/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>56557125
Install Gentoo

>>56557160
very nice

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Reminder to visit the threads over /t/, new torrents added.

Also we need a thread on /vg/ for gaymers because year of the GNU/Linux desktop motherfuckers, here is the pasta
http://pastebin.com/7Xzi8e2H

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install FUNtoo

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install sourcemage

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Who /meta/ here?

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Is it just me or is the Ubuntu repository on the small side? Many of the packages I'm used to being available on other distros aren't are not on Ubuntu and I have to download/install from source. I thought Ubungo was supposed to be the most widely used distro, why does if have such a shit repo?

I solved my cdable_vars problem from the last thread, pretty interesting: there is a undocumented -v flag, which checks if a variable exists. I'm happy now. Here my result:

cd() {
    if [ -d "$1" ] || [ -v "$1" ]; then
        builtin cd "$1"
    else
        printf 'bash: cd: %s: No such file or directory\n' "$1"
        printf 'Would you like to create directory %s? [y/n] ' "$1"
        read opt; [ "$opt" = "y" ] && mkdir -p "$1" && cd "$1"
    fi
}

>>56557299
that pic reminded me I have to install gentoo in a vm

>>56557343
Why?

>>56557356
I install too much from source and want to test gentoo before make the jump

I am trying to install physlock in Gentoo, and when I

sudo emerge --ask physlock 

, Portage tells me:

 The following keyword changes are necessary to proceed:
 (see "package.accept_keywords" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
# required by physlock (argument)
=app-misc/physlock-0.5 ~x86

Use --autounmask-write to write changes to config files (honoring
CONFIG_PROTECT). Carefully examine the list of proposed changes,
paying special attention to mask or keyword changes that may expose
experimental or unstable packages.
 

In the package.use directory, I have a file called physlock. It contains this:

 >=app-misc/physlock-0.5 ~x86 

, but when I sudo emerge --ask physlock, I get the same thing as before.

How can I fix this?

>>56557305

That's what PPMs are for

>>56557273
What a horrible picture.

>>56557400
First off, it's called PPAs, next: dumb tripfag.

>>56557392
What you have isn't the same what it is telling you to have.
>Use --autounmask-write to write changes to config files
Also, just use that.

>>56557343
>>56557378
Just install it normally. Virtual machines complicate everything.

>>56557392
Do

emerge --autounmask-write --ask physlock

then

dispatch-conf

hit u (no return)
then

emerge --ask physlock

like usual

>>56557431
Why the tripfag contempt all of a sudden?
I honestly don't recall this from before 2012.

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If watching a compiler compile things tells you anything, it's how much shitty nigger-rigged C code is out there.

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>>56556496

>>56557052
please do not use bad google transaltions.

Ich möchte nur einmal kurz etwas einwerfen. Was sie als Linux bezeichnen ist in Warheit GNU/Linux, oder wie ich es vor kurzem zu bezeichen begonnen habe, GNU plus Linux. Linux an sich ist kein Betriebssystem, sondern eine weitere freie Komponente eines voll Funktionsfähigen GNU Systems, welches durch die GNU corelibs, shell utilities und andere wichtige System Komponente nützlich gemacht wird und ein Betriebssystem ist, wie es durch das POSIX definiert ist.
Viele Computer Nutzer benutzen eine modifizierte Version des GNU Systems jeden Tag ohne es zu bemerken. Durch eine Eigenartige Wendung wird die Version von GNU, die heute weit verbreitet ist, of Linux genannt und viele der Nutzer sind sich nicht bewusst, dass es eigentlich das GNU Syste, welches von dem GNU Projekt entwickelt wurde ist.
Es existiert wirklich ein Linux, und diese Leute benutzen es, jedoch handelt es sich dabei nur um einen Teil ihres Systems. Linux ist ein Kernel: das Programm im System welches die durch die Maschine bereitgestellten Ressourcen an andere laufende Programme verteilt. Der Kernel ist ein essentieller Teil eines Betriebssystems, ohne den Rest des Systems nutzlos; er kann nur in zusammenarbeit mit dem Rest des Systems funktionieren. Linux wird für gewöhnlich in Kombination mit dem GNU Betriebssystem verwendet: Das ganze System ist eigentlich GNU mit dem Linux Kernel, oder GNU/Linux. Alle so genannten Linux Distributionen sind in Warheit Distributionen von GNU/LINUX!

>>56557531
of course, many of us do this anon

>>56557500
dubs of truth

Can anyone help me with ebuilds? How do they work?

>>56557531
your HDD must have a winblows compatible filesystem, that is the only requirement

>>56557624
seconding this question

How much extra crap does LXDE come with? I want to install fedora lxde edition and just use openbox on it's own.

>>56557553
>>56557634
Setting up the partitions for my SSD to have both Windows and Ubuntu is easy, since Ubuntu's installer does pretty much everything.
But, how would I do up the HDD, though? Would I partition that as well? It's been a while since I've used Windows, and I just remember adding the whole drive to the system as drive D and not having the option of formatting a part of it.

>>56557460
>>56557477
I get that I can do --autounmask-write, but it will write exactly what I am adding manually to the file. Why doesn't this work when I manually add it?

>>56557460
>what you have isn't the same
You mean the >= sign? I have tried to enter it with just = and without anything before it. It still doesn't work.

I guess I will do autoummask and see what it writes and compare to what I was doing.

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Alright boys, here's a somewhat specific question:

I'm helping a friend buy a PC, he wants to run linux mint on it (he's a linux first timer).
I found a pretty good deal on a Dell Precision at a local store. It's a M4700. Thing is, there's two models: one with a Nvidia Quadro K1000M, and other with an AMD FirePro M4000. That's the only difference.

I have a dell latitude, and I've never had any troubles running mint on it.
Do you know if the Precisions are troublesome to set up?
Which card (brand, rather) do you recommend as hassle free (or as hassle free as laptop GPUs can get in relation to linux)?

>>56557676
use gparted and make your HDD FAT or some shit like that, unless it already works for windows, then just plug the shit and done

New to linux, I uninstalled the firefox that came with mint because it was an outdated version and I downloaded a newer version. However this firefox doesn't come up when I search firefox in the menu. How can I make mint know that this firefox is the right firefox?

>>56557704
not the answer you are looking but
http://linux-hardware.org/
http://linux-drivers.org/

>>56557734
you need to make a firefox.desktop on the applications directory Cinnamon uses

>>56557392
>keyword
belongs in the /etc/portage/package.keywords. not package.use

>>56557734
right click on the menu where you want the link

>>56557756
Sorry, do you mind explaining how to do this?

>>56557734
see
>>56557756
also: just copy an old one and edit it, it's pretty self explanatory

>>56557738
Oh sweet anon. This is perfect.
Thousand thanks.
The computer itself is not there, but the previous and newer models are, and they seemed to work well regardless of the card vendor.

>>56557796
you usually have a directory representing your applications displayed, use your file manager to go there, it might be bookmarked or you can google for the location

alternatively >>56557784 might work too

just don't forget to accept the option of firefox to make it your default browser

>>56557836
also this >>56557797, copy one and edit

>>56557797
>>56557784
>>56557756
Thanks guys I just configured the menus and added the downloaded firefox, had to assign an icon for it like three times lol but it worked out.

>>56557896
welcome to the world of unix, where everything is done by editing files

>>56557918
*except for systemd/linux

Is there a good guide for learning how to use the terminal

>>56557948
videos are good too >>>/t/713097

>>56557948
command line Pasta:
The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/

The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/

The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html

Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls

SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt

Google's Shell Style Guide:
https://google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml

The Linux Command Line - A Book By William Shotts:
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php

Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
http://www.commandlinefu.com/

Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/

Know what you are doing:
http://explainshell.com/

>>56557963
thanks man, I'm liking linux and the community so much I might install it on my main machine and not just my thinkpad

>>56557990
>I'm liking linux and the community
>and the community
are we changing into good guys? is this the apocalypse?

>>56557652
If it helps at all anon, https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Overlay/Local_overlay this worked for me

You have to follow it exactly every step though

>>56557985
thanks for this

>>56557431

You're right. I derped.

I'm trying to install Debian on my PC, everytime I start the graphical installer the computer freezes on the language seleccion screen (or perhaps the keyboard and mouse stop working)

Anyone could help me out here?

>>56558091
Download another iso or/and burn it in another CD, might be corrupted/scratched. All I can help.

>>56558119
I tried 2 DVDs from different version and I downloaded it again and tried on a USB stick.
Still no luck.

I recently switched from xfce+whatever their default wm is to i3 and I'm really liking all the keyboard shortcuts and such but I was wondering if there are any good noob-friendly ricing guides or maybe a list of recommended programs to install alongside it? I really miss having an icon displayed when I use the keyboard shortcuts to change brightness + volume, etc

>>56558172
by any chance you are not burning that with unetbootin?

>>56558184
You might want to take a look at this, anon

http://vivien.github.io/i3blocks/

>>56558200
I'm using Rufus for the USB and ImgBurn for the DVDs.
Unetbootin never worked for me in the past.

>>56557125
/sci/ fag here. Can someone explain to me why Fedora and others package "science," distributions with relatively unknown and extremely dated software suites? Are labs actually utilizing this antique code for production and why?

Can I change the playback speed of a video (making it shorter) with ffmpeg?

>>56558479
is for "stability", get shocked

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>imageboard
>nobody is posting pictures

>>56558612
who is the mascot between mozilla and tux?

>>56558612
BSD Looks worried about something.
>>56557963
how useful are these videos anyways? I'd like to know if I'd be better off just reading tutorials and playing before I waste the time and bandwidth downloading them

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>>56558637
some icedtea ugly penguin I think

>>56558644
you have videos for several levels, check the magnet content in your favorite program before downloading

>>56558612
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>>56558479
Fellow /sci/entist here. We used Scientific Linux in the lab I worked for 2 years ago. It was a common toolset generally accepted in the physics research I was doing at the time.

Since then I went into the private sector and we have macs and custom house software that we work on in tandem.

Personally I found the Linux systems in the old lab much nicer from the standpoint of predictability. Everything was rock solid stable and with macs things can go completely sideways at times.

I don't know anything about Fedora in particular, but if I had to guess those dated tools probably are the standard somewhere or other else they wouldn't bother to package them.

AFAIK most of the labs and companies my friends from school work with are running either Scientific, Red Hat, or Ubuntu Linux with a few others being Mac based like mine. Nobody seems to be doing anything with Windows.

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>>56558612
>tfw you realize that your license allows others to take your code and make it proprietary

>>56558788
saved

>>56558788
At least it's free software.

>>56557253
sure
>>>/vg/154523706

>>56558804
That's basically it. Sometimes you need a lesser copyleft so developers of proprietary crap can use your free libs and shit, which is obviously better than a program that is completly nonfree.
GNU provides the LGPL for such situations.

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>https://github.com/TidOS/TidOS

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I have looked, and I have no idea how to solve this. Please help

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My computer-illiterate brother claims his old netbook running a Debian netinstall with LXDE (that I set up for him) is "too slow". Whenever I used it it seemed fine though. It wasn't using much of his 2GB of RAM ever, and the intel atom seemed competent enough.

I'm not sure if it's due to the inescapable fact that he's browsing the internet and that is a performance hog, or if there's something I could improve for him. I run Debian netinstalls on all my machines, but admittedly none are as ancient as his netbook.

He's just annoying the crap out of me because he claims Windows XP was faster for him.

What would you do?

>>56558952
Can you give more of a description? What are you trying to do before this error happens?

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I was trying to run steam through the terminal with "STEAM_RUNTIME=0 steam"

running stem normally through terminal results in this

>>56558975
You could write a script that writes a line in a logfile when the cpu or ram goes high and let it run for a day so you know which programs cause it.

>>56559034
sorry, meant for>>56558996

>>56559034
After reading that people lost their home directories after running steam.sh, I'd never install steam on my machine tho.

>>56559076
old bug is old and is fixed

>>56559034
Try

find ~/.steam/root/ -name "libgpg-error.so*" -print -delete

>>56559172
returns

/home/nnautilus/.steam/root/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/amd64/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgpg-error.so.0
/home/nnautilus/.steam/root/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/amd64/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgpg-error.so.0.8.0
/home/nnautilus/.steam/root/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgpg-error.so.0
/home/nnautilus/.steam/root/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgpg-error.so.0.8.0

>>56559172
>>56559269
I forgot to mention, but I'm on Antergos

>>56557125

>freedom 4
>use it in proprietary stuff and make money from it
>oops, no you can't, get cucked

>>56559288
Can you run steam again and post output?

>>56559304
>implying you can't sell GPL software
But of course, that is not what you thinking, what you really mean is having a monopoly over the software and cuck everyone else.

>>56559323
the output is the same, with or without the STEAM_RUNTIME=0 part

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Where can I get decent, modern X11 cursors that weren't made for edgy teenagers?

>>56559339

Exactly, being able to exploit my creation for my exclusive benefit like any inventor or writer or creator, despite having used 0.01% of GPL code in it.

So I just did a fresh install of debian stable, and I changed the sources.list to be testing. BUT, when I run dist-upgrade, or try to upgrade at all, I get an error about how systemd would break rdnssd. Any else had a similar problem when switching to testing?

>>56559348
reddit com/ r/Steam/comments/4gbs1o/cant_open_steam_on_linux/

>>56559396
>"my creation"
respect the 0.01% of GPL code in it

>>56559374
https://www.box-look.org/browse/ord/latest/
https://www.gnome-look.org/browse/ord/latest/

>>56559509

>Because 0.01% of your code is GPL, 100% of your code is GPL now
>Take this free hammer, but everything you build with it belongs to the socialist cult of Lincucks

That's literally cucking. That's why the superior truly free license will always be the BSD.

>>56559424
Thank you very much. Don't know how I didn't find that myself, but it worked

>>56559562
low quality bait

>>56557125
Is it possible to install linux on an entirely separate hard drive than a windows 10 installation?

Is it possible to keep the windows 10 bootloader?

>>56559882
Yes, just partition the other hard disk for it and it's good to go. (I recommend disconnecting the hard disk with Windows just in case)

Yes, use EasyBCD to add a GRUB shortcut to Windows Boot Manager after you are done.

>>56559562
Well said.

Hi guys I'm downloading Ubuntu for the first time and know literally fucking nothing about linux any advice?

>>56559989
1. Persevere.
2. Understand that sometimes you need to split a task between 2-3 dedicated programs instead of using one massive generic one like you might be used to in Windows/Mac.
1. Persevere and be patient.

>>56559989
Well, get an USB stick and use Rufus to "burn" the ISO, after that, just boot the stick and check the interface, you can change it if you dislike too. After that, just install and use it, you'll learn as you need stuff.

My advice would be checking if the repository has the software you need before googling around for PPAs.

>>56560019
...w-what kind of task? I'm not even sure what that means.

>>56560027
what's a repository

>>56560036
>...w-what kind of task? I'm not even sure what that means.
Possibly everything. Foobar in windows for example. On linux you might be better to use a dedicated file tagger and organizer, something else to play music with, something else to convert to other formats, etc.

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>xfce screenshotter doesn't just come binded to fucking print screen
>I have to google for an hour to find out none of these niggers assume you don't know how to make print screen a button in the setting editor

Can someone PLEASE explain to someone who's apparently a fucking retard how to make PRINT SCREEN INVOKE THE FUCKING SCREENSHOT APP IN XFCE

FUCK

>>56557125
Why did it start from 0?

>>56560139
This is awesome man I enjoy really simple shit not being able to work

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>>56560267
>i'm so asshurt i forgot the picture

Please just tell me what the fuck I'm doing wrong or you're going to have an hero live in this thread

>>56560036
A repository is a place where you get apps, on Ubuntu, it works on terminal by using "sudo apt install programnamehere" or by using GNOME Software Center/Synaptic. It's almost like an app store.
>>56560139
Open the Keyboard settings, go to shortcuts, add a shortcut to "xfce4-screenshooter" and then map it to PrtScr there, it's really easy.

>>56560286
>>56560267
>>56560139
jk found it out myself you need to make sure it follows meme directories

>>56560317
>PrtScr

>>56560330
It's called PrtScr here, either way, I was just lazy.

>>56560175
2 reasons:

- in programming, you start counting from 0 since 0 is already something instead of nothing (null)

- freedom 0 is a freedom that every program should already provide out of the box (running it as you wish), imagine someone would build a chair but restrict the way you are allowed to sit on it

>>56558612
Its just an IRC channel

I just got linux mint 18 and I'm trying to install i3 for ricing purposes. I installed it, compton, nitrogen and a bunch of other packages but whenever I try to run it it tells me

ERROR: Another window manager seems to be running (X error 10)

How can I remove Muffin (Cinnamon's stock WM) and get mint to use i3?

>>56560139
why are you using xfconf? xfce has a proper keyboard control panel with shortcuts in it

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I need to crop a lot of pictures. What's a good & small utility for cropping? No, I don't want GIMP! Thanks for any recommendations.

I posted this in the previous thread, but didn't get an answer: I disabled sound in Wine using

winetricks sound=disabled

. I re-enabled it by using

winetricks sound=alsa

but am not getting sound in any of my wine applications, even after a reboot. Any suggestions?

>>56560894
>I disabled sound in Wine
No, that was more like uninstalling the sound drivers.

>>56561071
So then what do I do to reinstall the sound drivers?

>>56561106
No idea, time for you to find it out.

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Could I play vidya inWindows through a VM with this? I don't want to dualboot because I rarely play

>>56561191
Use Wine instead

>>56561191
Try using Wine. The current version is pretty damn good with anything using DX9.

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>>56561165
So I installed some sound drivers, but ended up running a

winetricks sound=pulse

and it's working now.

Is there any software for my ubuntu server which can detect when i connect my tablet via usb and sync contents of a folder on the table with a folder on the server?

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What's /fglt/ opinion on manjaro?
Specifically it's packages.
I've heard that after upgrade you end up with bricked OS.
And you have to run -Syyuu instead of -Syu

>install dualboot Elementary
>have to install driver because muh nvidia
>install fucks up
>black screen when I boot up
>have to wipe it then install it again
>it's sitting like that for two months now

who /lazy/

Im going to dual boot my main machine because gaymes. What should I use on my storage drives so I will be able to access them in Windows and have essentially native like support? I would rather not use NTFS in Linux other than for the partitions that are fully dedicated to Windows.

>>56562294
what i do is while i'm in windows, i boot up my linux system in a VM with the hdd's attached
this way i can access the disks via network (samba) shares

you can use virtualbox for this, it supports using physical disks though it has no gui for it

>>56562346
Interesting I might go that route if nobody has any better suggestions with less overhead

>>56562388
>less overhead
you could instead throw together a more basic linux install with just samba set up, if you prefer
or perhaps you could make a custom run level in your normal install that does just that

there's a couple options for more native/direct access, but only for a few types of setups, and i personally trust linux/samba to handle things better than some proprietary IFS driver

>>56562294
Use Ext2FSD to access EXT4 partitions.

I found a file called "config.bin" in my home directory.
How do I view what's inside to see if it system related or not?

>>56558637
the java thingy

Can anyone recommend a graphing calculator that doesn't have a load of dependencies? I'd use KAlgebra but I don't have KDE on my laptop.

>>56562747
$cat ~/config.bin

>>56562983
That's the only good one, anon

>>56562154
Keep your system uptodate. That way you don't brick your shit

I prefer #pacman -Syyu

>>56560880
GNOME-photos or Kolourpaint

>>56562991
I got gibberish
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'�qeӽx�A�'x������� �>Wj�� ��shg(��.��兀��fq��\|�r^�����R�/-a�i��3�t�
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>>56563036
Well, the file is in binary

>>56563048
How secure is this?
If it contains passwords?

>>56563078
Pretty secure, given that no one knows the encryption algorithm

>>56560880
What's wrong with these girls?

I'm using an old laptop with debian on it as a home server. It's connected to the network via wifi, but sometimes (once or twice a day) the connection to the internet (not the local network) breaks off and I have to run dhclient to regain connection.
I was thinking about making a cronjob to reconnect every five minutes, but that seems like the shitty hacky solution.

what would a sane person do in this situation?

>>56562154
>>56563018

>i prefer pacman -Syyu

Do you idiots know how to view the help pr man page to verify what those flags do and the differences between them? No, you just blindly adopt a stance that some other idiot posted on here.

>>56563337

Troubleshoot why the it loses connectivity. Use logs.

I don't understand how your specific computer can lose an internet connection, but still be connected to the router with other computers that have a connection.

>>56563356
>blindly
Not true

>>56563356
>-u
Pass this option twice to enable package downgrades.
This can be useful when the user switches from a testing repository to a stable one.
>-y
Passing two --refresh or -y flags will force a refresh of all package lists, even if they appear to be up-to-date.

How the fuck do I write, compile and run Lisp/Scheme in Linux
I've used gcc and know how that works, but I don't know how to do it with Scheme
I downloaded mit-scheme and emacs but I can't for the life of me find out how to do anything other than put single lines into the interpreter

>>56562049
is linux not capable of something as simple as this? ;_;

>>56564015
make a udev rule that runs a script or service which mounts the volume and rsyncs its contents

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>>56563367

>>56563356
You're an idiot if you don't run -Syyu.
99% of pacman screwing things up because idiots run -Syu instead.
The -Sy was meant to install new packages or upgrade specific packages.

Anyone else experiencing that some programs won't launch from time to time?
Sometimes when I start up a program it does not launch. It seems to try to load but it never fully does.
Problem is inconsistent as hell and only occurs occasionally and does so both on my Antergos and my Ubuntu machine (both running Gnome).
Sometimes I can start the program in question from terminal. sometimes not.
Any idea where to look or what is causing it? A solution even better.

>>56564529
Install Windows and stop wasting your life with this shit.

>>56564350
Are you trolling senpai? That's some pretty retarded shit right there.

>>56564542
So you join Linux threads and tell people to install Windows and to stop wasting their lives?
Seems like a perfectly good way to spend your own life. You go to Windows-forums and tell them to install Linux as well?

>>56564619
Windows users rarely have forums because they don't emotionally invest themselves in their operating systems. They just use them to get work done.

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>>56564145

>>56557253
>open /t/
>first thread is about tranny porn

>>56564638
Like what you are doing ITT right now?

lmao NEET

>>56564884
I'm afraid "i know u r but wat am i" isn't going to save you, anon. Go outside. Talk to someone. It isn't too late.

>>56564904
I'm afraid "i know u r but wat am i" isn't going to save you, anon. Go outside. Talk to someone. It isn't too late.

I need a live ISO with kernel 4.7.3 or at least 4.6.7 [EOL] bootable from USB.
Is there such a thing?

>>56564951
Arch based distros or Arch
Fedora

>>56564951
why not just install a distro to your flash drive? that way you can keep it up to date and install whatever you want permanently to it

>>56564951
Fedora

>>56565004
Will do if everything works with these kernels.

>>56564865
Yeah, it suck. Hiroyuki should make a separate board, the current /t/ is filled with stuff sane people doesn't even want to see.

why is the fish man and info page such a stub
how can anyone use this, do they read the source code to find out how this thing works?

>>56565271
Manpages are useless

>>56565289
bash has an easily searchable manpage that provides a newbie with most things he needs to know.
fish's manpage is spartan and basically forces you to read their online documentation or copy some pajeet's scripts from stackoverflow
manpages were standardized so the user doesn't have to look at a uniquely shitty website for every command he installs and yet here we are.

>>56564865
>>56565206
Insecure about your sexuality?

God damn, Arch is so broken and shit. First they link sh to bash, making POSIX scripts slower as they are meant to be and now I realized they link python to python3 instead of python2 (like every other distro).

>Any program requiring Python 2 needs to point to /usr/bin/python2, instead of /usr/bin/python, which points to Python 3. To do so, open the program or script in a text editor and change the first line. The line will show one of the following: #!/usr/bin/env python
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Python
This breaks all python2 scripts with a syntax that differs from python3. Well done.

Is there a way to have a command executed upon opening a specific terminal emulator?
say I want to execute it if I open mate-terminal, but not when I open lxterminal?

how do I make urxvt show IME input/conversion mode in the terminal? Default it just displays nothing till I finalize conversion, then inputs the final characters.

Which one is better:

>adding acpi_osi= to kernel line
or
>binding a keyboard shortcut to xbacklight
... to control screen brightness?

Why are my keys automatically recognized when I use the kernel line (empty acpi_osi)? I resorted to the keyboard shortcut solution for now, but that one is also confusing for other reasons.

>>56566028
There probably is for some terminals in particular, at least.
Im not sure if there is in general, though

>>56566014
old news
>Build Fails on ArchLinux due to Python version mismatch
https://github.com/atom/apm/issues/95

>>56566014

Python 3 is the default on Arch. It will be the default on Ubuntu too. I think it's also the default on Fedora already.
If your program requires Python 2, you have to set it explicitly in the shebang. I don't see what the controversy there is. Apart from you being a luddite and not moving on with the times (using Python 2).

>>56566014
>>56566076
You just had to listen. Arch is a meme.

>>56566028

Which command? How? State your use case, because it's very vague.

>>56566099
It's not about moving with the times, it's about breaking standards. Python is python, Python3 was invented after and therefore it is explicitly declared as python3. Linking python to python3 breaks older scripts.

>>56566099
while I agree that people should move on to python3, I'd say that today everyone should declare either python2 or python3 and don't use just only "python" anymore, but python should always link to python2 for compatibility

ach linking to python3 is just living on the edge autism and breakage

Dumb question. I'm using Debian testing with Mate. I'm getting sick of things breaking after doing updates. I never had this problem before, but someone over there is letting some terrible bugs through. Right now I can't open Caja at all.

So I'm thinking about going to Debian stable. Will my Maxwell Nvidia card work? Do they backport the Nvidia driver package? I know that for months Maxwell cards didn't work unless you pulled everything from unstable.

If not, I can just use Mint, but I hate all the bloat packages. In Debian I just start with a minimal install.

>>56566131

Read the [0]this, it explains how to deal with this. There is no "breaking" of standards there.
No scripts will "break". Any distribution which switched to Python 3 being "the default" will adjust their packages appropriately and things will work. A problem arises when you start packaging things yourself. A person in such a position surely is smart enough to change one little line. If you just want to run a Python 2 script, surely you are smart enough to type "python2 your_script.py" instead of "python your_script.py". If not, then you have way bigger problems to worry about.

tl;dr: you're an idiot who just wants to stir controversy and be mad. Just like this guy who uses "meme" as an universal word. I suggest you kill yourselves or at least stop posting.

[0] https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/

>>56566184

Name one package inside Arch's repository that is "broken" or is "breaking" due to this.

>>56566259
I could write a funny python2 only script which is incompatible with python3, declare it as python and post is here and everyone could run it except Arch users, because only Arch links to python3 instea of python2. How does it feel?

ITT: archfags can't accept the truth, part 2

>>56566348
not him buy I could simply edit your script and change python to python2 and it would work

I have a Nvidia 210. I'm on Arch with Nouveau and Xfce. Things are perfect excepting that, many times, it gets stuck at Triggering uevents... when booting. I already tried many things, even the proprietary driver, did a complete reinstall yesterday. It happens just with this video card. I have a GeForce 9400GT and it runs fine. Please help me somehow.

>>56566436
That's right.

>>56566436
>needing to jump through hoops to get basic things working

>>56566121
I managed to get it to work
I wanted to have different keybinds for opening a local terminal and a predefined local server (my home server)
I just called mate-terminal with the -e option in my lxde-rc.xml. now everytime I press the associated keybind, mate-terminal opens, runs the login script and I have a terminal ssh'd into the local server. Surely there are more elegant solutions but I don't care enough about elegance to look for those.

>>56566348

I asked you name a package which is broken and you replied with something totally unrelated.

Regarding your stupid question: it would feel normal. Because the person would just have to add 1 modification to their command.

>>56566370
I guess the reason Arch is popular is the same why Mint is popular - monkeys recommend it to other monkeys.

>>56566521

>Surely there are more elegant solutions but I don't care enough about elegance to look for those.
There aren't.

lxde-rc.xml is Openbox's main configuration file (LXDE uses Openbox as its window manager). That's the file where you define keyboard shortcuts and all you did was define one.
I still don't understand why you're using 2 different terminal emulators (mate-terminal and lxterminal).

>>56566525
Well if it doesn't bother you to have to do so, okay. But how about other users who don't know about said incompatibility? Do think users should need to search through the wiki to find out that Arch breaks the standard and that they need to edit said line?

>>56566600
just give up, user of distro X will always defend distro X, no matter how much is going wrong

>>56566592
I want them to look differently so I can easily see which is the remote system and which is the local one.
There might be a terminal which lets me do that via command line options, but just configuring mate-terminal to have a blue background and lxterminal to have a red one lets me avoid reading through docs.

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>>56566538
>I guess the reason Arch is popular is the same why Mint is popular - monkeys recommend it to other monkeys.
Hey, I took offense to that. Mini is popular because it works and looks nice and Cinnamon is one of the best DE out there.

Arch is popular among NEETs who love wasting their time on troubleshooting all the time and they feel superior because they wasted an hour of their life copy/pasting commands out of a Wiki. Instead of pressing "Install" like everyone else has done when they installed Linux (them and Gentoo users are the worst). They think they understand the OS better than you yet they don't. They're just more delusional.

>>56566671
Mint is worse than Arch. Read this: https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/

>>56566671
hey, i took offense to that

when i did this install of arch, it still had an installer

>>56566671
When Mint will have everything up to date, AUR, pacman and not a ton of preinstalled packages with dependency hell, I'll use it. It's more about choice, ignore the retards. I used Mint and I don't like it that much.

>>56566671
There's a difference between Arch and Gentoo. You get Arch because you don't want to be called a babby, but you get Gentoo because you actually want to build your system from ground up and have full control.

>>56566733
>ground up
I dont have 2 days to compile a 1mb binary
>full control
Every distro you use, you have full control over, unless you're a lazy fuck, which i assume you are, and you only use DE's
>pacman -S binary
>1s later installed

How do i add subtitle in MPV?

>>56566721
please read >>56566695
really, I'm not out for memeing Mint users, but Mint is really the worst distro currently around

>>56566655

Why don't you utilize the PS1 prompt for that? Make it show the hostname, change the color of the prompt or just one part of that.
Any of those solutions is more elegant than using 2 different terminal emulators. That's just ridiculous.

>>56566772
Usually just rename it to the same filename (except extention ofc), mpv will automatically load it.

>>56566773
Mint was good but is not anymore. Cinnamon may be ok. What I really don't like about Mint is their view on security and mixing Ubuntu and Debian packages. I wish they abandoned Mint and focused full time on Cinnamon or contribute to something else. The X-apps is a stupid idea. Even if Arch may have elitists and autists in the community, at least everything is organized and maintained. I care about updates too much. I think I need them because updates means new features and bugs fixed. The kernels are even more important.

>>56566671
>install any other distro
>run the following

aptitude install cinnamon || \
dnf install cinnamon || \
pacman cinnamon || \
emerge --ask gnome-extra/cinnamon || \
yast install cinnamon

you now have a non-shit version of Mint

>>56566655
>different background color based on something
This is a cool idea, I actually want to script it right now for myself (for root/user). Thanks.

>>56566797
tell me anon, is it just me or on mpv videos works best?
I have full had monitor, when i watch full hd video on vlc, it get pixelized, stutter and shit.
On mpv everything works fine

>>56566776
I have tons of DEs installed anyways and having the whole thing have a different background seems more aesthetically pleasing to me than just changing the PS1 to a different color.
also I'd have to change the root's PS1 as well and if I decide to rice my prompt I'll have to change 4 PS1 variables just to keep things consistent.

>>56566655
zsh

>>56566978
memeshell

>>56567024
>fuzzy completion
>far more extendability
>literally works for anons use case

>>56567078
Can all be done with bash if you would read the docs.

>>56567089
Why would such basic features not be enabled by default then?

>>56566978
how does zsh help here?
the default prompt from oh my zsh, which every zsh user seems to praise is just the exit status and the working directory
If i wanted to rice the prompt, I could easily do so on bash as well by setting PS1 to something like "[\u@\h]\$ ".

Newfag here. I was trying to jump on linux but I was stuck at certain problems.
>How do you change proxy in linux?
>How do you easily change DNS in linux? The problem is I live in shitty country and ISP here use transparent DNS.
>How do you use wine? It gave me error every time I opened it.
Back then I used kubuntu, but because of those reason above I jumped back to windows.

>>56567192
less bloat

>>56567237
fuzzy completion is bloat?

>>56567242
yes, I want complete stuff I write, not stuff I dont write

>>56567254
>not knowing what fuzzy completion is
Go back to bed granpa, ill get your prune juice

>>56564865
Link, please? I could not find the thread.

>>56566889
Done.

colorize() {
    if [[ -n "$DISPLAY" ]]; then
        # Not a TTY.
        if [[ "$EUID" -eq 0 ]]; then
            # Root.
            printf "\033]11;[025]#8C172D\007"
        else
            # User.
            printf "\033]11;[100]#111111\007"
        fi
    fi
}
export PROMPT_COMMAND=colorize

red bg for root, black for user
maybe someone has fun with it

>>56567352

That won't work over ssh, since $DISPLAY isn't set.

>>56567262
Fun fact: zsh is only 1 year younger than bash

>>56567510
ssh -X gives you a display.

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>>56566370

>>56567595
Dont use outdated insecure scripts?

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>>56567595
>so guys, I know you're all mad because I broke all your scripts, but fuck you, I don't care, if you want to make them work, fix it yourself

Welcome to Arch Linux

>>56567591

But he didn't say that he wanted to use X forwarding.

>>56567650
Archfags being cucks is not new. Read: https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

>Arch is the *opposite* of a user-centric freedom. The opinion of users
>has no weight here. Only the developers have an opinion, and there
>aren't voting systems as there are in Debian. Technical decisions are
>made based on merit via consensus among the developers, not popularity.

>>56567650

Did Arch Linux piss in your well or did you just get banned from an Arch Linux related IRC channel or forum? Or did your mother's love affair that caused your parent's divorce use Arch Linux?

>>56567722
You know man, like, you dont have to like use arch, no one is forcing you too man.

Its just like, your opinion, is like deluded man

>>56567739

I guess people are just pissed about the edgy community.
>he is too stupid to install arch, kek
>he is using a DE, kek
etc

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>>56567650
kek'd hard. Arcfags are the biggest retards on the planet. Arch is like the APple of Linux world... they break things constantly (MUH AUDIO JACK) yet Archfags still worship it.

>>56567813
I personally dislike how fags praise Arch for things that Arch simply isn't such as "lightweight", "simple", and "The Arch Way". In reality, Arch has a lot of problems because devs do what they want, it's bloated more like any other distro and far from being simple if you need to fix stuff like >>56567595 to get basic functionality.

The whole arch cult is just about the non-existent installer, that makes you look cool.

>>56567908
>using arch 9 years
>dont have xorg.conf
>x has never broke
>dual monitors work out of the box
>alsa pics up onboard audio, and usb audio, with no config
>litterally everything works

You're mixing up incompetent users who would fuck up on any distro.

Also, you'll notice most of the shit posting is from people using arch in a vm, who have an uptime less then an hour.

>>56567991
I agree that the Arch broke X thing is actually a meme. I know about the update that broke X once, and it never happend again after.

Sadly this fact doesn't magically wipe all other problems users need to deal with by using Arch.

>>56568027

Name some problems.

>>56567916
>arch
>bloated
how? it comes blank, you install programs yourself

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>>56567916
It's a NeetOS: tons of babysitting for the sake of wasting your life away.

There are people who install an OS to take care of it and learn as much as possible about it by being hands-on and there are people who install an OS to get shit done and the OS is secondary to their work.

Say you're a programmer... your paycheck depends on you delivering code. No one cares what OS your'e using. If your'e spending 30% of the time dealing with pointless OS shit that should just work, you're wasting your time that you could be using on important things.

Installing and using one of these "bleeding edge" and "rolling release" distros is fun for a week but then you wake up one day and your computer doesn't work right anymore and you can't get your job done.

That's why I stay the fuck away from anything "rolling release" and "quick from upstream". That shit is more pain than it's worth. It's like using "insider previews" from MS.

Just let these idiots waste time and beta test all this shit. I actually appreciate what they're doing but I think they're fucking morons for wasting their time in this way. But hey, idiots do useful shit sometime.

how do you permanently set

xset s #

?

setting the screensaver time only lasts as long as the session does

>>56568110

Xorg configuration file or run the command every time you log in automatically.

>>56568104
>>56567916
>>56567908
>>56567650

>i get all of my knowledge from internet myths and then parrot them to feel superior and to fake being a technologically savvy person

>>56568096

He's talking about the fact that Arch doesn't do any package splitting like other distributions (splitting libraries for example).

>>56568096
It begins with the kernel. "Keep it simple" means for Arch: Enable ALL kernel modules, no matter if the user actually needs them or not (full botnet).

Then the packages. The reason why Archusers always have a low package count is because on Arch, a package contains EVERYTHING, docs, source headers, binaries, libs, etc, while one, for example Debian, you have -dev packages in case you want to compile something. So when you install a program on Arch Linux, you install more MB than actually needed. Also, dependencies aren't made optional whenever possible.

So in the beginning you have a blank system, but at the end of the day you have more bloat than on other systems.

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>>56568149
>no arguments
>it's all just a meme
Oh well.

>>56568149
>internet myths
Those people provided links, screenshots, all you provide is "I say so".

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"muh bloat"

1.56GB

>>56568104
interesting view. what distro would you recommend for every day use as a programmer?

so i like the idea of having all your programs or programs of your choosing in a sort of start menu/not desktop icons somewhat like windows now has but without the tiles which is obviously designed for tablets.

does Linux have something like this?

>>56568190
>>56568199

I am not going to post arguments for the tenth time, it's pointless anyway.

>provided links
There is only one link by some idiot who doesn't know what the word "cuckold" means. His link is also mostly irrelevant to the discussion and he has been posting it constantly for the past weeks. I don't think he even knows what his point is.

>>56568266
How would we know what "windows now has"?

>>56568266
Openbox has very comfy pipe-menus, It's like a context menu with all programs sorted in categories. That said, I think most DEs have a windows-like start menu, cinnamon, mate, xfce.

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>>56568234
Ubuntu or Mint. Why? Because 99% of Linux software on Github is tested on either MacOSX or Ubuntu.Aand instructions on how to get it running under Linux are for Ubuntu. Mint is based on Ubuntu and has a nicer GUI but everything still works.

There's really no point on using "bleeding edge" shit unless you're a Linux developer.

>>56568266
short answer: yes

>>56568227

>uptime 1m

Did you just boot into your dedicated GNU/Linux partition just to show off your epically riced desktop environment?

>>56568320
It's a virtual machine and the point was to dispel the "Ubuntu/(X) distro is so bloated" myth.

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help guys. i want to automatically optimize the PNG's that come from my screenshots (gnome-screenshot). But for some reason i cant |PIPE| the file output into the optimizer. i even tried using clip board and xclip to do it. and STDOUT/STDIN.

Help please?

>>56568293
>https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html
>Arch dev explains why Arch Way is a meme
>explains why Arch is not lightweight
>explains why Arch is not simple
>explains why Arch doesn't care about users
>is irrelevant
ok

>>56568234

It doesn't matter, idiot. Everything runs on every distribution.

>>56568306

>software on github
>github is the place where all software is hosted

You're even worse than those people who think that Steam is PC games.

>There's really no point on using "bleeding edge"
What a ridiculous and subjective statement. There is need, because some people like utilizing the latest versions of the libraries they're using.

>Aand instructions on how to get it running under Linux are for Ubuntu.
It's all the same, idiot. The only thing which differs is that they maybe list Ubuntu package names (which are just Debian package names). Only an idiot wouldn't crumble under the pressure of having the find out the package name on his distribution.

>>56568376
Blanket "bleeding edge" is retarded and there's no justification for it.

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So this is basically a fresh install of debian, installed muh IDEs and libraries and shit for them, and suddenly my sound stopped working. reinstalled oss4 and asla shit and now I get an error on reconfigure. what the fuck is this shit? why can't sound drivers just not be a nigger on linux? how fix

>>56568306
>99% of Linux software on Github
Which is pretty unrelated to your programming though.

>Aand instructions on how to get it running under Linux are for Ubuntu
Installing software is mostly unrelated to programming. And what you need will be in the official repos anyway.
And areas where you actually need to get something to run just have instructions for Windows.
The only thing left here are libraries, which can be pretty fucked up.

>Mint is based on Ubuntu and has a nicer GUI
Which you could install on Ubuntu anyway.

>>56568392

I like having the latest stable released software from upstream. There's my and many people's justification for it. Are you seriously trying to pass off your subjective preference as an objective reason?

>>56568348
use /tmp/

import -quality 100 -window root /tmp/scrot.png
optimize /tmp/scrot.png

>>56568411
>latest
>stable
Choose one.

>>56568306
Mint is broken and insecure. Everyone who recommends it is a tech illiterate.

>>56568401

>asla-base
That's just the tip of the iceberg of your stupidity.

>>56568427
"latest stable" is the newest "stable" version in case there is more than one.
It does not mean it's untested or some shit.

>>56568427

Yes, that's what stable means. You probably think that Debian invented the word stable and that stable should be defined by their stable branch. Stop being an idiot.

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>>56568458
Got anything to help or just doing to be a cunt? Because I'm getting actual system errors trying to repackage shit and then nothing for alsa

>>56568493
>dat live stream

>>56568525
which i CANT HEAR ;_;

>>56568529
It's a blessing in disguise anon.
Why don't you just set up alsa manually, follow a/the wiki and post when you encounter something which doesn't work.

>>56568546
>let me know when something doesn't work

Okay

It doesn't work

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>>56568475
>>56568476
>switching to python3 global (lol)
>literally no difference between testing repo and stable because in testing "if upstream considers it stable, so do we"
>somehow this magpie-like philosophy will produce stable systems with LESS testing because magic
Archfaggots have brain cancer.

>>56568584
You forgot the first step hun. Typing random incomplete and misspelled commands in as root isn't setting up alsa manually.

>>56568177
>kernel
>botnet
Not how it works
Who dosent compile their own kernel?

>docs
/etc/makepkg.conf
OPTIONS=(strip !docs noman nodoc purge !debug)
>libs
Nope
>source headers
Nope.
>deps
Nope.You literally install what deps you want.

>>56568177
>"Keep it simple" means for Arch: Enable ALL kernel modules
>on Arch, a package contains EVERYTHING

That definitely does simplify things. As long as you have space for storage (and because pacman is the fastest package manager), bloat has more pros than cons. People just need to stop calling Arch lightweight.

>>56568594
Come back laughing after you had to backport shit from testing to stable.

>>56568493
Perhaps check your spelling
Also
oss, get rid of it

>>56568355
Get absolutely destroyed, archfags

>>56568598
Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for reading: No such file or directory

>>56568690
And which steps are you following?

>>56568613
I like how Debian does it.
>kernel comes completly deblobbed as in freedom
>if user needs a proprietary module, he can install it automatically or manually
This way you have exactly what you need.

>>56568711
It's less work for me to rjust reinstall the whole distro then doing all this stupid horseshit.

>>56568724
>i like my sjw disto

>>56568729
ok bye

>>56568742
Whatever makes you feel save again.

>>56568744
Especially with worthless people like you who pretend to be helpful then have no commands to say. Go back to writing shell scripts laddo.

I need to feed each line from file as input to a script, how?

>>56568773

while read line; do
    <do some stuff with "$line">
done < filefulloflines.txt

Why is Linux audio such a pain in the ass, anyway?

>>56568860
It isn't.

>>56568870
That hasn't been my experience to be honest.

>>56568860
If you have problems, ask, but fuck off with your memes.

>>56568860
What is "Linux audio"?

>>56568879

That's the same as if a retarded virgin said that sex is bad because "it's been his experience" with it.

>>56568759
>spkg
>--reconfigure
>--reconfig
>oss
>alsa
>start from the beginning anon and stop typing random commands, tell us where you get stuck
>gives output from some random command
>hurr you worthless people won't give me the right commands
Kill yourself you fucking retard.

>>56568896
the linux audio player, made by linus torvalx

>>56568833
I'm trying to make a script to load all the trackers from a file to transmission-daemon, here is what I have thus far

#!/bin/bash
# Purpose: Add trackers in batch to transmission daemon

torrent=0

if [ -f $2 ]
then
        while read LINE; do
                while [ $torrent -le $1 ]; do
                        transmission-remote -t$torrent -td $2
                        torrent=$((torrent + 1))
                done
        done < $2
else
        while [ $torrent -le $1 ]; do
                transmission-remote -t$torrent -td $2
                torrent=$((torrent + 1))
        done
fi

>>56568924
friendly thread

>>56568860
it's not
just works on my machine

New friendly thread: >>56568940

>>56568939
This is 4chan dear, go to plebit if you want a hug.

>>56568900
More like someone ranting about all woman having STD's and the other guy not catching any thinking he was just spouting memes.

>>56568936
always quote your variables so they don't break at strings that include spaces

Reminder to people wanting sound on their computer without the insanity of pulseaudio, here is how:

FIrst, you need to erase .asounrc in your home and asound.conf in /etc, after that purge pulseaudio. And when I mean purge, I mean it.

Then, you need to identify your available devices in /proc/asound/modules, just

cat /proc/asound/modules

, Here is my /proc/asound/modules

0 snd_usb_audio
1 snd_hda_intel


Now put them in order in the file /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, by assign an index from -2 to 2, making the preferred output the lowest number. As I know I have two devices I want the one that says usb because that is my headphone, so in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf I put

options snd_usb_audio enable=1 index=0
options snd_hda_intel index=1


notice the index.

Restart the computer and you have perfect sound, as well in the browser.

Opensuse Leap 4 and something

Installed Nvidea drivers. Now tty1-tty6 are fucked up ― giant fonts that take half of the screen.
Setting fonts as smaller ones make giant letters become large and unreadable.

Have been fighting with this thing for a couple of hours. I don't know what to do

How do I set the paper icon theme as fallback in KDE? I'm using the arc icon theme right now and in GTK options, there is no paper theme even though it is installed.

I have a few scripts in my Documents folder. script1, script2, scrpt2.sh
Why does it fucking refuse to acknowledge these exist?
When I type 'mv script1 script 2 scrpt2.sh ~/' it just says there Is no such file or directory, for all of them.