major colours besides black, grey, silver)
>>
1440p 144hz monitor or a 1080p 144hz monitor and a bunch of upgrades to my pc, I have a 1070
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>>57554812
It will be excellent @1080p for about three years, maybe only good for the last year of that period

>>57554779
>thinking the X80 is much better than X70

>>57551957
Basically you want the cheapest Vega (if you're going AMD) with reasonable performance when it comes out. Will be a hell of card for the money

>>57551143
>I feel so defeated
Don't worry, gayman is for boys. You'll feel right at home.

Could be a DOA board, confirm standoffs as the other anon said, and make sure you have the correct polarity on the power leads and other pin connections

Also make sure you plugged in the CPU power and heatsync fan.
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>>57555088
>heatsync
Clearly I meant heatsink

Captcha:
>pole my ass
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>>57551143
Did you make sure to disconnect all the drives and boot into the BIOS? You need to set the boot order of the board before it can load into the OS.
And while you're at the BIOS, you'll also need to set the primary display output to the motherboard's output if that wasn't standard.

Worst comes to worst, remove the battery on the motherboard and replace it.
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Has anyone used amazon locker in the UK to receive parts? Do they get treated well enough inside those things to use? I'm considering shipping this way for the motherboard and RAM.
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Micro Lan Rig. How'd I do?

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=28739832
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>>57554812
X70 cards are always gimped from the start.
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>>57555582
Cool but don't buy meme RAM and step that processor up to something better. i5-6600k, at least.
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>>57555666

i5-6600k is above the TDP for the noctua. What do you mean by meme ram?
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>>57542640
repost;
Any point in upgrading i5-2310, besides power savings?
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Is there any reason not to snatch up this monitor at my local best buy right now? They only have 3 left in stock, it's on sale for a pretty good price and it fits all my criteria.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/aoc-27-widescreen-flat-panel-ips-led-hd-monitor-piano-black-silver/6293177.p?skuId=6293177&ref=212&loc=DWA&ksid=5e90ab10-1465-40da-8712-f6e9e20ad57c&ksprof_id=3&ksaffcode=pg213668&ksdevice=m&lsft=ref:212,loc:2&gclid=Cj0KEQiAx7XBBRCdyNOw6PLHrYABEiQAJtyEQ-IXW5y2jitQbCl6WzmfoD_q9Ovgf3IJW4xhKl6G3NYaAmDw8P8HAQ
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>>57555700
>i5-6600k is above the TDP for the noctua
LOL nigga waht? It's not.
>>
Hello, I'm a tech noob that wants to build a moderate gaming pc for like 800€, and it would be buying separate components. I was hoping to get some components much cheaper for black friday. Any help?
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>>57555700
>i5-6600k is above the TDP for the noctua.
I highly doubt that. It's not above the TDP for the Intel cooler.
>What do you mean by meme ram?
G.Skill brand name type garbage. Just buy the cheapest shit you can buy with name brand chips like Hynix, Samsung, Elpida, or Micron.
>>
>>57555771
>i5-6600k
6600k is 91 W per Intel. NH L9i is rated for max 65W CPU per Noctua.
>>
>>57555831
http://noctua.at/en/nh_l9i_tdp_guidelines
No.
>>
>have HD7850
>want to upgrade to RX480
>but also want CUDA so better get an nvidia card
>mfw they're all fucking expensive
Is the GTX1060 an alright card? 1070 is already quite expensive.
>>
>>57555831
http://noctua.at/en/nh_l9i_tdp_guidelines
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>>57555868
65w like I said. 95 w "Recommended with good case ventilation only." Do you consider that case to have good ventilation?
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>>57544832
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-6100-vs-AMD-FX-8320E/3511vs2985

>2 cores/4 threads vs 8 cores/8 threads
>2 cores is faster

am3 is outdated. either wait for zen if you really dont want to give intel money or just buy a skylake now
>>
>>57555888
Even the smallest cases can have good ventilation with proper fans and cablemanagement, so yes.
>>
Is e5450 (with mod of course) the best thing around that price for second hand? And if so what motherboard(second hand again) should I buy for it?
>>
>>57556225
X5460 is better with the p5q mobo.
>>
>>57544832
>MUH GHZ
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>>57556271
What is the difference and is there any decent ddr3 mobo?
>>
Any tips for drilling whole in the aluminum of my case? single sheet need to secure a water pump. 4 m4 screws. Was thinking of making divits with a screw driver first to pin the drill in place.
>>
>>57556370
Just use thermite, it'll go right through that.
>>
>>57548687
If you want mATX get mATX, it's toddler-level easy either way
>>
>>57548934
You're the person who'll say K processors aren't worth the .2GHz aren't you
>>
>>57549031
What the fug
Go google some shit before posting again
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>>57556627
Follow the reply chain, I eventually figured out where I was being dumb.
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>he fell for the poowercolor meme
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>>57549233
1070 can often do 1440p/144Hz
1080 CANNOT do 4K past 60fps, 1080 also can't always do 1440p/144hz, it can hold that up more than a 1070 but it still struggles with higher set games
>>
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/8rvZxr/asus-z170-pro-gamingaura-atx-lga1151-motherboard-z170-pro-gamingaura

or

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/gpH48d/msi-motherboard-z170agamingprocarbon

or

??
>>
>>57556670
Can you elaborate or link the video? Not everyone is autistic enough to decrypt that picture.
>>
>>57556798
Get the non-aura version of the Asus or get the Gigabyte Z170X-UD3.
>>
>>57556902
the non aura has the ugly red shit...

gigabyte has ugly yellow accent...
>>
Upgrading from a q9300, a shit Acer board and 6gb ddr3 to a i5 6600, a MSI B150 mono and 8gb ddr4; also new 250gb ssd in a new zalman case
I start receiving parts today, I can't wait

I planned to go with Win7, but apparently it doesn't install from USB on this board, so even before getting started I'm in a clusterfuck of drivers and installers, great
>>
>>57556932
>muh aesthetics over functionality, quality and price
You are on the wrong board, faggot.
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/fa/
>>
>>57555888
It's probably fine. Maybe ask Noctua.
>>
>>57556990
suck my massive dick you delusional autistic turbosperg

The boards I posted have the same if not higher functionality than the ones you suggested.

CLEAN AESTHETIC > UGLY FUCKING COLOURS
>>
>>57557079
Looks like we helped you make your choice.
Now go drop 250 shekels on a motherboard
>>
>>57557079
HAHAHAHA... look who's got triggered. Calm down, Britney. Just take your flamboyant behaviour back to your faggot containment board.
>the ((((((LED GAYMUR PRO ANIHILATOR)))))) mobos are better because they glow in the dark
>aesthetics are more important than everything else
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/fa/
>>
>>57543021
I ran a 6600k @4.5 and a good gaming 1070 on the 500w PSU that came with my EVGA hadron. Never had a stutter and I downgraded to a 980 which uses even more power still with no issue.
>>
>>57556853
The fucking video name is in the top left corner, jesus.
>>
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I want to build a machine learning rig on a budget of $2000, but should I even do it? That's barely enough for a single Titan X plus necessities considering the future landscape of the high-end market.

Thoughts?
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>>57557323
>6600k
>evga 1070
>500w psu
>>
>>57557214
recommend me a black motherboard with the same amount of USB ports and optical audio for $150 american

who gives a flying fuck about gayman LEDs.

You're actually so fucking delusional its hilarious. I don't get your hostile behavior either. Are you trying to compensate for something by acting like this on an anonymous image board?
>>
>>57544568
>>57557671
$2000 is a little weird. You're either unnecessarily blinging out a 1440p system or skimping on a 4k rig.
>>
>>57557604
I am too lazy to search it or build the wall myself, Paco, so please do your job.
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>>57557840
>>57557214
>>57557079
>>57556990
>>57556932

>mfw two autistic sperg argue when they have the same opinion
>>
A good z170 board?
Kinda looking at the micro atxs atm
>>
>>57558013
depends on the CPU, case and ram and cooler
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>>57557840
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/NqRFf7/asrock-z170-extreme4-atx-lga1151-motherboard-z170-extreme4
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/xdmxFT/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz170xud3
>who gives a flying fuck about gayman LEDs.
Appearently you.
>trying to compensate for something by acting like this on an anonymous image board
>anonymously compensating
Sure thing, Britney.
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http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/h4XDJV

Anyone got some suggestions?
>>
>>57558160
Why did you buy a 200 dollar mobo?

Coulda got one for half and it would've been fine.

also, your trip is on.
>>
>>57558080
Lets say a skylake and the best ddr4 I can buy.
>>
>>57558085
>asrock
not bad actually but I don't know how good asrock is

>gigabyte
apparently not great with a 212 evo and ram with heatsinks so can't do that

All I care are about it being black, the ones you suggested again have goldish accents. The ones I was looking at sure have gayman leds but those can be turned off, all I want is clean black.
>>
>>57558370
>all I want is clean black
Look at the MSI Z170 SLI Plus then.
>>
>>57558370
This >>57558524 but that thing is bottom tier at everything.
>>
I'm looking for a cheap but good 4K monitor of reasonable size (looking to get three, so nothing *too* huge, but not too small - maybe 24"-30").

Specifically looking for opinions on this, as it's about the cheapest one I could find:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0163JLIWU
>>
Recommended brand for the rx480 4gb? I'm leaning towards the msi because apparently it has the best cooling.
>>
>>57558610
Sapphire or MSI.
>>
>>57558610
I had heard that MSI's coolers are just reused GTX coolers and not the best for it. That may have changed though.

Sapphire I hear is good though
>>
>>57558326
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/pbcQGf

I mean there's no point in going 4000MHz rambut you asked for the best so there you go. Along with the only Micro ATX I could find that supports it.

Better to go 3000Mhz and save money on the board. If you want a decent z170 mAtx I suggest the Gigabyte GA-Z170MX Gaming 5 that can take memory up to 3466 Mhz but costs 70 less than the Asrock one I put in the list.
>>
>>57558738
That's actually the board I've been looking at, funny enough.
I could probably use the money buying that into a 6700
>>
>>57558898
The Gigabyte, I mean. Not the Asrock.
>>
>>57558915
yeah I think its the better option as well. Good reviews too

new bread:

>>57558949
>>57558949
>>57558949
>>
>>57558160
>$109 psu
>Middling reviews
>Twice the wattage that your system will use
>$200 mobo
>Mini gpu in a full tower
I mean you'll get good performance at 1080p, but damn you wasted a lot of money.
>>
>>57558160
Just don't. This build is just sad...
>>
>>57558610
Sapphire Nitro+ OC or XFX GTR.
>>
FUCK YUROPOOR

When I can get good prices like murrican websites?
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I've posted here before but changed a lot of stuff.

Does anything look dumb here?

Usage will be some Matlab, GIS, CAD and a bit of gayming.

The moba choice is because there's a deal at my vendor atm, not muh gaymer lights.

The m2 ssd was also on a deal, this board can boot from that right?
>>
newegg has a 1000w gold PSU for sale for 99$. I was planning on getting an 850w platinum, but that's a full 40$ more.

Should I go for the 1000w, or wait for black friday/cyber monday and see if the 850w plat goes on sale?
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>>57559894
>muh gaymen LED mobo
>intel 600p
This only makes sense if the deal really is good.
>750W
Way too much, drop down to EVGA G2 550W. You will never use 750W, especially not since the 1060 has the >no SLI feature.
>Matlab, GIS, CAD
I imagine an i7 would be better. If the 1060 is for gaming only, leave it out for now, get an i7 and buy a GPU later on.
Prices should drop with the release of the 1080ti and RX490, maybe you'll even buy on of those cards, who knows..
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