/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

T420 master race

>>57286244
is it better than t430 ?
if I have x220 i5, will there be any upgrade (more than the bigger screen ?)

also, can I use my x220 ssd and ram on t420 ?

I really need bigger screen for the work I am doing, but I wonder if its going ot be AT LEAST this good if I switch to t420

I need a cheap as fuck (<£70) laptop to fuck around on and as a just in case to tide me over for a few days when this computer inevitably bites the dust int he near future

t61 or t400? (they are both 65-69 bux)

>>57286286
>also, can I use my x220 ssd and ram on t420 ?
yes there are both ddr3 (ram) and sata (hard drive)
IMO I like the t430 better because it's keyboard feels better to type on, and it is FAR faster (gpu wise) than the t420.
>>57286338
beat up x201, or maybe get one without ram then throw in your own.
Don't bother with anything older than a core i.

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>>57286162
T60 Checking in.

Found it at a Goodwill and it was only ~$20 and I put in an SSD I had laying around. Arguably the best laptop I have ever used in terms of quality and speed. I installed Funtoo on it and absolutely love it.

>pic related, my screenfetch

>>57286395
How's the screen since it's an old CCFL backlit is it showing real signs of backlight dulling?

Also does it have issues with SQUEALING when you have the backlight either up too high or too low?

>>57286379
thanks
so im on ebay now, should I get t420 i7 or t430 i5 3320m at 2.6 ghz ?

my concern is, my x220 gets up to 80 C watching HD videos (720p) it never lags or anything, but it does suffer from trivial stuff like that, it gets the work done, however I need more screen space.

so final dilemma:
>T420 i7
or
>T430 i5

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>>57286395
>1024x768
you are like a little baby

watch me

>>57286424
80c is perfectly fine
since the t420's i7 will only be a dual core you are far better off getting a t430 with an i5.

>>57286286
T430 is better in the GPU area but keep in mind the T420 still plays 10bit 1080p chinese cartoons flawlessly.
The T430 layout is shit imo but it's fixable by replacing it with a T420 keyboard and flashing firmware.

>>57286424
I'd go for the t420.

>>57286417
Haven't had any issues with either, the backlight is pretty bright and haven't had any issues with squealing. Only real downfall is the speakers on my HTC One M8 are louder and sound kinda better than this. Which isn't the end of the world. The screen resolution I was pleasantly surprised by. Although 1024x768 isn't ideal it is still completely functional and in some ways better than 16:9 (i.e for reading or word processing)

>>57286455
Thanks for replying bud I've been debating on buying one as a shitpost machine and it seems like it might be a good idea since those are my only real worries

>>57286487
I'd suggest looking at local Thrift stores in your area if possible. I could use this as a genuine work machine until my Xeon E3 1230v5 arrives for my desktop. For only $20 I couldn't be happier

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>>57286162
First for comfy X220

>>57286613
You really need to move taskbar to the side.
Vertical space is vital.

>>57286613

> i7 x220

Enjoy the house fire.

>>57286721
Naw dude, taskbar on the side it awful.
>>57286747
>implying the X220's fans cannot keep up.

>>57286790

> x220 fan

Enjoy the leaf blower

>>57287313
Well you do have a point there, it actually sounds like a leaf blower when the CPU is at full load.

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>>57286721
I thought the problem was that the taskbar is up.
Put it down

Has anyone ever played Final Fantasy XI. The first MMO by square enix?

I want to play that on a thinkpad. I hear it runs on netbooks. But I definitely want a laptop with a great keyboard, since that game was all about using the keyboard.

What would you recommend for me? say 1k budget? or cheaper.

>>57287997
W520

>>57287997
Does it need a numpad? The W700 and W701 are the only respectable non-ancient Thinkpads to have one. Price/performance suffers, but it should still be well within your budget, and these workstation models should be more than sufficiently specced to handle an old MMO. You could probably even get yourself a W700ds within $1000 and become an instant /tpg/ deity.

>>57287997
For 1k you can get a refurbished >>57288012 with maxed out specs and a 3 year warranty.

>>57288089
why the fuck would you spend 1 grand on a 5 year old laptop?
you could get a maxed out really good condition w530 for less than that.
and that would perform FAR better.

>>57288072
yes numpad is critical for the game. thank you for reminding me

>>57288012
>>57288089
ah interesting

>>57288101
yeah I'm not sure about the price my man, i just want to play alone somewhere

>>57288072
sounds cool :0 hows the battery life on these things? It is an old mmo, but they have addons and shit, I play fairly hardcore, i imagine it puts stress on the cpu if i do more things with it. However yes, still an old MMO, the only thing I read is that good GPU is not required because of it's old engine.

>>57288101
I was thinking about EU prices, you definitely won't get a maxed out W530 with great warranty for less than 1k€ where I live.
The W520 goes maxed out for >200€ less at my vendor, which drops the price to less than 1k€.

>>57288167
>hows the battery life on these things?
I don't own one so I can't testify to it personally, but it's probably not great. They're 17" behemoths with quadcore CPUs and high-end dedicated GPUs, and they're old. I wouldn't expect much more than a couple hours even out of a good 9cell.

>>57288187
>warranty
Found the problem
stop looking at refurbished computers. it's a god awful waste of money, and if the laptop has already lasted 4 or 5 years then it's not going to die any time soon

What's the best model for running OpenBSD? Preferably one that I can easily remove the wireless card, camera, and microphone.

Is the x1 yoga with OLED worth it?

>>57288350
>oled
no
Maybe in the year of ipv6, linux, and hl3's launch. But not now when power consumption is still too high.

>>57288263
>Preferably one that I can easily remove the wireless card, camera, and microphone
why not just get a desktop?

Just got a x230 i5 for $100 US, kys fagboys.

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x301
every thread until you like it

>>57289572
an* x230

>>57289608
>x301
No connection for dock
Can't even call it a thinkpad
Nice guns, though

>>57286436
>wide viewing angle
Enjoy prison, pedo

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>>57289608
Cool guns though

>>57289608
m1a is warped
take better care of your shit retard

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>buy T410
>want T60 instead
>buy T60
>want T410 instead

Save me from this hell

>>57290051
buy both

>>57290051
I don't understand, you had to sell the T* to afford the T*? Anon, get a job.

>>57290051
build T601F

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>>57290074
That'd be ideal
>>57290094
Rural Kentucky and my employer shut down. JUST

>>57289644

Lol, stfu nigger.

>>57290116
I can't even say anything mean to you. That sucks. Vote Trump

>>57287892
It would be painful to look at bottom side taskbar on a laptop.

>>57289608
Yeah, ports on the back are comfy for stationary use, but you can't *grab it by the battery* like any onther Thinkpad.

>>57290238
>*grab it by the battery*
I thought this was a meme but turned out to be pretty handy, thanks Rossmann for teaching me Thinkpad battery holding skills.

>>57290267
It was the only way to hold t-series in tablet mode and was quite common among other manufacturers of that era too.

Looking at new T460s to replace my aging Vaio. I've heard they changed the keyboard layout on the newer think pads - can anyone attest to the quality?

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Been working on getting this running today. Had to install from floppy, took forever.

Windows 95, working TCP/IP and an ethernet card for folder sharing with my Win10 PC.

I need to get a battery, and should probably use a CF card instead of the ancient HDD, but soon enough I'll be able to out-hipster the normies at Starbucks.

>>57290825
>no trackpad
I want it

>>57287313
>Enjoy the leaf blower
The ultimate weapon against canucks

>>57290267
>>57290346
Sounds unsafe as fuck, the battery isnt held on by some metal railing or anything, its plastic hooks

is repasting worth it? it's a x220 i7-2640m

>>57292151
Probably, but if you bought it refurbished it's likely repasted already.

So how to tell if the optical drive in T420 is busted or the connection is acting up?

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>Used ratiomaster on IPT
>Got flagged
>Want proof of upload speed

mothers fujitsu craptop is dying, what kind of thinkpad is good as stationary facebook/email machine? T61?

>>57293255
I'm also dyslexic

I want to get an IPS screen for my new x220.
I know I should be getting LP125WH2(SL)(B3) or
LP125WH2(SL)(T1).
Can anyone recommend a trusted cheap seller?

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I thought you guys would know about these laptops goodwill has for sale any ideas on the specs or anything the brand is Howard and i found the company but not the laptop they have no model numbers

I can get a w700ds for 200 euros, is it worth it or just a meme?

Might be able to get thinkpads from work for £50 each.

They're asking for the money to "secure wipe" and retain their 240gb ssd intact rather than shredding them.

Used. Probably 2-3 years old.
No specs aside from vague 'i7 cpu' and '4+GB ram'

Im planning on asking for 3.

Y/N?

>>57293918
source?

>>57286162
Should get an x60? I am only concerned with muh freedumbs.

>>57286162
best place to buy following laptops
TP X60/X60s
TP X60 Tablet
TP T60
TP X200
TP R400
TP T400
TP T500
Macbook 1,1
Macbook 1,2
Asus chromebook C201

>>57293918
>>57294283
He wants to steal your laptop.

Where do you guys buy refurbished thinkpad's from? The shilling here does not align with the awful reviews found on amazon etc from people who bought refurbed TPGs

>>57294504
That's fine, wouldn't really have a purpose for it anyway. I just like collecting semi-rare hardware, like this SUR40 I have sitting behind me.

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>>57286613
maximum comfy

>>57294673
How hard was it anon? I have been thinking about wrapping my T420 like that for a few months.

Should I update the BIOS of the T420 from 1.37 to the latest?

Most changes fix the SMM vuln

>>57294673
looks cute anon :3

>>57290825
Can it run Doom?

bought an x230 two months ago, the screen is IPS and is supposed to be new.

today i noticed it has a fucking image burnt in, ghost image whatever, i have a dark wallpaper and i can slightly see chrome bar with my bookmarks on top.

i dont use my laptop a lot and that surprised me.
is it common? have i got chinked with some subpar screen?

>>57294694
i took it apart, sanded and cleaned every part, then painted with white spray. As easy as disassembly as reassembly goes, but painting takes some time

X60s reporting in

>>57294390

Yes or get an X60s/x61s

>>57294917
is it burned in even after restarting the computer?

>>57294422

Ebay

>>57294917
this happened to my 32 inch ips monitor. I was playing a game and paused on a flickering image. Came back ~ 1 hr later and it had burnt into the screen and stayed there for a couple of hours.

>>57286162
I'm actually thinking of buying a thinkpad... but i have had two lenovos in the past two years and both have failed spectaculary. The Y510p i got for my dad shorted when the copper heat pipe melted and mine(Y-70) has had screws falling out of it, and the wifi card, hard drive, both memory sticks and screen have failed within a year of purchase. Im concerned how much better the QC is on the thinkpad beacause the Y series has been hot garbage.

>>57294917
ghosted image, the earliest versions of ips pannels had that feature. it's really only noticable against a darkish gray backgrounds

Aight guys, I need a cheap ThinkPad to write essays for SJW professors, study moonrunes, watch HD chinese moving images and maybe play some Age of Empires II online or maybe LoL my chink friend.
>inb4 LoL is shit
I know, it's just to socialise, cause I'm trying to get into the group for that sweet chink pussy juice.

Considering that I'm a Yuroppor, and a wog at that, and the market here is super shit:

1) Would an i5 X220 be good? Any suggestions? Budget is max 300€, but less is better.
2) Are things like this shit deals?
>http://www.ebay.it/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-Notebook-Intel-Core-i5-2x-2-5GHz-4-GB-RAM-320-GB-HDD-DVD-RW-/361775985159?hash=item543b877207:g:KI8AAOSwZJBYBg2f

Thank you in advance.

I found a t420 for about $160, has a i5 2520, 8g of ram, and a 500g ssd
>ssd
That's the part that really scares me, can some anon help?

>>57295311
It stands for Solid State Drive and can be used in placed of a HDD (Hard Disk Drive).
They are generally faster than HDDs, and also quieter due to less moving parts.

>>57295394
I was asking if you think this is bs, I know what an ssd is, it's the fact that it is hard to imagine a person selling a laptop with a big ssd in it.

>>57295428
>500g SSD in a machine already costs 160$

>>57295428
I got a 128GB Intel 530 SSD with my W520. Completely unused from what I could tell, besides to install the OS. I also got a 256GB Kingston V100 SSD with my X201s, and it died after a couple months of light usage. SSDs in used laptops are ultimately a gamble, but at $160 for a machine as well-equipped as that, you wouldn't be getting a bad deal even if it had no drive at all.

>>57295538
thanks anon

Anything similar to the x130e is that isn't a hawk of shit? Pref < $100, $150 tops.

>>57295033
>>57295139
>>57295020
turned it off for an hour, it disappeared, got spooked hard though.

is it always like this? non-permanent, disappearing after a while?
i dont have this laptop for a long time, i use it mostly for programming/matlab/internet when im away from home. today is the first time i noticed it.

>>57295428
where are you buying it from? if its too good to be true like you think all you have to do is read the description and if its not like in the description when you get it return it, no reputable distributor would accept false advertisement, plus you have like one month to test it out. you know? since laws and shit?

>>57294504
>steal
Nope. It's just that the last time a saw a W700DS on ebay it went for like 1.5k or something, so I didn't believe him and wanted to see some proof.

the i7-2670QM is the strongest cpu for t420 laptops right? im going to upgrade the laptop really soon and just wanted to know.

>>57296058
The description says it is a ssd but when you look for it with the filter, it's on the list of unknown storages

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>>57296170
you're fucked then, gonna have to gamble it.

>>57296185
I know, but, I got cash to blow on an ssd and a laptop hard drive already in another computer

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Ayyy I'm looking to mod my T440p, but i need some help.

1. Screen:
I want to upgrade my screen , I know i can get a 1080p ips , but I am wondering if there is any 4k ips (scales videos better) that will fit in my system.

2. Battery:
How do I open my battery housing without breaking it? I want to upgrade my cells.
also, does anyone know where I can get an empty 9 cell battery housing?

3. CPU:
I have a removable CPU.. Can I use the newer generation chips in it?

4. Extra slots:
My main OS is installed on a m.2 SSD, so I now have 2 extra bays I don’t really use:
1. Internal Harddrive bay
2.CD drive
What can I do with those? I don’t really need any more disk space.

>>57295538
>Kingston SSD
>Died in a few months

I'm not even surprised.

>>57294706

Yeah, it runs Doom on high details/with the screen large great. No lag. The sound works without fuckkery too, which is nice. Native res is only 640x480 so it doesn't look too shit even though it's not CRT.

Duke3D runs like a slideshow when multiple enemies are on screen. It's playable on low details with the screen small, but still not a smooth framerate. I'd say that's about its limit.

I need to get more RAM and see if that helps (I'm running 16MB currently, which is Duke3D's minimum).

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>>57286162

how, if ever, can I make a quick and simple cantenna directly connected to my x200's wifi card? I have no problem disassembling my x200, yet I don't quite clearly understand which part is the antenna itself and which is its cable - is the actual antenna just the metal shit sitting in the upper part of the lid, and the cable is just a cable?

my idea was to tear out one of the the WWAN antennas (which I'not using and never will anyway; I'd leave both inbuilt WLAN antennas intact so I can disconnect all that can porn and revert to using them), plug its cable to either of the wifi card's connectors, desolder the metal shit off its other end, solder some other shit to it and shove that shit into a can. am I anywhere close?

>>57294962
>paint
Thats gonna look like shit in a few months.

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>>57296145
pls, i read the sticky but it dint find no info on the i7 processors..

since the lenovo laptops have express card ports what add-ons do you guys think are worth it? the usb 3.0 seems trivial tbqh

>>57296145
You can go crazy up to the 55w XM processors but you'll cause WW3 by running it with the stock cooler.

I wouldn't go further than a 2720qm.

>>57296610
so the 2720 is the point of no return, thanks. ill stick to the 2670 qm since it can do photoshop well enough. thanks.

>>57296591
egpu

>>57296626
Seems like a good choice, there's a video on YouTube of a guy who installed that processor on his t420 if you want details about temperatures and whatnot.

I'm running a 2720qm on my t420 with downgraded bios to unlock 1600mhz ram.

>>57296569
depends on how good the paint is and how tidy the user

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doEZMNXz1JY Can anyone confirm that the keyboard on old thinkpads is squishy? I honestly think this guy is overreacting

>>57296681
would you buy a used i7 chip? i'm seeing a really cheap one since "new" they cost 250.

>>57296591
another NIC if you are into that stuff

>>57296809
Well i already bought an used Thinkpad and buy most of my tech as refurbished so why not.

Found the 2720 used of course for $28 so fine by me.

Which thinkpad should I buy for gaming

Hey lads I finally got my documents off the XPS

Soon

>>57296964
none

>>57296964
Thinkpads are business laptops, not gaming laptops go here: https://laptopscribes.com/

>>57294673
>keyboard and input device still stock color
You need to try harder

>>57296964
>>>/v/

>>57296964
i don't think you should buy a thinkpad/laptop for gaming. i mean Photoshop and video editing is one thing it can do but gaming wont cut it unless you want to just play emulators and only up to ps1. talk to /v/ or the desktop thread.

>>57296964
t420 because 420blaze it lmao get it

Is there a swivel joint I can install in an x220t for both directions?

>>57296813
why would you get more Ethernet ports in a laptop?

I was thinking of getting a laptop for watching movies and other general use. I'm not worried about gaming since ive already got a decent PC. Should I look into a t420 or an x220 with an IPS display?

Is this screen IPS?
http://m.ebay.com/itm/New-LG-Philips-LP125WH2-SL-T1-Laptop-Screen-12-5-LED-BACKLIT-HD-Compatible-/380919296034

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Do you use SSD or HDD?

Is a T430 i5-3320M, 180gb SSD, 4gb RAM a good deal? Thanks.

>>57297418
For 214€. Sorry I'm retarded.

>>57297386
SSD + HDD + HDD

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>>57297201
MITM diagnostics for example, or a way over powered firewall box with built in ups

>>57297386
ssd windows, ssd linux, hdd mangos and anime

I ordered a T430 w/ SSD, I know thinkpads aren't for gaming but how well will intel HD graphics 4000 do (with 8GB ram)?

>>57297500
It will be miserable for gaming desu senpai

>>57297500
shite

but you can transform a thinkpad into a gaymen setup with an egpu

>>57297518
>>57297543
forgot to mention I don't plan on playing the newest AAA titles but older games are fine by me too

>>57297386
ssd
msata is dirt cheap

anyone know a good place to get replacement batteries for a T61? I bought one off ebay, that REPORTS its a 4600mah in the windows power results(Can faked batteries spoof those tests too?), but it only manages to give me ~70 minutes.

>>57297716
it's probably not spoofing anything
there's a difference between cell quality and capacity

>>57297735
huh... Well, any recommendations for a place to buy a replacement? I paid $30 for that one, but was refunded after raising hell on ebay.

Was hoping to get the battery AND the T9300 for around $50 total(anything more than that, and its not really worth the upgrade, right? A cheap used i5 thinkpad would run $150 and beat the shit out of a maxed T61)

>>57297716
Monitor the usage with BatteryMon while using it and look if there's any random sharp decline in "time remaining on battery".

>Can faked batteries spoof those tests too
If it's a smart battery yes, you can check and restore the original firmware with the lenovo battery firmware utility.

>>57286162
I need answers please.
I found this: ebay.com/itm/IBM-ThinkPad-X60-12-1-55-GB-Intel-Core-Duo-1-8-GHz-3-Notebook-Tablet-/222265789169

and this:
ebay.com/itm/8-Cell-14-4V-Laptop-Battery-for-LENOVO-IBM-thinkpad-X60-X61-FRU-42T5206-40Y8318-/181764391831

and this: https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Lenovo-Thinkpad-Battery-Charger/dp/B004EDIO84

all this is LIBREBOOT compatible correct?This all goes together right? and none of this is a scam? should I buy this?

>>57297770
They're unofficial batteries. You know, the kind you see on ebay for $30...

The reporting time is actually pretty consistent. From 100%, when i first unplug, it says theres only ~1:20 minutes left. Obviously thats not what a 100% official lenovo battery gave when it was new[supposedly it was ~6 hours].

I'm really not sure what to do with this, cause the numbers *seem* to all make sense except the estimated time left on battery power. It *should* be a lot more than 1:20 when at 100%. I mean its literally only had 3 or 4 cycles put through to 'calibrate' it.(charged overnight, full discharged to 2%, fully charged again, discharged again.... Each time only giving ~80 minutes)

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>>57296964
If you need a system with a lot of horsepower, you should check out clevo. (keep in mind, i have never owned one, but they are fairly well known.)

>solid build quality
>excellent heatsinks
>removable / upgradable CPU and GPU
>full desktop CPU
>looks pretty good

>>57297920
>CPU is not delid

>>57286395
Fellow T60 anon here.

Fucking love this thing. 4:3 for life. Been using it as a main PC for about 2 years now.

It's insane how capable this 10 year old machine still is.

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>>57296964
t430 with quad core cpu and nvidia gpu

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>office t430 getting decommissioned
>I can keep it for $100

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>>57297920
>>57297920
I have two clevos, gpus aren not removable (maybe only in some gaymur model)
Build quality is ok but it varies because they are usuassly assembled by local companies(one of my clevos, "business notebook" has terrible light bleed
Also pic related its the same business model, hinges are ok but the part that conncets hinge to the lid has cracked, also lid is made of two sheets of plastic on top of each other and it started separating (see pic)(maybe its just this particular model thats abit shit) because the other one works perfectly and no cracks

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>>57298021
How old are your systems? I heard their older models had a lot of quality control issues , and even over heating problems . Everything I have heard about the newer one has been pretty good. They look like they are way bigger and better built.

>>57297865
ANSWER ME
ANSWER ME
ANSWER ME
ANSWER ME

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closer look at the chip-set.

>>57298021
see, this one has a removable gpu.

>>57298089
Are you too stupid to look up at libreboot wiki and pick the best cpu model you can?

>>57298089
Pls?....

>>57298077
The one in my pic with cracked lid is w550su. I guess its about 2 years old
Dont know the model of other one but it has gtx850m in it (also 2 years old)

>>57298106
I can't access the libreboot wiki. I don't know why.

>>57298097
>cpu is not delid
INTO THE GARBAGE BIN IT WALKS IN

>>57298132
You are already being MITMd and have planted malware on your bios.

>>57297950
>>57298097
>>57298134
I guess you could delid if you really wanted to. I always heard it didn't make that big of a deal , an it is just a meme.

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>>57298097
Mine is integrated into the board (cpu is removable though)

>>57286162
HELP LADS
What Thinkpad working stations are good? Is W530 decent?

>>57298187
Old Intel Mac Pros even had a delid cpus.
It's not that hard to request a supply of delid cpus directly from Intel if you are this kind of manufacturer, I think.

t460s for 800 bucks + ssd and ram upgrade yay or nay?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-ThinkPad-X60-12-1-55-GB-Intel-Core-Duo-1-8-GHz-3-Notebook-Tablet-/222265789169

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-ThinkPad-X60-12-1-55-GB-Intel-Core-Duo-1-8-GHz-3-Notebook-Tablet-/222265789169

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-ThinkPad-X60-12-1-55-GB-Intel-Core-Duo-1-8-GHz-3-Notebook-Tablet-/222265789169

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-ThinkPad-X60-12-1-55-GB-Intel-Core-Duo-1-8-GHz-3-Notebook-Tablet-/222265789169

can someone please just tell me if this is compatible with libreboot?

X220 or X230?

>>57298292
x230 with the x220 if you like the keyboard, other than that depends

>>57298288
Nyet

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SUP /tpg/ a roommate of mine is going to a technology kind of meet up soon. I've been told in the past people sell thinkpads cheap there. I only have like a 100USD to put towards a thinkpad at the time. I already have a R61 and I would like to upgrade. What models (other the the mempad 420 and a x220 which probably be out of my price) should I have him look for? I read from the buyers guide either an X200(201), T400(401,500,or 501), or a X61. Which would you suggest, eventually I plan on getting the Memepad 420 so I can watch my 10bit 1080 chinese cartoons.

>>57298292
x230 for the hd4000

>>57298307
Nyet? Does that mean "not yet"?

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>>57297993
>45w tdp cpu
>sharing the heatsink with the dgpu
>throttling machine dumbed down by running spyware 10
for what purpose

>>57298222
pls respond ~anonkuns ;_;

>>57297376
Can't ask this seller a question so I don't know if it is safe.
Please help

>>57298332
it means "no" in Russian

>>57298412
look it up in thinkwiki and see if the specs are good enough for you?

>>57298419
panelook.com/LP125WH2-SLT1_LG Display_12.5_LCM_overview_17664.html

>>57298432
oh. dangit.

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Is this normal for a t410?

>>57298404
>45W TDP
So? You do realize 10W is actually iGPU and the other 35W is the wost case scenario with 100% usage of every single internal component, including all pcie lines?
Actually after disabling turbo OR disabling hyperthreading it can work just fine with overclocked nvidia gpu. The only problem is throttling when gayming in the docking station... but this also applies to dual-core models.

when i boot my X230 (windows 7) i have no sound. i close the lid and open it again, sound works.
why is that? any ideas?

also for some reason my wireless mouse stopped working on right USB ports. they read pendrives and all that but mouse works only on the left USB port now.

>>57298453
>7W TDP PCH

>>57298453
>So? You do realize 10W is actually iGPU and the other 35W is the wost case scenario with 100% usage of every single internal component, including all pcie lines?
Not him but try stressing the cpu with something like cpu-z while monitoring the wattage, it'll max even if the igpu is disabled and some pcie lanes unused.

>Actually after disabling turbo OR disabling hyperthreading
Why the hell would you upgrade the cpu and then gimping it by limiting its capabilities?

>>57298550
>Why the hell would you upgrade the cpu and then gimping it by limiting its capabilities?
Because it's still way faster than the highest available dual-core model on this platform?

>>57298439
On idle? Not really.

>>57298436
Thanks. I know that it is supposed to be an IPS screen, but I am unsure because I saw this listing of the same model:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-5-LED-LCD-Screen-LP125WH2-SLT1-For-Lenovo-Display-LP125WH2-SL-T1-Not-iPS-/391476153191
That says "Not IPS" and I'm not sure what that means.

>>57298602
Buy it and then ask for a refund because you got an IPS screen but the seller said it wasn't IPS :^)

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>ThinkPad L 540

Without knowing anything about the Thinkpad obsession of /g/ I bought this like 2 years ago for uniwork... Did I do good?

>>57298756
>L
no

>>57298756
>50Hz

Do you guys have any idea what Lenovo will be doing for the T and P line come next year?

Also still waiting for Retro news.

>>57298795
wtf how did I miss that

So I got my T420 with only 120GB ssd. Any reason they'd take out the 160gb hdd and place only the ssd? I paid extra money for the upgrade.

>>57299408
>I paid extra money for the upgrade
why

i'd rather have it without a drive and get/install an ssd myself

Best price/performance mSATA SSD for the X220?

>>57299573
kingdian m280

t420s upgrade to t430s y/n?

>>57299673
>t430s
no
>t430
yes

>>57299673
+ better gpu
- worse keyboard layout
you tell me

T430 (i5-3320M, 128gb SSD) for 209€ or X230 (i5-3320M, 128gb SSD) for 199€?

The seller also says that if I add 20€ to the T430 he bumps the RAM from 4gb to 8gb.

>>57299815
I'd say yes just for the improved battery time and gpu. Keyboard can't be that bad and afaik can be replaced with the t420 keyboard if needed.

>>57299752
I don't see why when you have a good desktop, size and weight matter more. Okay, the battery time is (a lot) worse but that's it mostly.

T92 WHEN?

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>>57299853
X230 because comfy, unless you need a bigger resolution of course.

>>57299875
here

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>>57298550
>tfw your thinkpad will never be as fast as mine

>>57289902
It's an SKS, try again
>>57289709
>>57289856
Truly the Achilles heel
There need to be more 13" X series
Also thanks for the raifu compliments

>>57299908
Is the resolution the only difference?
Is it actually possible to play (older low spec) games on the x230?

>>57300469
And size of course. You're going to be limited to what the hd4000 runs which isn't bad.

>>57300616
>hd4000
Yeah I'm not gonna play anything fancy. Things like running the ePSXe emulator.
Oh, another thing. Do the X230 all come with the IPS display or do I have to search for one with it? Is it way better than the TN? Thank you.

>>57300694
You need to either search for one with it or get the screen separately and upgrade it yourself.

It is.

Yo, fellow T430 user here. I want get Ubuntu to work on my machine but I've always heard how Lenovo doesn't care about Linux and Windows is getting errors after Linux is installed.
The thing is, I want Ubuntu to use a partition so I can still use Windows. Has anybody experience? I am afraid.

>>57300742
Thank you man. I think I gonna get the X230 then. And I'll upgrade it later. Last thing if you'll still around:

*i5-3320M
*4GB RAM
*128GB SSD
-almost dead battery

Is 199€ too much? Considering I'll probably change the battery.

>>57300786
Does your T430 have Optimus?
My non-NVIDIA T430 runs ubuntu and Debian fine without serious issues(only APS is not working but I use an SSD)

>>57297386
HDD. I would go SSD, but I would have to buy it and then reinstall all my apps and shit...I don't think it'd be worth the trouble of booting 10 sec faster

>>57297716

the chinks can fake anything.

>>57301012
My T430 doesn't have that. It's powered by Intel.
I really want to run Windwos and Ubuntu in seperate partitions and I don't think it's exactly about performance what lets you run Linux just fine. I heard from someone that upon installing Linux on a partition deleted important Windows components so he had to use Linux for a long time. I don't really think running Optimus solves anything.

>>57301106
Generally, Optimus laptops require some special work to make them work within Linux. This is not the issue with Intel, they just work.
You should have no problem with dual booting wangblows and loonix. I have Windows 10 and Debian Testing in my T430 with UEFI boot and everything works perfectly.
Thinkpads are different than the rest of Lenovo laptops.

>inb4 windows 10
>inb4 botnet
>inb4 debian
>inb4 not using <insert autist distro here>

>>57286162
I'm looking at a t61 for 78 bucks on Craigslist
Is that a good price?

>>57301317
And also looking at an x230 for 150 now thats a good deal.
Hopefully offlease.
My dad needs a laptop because his toshiba is a piece of crap. I'd like to get him a memepad with an ssd so he can do dad things like facebook and sorting his 60 petabytes of pictures.

>>57301008
Dunno, I'm not from Europe or the US.

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>IPS Screen
should I keep bidding?

>>57301272
Thanks for answering and clearing things up. Now I can install in peace.

>>57290186
Nothing can bring jobs to areas which offer nothing to employers. Move to where the jobs are or get skilled in something that pays.

Truckerfag over on /o/ has real world info on the trucking world and is a pretty cool guy.

Trump can't fix geographic isolation. The US is huge and can't have jerbs everywhere.

>>57293272
T61 with Intel GPU are dirt cheap and reliable. See tabook and lurk Thinkpad forums for much info.

>>57294251
Sounds painless. Hard to lose at that price with an SSD.

>>57294627
I don't. I buy them off Ebay without hard drives then toss in whatever I want. There isn't shit to "refurb" except perhaps repasting. They are so easy to work on that there's no point in paying someone else.

Anyone got a t420 config for xbindkeys? Wanted to see what some other users config looks like or if someone configured it with most useful keys. Using arch + i3.

>>57296544
>how, if ever, can I make a quick and simple cantenna directly connected to my x200's wifi card?

Waste of time and effort. Get cheap USB wifi dongle with good ratings and a suitable cable instead.

i know one or two of you dorks were fighting over that cheapo x220. my snipe-fu was stronger

>>57297500
My x230 with 8gb Ram dual slot could play cs:go and mc.

does anyone have the "wow dude thats a thinkpad" copypasta?
post it pls

Just got a ssd and hdd for my T420. Together with my dock and external monitor it's quite a comfy setup.

What other things have you done to enhance your thinkpad experience?

Talk me out of a t410 for 50 bucks that Im going to stuff an SSD into

>>57303220
quad core cpu + ssd/2hdds + egpu

Can't wait for RMSMajestic to sell again the t420 1080p kit, will buy it asap.

>>57301008

I got mine with same specs for $100 US last night, if you pay more than 150, you are beta as cuck.

>>57301448


LMAO i paid $145 for the same, you fagboys are beta as fuck desu.

God damn. They put the 6 row laptop keyboard on the P series as well?

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Looking for a replacement for my old asus netbook and I'm looking at used thinkpads. I'm willing to spend about 200-250 for a used one, but I want an opinion on what model to get.
I'm looking at a t420 or x220 thanks to the memes, I'd probably put in more ram but that would be later. Would these be good choices or is there a better option for the price?

>>57302173

x220 is shit, i only bought one to rip off the keyboard to install in my x230. that shitpad is going straight in the trash after.

How can people even use a sandy bridge and hd3000 baka, you negus are faggots.

>>57303460

Get a x230 if you want a actual usable laptop, x220 is autism.

>>57303481
Depends on your workload, I guess. Most demanding thing I do on mine is watch chinese cartoons. Never noticed any particularly bad performance compared to my desktop doing the same things.

>>57303510
Power draw -> battery life

>>57303510

1080p youtube in chromium + x220 = hairdryer

Same thing on a x230 ? silence.

>>57303460
Same guy, just found a x220 for $190. Is the x220 really meme tier or am I being memed?

>>57303540

$190 x220 hahahaahahahahahahahaah KYS

i got a x230 for 100 bucks LMAO.

These laptops are getting thrownaway like trash, just go look for the right chance m8.

>>57303481
Were you able to get the keyboard working fully?

>>57303570

Flashed the EC mod, took 5 minutes, everything just fucking WERKS, all the function keys and the dank memes.

>>57303591
I'm in the market for something new and am quite interested in this now. Do you know if keyboard replacements are possible for more newer T line thinkpads? I know performance probably didn't increase too much over the last few generations but I've heard that battery life has improved.

you fucking niggers need to stop shilling the x220, ITS FUCKING DEAD, it might be a good laptop 4 years ago, but in 2016 ? its a fucking joke. heavy as a fucking brick with the 9cell( which is basically a requirement since the sandy bridge is about power efficient as a fucking bread toaster)

Oh that "legendary" keyboard ? FUCKING AUTISM

>>57303661

How new ? T430 ? T450 ?

>drilled a couple of holes under the fan on my t420
>never reaches 90c even on stress test
>with a quad core
what the blyat is this magic

might be the repasting though but still

>>57303730

>repasting sandybridge.

might as well get a real processor.

just bought a t61 (should be non nvidia variation) for 50 bux

looks fine and comes with a working battery and original charger

Hoping it's not a problematic piece of shit! my biggest worry is the screen is gonna be a dim cunt but the pictures make it look pretty decent

Go back to bed, Ivy Bridge shill. Nobody gives a fuck about your autism.

>>57303727
Seems T430 works according to >>57303591 So I'm curious about T440 and above.

>>57303803
It doesn't work with T440 and onwards due to the removal of the dedicated volume controls. There's no mod that can fix this, it's an electrical incompatibility.

>>57303711
>>57303764
(You)

>>57303803

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads

xx40 and newer has a different keyboard connector, so you are SOL on that.

>>57303797

Go back to watching your weeb shit on that sandybridge memepad

>>57303844
>>57303822
Lenovo, pls. And I assume they don't make classic keyboard replacements for their new thinkpads as well. Feels bad

>>57303895

might be possible to use the meme keyboard with some hardware mods, like hooking up the keyboard to a teensy and wire that shit up to a usb port internally, but i don't have autism(yet).

>>57303895
>>57303920
I'm keeping my hopes up for the Retro.

>>57303980

me too, i hope i am alive to see that glorious day.
Halflife 3 on the thinkpad retro.

>>57303996
>"retro"
>screen won't even be ccfl backlit for maximum comfort

Reminder lenovo have some of the worst backlighting of all laptops since they went LED.

Shit RAPES my eyes it gets uncomfortable as fuck. If you are sensitive to this sit you are screwed with Lenovo.

Lenovo suck at screens in general though look at all the issues they had in recent years with their lower line of ideapads and shit having fucked up screens with gradient banding making them useless for most media unless you want to deal with shit looking 8 bit and their response after a pretty big backlash from consumers?

"just tilt your screen that will fix this hardware tier issue you will still see at any angle lol"

Hello guys, I just got a Thinkpad T400. Though I am now having a major problem, which is that the wireless is shit. Just to connect I have to face the laptop a certain way and even that doesn't work sometimes. Is there anything I can do about it other than buy an external wifi card? And, if I must buy one, does anyone here know of one with a good range that will fit with the laptop's verticle USB's?

>>57304095

>buys a 8 years old laptop
>complains about bad wifi

get real, what do you expect ?

>>57304111
I have some laptops from 2006 and 7 that have fine wifi

Depends on the range and where he is though I guess I'm talking "I'm fine on a 2006 laptop about 50 feet from and through some walls and upstairs with no drops or real issues"

Maybe his router is shit too, maybe the card is fucking up in his thinkpad

>>57304111
Dude, I have an old PSP and it can connect fine to my WiFi perfectly from my room, even used to stream 720p video. This Thinkpad wifi is shit. I had my laptop on the floor right next to my router and got 200 kb/s on pacman.

>>57304060
>ccfl
Hah, this is one place I'm happy they're upgrading. I'll take oled any day of the week.

>>57304172

OLED forever yeah of course as long as they circumvent the burn in using pixel shifting or something

I'm talking about their LED backlighting. It's god awful.

Just won an auction on eBay for a T400s for $35

Did I do good /tpg/ ?

>>57304111
My 2004 DS has some fine wifi range up to this day

Can someone please help answer my question about the wireless? If I can't find a solution, I'll probably drop another few hundred on a newer one AGAIN. Honestly I'm starting to really feel like used thinkpad is just a meme.

>>57304277
for $35 not bad
just know that it's an slow ass computer as soon as you put any power saving settings on
>>57304327
it helps if you actually ask them
Just know that wifi in any laptop other than macbooks is dogshit slow.
I've only found desktop wireless cards can compete. not win, just compete.

any /tpg/ verified refurb vendors?
Looking for a t420 or x220 and don't want to end up with shit.

>>57304453
Well I've used two other laptops in this room and both of them work (Lenovo B560 and some shitty Gateway) for streaming 720p video. But this laptop, if I can even get it to connect, will take 30 seconds to load about 2 or 3 seconds of a 144p video.
I'll probably liquidate the Thinkpad and just buy a better laptop, most likely an XPS or something. I'm done with these shitty things. Honestly before I was thinking about getting a newer one to see if it fixes this problem but I really do think that it doesn't matter what thinkpad I get, they'll all be shit.

>>57304482
In the US any decent looking eBay vendor should be fine.

>>57304482

>Looking for x220
>don't want to end up with shit

What else do you expect to end up with ?

>>57304495
>the wireless card is giving me problems
>better buy a whole new laptop and throw this otherwise perfectly functional unit in the trash
Thinkpads aren't shit, you're just a fucking idiot.

>>57304550
what's wrong with the x220?

Sent from my X220.

>>57304604

its a hunk of shit

Sent from my X230 with classic keyboard.

>>57304327
this one >>57304095? could be an issue with the antenna, check if it is connected properly and that the cable hasn't snapped in two near the hinge area

>>57304576
It could not be the wireless card. I have doubts that it is the wireless card. I think it is the antennas. That's the reason I am going to buy a new laptop. But for arguments' sake let's just assume that the card is the problem. It's not like I can get a better one because I've already done research on this subject and everyone says that all of the wireless cards you can get on this laptop have similar performance. I could not get any better ones because of the BIOS lock that only lets you use certain chips.
Now, let me tell you why I think it's the antennas: I am about fifty feet away, trying to connect through 1 wall. I should be perfectly able to do that. As I said before, I have a 2004 PSP that can do it. Even when I get right next to the access point, I only get about 200-400 kb/s down, whereas the desktop in my room gets 2 mb/s down. Something is wrong here if I can't get good speeds right in front of the router. This really seems like a problem with the antennas and not with the card. So yeah, I do think I need to buy a new laptop.

>>57304604
ignore him he wants (You)s

>>57304689
I'm going to open her up tomorrow and give it a look. Hopefully I don't damage the screen or anything like that.

>>57304699
I'm posting on a T601F with the stock T61 wireless card with the router as far away as possible and have never had any problems. Your card is fucked, replace it for $15 instead of dropping $1500 on a whole new machine.

>>57304711
lol I'm genuinely curious, I haven't had any issue with this laptop

if I wanted (You)s, I would have said some next level inflammatory shit like Thinkpads are shit go buy Dell or something

>>57304745
Are you SURE it's the card? Like I said, I am going to double check those wireless antenna cords, make sure they aren't severed, make sure they're properly screwed in, etc. If they look fine, should I just assume that they are and get a new pci wireless card, or should I replace both for good measure?

>>57304772
People ignore obvious trolling for the most part.

Why do people shill the x220 soo hard ? do you people not care that that homeless guy on the street has a better laptop than your old ass thinkpad ?

>>57290825
You should try installing some old versian of Debian on it, I bet it'll mostly just werk.

>>57304982
>sandybridge
>old
18+.

what's the most rugged thinkpad right now?

>>57303730
>drilled
wait what

>>57306405
He probably made some holes in the magnesium on the bottom for muh air flow.

>>57306405
speed holes

How hot does the W520 with quadcore and K2000M get? I don't want a laptop that shuts down because it overheated

Should i buy an X220 or T420?
Which one is better laptop?

I'm seriously in need of a new laptop. Not sure what to get yet though. Im ready to make a relatively large investment.

When will the x1 carbon be updated again? I'm hoping for thunderbolt in the next iteration.

>>57307382
Aren't they pretty much exactly the same except for the screen/chassis size? I have the x220 and am pretty happy with it.

>>57288263
>OpenBSD
My comrade
You can rip the wireless card and suka mikrofon out of the X60 really easily, maybe the T60 as well.
https://libreboot.org/docs/hardware/t60_security.html
https://libreboot.org/docs/hardware/x60_security.html
As for OpenBSD be wary that its power consumption is worse than Linux, and Linux's power consumption in turn worse than Windows. It eats through battery like a bad bastard. sndio, pdksh, softraid crypto GOAT though.
Ruthless shilling of the article I practically wrote the whole of myself:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/OpenBSD

>>57297865
>>57298288
Yes.
https://libreboot.org/docs/hcl/#supported_x60t_list

What's the 411 on screen replacements for the T420 nowadays? Thinkwiki seems to be kind of outdated on that regard.

Is there anywhere where I can find Core 2 Duo T60s?

Do I need 8 GiB of RAM on my x220?

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Ok, /g/, I have what is probably a simple problem. I recently upgraded to an SSD and performed a clean install of Windows 10 on my x220t. Upon getting set up, I have discovered that my pen works fine with the screen but inputs from my fingers are no longer being read.

I have verified that all of the drivers that I have are enabled and up to date; I've tried some of Lenovo's detect and update services and nothing has been detected; and I've tried some of those shitty 3rd party driver detectors and didn't find anything. From Google, it seems as though I'm missing these drivers:
>Virtual Touch Interface
>Virtual Touch Driver
But I'm not sure if they're needed. I do have the message shown in the status of my hidden touch screen drivers.

Has anybody dealt with this before? pic related

>>57303490
reason?

Lads redpill me on ram in notebooks pls!

I have a meme ThinkPad L540 which came with 6gb ram (2 slots 2gb + 4gb). Is this okay? Usually ram kits are always equal I thought?

If I want to upgrade this should I replace the current 2gb with equal 4gb to overall 8gb or could I add a 8gb instead of the 2gb for overall 12gb?
I'm confused pls send help

>>57308887
pls respond ~anonkuns ;_;

guys is an x201 good for hackintoshing? i can score one cheap, and would like to have something i could confuse people with.


>>57294673
IMPERIAL STORMTROOPER/10

WOULD CRUSH THE REBELLION WITH.

now i want to get mine hydrodipped.

>>57308887
its not optimal but it works
generally, two of the same 4GB will work better.
Telling from your question I doubt that you are doing tasks that require more than 8GB anyway.

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This just came in the door 50 minutes ago. I'm still a bit shocked about how inexpensive this machine was...

Thoughts? It's the first high end machine I've ever had. Previous was a meme-tier Lenovo Z50-70, with an SSD equipped.

This is a Lenovo W541, please so far.

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>>57308498
Ok so Wacom's drivers for the pen were the root of the issue. I uninstalled that and everything is 100%.

>>57309508
How much did you pay?

>>57309668
550$

>>57309723
With that price is came with a dock, 2 chargers, and a colorimeter equipped.

What's a good price for an X220 with SSD + HDD, 8GB of RAM and an i7?

Found one on eBay without an OS but in decent condition for 270 quid but the accept offers.

FUCK I fixed the WiFi problem I was talking about earlier in the thread. I feel stupid now. If anyone else has the problems I did, try disabling IPv6 in the DHCPCD config file (/etc/dhcpcd.conf) And this fixed the issue. Now I can connect from everywhere in my house and get 1mB/s down.

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>>57310346
If you're only getting 1mB then something is seriously wrong

>>57309723
So whats the catch here?