/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

X60s reporting in

I own a Thinkpad T520 laptop running windows 7.

There is some setting which keeps auto-adjusting my brightness levels to the colors on the screen. I thought this was a problem with Intel Control Center so I checked it, but strangely enough auto brightness wasnt an option in the program. So I uninstalled Intel Control Center, but the brightness keeps changing.

Does anyone have any idea why this keeps happening? I imagine that it is probably the result of some bloatware program on this PC.

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All me btw :^)

t420 a best

Can buy a t431s, 8 ram, 128 ssd
should I do it?

>>57218488
and of course I forgot to mention the price
250 euros
also pretty sure it's a i5-3437U

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anyone know how the Ideapads are? Im looking for something abit more portable. any help appreciated

>>57218523
just no

>>57218523
just get an X series Thinkpad, the Ideapds arent good

>>57217037
Update on this; found some replacement part on aliexpres, although the product picture shows an US keyboard rather than a Korean.

Still looking around for alternatives.

I got a t430 with 320gb 7200 hdd and 4gb ram, should I get a msata 128gb to make it faster?

Any reason to pick a T430 over an i7 dell latitude? It's a rather attractive deal

Thinking about getting an mSATA SSD for my x220t. Do you think it'll be a big deal that it's running SATAII instead of SATAIII? I'll mostly be using it for reading shit, drawing, and PowerPoint presentations on Windows 7. I can't imagine it'll matter much since I'm not doing anything data-heavy on it.

>>57218679
>Do you think it'll be a big deal that it's running SATAII instead of SATAIII?
It's not noticeable in daily usage unless you transfer big files regularly.

is there any good, light model with an SSD and no HDD?

>>57218692
Cool. That's what I figured. Think I'll go for the mSATA SSD for the OS and keep the 320gb HDD in there for files.

>>57218679
If you're not editing video files in your SSD or shit like that, it won't matter.

>t. X230 with mSATA SSD owner

>>57218704
Buy a X220 or X230.
Put an mSATA SSD in it, take out the HDD.
Or just put a SATA SSD in the place of the HDD.

Or boot from a pen drive and store your shit on the CLOUD(tm).

got a x201 with i5 420m 4gb ram and 320gb hdd for 99 euros for my mom.was it a good price ?

Gonna visit two x220 ads and see what they are like.
My area is known for scammers. What should I check to know that I'm not getting fucked?

>>57218852
>>57218913
mSATA fag here too, T420 with 850 evo.

M S A T A B O Y S

>>57219066
Other than checking the condition of it you should check if the bios is locked and that the specs are what you expected

i was stoked to have a no name 64gb msata come in the t420. kept the ebay price low but still had something to start with ootb. wonder what deployment only needed that little drive

>>57219066

You should lube up your asshole before you leave, because they ain't about to lube it up for you ;P

>>57218612
that's what I ordered. msata evo 850 + 2 x 4 ram sticks that I should get tomorrow

>tfw my X230 is crapping itself at rendering a matlab simulation at 30 fps
>tfw 8GB of RAM isn't enough
>tfw considering buying 2x8GB

CPU is fine at 25% though.

>>57218608
Are you sure this model even had a Korean keyboard in the first place? I went ahead and looked at the official spare part listings for T540p,W540 and W541, and they don't show any Korean keyboard options.

I'm thinking between buying T420 and T430.
T430 has better battery and CPU works on less Watts
but T420 has better keyboard

Reposting

Dropped my laptop, got quoted 350 for repair.

Fuck that, reccomend me a decent laptop. I'm thinking a Thinkpad. Must have decent processor and RAM upgradability.

>>57219815
Put a T420 keyboard into the T430 then

>>57219815
>better battery
You must mean better for Lenovo's bottom line.

Battery DRM, not even once.

>>57219815
>>57219867
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads

>>57219872
>not knowing you can just patch out the battery drm

>>57219908
source

>>57219925
https://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ec
Same patch set as the keyboard replacement

>>57219872
>>57219908
wtf is a battery DRM

>>57219985
It doesn't charge third party batteries

How are the thermals on the X220/X230? Does the heat shoot straight down or out the back/sides?

Does anyone know of a solution to the brightness issue after upgrading a T450 screen to an IPS panel?

There's some displays I'm thinking about swapping in, but apparently you lose the ability to adjust the brightness in Windows. For whatever reason, Linux seems to work. I don't think anyone has found a fix.

>>57219977
Thank you, really!

thinking of buying the X240, thoughts? anyone own it?

Does anybody use this year's Precisions ? My 3510 has picked up a really irritating issue that i can't figure out. When i shut the laptop down, whether it be by pressing the power button, or clicking shutdown in windows, the laptop will not turn off 80% of the time. The windows session closes and the screen powers off, but at the point of sudden hdd activity where any laptop should normally power off, this one just hangs indefinitely with the hdd activity and power LED's solid on, the backlight on the keyboard even still works and fades out and stuff. The only thing i can do is hold the power button when it does this, but that adds like 10 secs to boot time when i turn it back on. I have hibernation disabled, its running on an SSD so that shouldn't be an issue anyway, it has the latest BIOS version and the battery charges and dischares just fine. There are few and far between people on google who report a similar issue with precisions and windows 10, but nobody seems to have a proper answer. Any Ideas ?

What's the best X230 dock? Is it the Ultrabase?

>>57219997
surface pro 3 being the biggest offender, sometimes they just decide they dont trust their own factory installed battery, and wont charge it without a bios flash and windows reinstall

>>57219176
msata peasant, how you long to be of the M.2 master race, to spread the word of NGFF

>>57219306
we have some gigabyte brix that only have a single 60gb msata drive, we use them for digital signage

>>57219977
Can you get rid of just the battery DRM with this?
I don't really give a shit about the keyboard.

I'm trying to make a hotspot from my T420. I'm encountering an issue. Everytime I connect to it with my phone, it disconnects after a few minutes. The phone remains on T420's wifi, but has no connection to the internet. I have the Intel network adapter. Any tips how to get it working? (tried reinstalling drivers, did not help)

I am thinking of buying a T430. Thoughts on it? How well does it run W10? RHEL?

Yo ma mans. I just bought a new IPS screen for my x220 online.
Will I be able to install it? I just have screwdrivers at home and I'm a bit clumsy.
I fear I might break something

>>57220758
>>57219977
can I just rename everything but the battery validate to .off to only get the battery thing?

I'm thinking about a daily driver in the 14-15" range, one that can handle some gaming once ME4 comes out, so preferably discrete graphics.
Am i right to be looking into thinkpads or is there a better place to be looking

>>57221042
Oh god damnit that doesn't work
now my delete key is back, and I can't turn on my backlight.
setting everything to .off better work

found T420 in mint condition for 290$
Where could I find 9cell battery for it?

>>57218657

the trackpoint and maybe the keyboard, the screen would often be better on latitude

>>57219643
>tfw im getting t420 with 4gb for matlab
>tfw im fucked

how's that X1 carbon series, anyone experiences?

What's the best Thinkpad from the newer models in the range of ($1300 - 1500)

>>57219763
I found a part list where a KOR option was mentioned as well as a JAP version which I could find on gmarket by searching on the part id.

Perhaps you are right though, it seems impossible to find.

>>57221262
>>57221042
I guess you just have to remake the iso a few times and re flash it a few times to get it to work
Now I've got my keyboard working properly and I can use my 55+ and 55++ batteries from my t420 in my t430
Now I can see how truly shitty the batter life is.

>>57221901
shutup faggot

>>57221728
T460

Finally got around to ordering a new middle mouse button for the ol' x220, so exited to be able to use it properly

Love my x220, i computer in bed, on the bus, at school and in the library. easy to carry around the whole day too

>>57219643
Matlab is not even remotely a problem for me.

>tfw W530 with 3820QM and 32 GB of RAM
>CPU averages 15-20% usage

Never send a normal laptop to do a Workstation's job.

How many thermal sensors does a T420 have and which ones do I use for thinkfan?
There's several temp_inputs in different places of my file system.
For example in coretemp0 or hwmon folders.
They all seem to show different values.
On the other hand tpfc on Windows only finds a single CPU temp sensor.

>>57222390
Have a config.

tp_fan /proc/acpi/ibm/fan
hwmon /sys/devices/virtual/hwmon/hwmon0/temp1_input
hwmon /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon1/temp1_input
hwmon /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon1/temp2_input
hwmon /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon1/temp3_input
(0, 0,  55)
(1, 48, 60)
(2, 50, 61)
(3, 52, 63)
(4, 56, 65)
(5, 60, 69)
(7, 68, 32767)

>>57220145
>>57221901
You're welcome fags
And yeah I had an issue with the patch not working correctly the first few times, but eventually got it to work
I just use it so I can use my ultra chinky batteries with my T430

can anyone send me some ram if they have an extra for my t420? only have 6gb now

>>57222411
Thank you based Anon.
So are there actually multiple sensors or are these just different readings of a single physical sensor?
Will Thinkfan average out the temps or take the highest one at any given moment?

>>57222471

>http://www.downloadmoreram.com/

i just uploaded 2gb for you anon

Where can I buy 9cell battery for T420?
either 55++ (9cell) or 28++ (extra 3 cell)

>>57222575
pls repsond

just bought an x220 tablet, any tips for tricking the thing out? have a 500GB 850 EVO sitting around for it right now, but other than that i'm not sure what upgrades i should throw into the thing.

Mainly getting it for taking notes in lectures, so I think a new battery is the first order of business. Might get that 6cell+slice setup for the mad battery

>>57222575
You mean the docking battery?

>>57222709
Where do I buy the battery?
is sand in batteries on ebay still a thing?

>>57222719
>sand in batteries
I wouldn't be surprised, but the price you pay for a 9 battery in general is outrageous so, pick your poison.

>>57222719
https://www.shop.bt.com/products/lenovo-main-battery-pack-11-1v-8400mah-0a36303-8CFR.html?q=t420
That's the 9 cell, I wouldn't pay that price but that's proably what you're looking at for a reliable source.

>>57221320
Dude you can get a T420 for way less.

Is the 1600x900 HD+ upgrade worth it on the T420? I mean, its like 50 for the panel + 10 for the cable.

I've been thinking about getting a t420. Is it really a meme or are people baiting?

>>57222926
not in my country

>>57223107

what country? you can also check elitebooks or latitudes

>>57223086
T420 is meme-tier, you get good specs for the price but it's mediocre in every other aspect. The screen is particularly horrendous.

Anyone got any experience purchasing the 9 cell from Newegg?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16834985174
69 dollars sounds like an excellent deal. I just want a larger battery life since I'll be flying to Vegas in a few months and I want to watch some chink cartoons/movies without having my laptop die on me.

>>57218181
In some cases this is a function of the panel itself, and can't be changed. I fucking hate it too and avoid buying laptops that use it.

>>57218523
Idea pads are not Thinkpad and are fucking trash. The keyboard flex is disgusting and the build quality is just terrible.

>>57223086
Yeah it's fine.

>>57223136

the screen is the only bad thing actually

Found somebody selling a W530 for €599 with the following specs:

Intel Core i7-3820QM (Quadcore, up to 3.7 GHz)
8GB RAM
500GB HDD (7200rpm)
Intel HD Graphics 4000
nVidia Quadro K2000M 2GB
15,6" Full HD screen (1920x1080)
Windows 7 Professional

What do you guys think?

T460 or the T460p?

How much better is the nvidia graphics card than the integrated intel?

>>57223338
Definetly not worth it.
Too expensive.

>>57223338
Well worth it, even if it's a bit higher than I'd be willing to pay personally. A specced-out W series is a real sight to behold.

>>57218523

Do not waste money on an Ideapad.They are junk.....it will bring you nothing but heartache. If you are looking to buy a Lenovo, you should be thinking about buying a nice used x200 or x201(if you are looking for something small, light and portable with good durability).

If you are looking for a slightly bigger display, you want to be going for a T400 or T420.

Those are the Business Class Thinkpads. It depends on what you want to use the Thinkpad for. My Thinkpad is a X60s(which is ancient and I only paid £60 for it). It is a very high quality machine.

Although it is obsolete compared to new Laptops in terms of speed, I am bothered......the build quality of it is amazing. I am not sure how old the battery is in mine but I get 3 hours use from it running my display at the highest brightness setting, the wifi and bluetooth enabled and I generally listen to music with it when I am either browsing/posting here on /g/ and on /vr/ or I am working on either programming or writing using my text editor.

It also doesn't run hot either......

I have an Advent Roma Laptop that was given to me......

That Laptop was made in 2010......it runs hot enough to cook your dinner on and if it is running on using the battery.....it holds it charge for about 45 minutes to an hour at most.

>>57223247

They are total garbage.....my sister is looking to buy one of them........bare in mind she is a dumbshit student......

I told her they are shit......she thinks it is worth £280 with a i3, 8 gig of Ram and a 1TB h/drive. Oh.....and no Nvidia Graphics.....just Intel garbage. That is with a student discount.....

An i3 new in 2016???? An i3 is not much better than a Core 2 Duo.

>>57223690
>>57223765
Shut the fuck up, you retard, and stop with the ellipsis, you unsuferable cunt.

>>57223338
I'd personally aim for a W520.
But 600€ seems like a decent price for those specs, definitely if that includes a new battery.

Modern motherboard for the t420 + nice display when

China please make it a thing ;-;

So when is Lenovo going to revive X220 and T420 style Thinkpads?

>>57218165
I have a t420, and the sd card reader is retardedly slow. It has been writing for the past five minutes, and I made no changes. Anyone else have this issue?

>>57222940
I'd say so. Try getting an M14x R2 it'll a lot better than the stock t420/30 screen

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Hey engi fags.

Any of you have a newer ThinkPad with integrated graphics (xx50,xx60, x1 carbon even)? How does it fair with cad software?

I don't really want to buy a workstation (i already have a pretty solid desktop), but I do admit that my x220 leaves a lot to be desired in that regard. I wouldn't mind something with a little more power.

>>57224426
>newer Thinkpads
Older thinkpads are more than enough for CAD work. HD3000 or HD4000 do a fine work.

Want more performance? Add more RAM, or an SSD to quickly open all those CAD objects.

Why isn't your X220 not good?

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Any opinions on the thinkpad N22? (Price is in CAD)

>>57224580
not a real thinkpad™
but might be nice as a backup/beater laptop

>>57223995
>wanting shit thinkpads

>>57224580
shit

>>57224580
Not even a pretend Thinkpad, it's a Lenovo Chromebook with Windows installed. That price gets you an X220 easily, which is at least a real computer.

Just slapped a T7200 and 120gb SSD into my T60p, wow this thing flies now. Still needs a battery though.

Just picked up a T420 and installed Manjaro KDE. Are there any graphical frontends for controlling the properties of the trackpoint?

Anyone know if an X40 keyboard will fit in an X61?

>>57224504
Well I'm still tweaking things a bit, I don't use it very often. But I already have pretty poor performance with Windows 7 just in general. (I usually use Linux on it as just a general study programming PC) but I think it is more the CPU being weak. A lot of things in solidworks are kinda sluggish feeling. (IE whenever you click a part, it takes time to highlight the whole thing) I'm also kinda wanting a computer with a little better battery life (x250) so I was just curious if I would see any more sleek performances when it comes to my smaller projects or not.

>>57223247
I am still livid about listening to my friend and getting a U410. Worse was that it started acting up in every conceivable way after I got my sister a U310.

Opinions on expresscard wireless adapters? My T60 can't handle 1080p, so I was thinking of putting a crystalhd mini-pci card in and using expresscard for wireless instead

>>57225382
Don't you have a second available mPCIe slot you can use? Or do you have WWAN too?

>>57225421
Using it for wwan, yeah.
Honestly I feel like I could probably live without even inbuilt wifi, so the real question is whether or not the crystalhd card will work. Does anyone know if it will?

>>57225637
>wwan
why

you can just use tethering from your phone

>"Nvidia" mentioned in title
>No mention of any GPU in description.

God fucking damnit.

Thinkpads is for fagboys, it's such a hyped piece of shit.
My school has those, I think that tells something.

>>57224709
Any chance you can test an sd card in your slot, and if it writes properly and doesn't take 100 years to do so? As for your question, there should be something in settings, just make sure that you have the synaptics driver installed for good functionality.

>>57225825
yeah man my mom won't buy one for me either

Does anyone use the fingerprint reader on their thinkpad? I have one but haven't used it yet

>>57225893

Get a job fag, you poor thing still leeching off your parents :(

>>57225841
Sure gimme a second

>>57226111
I don't, i'd rather have a strong password to decrypt my drives.

>>57225841
Nothing wrong with read or write. For whatever reason it doesn't like the pictures I took with my camera though, even after being copied to the hard drive.

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A poor friend of mine has an old thinkpad that has suffered through intense abuse through several owners and is still working just fine

What do i need to know in order to salvage it to acceptable standards of today? i'm rather clueless about how to proceed about it to be honest, i think the poor old thing deserves better

>>57226627
Depends of how old, what model?

Some times it's ok to let them rest, they have earned it.

Are the speakers on the T420 decent? Based on the pictures I've seen, they seem to be fairly large and substantial speakers, however is that just due to a misleadingly large grille?

>>57227764
>they seem to be fairly large and substantial speakers
are you looking at the t520 maybe?
the t420's are god awful.
My iphone 6s+'s speaker is louder and sounds better.
My w520 sounds pretty good though, but still nowhere near as good as my macbooks'.

>>57227764
They are shit. I use a cheapo usb portable speaker thats better.

>>57223690
alr8 m8 thx for the scoop

>>57218488
>>57218507
maybe to yes

I would like to switch to Debian from Winshit on my T420

My unit has NVIDIA NVS 4200m and the integrated ones, and on windows i have been using optimus graphics, not because i need the power from NVIDIA, but because DVI port on dock wont work since it needs NVIDIA for it, otherwise im happy with the integrated one.

Does anyone have experience with these graphics, can I somehow use integrated Intel graphics otherwise but switch to NVIDIA when I dock it and use a external monitor on Linux?

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Im about to upgrade my t420 with 2x8GB RAM. I already have 4GB. Should I take out 4GB and run 16GB with 2 modules or run 20GB with 3 modules?

>>57228366
isn't there only 2 slots on these thinkpads?

>>57228366
t420 only has 2 modules so 2x4 or 2x8.

I apologize for asking to be spoonfed but I'm wondering what your guys take on what kind of ram I should get for a x220 I just came into. I have no real idea on what's a good option other than the fact that the first one can use both 1.35 v 1.5 volts so I could possible save some battery life with it, other than that I have no clue.

I've got three options here and I'm not sure what to pick.

1: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148607&cm_re=DDR3_1333_204-Pin-_-20-148-607-_-Product

2:http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820226267

3:http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820233217

Any help is greatly appreciated.

>mfw they don't give you a little screw with your brand new msata ssd

what am i supposed to do now, fugg

>>57228348
>but because DVI port on dock wont work since it needs NVIDIA for it
what

-posted from my T420 with iGPU only with monitor plugged on the mini dock series 3 via DVI

>>57228423
Go with the Crucial imo because of ddr3l

>>57228461
thats because you have only iGPU, on units with NVIDIA its connected to the NVIDIA one and wont work with iGPU, only with the dedicated graphics

>>57228460
borrow one from something in the laptop with two or more

>>57228490
Well that sounds awful.

>>57228511
It is, i dont need the nvidia graphics otherwise for anything else but it works nicely under windows

forgot to mention that my model is indeed the T420s one not T420, if it makes any difference, but i found this

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_T420s

says this:

>It seems that the digital video ports (DVI or DisplayPort) only connected to the NVIDIA-card (Only if you have one, of course, see ThinkWiki - Switchable Graphics and Docks). So you can't use a monitor via DisplayPort/DVI with the integrated graphics card (Intel). You can solve this problem by switching completly to the NVIDIA card in the BIOS settings, but this uses more battery power. A better solution is to activate the NVIDIA-Card only when you connected to an external monitor.

I guess i have to see at some point that can i get it to work under Debian somehow then

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Hey guys I am saving up to get either a X220(or 230) or a T420. My question is guys which verson do you think works better for the FHD screen mod? Ive seen online where people do the mod, but which one is easier?
>also posting from my shitty R61

>>57228551
Dunno if you can mod the x220 to fhd but for the t420 you only need an lvds adapter that works.

>>57228551
t520
imo 15" is as small as i can go without scaling, and you do NOT want to use scaling
The only OS I've found that does scaling well is mac os, and it only does 4:1 scaling

>>57228496
tried to salvage a crew from another laptop but it won't fit. Holy fuck I got cucked. Why doesn't a fucking screw comes with the ssd it's fucking retarded

Just how Fucking rare is x201s? I am searching for a working model for months now

>>57229062
fully-working and at a reasonable price = near impossible
they pop up on ebay every 3~6 months, but sell for ridiculous prices

it's probably cheaper/quicker to transplant the lid from a wxga+ x200s onto a standard x201 if all you're after is the high res screen

t420fag here, got lucky with it and scored one with nvs 4200m graphics, should i use the libre nvidia driver or should i stick to intel graphics driver?

>>57229132
Goddammit, not only screen. x201s has also higher max ram and better processor. Do you roughly know prices for x201s on ebay?

>>57228496
update: found a fitting screw in an old ass camera, pretty lucky here

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>decide to finally install Middleton's BIOS
>its removed "due to issues with the item's content"
What the fuck archive.org

is it bad if the 2 screws securing the keyboard are missing? What dimension do these screws have?

how do you move up and down the devices in the boot menu? the "+" key moves down a device (wtf) but I can't seem to find the key to move up one

Never thought I'd post here, but getting a refurb business laptop might actually fit my situation
Any advice?

So my 8540w is probably dead without repair (5-6yo, thermal problems, motherboard problems, probably water damage).
Thing is I got 16GB RAM and a 256GB SSD for it like a year ago.

Looking for:
- Something smaller and lighter than 8540w (preferably 13.3"/14" and <2kg)
- >2013
- Similar CPU, don't care much about GPU
- Same build quality (no plastic under the palms)
- I can swap my SSD (preferably also HDD) and RAM in there

I was thinking an 8460p (the i7 version) which are around €250 refurbished, any thinkpad ideas?

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>>57229364
price premium isn't worth the ~10% bump in cpu desu
just look at the recently sold listings:
$150 for a x201s with spots on screen and missing key.
$250+ for a functioning unit. f that noise.

you can swap lids between x200/x201/x200s/x201s; google x200s lid swap

and btw, not sure what higher max ram you're referring to:

x200/x200s support 8gb unofficially (requires dual rank 2x4gb dimms*)
x201/x201s support 8gb officially

* look at the number of chips on the 4gb dimm: if 8 chips on each side, it's dual rank/2rx8/low-density
if 4 chips on each side, it's single rank/1rx8/high-density

how does the T43 hold up today? Been thinking of getting one.

>>57229646
shift - sometimes works.

>>57229795
I figured out a way to do it with only one key, but thanks anyway. Installing w7 right now

There's no way to recover a battery that's been stored for a longer time without charge, right? Battery manager indicates that the battery cannot be charged.

I'm in the market for a new laptop. I'm looking at the T460 or the T460p. I want something that will last me at least 3-4 years.

Is a Thinkpad the way to go or should I look into another brand? There's so many options and they all 'sound good'.

I'm not even sure of the differences between the T460 and the T460p. Which one has a more robust build? I hate it when laptops feel cheap and plastic.

are the Twist and X230 keyboards the same? I fucking hated using that keyboard on the Twist.

>>57228366
16GB is overkill for a T420 imho. Unless you do really heavy video and photo editing, I would go 8GB

>>57230131
even a T430 would still last you at least 3 years, Thinkpads in general will last forever, the newer shit less so than the classics but still good.
Also look into Elitebooks.

Does anyone have problem with charging? My x220 won't change and beeps periodically when connected to ac unless I reboot.

>>57230397
>Also look into Elitebooks.
The laptop I currently have is an Elitebook, and I've had it since 2009. Debian + XFCE and it runs OK, but I think it is time for an upgrade.

If I'm buying a new laptop now, I'd rather not get something already a couple of years old.

The T460p configured the way I want is $1,049.99 on the Lenovo website (i5, nvidia graphics, 8G of RAM, 1080p IPS screen, 72Wh battery). Seeing how I paid $1400 for my current Elitebook in 2009 I think that's a good deal.

>>57224652
>T60p
Do you have the AFFS/Flexview screen on it?
If so then it's worth it in my opinion to install a T61 mobo on it for 64 bit even faster CPU, bigger RAM cap (8 GB) and SATA 2 speeds (with Middleton's BIOS).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m74otZqd2Y

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I get this shit when I enable hwdec on Windows. What do?

For raw power, which one is the best for under $200?

Planning on doing an SSD upgrade, of course

what's the optimal battery threshold to maintain? 80%?

>>57230589
I've got the same problem as well, which leads me to think that it's the build of mpv that's the problem.

>>57230604
Raw power? Only cpu matters in that game.
So just compare cpu's of the laptops which you can find under 200
With used laptops nobody can tell your local price so they cant tell you which is the best one.

>>57230589
>>57230710
Yep, tried the latest sourceforge build and it doesn't do this shit.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpv-player-windows

>>57229661
Small bump
tldr; I need a €300ish 13"/14" i5/i7 machine, any ideas?

>>57230715
I live in rural North Dakota, so I effectively have no local market for 100 miles.

Looks like I'll probably get a t420.

>>57218704
refurbed x220 owner here
can vouch for it, no complaints for the time I've been using it. As for lightweight, I carry it in the laptop sleeve of my rucksack and can feel no significant change. The sleeve is close to the body so all the weight is above your hips and doesn't pull you over backwards.

>>57229215
>scored one with nvs 4200m graphics
>lucky
lel

>>57231017
explain

Whats the average battery life for a T420?
How could I improve it?

>>57231026
Mobile graphics are a meme, they are useless and throttle your laptop due to extra heat

>>57231307
oh, so its nothing, and youre just retarded then?

>>57231326
Pretty much, since a young age I started to display autistic behavior. Nowadays, this behavior has taken a turn into homosexuality, but I've embraced it, I just love to gobble as many cocks as I can.

Seriously though, as far as drivers go, as long as it uses optimus correctly, it's fine. If you don't manage to make it work, just have the intel going and use the nvidia only when you need (gaming and such).

>>57230461
I'm still using the T500 I bought new for $1,500 when I started university in 2009. Didn't even get the most powerful processor (P9500), but after slapping in a 250gb SSD, the thing absolutely flies, even with Windows. Battery life is shit and it's heavy, but that's what I have my Inspiron 11 for.

You should ask yourself what you are looking for in a computer that your Elitebook does not currently offer. Because honestly, I don't find that the Thinkpads of 2016 do anything appreciably better than their 2008-2009 counterparts. In fact they are sometimes worse.

>>57231326
Okay faggot, let me list you the reasons to get a mobileGPU:
You are /v/ manchild.
oh and thats pretty much it then
so good day and >>>/v/

>>57231427
>le /v/ maymay xd
congratulations on contributing nothing of value, and actively making this board a shittier place to be

>>57231447
>vidyafaggot calling others a shitter
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>57231467
who said anything about videogames? i dont play videogames on my laptop. ditch the meme spouting, it makes you seem underage.

>>57231584
>vidyafaggot calling others a underage
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>57231605
>if i spout memes enough, people will think im right

>>57231621
>vidyafaggot calling others a memer
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>windows update hanging

just fuck my shit up senpai, fucing hate this shit

>>57229716
If you install a very lightweight distro on it and only use it to shitpost then it should be okay.

Trying to do anything more intensive will be impossible.

http://ebay.com/itm?itemId=381821041800

I'll be getting a new SSD and battery anyway.

Does this look legitimate to you guys?
Seems so to me, and the seller seems legitimate.

Does T430 have better screen than T420?
I'm thinking between these 2

>>57232246
I have both and I'd say it's about the same.

What's the absolute cheapest Thinkpad I can buy just to use as laptop for when I'm travelling? I only need it for shitposting and watching movies.

>>57231705
>updating windows

>>57232246
It's the same.

Hey so I'm looking for a new laptop I have a gaming pc so don't need a ton of power but ideally something to run vmware on and that doesn't use a broadcom chipset for Wi-Fi. Intel chipset I guess is preferable. Battery life is the biggest thing so upgradable batteries is probably what I'm looking to do. Dosent have to have a large screen and I'm thinking for battery life smaller screen is prob better

>>57230112
Replace the cells.

>>57230112
>>57232769
You might be able to get them working if you open it up and charge the cells manually a bit. I'd just get a new battery..

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>>57232769
Any idea how I can find these?

>>57232807
That's not the type of cells I was expecting. Any markings aside from 7.0 Wh?

>>57232803
They're not easy to find here for a reasonable price. Got this today, but seller didn't know it was shot. Ordered another one before, but was stopped at the border for some reason.

>>57232832
Yeah me neither. No markings whatsoever.

>>57232846
I would assume from the picture that they're flat pack LiPos, but I'm not sure how you'd go about finding replacements.

>>57232909
Maybe I'll try to recharge them, I think I have a charge circuit lying around somewhere.

>>57232807
Oh damn, I thought cells were just standard Li-ion rechargable batteries. Was looking forward to installing my own batteries after this one dies. Might be a bit harder like this...

Pic related, cordless drills use these easy to replace cells.

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>>57233015
whoops forgot pic

>>57233015
Most ThinkPads use 18650 cylindrical cells.

>>57233015
Maybe it's just the t420s' ultra flat stupid battery

>>57232807
There could be 2 or 3 18650 batteries in each cell

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Reminder that this Thursday Apple will release a matte black MacBook Pro and you'll all be MAC'D

>>57233075
>CD drive
>thick as Windblows laptops

>>57233087
That's from 2006 dumbass.

>>57233103
>muh whats old is new again meme

Hey /g/uys going to grab a thinkpad in a few days.
I'm looking at T520 and T530. Pros and cons?
T520 has 16Gib of ram and 240ssd, T530 has 8 120 respectively .
Both are FHD.
Recommendation?

>>57233893
Forgot to mention both cost the same

>>57233893
IPS or kill self

Thinking about getting a Thinkpad 13. I'm leaning towards the IPS display and it comes in at around $650, should I do it?

Just to confirm:

The T420s will have a lower battery life than the T420, but it will not be under-powered compared to the original, right?

How do I get the media keys (fn of the arrow keys) to work with vlc?

>>57234487
>vlc

>>57234487
What OS?

>>57234501
Maybe he is running Haiku or something, who knows

>>57234507
Oh sorry yeah, linux mint + i3.

>>57231115
9 cell battery my nugga.

>>57232246
You can just get a better panel and replace it. Remember to get the HD+ cable too.

>>57220905
Just download the maintenance manual, man. And as long as you have small enough screw drivers it should be fine.

>>57221214
You should probably not get a Thinkpad for gaming. Try a dell xps 15.

>>57221320
amazon.

>>57223086
One of my friends bought it and it's pretty good for its price, as long as you aren't using it for anything intense. It's your mobile computer when you are away from your desktop.

>>57234475
No, unless the t420 has an upgraded cpu.

T420s has soldered cpu, t420 doesn't.

>>57234853
>tfw dock + upgraded cpu + 3 drives + eGPU
It's perfectly capable of being a desktop replacement.

>>57221663
Why not use a desktop for Matlab? Not everything has to be on a fucking notebook. Notebooks are crippled for portability.

>>57235000
Well yes, but that involves buying tons of extra stuff. You might be better off spending all that extra money on an actual desktop and then spend $100-200 on a t420 or x201 or x220.

>fell for the Thinkpad Edge meme years ago
>chiclet keyboard already replaced
>hinge was questionable from the get-go, finally shatters
>barely any spares at all for my machine type
>hinge replacement requires a complete disassembly, incl. the system board
>threaded inserts crumble out of the case as the laptop is disassembled
>replacement cases for this machine type are expensive and rare on ebay
>wrong hinge part was delivered, have to wait for a replacement to ship in
I just can't bring myself to bin it.

>>57235020
Let this be a lesson. Only get true thinkpads

>>57228460
You can buy complete packs of Thinkpad screws for dirt cheap off Ebay. Service manual recommends replacing them because they have locking compound on most threads which I consider overkill, but I love those screw kits.

>>57229447
Check Thinkpad forums, which if Anons knew existed would eliminate all Thinkpad threads.

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>>57229447
>wew_lad.png
http://www.xup.in/dl,11445040/Dual-IDA_SATA-II_Whitelist_SLIC21_ThinkPad_X61_Tablet_BIOS_%281.25-1.02%29.rar/

>>57235171

Nice rootkit desu.

>>57235020
I know that feel brah.
Get a T420, just DO IT

>>57232341
t60/61

>tfw using the shit dead 2nd hand 6 cell battery when I'm at home while leaving the 9 cell unused at 50%

Lads, T420 just arrived.

I recall some post here saying that you can put up to 3 HDD/SDD's on this thing. Can someone point me to the mysterious third place?

>>57235756
mSATA SSD on the back, next to the ram
HDD1 on main drive bay
HDD2 on optical drive bay with a caddy

Best price/performance mSATA SSD for X220?

>>57235885
Thanks, Anon.

>>57235885
>mSATA SSD on the back, next to the ram

This is the one I was looking for. Thanks, Anon.

Can you tell which are the standard, /g/ approved, 8GB RAM sticks and mSATA SSDrives?

>>57236331
>/g/ approved
All ram is the same shit, just get two of the cheapest PC3-12800 or PC3L-12800 8GB sticks and for the msata ssd /g/ will shill the 850 evo.

I fell into the 850 evo msata meme, regret it now since for the same price could've gotten 2 Kingdian 250gb m280 SSDs or a 500gb one. This maybe helps >>57236257 too.

>>57230112
My new in box 9 cell didn't respond at first but I left it on for a few hours and it revived. Now it charges to 98 percent or something.

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>buy two of pic related and four msata ssds + the msata ssd at the back
>thinkpadding with five msata ssds
gotta go fast

>>57236648
maybe should've tried that first, think I fucked it by charging the batteries with the ic still attached. Now it's saying battery not detected.

>>57236807
you absolute madman
post results pls

>>57236807
F A S T
A
S
T

>>57236445
It has no OS, so I haven't even booted it to check whether I have 4GB or 2*2GB memory. I think Murphy's law applies here.

I actually have 2.5" 850 EVO for my main laptop, can't say I have any complaints apart from the fact that I bought it when it was really expensive.

I'm not sure whether it's worth to wait for good Black Friday deals like there were last year as the £ is through the floor.

I just realised, even though I saved £10 going with the no OS option, there's a Windows 7 Pro OA sticker in the battery slot, kek.

Last request, does anyone know where I can download W7 .iso? I'd prefer the checksum to be the same as on Microsoft's website.

>>57236807
[eurobeat intensifies]

Does that even work tho

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>>57236807

>>57236865
What do you mean with the ic still attached? I didn't disassemble mine or anything, just left it in the thinkpad with the charger connected.

>>57233075
When Applel releases iShit in a different color......it's still iShit

>>57236946
Yeah, I did disassemble mine and charged the cells with a separate charger while still connected to the board. I think something went wrong there.

>>57236894
>whether I have 4GB or 2*2GB memory
Open the small back cover where the pcie and ram slots are, then check if it's empty or if you have a 2/4GB stick there.

>can't say I have any complaints apart from the fact that I bought it when it was really expensive
That's what i meant, it's not bad at all but for the same price could've gotten a M280 with double the storage.

Just went to have a look at the X260

>no dedicated volume buttons
>page up/page down buttons in wrong place
>no keyboard light
>massive touchpad

what the fuck lenovo? Now what am I gonna use in 2020...

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>>57237036
>implying I know what size of stick I'm looking at

As for the SSD, my only other experience is the basic Toshiba ones that don't even have any driver software. Which other non-Samsung companies are reputable for quality assurance?

>>57237230
Don't forget Fn+End as insert

>>57237272
It's gonna say if you take it out and flip it over..

>>57237295
For real? Isn't the whole point of thinkpads to be functional? Hope x270 is decent so I'm not stuck with the X220 until in 45 years old

>>57237325
>stuck with the X220 until in 45 years old
I bet sandy bridge will still be useful by then.

>>57237402
I'm 19 do you still bet on that

>>57230569

No but I'm going to do the screen upgrade and Frankenpad it.

Question though, where can I get a decent battery for it? I've seen the ones on ebay are they worth a shit?

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>>57237310
Dude... help me out, man...

>>57237506
that's a piece of ram pretty sure

>>57237434
>sandy bridge
Yeah.

>>57237506
Looks like 1GB PC3-8500 according to https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/pd012623 so it's pretty shit.

The other ram slot is under the keyboard, try looking at it too.

>>57237272
I like Crucial. Got an SSD for my first build 2 years ago and it is still working great. Got an mSATA SSD for my memepad a week ago, did a clean windows install and works like a charm.

>>57237506
Get either of these famalam
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kingston-8GB-2-x-4GB-204-Pin-DDR3-SO-DIMM-DDR3-1333-PC3-10600-Laptop-Memory-/381043285742?hash=item58b7f31eee:g:RFoAAMXQuCdTiNvi
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crucial-Mac-16GB-Kit-8GB-x2-DDR3L-1333-PC3-10600-SODIMM-Memory-Ram-CT2K8G3S1339M/322237010730?_trksid=p2045573.c100505.m3226&_trkparms=aid%3D555014%26algo%3DPL.DEFAULT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38530%26meid%3D61546db7bed0418da29b5d113161e2cb%26pid%3D100505%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26
8 gb should suffice unless you are going to do very intensive shit.

>>57237622
Can't be 1GB, it was advertised as 4GB. I'll just return it if that's the case. Gonna find out soon from Windows.

>>57237623
>>57237736
Thanks for the tips, I'll try Crucial for the first time I guess. Any point of going 16GB? I think it supports up to 8. Just asking, don't even need it.

is the x200 the best thinkpad that has only the clit mouse?
i already have an x61, so i'm looking to get a 16:9 machine

Found the W7 .iso resource I was looking for btw

If anyone needs it:

http://mirror.corenoc.de/digitalrivercontent.net/

>>57237998
>Can't be 1GB, it was advertised as 4GB.
I'm just comparing the serial numbers, pls no bully.

>Any point of going 16GB?
memes and yes it supports 16, I'm posting from a t420 with 16gb and 3 drives right now.

>>57237998
It supports up to 16, but you dont really need that unless you are going to be using shit like cad.
Just get 8 for general purpose (even 4 would suffice, but better safe than sorry besides, shits CHEAP)

My T530 came with an empty Expresscard slot. What kind of fun stuff can I put there? And is there a place to buy placeholder cards for the slot? It's empty now and I'm worried it'll serve as an ingress port for dust and debris.

>>57238106
usb3.0 ports
external gpu setup
wlan
expresscard ssds are a thing too but rare

>>57238119
Neat. A few more usb ports certainly won't hurt. Thanks for the suggestions!

>>57237998

Go for the 16gb. I do Lightroom and Photoshop and even with layers stacked and multiple image editing programs my W7E install uses at max 10gb.

I had a 4gb kit in it originally and it would go to scratch disks after a while. With the 16gb kit I can run W7E and all my shit almost exclusively off the RAM. It's not a noticeable difference until you have a bunch programs open, with the 16gb kit the machine won't bog down.

It might be a meme but with memory prices as cheap as they are (I remember when a 1gb kit was 350 dollars)

I got a 230t without a stylus, how much do they cost and where can I find them?

>>57238463
Steal one from your school

Is it worth to use sd card on t420 as a system disk? What speed does it will have?

>>57238570
When the warlord came to my village I had to behead Dubaku to prove myself a man and worthy of the device, fearing revenge from his family I can never go back. So where else can I get one?

Just picked up an x220 off of ebay and I'm really liking it. It's a nice upgrade from my x200 which was starting to show its age. Any reccomendations as to what I should put in the express card slot? I was thinking of usb3 but I'm not entirely sure what all my options are.

>>57238463
From personal experience its better to get a proper thinkpad pen, or at least a proper thinkpad pen nib, than a chink knockoff. The real ones slide smoother on the screen and don't scratch it so easily.

>>57238758
an sd will be piss slow compared to any other drive it's able to hold and a real os would thrash the hell out of it. maybe keep an emergency install of puppy linux on it

>>57238822
Seven posts above.

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help, t450 or x220?

I there are two at a reasonably cheap price in my area and I don't know what to buy.

If this helps, I plan to upgrade the screen in the future and I want it for programming and CAD design on the go.

help me decide fast.

>>57239058
i would take the x220, personally

>>57238866
Where do I buy one?

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Is this something to be worried about?

>>57239549
Extremely common issue on the X220.

>>57224617
>having shit opinions

>>57239558
Is the whole chassis that fragile, or is it just the corners?

Any suggested fixes(besides applying putty)?

>>57239643
It's just that corner, I think. I've heard putting something in the Expresscard slot provides some increased stability, but can't attest to it personally.

>>57239697
Oh ok, I am asking because some one is offering me that x220 for $140 and it's pretty much blemish-less only that corner ruins it, but I guess if it's only that corner I should go for it.

>>57239595
>wanting more of this >>57239549
>wanting more 1366x768
>wanting more T420-tier TN panels
>wanting more keyboard flex
>wanting more 95C sperm boiling housefires
No anon, your opinions are shit.

>>57239831
what are the best thinkpads in your opinion?

>>57239887
T60, T61, and X201s would be my favorites in the 15", 14", and 12" form factors.

>>57239831
I'd take a palm rest cracking when I drop it over a gpu dying just from using it.

>>57239365
Ebay

How much speed am I losing if I go for an X201T over an X230T?

>>57239953

why 201 over 220 out of interest?

>>57240391
19 speeds

>>57240408
i'll fuck you up

>>57240426
lewd

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>>57240401
Not the regular X201, but the slim variant. It's got a 1440x900 screen, a low-voltage i7 that won't burn down the house, the keyboard is the older *60/*61/--00 style with full travel keys on the top row and better-feeling volume buttons, and you can remove the trackpad for the real patrician's Thinkpad experience. It's not as powerful or efficient as the X220, but the processor is sufficient for the simple things you'd be doing on a 12" laptop and the battery life isn't that much worse, I get seven hours on my 9cell compared to nine on the X220. The screen is also admittedly rather low-quality, not unlike the T420's, but having a usable resolution takes priority to me.

>>57240391
-20 to -30 percent loss

>>57240539
Shame about that TN panel though.

>>57240391
X230's processor is about as fast as the X260's. Keep that one in mind. (they switched to ULV after the __30 gen, which were much slower and throttle themselves down a lot more)

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>>57239887
The X62, if it were more widely available

>comfy 12"
>powerful 5th gen Intel
>great 4:3 1400x1050 screen

What's the downside??

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T420-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B00W4AMWCI I have been looking at this, is refurbished good? Thinkpad retard here

>buy first think pad
>case breaks after about a year
>screen stops functioning after months of dealing with faulty case
>buy new think pad (x131e for max durability)
>after a year case breaks
>screen stops working soon after
>buy x250
>been just under a year
>two hard drive failures in last three months
/g/ are think pads a meme?

Bought a 9 cell genuine lenovo battery but my x220 that I purchased was defective so I sat on the battery. Got a new one and the battery I kept holds no charge, it's been well over several months since I've had it in storage so I cant contact the seller. What do I do to fix it or am I fucked?

>>57218523
I came across an ideapad 11s one time
I think it had an i5 ultrabook ivy bridge cpu
luckily the thing had an ssd
I sold it to a random customer for $250
it was a decent machine, i think i sold it for too low but meh, the person never came back so i guess it was a decent little fucker

>>57219306
thats pretty dope, imo 32GB is all u need for most people who already have a desktop.

>>57219833
>decent processor
get an i7 quadcore W530?
you should post what you have that died, your budget and what you'd want the laptop to do and what you need for it to do so we can help ya a bit lad.

>>57223338
If the battery is in good health and the FHD display doesnt have a blue hue to it or vertical lines, probably is a decent deal for where you are at.

I personally bought one for $250 in the US, but had that shit display and K1000m. Sold it for $500 cash after 3 weeks.

>>57240653
i didn't even know this existed
fug, i wish i could find one

>>57240994
>x131e for max durability
You fucked up. That's the shitty netbook consumer model.

>buy x250
Your second fuckup. Starting with x240 and on the entire design has changed entirely.

>>57240905
Too expensive. You can get the same shit for half that price on ebay or craigslist.

>>57241447
>Starting with x240 and on the entire design has changed entirely.
Doesn't explain two fucking hard drive failures

>>57241822
Sure it does. It's bad design. It's bad juju.

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>>57241040

pls reply

>>57240994
X240 had a faulty hard drive design, pick it up on the corner where the hard drive is, black screen
Not sure if thats why the X250 died.

>>57239887
2 many 2 list
The enthusiasts believe the 600E/X was the greatest built thinkpad of all time. It definately was pretty moddable too, much more sturdier than the T20 that followed.
I wish I was older to witness the heyday of the TP 600, the 600X was the second iteration of frankenpadding and modding with certain Pentium III CPUs and trying to max out ram past official maximums (Just like the X61 & T50, the 701c had an upgraded motherboard from a shop in Germany that modded an AMD K6 in place of its i386).

The best budget machine is probably the T420 because of mSATA support n such.

>>57239549
get the glue

>>57238106
Probably the most handy is USB 3.0 slot, otherwise a that dell ruler expresscard placeholder is kool

>>57241898
You're fucked, why did you hesitated?
I fucked up too, I didn't get some ink in for a printer and I seemed to not get an 900p LCD to replace my T420s.

I probably going to escalate it via ebay because idk, fucking UPS ready post and giving it to USPS

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>>57241984

I didn't really check it because I didn't know about these retarded batteries were prone to situations like the one I found myself in.

I just left it in a drawer and waited for a good x220 deal. When I was finally in a position to use it I realize the product I got was fucked.

Thete goes $100 bucks. Fuck me.

I just got a pretty clean x201 tablet for free, did I do good? It didn't have a hard drive but I added one in and have it up and running. Still missing the red nub since that was missing. I even got the dock for it. I had to find a charger for it tho.

>>57220868
Buy an Atheros adapter, Intel a shit

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-tp logo inside and outside
-ibm logo inside and outside
-tp logo inside ibm logo outside
-ibm logo inside tp logo outside
why is the labeling on thinkpads so inconsistent? did this just happen because of the times at which they were produced? i've seen variance in the logos on models where nothing changed

>>57242571
It's all just a gradual shift over time for Lenovo to remove the IBM branding, but to ease into it.

>>57218165
Anyone here use their TP with a dock? I was looking at used docks and some mention a key/no key. What is that supposed to be?

Also, is it ok if I don't get one with a power adapter. I'm guessing I'll just use the one I use with my laptop.

Stuck deciding between the x220/x220t and the x230/x230t. All their prices seem very close, not sure which to choose. Is the touchscreen worth it?