/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

first for gentoo

is gentoo a meme distro?

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>>56550454
very nice

>>56550500
No, it is the best.

Has Richard Stallman actually programmed anything?

>>56550369
I have seen a great number of poorly Photoshopped images in my time as a photographer and I can tell by the pixels that it is a fake.

>>56550573
A lot, just dig through the manpages.

>>56550573
the GNU Emacs operating system

>>56550601
>man ls
>see this

AUTHOR
       Written by Richard M. Stallman and David MacKenzie.

jesus

>>56550605
Where can I download a GNU OS .iso?

>>56550621
https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.en.html

>>56550535
how does it compare to arch though?
ive been meaning come out of the ubuntu-closet but i dont want to be memed to use a shite os

>>56550573
He wrote GCC, the program you compile Linux with.

>>56550642
If you don't want to be memed on, stay away from Arch.

>>56550621
you can just install emacs like a normal operating system on your Linux, Windows or OSX kernel.

>>56550617
That's why I'm using exa.

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>>56550587
Please avoid using the term “photoshop” as a verb, meaning any kind of photo manipulation or image editing in general. Photoshop is just the name of one particular image editing program, which should be avoided since it is proprietary. There are plenty of free programs for editing images, such as the GIMP.

>>56550678
Can I play Minecraft on EmacsOS?

>>56550702
Yes.

>>56550505
Do you have the version without emerge and without the cumdumpster?

>>56550737
You mean just a Gentoo logo?

>>56550737
>>56550804
digging the archives, maybe I've luck

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Any opinion on Slax Linux and Salix?

How could I achieve this?

$ cd ~/Documents/newfolder
bash: cd: newfolder: No such file or directory
Would you like to create directory ~/Documents/newfolder? [y/n]

either modifying cd or creating a different command?

>>56550842
yes

Any good rice for Plasma desktops?

>>56550842
Easy mode: create a new command.
Man mode: modify cd.

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>>56550505
Image has been optimized.

>>56550505
>>56550823
>>56550804
found the other (distro) versions in case anyone cares: https://warosu.org/g/thread/48653055

>>56550842

mkcd (){ 
    [ ! -d "$1" ] && mkdir -p "$1" && cd "$1" 
}

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>>56551002
This is a good post.

>>56550842

PATH_TO_CD=`which cd`
alias cd="~/.scripts/myshellscript"

put this in your .bashrc
then do in the script whatever you wish
use $PATH_TO_CD if you want to use the original cd. share results if you want.

>>56550369
who's that boy

>>56551064
Richard Stallman

>>56550897
you'd wanna toy with aurorae themeing and kwin scripting, right?

I am considering switching to Linux. Currently I use some programs that only work on Windows, like iCloud Drive and FL Studio. FL Studio is no problem, I can just dual boot because I usually have "sessions" of music production. But iCloud Drive is a problem though. I use it to sync my password database (I use a password manager, but it works on Linux) to my iPhone. Is there any nice solution to this?

Another thing I will miss from Windows which may sound strange is the ability to do stuff in MS Paint, copy it, and paste it right into a facebook conversation. Can one do a similar thing in Linux?

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>>56550500
The thing with gentoo is that you compile everything from source, which can be useful because you can use (USE) flags to enable or disable specific features of a program.

That said, you can also just use any other distro, because most if not all package managers can download the packages source and compile them for you. The difference it, that you need to add the configure flags yourself.

tl;dr same autism as arch

>>56550842
add that to your .bashrc

cd() {
    if [ -d $1 ]; then
        builtin cd $1
    else
        echo "bash: cd: $1: No such file or directory";
        echo -n "Would you like to create directory $1? [y/n] ";
        read opt; [[ $opt == y ]] && mkdir -p $1;
    fi
}

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>Use this OS goy. It's free, just don't make any money off of it
Why should I use linux? The license is communist and ran by a literal jew. I'm not going to work like a wagecuck on an OS that has no customer support of any kind and has no games.

>>56551525
Very nice, but quote your variables (or it breaks at spaces) and don't be inconsistent with your brackets. I'd write it like this:

cd() {
    if [ -d "$1" ]; then
        builtin cd "$1"
    else
        printf 'bash: cd: %s: No such file or directory\n' "$1"
        printf 'Would you like to create directory %s? [y/n] ' "$1"
        read opt; [ "$opt" = "y" ] && mkdir -p "$1";
    fi
}

>>56551583
Which is the least Jewish OS?

>>56551657
Linux is the most jew OS there is. It demands everything be free and is highly communist.

>>56551685
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

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>>56551685
>Isn't it ironic that the proprietary software developers call us communists? We are the ones who have provided for a free market, where they allow only monopoly. … if the users chooses this proprietary software package, he then falls into this monopoly for support … the only way to escape from monopoly is to escape from proprietary software, and that is what the free software movement is all about. We want you to escape and our work is to help you escape. We hope you will escape to the free world.

>>56551704
Nice pasta homo, don't you have work like a wagecuck should be?

>>56551716
That isn't what "free market" means.

>>56551716
>no games
>no good software
>jew
cuck

>>56551704
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as GNU/Linux is in fact GNU. Linux is not part of the operating system itself, but is the kernel that is not covered by the naming system of an operating system as defined by common sense.

Many users run operating systems such as Windows, OSX, and a variant of BSD yet do not use a cumbersome naming system that includes the kernel, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, GNU has been the exception to this for no reason and has just been called "Linux" for no good reason, and many others use the insane, cumbersome term "GNU/Linux", mostly because the GNU project doesn't want you to think that Linux is a part of GNU.

There really is a Linux, and it's not part of GNU, but it's a kernel, and no one really specifies using it. GNU is the OS; the actual base system you interact with, and is useful with any compatible kernel; it can function with many different kernels such as GNU Mach or even kFreeBSD, so the whole system should only specify the kernel when it matters, because all these kernels are really irrelevant regarding GNU.

>>56551753
kek

Are there any ISO's for debian unstable or testing that come with Cinnamon?

>>56551685
And who asked your biased and stupid opinions?

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>>56551751
>cuck
educate!

>>56550836
I used salix as a platform for building lfs. seemed neat. no experience with it other than that.

>>56551751
>muh games
>good software
>christian
still cuck, because it's loonix.

>>56551786
>cuckold thinks his opinions matter

>>56551792
That's an analogy for NEETs vs wagecucks. The NEETs are truly free and aren't slaves to make a jew boss rich while the cuckolds work and get cucked by NEETs.

>>56551792
>the jewish communist controls the users AND the programs

>In 2001 the term received broader public attention when Craig Mundie, Microsoft Senior Vice President, described the GPL as being "viral".[146] Mundie argues that the GPL has a "viral" effect in that it only allows the conveyance of whole programs, which means programs that link to GPL libraries must themselves be under a GPL-compatible license, else they cannot be combined and distributed.

based craig

>>56551826
Can't see the problem here.

sysV init vs systemd go

>>56551826
"Craig Mundie" should educate himself about the topic. For such situations there's AGPL and other solutions.

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Is there a USB WiFi adapter with the following features:

* support 5 GHz (802.11n at least)
* support master mode
* does not need non-free firmware

Bonus points for detachable antenna, but not important.

>>56551871
>commie license driving down wages, "freeing" software to pajeets and chinamen
>literally forces you into its license if you so much as touch gpl-infected software with a dick hair
>this is not anti-freedom because

jesus debian website is so awful. i just want the debian testing ISO in torrent. the fuck is this. fuck it i'll use ubuntu

>>56551922
You're just new. Before I switched to GNU/Linux I had no idea either. Don't act like the man who knows everything "because" and watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw8K460vx1c

>>56551944
lel

>>56551944
There is no such torrent, retard.

>>56551944
>fuck it i'll use ubuntu
based

>>56551944
You can't downlowd a repo, idiot. You change the links in your sources.list.

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>>56550697
green is my pepper

>>56552002
I am talking about debian actual website. I just wanted a Testing ISO from torrent and not slow as direct.

Their website is so ugly and confusing.

>>56552246
You didn't listen, there is no testing iso.
You also didn't visit the website, since they clearly explain how to upgrade to testing.
Fuck off troll.

Sup guys. I have debian and wangblows 10 in a dual boot configuration on my computer. I also have both OSs mount one of my other drives at startup as a media storage drive. Every single time I boot wangblows and then boot gnu+linux my other drive fails to boot cause windows didnt clean the drive properly or whatever and i have to run ntfsfix from an emergency shell and reboot. Is there a way to have this command run automatically during startup?

>>56552419
Turn off fast startup in windows.

>>56552505
didnt even know that existed. danke

>>56552386
While you shouldn't use them, there are testing isos.

>>56552419
>I have debian and wangblows 10 in a dual boot
Scary, man, really scary

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Are there other router operating systems like OpenWRT? This one cannot be installed on my routers, so I need some other FREE SOFTWARE.

>>56552862
Why can't you install OpenWRT?

Hmm, I've gathered enough courage to try to install a linux called openSUSE!

>>56552923
Why?

>>56552951
Gotta catch them all

>>56552962
I don't understand american jokes.

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>>56552705
It isn't. I've had this setup on one of my machines for quite a while now.

>>56552923
Godspeed, anon!

Hey guys, purely aesthetics question because I'm kind of retarded at these things:

What do you think would look better on the black matte back of a thinkpad?

This?

https://www.unixstickers.com/stickers/linux_os_distribution_stickers/debian-os-saped-sticker

Or this?

www.unixstickers.com/stickers/linux_os_distribution_stickers/debian-logo-shaped-clear-sticker

(First has white border which my gut tells me would look awful on black. Second has transparent border)

What say you, aesthetics experts?

>>56552862
DD-WRT

>>56551525

What's the significance of using "builtin cd" instead of just "cd"?

>>56552951
Because I'm tired of my fvwm desktop and a manually configured kernel. I'm tired of compiling source code. I need something shiny and wasteful. Something that does everything by itself, so I can just drink tea and listen to Debussy.

>>56553064

You can install the same "shiny and wasteful" thing on your current distribution.
Nothing to see here, just another idiot switching distributions for reasons that don't make sense.

>>56551944
Linus Torvalds once complained that it was hard to install. Now they seem to have upped it a bit and made it hard to download in the first place.

>>56553059
It disambiguates the bash builitin from any other usage because it will cause infinite recursion otherwise.
Also, that code has a blemish.
>>56553110
The shinier thing is, the longer it compiles. It's still a manual process. Doesn't compare to the feeling of freshly installed operating system that just works. And you say like the switching is troublesome, while it isn't. openSUSE isn't OpenBSD that would decline to mount ext4 for the reason of incompatible features that aren't implemented yet.

>>56551916
thinkpenguin.com will be your best bet

I got arch with openbox. How can i manage displays? I use laptop and external monitor and i would like to use one at a time.

Also this tight triangle on top of a box is not displayed correctly. Is that some encoding problem?

>>56553282
Thanks but they don't have any 5 GHz adapters

I can't seem to find anything with 5 GHz and free drivers/firmware

>>56553321
>>56553282
I would even accept non-free firmware, as long as the driver is free
But there's nothing that works well, or doesn't support master mode

>>56553321
Then it probably doesn't exist yet. :/

>>56553303
Read the wiki

>>56551944
>testing iso
why would you download the installers beta/alpha version?

>>56553303
You could try xrandr. The command can be used both to query available video outputs and to configure the server to choose one and to disable the other.

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Is void any good and why?

>>56553473

If you were in a position to profit from (or even need) Void Linux you wouldn't be asking a stupid question like that.

>>56552992
I wouldn't use a sticker at all. Print out a stencil and spray it like a true gangster.

>>56553349
just in case clarification is needed, he's talking about reading the arch wiki

>>56553542
>not cutting the logo in with your knife.

>>56553570
>Using a proprietary knife

>>56553570
>not carving the logo into your custom wood case then usinge a wood burner to enhance it
it's like you don't even care about esthetics

>>56553473
Void is garbage

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>tfw your keyboard has a windows key

>>56553632
>not ordering custom keycaps with distros logo instead of the windows logo

>>56553632
might as well sand it down

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>>56553632

Is Opensuse the most based OS?

>>56553744
Stop distrohopping and just get Debian.

How the fuck do I compile things from Github? It just keeps faulting about missing files, I've had to install something like 20 packages so far and it's still moaning

>>56553799
You install dependencies and then follow the instructions. It should list dependencies in the readme.

>>56553799
there should be a meta package to install called build tools or some shit

>>56553775
No

>>56553799
>How the fuck do I compile things f̶r̶o̶m̶ ̶G̶i̶t̶h̶u̶b̶
It has little to do with Github.
Generally all dependencies should be listed in the INSTALL or README file.
If not, the developer was too lazy and you have to figure it out by reading the compile errors, or source code

>>56553799
or in INSTALL

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>>56553775

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>>56553830
>If not, the developer was too lazy and you have to figure it out by reading the compile errors, or source code
fug

>>56553877
kek, please share apartheid

>>56553744
that would be gentoo

>>56553877
Get that ugly windows shit outta here.

>>56553880
On Debian you can use apt-file to see which package includes what is missing.

Fuck, posted in the wrong thread.
Is krita ok for basic photo editing? Not sure I really need all that gimp offers.

>>56553957
For basic stuff just use imagemagick.

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Why does qbittorrent have such an ugly hover pop up like this? I've noticed it with a few other qt application as well, in kubuntu 16.04.

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>>56553901
>>56553901
literally stormfront

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t786671/

>>56553979
No

>>56553957
Of course.
And if you just want something as basic as paint try kolourpaint

>>56553979
isn't imagemagick strictly cli though? seems like you'd have to memorize a lot or have a cheat sheet just for simple stuff.

>>56553957
I guess pinta is the equivalent to mspaint.
Krita is good enough, GIMP the best. For resizing, coloring, whatever >>56553979

>>56554006
>pinta
I prefer mtpaint

>>56554006
>not using photoshop in wine

>>56554042
>not just using gimphoto
it's gimp with a gui redesign to resemble photoshop

>>56554042
>using proprietary software
>>>/cuck/

>>56553990
>KDE
found your problem
everything KDE or Qt looks like shit
If you care about aesthetics don't use KDE or Qt

>>56554063
just use single window mode in gimp and add a theme, good enough

>>56554067
>everything KDE or Qt looks like shit
No, everything looks fantastic except for that pop up. Why do you bother posting absolute nonsense about something you know nothing about?

>he doesn't use xfce

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>>56554067
Lol what?

>>56554124
>he can't quote

>>56553648
Why would you? That shit gets probably used by your WM/DE, not your distro anyway.

>>56554124
>using a de at all
newfags

>>56554128
What's that font?

>>56554148
Montserrat

>>56553632
>not scratching it off with a xacto

>>56554128
>KDE fags thinks this looks good
just your average KDE user shit taste

Does Devuan run OpenRC?

>>56554128
>not using rtorrent
>being a gui babby

>>56553951
>On Debian you can use apt-file to see which package includes what is missing.
damn that's handy

>>56554293
>not using aria2
>being a tui babby

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>>56554264

>he doesn't use opensuse

>>56552246
Irritability and impatience get better once you get
around ~18

>>56554293
rtorrent is shit
>don't download all the files in a torrent
>torrent never reaches completed status

>>56554264
Let's see yours
>Hard mode
-No Crippled fonts
-No NEET WM

>>56554356
>show me your penis, you made me feel insecure about mine

Just set up i3wm in Debian and I'm trying to set up my config file right now.

I'm having an issue getting a wallpaper to display.
In my config file I have added the line
"exec --no-startup-id feh --bg-scale ~/home/vicious/Pictures/wallpapers/darkandcold.jpg"

Is there a reason this isn't working? I'm relatively new to i3 and using config files in general, as I've been babied by Ubuntu/Windows for too long.

btw I have installed feh already so it's not that i dont have it installed.

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>>56554373
kek

>>56554373
>Doesn't even have the balls to show after seeing the hard mode
butthurt NEET spotted

>>56554162

Looks like shit..

>>56554375
Remove the tilde or do it like this ~/Pictures/...

fuck it, i can't even run Manjaro

after booting it just freeze on the loading screen az the line "hid_dscr_cmd failed to load", i hardly could get the virtual disk to load also, it always stucked scanning in a forever loop and everybody says it has problem with graphics driver, i don't know what to do anymore, i don't want to ubuntu or mint ;_;

>>56554437
x100 better than crippled thin as hair haxor fonts

>>56554453
try debian or fedora, or give gentoo a shot if you fancy fiddling

>>56554453
you don't want manjaro anyways bruh, they're real bad about keeping their security certification up to date. just use architect or antergos

>>56554443
tried setting the destination to ~/Pictures/wallpapers/darkandcold.jpg and then resetting i3 but no picture showed up still.

Do I have to exit my session and log back in for it to take effect?

>>56554453
>manjaro
newfags will never learn, will they?

>>56554453
Are you sure that's the actual message? Google has zero results.

Which text editor is best? I'm too used to notepad++ and its "minimize blocks of code" feature, which gedit doesn't seem to have

>>56554524
emacs

>>56554524
Kate

Currently using cinnamon but I got too many issues with it.
Is there a DE like cinnamon, as lightweight or more, easy to customize ?

>>56554569
XFCE / LXDE?

>>56554480
definitely, this is why i'm getting mad

>>56554479
what fucking distro should i use then?

>>56554524
eclipse

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>Because it's bare freaking bones! Seriously, once you've installed Arch you get the command prompt, pacman, a compiler, and that's about it. There's no fluff, no additional garbage, nothing you don't want. Install only the stuff you want.

>If you want to see a stark contrast between Arch and other big distros (like Debian), get a Raspberry Pi. Raspbian will choke the CPU from time to time, but Arch just flies on that thing.

so what's the current meme distro? linux lite?

>>56554524
check out notepad qq it's a linux recreation of notepad ++

>>56554583
>>56554470

>>56554569
Trinity and Mate.

>>56554583
opensuse

if you use kde or gnome yuo're also a total homo hipster and should kjust use osx

>>56554611
how bout budgie

>>56554593
How's life with autism?

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>>56554628
>How's life with autism?

>>56554593
>>56554634
hey guys at least they're keeping it simple, stupid!

>>56554528
>>56554532
>>56554602

Ty, time to check them all out and see which one is the least shit. Will primarily be doing web design, not sure if everyone uses some Dreamweaver-type IDE or writes stuff from scratch

>>56554604
okay, i'm going to try one of them but not gentoo, sounds too difficult for me yet

>>56554614
we have suse at the uni, not bad, if i don't like debian or fedora that'll be my last resort

>>56554634
>Being this much butthurt for not being able to install Arch

>>56554473
website != distro retard

also it's not "they", it's the holder who isn't in time, nothing to do with manjaro
https://manjaro.github.io/expired_SSL_certificate_update/

>>56554597
Alpine

Why can I not connect to mpd with ncmpcpp? Cantata works fine.

music_directory        "/home/norbert/Music"
playlist_directory        "/home/norbert/.config/mpd/playlists"
db_file            "/home/norbert/.config/mpd/mpd.db"
log_file            "/home/norbert/.config/mpd/mpd.log"
pid_file            "/home/norbert/.config/mpd/mpd.pid"
state_file            "/home/norbert/.config/mpd/mpdstate"
sticker_file            "/home/norbert/.config/mpd/sticker.sql"
bind_to_address        "192.168.1.6"
port                "6600"
metadata_to_use "artist,album,title,track,name,genre,date,composer,performer,disc,albumartist,comment"
audio_output {
    type "jack"
    name "MPD"
}
audio_output {
    type        "httpd"
    name        "HTTPD"
    encoder        "vorbis"        
    port        "8000"
    bind_to_address    "192.168.1.6"        
    quality        "8.0"            
    format        "44100:16:1"
    max_clients    "0"            
}
audio_output {
        type            "fifo"
        name            "Visualizer feed"
        path            "/tmp/mpd.fifo"
        format          "44100:16:2"
}
---------------------------------------------------------
ncmpcpp_directory = /home/norbert/.config/ncmpcpp
lyrics_directory = /home/norbert/.config/ncmpcpp/lyrics
mpd_host = 192.168.1.6
mpd_port = 6600
mpd_music_dir = /home/norbert/Music
mpd_connection_timeout = 10
visualizer_fifo_path = /tmp/mpd.fifo
visualizer_output_name = Visualizer feed
visualizer_in_stereo = no
visualizer_sample_multiplier = 1.5
visualizer_sync_interval = 30
visualizer_type = spectrum
visualizer_look = ●▋

>>56554583
Don't listen to the trolls, Manjaro is fine.

>>56554700
I'm not talking about the ssl security certificate dumbass, I'm talking about the security certificate for their repos

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>>56554693
>not being able to install Arch
lol

>>56554583
>definitely, this is why i'm getting mad
Well you've managed to find something that no one has ever found or typed before.

>>56554614
>opensuse
pls stop shilling, literaly nobody here is using it

>>56554730
t. redhat

>>56554704
shh anon

>>56554693
This is why nobody likes Archtoddlers.

>>56554746
>>56554724 (Samefag)
Confirmed for not being able to install Arch

>Butt Status
hurt

:^)

>>56554721
lol, fuck off troll

>>56554741
>shh
ssh*

>>56554721
manjaro misses the point of arch by coming preinstalled with lots of shit

>>56554762
>the truth hurts so I'll call him a troll
shitty manjaro dev detected

>>56554772
>manjaro misses the point of arch by coming preinstalled with lots of shit
So it's just like arch?

>>56554809
no smartass, the point of arch is to build exactly the distro you want with the programs you want and no extra bullshit you won't use

>>56554772
>the point of Arch
>coming preinstalled with lots of shit
I see there are still people here who didn't got the Arch BTFO message: https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

>>56554820
Then why are all the kernel modules enabled by default on arch?
And why is the arch minimal installation size double the size of the debian minimal install size?

>>56554856
>lol fuk systemd I'm so hip
You keep forcing your meme link and yet no one takes you seriously.

>>56554856
>systemd is bloat therefore arch was never intended as a minimalist distro

>>56554879
because fucking hardware support, you know the thing debian is famous for lacking

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>>56554772
>manjaro misses the point of arch by coming preinstalled with lots of shit

>>56554879
>why all the kernel modules enabled by default on arch?
Kept it simple - you don't have to hunt down modules for your SSDs

It's you, isn't it? The same newfag that has two arguments : 1. Meme link 2. lol why are the kernel modules enabled

>>56554903
Installing kernel modules when needed is simple, stupid.

>>56554934
not when you can't even get on the net cause your wireless isn't supported. right now you can still make the outdated argument of hurr muh lan, but more and more laptops, plust tablets and shit come without lan ports

>>56554934
>Kernel doesn't load because you turned all of them off
>""Simple""

No

>>56554901
>>56554903
Read the full statement, faggot.

>kernel bloated with ALL modules

>packages bloated with source, docs, and literally everything other distros split into multiple packages

>no user freedom; you don't build your system the way you want, you build your system the way the developers want

>the "Arch Way" is a meme, Arch was never a minimal distro

>>56554966
>kernel bloated with ALL modules
GOD FUCKING DAMN YOU FUCKING RETARD, YOU CAN SET SPECIFIC MODULES OFF/ON DURING INSTALLATION

You never fucking read, do you?

>>56554966
I'm not reading a wall of text, but the fact is that from a quick skim that whole wall is all about some fag being put in his place for whining about systemd

>>56554966
>>packages bloated with source, docs, and literally everything other distros split into multiple packages
so this is why they all have such a low package count, kek

>>56554933
>hunt down
If you are not a retard searching and installing can be done in 30 seconds max. But who the fuck would buy an ssd that requires proprietary drivers?
And no, i necer even read that link. I just like to prove memespouting idiots wrong.

>>56555010
>But who the fuck would buy an ssd that requires proprietary drivers?
People with money

>>56555003
No it isn't.

>>56555033
bullshit, I read the beggining, skimmed the body and read the end, it's about systemd and some fag bitching about it getting put in his place

>>56555033
It is. It starts and ends with systemd. Not him but I read it ages ago

I just installed debian on server and i cant install ffmpeg?
wtf?
E: Package 'ffmpeg' has no installation candidate

>>56554960
>preseeding is hard
>the nonfree installer doesn't exist
everyone that bought into the "arch users are knowledgeable" meme before now probably stopped.

>>56555003
It isn't really about systemd. The dev is mad about the "simple and lightweight" / "Arch way" thing people keep memeing.

>>56554577
>xfce
>press <super> key
>doesn't open menu
>default menu is shit
>everything need to be configured properly

>>56554624
>budgie
isn't it a bloated DE ?

>>56554611
>mate
gonna try it
>trinity
gonna try it too

>>56555052
>doesn't read
>but knows it
typical archtoddler, enjoy living in your dream world

>>56555027
No, people that actually have money do not make compromises.

>>56555056
Ffmpeg is not completely compatible with the dfsg. you can just add deb-multimedia like everyone else.

>>56555079
>complaining about setting up keybinds and light gui configuration
damn you really want it to work like windows right out of the box. think elementary OS is made for people like you.

>>56555089
Thanks, this basically BTFOs all "Linux is for NEETS" memes.

>>56555060
even the nonfree debian installer is horribly lacking in hardware support dumbass

ITT: butthurt blue team

>>56555088
>Article title:
[arch-general] systemd new dependencies impede using OpenRC
>Litreally thread bitching about muh OpenRC piece of shit
>Systemd: 17 mentions


>"Not about systemd"

Fuck off turd brain

I disabled sound in Wine using

winetricks sound=disabled

. I re-enabled it by using

winetricks sound=alsa

but am not getting sound in any of my wine applications, even after a reboot. Any suggestions?

>>56555175
Just read the article and stop arguing. Lerning doesn't hurt, kid.

>>56555204
I just said I read the article ages ago, dumbshit

>>56555223
Read it again, since it seems you still don't get the point. The topic is systemd, but the mail is about a dev who explains why Arch isn't what people think it is.

>>56555270
Are you stupid? Just read the title, it says right there: OpenRC butthurt.

>>56555291
Jesus christ on the cross...

ITT: blue team can't accept the truth

Given this: https://www.freetype.org/freetype2/docs/subpixel-hinting.html, does it still make sense to install the infinality-patched versions of cairo, fontconfig and freetype2 and jdk8/jre8?

Maybe I am misunderstanding, but if I removed all these patched packages and installed their originals, including the new freetype2 with the v40 defaults, wouldn't the v40 font rendering _not_ be applied to JDK/JRE for example? I was under the impression that these packages would need to be specifically patched to have good font-rendering.

Basically I am asking, do I switch from the patched infinality packages to the regular ones and use the freetype2 v40 font rendering or not?

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>>56555333

>>56555111
I don't want it like windows, windows would be even worse than xfce.
Cinnamon is just perfect. The unique problem is all those crashes I get.

>red team
>blue team
just install both; gentoo

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>>56555383
>purple team
This.

>>56555383
>>56555402
>team
>>>/pol/

Grow up or just try acting like adults.

>>56546349
Well, then I can't change ports. I'm using the internal speakers of my laptop.

>>56555291
Do you suffer brain damage?

How do I install kde neon in kubuntu? Apparently it is possible but I can find no instructions anywhere.

>>56555402
I like that material design logo. :3

Why are Arch users so cancerous? More so than any other user base. Serious question

>>56555490
They seem cancerous because there are people like you constantly shitting on them for no reason, so they retaliate. It's easy to follow that Arch users are just as cancerous as the people that have made it their mission to tell Arch users how cancerous they are.

>>56555531
>t. arch user

>>56555562
>t. the other side of the coin

>>56555571
:^)

>>56550667
>>56554593
>>56554693
>>56554724
>>56554746
>>56554757


heres a good pasta about Arch:

Arch is quite good for the mentally ill. Not baiting seriously.

Gf(geothermal force) and I was talking about depression one day and her sister came up. She suffers from clinical depression, well almost just she takes it more seriously(catch 22). So the best way the get rid if that illnes is to find a purpose in your life and be busy about it.

Now here comes Arch in the picture. By installing and using Arch you will put a lit of work into it, tinkering with the system etc, you will be busy. You see what am I going for? A person with arch, especially a newbie is taking long times to learn the system and get control over it. It someways rewards you by making adjustment, you accomplish something.

This is perfect for curing depression.

So in conclusion Arch is for the mentally sick.

>>56555531
I'm not shitting on them.

I read this entire thread. That was my takeaway; Arch users seem cancerous and I don't understand why.

>>56553957
Krita is painting software and probably becoming a bigger and more complex beast than gimp (but in a good way). Not at all made for photo editing. Krita and GIMP do completely different things (even though i'm not quite sure what it is that gimp does).
>basic photo editing
pinta

>>56555641
I haven't read the entire thread, but I just scrolled through it after your reply. The only thing I see at a quick glance is a few tired old memes about Arch and people quoting things that no one has said.

To me it seems like that these stupid memes making fun of Arch users wouldn't be posted by Arch users?

>>56554128
fucking hate how they remove the vertical lines between toolbars and so on. Can these imbeciles not see that this makes the application look extremely inconsistent and cluttered?

>>56555628
>tfw i learned how to install gentoo to distract myself from suicidal ideation

>>56551525
>>56551649
I really like the idea, but here's one problem. Bash can cd into variables and if a variable is set, the script will create a directory instead of cding to the variable.

Is there a way to add a check if `cdable_vars' is set?

>>56555810
or maybe just if $1 is a variable

>>56555628
You know, you could replace any instance of the word Arch with Linux or Computer Science and it would not get any less accurate.

> By installing and using Arch you will put a lit of work into it
Only a complete and utter NEET would think that installing/maintaining Arch deserves the term "a lot of work".

>>56555841
>>56555810

$ lel=lol
$ [ -e $lel ] && echo 0 || echo 1
1
$ [ -e $lol ] && echo 0 || echo 1
0

-e means "exists"

In bash is there a way to make an alias that you can concatenate. Iike
alias dir = /path/to/dir
$ cd dir+"/src"

>>56555880
Thanks. (if [ -d "$1" ] || [ -e "$1" ]; then)

>>56555903
Just use variables like
porn='~/porn/'
straight='straight-stuff/'
gay='gay-stuff/'

then cd "$porn$gay"

>>56555903
use variables

>>56555555

>>56556032
bad get

>>56555973
Bad news. -e may work for variables, but not for cdable_vars. ;_;

I like Loonix but I can't stand Stallman or GNUtism, what do?

I want to make a script and save the output files in to a directory inside the current one (the new one does not exist yet).

This is the command, how do I make the second $a nest in to a new directory?

for a in *.wav; do
  sndfile-convert -pcm16 $a $a
done

Would this work?

mkdir converted
for a in *.wav; do
  sndfile-convert -pcm16 $a converted/$a
done

>>56556119
It's sad that you can't stand it since software freedom is good for you.

Looking at distros of linux. My priorities in order are: stability, compatibility, support

My options in order are: Ubuntu, Debian, OpenSUSE

I think Im going to be fine either way, but I thought I could at least ask you first anon.

>>56556183
I got free aids reading this post

>>56556167
>Would this work?
Yes, but always quote your variables, otherwise it will break when the files have spaces. It's a good idea to use quotes for everything that isn't an integer. It's also a good idea to use ./ which stands for "current directory" but it works without it.

mkdir converted
for a in *.wav; do
  sndfile-convert -pcm16 "$a" "./converted/$a"
done

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>>56553632
>tfw you moved and remapped your keys so your number row is 0123456789 instead of 1234567890

>>56556247
Fantastic, thank you for the advice.

>>56556194
>stability, compatibility
definitive Debian stable

>support
well the web is full of ubuntu tutorials, articles and theres a ubuntu wiki, but everything that works for ubuntu also works for debian, so it doesn't really matter

>suse
didn't use it, no idea

>>56556258
>can't unsee
I hate you.

I have a 128 gb SSD, and 1 TB HDD.
Can I dual boot, where I have both my OS' on the SSD and then use the HDD for all other files for both Windows and Linux?

Why is X server such a pain in the ass?

>>56556345
Thanks, it looks like Im going with Debian and XFCE

I'm moving on from Arch to the wonderful world of *too. Should I install Gentoo or Funtoo?

>>56556565
Gentoo

>>56556565
install gentoo

Looking for a good laptop distro. Thinking of just doing Ubuntu, thoughts /g/?

>>56556565
Funtoo, much saner.
Every change gentoo has had in the last few years as come from funtoo.

How much time does it take to install packages on Gentoo? I'm a student so I don't know if I'd have the time to run it over something like Arch or Debian unstable

>>56556663
lubuntu instead, the same but less bloat

>>56556691
Depends what it is, what your hardware is and what you have done to optimize things.
Between 10 seconds to a few hours.

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Who /compilingtheircompiler/ here?

>>56556194
我只是想插話了一會兒。什麼你指的是像Linux,其實,GNU/Linux的,或我最近採取了調用它,GNU plus Linux的加。Linux不是一個操作系統對本身,而是一個功能完備的GNU系統的另一個而免費的組件由GNU corelibs,外殼公用事業和重要的系統組件包括由POSIX定義一個完整的操作系統進行了有益的。

許多計算機用戶每天運行GNU系統的修改版本,沒有意識到這一點。通過事件的奇特轉,今天被廣泛使用的GNU版本通常被稱為“Linux的”,它的許多用戶都沒有意識到,它基本上是GNU系統,由GNU項目開發的。

真的是一個Linux,而這些人都在使用它,但它僅僅是一個他們所使用的系統的一部分。Linux是內核:在分配機器的資源,你運行其它程序的系統程序。內核是一個操作系統的主要部分,但沒有用由本身;它只能在一個完整的操作系統的上下文中工作。Linux是組合通常使用與GNU操作系統:整個系統基本上是GNU Linux的加入,或GNU/Linux操作系統。所有所謂的“Linux”發行版是真正的GNU/Linux分佈。

>>56552885
Not enough memory and some other thing.

>>56556918
Hilarious. I did notice your last statement about no serious business considering Gentoo was not funny because it is not true. I do happen to know 2 high level network administrators who are very seriously considering Gentoo for their server farms. They had invested much time and effort building these systems and now Red Hat is dropping support and forcing an upgrade. They decided they would like to avoid a forced upgrade in the future . Since their time is valuable they are very seriously considering Gentoo and are evaluting it as we speak.

>>56556918
>GNU plus Linux
>in a symbolic language
get your syntax right

>>56556785
I run an X1 Carbon 2nd gen with an i7 processor. I've tried Arch and really like it, and I think I'd like Gentoo more due to the customizability, but the time might be an issue

>>56552997
Not possible either.

>>56556930
Admin here. We have three server farms in Denver running Gentoo. I like it a lot. Having to deal with RHEL is completely obnoxious by comparison. Too restrictive and the tools simply haven't been improved in years. They iterate, but nothing really improves.

>>56556918
Anyone got the german version?

>>56556973
Ich möchte nur für einen Moment einwerfen. Was Sie sich beziehen, wie Linux, ist in der Tat, GNU / Linux, oder wie ich vor kurzem eingenommen haben nannte es, GNU und Linux. Linux ist nicht ein Betriebssystem an sich, sondern eine andere freie Komponente eines vollständig GNU-System funktioniert nutzbar gemacht durch die GNU corelibs, Shell-Utilities und wichtige Systemkomponenten ein komplettes OS, die als von POSIX definiert.

Viele Computer-Nutzer laufen jeden Tag eine modifizierte Version des GNU-Systems, ohne es zu merken. Durch eine eigenartige Wendung der Ereignisse, die die Version der GNU heute weit verbreitet ist, wird oft als "Linux" genannt, und viele Nutzer sind sich nicht bewusst, dass es im Grunde das GNU-System, durch das GNU-Projekt entwickelt wurde.

Es ist wirklich ein Linux, und diese Leute benutzen es, aber es ist nur ein Teil des Systems die sie verwenden. Linux ist der Kernel: Das Programm in dem System, das die Maschinenressourcen zu den anderen Programmen zuordnet, die Sie ausführen. Der Kern ist ein wesentlicher Teil eines Betriebssystems, aber nutzlos für sich allein; sie kann nur im Rahmen eines vollständigen Betriebssystem funktionieren. Linux wird in der Regel in Kombination mit dem GNU-Betriebssystem verwendet: das ganze System ist im Grunde GNU mit Linux hinzugefügt oder GNU / Linux. Alle sogenannten "Linux" Distributionen sind wirklich Distributionen von GNU / Linux.

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>>56550369
What I've learned from /fglt/ so far

>Debian
nope
>Ubuntu
nope
>Mint
fuck no
>Fedora
nope
>openPEPE
idk?
>Arch
memes
>Angergos & Manjaro
why?
>Gentoo
install gentoo

>>56557070
What a surprise, it's all correct

>>56556918
>>56557052
saved

>>56557052
bad google translate translation
on the other hand not bad

>>56557070
Seems pretty accurate, Pepe.

free thread: >>56557125

>>56557070
>implying gentoo is a meme
It's just a good OS mate.

>>56557149
didn't mean to imply that. it is a good distro, despite the meme.

>>56556691
>How much time does it take to install packages on Gentoo?
How much time does it take to measure a piece of string?

>>56554276
It can along many other inits, but uses sysvinit by default.

>>56557203
I meant relative to other distros, like Arch