/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Yep this is the previous thread alright

What linux distro should I use to be able to impress my normie friends, but still use to learn programming etc? Only looked at Ubuntu before

How do I make the best of built in encryption tools?

>>57042142
Goddamn that's an old gif

>>57042277
Also. My stepdad is starting school now, got him a crap laptop and he got windows 10.
Should I install Linux on the computer for him? He needs it for school.
What are the must have programs on a freshly installed Lonix machine for a normie user?

>>57042277
>>57042299

Every distribution can be used for programming. Impressing friends is a ridiculous concept which doesn't deserve an answer. You didn't specify which school and your question is highly subjective.

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Is there a good expansive mpv ricing guide?
bomi is a buggy piece of trash and I want to achieve comfiness of bomi in mpv: sane on screen controls, some keyboard shortcuts for controlling brightness and stuff, etc.

>inb4 man mpv or git clone mpv
no

>>57042277
You should install apartheid, it would impress your friends I'm sure

Does Loonix have anything similar to Windirstat?

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>install gtk 3.22
>themes still work

post meme code you feel for, but now you know it better.

meme:
scrot '%Y-%m-%d_$wx$h.png' -e 'mv $f ~/shots/'
better:
scrot ~/shots/'%Y-%m-%d_$wx$h.png'

>>57042388

https://github.com/shundhammer/qdirstat

>>57042344

It plays back videos. Only a retard would "rice" a program whose interface you barely see.

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>>57042395
meme

scrot ~/shots/'%Y-%m-%d_$wx$h.png'

better:
import -window root ~/scrots/$(date +%Y-%m-%d_%H:%M:%S).png

>>57042388
You don't need a cleaner tool if you are not using shitty fragmanted file system

>>57042404
>Only a retard would "rice" a program whose interface you barely see.
Only a retard wouldn't know that "rice" is a meme that means "to configure something". I even put some examples, and your stupid ass still didn't get it.

>>57042395
I guess the most common newcomer fail is UUOC aka Useless Use Of Cat.

Things like:

cat file | grep faggot

can be shortened to:

grep faggot file

My 2¢.

>>57042388
There's at least xdu, I think.

>>57042409
Windirstart isn't a cleaning utility.

>>57042277
Any distro with kde plasma. Just turn on all this fancy effects and you'll be a koolest kid in the class.
In addition you can open konsole and type htop to pretend being super 1337 H4X0R.

Anyone wanna do my Linux homework?

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>>57042142
hi
i'm just an idiot who found a laptop in a parts bin
with the help of tpg i got arch linux running on it, now i'd like to get some shit working on here

can anyone help me get a working ncmpcpp and explain how i change terminal colors?

>>57042322
Alarm technician. He will mostly use it for writing and browsing, he has 3 kids that may want to play some game sometime. Which could be a reason to dualboot.

I was just kidding about the impressing friends. But I want it to have that lonix sexy smoothlooking sheit. Like Ubuntu, it's kinda sexy. However, is Ubuntu Amazon botnet?

>>57042495
Me.

>>57042502
>arch linux
WHEN WILL THIS MEME END
WHY DIDNT YOU INSTALL GENTOO INSTEAD

>>57042409
It's not a cleaning tool, it's an overview on what's taking up space on your hard drive

Let's say I wanted to get notifications for new emails, with or without a desktop client. Something that would notify me even without having a mail client running on the background.

Does thunderbird on ubuntu do this?

>>57042553
i just did what i was told, pls no bully
is it better? right now it's fairly ok

>>57042142
>>57042287
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqApb5YT-GM

>>57042611
I wish'd you'd use a tripcode so I could filter your fedora.

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>>57042142

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>>57042670

Can iwconfig do the same like:
sudo ifconfig wlan0 down
?

Why can't I make a proper debian live usb? Every other distro works just fine, but debian just will not boot. Do they have some sort of alternate system? The live usb has an exe file on it, but it seems to be only an installer. Using rufus, by the way.

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My friend who took a cybesecurity course said they used ubuntu. I have never used Linux before so would this be a good starter? Also asking since i plan on pursuing a career in it. So i wanna get a head start on stuff.

I just installed screenfetch without root in the terminal. Is this a bug? I am using fedora.

>>57043073
>$ dnf install screenfetch
>Error: This command has to be run under the root user.

I would say yes

>>57043122
This was what I did:
>Screenfetch
Then press y to the prompts for installation

>>57043150
where you already sudo'd or su'd?

Nope definitely not sudo'd

>>57043073

Something is telling me you downloaded a script which in return downloaded the screenfetch bash script, put it in a directory in your home directory that's in your PATH (or added that directory to your PATH).
You did NOT install screenfetch as a proper package.

Which distro has the best driver support ootb?

>>57043250
my one

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I have been running Ubuntu 15.10 because I can't get my resolution (2560x1080) to work on Ubuntu 16.04.
I already tried adding it manually, but every time I try to use 60Hz as the refresh rate, the screen just flickers and I have to reboot it manually. When using proprietary drivers on Ubuntu 15.10, the resolution (2560x1080) works just fine with 60Hz.
What am I doing wrong?
Picture related, xrandr output.

>>57043248
That makes sense. How do I check if this is the case? Do I look for a directory in home?

>>57043271
Thanks, very helpful

>>57043351
np

>>57042142
Sorry for off topic, but damn. This is one of the first gifs I saw ever. Or may even have been my dad downloaded a video of it.
I also remember one with a monkey itching his butt and then smelling his finger.

Man, the internet has gone to shit....

>>57043403
blog somewhere else you fucking retard
no one gives a shit about ur fucking opinion

>>57043412
Yet there you are replying..

dont reply to me nigger

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>>57042700
sup

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>>57043403
>geocities
>beepworld
>big.tits.scene.01.avi.exe
>under construction
>4chan w/o captcha

>>57043412
kill yourself newfag

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hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly disto for trans women?

>>57043527
You could like neocities for nostalgia reasons.

>>57043578
Suicide. You fucking disgusting, repulsive shell of a human.

>>57043578
I believe debian has you covered there.

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Why is nobody using bunsenlabs? Just discovered it tonight; it's the follow-up of Crunch Bang (including the great community), provides a nicely riced setup of Debian which "Just werks™".

Lurking their repos, there isn't much stuff changed, just some configs and some added python scripts to improve the openbox experience - and the "just install openbox + tint2" meme which worked for Crunchbang works also for Bunselabs, but why is this cool? Because you get a straight and lightweight Debian, not some frankenstein crap like Mint etc, and you're free to change the repos to vanilla debian at any time without any issues.

Anyone got bad experiences with it? If not, I think it's a good alternative to Ubanto and Mint.

>>57043578
Pre-op or post-op?

>>57043335

which screenfetch

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>>57043578
You know what to do. Additionally: Learn python.

>>57043403

>internet has gone to shit
>has still access to the same GIF from before and a trillion of other GIFs

kill yourself

>>57043704

Because people know how to install Openbox, tint2 and themes themselves.

>>57043749
Hey right bro. The once cool internet transformed into a phone-optimized, bloated pile of spying bullshit, which is only jimmies free accessable with a shitload of programs and addons to silence the bullshit at least a little bit and then everything you get is normalfag optimized, murican censored crap.

>>57043325
Please someone respond.

>>57043325
hi

>>57043325
Ayy, I remeber that issue. The problem is you only set it up ONCE and then forget how it works.

I suggest reading the xrandr manpage and lurk the archwiki. If I remeber correctly, you need to define a new resolution mode and then set it with xrandr.

Doesn't Ubunut provide a gui solution? Did you try searching for "display" in the dash?

>>57043325
http://askubuntu.com/questions/377937/how-to-set-a-custom-resolution

>>57043325
>>57043829

>read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
>create xorg conf file or execute the commands after startup like a pleb
>enjoy your new resolution

>>57043527
>.avi.exe
>my opinions
nice memes kiddo

kill yourself

I need help once again.

the outpuut of locale -a is:

locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory

Whats going on ?

>>57043909
>>57043881
>>57043858
not him but I'm wondering why Ubuntu, the defacto babby distro doesn't cover up the most common resolutions by default

it's not like that it's much work to add some presettings to the xorg config...
>>57043938
t. millenieal

>>57043858
After posting this, I tried using 2560x1080@40Hz and it worked just fine. The problem appears when I try to use 2560x1080@60Hz, which is supported by both my monitor and GPU.

>>57043881
>>57043909
See >>57043981

Try
xrandr -r 60.0
or just an additional -r 60.0

that said, save it to the config or you'll need to change it after every reboot

Just played around with different autostart solutions and ~/.xprofile was triggered with all WMs (only) and all DEs I tried, so is using xprofile the best solution for best compatibility or is there a better way / are there some DEs/WMs which don't load xprofile?

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>>57044008
This is what happens to my screen.
It also flickers.

>>57044044
>best compatibility
autostart.sh linked to whatever autostart solution your de or wm provides.
>>57044048
>what is printscreen

What should I do after a fresh Lubuntu instalation?
>inb4 uninstall it

>>57042392
Yeah, they also did a thing in GNOME where extensions-version-checking is mostly disabled, meaning you can easily use tons of extensions and they won't break from updates.

I guess GNOME is finally becoming mature, so hopefully it stays stable and they won't have to make any more big changes that break everything and piss everyone off.

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>>57044084
Print screen looks normal, that's why I took a photo of the monitor.

What do you guys use as a Paint alternative? Just something simple and light for quick doodles. GIMP is too big

>>57044162
Pinta.

>>57044126
Faulty DVI/VGA/HDMI cable?

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>>57042388
GNOME comes with this:
https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Baobab

When will yakety yak RC hit the internet?

>>57044170
I don't think so, because on Ubuntu 15.10, with proprietary gpu drivers installed, 2560x1080@60Hz works just fine.

>10 days later
>Arch Linux still hasn't updated to 4.8

where the fuck is my bleeding edge?

I am tired of Ubuntu.
Suggest me a distro.

I have a bunch of services and timers that I want to run as a user process. How do I keep the user logged in? Do I have to keep a tty open with the logged in user?

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>>57044241
Trisquel

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>>57044241
join us :)

>>57044288
>NSA
>SystemD
>Distro that exists for the sole purpose of finding users who do bugtesting for free until shit goes into RHEL
nice meme

install funtoo

>>57044301
found the archfag

>>57044338
found the tech illiterate fedora tipper
news: arch is using systemd

>>57044353
you seem upset. You wouldn't be so angry all the time If you used a stable OS :^)

>>57044353
lel, actually archkid, now on damage control
>priceless

>>57044383
>stable
nice meme
actually stable things go into RHEL, all the shit a untested crap is saved for fedora users :^)

>>57044397
>he doesn't know about rawhide and testing branches
L O L

>>57042344
>controlling brightness
3 and 4
anything else?

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>>57044288
>free except for firmware blobs
This makes it shitty for people who care about freedom.
>no optional nonfree repos like Debian
This makes it shitty for people who don't care about freedom and want convenience.
>b-b-but muh 3rd party repos like rpmfusion
Those are shit because they:
- have no official support from Fedora
- take longer to update & maintain stability with the latest versions of Fedora
- require extra work to find and install/configure for use

Also I hate how their installer works in how it requires tons of mouse usage.

Fedora is shitty for everyone.

>>57044435
The only thing nice I have to say about Fedora is that there's lots of polish to make things look nice. That's about it.

>>57044435
Fedora is a good distro for people who pretend to be "people who actually have a job and instead of being some virgin NEETS", also known as >people who fell for the serious business meme

>>57044435
>This makes it shitty for people who care about freedom.
No one cares about freedom. Everyone posts about muh freedoms but I doubt any of them go as far as freedoming their bios.

>>57044414
Thanks.
>anything else?
Yea. Quite a lot, actually. Which is why I asked for a guide -- I want to know how to configure everything about mpv.

people will always defend the distro they are currently running, all distro wars are retarded

>>57044494
It's only for their good to wake them up and inform them that they fell for the meme. :^)

I have just recently got into Linux. I have installed Arch with Enlightenment window manager. Everything is working mostly fine, but my steam friend chat windows don't display properly, they are either invisable, only showing the border, or they freak out. Anyone have any hints about how to solve this, know if it's a known bug? Any information really. Thanks in advance.

>>57042429
The second option is faster too

>>57044511
>I have installed Arch
fail
>with Enlightenment
>>>/lgbt/

>>57044511
>steam
Why? Why running a gaming client that basically cucks all your games instead of running the games on their own?

>>57044490
I've been using mpv for years and never needed to configure anything
But it should all be in the manual

>>57044494
>people will always defend their opinions, all arguments are retarded

>>57044435
>butthurt this much
topkek

>>57044511
>steam
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/moving-steams-local-folder-deletes-all-user-files-on-linux/
I hope you have backups when running crapware like steam.

>>57044552
scary

The distro you guys are using sucks my distro is better.

>>57044531
>Playing games
>Not using steam as an instant messenger service
If I wanted to play games I would launch my Windows install. Just want to be able to talk to people.

>>57044488
>No one cares about freedom.
Fedora is still a shitty, inconvenient distro regardless of your stance on freedom. You have to go out of your way to use 3rd party repositories for any nonfree software that isn't firmware, which is unnecessary on other distros.

>>57044494
Outliers with no substantial opinions are retarded

>>57044531
>Why running a gaming client that basically cucks all your games instead of running the games on their own?
For the sake of devil's advocate:
Steam benefits:
- save money on sales
- all games in once place
- friends list/chat
- groups of friends
- statistics about play time + achievements
- easily sharing your entire game library with close friends/family
and probably more shit I can't think of off the top of my head.

Yeah, it's unethical and freedom-restricting that they make everything proprietary and DRM-ridden (which leads to shit like this: >>57044552), but there are definitely some advantages in using Steam despite all that.

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>>57044599
>close friends/family

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>>57044609
unless you're using linux-libre your kernel is already littered with binary blobs

>it's okay when others do it but not the distro I like

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>>57044654
>unless you're using linux-libre your kernel is already littered with binary blobs
OR if you use Debian

https://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-linux-free

>>57044654
>unless you're using linux-libre your kernel is already littered with binary blobs
Except Debian, which also comes with a deblobbed kernel and you just enable the modules you really need. Best from both worlds, because most machines need blobbed wifi modules.

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>>57044690
my nigga

How to speed up systemd boot times?

 38.873s apt-daily.service
         15.575s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
         13.230s dev-sda1.device
         10.513s snapd.refresh.service
         10.507s apparmor.service
         10.173s ModemManager.service
          8.451s timidity.service
          8.414s snapd.firstboot.service
          6.703s grub-common.service
          6.577s NetworkManager.service
          6.121s accounts-daemon.service
          6.079s ufw.service

I think about blacklisting some modules too.

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>>57044697
Debian best distro:
- stable & free by default
- can easily opt into a rolling-release
- can easily opt into nonfree software
- simple, straightforward installer
- an elder distro with staying power
- democratic decision making

>>57044720
>timidity
only if you want to play midi files
>ufw
iptables should be enough, but ufw is comfy
>apparmor
never had any use for this

>>57044720
That's a really slow machine.

Run systemd-analyze critical-chain to see which services are cockblocking shit.

>>57044741
That's what I'm missing on Arch, an option to filter packages by free/nonfree. Why can't pacman do this? "arch is what you make out of it" but how when there are no simple options? Portage is great btw, you can directly filter by license. Why don't more package managers support such a basic task?
>inb4 nobody cares about freedom, security holes, inaccessable software

I'm thinking of installing a Linux distribution to escape win 10.
Only problem is I want to use my cracked Manga Studio EX.
Can I use it in wine?
Also recommend distro

What should I look at when choosing a de/wm?

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>>57044762
It's a netbook. Seems like NetworkManager should be purged, but i don't know any lightweight replacement. Any tips?

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>>57044920
Freedom

>>57044920
The monitor.

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>>57043412

>>57045059
What graphics tablet are you using?

>>57044697
not that OP but generally curious. I've always just preferred yum / dnf. Would freed-ora be the better option for freedoms ?

arch kids are autistic tech illiterates
just spend some days on arch bbs or at their irc

>create thread about broken python programs
>get's [closed] because "obvious bait"
>wat
>need to deal with broken program and search the web for solutions myself, find out that Arch devs intentionally broke python because they think python3 is "the new python and everyone needs to lvl up" lol

meanwhile github and stackoverflow is filled with questions why x doesn't work on arch like it should, people need to write workarounds so programs also run on special snowflake arch

meanwhile on the AUR: horrible written shell scripts written in broken POSIX because Arch is "simple" and links (or breaks, python-style) sh to bash, so scripts that would throw out errors just work, well, at least on arch (not speaking about the slowdown by using bash instead of sh).

fucking archkids
>noobuntu is so bloated
not realiting that arch packages are twice as huge as on any other distro because arch devs "simply" throw everything related to a program, binaries, source code, additional docs, html, whatevers into one single package.

>muh bloat
actual arch practice: install whatever the aur provides, because it's so easy, who cares how many additional MB it adds? package count will always be LOW so screeenfeteches are COOL

why is this distro so horrible and why is everyone installing it like it's the best shit on earth?

>>57045059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UWTRnzKXG8

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>>57045095

>>57045149
debqueen spotted

>>57045185
He's obiously using Arch. Do you even read?

>>57045149
>why is this distro so horrible and why is everyone installing it like it's the best shit on earth?

Arch works for everyone because:
Kernel comes with all modules, so it works on every hardware out of the box.
Shit is easy to install, hence *simple*.
Doesn't come with preinstalled DE crap, so you can build your very own distro.

>>57045149
>muh python
lmao you are still at it

>>57045249
>what are netinstalls
t. every other distro

hard question here this is really hard

I'm using ubuntu and I need some simplistic music player. Something with a folder view because fuck tagging music.

Anything good out there?

>>57045455
oh GUI preferrable I ain't taking none of that cmus / nincompoop shit

>>57045455
mpv for cli, moc for tui

>install gentoo as BIOS
>boots int EFI shell
>install gentoo as UEFI
>says my PC doenst support UEFI
>install as MBR BIOS
>boots into EFI shell
>try to make sense out of EFI shell
>it seems 3 out of 5 five mappings point to null
>the other two seem to be aliases for each other
this is nightmarish

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Is Wicd is faster than NetworkManager?

>>57045597
wicd takes longer to reconnect after my system wakes up from standby.
NetworkManager reconnects almost instantly.

I just fell for the i3 meme, how do I even screenshot in this? Can I have workspaces?

Is there any advantage to emerging and compiling from source as opposed to emerging a pre-compiled binary?

>>57045597
STATUTORY RAPE

>>57045597
wicd was a pretty cool program, but it's deprecated nowadays. if you dislike the networkmanager tray, create some aliases for nmcli. There's also connman, but no experiences with it here.

>>57046237
Are you happy with plain i3 or did you install it in order to get some nice looking gaps? Because in this case, get the airblader i3-gaps fork.

>>57046237
>how do I take screenshots
found the arch user

i3 is a window manager. It doesn't have a screenshot utility built-in.
The beauty of i3 is that you build your own desktop environment around it. i.e. - you pick your own screenshoot program.
I use (and recommend) xfce4-screenshooter with i3. If want to go more minimalist, scrot is nice.

i3 *does* however have workspaces built in. Press [your mod key] + [number] to switch to workspace no. [number] All this is in the online i3 documentation, which is really worth a read through - yes, even if you're a newbie. It'll answer all of your questions and more.

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okay niggers, what's going on with all the arch hate in this thread
i though arch is the preferred /g/ distro?

>>57046369
I wanted to try a tiling window manager and that one sounded nice.

>>57046387
Xubuntu actually.

>>57046402
>xfce4-screenshooter
Oh alright, I wasn't aware that one would work. Makes sense though. Do I just add an appropriate keybind in ~/.i3/config ?
>workspaces
Nice.

>>57046407
>>>r/unixporn

>>57046369
Or get his i3-gaps-next package - it has some real nice extra features, is in my experience just as stable, and it's in the AUR.

>>57046416
see >>57042408

>>57046431
You can do that, yeah.
I actually just launch it with dmenu.
>[modkey] + d
>shoo
>enter

>>57046439
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

If I run X on tty1, then switch and login on tty2 and exit, it automatically switches back to tty1 and hangs the system. Any help?

>>57046467
Nice, but I'm used to muh PrtScrn.

>>57046407
>implying neo /g/ has any value nowadays
The preferred /g/ OS is Windows 10 or Arch Linux. Think about it.

I accidently removed a free video driver and replaced it for a non free driver. Now everytime I boot up, I can see a black screen with a bit of light behind it.
I figured I could just reinstall the driver with a liveusb but I don't know how. Please help

>>57046526
Why did you fuck around with modules in the first place? Did you paste some linux blog crap? Howey shat. Do you remember the name of your original video driver?

>>57046526
>I accidently
Post all commands you did, so we can tell you how to revert.

>>57046247
Can I please get an answer to this?

>>57046557
not exactly. it probablz was something like video-ati, but I'm not sure. It definitely was something along the lines of video-*

>>57046407
4chan is highly contrarian, it works in cycles.
The underdog is cool, then it gains popularity and becomes dumb.

>>57046583
I just used the GUI, no commands

Sorry if I'm being annoying. It's dark outside and running redshift doesn't seem to do anything in i3. MY EYES.

>>57046583
>>57046557
Oh wait, I forgot to mention that I am using manjaro. Sry about that

>>57046616
doesn't change anything, drivers are the same

>tfw want to leave gentoo but gentoo won't let me

>>57046526
Non-standard changes are usually saved in /etc/modprobe.d/, try running ls -l /etc/modprobe.d/ and check if something looks familiar to your previous stuffs.

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Do you trust SELinux?

>>57046673
mhwd-gpu.conf is familiar to me, yes. btw I just took a look into the manjaro settings manager here on my live usb and it says video-ati and I am pretty sure that's the one I removed.

>>57046499
bump

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>>57046724
>"anti-drugs-toolkit", sold by the creepy guy from the dark corner at the end of some downtown street
ofc I trust

>>57046845
Now imagine there are actually 2 guys, one is NSA and one is Red Hat (both worked on SELinux). One of them tells you that SystemD is so much better and easier to maintain. He offeres you to try it for free (meanwhile the other one giggles).

>>57046958
why are they guys?

>>57043704
Installed this on a MacBook for college. Great distro. Not too hard to use, but still a step above Ubuntu.

Yo

I have here a secondary hard drive where I put all my shit that goes on home folders, documents, music, you name it. On Windows I just tell the fucker to use my music folder on that drive as the music folder by default.

How would I go around doing that for Ubuntu?

>>57043704
>alternative
I will never get why things which are obviously better are called "alternatives"

like the fuck, implying popular crap must be better because it's popular

>>57047125
drag and drop it into your file manager bookmarks

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what's the best linux for gaming?

>>57047208
>>>>>>>>>>>/v/

>>57047208
https://www.gentoo.org/

>>57047208
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>57047248
thank dr stalman

>>57047208
Fedora. Legit not fucking with you.

>>57047248
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as GNU/Linux is in fact GNU. Linux is not part of the operating system itself, but is the kernel that is not covered by the naming system of an operating system as defined by common sense.

Many users run operating systems such as Windows, OSX, and a variant of BSD yet do not use a cumbersome naming system that includes the kernel, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, GNU has been the exception to this for no reason and has just been called "Linux" for no good reason, and many others use the insane, cumbersome term "GNU/Linux", mostly because the GNU project doesn't want you to think that Linux is a part of GNU.

There really is a Linux, and it's not part of GNU, but it's a kernel, and no one really specifies using it. GNU is the OS; the actual base system you interact with, and is useful with any compatible kernel; it can function with many different kernels such as GNU Mach or even kFreeBSD, so the whole system should only specify the kernel when it matters, because all these kernels are really irrelevant regarding GNU.

>>57047329
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as GNU/Linux or NSA/Windows, is in fact, Windows/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Windows plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Windows system made useful by the NT corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by Microsoft.
Many computer users run a modified version of the Windows system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Windows which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Windows system, developed by Microsoft.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. NT is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the Windows operating system: the whole system is basically Windows with Linux added, or Windows/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of Windows/Linux.

>>57044967

Underrated post.

>>57047986
>>>/reddit/

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>GNOME finally added the ability to rename files from the file dialog

About fucking time.

>>57048032
been using the same feature since the 90's by just using the terminal instead of a cumbersome normie file manager

>>57048067
hax0r

>>57048067
People with JOBS dont' use the terminal

>>57048067
>current year
>terminal
go with the times

>>57048085
>>57048094
>>57048121
nice damage control faggots

>>57048141
how is that damage control?
>omg someone uses a gui

>>57048141

You're obnoxious as fuck.

>>57048032
But does it crash on renaming 50% of the time like Thunar does?

>>57047248
>>57047329
>>57047530
Please STFU and go do your obsessive-compulsive GNU/Jehovah's-Witness evangelism routine somewhere else. You faggots are the ones giving GNU a bad name.

>>57048085
I mean, yeah, basic regex and perl-rename can actually speed up your workflow.
>rename -v 's/\.jpe?g$/.jpg/i'
inb4 muh characer count; create an alias

>>57048299
>>>/facebook/

Anyone here well informed with networking in general ;-; halp needed

>>57048121
>>57048094
Sorry, forgot you guys. (You), (You)
Saddy the page is currently down, but check it later, cuz this guy is amazing and you'll learn that shit in lightspeed: http://www.grymoire.com/
learn2sed
learn2awk
learn2regex
and you never want to leave the terminal again

How do I make firefox obey my dark GTK3 theme? Palemoon does it but I prefer the firefox dev edition, anyone know a fix?

>>57048464
I'd stay with the light theme and instead rice FF with stylish. The bad part of using a dark GTK theame is that you get a lot of inverted input fields and dropdown boxes which look like shit on light websites. Can be fixed with stylish, but it's actually more annoying than just using a light theme and rice that.

>>57048448

>and you never want to leave the terminal again
Yes, until I want to watch a video, browse the web (with full HTML+CSS), edit a picture, edit a video, edit a text document with LibreOffice and countless other activities.

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i fell for the void linux meme, installed it, setup x and xfce and its all smooth.
i installed midori however and it looks weird, like it`s lacking stuff. i dont know how to explain it better. my noob guess is that it's related to gtk.

>>57048555
>midori
tried it too, didn't like it, void however is a good choice
my advice: get icecat, disable librejs and profit, if you want bleeding edge ff, get nightly but make sure to tweak out the botnet crap (which also makes it faster)

>>57048527
The rest of my PC is dark so that it doesn't kill my pussy eyes at night, it worked on older versions of firefox, anyone know how to downgrade

>>57048602
>tweak out
In case anyone is wondering, haasns shitlist is a good start: https://gist.github.com/haasn/69e19fc2fe0e25f3cff5

>>57048555

And how is your current experience different from any other distribution with Xfce?

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When I used Ubuntu, printers connected by USB just werked, but now I'm using Arch and I had to set up the printer and even then it still didn't work. Any suggestions on how to get the same functionality as Ubuntu?

>>57048754
>falling for the arch meme

What's wrong with nano all of a sudden, why the hate?

>>57048791
Yeah I fell for it, and I'm not really benefitting.

Though pacman feels more comfy to use than apt, and the AUR seems like a better system than PPAs.

>>57048754
>from ubuntu to arch
Why the downgrade?

>>57048834
Memes, and meme accessories.
If canonical would hurry the fuck up with Synaptic and its full usage, I'd never leave Ubuntu

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>>57048754

>>57048875
>printers are games
ur fuckin stupid

>>57048886
>he doesn't play with his printer

>>57048886
you never played printer jam?

>>57048905
>>57048906
now I'm feeling new, how to git gud into printer jamming?

Why is Cinnamon such shit to use on Ubuntu? I mean other distros get it as an option, but Ubuntu has to add a PPA

>>57048866
>Synaptic and its full usage
What's this now?

>>57048923
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG8RAbWs1yo

>>57048602
changed to icecat, it just werks. thanks guys.

>>57049004
If I'm not mistaken it's a gui for apt, but I think canonical is making it so apt is less shit to use

>>57049047
afaik synaptic isn't canonical related

>>57049059
I'm a fool, canonical is working on Snap

>>57049006
This one is gold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w68qZ8JvBds

>>57048991
Exactly, I moved to xubuntu because cinnamon was trash on Ubuntu. No other distros had this problem. It was slow and crash prone

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>>57048754
>how to get the same functionality as Ubuntu?

Install Ubuntu.

>>57042142
Hey that pingu is not friendly

>>57046334
That connman looks promising. I wan't to ditch netwerkmeneger.

>>57049479
>posts stallman
>suggests ubuntu

>>57049510
>>>/pol/

>>57049539
>>>/b/

>>57049573
>>>gif

>>57049621
>>>/hr/

Anyone have a script o repo to install and update firefox developer edition on fedora? I can't find a copr or a repo for it.

>>57049914
there is this >>56995478
Just replace nightly with Dev-Firefox or w/e
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/all/

How would i setup a series of scripts that execute based on the presence of files in that folder
trying to automate some audio/video menial work.
Folder1: Exec script 1 when X is put in the folder > output X to folder2
Folder2: Exec script 2 when X is in the folder > out to folder 3
Folder3: Final folder in the chain. X is finished being manipulated and is in the output folder

>>57049986
Horrorible idea. Just use one script and issue it when you need it. Imagine you actually cd into said directory and want change things or you want to remove the diretory etc. There are so many expections you'd need to write exceptions for it, where a script on demand would be just more simple.

>>57050259
Why?
I dont want to dick around with 4 scripts every time i finish something, manually.
I want to be able to export it, pass it through encoding,mux audio if neded, and then have it in a completed folder, so i know what has been processed or not.

>>57050298
Combine them?

1) my task
2) my_script_which_runs_4_other_scripts
3) ????
4) PROFIT

That said, I remember that there's a program that can watch for directory changes and issue events, but I can't remind the correct name, but anyway: it's a bad idea.

I have linux installed on my pc but I havent used it more than once and my windows just got corrupted I think cause when trying to boot in to windows I get a bluescreen after staring at the logo for 5mins. Now is there any way I can fix this by booting to linux without having to completely reinstall windows and lose all of my files?

>>57042142
What's the point of installing GNU/Linux?

how to Linux?
I just my new laptop and want windows gone

>>57050391
1. Download a random live distro.
2. Drop it to an USB drive.
3. Boot from USB.
4. Enjoy your files, fix your system, maybe even stay and install your live distro.

>>57050407
Install Ubuntu, use it.

>>57042142
I remember that gif!

>>57050429
My message might have been a bit uncleat, I already do have linux installed and I can boot in to it normally I was asking how can I fix my windows as I don't have any knowledge on using linux

>>57050397
0. Run a program whenever, wherever, and for any purpose you want.
1. Freedom to open the source code and customize stuff to your needs.
2. Freedom to do so and share what you made with your friends.
3. An amazing community full of people who did 1. and 2. many times.
4. No security problems, no spying, no viruses, not programs that do stuff you don't want.


tl;dr actually using a computer

>>57050480
Didn't use windows in the last years more than 5 minutes, so I have no idea what to do. What I would do: Save your stuff and reinstall (if you really want to keep windows), but beware: reinstalling windows will maybe (99% sure) overwrite your GNU/Linux install and kill Grub.

>>57042142
I've been using solely arch for a little over a year now, when I first installed it I skipped over getting a DE, only using a window manager instead, BSPWM. Overall I'm pretty happy with it but I realize I enjoyed having an actual desktop. What would /g/ recommend? I don't mind bells and whistles, I'm not on a terribly old machine, and I prefer more customizability to less.

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hey /fglt/, i have some easy newfag questions for you, please halp!

q1: what is the best distro for a beginner? and actually important: why?

q2: what's the difference between open source and free software?

q3: does linux support the most common hardware for current computers?

q4: what makes linux more secure than windows? (isnt it more difficult for hackers to destory an os when they know the source code than confronted with hidden code?!)

q5: is arch linux really a meme or is it the de facto /g/ distro?

q6: fun: describe your linux experience in one adjective

thanks!

>>57050757
q1: Either ubuntu or mint, because they come with a lot of GUI programs installed, which is easy for a new user to learn. Also the installer and some software included doesn't assume that you are an advanced user, so it doesn't confuse you with any advanced technical terms.

q2: Open source means that you can find the source code of the program (which can be used to figure what exactly the program does). Free software can mean either free as in beer (costs nothing) or free as in freedom (the user is free to distribute, modify, etc. the program)

q3: yeah ive never had any issue with firmare

q4: because linux is open source, security experts can better defend the OS against hackers because they too can study the code. Since windows is proprietary, only microsoft can audit its security, whereas the open source software can be examined and have its bugs pointed out by anyone.

q5: its not a meme but not necessarily the de-facto one and only /g/ distro. once you become more familiar with linux, it's nice to be able to get rid of any bloat/training wheels you dont need anymore. distros like arch and gentoo come with less of that kind of thing by default.

q6: STYLE

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>>57050757
q1: ubanto
q2: open source means you can watch, but don't touch, free software means you can do whatever the fuch you want; the only rule is that it MUST stay free
q3: most, but there's actually a dusturbing lack of people who (don't) write free drivers, so people need to use binary blobs (botnet)
q4: a huge community, which reads, forks, and improves code every day WILL detect if some faggot tries to implement shit, on Windows there's no way to detect, not even talking about random .exe blobs
q5: arch is a fine distro, which "just werks", it does so by being bloted with simplicity, which makes it run on every computer out of the box and the aur makes it easy to install whatever you want, however, it's also a meme, because it calls itself lightweight while actually being more bloated than other distros
q6: pic related

>>57050757
1. Probably ubuntu, or one of it's offshoots. Most easily comparable to windows/mac, and in my experience googling arch problems when I was new, you'd find a lot of ubuntu people who had the same problem, since they're usually newer users they often go to forums and get answers, making it easier to google your problems as well. Also Mint is pretty similiar as well, from the very limited bit I've seen.
2. Open source means you could go in and change the program as you want, or work to put in a feature you want. Free is either freedom or free beer. It doesn't cost, or it doesn't sell your information out to the highest bidder.
3. Don't have experience enough to answer
4. Linux is such a small percentage of users if someone writing malware wants to spread it, they are much more likely to write for windows or mac. Also each distro is a different set of code, further causing problems.
5. It's bare bones, just an operating system, a way to connect to the internet, and a way to download packages. It is bleeding edge, meaning less time has been spent testing the packages, but you'd get new features as they come. You'll come into more problems than with a stable distro, and more likely to have data loss unless you make backups due it's nature.
6. Not an adjective, but google.

Disclaimer, ~1.5 years of only arch, didn't switch by choice, overwrote my windows partition on accident and just stuck with it.

>>57050923
>mint
Wouldn't check my credit card with it.

>>57050757
isnt it more difficult for hackers to destory an os when they know the source code than confronted with hidden code?

One of the core principles of cybersecurity and cryptography is that the methods are assumed to be public, if a method requires that nobody knows how it works to work, its fundamentally flawed.

>>57042142
what's the most brutal command to stop something that isn't stopped?

>>57051141
poweroff

>>57045149
buttmad debibabby on suicide watch

Back on debian.
can I get a tl;dr of where to use
>aptitude
>apt
>apt-get

Is apt what they are moving to now?

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>>57050757
q1: trisquel
q2: open source is a made up buzzword to get random "doing it for free"s into developing proprietary cancer, free software it the actual free stuff
q3: yes, but sadly only by using proprietary drivers just like NT
q4: actually nothing, that said, there is no such thing like "viruses", there are only programs that do stuff, if you execute them without knowing what they do, it doesn't matter what system you're running
q5: the defacto /g/ distro is gentoo, hence /g/entoomen
q6: adjectives are for tumblrinas

>>57051195
i use apt-get for literally everything

>>57051141
pkill -9 process
that said, 10/10 for this guy: >>57051156

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>>57046407
There's no "preferred /g/ distro" besides Gentoo, obviously.

>>57046407
Arch and Ubuntu rules /g/, get your facts straight

>>57051141
emacs -CRzfvv -x 9 -L 1 thermite

>>57051268
>ubuntu
>arch
hello neo /g/, please fuck off back to where you came from (reddit)
this is a gentoomen board

>>57051282
Gentoo NEETS do't apply

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>>57050923
>>57050955
>>57050985
>>57051205
(etc)
thanks for your imput guys

>>57046724
It's licensed under the GPLv3 and is used in both Debian and Fedora, which are both pretty strict about free software.

Just because the NSA makes it, that doesn't mean it has backdoors/spyware/malware in it. You have to actually discover that shit before you assume it exists.

You people who assume "Google/Microsoft/NSA = 100% evil" are annoying as fuck.

Yes, proprietary software is unethical because it restricts freedoms and makes malware easier to get away with.

Yes, Microsoft/Google/NSA have all made proprietary software and we know that some of it is malware/spyware.

HOWEVER, Microsoft/Google/NSA still have programs/services that are licensed as free software. All of the source code is there, unobfuscated, capable of being entirely vetted (and forked, if need be).

Basically, post some real evidence instead of insinuating that NSA = inherently evil like a mindless dolt.

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>>57051365
Nice try.

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>>57051401
DO NOT REPLY TO NSA POSTERS
do you even read faggot
holy shit, misplaced memes trigger my autism

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>>57051424

>>57051324
who is this qt

i've been using linux for a few months now and i like how you kind of just 'get' what commands seem like they'd work what without having to explicitly learn every single one. like i didn't explicitly know that ps can take a PID argument and will print the info about that process but i assumed it would because it made sense. i feel like i'm getting in sync with the os, like i'm becoming one with linux itself

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>>57051365
I get your thoughts, but wait a seconds. Let's say, programming languages are actual languages, where you can hide subliminal informations in con-texts without saying an actual words about it. Thats why even in open source programs backdoors are possible; you just need to use your language in an intelligent way: function A throws an error called N, which is parsed by function B, which adds, in case something is N, a S and sends it to the kernel, the kernel doesn't know what to do with "NS" and throws an error to program Y, which interprets every error, collected at $dateX to an A, calls a shell and executes $(NSA), there's your open source backdoor.

>>57051499
>yourblog.com

>>57051535
thanks for you (You), nerd

>>57051365
can you link me the source code for some of the nsa programs then, so i can compile it myself and see if it works?

>>57051529
not sure if bait, mentally ill, or actual reality

>>57051401
>>57051401
>>57051447
You guys are fucking idiots. I'm literally just pointing out that:
1. SELinux is free software, licensed under the GPL.
2. You've shown no evidence that it's bad besides mindlessly assuming "NSA = evil"

I'm not saying the NSA is great. I think their global and not-so-secret-anymore spying is disgusting and should be stopped. The only way to certainly combat it is with free software.

If the NSA wants to make free software, then I see nothing wrong with that. If there are any issues with it, they can be easily found and fixed, or the project can be forked.

If/when SELinux has some malware/spyware discovered, then a fork called something like "FreeSELinux" can be made with those changes removed. But that hasn't happened, because afaik there hasn't been anything discovered like that.

But I guess instead of attempting to understand or have any sort of discussion, you'll continue to post "Ignore the mind-warping NSA shill" memes.

>>57051529
At that point, you can't trust any software that you haven't personally vetted and completely understood yourself. And even then, there's potentially human error on your part.

I think as long as there are enough people looking at the source code and its licensed as free software, you're far less likely to have malware/spyware and you can use said software in pretty good conscience.

>>57051555
https://github.com/SELinuxProject/selinux

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>>57051618
my image was just trolling. I always enjoy posting one of my agency folder meems >>57051447

>>57051618
see >>57046845

there is literally nothing wrong with systemd.

>>57046724

lol fucking saved.

selinux is probably okay, since it isn't trying to tentacle-rape every major distro a-la systemd

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Dual booting a 500GB drive for windows+games. Will using a 120GB SSD for linux be too small for a few linux games and general day to day use?
I've got a separate storage drive accessible by both OSes.

I can always get another 500GB for pretty cheap.

Currently using xubuntu 16.04. I've noticed that sound is pretty low, even at max with VLC and Parole media player. Though sound levels seem to be the same as they are in windows for anything in my web browser (youtube etc)

I checked alsamixer but everything is max there.

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>>57042142
Why do almost all distros include the console-kit stuff, what is it use for? because the only thing it seems to be doing is consume memory/proc space

>>57052451
>>57052451
>>57052451

>>57043704
Extremely under rated post

>>57042142
Something else that I want to ask is how can I make my promt only print certain things on the screen? for example I have:
>user@pcname:~$

How can I make it just print the $ symbol? something like this:
>~$

s this normal or some malware? I use Debian 8.5 stable and Firefox. Everytime a page tries to redirect Firefox asks for permission. When I click on accept, sometimes my whole DE crashes; screen goes black and then returns and shows the login prompt. When I log in I have to start all my programs again because they were closed. If then I go to the exact same link and click on redirect it will work fine time. This has happened 2 times in a week. Is this normal?

>>57042741
Yes

You could also use "ifup" and "ifdown"

>>57052360
It's these minor compatibility issues that delay YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP