/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

First for T601f master race.

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>>57244177
First for the legendary W700ds

First for objectively best and comfiest X230

>Order cheap T420, 4GB ram, 320GB HDD and no OS from ebay.

>Still has Windows 7 Pro sticker behind the battery and the product code works
>Actually has 6GB RAM
>The HDD is 7400 RPM

Contemplating buying another one but I don't know if the RAM was a one off mistake on their part.

interesting stuff:
https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad

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First for still no tablet

Is $360 ($360 + $70 actually) ok for a relatively new-looking X230 with mediocre specs (i5, hdd, 4 GB ram)?

Also, any word on Fujitsu Lifebooks?

I recently had to replace my laptop for uni (old HP brick was about to melt) and went for a used X220 for €170 on Amazon.

I have never been happier to have been meme'd in my life. This shit is seriously one of the best purchases I've ever made.

>>57245510
That 's quite expensive. You should be able to find some for $100 less without too much hassle. Also an X220 is inferior in the integrated GPU, but the keyboard is leagues better and it costs less.

>>57245547
Sorry, I meant X230T, not just X230

I'm checking local offers mostly and not ebay because I live outside US and refund won't be an option

Guess it's time to give up on my tablet dreams

>>57245547
Glad you like it, Yuropanon.

My T410 is one of three purchases in my life which I have not regretted to some degree, the other two being my Toyota Camry and a Seiko Alpinist. Generally I am at least somewhat unsatisfied with the things I buy (including my university degree), so if I get something I'm completely happy with, it must be damn good.

I hope the Retro Thinkpad that I buy to replace my T410 also falls into the "no regrets" category. But somehow I feel Lenovo will fuck something up, if they produce it at all.

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>>57244177
>>57244399
Frankenpad master race reporting in.

Anyone have any questions?

What's the first thing I should do after getting my x220?

>>57249382
shoot yourself in the head

>>57249476
I'm sorry but I don't have access to a gun.

What's the normal battery life of the x220 and T420 ?

>>57249065

where the hell do i get a non-shitty battery for it

>>57249065
is it a t60?

>>57244890
x220 best

next line when

how many HHDs or SSDs can you fit in a x220?

>>57250557
2.

>>57250654
Including the mSATA?
That's, very little..

How many charge cycles will it take to kill a new oem x220 9 cell battery?

>>57250708
One 2.5" and one msata.
It is a 12.5" laptop after all.

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I'd have a Thinkpad if I didn't already have a pretty gewd cpu

>>57250801
am new to /g/ is this bait

>>57250723
Just buy two batteries and idk like 2 years of charging and then taking the laptop off the charger and discharging every day

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>>57250801
>Intel i3
>Acer
>>>/out/

>>57250708
Maybe u can take off the CD drive for a 3rd sata plug

>>57250999
Pussy. This CPU is fine u got small dick syndrome lmao and fuck ur brand loyalty

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>>57250801
Only thing its better at is power consumption and iGPU.

>>57251021
And it feels good being able to browse shit for like 6 hours

>>57251033
I can do the same on my T420 with my 9 cell.

>>57251039
I can't run GTA v very well but anything under it works at 720p. I'm pleased in buying a 350 dollar laptop new instead of a used Thinkpad

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>>57249886
agreed

>>57249623
Buy a used one off of eBay or thinkpad forums, off the forums you can get a 9 cell Panasonic battery for not that expensive.

>>57249755
T60 modified base laptop with t61 board, with a T9300 as my cpu. Also a sharp 1600x1200 panel.

>>57251142
Y'all got resolutions like 2k but can't even play a 480p video without lagging the fuck out

>>57251176
The t9300 can decode 1080p video just fine.
I don't understand what your getting at.

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>thinkcuck users

pic related

>>57251071
>>57249886
X230 with X220 keyboard best

Anyone have/had T550 ? How good is it? Any known problems ? Will sell my T540p and add some extra for a T550, since I hate the clickpad and changing that and adding SSD would cost the same as the extra from 540 to 550

>>57250980

Gonna neee that in english.

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How'd I do /g? Will be my first thinkpad.

>>57252247
Damn I'm jealous.
That machine would have costed ~300€ where I live.

>>57250723
~400 from what I've read

>>57252247

Buy an IPS screen, buy more RAM, and get an SSD.

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Lads,

Is it possible to install M.2 SATA on T420 or does it have to be mSATA?

any of you beta males switched the X230 keyboard for the X220's?

>>57252452
The mSATA slot is only SATA2, so I wouldn't bother with that if I were you.

And no, no M.2.

>>57252452
No, It only has support for mSATA.
M.2 Isn't that noticeably different anyway.
(for me at least)

>>57252483
>>57252497
Thanks, senpaitachi.

What do you think about this t60?
https://www.kupujemprodajem.com/IBM-Thinkpad-T60-adapter-2h-baterija-GAR-30330764-oglas.htm
Does it look nice enough for €120?

>>57252654
No.

For that much money at this stage in time I'd want the 15" 1600x1200 display at the very least.

My charger is starting to get loose on my X220? Anyone have any experience with this?

>>57252654
not worth
you could get a nice t410, or a busted up t420
>>57252687
quit being so rough with it and replace the charging port
>>57252452
msata/m.2 is the physical connection
it only has msata so you have to use a sata msata drive.

>>57252717
i'm not that rough with it, it should be a magnetic connector like some macs have imo

>>57245510
the keyboard on the 2x30 is still one of the best keyboards. Not as good as previous ones though. The big thing is that the hd4000 graphics on the x230 is worth it. There's definitely a difference.

I came across this today and was wondering if I should fall for the thinkpad meme:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2PF3W14009&ignorebbr=1

>>57252869
try to look around a bit on ebay for something cheaper or better.
That looks like the base model t430 with the 1366x768 screen that is an hero worthy

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i post of t60 just purchansed

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got usb3 on muh t420. just werks in linux.

>>57253451
>>57253482
>>57253483
>>57253496

What the hell is wrong with you

>>57253512
long day

>>57253512
what is mine problem friend

T420 or T430? Do the better specs outweigh the worse keyboard?

>>57253805
no

>>57253805
>>57253830
whats wrong with the t420 keyboard? is it fixable?

>>57253851
>whats wrong with the t430 keyboard?
ftfy and no, it's not

>>57253851
the T420 has a smaller keyboard in order to fit an ounce of weed in the laptop

Do X and T series Thinkpads use the same keyboards?
Asking because I'm thinking about getting a T430 and then transplanting my X220's keyboard.

>>57253954
The X220 keys are very slightly closer together than the T420's, but it doesn't make any difference to compatibility.

>>57253984
So it won't fit in 100%?

>>57254009
No, it'll fit fine. The keys themselves just have a little less space between them.

>>57254027
That's good to hear, I actually like the feel of the X220 keyboard with the keys being this close.
Thanks for the help Anon

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>>57253805
T430 if you want light gaymen with the better iGPU, T420 if you don't.

Specs difference is only a newer CPU and better GPU.

>>57253851
>whats wrong with the t430 keyboard?
ftfy and pic related, top is T430 and bottom is T420, the T430 layout is dicks.

>is it fixable?
Yes if you buy a new t420 keyboard to mod a t430 and then flash the firmware.

Why not but anything other than those series? I've had a x220 for the last 18 months, it always overheated for no reason, the display was meh, and today I couldn't turn it on because the fan was not working (got the infamous message)

Why is something like Thinkpad 13 bad?

>>57254374
Please just don't let it not turn out to be some circlejerk about the "classic" aesthetics; yes I love the full one piece keyboard and yes I love its sturdy look compared to the gay slim looking ultrabooks but come on

How much more weight does a 9-volt pack onto a thinkpad?

I'm thinking about getting an x220 for portability but if the 9 volt is heavy or too weirdly shaped I might just stick with a 6 volt

>>57254438
It's a fair bit heavier, but the shape of it makes for a really comfy grip compared to the 6-cell. Well worth it for the increased battery life.

>>57254438
I'm the poster above you. It's A LOT heavier than a 6 cell, but like the guy below you said, it makes up by the fact that you can grab it easily (it sounds stupid but after a while you realize it's pretty nice)

I'm about to get a T43, am I in for a fun time?

Does anyone think that /g/ is mostly comprised of manlets due to the sheer amount of people using the X220?

Is the T60p a bad choice? I don't care for a great gpu, I just want something to replace my dell inspiron 1525

is the x230 a decent upgrade over a x220? Is it worth going specifically after one?

>>57254977

Do you need to be a manlet to use a smaller laptop? Personally I've never heard any complaints of the keyboard being too small for anyone, regardless of height. However, my sample size might be fairly low compared to others.

>>57255145
X230 is not worth the upgrade if you currently have an X220, if you had X201 maybe if you had money to blow

if it's your first thinkpad and you're not short on cash, go for x230!

$235 for a t420 with 16gb of ram, should I?

>>57255224
Not poster, but what about the x240? I have money to fucking blow

>>57255243
only if you want to get cucked

>>57255287
x61?

>>57255243
The **40* series is the Gothic 3 of Thinkpads.
If you have money to blow get an X230 and a hooker, or an X250.

>>57255311
thanks mang

>>57255224
it'll be my first. Saw an x220 with ssd and new battery for 220€ and an x230 for 250€ but with a spinny, no info on the battery, and only 4gb.
Also not totally sold on the 12.5"

>>57255338
of course might be different for you but I MUCH prefer the 12.5" to the standard 15".

Better in terms of portability and use, laptop feels a lot more personal and like it's really yours

>>57255372
yeah, i'm looking to get away from my standard 15.6", but i'm also considering going with a t420/30 depending on prices.

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Why did Thinkpad discontinue the X-Tablet line?

>>57252456
Maybe in a few weeks when I get the money from selling my T420. Currently replacing the lcd of a Toshitba Qosmio for resale.

>>57255624
Limited use cases? Especially taking in account how widespread Android tablets now are, and Android has much better touch support than Windows/Linux

>>57255624
They replaced them with the consumer line
which sucks, I know. But I would guess it was silly to continue the two types of hinges alongside each other.

I've been looking at the T420 FHD upgrade but no matter what I look into I can't find the conversion board you need, the guy who originally sold them doesn't anymore.
Am I missing something here or what?

I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH MONEY I HAVE TO SPEND
What the fuck is the best gaming thinkpad

>>57256535
None of them
GIVE ME YOUR MONEY

>>57256535
none of them have thunderbolt yet so no new eGPU setups until the next set comes out soonish
You could get a P50 if you use your laptops like a desktop
or you could get whatever model it is that is the last to have the expresscard slot T420 does, buy a GPU and a connector and a PSU, and go like that.

/g/ what do you say about refurbished x220 tablet with i7 for 160€

>>57256628
damn fine

>>57256628
seems like a good price

any T420 linux users using xfce? how do you get more battery life? I installed XFCE bc that's what I always use but I've never had the need to install anything else for power management but with this laptop I just get a brutal battery drain. What do you do to stop this

>>57256264
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=122224

he's going to be selling them again

>>57255229
what battery and what hdd / ssd

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>>57254164
>chiclet keys
Kill it with flames. Fucking WHY is this cancer metastizing into Thinkpads? Is nothing sacred anymore?
FUCK YOU, APPLE

>>57256946
>ing
it's been four years anon

>>57256946
t430's keyboard is just fine

>>57256946
What's your problem with them?

>>57257073
>run your hand across a beveled keyboard
Very little friction and you don't feel like you're going to pop a couple of keys off
>run your hand across a chiclet keyboard
High friction, and you feel like your hand is catching against keys. Key footprint is also inevitably smaller, and you can feel the tips of your fingers touching the frame between the keys as you type. Literally hipster garbage that is "in" right now thanks to fucking MacBooks.

I also think beveled keyboards just look better but I admit that's my opinion.

I'm looking for a new compatible (original ones are way too expensive) battery for my X200. What are some reputable sellers on ebay in Europe?

just picked up a x220 for $190 on r/thinkpadswap. gorgeous little machine, and super light. taking all recommendations for distros, currently running mint.

>>57257369
Antergos

>>57257383
my roommate reccomended this or elementaryOS. any reason for one over the other? i'm mostly concerned about battery life.

>>57257410
then just plain arch and xfce
there are installation tools abound

Is there something with dimensions like the x220 but isn't 3.5cm thick? Like around 2cm would be better

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Bought an immaculate T430 today from some chink ex lease wholesalers that im good mates with.
Quite possibly the nicest condition thinkpad I've ever seen or held.
Its hotter than the x230 but runs cooler than both my x220 and t420 did.
Ill post more pics soon

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>>57257943
Cant give specifics on price but was under 300 usd or 400nzd
Mr friendo said there were 2 4gb dimms on this laptop so i was very surprised to find one stick of 4gb and an m pcie port staring me in the face.
I think this is a change for the better in the series, 4gb minimum should be on board, and access to a potential msata ssd input should be easy to make. Cmos battery os also easier to access than x200/x201/220 etc
Wondering if docks for this laptop are easy to find

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>>57257981
Price seems good but its not the i7 version, and just after buying this i saw an offer on trademe for an i7 t430 for 330 nzd but im happy with this.
Another thing that interests me about the t430 is how they've lumped in the usb3's and mini DP with the 2.5" hdd space, the cover for this is definitely a lot sturdier than any of the x series' port covers and the cover for the t400. Additionally having them not lump another card reader on the underside of the usbs means that if one of them.breaks its significantly easier to replace/remove that usb.
I put the 250gb 850 evo from my x220 in here, it has my os on it

>>57257827
the newer models are thinner

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>>57258023
Battery is in amazing condition, im saddened to find that there are no 6cell batteries available for this model, the 7 hours of battery life i got on my x230 with a 6 cell was amazing.
There is a tiny surface scratch on the vinyl covering on the top case but its entirely negligible. The laptop is still beyond A grade

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>>57258039
I wish they would bring back the excessive amount of status lights they used to have under the screen.
The excessive green flashing of the x201 was gorgeous, it had capslock light, numlock light, gps, wifi, cpu use, hdd use, sleep lights etc.
Still love how proudly they display their model number

>>57255311
>>57255321
Can confirm the x250 is God tier.

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>>57258064
Kinda sad that they did away with the expresscard port with this model but im pretty sure the port above the sd card is a replacement and/or improvement upon the express card, i think ive seen similar in older xps and alienware laptops
>>57258086
One day the x250s will come off lease and ill be able to get them for under 900 usd, ill be happy at that point

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>>57258094
Shot of the usb3/mini dp/hdd port without the cover, kinda sexy avtually how bare the usbs are

>>57255624
Replaced by Thinkpad Yoga. Which is probably a much sturdier hinge, desu.

>>57258028
I was looking at the T440s but reviews were saying the build quality is absolute shit. Whats a better alternative?

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>>57258112
Bought several lenovo mini chargers off the chinks while i was there for about 20 usd each, ill post another photo of the front and then my dump is finished.

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>>57256946
They keys are fine anon. They even curve in unlike every other chiclet keyboard. So it's really the same typing surface. I find it actually types much better.

It's the layout changes that suck.

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>>57258133
Alright thats it for me, if anybody has questions on the t430, fire away

>>57258094
That is an expresscard anon.

>>57256780
>http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=122224
>non-s kit coming soon

Oh shit senpai sign me the fuck up

Should I sell my gaming pic I built the February before last and buy a thinkpad? I find myself playing less games and the time I do spend on them feels like a distraction and waste of time. My only worry is the loss of money and missing having it. Plus I don't feel like there is any real justification to selling the machine when it's a perfectly alright computer with a lot of life left in it. I'd just like to downsize.

Help me make my decisions for me, /g/

>>57253913
>no, it's not
Wrong

https://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ec

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>>57258159
Oh bugger me it is too, probably wont use it since it already comes with 2 x usb 3, 1 x usb2 and 1 x usb 2 always on
>>57258211
Id say these days a thinkpad and a ps4 will get you along smoothly. Depends if you do cad or post work that requires a desktop.
I cant say much, i have 3 thinkpads, a gaming computer, a ps3 and a ps4

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>>57253984
>>57254027
I don't think that's true.

If you look at the stickers on the keyboards it's the same part numbers for T420 and X220.

>>57254438
It's pretty noticeable difference but the end result is still light as shit. You won't regret it unless you have cerebral palsy or something that makes your muscles not work right.

I have a maxed out T420.

Would getting a T430 be worth it at all? Aside from the better iGPU and usb 3.0 which i don't need i can't see anything else that would be worth it.

Does anyone know the part number for a stylus compatible with a x230t? I've been able to find the part numbers that'd fit other models, just not this one...

>>57258249
Are you actually lagging at anything you're doing?

If not, no reason to upgrade.

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>>57256535
>>57256583
my P50's nvidia GPU tears the screen literally at all times, especially when vsync is enabled. Would not recommend.

pic related is how it looks like with vsync

>>57258265
FYI this only happens on the 4K panel

Unfortunately the 4K panel is also the only one you can disable auto brightness 'feature' on

is there something bad about thinkpad tablets? there are so many x61 tablets for sale compared to the normal version, plus they're going for cheaper.
what gives?

>>57258257
No, smooth as butter with ssd, quad core cpu and maxed ram.

Looks like there's no reason to upgrade then.

>>57258288
Quad core? I thought t420s had i5 2520m's

>>57258128
X260

>>57258342
T420s has a soldered cpu, the T420 cpu is replaceable.

And yeah they come with dual cores up to the i7 2640m but an aftermarket quad core cpu can be installed.

Of course it generates more heat but it's still tolerable and an upgrade if you only have iGPU, if you have the Nvidia dGPU it would be a housefire since it shares the heatsink with the CPU from what i understand.

When I buy an x220 in person, what should I check for? What are the red flags?
How do I check that the fans work and how do I check if the bios is locked?

In what version of BIOS was the fn/ctrl swap added?
h-how do i update to that

>>57258429
install gentoo

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>>57258281
I definitely have a FHD panel.

>an aftermarket quad core cpu can be installed.
Are they cheap? I doubt theyd be cheap. Are they even worth that money
>>57258427
Screws missing, cracks on the right hand side of the case between the hdd cover and the top of the side, its a weak bit of plastic. Also the lid has a strip of plastic that is known to crack and break off, if youre able to wiggle this and make a divide between the strip and the rest of the lid its a bad sign, worse still if it comes off.
Get to recognise what the stickers on a genuine 4 and 6 cell lenovo battery look like compared to their chink oem counterparts. The chink oems are really shit and worth less than half the originals.
Apart from that boot up open dxdiag check the hdd ram and cpu are what the seller said they were.
Also check for cracks in the bottom cases air vents

>>57258492
Try triple buffering

>>57258494
>Are they cheap? I doubt theyd be cheap.
No but it's fine if you find a deal, or a broken laptop which still has the CPU and it's removable.
>Are they even worth that money
Compare benchmarks and price, look for the 2630qm, 2670qm or 2720qm to get an idea.

>>57258494
around $65 on ebay for a quad core cpu if you want it asap
can be found for $50-ish if you're patient/lucky

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Hey I'm looking to buy a T420 soonish and I would like to do the FHD screen mod, but can't find any kits on ebay. Anyone know where to get one or a diy kit.

Any easier to read articles on the fhd mod for x220?
All I can find to this day is moon runes and engrish articles on the subject, none of them ever disclose any information on making your own neither.

I kind of need a terminal station since I'll be abroad for a couple of months.
Essentially just means something portable with a decent keyboard, acceptable battery life and around 13" so it's neither too large nor do you get eye strain from looking at tiny symbols too long.
Power doesn't need to be that spectacular since I'm just going to run everything that needs actual processing power on the cluster.

Would you recommend the X220 for that? Found one for $220 that is supposedly in almost new condition (and I have the option to send it back if that turns out to be false).

>>57259612
Oh, I suppose I should also give some of the specs

i5 2520M
4 GB
320 HDD
sadly not the IPS though that is not really necessary anyway

My T420 (i5, intel gpu) stutters a bit when playing youtube videos, is there anything I can do to improve this?

Is the 2nd generation i7 really bad in terms of battery life and processing compared to 4th gen onwards?

Are motherboards on X230 and X230T interchangeable?

I see what looks like a refurb X230T, it's fairly expensive but -looks- like it's in mint condition. If motherboard fails on me in a month, how fucked I am?

>>57260032
I think so.
My x220 and my friends x220t looked really similar on the inside.
Just make sure you save the condom that goes on the end of the heatsink (not sure why they didn't just add more heatsink in the first place)
>>57259648
turn off battery savings?
if on linux don't use linux
>>57259943
I've found that lower clocked i7 quadcores tend to get pretty good battery life.
It isn't until they go to full speed that the battery chokes.
Then again pretty much any thinkpad gets shitty battery life with the cpu going full (non turbo) speed.
>>57259640
should be good enough
I'd try to find a tabet version though, and get an external keyboard.
Sometimes in really cramped spaces folding the screen down and having the keyboard somewhere else is a lot better than having the screen at a terrible angle.

I dont use my trackpoint, but ive tried it a few times as of late and i found it quite difficult

does anyone use it religiously?

>>57260032
X230 has a miniDP
X230T (and regular X220 and X220T) has regular DP

On the other hand, the X220T -> X230T is mostly the same. Not my fault if it hates you though

>>57260829
>not turning off the trackpad altogether

>>57260829
Yes, absolutely, the trackpoint is far more precise than any track pad that is typical of a laptop once you get good at using it.
I bought a thinkpad JUST so i could have a fuckin track point.

>>57260829
Yes.

The trackpad has been disabled since day 1.

>>57260842
>>57261054
>>57261220
do you ever use a mouse

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>>57261260
not a regular one

>>57261260
Yes, G400 when docked.

I just ordered a Lenovo P50 for portable 15.6" heavy matlab and large data processing with occasional light gaming from amazon to Australia (because Australian prices are literally twice the price)... Did i fuck up

I'm going to buy a refurbed X230 with 4 GB RAM and a 320GB HDD. I have 8 GB of RAM in my current laptop that I can put in the X230 but will the new hard drive in the refurbed machine be unbearably slow? I want to wait with upgrading the hard drive until I can find a good deal on one since the company I'm buying from is charging an assload for a SSD upgrade.

I'm planning on getting a x220 for work.
But, since I'm going to do a lot of reading on it, is there by any chance one that would have a better screen for prolonged use ?

>>57262309
define better

resolution? no get a t420
display? there's the IPS screen

>>57263072
Display sounds good, I'll try to find a x220 with IPS. I'll just use meme.lux on top of that.

I fell for the meme and bought this x220. When I turn the laptop over I feel that something moves inside, on the right side. What can it be? I'm on the bus right w so I can't open it up.

>>57264133
it's probably a cockroach

>>57264133
You know that little thing inside your laptop that reads DVD and such ?

>>57264133
>turn the laptop over
>something moves inside
t-that's lewd

I was thinking of buying x220.
How good does it handle 10-bit animu? It's pretty important to me

>>57264326
>x220
>dvd
pick one, nigger

>>57264243
No, it sounds like plastic, I think. >>57264326
My x220 does not have a DVD player.

>>57264939
I remember the i5 2520m on my T420 which is also on the X220 could run 10bit 1080p BDRip weebshit just fine with mpchc + madVR.

I upgraded the cpu since then and use mpv now instead of mpc-hc but yeah it'll do it.

what is the best battery for the x200s

mine lasts just for 1 hours running lubuntu

Thinking about getting a x250, what price range should I look for a used/new machine?

Can I make an x61s pure libre?
I know about the wifi card and I can replace it easily, but does the processor have that intel ME crap?

>>57264133
Does it move in its own?

>>57244890
sorry mate, x220 unless you switched the keyboard.

>>57264133
>>57266930
I opened the hard drive chassis and noticed that the bracket/rubber things are missing. The drive was shoved in there. What do I do now?

>>57249382
if it has a TN panel, get into amazon/ebay and get the IPS panel. 8Gbs of ram is fine if you want to upgrade. SSD is great, you can use an M2 or just a regular drive or both at the same time.

>>57250723
I'm on 60~ charge cycles and it's been little over 6 months with this one. I guess 2~3 years at this rate and it will hold half a charge

>>57251012
>brand loyalty
what are you talking about nigger? most people here with a thinkpad hates lenovo to death. People with thinkpads don't even like thinkpads that much, we all just have different degrees of hardons depending on the models.

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>>57267219
Order the parts? They're cheap

>>57259640

>IPS not necessary

TN is for cucks

>>57266401
i think everything after x60, t400, and x200 uses a core 2 duo, so even if you got libreboot running your processor will have a backdoor
https://stallman.org/intel.html

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>>57244698
I WANT IT SO BAD! Why does it have to be so fucking expensive?!

>>57251853
>regularly visits reddit like a good cuck
>think he can call others cucks
wew lad

fn key in wrong spot

>>57268372
bios

>>57249065
I picked up the screen to make one a while back, but I'm wondering where the best place to get a reliable (GPU won't die immediately) T61p motherboard is. Any suggestions?

How much of a difference does having an SSD do compared to the HDD, assuming the HDD is new? I'm going to buy an X230 but I'll be upgrading to a SSD later on, is the HDD unbearably slow?

Anyone have any opinions on T550 ? I've bought one for 550euros, i5-5300U, iGPU, FHD screen, 256GB SSD, 8GB RAM
Want to know if there's something I should know, maybe they have some flaws(I had T540 before and everyone knows the shitty clickpad, also no bootable m.2)
Also anyone knows if m.2 on T550 can be used for SSD as a boot drive ?

>>57268965
>is the HDD unbearably slow
have you never used a HDD ? also yes, SSD is a huge improvement, especially in laptops since it's no moving parts, no spinning noise, crash resistant, movement resistant, lighter, faster and longer battery life

>>57269011
Not in a laptop ever since I replaced the 5 year old HDD in my 2011 Macbook Pro with an SSD, that's why I'm wondering how a new HDD will perform

Is an x220 for $150 worth it?

I should note that the $150 includes a charger and an 180 GB SSD and I also have an extra 300 GB HDD lying around that I can throw into it as well.

>>57269214

It also has 8GB RAM

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>>57268372
Works on my machine

>>57269071
New HDD hardly improved at all, they're still the same rotations per minute

>>57267434
gonna do that annon. For now I put a piece of paper in there and it stopped moving so that's good.

>>57269386
Don't they degrade over time? My HDD was unbearably slow before I changed it to a SSD, it would literally take minutes to open programs

>>57269532
Maybe it was failing, never had a shitty HDD in 10+ years

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what's a reasonable battery life for an x200s with a 9 cell?
running arch with tlp i only get a little over 3 hours, and i'm assuming it shouldn't be that low...

Just got a t420, and everything is perfect, except for the battery. I'm getting 2 hours at most. Where should I look for a battery, and what kind should I get?
It seems like most batteries on eBay and Amazon stick out the back of the laptop, is that obnoxious?

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>tfw trackpoint cucks will eventually get RSI and stop posting on your board

What's the best laptop with a 1920x1200 screen? W701 is out of my price range and T61/T60p's that appear on craigslist are 1680x1050.

>>57270040
T/W500?

>>57269373
how tho

>>57258254
Anyone? How do I know which stylus pen is compatible with an x230?

>>57260829
It only makes sense if you have dedicated mouse buttons above your trackpad.

I have an E540 and the trackpoint is barely usable, since using the touchpad for lmb/mmb/rmb is pretty much impossible. I never gave it much attention anyway.

A few months ago, I bought an x220 and after a few days, I realized the trackpoint is god damn comfy. I haven't reached for a USB mouse yet

Just got a thinkpad x100e, what's /g/s favorite OS for this old girl? I'll be using this primarily for dicking around with some network stuff and creating an inventory of every piece of hardware connected to a network; windows, linux, phones, printers, you name it.

>>57261602
Yes, that is overkill. A tx20/30 wouldve worked

>>57269756
that thing is pushing 7 years old

don't expect too much

>>57245510
I just got a refurbished x230(i5, 500GB hdd, 4GB ram) off ebay for around 180$, its in pretty good condition(except the battery, only lasts a couple hours). I think 360$+70$ is a bit high if it's used, alot of the used ones I found online were around 250$ and still in great condition. The X230 is a great thinkpad though, do recommend.

>tfw already taken a day off on the 9th of November
>got my riced Thinkpad with Arch installed on it
>new fireplace installed
>recently got a new super comfy blanket
>got a bunch of snacks

Who here is gonna get /comfy/ on the day of the election to watch /pol/ and /r/the_donald implode after they get cucked? Shit's gonna be hilarious

>>57269756
on my x200 at a balanced setting I get roughly 5-6 hours of use on 4/5 brightness, less on the other power settings obviously

Heya team, my t420 touchpad stopped working this morning, in all operating systems. Anyone able to show me what their xinput commands output looks like? Heres mine, it appears none of my mice are there. The internal keyboard works but the thinkclit doesnt? Or the trackpad?

Anyone got any advice? Do I just replace the palm rest?

⎡ Virtual core pointer                          id=2    [master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer                id=4    [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard                         id=3    [master keyboard (2)]
    ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard               id=5    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Power Button                              id=6    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Video Bus                                 id=7    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Sleep Button                              id=8    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Integrated Camera                         id=9    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard              id=10   [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ ThinkPad Extra Buttons                    id=11   [slave  keyboard (3)]

X260, X1 Carbon or Dell XPS 13? I'm mostly programming and doing database work but I occasionally do need to use Photoshop and Illustrator. 16 GB of RAM is essential.

I just got a new power adapter (new yellow hole) for my x220. Sometimes when I plug it in there is an audible popping noise and sometimes a visible spark seen thru the fan grate. How concerned should I be?

>>57272948
battery/features/screen

>>57272948
>not considering the T460s

shit taste

>>57269214
Yes, that's how much I paid for my x230 with a regular hdd. Does it have the ips panel?

why is the hdd on my x61 so loud? it makes a scratching sound like constantly

>>57272914
sorry t420bro can't help you i don't use linux

Try removing the palmrest and checking that the palmrest touchpad cable is plugged correctly maybe?

>>57255080
If you want a Free as in Freedom machine, then yes, there's no libreboot without propietary blobs for the ATi models
The drivers are kind of awful on Windows for those old ATi's, and they aren't officially supported past Vista, but you can get Windows Update drivers for Win7 x64 and x32
There's modded drivers that will work up to Win10 (the WU 7 drivers or the Vista drivers with some hacks will work too), the performance is kind of shitty but it should be better than the shitfest a GMA950 is
In *nix I don't really know the quality of the open source radeon drivers on this old chips, but I expect it to be quite better than Windows
Though you will have less problems with a T60 without discrete GPU, the GMA950 is still supported on Windows 10 ootb, and is supported by any *nix
Those Inspiron's where shit but a maxed out T60p won't be really better, the C2D's are showing their age with the meme websites nowadays, get at least a T400 or something better

>>57258282
The hinghes aren't as sturdy as the normal X61's
There's nothing really wrong with them, but odds they're missing the pen and that's why they're cheaper
>>57264939
I can decode 10 bit 1080p h264 on a Core Duo X60 at 1.8 Ghz, at about 50 FPS
The problem is the GPU, it can't keep up downscaling 1080p, but it works fine for 720p stuff
Pretty much anything past a T400 can do 1080p 10 bit animu, when I had a T420 I could do 4K VP9 with mpv, hi10p was nothing for the i5-2520M

>>57270311
Re-flash embedded controller with software; Replace palm rest and keyboard with those of the corresponding **20 machine. Then use software to bind the page keys and a few others. All essential keys work properly. Was considering making a "classic" T430 or X230, but I already have an X201 and T420, which pull 8-9 hours of battery for work and math as-is.

>>57273404
I was talking about the Ctrl and Fn keys

>>57273417
change the left ctrl key for a right ctrl key

where would you recommend buying/looking for a T420?

>>57273492
Could you elaborate?

>>57273616
take out the left ctrl key
take out the right ctrl key from another keyboard
put the new right ctrl key where the left ctrl key was

I'd do this but the small gap between the Ctrl and Fn keys triggers my autism

>>57256471
I get giddy every time I see these. Next time I have enough for a "new" laptop, I'll get a board and just fix up an old one instead, as long as the board is well-received. I know the T50 one had some big issues, but these ones look top-notch and are even DOA tested before being shipped. If a version was made that supported the X61 Tablet's digitizer, I would purchase it instantly.

>>57272977
Doesnt that have a bad battery life cause it's internal and the screen's sgrb gamut is shit?

>>57255080
>dell inspiron 1525
Had that laptop for a while. Hated it but in retrospect wasn't that bad.

And why are you going for something so old? Go for at least first-gen if not second-gen core i cpu thinkpads (i.e. X201, T410, X220, T420, etc). Anyway, as >>57273248 said if you're going windows, you'll only be able to use MS's basic ATI drivers which are for ancient ATI GPUs that ATI/AMD hasn't written drivers for for Win7-10, they work okay enough. But you should def be going linux with it anyway because it has way better drivers for old ATI shit than you can have on Windows.

>>57273616
Not him but I'm >>57269373

You can swap the Fn and Ctrl keys in the BIOS settings

You can also get a spare Right Ctrl keycap from the internet and put it where the Fn keycap is, moving the Fn keycap to where Left Ctrl used to be, so that the key actually is labeled as what it does when they're swapped in BIOS

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Hiro use thinkpad

What laptop can you recommend to play old school RuneScape smoothly and for a freshman at uni

>>57276788
T420 or x220

so it's 2:00 am and my x200t just woke me the fuck up with what sounded like a makeshift air raid siren

the thing fired off 2 sets of 6 alternating high and low beeps and then died.

anyone know what the hell that was about? i looked up beep codes but didn't find anything.

>>57252277
Wtf, I got an X230 with an i5-3320m, IPS, 8GB RAM and an SSD for around 350€

>>57277576
low battery warning perhaps?

>>57277576
Thats the low battery warning. My X61t did that to me last week.

Whats the difference between 55++ and 70++ 9 cell batteries for t420?

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So i've just picked up my x220.

A few questions:

1. Is there anywhere cheaper than lenovo themselves to buy the genuine battery in australia (amazon+shipping is like 200 ausbucks for the 9 cell).
2. My indicator lights don't work on the inside and outside (sleep, wifi etc). Is this a common issue/ an easy fix?
3. The power button - is it supposed to feel like nothing when you press it? It almost feels like it's been pushed in too far.

>>57278277
Nothing. 70 batteries are just for the DRM on the T/W*30 models. They work just fine on a T420.

>>57278596
1: look for official service points.
2: time to replace the inverter
3: it should feel like a rubber dome button.

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sleep tight, thinkpado

>>57278818
Thats a macbook bag not a T410 bag anon.

>>57278848
That's a W520. :/

Does anybody use an ExpressCard in their laptop? I've got a 54mm slot and they're cheap but I was wondering if they do anything other than USB ports that might be useful.

>>57257943
>Its hotter than the x230 but runs cooler than both my x220 and t420 did.
what temps anon? I'm running x220 at 47~50 does it run cooler?

>tfw i want to sell my T420 and get a W530 but I like my T420 too much.

>>57267409
this

>>57263114
TN is a piece of shit on pretty much all lenovos, the difference with the IPS panel is huge.

>>57279198
I use my external GPU every day.

>>57249496
x220 brand new 9 h
t420 brand new 12+ h

real life time tho is
x220 - 4-6 h
t420 - 4 - 5 h

How does t420 work with 8.1?

>x220 i5 @ 2.6 ghz

Is 42 - 55 C normal running temp ?
Using ubuntu 16, running ~20 or so tabs in chromium, mostly chans, one youtube and wikipedia etc. terminal VIM and file browser.
While not using the chromium and just do offline stuff the temp goes to 35-38.

Is this normal or should I reapply the thermal paste soon ?

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Finally got my egpu (gtx 750ti 2gb) working

Going from 30 fps on low to 60 fps on high is glorious

>>57282113
Go straight to windows 10

Windows 8.1 is not good

My x220 came with a 90w adapter. Is it safe to use for charging the battery? Isn't the adapter 65w normally?

>>57282416
>Finally
What was the issue and how did you solve it?

From my experience setting up an eGPU was pretty easy, only plug cables and install the driver.

>>57282600
Legit thinkpad batteries have regulated protections boards on them, which means they only charge with set amout of power, decided by the battery itself.
If you got some offbrand chink battery without any protection, then it might be a problem.

>>57282842
How can I check that?

>>57282842
just because the adapter can give more power does not mean it does that if the device does not need it...

>>57282113
like shit, install gentoo instead

>>57244177
I hardly ever get responses, not sure what I'm doing wrong but I'm looking for some purchase advice what can I get that is:

- Post 2010
- Can take my SSD and extra RAM
- Around €300 refurbished
- Build quality of an elitebook
- Preferably around 13" (14" is okay)

I was thinking getting an 8570p but most that I can find have shitty 1449x768 resolution, they're like €300 in my country (the i5 model)

>>57283251
Meant to say 8470p which is the 14" variant

>>57282669
First off, the graphics card didnt even show up at first, so I had to uninstall the driver and download an older version. After doing that the graphics card finally showed up on device manager

Since I had more than 4gb of ram I then got the error 12 code. I first put just 2gb and it worked but 2gb for games is utter shit so I looked for another solution.

I had to get diy gpu setup 1.30 and then started trying all sorts of compactions to no avail, so I contacted nando, the guy who made it and I asked him questions for 2 days until he finally nailed a solution

Works great, setup was a bitch though

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How can I put itback to the place it belongs? Model is t420

>>57253496
How do you like it? Might get one just to have the 3.0 compatibility.
Also, are there any ultrabay blu-ray drives? I was looking around, but couldn't find anything.
I guess they would be expensive, but fucking neat.

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>>57256985
More actually. My dad got me an Edge back in 2010 and it had the chiclets
>EDGE
Yeah I know, but it served me for 4 years until I built my gaymen PC. Just recently got a T420 for school, and holy shit is it comfy.
>tfw triple drive setup
This shit is bananas.

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>>57244177
Are Gen 2 intel i5s still viable this decade? Asking b/c alot of ppl are using t420s.

>>57283737
>triple drive

Huuuuh?

>>57283917
... yes
they're like 30% slower than the latest processors.
the only thing they aren't good at is battery life, heat, and integrated graphics.
>>57283685
not him, but I hate those things
They use a lot of power for seemingly no reason
Some of them cause a shit load of system interrupts and makes my system laggy
and you can't boot off them (pretty much the main need for usb 3)

>>57277687
I only buy refurbished.

>>57281951
>x220 - 4-6 h
Only if you watch videos all the time/ a stream.
I can easily get 6-8 hours of constant browsing out of it.

>>57283251
You probably don't get any replies because the majority of people here only care for Thinkpads.
That being said, you can easily get an X220 for that price, refurbished, but it only comes with 1366x768 resolution.

>>57284198
SATA + Ultrabay SATA + mSATA SSD.

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Help me out guys.
I get horizontal screen tearing while playing video on t430 win7. I have latest drivers installed and google gives me nothing.

>>57283395
>Since I had more than 4gb of ram I then got the error 12 code.
Weird. This never happened to me and i run 16gb, as i said earlier everything was plug and play with the exp gdc adapter.

Well at least you got it working, neat.

>>57283917
As a reference an i7 2720qm is only ~37% slower than the latest 6770hq so an i5 is more than viable.

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CHEAP-Lenovo-Thinkpad-X220-Laptop-Fast-Core-i5-2-5Ghz-4Gb-128Gb-SSD-Webcam-/351755394447?hash=item51e6415d8f:g:Ta0AAOSw6n5XreXX

Is this a good model /g/? I have never purchased a think pad is this a good deal for a X220 and is an X220 good?

>>57283737
I hope to god none of those drives are hard drives in $CURRENTYEAR

>>57284490
>windows
Use mpv for all videos, and find God.

>>57284648
no idea how good boy points converts to USD, but $170 USD is really good for an x220 with an ssd (normally you can only get one with a hard drive for that much)
Just make sure you get a new battery because that 6 cell will probably be painful

>>57284722
$170 = £139.45 not to bad. It,s the cheapest I could find. Ty for the battery tip.

>>57284652
>paying over 4x the price for just storage
1tb SSD ~$60
1tb SSD $250+

Any advice on getting a new battery for my t420? What kind should I get, on from where?

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Just got mine today (Thinkpad Yoga 14 [best buy variant]). Fucking god-tier.
>1080p IPS display
>excellent battery life
>Wacom stylus is lighter and more responsive/precise than N-Trig ones
>Keyboard, track pad, and track point are the best I've ever used on a laptop
>rugged build
>Nvidia 940M GPU

>>57284805
And I forgot to check the price of 2tb drives because they used to be too tall. $100 for a 2tb 7mm high >seagate

>>57284842
>glossy display
>windows 10
I'm just gonna stick to my X220...

>>57284889
I've gotten used it from my LG G3

>>57245547
Anons on /g/ persuaded me to buy a used x220. Like you its been the best laptop i've ever bought. It makes me cry to think they dont make them like this anymore because "thin and light"

>>57284842
that display is only good in a dark room.

What's better:
>SSD in bay and HDD in main HDD slot
or
>HDD in bay and SSD in the main slot?
I have this cheap ass caddy from my prev. laptop, and had issues there (HDD ran only in SATA I in the caddy)

>>57285407
I have SSD in both, but I say it being on the main slot is better since they might have reduced costs by making the drive slot slower (sata 2 instead of 3)

>>57283495
I had this problem, get a very thin screwdriver and try to put the spring back with it, it isn't that hard to do.

>>57285440
Speccy identified the bay slot as SATA III

>>57285407
ssd in the hard drive bay since that's full 6gbit
hdd in the trash

>>57285110
It actually looks pretty good in person. My phone camera doesn't really do it justice.

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>>57285445
Did it but broke up one small thing and now I need to take care when using this switch

>>57285407
SSD in msata slot and HDD in slot1 and slot2, or slot1 if you have a x220.

You won't notice difference in daily usage between SATA2 and SATA3.

>>57285463
Then any of them should be fine

Or if you were asking for better lifespan because you move your laptop alot I'd go with one nearest to center

New thread:
>>57286162

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>>57282338
bumparoo

>>57286175
It's pretty good.