/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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Help me set this anons, it wont work

>>56541224
How do i get adobe flash player to work on Opera Linux?

What is a good Tiling/Dynamic WM that's easy for a first timer to learn?

Anon with the non-posting system from the last thread. Lesson learned, as always, the answer is reseat the RAM.

>>56541315
i3

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>>56541316

>>56541308
There is no reason to use flash anymore

>>56541308
Why would you need flash?

Anyways, the NPAPI plugin for flash is at version 11, get chrome if you must use flash on GNU/Linux.

>>56541315
awesome-wm. Usable out of the box with no tweaking while still having Nice Things such as a menu (which can integrate with Debian's menu on Debuntu systems).

>>56541385
>>56541376
can't watch html 5 youtube vids and can't watch embedded mp4's - i was told using flash would fix it.

>>56541283
I don't actually get it but I think this will help
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/android#Android_development

>>56541402
What version of opera are you using? goddamn.

>>56541431
The latest x64 one lol

Help.
So i have linux mint system with i3 installed but I can't get my second monitor to work, even using cinnamon.
My main monitor is running off hdmi from my r9 290x and my second monitor is running on hdmi from my motherboard, presumably using the i7 6700k iGPU.

it is detecting the 2nd display, but all it shows is a small green circle. very odd.

Anybody know how i can get this to work?

>>56541436
You youtube-dl to watch youtube with mplayer/vlc.

>>56541437
You have to plug both HDMI cords into the r9 290x

>>56541455
I usually just launch firefox instead - but it is buggin me and i was hoping threre was a way around .

>>56541459
290x only has one hdmi port, just werks on windows (sad to say, as windows is a shitfest, so at this point i desperately want to leave)

Unbound is configured for dnssec, dnscrypt and dns cache,(i think, all the headers show it is), then have polipo configured via each program proxy settings. It this the correct flow/order for a proper setup?

>>56541521
Would you like to share what you did? I mean like from complete newfags' POV?

>>56541544
I configured dnscrypt to connect to one of the given proxies from the master list
I have dnscrypt-proxy forwarded to unbound, which is running on port 53.
unbound has generated its master keylist and supports dnssec with these auth keys present
polipo is setup to cache websites,via a proxy(8123) which i have set in every application i want to use it on(chromium, firefox)

Can anyone give a valid non-meme reason to use anything but Ubuntu?

>>56541688
your peers will look down on you

>>56541689
That's a meme...

So I just downloaded Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie) 64-bit, oddly enough sudo package was not downloaded with the install.

When I try to apt-get install sudo I get the following message in my terminal.

"Media change: please insert the disc labeled
'Debian GNU/Linux 8.5.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20160604-15:35'
in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter"

Seeing as I used a bootable USB to install I don't know what I should do here.
Help pleaase?

Beginner-friendly distro for replacing Windows?

>>56541708
Ubuntu

>>56541688
Unless libre matters to you, then no. If it does, Trisquel is libre Ubuntu.

>>56541731
Is it secure from spying?

any of you anons have an acer aspire e 15 and when got to install or try ubuntu got a black screen and nothing happens?

>>56541814
OpenBSD

>>56541699
Edit your repositories and remove the install media. It's trying to pull from the disk (set as one of the repositories) but since it's not there Debian can't find it. Afterwards su, then apt-get update, apt-get install sudo and you should be all set after you edit the sudoers file.

>>56541825
did you burn the .iso to a CD/DVD?

>>56541840
Thanks! I stepped out for a moment so when I get home I'll give this a try.

Haven't been on /g/ in years till a few days ago and I really like this thread. Actually get useful help instead of shit.

>>56541688
Install gentoo

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>>56541875
No prob

Here, forgot pic. The two at the top are the ones you need to uncheck/delete

>>56541698
is a businessman not wearing a $3 plastic watch to a board meeting a meme too?

>>56541459
do i really need to buy an adapter for this shit ;-;
don't get me wrong I hate windows, but im not gona spend money to leave.

>>56541894
Poor analogy given that top level execs at Google are using Ubuntu right now.

>>56541961
are your peers top level google execs?

>>56541980
If my peers are /g/ I assume they're mostly nEETs.

>>56542008
then you have your answer

>>56542050
What did he meant by this /g/?

>>56542133
He meant nobody cares.

>>56542198
Oh.

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>>56541894
>>56541961
>>56541980
>>56542008
>>56542050
>>56542133
>>56542198
>>56542433
Nice faggots, real nice.

I want to install linux (elementary OS/ubuntu) to a usb 3.0 flash drive. I did get it working, but when I booted up windows with the flash drive plugged in, it messed up the EFI boot folder.

I don't understand this aspect very much, so, what is something I can do to prevent windows from damaging my linux drive? Also, what do I set manually in the partition install screen so I can allocate half of the drive to something I can share between windows and linux?

>>56542480
Why not just install whichever distro you want and use grub to choose which OS to boot instead?

>>56542523
I don't want a menu beforehand, I just want to choose from the bios

>>56542529
Why? That's strange

>>56509326
>>56509463
>>56509653
>>56526681
pls help.

>>56542916
that's just my preference

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I'm a newish linux user (about half a year) in dire need of a good backup solution. I lost my entire system (nothing that can't be replaced, but still) to a partitioning error and essentially had to rebuild my workstation from scratch and I want to avoid doing it again. Currently have my 500gb system drive partitioned into 2 equal parts, and just essentially want to make a "restore point" for my current system that a can use in case i ever bork something in the future.

What are some of my options?

In case it matters, pic related.
(running slackware64 14.2 on a thinkpad t540p)

>>56541402
youtube.com/html5
Show a screenshot of that
A solution would be to use firefox.

>>56541315
dwm imo, it has a great tutorial/manual.
>>56543156
rsync is the go-to backup tool for pretty much everyone on gnu/linux

>>56541814
Tails
Qubes
hardened debian or gentoo
You are not safe from targeted spying, only from some parts of mass spying.
>>56541911
What other ports do your gpu and your monitor have? any cables laying around? maybe someone has a good idea.
which monitor is it?

sabyon?

>>56543369
Mass spying is the only kind the vast majority of people have reason to worry about being safe from. Not using spyware as your OS Is already a pretty good step for that.

>>56543302
thanks

hopefully this does the trick

rsync -aAXv --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/backup/*","/lost+found"} / /backup

>>56542971
Right, but that kind of subterfuge often causes you to run into issues, which is why I asked you're doing it.

Run live distro(s) only, one per USB stick/CD/DVD or legitimately install Linux to hard disk, using grub as a boot loader to choose between them. That would be my suggestion.

>>56541699
Next time you install debian and want sudo just do not put in a root password. You can change your repos by editing /etc/apt/sources.list (need to.be root or use sudo) if you didn't know.

>>56541825
Unetbootin?

>>56541688
Free software guidelines, defaults, preferred release models, wanting to support the original distros instead of based on things, not trusting canonical...

When using the vga kernel option, what determines which particular mode (i.e. combination of resolution and refresh rate) will be used? On an oldish system with a CRT monitor some very crappy refresh rates are being used, for example with vga=771 the mode is 800x600@56Hz, and with vga=773 it's 1024x768@87Hz INTERLACED (so I guess the effective refresh rate is only about half of that). How to persuade the kernel (or whatever is responsible) to use something reasonable like 800x600@85Hz for vga=771 etc. instead of the crappy low refresh and/or interlaced modes?

Has hardware acceleration gotten working in chrome with intel chips? Watching html5 1080p youtube would always drive my CPU up too high under Linux.

>>56543672
Btw it's an old kernel and KMS isn't supported, so the "video" kernel option can't be used.

>>56541688
are you trying to learn how to use linux?
no?
use ubuntu/mint/etc

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>>56543264

>>56543742
I do not know how to enable mediasource and h264 in opera, only firefox. Maxbe you can find out about it with searx. But flash is not the solution.

why do people use linux when there are so many problems of stuff not working how they were supposed to?

>>56543789
It's better than being spied on using windows 10. Secondly most problems people encounter are user errors and not Linux's fault.

>>56543700
>the learning linux meme
Shit-tier bait.

>>56543789
Everything works for me and i realized that most problems that i had when i started were caused by me or low quality programs that i used at the time because shills convinced me the alternatives were bad. Now that i only use FOSS everything is good.

>>56543820
not everyone is an end user, anon

How do you become root from a live CD? I want to edit my partitions but it won't let me access the harddrive from my USB system rescue cd.

>>56543818
>>56543833
but it has problem with drivers. I have no idea about how I am supposed to fix this >>56542918

>>56543782
I figured it out - all i had to do was

– opera:flags#enable-webassembly

and

– opera:flags#enable-webrtc-h264-with-openh264-ffmpeg

Youtube website still says i'm missing h.264 - but i am now able to watch the video that said error

If it weren't for you i wouldn't have solved this. Thanks

>>56543672
>>56543684
Bump. Anyone has an idea what determines the particular mode (i.e. refresh rate) getting used with a given vga=xxx option (the "xxx" only seems to determine resolution and bit depth, but not refresh rate), why low refresh or interlaced modes are getting picked of all things, and how to change that?

>>56543820
>friendly linux thread
>friendly

>>56543927
you have problems with drivers, not it. and as long as you can't describe your issue so that we can understand this probably will not change.

>>56544055
>and as long as you can't describe your issue so that we can understand this probably will not change.
what did you not understand? there is distortion in the audio when using linux. there isn't distortion when using windows.

>>56544084
you dense motherfucker. what kind of distortion do you have, do you have it with alsa or pulse? what did you try to fix it? what device do you use?
tons of questions you have to ask yourself and you didn't answer a single one.

>>56543876
nvm me, I kept editing the wrong disk, I'm a retard

>>56541224
I'm thinking about buying this graphics tablet. Do you guys know if they work well on Linux?

>>56544268
usually yes, why not just try it?

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Who is buying this?

>>56543789
Just like on any OS? Bugs exist and won't stop existing anytime soon.

>>56544294
i almost did.

>>56543672
>>56543684
>>56543958
So nobody has any idea at all what determines what refresh rate is used for a particular "vga=xxx" kernel option??

>>56543672
can't you change that with xrandr?

>>56544137
>what kind of distortion do you have
here: >>56509463
>It sounds like the low frequencies are too amplified

Low pitch sounds are too loud. The gain is unbalanced through the frequencies of the sound.


>do you have it with alsa or pulse?
here: >>56509463
>Right now I have alsamixer, pulseaudio volume control and pulseaudio equalizer installed. I don't know how to use alsamixer, and I've installed pulseaudio to try to solve the problem.


>what did you try to fix it?
I googled about the problem, since I don't know what I am supposed to do.

here: >>56509326
>I couldn't find anything about this problem while googling.

The only thing I found is that some people used an equalizer to "un-distort" the sound, but the final result isn't good and it doesn't fix the problem.
I also gave a look at /etc/pulse/default.pa, but I don't understand what the stuff written there does.


>what device do you use?
My output devices are shown here: >>56509653

>>56544439
No, xrandr affects an X session (just as the settings in xorg.conf do). The vga= parameter sets the resolution/bit depth for the standard tty1-tty6 virtual terminals.

>>56544440
>>My output devices are shown here: >>56509653(Cross-thread)
i am talking about your sound chip
>
I googled about the problem, since I don't know what I am supposed to do.
so you didn't even try changing the ports?
>Low pitch sounds are too loud. The gain is unbalanced through the frequencies of the sound.
how strong is this and how do you tell?
give examples.

>>56541224
I'm thinking about buying this graphics tablet
http://www.wacom.com/en-us/products/pen-tablets/intuos-draw
Do you guys know if it works well on Linux?

>>56544605
my bamboo splash from 7 years ago worked fine on ubuntu

/fglgbt/

How viable is it to make some sort of image to restore to a Gentoo install tailored for one machine?

>>56544659
Do you mean a whole disk image or something else?

>>56544478
>i am talking about your sound chip
"lspci -v" gave me this:

00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller (rev 0b)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 51
Memory at f7a1c000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel


00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio Controller (rev 04)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 8 Series HD Audio Controller
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 50
Memory at f7a18000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel


"aplay --list-devices" gave me this:

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: HDMI [HDA Intel HDMI], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: HDMI [HDA Intel HDMI], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: HDMI [HDA Intel HDMI], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC3236 Analog [ALC3236 Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


>so you didn't even try changing the ports?
How do I change the ports?
Changing the ports in the Output Devices tab in pulseaudio does nothing.


>how strong is this and how do you tell?
Compared to windows, it sounds like the audio on ubuntu is muffled.
Low pitches aren't strong per se, but they are louder than the high pitches.

>give examples.
@ 1:01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XellYzrIR-w

>>56544679
Whole disk, although preserving the data isn't important. I suppose something like an installer or a system restore disk.

>>56542918
What happens when you change the audio balance completely to left or right?

arch or void or antergos?

>>56544704
It literally doesn't fucking matter.

>>56544698
>Whole disk
Why wouldn't it be viable? So long as the drive you're writing the image to has enough space of course that would work.

>>56544702
>What happens when you change the audio balance completely to left or right?
When I change it completely to the left, the sound is louder and there is more bass than when I change it completely to the right.

>>56544704
Void doesnt have any software in its repos, probably not an issue if you're alright with compiling everything manually, yourself, but if yuou're gonna do that why not just use gentoo?
Arch and antergos are literally the same, antergos just comes set up already for you.
Arch if you want to set i t all up yourself otherwise antergos.
Between those options.

>>56544842
So I left putty on overnight with top and this was the last update it saw before it was disconnected. Did my server kill it cause out of memory? I thought virtual doesnt count?

>>56544717
Well I'm no image wizard but I imagine the result would be a bootable image but not much more than that. I suppose I could write a gparted/grub2 installer script or something?

>>56544804
are void repos really so empty?

>>56544851
>Server without Swap
What are you doing?

>>56544871
it's called void for a reason

>>56544878
I don't have root access. The server has a predictable amount of load though and the RES is well below 16gb, only about 1gb.

>>56544776
Ok. I switched from opensuse kde to Debian gnome a few days ago and have a similar low pitch and echo sound distorsion. It sounds normal on left or right but not when balance is at center. I quick fixed by using an rca cable adapter but im been to lazy to try a proper fix.

>>56544884
i thought it was just a meme

>>56545053
You can go look for yourself if youd like, probably.

> running xubuntu
> update shit because the GUI thing keeps nagging me about kernel updates
> apt says old linux headers and other stuff aren't needed anymore
> apt purge [list of unneccessary packages]
> reboot
> wifi keeps reconnecting, never get internet connection
Wifi on other devices and Ethernet both work.

http://ccsh.sourceforge.net/

Anyone tried this?

Which of these is the best in terms of stability (no unexpected problems out of nowhere), security, being up to date and can be lightweight?
>debian
>ubuntu
>mint
How is debian and arch compared when it comes to being up to date? Arch is one with constant updates, how about debian? Which is better?

what do you guys think of void linux?

>Dude, you probably should check out the boot up on a typical arch linux installation. Arch boots way way faster than gentoo and yes it uses bash all the way for init scripts.. and the arch script does pretty much all the same things that the gentoo scripts does. The init scripts are written in shell script for a reason.. and that being that they are flexible and changable on the fly.

This is your brain on Archaids

>>56545501
if it's more complicated than my distro it's autism
if it's less complicated than my distro it's for idiots
if it's just as complicated as my distro it's either my distro and thus good, or it's a cheap knockoff that shouldn't even be its own distro.

>>56545592
put this in the OP next time

on a debian based distro, do I need to run some command to reload my mirrors after editing sources.list?

>>56545548
Autism

>>56544871
Even BSD has more packages than void

how can I write manpages for my own programs and where do I put them?

most riceable/customizable DE?

>>56542480
To boot from bios in uefi mode you dont need an efi folder. You just need to have the kernel img and initramfs on the boot partition and to create a uefi entry with efibootmgr.

Can I partition a USB flashdisk to have one bootable linux partition and one normally functioning file storage partition to use?

>>56545999
yes. the debian installation manual even suggests you do so for third party firmware somewhere in the usb boot part.

>>56545467

Why are you asking such cliche, generic and non-sensical questions? That question gets asked 10 times per day. Learn to read.

>terms of stability
Mint is based on Ubuntu which is based on Debian. Debian has multiple branches (stable, unstable and testing and a few others). Ubuntu uses mostly unstable/testing packages from Debian. Mint will have the same packages as Ubuntu for most things. Therefore they're all the same (assuming you don't use Debian stable).

>security
It's all the same because of the above, except for maybe Mint holding back updates for whatever reason.

>up-to-date
See above.

>lightweight
See above, they're all the same packages.

>>56545871

That's a really unique question no one has ever asked. Therefore there aren't thousands of guides and answers for it on the internet.

>>56545548
who are you quoting?
and arch doesn't use bash init scripts anymore

>>56545910

Something is telling me you don't even know what you mean.

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How the fuck do I get Virtualbox/Xorg/whatever the hell is managing the resolution to properly use the screen?

It keeps locking into this weird 1024x500(???) shit and nothing changes it

Just accidentally hit the clear CMOS at the back of my case when moving it (why the fuck is this a thing) and now I can't boot into grub, just sits on a black screen, what do? Was running Antergos w/ W7.

How to delete a repository on Ubuntu with CLI only?

are you guys doing any actual work on your linux or just rice it and shit post on /g/?

>>56546234
When im downloading debian there is no distinction between version/branch. But i understand it like debian is not very good option anyway. Compared to arch which is better in terms of up-to-date for example. But they say arch might get problems out of nowhere.

>>56544692
>intel
definetely not a driver issue at least.
You change ports by sticking the 3.5mm jack into another port.
>>56546234
sid is miles ahead of buntu if there was no recent buntu release.

>>56546334
I work with humans so not much of my computer is involved. But i do hobbyist stuff like midifying firmware, making 3d art, cad stuff, image manipulation, media consumption and learning things on my debian machine.

>>56546070
Thanks
>>56546334
A lot of python libraries only have unix binaries

>>56546342

>But i understand it like debian is not very good option anyway.
You're not understanding well.

> Compared to arch which is better in terms of up-to-date for example
Go to the Debian and Arch package webpage and compare versions for packages you're interested in.

>But they say arch might get problems out of nowhere.
That's a myth and misconception. Stop mentioning it, because you're only contributing to he idiocy. Some idiot will read your post and then spout it again, keeping the loop alive.

Whats the difference between openjdk and oraclejdk? 8 to be exact. Only open source? Do they work and behave the same way?

>>56546506
Also is the performance similar?

I want pacman but I don't have time to setup Arch.

Antergos? or Manjaro?

tiling wm or dynamic wm tell me pros and cons

>>56546506
I've had noticeably better performance with the proprietary oracle drivers, at least for Minecraft. Also be aware that unless you're a developer, you don't need the JDK (Java Development Kit), you only need the JRE (Runtime Environment).

>>56546633

By the time you get an answer you could have installed Arch or one of those show-off distributions you mentioned.

>>56546652
I am a developer

>>56546640

>look up what different types of window managers exist
>look up what they are
>come to the conclusion yourself

>>56546674
Manjaro has sketchy security so Antergos it is then?

>>56545756
Apt update
Apt upgrade

My vim is compiled without clipboard support. Apparently that means I can't paste or copy stuff from it to, let's say, Firefox by pressing "+p.
I have discovered that I can paste text using the mouse middle click. How come?

post some desktops for inspiration

what's the best way to put midis into your mpd playlist?
do I have to convert or is there some kind of plugin to play midis with mpd?

>Ctrl+F "fedora"
>0 mentions
apart from being a meme why does nobody use it? it's pretty good

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>>56544294
>that green, fresh, minty Linux Mint cd
>fresh from the rainy woods out of ubanto

>>56546869
It's the X clipboard, part of the "X Window System" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_selection

>>56547009
The releases are supported for less time than an Ubuntu LTS. I'm not dealing with that

So guys, whats the point of LTS releases?
Why would anyone want to reinstall his OS every x years?

>>56547077
That's the point. You install it and receive updates for many years.

>>56547077

You don't have to reinstall, you can update it.

>>56547009
I'm using it on my thinkpad. Comfiest default input configuration I've ever used.
Even the digitizer worked right out of the box.

The only thing I'm missing is fuckery like toilet or lolcat in the repository, but all non-recreational userspace stuff I needed so far has been there and working well.

It's only been a few months since I installed, so I didn't have to go through the upgrade procedure yet, maybe I'll start to hate fedora afterwards.

>>56547077

This is just the point of an LTS. You do not need to reinstall it, And you are sure to have support for X years. This is mostly interesting in server environment.

Currently running Mint w Cinnamon. Want to try out KDE Plasma, will I fuck shit up if I install it? If not, how do I proceed?

Also I'm finding boot times longer than before, can I fix this?

>>56547194
Using it for quite some time now. Always happy about it, no real issues. Also at work I use RedHat servers, is quit nice to see it a bit back on your desktop.

>>56541315
i3 is baby's first twm tbqh

Using w3m, my terminal emulator fucks up when rendering images. Am I doing something wrong? I'm not running a compositor, but I think that might not be related.

>>56547222
Assuming you have lightDM, you'll be able to switch there. No, you won't fuck shit up, most likely.

>>56541315
pytyle on lxde/openbox is very forgiving, because you don't have to use the tiling and if you stop liking tiling window managers for some reason you don't have to throw away all the rice you put in your look and feel. you just stop using pytyle and still have your wm looking the same.

>>56547222
>Currently running Mint w Cinnamon
W.H.Y. is everyone installing this cap!

>>56547320
Why are you so upset?

>>56547320
what would you install lol

>>56546960
>>>/wsg/desktop

>>56547384
ubuntu

>>56547320
Because people think popular=good

>>56547009
>apart from being a meme why does nobody use it? it's pretty good
It's extremely good, really rock solid. I just cannot shake the feeling, right or wrong, that I'm on NationalSecurityAgencyOS. It's not really surprising that a company worth $4billion (declared) has a slick and professional distro. But how is RH so successful? It should give you reason for pause.

>>56546304
Pls halp

These threads really aren't friendly at all

>>56547585
>GNU/Linux
found your problem, this should be the "not-windows" turds thread instead it's just distroautists flinging shit at each other

is there a way to automatically ssh into a known server with known credentials upon opening a terminal emulator?

>>56547614
>wanting an mac os and android thread

>>56545871
Stallman would prefer you to create an infopage instead.

>>56544470
>>56544439
>>56544407

In the meantime I have been able to workaround the issue by using a board-specific framebuffer driver (atyfb module as the oldass box has an ATi Mach64 video chip). For some reason when specifying the refresh rate in modprobe.d it would set it wrong (72 or 76 Hz instead of 75) so using fbset was necessary to get the correct mode after loading the driver. Still doesn't answer the original question though. Also fbset has no effect when the standard vesafb driver is in use.

>>56547724
infopages are pretty underrated, especially for GNU tools you find a lot more information there.

Wish'd it would support hjkl tho.

Why don't people like Busybox?

>>56547807
You can try something like "info xyz | less". That will get rid of the hierarchy though and will put everything in one long page just as the manpages (which may actually be of advantage in its own right).

>>56547818
Because it isn't a full replacement, good enough for embedded systems tho.

>>56547844
That's actually pretty clever.

If I enter one of my terminals, or whatever are those things called when I go Alt+Ctrl+F#1-6 and start compiling something, will it still do stuff in the background if I switch back to a gui with a Alt+Ctrl+F7?

>>56547979
These are called tty (from teletype).
Yes it will, just try it.

Anyone knows about a standalone ALT+TAB window switcher that isn't tied to a WM?

>>56545467
>How is debian and arch compared when it comes to being up to date? Arch is one with constant updates, how about debian? Which is better?

kys

>>56548577
spotted the tech illiterate

>>56546334
Yeah, that's why I'm using Ubuntu and not ricing.

>>56545910
KDE

>>56547818
Why exactly people would use busybox?

should i try elementary os?

>>56548851
Only if you want to use pantheon

>>56546304
Install a proper DE and if the problem persists:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xrandr
>>56546332
Go to the sources.list and delete the line that indicates repo address

Only problem with Linux is that it has no games.
>Implying quake clones and tux racer is worth installing Linux for

>>56548866
you mean pantheon is the only worthwhile thing on elementary or there is no other way to install pantheon on other distros

>>56548927
You'll grow out of games in a couple of years considering you are ~20-22

>>56548948
IDK of many distros that have pantheon in their repo

>>56548927
i first tried the windows version of tux racer in ~2001/2002 before i even knew linux was a thing, and enjoyed it

>>56548964
One day you'll realize this communist model Linux follows is why it has no games or good software.

>>56549009
Been using it since 2007, I don't really see games as an issue.

If I want a toybox I'd just get a toy (console)

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>>56548927
>>56549009

Excuse you

106 of my steam games run natively on Linux, and of the ones that don't, most run on Wine with zero custom configs, a select few run with custom configs, and then a handful don't run because DX12 (for which I have a small Windows partition set up for, because I haven't bothered doing the GPU passthrough stuff yet, so I use that partition as a game console basically).

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>>56549038
And this is the passthrough thing I was mentioning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16dbAUrtMX4

Yup, that's GTA V running on Linux.

I just haven't bothered and have an extra partition set up

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>>56549038
>>56549060
also
>just noticed Rocket League got a Linux version because SteamOS
Oh hey, thanks Gabe

+Added to all this, emulation with PCSX2, Dolphin, etc is super on Linux. So...

I can't really see how you can say there's just "tuxracer".

>>56549038
interesting. I gave up after trying one game that was "compatible with linux" and finding out that neither input nor graphics properly work.
It was probably missing some libs which steam should've pulled but didn't.

>>56549038
nice collection of garbage

>>56549060
>needing two GPUs
kek

Which has the better web ui: Seafile, Owncloud, Nextcloud or Pydio?

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>>56549113
Well, everything's fine on Debian Testing w/ propietary NVIDIA driver.

Another example: Alpha Centauri running on Wine. Other examples that run great on Wine are WoW, Rainbow Six 3, Dark Souls, Age of Empires 2, etc, etc

How do I update KDE? I have 5.6.

>>56549153
emerge kde

>>56549125
Call of Duty runs fine too, so you should be pleased kiddo

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>>56549184
>WINE

>>56549125
>>needing two GPUs
>kek
found the tech illiterate
You already have two GPUs. A small one and a real one.

>>56549125
>>56549125
>Has one GPU
>Plays manchild games
Nice one, autistic mouth breather

>>56549174
wat

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>>56549215
Too bad that he only has a small one IRL

>>56544294
Back in the day people used to buy CDs from devs to support open-source software. Now most people are just doing this shit to scam said people who still thought the money would go to the devs.

>>56549125
Your motherboard will come with a basic GPU, most likely something like Intel HD and since you like to game, you'll probably get an external GPU that's very powerful. You can use the external GPU for GPU passthrough and keep the basic GPU for linux stuff since you probably won't be doing anything graphically powerful on the linux OS.

>>56544294
in the case of Mint: buying an installer CD from a shady vendor on ebay may be safer than downloading the .iso from the official website.

>>56549275
>Bothering to explain anything to a troll
I know you have good intentions but don't bother

>>56549215
>iGPU
lmao

>>56549225
Your question is fucking retarded, more info needed.

>>56549291
Dude how do I upgrade to KDE 5.7, I have 5.6

>>56549286
>troll
Try "a low IQ winbabby"

>>56549299
No one is going to answer you with such little information.

>>56549299
What distro, retard?

>>56549299
It would help if you told us what distro you're on

>>56549224
the irony of this post

>>56549326
Dumb winkid

bash vs zsh, join the fight
>>56542903

>>56549322
>>56549319
>>56549310
Mint

musl vs gcc?

>>56549353
http://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/install-kde-plasma-5-7-ubuntu-fedora-opensuse-arch-linux/

Just follow as if you were using Ubuntu

>>56549348
>>56549378
>zsh
Babbyshell
>musl
Useless
No

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>>56549353
>mint
>dumb question
every time


(it's a joke snowflake don't get offended)

I have a chromebook and was wanting to just use it for linux. What's the best way to do this?

>>56549393
>http://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/install-kde-plasma-5-7-ubuntu-fedora-opensuse-arch-linux/
I mean I already have plasma, shouldn't it be more straight forward without adding any ppas?

>>56549348
GNU bash because GNU.

>>56549430
Yes, wait for mint to give you an update.

>>56549430
The latest mint is on 5.6, so no

>>56549424
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Chrome_OS_devices

>>56549445
so will I fuck up anything if I do it like that

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>>56549348
>he actually uses bash
>he doesn't use glorious zsh
>he can't mash tab to cycle through his entire filedir
>b-but muh extensions

>>56549393
That doesn't work anyway, 5.7 isn't in backports.

>>56549461
bash can do this (menu-complete), why are zshfags unable to read manpages?

>>56549459
It won't work for you, the article is incorrect. You would have to add kde neon's ppas, god knows if that would work in mint though.

>>56549348

Reminds me of the guy from a couple of days ago who was editing his bashrc but using zsh and then complaining why his aliases didn't work.
Typical zsh user.

>>56549476
i would read manpages but i don't want RMS to call the foss police on me :^)

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NO
FIGHTING

Friendly line starts here ~

>>56549527
It's actually Linux not GNU/Linux

Daily reminder not to use Mint.

- why you propably run a backdoored iso:
http://thehackernews.com/2016/02/linux-mint-hack.html

- why it's broken and insecure:
https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/

- why you don't get security updates on mint:
https://github.com/linuxmint/mintupdate/blob/master/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintUpdate/rules

- why you shouldn't even think about using mint:
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/why-the-linux-mint-hack-is-an-indicator-of-a-larger-problem/

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>>56549542

>>56549502
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>56549588
>referring to carrot as carat

>>56549559
which distro would you recommend then

>>56549559
>propably run a backdoored iso
Backdoored ISO is removed and checksum is re-varified. The backdoor would only exist if someone downloaded Mint Cinnamon 17.3 on a 6 hour window in one specefic day

>it's broken and insecure
Mint has some of its own tweaks that they have to test before they push it into the repo. It's not broken and updates are held back untill they are tested

>why you don't get security updates on mint
Learn how to read. The article clearly states that Linux Mint gets security updates

>you shouldn't even think about using mint
Apart from philosophical bull crap, there's nothing wrong with it. It's stable and it just works.


What's your distro though?

>>56549619
If you can't install a program, because mint highjacks the name with their own programs, it's broken.
If the kernel doesn't get security updates, it's insecure.

>>56549619
>Archfag
>doesn't read anything, doesn't know anything
well

>>56549619
>why you don't get security updates on mint
>Learn how to read. The article clearly states that Linux Mint gets security updates

Did you even click the links?
https://github.com/linuxmint/mintupdate/blob/master/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintUpdate/rules
is not an article, it's Mint's blacklist of programs that don't recieve updates.

>>56549693
>a program
What's your login manager again?

>Kernel doesn't get security updates
Ubuntu LTS kernel gets security updates

>>56549712
Refute or fuck off

>>56549735
We're speaking of Mint, not Ubuntu. Mint may use Ubuntu's kernel, but it's blacklisted from getting updates, see >>56549733

>>56549733
>don't recieve updates.
They are delayed, not disabled permenantly for above stated reason

>>56549760
Again, they are delayed for testing purposes

>>56549778
>>56549767
Would you please click the links and educate yourself instead of spreading your stupity?

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>>56549735

>>56549809
I did, a long time ago

>>56549821
Proves the fact that untested updates are delayed

>>56541224
Can mono compile into .deb or only .exe?

>>56549852
>delayed
nice meme, check the blacklist, can't see anything about "delays" only that packages are blacklisted from updates and considered "dangerous" faggot

>>56549616
anything else

Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, OpenSuse, any Arch derivative

>>56549852
You only get a kernel update with a new release of Linux Mint.

>>56549821
When you stability affects security, there is something fundamentally going wrong.

>>56549870
No, it blaclists sensitive updates and it pushes them after being tested.


Retard

>>56549882
Of course not.

Im trying to install arch. I put iso on flashdrive with unetbootin and when i reboot computer i see something like
failed to find cpu0 node device
running hooks
running hooks
waiting 30secs for device
device did not show up you can fix it and logout
sh cant access tty

whats going on?

>>56549922
Okay, let's believe some anonymous troll :^)

>>56549930
kek your ISO is damaged probably

>>56549955
it woked in virtualbox

>>56549922
>this is the list of packages it will never update, instead of just integrating changes properly with the packagaes in the ubuntu archive they instead suppress doing (security) updates at all for them. i would say forcefully keeping a vulnerable kernel browser or xorg in place instead of allowing the provided security updates to be installer makes it a vulnerable system, yes. i personally wouldn't do online banking with it ;)"
t. Canonical Developer
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=mtuxnzy

>>56549930
Did you even try to google that?
>arch sh cant access tty

>>56549930
>unetbootin
found your problem

>>56549060
>Yup, that's GTA V running on Linux.
No, that's exactly not running on Linux.

>>56550012
related lists
https://web.archive.org/web/20140818110019/https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2013-November/014770.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20140818110021/https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2013-November/014773.html

So, which distros are we going to recommend for newcomers?

>>56550019
Yes i did and none of the found solutions helped.

>>56550012
>t.
Oh it's you

>>56550012
>I hear a Canonical dev was more opinionated than knowledgeable and the press blew what he said out of proportion. I wouldn’t mind too much, if we weren’t finding ourselves answering questions from panicked users rather than working on what matters right now (i.e. Mint 16 RC).

>We explained in 2007 what the shortcomings were with the way Ubuntu recommends their users to blindly apply all available updates. We explained the problems associated with regressions and we implemented a solution we’re very happy with.
>Anybody running Mint can launch Update Manager -> Edit -> Preferences and enable level 4 and 5 updates, thus making their Linux Mint as “Secure” and “Unstable” as Ubuntu.
There, turn the unstable updates on, or wait a few days like a normal human being


>>56550072
That's windows running on Linux


>>56550107
Try rufus this time

>>56550066
whats wrong with it?

>>56550107
That's funny, the first result for me was the arch wiki saying that this is because unetbootin was used and with instructions on how to use dd.

>>56550119
>There, turn the unstable updates on, or wait a few days like a normal human being
+and break your system with "dangerous" packages :^)

>>56550124
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_flash_installation_media#Using_UNetbootin

>>56550130
Thats funny because i dont have archwiki on first 2 pages of result.

>>56550152
True. Wait until the updates are tested then.

>bash
>zsh
Should I use fish?
Anyone with experience who can recommend it?

>>56550243
What the fuck is wrong with bash?

>>56550243
fish are for eating, not abusing

>>56550236
>True. Wait until the updates are tested then.
+be vunerable.
no

>>56550243
>"I just want to be different"

>>56550243
fish is trash

>>56550243
+ friendly syntax highlighting
- not fully POSIX compatible

>>56550267
The held back period isn't long

>>56550243
it lacks a lot of functionality from bash/zsh and added a lot of ricer shit bloat like syntax hl
I don't see the point in using fish

>>56550318
You don't understand. Nothing is held back. It doesn't get updates at all till a new release.

New thread: >>56550369

>>56550202
That's funny indeed.

>>56549821
>the font makes "Romeo" look like "Porneo"

Can't unsee.

>>56550476
Fix your monitor/fonts