/Fraud/ Steroid General

Is minoxidil the drug you guys use to prevent hair loss? Are there multiple options or is that the only one?

is one of you paying a camgirl to make signs or what

>>40313190
another option is not being a shit genetics fag

>>40313197
no it's his slave

>>40313190
Your other option is have good genetics

>>40313190
minoxidil and finasteride are the two "hair drugs". Also there's various bullshit like pumpkin seed oil and other vitamins and supplements and shit and before you know it your whole life revolves around your hairline.

Is this the general with the DYEL trap that gives lifting advice?

>>40313227
no this is the general with the swollen glands in face faggot who is addicted to heroin and loves sucking dick and fucking horses in the ass

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>>40313197
I wish I was getting paid lololololol
Gib me 5bux

>>40313251
>>40313251
>>40313251

no alex edition

>>40313239
VANCOUVER

>>40313198
>>40313209

Lol fuck you guys

>>40313259

Why don't you have your girl/one of your girls make a timestamp for the general?

No?

Too embarrassed to ask, baka.

Just gotta be yourself

>>40313197

Not everyone needs to pay women to get attention from them desu

>>40313300
Lmao that was you

>>40313306

No. I'm gonna do the MasT meme stack.

The amazon links are what 2 threads back? I'll buy it

>low test
>roid Zits all over shoulders despite all the fucking shit that Reddit acne post said to do
>receding hairline

U Mirrin genetics?

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>>40313306

'No'

>this girl spamming me

Like go talk to ur fucking husband or some shit I'm busy talking 2 glands

>>40313337
Are you gonna follow the Moosey variation on the masT stack and do derma stamping/needling too?

>>40313094
Are darknet sterons good?

>>40313520

What's the mossey variation?

I'm so lazy with supplements man, it's harder for me to remember to take those zinc pills and shit than to actually lift

I'm gonna go to sleep now and then check the last couple threads for the amazon links

Also keep forgetting to call the fucking doctor for bloods

>>40313094
If i had major problems with gyno(had surgery) and female type of body fat distribution(still to this day). Is it ok to hopp on gear train straight away? I dont have access to good medical atteintion in my country. Should i just take anti estrogens straight away?

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>>40313883
I think those links were from a UK version of amazon anyways. Just get the Amazon best sellers.

Pic related is what I got. Blurred out stuff because I'm paranoid about metadata mining on 4chan because I KNOW for a fact that /pol/ is mined in a disturbingly thorough way. That's why I strictly try to avoid posting in depth writings there that reveal my personal beliefs and writing style. And generally avoid posting there at all.

Oh and the Moosey variation is doing scalp bloodflow exercises, Keto shampoo (this might have been part of masT's version of the stack), and derma needling, where you take these devices that are sticks with a needle(s) on the end of a uniform length that you stick into the boundary of your hairline to stimulate bloodflow and the generation of hairs. Look it up, pretty legit.

aztimer111 gmail if you ever want to email.

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Shoulder day.

>>40314663
Who took teh picture

>>40314719
Mussel Ghost

>>40314723
Dont tell me you are still with that unstable chink.

>>40314761
Okay I won't.

>>40314819
Bimbo my goal is to have a bigger back and shoulders than you. I'm cutting right now but in two months I'm coming for you.

So don't bulk too much you bastard.

>>40313209

>good genetics
>being a literal cocksucking faggot

pick only one

>>40315109
Trying for 300 ~May so idk.

Also I guarantee you will because my back and shoulders suck.

>>40315197
We're like opposites

Me:
>Thicc core
>big delts
>Shit chest
>Solid back
>Meh Arms
>Big legs

You (in comparison to overall frame, mind)
>Small core
>Medium delts
>Beastly chest
>Decent back
>Nice arms
>Small legs

It's okay though I like muh thiccness. Besides the chest, it all makes me look huge in clothes

Keep on keeping on bibs

>>40314094
>creatine in a hair growth stack
not sure if b8

Hey /fraud/,

UKfag here, I suffer from borderline low testosterone, but not low enough for my GP to consider putting me on TRT (I am trying to find a new GP). I am getting my bloodwork done privately (can anyone attest to medicheck.com?).

If my bloodwork confirms my suspicions of low T and high LH, I am considering putting myself on TRT by injecting 100 mg of cyp weekly, as well as taking aromasin 12.5 mg EOD and 10-20 mg nolvadex daily. I understand that I will likely not get off it unless i want children (unlikely, and I am aware that I might not be able to even if I get off) and it's not an easy decision.

Age: late 20s, Testosterone around 350. Take 50 mg of zinc daily, strive for 8 hours of sleep, nothing has been helping.

My question is: does my cycle seem sensible or are there any glaring 'oh shit nigger what are you doing' elements to it?

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You guys think it's worth taking orals with grapefruit juice or bioperine?

Which thread are we using?
>>40313251

>>40313094
gonna blast test enantate for 4 months, 1g a week, how much weight will i gain each month? and should i cruize 300 or 400mg a week after?

>>40316495
I'd say it's kinda pointless to run it that high. I'd stay around 600mg but add an oral/tren

>>40316473

Like let's use mine since the photo is

>fresh
>oc
>1 day old
>actually good

Right guys?

>>40315456

yeah I listen to 99% of what peek says that is the 1% I will not

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I'm 4 weeks into my first cycle of 250mg test and 40mg dbol. Yesterday while taking a shit i got a little hernia and managed to push it back in, but i can still feel it. I tried lifting after and put on my belt for the entire thing because it kind of seemed to help keep pressure on the hernia.

Should I continue like this? Am I going to kill myself when I'm late in the cycle and pushing like crazy? plz halp

>>40316935
I meant 4 days into it fuck

>>40316935
also 250mg every 3.5

RATE MY CYCLE

>14 weeks
>500mg test-e pw base
>40mg ed dbol weeks 4-12
>50mg winstrol weeks 12-14

>>40317004
Be sure to split your dbol evenly through the day it half time is really short like manlets

>>40317187
20mg every 12 hours would be ok?

Thanks for the information with an added giggle

>>40317004
>CYCLE

>>40313094
hi

>>40317264
>GLANDS

>>40317296
>GOING AWAY

pls hgh come faster i want even more compounds to stack that all cause fucking lethargy

>>40317200
half time is 4-6 hours so take 10mg every 6 hours and your blood levels will not spike as much and it will be easier for you liver

>>40317187
>>40317004
Nah m8, thats a meme. Its half life is short but its effects last month and take a week or two to peak. Take it as a pre workout for those nasty pumps and if you really need take like 10mg before you go to bed or after you wake up.

While keeping test lowish (250 - 350), what's the best stack to bulk with?

>>40317377
tren sdrol hgh or gtfo

although i heard if your liver is fucked up you get less IGF levels from the HGH so maybe fuck the superdrol

not sure on this

good thing i will be done with it by the time my hgh gets here probably

>>40316935
anyone with hernia experience? D:

>>40317399
How much tren, 2:1?

>>40317411
im on 860 tren e. i think all that "hur less is more" "dose conservatively" bullshit is just that, bullshit.

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shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit guys pc was dead.
did i miss anything cool, is swollen glands still ugly.

who is that trap in OP's picture.

>tfw same weight since 2 weeks despite pizza diet.

/blog/

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>>40317498

U missed some good drama

>I'm getting bloods
>srs considering first cycle
>this guy is doing SS + Roiding to try to lose his virginity
>it hasn't worked
>he is getting pretty angsty
>he is doxing my okcupid dates LOL

Life is gud moosey, time to get big u feel me?

here's recent pic of me just 4 u xoxo

>>40317498
its trappy chan our /fit/ queen of lifting critique

> some random anon told me that the DIM didnt work for your acne, just to confirm did it ?

eh confirm or deny?

>>40315456
>>40314094
>>40316870

Oh yeah don't buy the creatine. I bought some back when I thought it would be good for me (gains wise - this was before I was on UGL cruise) but after reading mossad's posts about how it made him LOSE hair it's sitting here unopened and untouched. Might give it away if I can't return it.

>>40316464
What are your symptoms? Low T and high LH will just indicate a degree of primary hypogonadism. You can also have low T and low LH which indicates a degree of secondary hypogonadism.

Did you get e2 and cortisol checked as well? If your cortisol was on the high side take a look a that. Have a LOT of posts on it in the last thread. For AI dosage you will ideally dial it in by settling on a dose that you feel good on and getting bloods to verify that the e2 is in range.

Good luck, let us know how it goes. How fat are you? It may be possible that you don't need AI on 100mg/week.

>>40317498
Hi Moosey. I did derma stamping. Pretty interesting sensation. Am holding off on doing it any further until my haircut kit comes and I give myself a buzzcut. Hope you are doing well.

>>40317933
>give myself a buzzcut
Cue realization that traction alopecia is a thing, iirc you have a ponytail right?

>>40317933
>>40317498
can i stamp existing growth to thicken and fill out or will that damage the roots of whatever hair there is, or risk infection from the surrounding hairs not being perfectly sterile or w/e? genuine question, am kinda dumb.

>>40318634
O shit anon, do you know me IRL or did you just put the pieces together based on what I've said? Traction alopecia is certainly a thing (and one I've been thinking about for a few weeks). I think I mentioned it when I was talking to mossad about DHT not being the devil behind hairloss. I have really long hair that I tie up pretty tight - but the weight of the hair pulls on my hairline giving me widow's peak and every time I wash it I yank out a bunch of hair due to all the knots.

I'm literally a TRT hermit mode so it is kinda suitable but at the same time it's a hassle that isn't worth losing hair over.

>>40318771
I'm not 100% sure about the mechanics/risks but I would guess you can stamp existing growth. If you look at forums related to some of the electronic derma stamp/needle tools people talk about cutting their hair short or setting the needle depth higher because they're stamping over their hair.

Check this out and see if it helps your understanding:
http://owndoc.com/dermarolling/derminator-on-the-scalp-for-hair-growth/

>>40318990
>O shit anon, do you know me IRL
2spooky https://youtu.be/OMOGaugKpzs
kek

But no, I just pay attention. And yeah I work with a lot of hippie and hipster types alike and they all tie their ponytails and man buns (eww) tighter than a nun cunt and wonder why their forehead is literally the same size as the rest of their face. I have long hair too but mine roams free.

>>40318990
hm yeah that soothes most of my doubts, quite logical if i think about it. thx a lot, lion mane here we come

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Snowstorm got anyone else trapped inside all day?

>two threads
What the fuck is going on

Answer my question from the other thread: best pt cert to get and best gyms to pt at CMON

>>40319996
mirin hair

>>40320379
Thanks bb, it's always amazed me how well my body tolerates steroids/how few sides I get.

My buddy who moves around a ton just texted me he found a new GH doc for pharma. I really don't fucking understand how he does it but he gets US pharma HGH everywhere he moves within like a month from finding shady docs.

Is it really that easy? Why don't more people do it that way? I'm gonna give it a crack before joining you and hopping on blacktops. I mean even if I get pharma id prob just sell it every month and run blacktops anyway and use the leftover cash for whatever.

>>40320550
your friend must be rich as fuck unless he is running tiny doses

especially through a doctor

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no fatties pls

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>A 265 lb. (body mass index, 38.1) male elite bodybuilder suffered focal muscle atrophy that developed in his right vastus lateralis muscle within a month following a painful self-administered injection of testosterone. The subject did not lose any sensory or motor function immediately after the injection; however after several days to weeks, muscle atrophy and paresthesia ensued. The subject had an obvious atrophic zone in the right vastus lateralis muscle with approximately 40% loss of strength when compared to the left leg. In our view, the neuropraxia developed from direct neurotoxic effect of androgens or pressure exerted upon the nerve following injection of a bolus of liquid. This report is indicative of the many potential dangers associated with unsupervised androgen use which may include androgens as potential neurotoxins.

>>40320921
>injecting into a nerve
>they still blame the steroids themselves

>>40320931
>dude just don't accidentally inject it into a nerve lmao!

I bought 1 inch pins and I've been avoiding glute injections, I'm not overweight but I'm blessed in the booty fat distribution department. I'm sick of delts, quads reckon I can go at it with the 1 incher?

I read on a medical forum about only needing the 1.5 inch needles for obese fucks, so I'm not sure.

>>40319996
>: best pt cert to get and best gyms to pt at
I'd also like to know this.

>>40320942
>his report is indicative of the many potential dangers associated with unsupervised androgen use which may include androgens as potential neurotoxins.

>stick needle into nerve
>wow evil masculinity is fucking neurotoxic!!!

>>40320983
>I'm not overweight but genetics

>>40320983
You should be fine. I've pinned glutes with a 5/8ths.
Guess it just depends on how much of a ghetto booty you have.

Injecting testosterone IM instead of SubQ.

Ha. Deserves that nerve damage.

>>40316464
>UKfag here, I suffer from borderline low testosterone, but not low enough for my GP to consider putting me on TRT (I am trying to find a new GP). I am getting my bloodwork done privately (can anyone attest to medicheck.com?).
>If my bloodwork confirms my suspicions of low T and high LH, I am considering...


What's your estradiol levels?

Perhaps you just need to bring the E down to get the T up.

>>40321062
nice b8

>>40321096
>nice b8

1. Not bait, nice try though.

2. Dumbass injecting in the SCM muscle is begging to hit a nerve.

3. No reason to do IM. SubQ is just as good and free of causing scar tissue.

>>40321181
Fine for trt doses or single compound blasts. You try shooting multiple cc of gear subq eod and report back.

Question for peek, how do I into cortisol memeing for women? Same stack? Not sure gf approves of natural test boost in the process, neither do I.

>>40317933
I'll take your creatine bby

Anyone have some large sclae homebrew tutorials?

>>40321181

Subq can fuck with absorption; also only good for small volumes of oil. TRT would be fine, blasting is suicide.

>strict bent over rows with barbell, past knees up to chest
Meh

>Full rom DB rows with stretch at the bottom
Better, good lat pump

>Full retard cheaty t-bar rows
Entire back is DOMS as fuck now.

Strict form is a meme, full rom is a meme

>>40321765
Exactly, whatever gets the job done.
I barely squat anymore, I get more a pump from the machines like hacksquat Then again I'm not competing in powerlifting and it means fuckall to me how much I squat.
Same with plenty other movements.
If you're not getting a good pump and contraction you're better finding things that work better

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>>40321765
do some rack pulls they are sick af for mid upper back

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>>40321439
>I'll take your creatine bby
Post throwaway email if you don't have mine already. I already take too many supplements.

>>40321401
>>40321347
Not sure how/why cortisol memeing would be different for women. The testosterone boost caused by PS was observed in men, because high cortisol levels (I believe, through personal experience) that the adrenal glands exhibit somewhat of an inhibitory effect on the hypothalamus and pituitary not only for the release of CRH and ACTH but also for male gonadotropins. Basically, I think there is some overlapping effects from feedback on the HPA axis and the HTPA/HPGA in men. Don't quote me on it - just a theory.

I don't know anything about women or their physiology. The only reason I know what periods are is because of pic related. I only started talking to them outside of business/transactions after I got on TRT.

PS is a phospholipid that is responsible for cell signaling. Nothing inherently androgenic about it. Good for the brain too. No harm in taking it as a woman that I can tell.

Ashwagandha has an active ingredient that binds to the GCR and has an antagonistic effect there. Nothing inherently androgenic about it either. No harm in taking that as a woman that I can tell either. Do your own research, ideally. Like I said, I have 0 knowledge about what is different in women's physiology.

Not sure about the DHEA stuff grandpa and anon were talking about in the last thread as it relates to women. Hope this all helps and that you and/or your gf experience some relief if you guys have high cortisol levels.

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>>40313094
L O N D O N
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D
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>>40322032
where can i get this PS stuff legit in europe?

Only site I can find is shady af even though I think its legal here.

>>40322054
Can you get AyuPhos in EU? That's what I took/take. Last time I checked on ebay there were some people selling bulk powder with various levels of purity but it looked like a homemade extraction so I didn't really jump on it.

>>40322071
is this the right one?

https://www.evitamins.com/nl/ayuphos-ayush-herbs-312136

>>40322098
Yep, that's what I take. Not shilling for that brand in particular, but it has 60% purity PS which is more than what I found in the eBay powders. A lot of versions of PS don't specify purity and I don't think it's right to assume that it'll be 100% purity when unspecified but who knows.

Good luck and let me know how you (or whoever you give it to) feels after 2 weeks of taking it!

>>40322012
Fuck yeah I will.

Max rack pull followed by power shrug drop set for maximum back destruction

>>40321941

Nonsense if you don't squat X amount of weight you won't be aesthetic and you will miss out on the 5900ng/l test levels that heavy squats provide for you, as well as stimulating your Ptuary gland to make free HGH

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>>40322385
Fk I forgot all bout that

>>40322401

Yeah stay dyel little twink

Your 225 lbs 8% bodyfat 6,0? Oh yeah?

I'm 600 lbs and have "defined obliques" and I'm the same height.

You're a weak twink, I squat more than u

Stay dyel

What do you mean post your body? Nah I can't do that, but I gotta tell u that once I cut I will be 300lbs 0% bodyfat 6'0

Ayy boys. Your favorite anonymous Low T poster here.

So after getting results yesterday after planning out my cycle, I managed to get an appointment tonight with my PCP. We checked my panels from two years ago (no roids used prior to either test) And my Test has dropped significantly in only two years.

She checked my numbers and immediately said
"You have a nodule on your thyroid"
So now tomorrow night I get an ultrasound to check for Hypothyroidism. Which would explain a long history of weight loss problems, dry skin, fatigue, depression, strength loss, etc etc.

Well I can't get into an Endo until April 18. So Im hoping they find Hypo so that I can jump on my cycle Monday with no worries. If not, I have to decide if I hold off for months to get an accurate panel done, or if I jump on anyway and just try to crash my test the week prior.

Probably gonna start a low cruise Monday regardless.

Thoughts? Treatment for Hypo is T4 supplements.

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>>40322567
pic very related

>>40322567
>"your uncle has over 20 inch arms pure muscle! they are so big i cannot wrap my hands around them and my hands are over 10 inches!!!"
>at the time he said this my uncle was over 290lbs or so of pure fast food and not lifting in over 20 years

same so called grandfather that said i look better deformed

>>40322567
fuck synthroid. They will try to give you that. I take Armour Thyroid. It's t3 and t4. Feel light years better than just t4 synthroid.

>>40322567
Don't start juicing until you have this figured out. If you have a legitimate problem (like thyroid cancer or something), it needs to be found, and bloods are going to be pretty common until that happens. Taking steroids will mess with the results and make the process more difficult.

>>40322567
What about your numbers indicated a thyroid nodule issue to her?

>jump on anyway and just try to crash my test the week prior
Don't. What are you even thinking here man? Pin test until April 1, stop completely, and hope the endo doesn't notice that you are suppressed and have little to no LH/FSH?

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>>40322674
Nice I'll ask specifically for that after I check it out.

Really hoping this is the case because it would explain/fix so much of whats going on the best couple years. Although my TSH levels were normal in 2013 idk how rapidly this happens.

I just wanna start my cycle man I have way too goddamn much gear at my house begging to get inside my thicc meaty quadsss.

>>40322651

>mom telling me the other day I look like a Skelton
>5 months natty BB

Ok mom how about u buy me some mtren or some shit

Yet when I was obese she never had comments on my physique

>Russian gf said she'll kill herself if I ever leave her
>I don't care if you fuck other girls but I need to always have you or I don't want to be alive

Nah fuck this shit, this is how u get stabbed

Huge unaesthetic scar on my forearms from ESTP ex who made this girl look sane

Time 2 bail maybe, except that retarded part of my brain actually likes her for some reason, like actually cares about her welfare (this is how u fuck yourself up(

Like how u can be so retarddd that you actively try to fuck your shit up?

Thoughts peek, wanna explain how my hormones are fucking me up or can I safely blame this on autism?

>>40322701
>>40322702
Well shit if I have cancer Im def juicing.

I'll probably just hold off then. I have just been doing the cycle research for 3 years, and planning this cycle for two months.

I currently barely work and before Spring/40 hrs a week job start, I wanted to do a full Test cycle.

But I won't risk screwing up a Endo panel. Especially if it means I could get TRT.

>>40322734
>I have just been doing the cycle research for 3 years,
wat

>>40322721
>>Time 2 bail maybe, except that retarded part of my brain actually likes her for some reason, like actually cares about her welfare (this is how u fuck yourself up(
up the tren

>>40322759
Those are the reasons I want to start the cycle so bad.

Preparation, extensive lifting, gear on hand, too much free time, Spring coming.

>>40322807
this is why the USA is the best fucking country to live in. no 6 month waiting list for critical health issues to have """free healthcare""" where u die in the fucking waiting room.

cheap gear. lax law enforcement (unless u are retarded and like beat people up or deal weed and shit). get your own blood tests for $50

>>40322769

fuck man I bet you I can just beat it with willpower

Like convince myself to stop being a fucking retard

Maybe this

>google list of tren mental side effects
>pretend I am on tren
>convince myself my body naturally produces tren
>act like I am on tren

Bam and I will turn into fucking glands instead of being a fucking idiotic bitch

No tren cough

Fool proof plan fuck

>fcking driving to see her right now

Fuck I'm gonna fuck the shit out of her I dunno fuck what I'm doing man

I think maybe hop on that no fap + no sex because it seems to get me to a normal test range

Maybe with a normal test range I won't be a retarded bitch

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>>40322721
I'll take a stab at it

You're constantly seeking any form of validation you can get. She's validating the fuck out of you so your ego won't let go.

>hoping for a murder suicide ending.

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>>40322829
Yea my schedule this past week, all with only a days notice:

>Bloods on the 6th
>Primary Care 6pm today
>Ultrasounds 9pm tomorrow

And the Cleveland Clinic is world renown and has a minor campus ten minutes from my house.

Too bad Endos are so damn popular.

>>40322867

But any girl I fuck will validate my ego

So why am I wasting my time with her when I know where this ends ends with me getting stabbed and shit

Maybe she just validates my ego more than any other girl?

>>40322895
>It's easy and already there
>Constantly texts to remind you

Anyway, why are you always here. Where are your friends?

>>40322926

>implying

Glands peek moosey NatT etc are ITT

>>40322940
You don't know what any of their faces look like, or what their voice sounds like.

You couldn't even pick them out from a lineup, despite the physique pics.

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>>40323149
>physique pics

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>>40322721
Do you pair-bond this hard with all the girls you sleep with? I'm not an expert on hormones and how they play out in relationships. Mostly because it doesn't apply to me. But I have a theory about how girls with a high body count tend to have a diminished ability to pair-bond (I'll spare you sensitive anons the infographics and emphasize that I said TEND TO - not saying every girl is like this. Happy?), men with a higher body count also do. As you fuck more and more I suspect you are less likely to feel in-group sympathies for any of your lays. Maybe you haven't fucked the pair-bonding ability out of your system?

Anons: this is a THEORY. If you want to flame me, tell me what a better theory of the underlying mechanics are instead of just calling me a retarded /pol/ack. Not an argument.

Now idk if this is true or applicable to you. I'm just the wrong person to ask about girls. Also fwiw I've read some stuff about how people get cold and have very little sympathy for emotional blackmail like your russian gf is doing when they're on exogenous DHT. So maybe that's a factor too. I'm just out of my lane when I even theorize about what hormones are at play when it comes to relationships. I am all about myself. Hermit lyfe.

I should be asking you guys about girls. Pic related (the one who wants to suck me off in the movie theater after getting high) seems like a literal gains goblin to me in view of my low test background/history. Interested in weed ("no") and me ejaculating recreationally without any expectation of relationship ("no"). But now there is this libido thing that is present, fighting with my ideas/intellect/whatever. But I will not rush into this. Anyways, just trying to show how inept I am when it comes to girls so I don't seem like the right person to ask haha.

>>40323332

>Do you pair-bond this hard with all the girls you sleep with?

No. Only the ones that are super submissive and lie to indicate low partner count, as well as either have no male friends, or will CC with any male friends, etc

>maybe you haven't fucked the pair bonding out of your system

If it was possible to fuck out I fucked it out peek.

Any women that shows me that she'll be all mine, to look at , to touch, etc , I catch retarded beta feels for.

It was more sarcasm, I didn't expect an actual reply on the topic, I didn't think this could be correlated to hormones.

But I guess what I don't have is that 'tren' feels that glands shitposted me about.

He's right, I don't have the tren feel that makes relationships impossible.

I want to achieve that without tren desu. I think I can do it. Just the mental state.

I will try. Willpower, willpower, willpower.

I only get the bad sides of tren from my autism (paranoia) none of the good sides.

>very little sympathy for emotional blackmail

Yeah if a girl mentions another male to me, I just totally 100% lose all intrest in them in anything other than casual sex.

Even like talking about another guy, I will write her off as 'not a safe partner for long term'.

I'm very possessive and controlling so obviously I don't want a girl long term that is going to try to make me jealous.

That doesn't work on me, u try to make jealous. I put you in the 'fun only' part of my brain.

As for your girl just fuck her but she doesn't sound like she's worth dating bro. But fuck her as hard and as rough as you want, that's what she wants you to do, its what you want to do, do it.

Stop thinking about it just do it peek.

Gotta break that habit of yours.

>>40323149

Normies irl fuck them eBay customers steal my money and look @ peek giving me so much help and shit and links to shit to save my hairline

I always only cared about/felt loyalty to people that looked out for me (glands)

>>40323332
Humans tend to fall between r- and k- selection based on environment.

Environments with lots of resources but also lots of competition produce r-selective mating behavior

Scarce resources and the need for future planning results in k-selective mating behavior.

These modalities are just the most effective patterns for gene propagation for their respective environmental pressures. Therefore it would make sense if there's a neurological mechanism that would track a human into their best breeding strategy.

We've passed into a period where resources are massive, and social safety nets are unreal, so r-selective behaviors are strongly encouraged by the environment. That's why the majority of women are acting like they are now, with them unfaithful selves. They're just trying to find the best genes possible for their child.

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>>40323332
I like this theory

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>>40313094
Oi bimbo, you and I have similar stats, what cycle do you use if you're really bulking?
something like 1g test plus deca?

>>40323518
Kahuna is actually a perfect example of r-selective behavior in action.

Lots of risk taking, many partners, short lifespan

>>40323518
Is that you m8?
stataroos?
You in Aus?

>>40323518

They told you to work on forearms and your forearms have gotten bigger

Noticeably bigger in a month

What is your stack?

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>>40323462
Ya I am sympathetic to these competing reproduction models and the behaviors arising from it. Believe me, this is one of the ways I got interested in /pol/. The r- and k- strategies' manifestation in behavior make sense, but I guess I'm not able to USE that abstract knowledge when it comes to the personal situation. Like what's the right way to move forward? I know that most girls will be r- type. And I am k- type in terms of sensibilities. So now what?

It's just that I am so inexperienced that experienced girls kinda just rub me the wrong way. They aren't excited about sex. They're like, "I'll get excited when we're doing it, the idea isn't new to me." But it is new to me! To them, just another dick that they'll move on from. There's a mis-match in experience levels and I know that holding out for a virgin waifu is a losing game that will only result in the experience levels being wider when I give up. And to the right virgin waifu it won't matter.

But then at that point, if it's all just casual, is it purely an expression of my desire? Why indulge it? Don't feel like it makes me any more of a man now that I know it's available. Anyways, this is not something I'm seriously disturbed about. I think I will just blow this girl off and finish a book I've been reading this weekend instead. Will probably be more rewarding in the long term.

>>40323462
>They're just trying to find the best genes possible for their child

Depends on what you mean by "best genes". r-selection is all about low-quality individuals who reproduce quickly, so the best genes in that environment would produce a pretty shitty person.

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>>40323534
Hey I've been making lifespan gains recently cmon. Either way after flatlining twice in August and still being fine all signs point to Kahuna being immortal.

>>40323542
Yes me but no I'm in America.
6' 3 230lbs
Lifts are all unimpressive

>>40323586
Bad wording on my end.

Best possible outcome for gene propagation

>>40323553
Thanks bud I've been hitting them hard;
Wrist roller
Overhand ez bar curls
Heavy shrugs
Hammer curls

All ~3 times a week

Currently transitioning from;
500test
600tren
750eq

To;
750test
600deca
Still on the fence about keeping the EQ in for a longer but if I do it'll be 750

>>40323440
>>If it was possible to fuck out I fucked it out peek.
LMAO

>>40323332
>nterested in weed ("no") and me ejaculating recreationally without any expectation of relationship ("no"). But now there is this libido thing that is present, fighting with my ideas/intellect/whatever.
what the fuck am i reading is this what happens when /pol/ does gear?

>>40323589
How are you and bimb so light?
I'm 6ft and weigh 235, is it small legs?

>>40323633
>250lbs low bf%
>light

>>40323570

Peek ex ex was a certified virgin , bled , not on period.

I lurked the site so long I was sure I had '///made it//// with muh virgin Waifu

Ended with her leaving me.

Like u just don't win lmfao

Like I said peek, u should learn to separate women in your mind...

85% of women roughly fall into the 'short term only' category.

That sort of feel that you are getting is your gut (listen to it) telling you that you shouldn't enter a long term relationship with this woman because she can't pair bond

That doesn't mean you can't fuck her... it will feel good. No downsides anymore, peek, not even like I have where I lose that """high test""" comfy feeling

So do it

14% of women are 'not suitable for long term' and pretending. They're pretending peek. These are dangerous.

1% actually suitable

>Russian GF always feels so cold

She like a freezer lol

>>40323570
I got sex practice out of my way with one chick then met my wife a few months later. Just find a girl with a decent upbringing who managed to not get pozzed by college.

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>>40323570
>The r- and k- strategies' manifestation in behavior make sense, but I guess I'm not able to USE that abstract knowledge when it comes to the personal situation.
It makes a lot less sense at the level of an individual, and more at the level of a culture.

I think you should indulge at the level of practical experience. You can't know how you will percieve an act before you've done it. Just do all the normal risk management, and treat it as an experiment.

>Fuck pussy get knowledge
Love ya peek.

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>>40323629
>what the fuck am i reading is this what happens when /pol/ does gear?
Yup. At least the r9k part is slowly disappearing now that my hormones resemble that of a non-geriatric adult male.

>>40323650
Did your wife mind that you fugged a girl before her? Do you mind that you did so? Meaning, do you wish you would have just waited, or did the sex practice give you some confidence/skills that were essential/necessary in meeting and wooing your wife?

>>40323649
See but the thing is, what is the point of the ones that aren't suitable for long term? Just "muh dick"? Or does it give you some skills/confidence that is valuable when pursuing the good women?

Like, if I were to go out and sleep with 10 guys and then meet a qt virgin waifu, wouldn't she be disgusted that I was so overtaken by concupiscence and couldn't wait for her? Maybe it has been so long that I have been in legit conversation with a woman that I am projecting male (my own) thought patterns onto them. Idk

>>40323629

Glands bby when ur low test like I am or peek was , and you don't fap or have sex, you get this nice comfy feeling like a warm fuzzy feeling and lots of drive and motivation

And if you have sex you lose it and just feel normal

And if you fap, you feel suicidal

You don't remember this from low test days?

Peek spent so long as low test that he demonizes sex because he associates it with the loss of the high test feel he craves

I am considering breaking up with Russian GF and delete Tinder to get that feel back , I dunno, I dunno, I dunno

It is a nice feel, like free TRT, with no needles

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>>40323570
You're interesting I like you. Do I remember you posting back when yolo and farmer were around? Sorry my memory isn't what it used to be

Also do you roid? What you look like? Either way keep posting weird knowledge shit you remind me of Mossad

>>40323633
Idk 230 is heaviest I've ever been. My legs aren't particularly impressive but aren't noticeably underdeveloped. I do PPL but definitely find myself spending more time in the gym hitting accessories on push and pull day.

Leg goals are to look good in short bathing suit at the beach but also be able to fit into Levi 514s which are very flattering.

I'm not really sure what my goals are with roiding and lifting at the moment. I've never been able to really stay clean and see how far I could get with it. Doubt I have the dedication to compete. Don't want to go back to prostituting. What's the middle ground between the 2 that is lucrative? IG model? Personal trainer?

>>40323713
>Did your wife mind that you fugged a girl before her?

Of course not, standards are different for the two sexes.

>Do you mind that you did so?

Quite the opposite. I got over my insecurities about being a virgin and had some sexual practice under my belt for when I met a quality woman.

>>40323713

My pure virgin waifu frequently would ask me about how many women I had slept with which I refused to awnser

She says her "friend told her to ask"

I just always ignored the question

She asked me if I was a virgin and I ignored that too

>what is the point

First of all it feels good.

Second sure, maybe you'll get some confidence and experience dude

Like the first time you fug you really don't know what you're doing too well you just sort of thrust for 3 hours then you cum (yeah I dunno I didn't PE I couldn't cum)

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G2g chest day now, that always clears my mind. Love you all, thank you for such beautiful and helpful comments.

>>40323713
sleep with 10 *girls

>>40323672
>treat it as an experiment.
This is really the most appealing argument to me. Given how fucked in the head I am from all this isolation, it's very possible that I won't even like sex and might get the balls to swear it off forever once I have it. Only thing stopping me is the idea that your first time should be special and with someone you care about, and it does make sense to me. Like this girl embodies all the things that /pol/ vilifies in women. And I am betraying myself by falling for her charms.

We'll see.

>>40323749
I'll post a progress picture in April or May. I JUST (4 weeks ago) got on a respectable UGL TRT and everything before that was a joke. Have been anon posting since last summer, so no, not as much of a regular as you.

I am a long-haired hippy hermit. But ordered some haircut kit so I will be doing a DIY haircut this weekend.

>>40323778

We love u dude stick around stay safe

>>40323621
Why bother with eq?

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>>40323778
Peek help me out with brainstorming please

This is my ideal life right now
>Cozy living space near mostly unbothered forest
>Home gym dungeon where I test my mental and physical limits
>Job that doesn't suck out all my soul and energy
>Potentially a qt but that's not as important as the other bullets

Ideas on a job that would allow me to live this out? Don't feel like it's asking a lot but I have very limited understanding of the job market, especially for someone living outside the city/suburbs.


Well also anyone in the thread can help. I've been stuck on this for weeks, not like I could easily Google an answer.

>>40323639
>6'5
>"""low"""
Ask bimbo if he thinks hes low bf, he was lean at 230 and has been putting on mass lately

>>40323749
have a goal to shred to 4%, when you get there try and bulk til you gain around 4-8kg lbm, rinse repeat, always gets me through times of indecision

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Two fat natty power lifters were giving me death glares at the gym all night earlier. Honestly what the fuck? I try so hard to be friendly and not act out like I used to but tonight I was 2 seconds away from starting shit with them just to let out some anger.

What causes people to be mean for no reason? I have a criminal history of violence but never without provocation.

Not to sound narcissistic but I can't imagine them having any reason not to like me short of "he's on steroids and looks better than me". Sorry idgaf about deadlift numbers or meme routines and focus on looking good?

Fwiw I am always super friendly with everyone at the gym. Kahuna is actually nice guy.

>>40323881
They're jelly, powerlifters are men who failed at looking good and took option 2

>>40323881
lmao wait were they lifting more or less than you. actually it would be funny as shit either way

"wow he lifts more than me and i am fat as fuck, WHY"
"wow he lifts way fucking less than i do and i look like shit!!!"

were they short too

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>>40323730
You don't know you're low test.

In fact Id bet you're AT LEAST average test. Stop diagnosing yourself based on masturbation placebo.
In other news, any appetite suppressants that aren't stimulants? I have some nasty insomnia I can't even handle caffeine.

>>40323881
>>40323900
Post this in plg

>>40323900
Or did one bb show and decided it was gay and didn't actually involve lifting. Btw, only natty powerlifters look like shit.

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>>40323778
Welcome my friend you seem like a welcome addition around here. Gl with haircut, cutting my long hair made me look much better.

>>40323833
EQ gives me vascularity on a level beyond anything else. I also experience pronounced increase in appetite. It's one of my favorite compounds and if it weren't for health concerns I would run it year round. Imo it's the most underrated steroid available.

>>40323877
I like this. As dumb as it sounds my goal now is to get as much size as possible by May then cut down as much as possible by August for a vacation gf has planned wherein I will meet all her friends and their significant others.

Her peers are all wildly successful and educated while I'm from a different part of the country and very different socioeconomic bracket. I'd like to at least look perfect for that week.

Gf is domesticating me but it's ok with me I'm too tired to keep running around getting into trouble. 2017 NO JAIL NO DETOX. 2017 YEAR OF KAHUNA.

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>>40323969
Post back

>>40323958
Strongman is objectively better than PL.

Just so you know.

The fuck is with all these black dudes who have no certifications starting PT businesses? Then they have to make a damn Instagram with their initials and fit after it like **_fit

>>40324036
Monkey see monkey do

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>>40323911
Dude was deadlifting 315lbs! Like are you fucking kidding me if you're going to be numbers oriented at least have impressive numbers.

I was doing accessory work for my back but was tempted to walk over to his barbell, throw another plate on, and pull it a few times just to make a point. I would have done it if I gave a shit about deadlifting anymore. Haven't done dls in a while but no doubt I could still pull 405 for reps.

Never had an issue with strength oriented lifters but these guys really just didn't carry themselves well.

>>40323998
Only back pic I have and it's a couple months old/from fresh out rehab when I just got back on. My current place has a very small bathroom mirror that I can't take a good back pic in but I'll try in a bit since it looks a lot better now.

>>40324024
The best strongmen were powerlifters first baby

>>40324097
P good for straight out of rehab

>>40324124
Maximum specificity on three slow lifts is dumb

>>40324151
Uh huh tell that to kaz and big z

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>>40324159
Neither of them did programming specific to PL, as loads of people do nowadays, they just trained to be big and strong which has great carry over.

>>40323969
Kahuna is my favourite trip, he seems very humble and also likes opiates and also told me to fuck an oxy addicted stripper (i did and it was fun)

>>40324221
Yeah that's not true at all. Kaz was a bencher, the very least "functional lift".

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Who else here /inverted nipples/? Mine look like shit when they're normal but when I'm cold they look regular. FML.

Also lat pull-ins are god tier, Smith machine shrugs are pretty legit too.

>>40324330
Get your nips pierced in the out position

>>40324036
falling for the certification meme
>>40324051
kek
>>40324239
dude is p based

>>40324239
Lmao I remember that I'm glad you went through with it. Dope addicted porn actress was one of my more memorable sexual adventures even though she wound up getting into it with my ex and almost fucking up my relationship.

Thank you for the kind words.

>>40324330
Mine are the opposite, nips are always hard. Not gyno just always kinda hard. Very strange and has been that way my whole life.

When people get low estrogen joint pain, is it all of the joints, or just some?

>>40324540
Only the joints with the lowest estrogen will hurt. Since estrogen is heavy and sinks to the bottom of your body, the joints in the upper half of your body will have lower estrogen than the ones on the bottom half.

So if your upper body joints hurt, you're most likely dealing with low estrogen.

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>>40323844
Fraud give me sage wisdom please and thanks

>>40324472
It was fuckin amazing. It turns out she was going through withdrawals at the time as well, so she came like 20 times. Im happy I took your advice

>>40324564
>estrogen is heavy and sinks
lol really?

>>40324639
Kek I often wish I could hang out with some of you fucks irl.

>>40324671
Just memeing around

>>40323844
Wish I could help but I've only ever lived in densely populated areas. Hate to say it but Reddit might be the place to ask. They're fairly knowledgable about jobs around there, more so than fit imo.

>>40324767
Kek
It was a pretty good meme, to be honest.
I'm just trying to figure out why my elbows hurt.
Could be that I changed the type of curls I was doing, or that I was messing around with low bar squats a couple of days ago (narrow grip is pretty harsh on the shoulders, elbows, and wrists), or that the TRT I started this week is messing with stuff.
I'm betting it's not the TRT (that would be really weird), but it made me curious about the estrogen and joints thing.

>>40324767
Which reddit do I ask?

>>40324808
Almost definitely the lowbar

>>40324808
TRT makes me assume long ester test, meaning if you started it this week it's doubtful that has even begun to impact your hormone levels in any meaningful way.

Like this guy >>40324818 said, lots of people hurt there elbows from compensation when messing with squat form. Just make sure you adjust before it turns into tendonitis. I had it in my elbow and it caused me a lot of misery in the gym for almost a year.

>>40324818
Yeah, probably. I had a friend helping me out with form, but our builds are really different (I'm Nordic, 6ft, broad, he's Asian, maybe 5'6, and narrow), so not everything was transferable.
>anon, you're not supposed to grip that wide, don't touch the collars
>you'll regret it
>grip narrow like me
Too bad I'm not as flexible as he is, that shit was awful.

>>40324875
Actually, I'm using test-e so I can get more familiar with pinning before I run higher doses.
I have to grip pretty wide (it's only really comfortable if I'm touching the collars), but the motor pattern is much better.
Just need to fix my flexibility.

is alex 9% yet?

then why is he postan

>>40324983
He's bulking now

At apparently fucking 4k calories a day. Lel.

Unless that was just one day which i can understand after months of starving to death

>>40325007
>At apparently fucking 4k calories a day. Lel.

He doesn't do anything by half does he

>>40325041
>>40325007

Lmao he's gunna get fat

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Goddammit

I'm going to make my own sign

With blackjack

And hookers

I learned how to play chess lads
It's a great game

>why aren't you playing chess between sets fraud

Came down with bronchitis so workouts are stretched farther between than I'd hoped

Probably need more of a cut than I initially thought

>>40325552
oh hey you're not dead thats cool

>>40325552
how the hell did you just learn to fucking play chess now, arent you like fucking 30, i have known since i was a little ass kid watching barney and shit

then again not everyone is a rich ass jew

>>40325571
Im very lower middle class and grew up playing chess

>>40325566
I've just been off doing things

Everytime I'm gone don't mean I'm dead senpai

>>40325571
30???? Jesus do I look that haggard? I'm pure and young and innocent duh

Though I'm not sure
It just never really came up

People have been telling me I'd like chess for years

My only issue is i get very impatient when the other asshole takes so long to think

>>40325602
well if i had to guess i would pick 30 yeah

>>40325602
>>My only issue is i get very impatient when the other asshole takes so long to think
this makes me want to kill myself

it is like u are going to fucking lose anyway you have half of my IQ and lose every time we play. just fucking go already, it makes no difference.

>>40325617
Well i suppose guessing ages is just one more thing you're shite at m8

>>40325622
Nigga play me some fast chess

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>>40324812
Idk poke around

>>40324917
I'm a huge advocate of front squats, took me a while to work up the wrist mobility but IMO they hit quads and core very well. Both of which are areas I'm trying to bring up.

Any creams/oils that work for fading track marks? Or scars in general for you non junkies. They're really noticing eon the gym and at work it sucks. Off dope for two months by the way senpai

>>40322032
DHEA trandermaly converts to DHT much more on the skin than it does oraly and less so to estrogen like it would orally. its due to the enzymes on the skin

not only that it absorbs better much more so than plain old bioprine and grapefruit juice would aid for that.

1:1 stacked with DIM would help combat the estrogen affects as minor as they are i see no reason to use an AI with DHEA unless your poping grams at time without DIM present since it greatly reduces E2 to begin with.

you can go to amazon and type in bulksupplements and find it cheaply

>>40325649
Cocoa butter

Hgh and other assorted hormones/peptides

>>40325639
nope

and nope

pretty sure tren makes me too much of a dumb(er) animal to play chess

and i have too much important time to waste procrastinating this FUCKING LAB REPORT THAT IS DUE IN 9 HOURS AFTER I FINISHED WRITING A FUCKING TAKEHOME EXAM

>>40325649
post hairline my dick is hard at the thought of it

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>>40325662
>HGH for scars
I like your fucking style

Universe keeps pointing me towards ordering some blacktops

>>40325681
oh shit

will the hgh i am about to run get rid of these stupid fucking roid stretch marks? or at least diminish them you think?

>>40325681
What were you doing in this pic?

>>40325664
Btw out of morbid curiosity wheres the tumor status at have you figured out whats causing crap yet?

>>40322880

Oh shit, Anon, we might be close... I'm in Youngstown.

>>40325696
He's sacrificing blood to zyzz for mad gainz

Fuck donating

>>40325689
Possible, it's supposed to make your skin look/feel great and increase collagen n stuff.

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>>40325672
I weep for those with thinning hair.
>>40325689
I gotta do some reading on Hgh and scarring I'll get back to you tomorrow for sure

>>40325696
At home blood letting masterrace.

>>40325699
oh thats right u have been gone from this /natural bodybuilding and psychedelic drug and retarded philosophy that makes 0 sense/ general

basically all the specialists were useless shit, and i found a medication that is working (slowly...) through reading old ass research papers. so now i am actually getting better. i used to have to walk around with a hat and beard to hide this shit, now i can walk around shaved without a hat and my face just looks fat (which is still better than disgustingly deformed)

and yea

also i just blew $$$ on hgh which makes me feel better.

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>>40325734
>>At home blood letting masterrace.
cough

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>>40314663
lmfao you needed roids to attain that physique holy shittttt lmfaooooooooo

>>40322032
I will do some more reading, but your post kinda confirmed what I thought. You need to understand that I am a selective kind of retarded, I know how to handle test and its million derivates and metabolites but fuck all besides that :D

No mine are fine, gf is suffering like a dog from high cortisol. Gonna just give her PS and ashwaganda (sp?) along with minor lifestyle changes then, thank you.

>>40325758
the guy is 6'5 lmao

>>40325747
Well fuck

Good on you

Never thought we'd see the day

>>40325758
lmfao he could snap you in half with his dick lmfaooo

with all his "experience" taken into account of course

>>40325758
Um mean

>>40325779
You have another pic? Trying to decide if I would sleep with you.
Hypothetically if I wasn't in love with gf I mean

>>40325795
it has a dick in case you haven't picked up on this important piece of information yet

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>>40325795
This is my ass if it helps

>>40325826
damn good job anavar

>>40325824
wtf estp is a trap?

>>40325824
>post cooch
>post porn w/ newbf
>post positive pregnancy test
>still somehow not a reel grill

Lyfe aint fair

>>40325839
HEY I havent seen cooch or pron w/ newbf sauce please

>>40325837
No, he's just taking the piss outta me

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>>40325824
Unfortunately a few months of gay prostitution has left me much more open minded than I once was.

>>40325826
Mirin thickness. Was just talking to my boss earlier about how I've recently gotten into eating ass.

>universe steers me towards HGH
>universe encourages me to east ass
Universe has been growing on me recently

>>40313094
anyone have a video tutorial for actually pinning yourself

i'm so scared to fuck up

>>40325859
>Universe has been growing on me recently
ITS BC YOUVE BEEN OFF FOR TWO MONTHS

Keep going brah, I wanna see you succeed. I wanna see how fuckin JACKED and SWOLE and SUCCESSFUL and HAPPY you can get
KEEP
GOING

>>40325859
Y'know for some reason all the fit guys I meet are really into eating ass

Like rimjobs some kinda delicacy

Shit is all of fraud buying hgh right now?

>>40325869
step 1 take needle
step 2 penetrate your ass

>>40325878
just me and that fat guy who eats fast food all day, forgot his name

kahuna soon

>>40325869
The r/steroids wiki has some.

>>40325879
i asked for a video

you really do nothing right you know.

>>40325882
thank you kindly.

>>40325869
There's nothing to be scared of its honestly so easy. Quads superior choice

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=azF1FoepHuo

>>40325885
Bruh you can seriously just youtube seach 'how to pin quad' or 'how to pin glute'

its so easy

please use your fucking brain

>>40325885
http://www.blacked.com

here you go, plenty of videos

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>>40325876
Thanks mate you're completely right. Very curious to see how huge I can get. Also enjoying the life gains. 2017 YEAR OF KAHUNA.

>>40325878
I was never into it before, never even considered it. But gf loves it and always wants it, she like anal a lot too which isn't really my thing.
I enjoy bondage a lot which she's coming around to.
Look at us making compromises like a healthy couple.

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>>40323649
>No downsides anymore, peek, not even like I have where I lose that """high test""" comfy feeling
What do you mean by this? I think if I over-analyze this from a hormonal point of view, I am basically glorified fapping using her body and getting some skin-to-skin contact releasing oxytocin that mitigates some of the post cumming cortisol effect. It is hilarious when I think of it like this. I laugh at 2 things, how absurd such a situation is and how absurd my mind is to take something as natural as sex and look at it that way.

Also with these high mileage girls I just CANNOT get the thought that they have rotten holes out of my mind. Like this girl in particular told me she has had 10 different dicks in her (age 19). WTF. Apparently she required them all to wear condoms but she sure didn't while giving them oral. Idk. I just think CONTAMINATION.

I do see the potential for sex providing some lasting benefit. I just don't know if that lasting benefit comes from this type of sex. It's all about lasting benefit. You know this alex. You make fun of all those McDonald eating people because they cannot understand that it provides no lasting benefit. Or rather, it is not the best choice they could make for their overall happiness.

>>40323753
Thanks for relating your experience. The fact that your situation ended up in a positive outcome has me looking at this situation in a different light. Still a mental barrier there but I see that it doesn't HAVE to be purely wasteful/dissipative to have pre-marital sex.

>>40323844
>>40324603
I will respond to you. I suspect I am close to the character limit. Great post. I do have ideas. How old are you?

>>40323969
Thanks man, I really appreciate your posts here. Great spirit. I often don't have anything to add but I really appreciate your attitude. FWIW you've truly got me believing that this year is your year!

>>40325659
Thank you grandpa! I saved your post and will order this in the morning.

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>>40326099
the grape fruit and bioprine is for oral adminstration mind you.

200mg oral with those two in tandam is good enough

trandermal with hand sanitizer or some other homebrewed carrier means 200mg can be droped to 100mg easily.

if you want it to help you get big or pct then 500mg of both trandermal helps alot in keeping your energy up and soreness down.

oraly its less efffective. unless you use those two.

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>>40325659
>1:1 stacked with DIM would help combat the estrogen affects as minor as they are i see no reason to use an AI with DHEA unless your poping grams at time without DIM present since it greatly reduces E2 to begin with.
Yeah, now that I'm reading these articles on oral vs. transdermal I think I will just try out 2% DHEA cream with no DIM for now. I occasionally take 12.5 asin when I get paranoid that I'm getting onset of high E sides and with more of the DHEA going to DHT transdermally I'm not that worried about omitting DIM. I do like the idea and benefits of DIM. Had bought two bottles of it but the thing is that I am too forgetful with dosing powders. With pills I just use my pill organizer. I haven't dosed potassium, ALCAR, MSM powders in days because I always forget or feel like it will take too long.

I appreciate your clarification. I think you were the one who recommended DIM to Moosey? Those were great posts where I learned a lot about the substance I had been using because I casually read about it somewhere.

>>40326130
Yeah I figured bioperine and grapefruit was for oral. I will skip that route. Availability is like 3% maybe more with the availability potentiators. Interesting that you are mentioning a homebrewed transdermal. Great idea! Sounds like a fun project. I will look into this, since I can easily get the DHEA powder raw. The readymade creams seem to use oils and aloe vera as the carrier - might try that out:
>Dhea 50 Cream has MSM, Aloe Vera, Shea Butter, & Coconut Oil for fast absorption

What got you so interested in this?

>>40325747
>retarded philosophy that makes 0 sense
u wot m8

>>40325892
Hi ESTP, glad you're back and seem to be doing well :)

About this video, the thing at 2:35 he does where he pinches his thigh before sticking it feels funny. Idk if it works bc he's using a small needle but it's weird when I do it IRL. But then I get pip pinning quads no matter what (whether I pinch or not) so maybe I'm being over critical.

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Considering hopping on the gas again, I recently turned 20. 2 years ago, I did a 20 week cycle of test, a couple of weeks of tren and sdrol as well, and I fucking loved it. Insane gains every gym session.

I however quit the gear because I got in a relationship and saw no reason to continue because I was concerned of any eventual health concerns.

Right now, the only thing holding me back from hopping on again is that I'm kind of worried about the dependency on the drugs later in life, what made you choose this is the right way to go?

Also, how does this cycle sound?
week1-5
50mg tren A ed
week 1 - fucking shredded
250 test e ew
600 tren e ew
caber and adex if needed.

Your thoughts on using "cut mix" (50mg tren A, 50mg test P, 50mg mast) ED to bulk with? I want to lean out while adding LBM

>>40323844
OK this is a dream that is very close to my heart. I am going to end up in the situation you described. It is my aim. I am not so set on the forest aspect. I find a lot of beauty in the desert and also in plains-landscapes. But I think the general aesthetic/theme is common.

There are two paths to this end, IMHO.
>do a "soul sucking" job that compensates you very well for the effort for some amount of time so you can instantly get to a nice steady-state NEET life (delayed gratification)
>try to "build up to" this life by getting pieces in order one by one (slow release gratification)

The latter option is ideal, but I feel that it is a bit riskier in a way. It may lead you to serially chase jobs that are low stress and low paying, and in the process delay the actual attainments you are after. Also, there's the question of security. How stable are you even if you get the things you want with these low paying low stress jobs? Can you take the hit if your car gets totaled on the way to work? If you (or your parents) incur medical expenses? I know these things don't happen in our dreams but we're trying to make dreams reality so let's not discount the possibility and need to be prepared for such events.

That is why I want to at least explore with you the blueprint of the first option. I assume you are young and not TOTALLY burnt out yet. USE THAT to your advantage. As you get older your tolerance for bullshit and taking orders goes down. So you want to use your younger years to position yourself so that in your older years you can have a job that is better suited to your desired steady-state. Now, what you want to do is get a job where you can work remotely (IMHO). I personally get the idea that there is a hermit component to your ideal life but I might just be projecting.

Cont.

Hey guys, so I've been trying to deal with MPB, nothing severe just thinning on my front no receded hairline yet, so I want to nip it in the bud (21yo)

But this also means I don't want to fuck with things that severely reduce DHT, since like I said its not severe MPB

I have been searching the archive for useful posts regarding it, been liking Mossad's posts hopefully he will see this, I noticed swisstemple had said that 2016 is the "year of the cure" and shit like that, but is the verdict right now that nothing new or revolutionary is available?

My thought process is I don't want to do something that has the potential to fuck with my DHT even when I hop off for a year as I've read about some fringe cases like that, especially if there is a cure coming out very soon that doesn't fuck with that shit

So this isn't a matter of regrowing hair at a receded hairline, just regrowing hair that has thinned maybe 20-30% in my scalp, I'm considering just taking some castor oil biotin and some shit like that, and a dermaroller, would this protocol be good enough? Sorry for the long-winded post

>>40325041
I say this way too often lately, but

WHATEVER IT TAKES

>>40326319
>mfw looking back at my post noticing fucking reddit spaces
Oh well, hopefully it enhances readibility

>>40326285
>>40323844
What sort of jobs are in-demand (read: high paying) but can be done remotely?

- Managerial stuff is hard to do remotely. So don't just be a business major company drone who's trying to rise up the ranks to be a manager. Unless you like that and don't mind being involved with society in your steady-state ideal.

- STEM stuff is also hard to do completely remotely. CS related jobs are the exception but I don't hold those jobs in too high regard because I'm not convinced they are any less soul sucking than traditional engineering jobs unless you have a passion for it. Traditional engineering jobs are very team oriented. Won't be remote. I think we will see a lot of the jobs in this field be outsourced (moreso than has already happened). Unless you KNOW you're talented enough to be the cream of the crop, I would avoid.

While we're talking about "passion" let me just say that whatever you're passionate about will make the best job. I am not passionate about anything that will make me money so I BECOME passionate about what will make me the most money. If that makes sense.

- Jobs that rely on verbal skills. Law. Writing. Journalism (just please don't work for MSM). Consulting. Now this is the holy grail of what can be done remotely. If you're blessed with good verbal skills, here's a job category that is very hard to export just because of its nature. COMMAND of language is required, not just mere acquaintance with it.

- Medicine. This can't be done remotely yet, but it can enable you to earn so fucking much that you don't have to work the whole year. Very fulfilling too. Med school requires some pretty fucking crazy stamina.

- Day trading. MASTER RACE. You usually will only be able to do this once for a straight up living you've made a tidy sum doing one of the above careers for a while.

nandrolone vs tren for mass and size (excluding temporary mass/size like water etc).

Anyone have experience with heavy deadlifts, rackpulls, and farmers walks for building upper back/traps? Opinions?

>>40326343
I believe Deca is superior

>>40326357
I was going to use nandro cyp in this case if \i did nandro

>>40326332
>>40323844

Now why am I so biased about remote work? I think the "soul sucking" nature of work comes from either not doing what you like or being on someone else's timetable/schedule. Now being on someone else's timetable is almost inherent to any job where you are not your own boss. But the mental effects of this are heavily mitigated when you get to the point where you can work remotely. The consecrated space of an "office" is itself a symbol and instrument of captivity, and the remote work life frees you from that paradigm and allows work to take on a whole new light. So you can free yourself from some of the stresses of a traditional job while still getting the upside (good rate of $$$ flow).

But if you disagree with the importance of remote work or are okay with the traditional office setting we can discuss what is available within that paradigm. Regardless, now let's consider what is possible once you have earned your lump sum from one of the above paths.

END GOAL:
At this point you want to try and transition to PASSIVE INCOME. Melancholy of Swole doesn't post much here anymore but if he's ever around, pick his brain about this. You might have heard of a saying "the first million is the hardest to make." MAKE YOUR MONEY WORK FOR YOU. Buy up properties and rent them, flip homes, start a business, there are tons and tons of ways to make passive income. You will feel alive. Like you're hustling all day. Your job is to just b urself.

Sure, you could just build up slowly to your ideal state by taking it easy the whole way there. But why take it slow? Let's get there fully and let's get there fast! That's my thinking. Man I wish you had seen Melancholy's setup. He does whatever he wants just to give his time some structure. Passive income from properties that he and/or his family owns. Travel whenever for whatever reasons. Study/learn whatever for any reason.

aztimer111 gmail if you want to continue further. I can't clogging thread with long posts.

>>40326357
Heavy farmer walks (and yoke carrying for that matter) gave me traps like a plow ox, stronkman here so I have been doing them for ages by trade. No real opinion on the other two, I do both as part of my training (well rack pulls only for shits and giggles with the mates kek) but not enough to really pinpoint any back growth to them specifically.

>>40326332
>COMMAND of language
any tips on how to acquire? consulting is pretty much the only thing my degree will be good for

>>40326406
Reading lots of both fiction and nonfiction, cheap public speaking/oratory courses, boinking haughty English majors in college.

>>40326242
anyone? :)

>>40326242
>what made you choose this is the right way to go?
Personally, I am doing TRT because I have really shitty natural production of testosterone. Hypogonadism and all. So to me, the alternative is shitty.

You might some people with perfectly fine natty productions that still choose to do lifelong bnc and if I had to guess it would be because they know that they want the effects of steroids in their lives. Also because they understand the health concerns and are (1) staying on top of them to mitigate their dangers/risks or (2) dgaf because the positives of their steroid use are worth whatever the negatives (if any) that it may have.

I'll let someone else weigh in on your cycle but the formatting is kinda confusing to me. Are you doing both tren A and tren E in week 1? Or are you doing them both for weeks 1-5?

>>40326319
Are you supplementing zinc? I think that's a possible culprit and mossad seemed to think it was on the right track too.

Have you heard of the glory that is the masT/Moosey meme stack?

Pumpkin Seed Oil
Saw Palmetto
Scalp Exercises
Derma stamp/needle (Moosey variation)

Then let's get into the oil part of this all. 5% peppermint oil, 5% lavender oil, 5% rosemary oil. There are studies on these. Look em up. If you combined all of these you'd probably see some decent results.

Any particular reason you're averse to using minox? There are plenty, just wondering what your reason is.

>>40326406
Read a lot. Develop courage in your own personal convictions. Read stuff by authors from antiquity who had very different oratory sensibilities than modern authors. We are remiss when we do not avail ourselves of their standards of mental lucidity and rhetorical mastery. Study philosophy. I am very biased in what I think contributes to a well-rounded person, but to me, this stuff is ESSENTIAL. Just enriches life. In the end, command of language is born out of mental repose, I think. Firmness and clarity in what it is you aim to communicate.

>>40313190
Over the counter supplements proven to work

Pumpkin Seed Oil
Black Currant oil
Saw Palmetto
Pygeum
Stinging Nettle Root

Note: Of the above, Pygeum had by far the strongest side effects on me. It almost totally killed my ability to get an erection and when I could, the orgasms were very weak, almost nonexistent. Also, it makes your semen thick like tapioca pudding, which in turn leads to it getting stuck in your urethra for 30 minutes at a time until it leaks out. VERY unpleasant.

After about 9 months, Saw Palmetto started to have the same effect.

>>40326453
Doing both tren E and A, first 5 weeks as a kickstart. I've got some experience with tren and it worked wonders for me.

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Gonna switch to Test E for the first time what to expect? All I've ever done is sust.

>>40326453
I started supplementing zinc since a month ago, this hair thinning thing has been going on since probably a year, so it's arguably not from that

Indeed I picked up on that including some other stuff, I really like just going through the archives filtering through the shitposts and the people that have genuine advice, anecdotal or otherwise evidence, and I just compiled it into a notepad and sort it out.

People are saying don't apply anything until 24h after rolling, but then you got this guy on youtube dermarolling and then applying oil right after, is the 24h thing only for minox and such?

Notice I didn't mention I was averse to minox, just things that fuck with DHT too much, I think I would be down to use something like minox just considering that something like that or FIN and DUT would be excessive for a little thinning at my front, might be eating my words tho if it gets any worse

>>40326453
aw yiss the oil stack is still shilled. I am so happy to help people, fuck what swiss temples says about peppermint oil, his counterstudy is for macrophages. be sure to add castor and pso as carrier.

>>40326460
>Pumpkin Seed Oil
yesss
>Black Currant oil
somewhat of a meme
>Saw Palmetto
yes, sides for some people
>Pygeum
fuck this shit even if it works
>Stinging Nettle Root
yes. you can even wash your hair and beard with consumption-ready (albeit stronger than usual) homebrewed stinging nettle tea and see minor longterm growth. awesome shit.

>>40313198
>>40313209
on the genetics thing, i have been on a 500mg test cycle and no hair loss... does that mean im in the clear or do i still need to be worried?

>>40326380
not op but this was amazing, thanks

>>40326500
Better blood levels.

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>>40325859
>>40325878
>eating ass
t b h f a m I feel it

then again I also like going down on a chick after I've nutted in her, I'm just glad the girlies like that too

>>40327404
>being a degenerate
>posting varg

??

>>40326546
Still worry if you have future plans of upping the dose or blast different stuff. I myself tolerate doses up to 500 or so rather well, but upping after that (and with anything 600+ for sure) I start to shed like a sick dog. Might be me though. Does your maternal grandfather have/show signs of MPB?

>>40327404
dat self-cucking tho

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>>40327423
>what is irony

Am I still considered a degenerate if I like to keep it confined to the bedroom and a cuban cigar manufacturing imageboard?

>>40327431
have some OC for the inspo

>>40327465
preemptive self-cucking as a way to mitigate and shield off exogenous cucking, deliberate cuck catharsis if you will. hoooly shit this is a more intricate and layered concept than I thought, lemme ponder this for a bit (and eventually try to meme it on /pol/) :O

>>40327488
>>40327465
>/fraud/
>come for the steron discussion
>stay for the eloquent late night shitposting

Beautiful.

>>40319996
May cert is fine...
And what do u mean by best gym to PT?
Most paid? Easiest to get.clients?
Honestly train ppl at home/start your.own business it's the only way you'll make a decent living off of full time pting

>>40319996
Meant **any cert is fine

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>>40325552
Woah you actually look cute now, plus blonde hair and grey/blue/green eyes are my ultimate weakness.

>>40325826
Fug. How much did you charge for sumfuk?

>>40323933

>appetite suppresents that aren't stims

Broccoli lol.

Like 100 calories in 5 lbs of it, just stuff your face until your belly feels full.

>>40325041
>>40325007

>implying I'm not eating 4K every day

Time to get fat

Can always starve myself desu all good

Here's what I was told : ' eat +250 then -250 slow and steady'

Here's what I thought was logical : 'force feed and fast'

>>40325689

!!!!!

Srs? My stretch marks can go away? What about the discoloration son my face from acne?

Derma roller +hgh?

>>40326099

Peek, we already talked about this

Natty fap= dead dick, depression

Nattt sex= feel normal, some libido, some happiness

Natty no fap no sex= see girls in yoga pants, almost have a stroke, feel heart pounding so fast it's gonna explode, talking to girls at the gym, feel really happy, like I can do anything, feel more driven and like it's more clear to me what I need to do.

i like that no fap no sex feel a lot, to the point where (I can relate to what glands says. Like he squeezed his phone so hard it snapped, I just don't know wtf to do when I see women around, same feel)

You like that feel so much that you trained yourself not to have sex so you could cling to it

You are pinning, time to untrained yourself.

>lasting benefits

First of all you get to shitpost more on /fit/ make sure you grab screens. Second of all you will learn to fuck, get more confidence.

Peek, do you honestly feel like you are capable of giving a woman a really hard, through pounding? No ? Because you have no experience, get the practice, enjoy yourself

is there a way to kill your sex drive without crashing your e2 since that means fucking up lipids and feeling like shit

sick of this shit

>>40328016

Have sex

>>40328037
:^)

tfw dreamed that i was better

>>40328016
Abuse antidepressants. Not memeing.

>>40328049
inb4 side effects

why does everything good have the shittiest ass side effects. cant even just bodybuild in peace while i am fucking disgusting and unfuckable, have to constantly be thinking about stupid fucking girls

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>2kg of pork shoulder
>200 calories 19g protein per 100grams RAW
>slow cook it for 5 hours for some awesome pulled pork
>like, literally 300-400ml+ of pure fat/juices are floating and eliminated from the final product.

Clearly this entire portion isn't 4000 calories anymore as so much fat has been eliminated, unfortunately I can't really calculate the true calorie count.

tfw not intelligent enough to be a biochemist so I can properly do my nutrition.

>>40328088

>in the gym
>trying to get big come on
>phone goes beep beep beep beep
>'new tinder match!'
>XXX on okcupid writes
>beeep beep bepp
>beep
>beep
>beeo
>stupid reptile part of my brain is going to answer this
>see girls in yoga pants
>stare for like a minute
>miss one of my supersets

>>40328088
Well libido suppression IS a side effect of them kek

But yeah I see your point, similar here for me albeit by far not as severe as you (some offense).

>>40328117
>and eliminated
what is sauce reduction and taters/biscuits and gravy

>>40328223

im cutting now so I shall have to pass on that greasy luxury.

>>40328228
>4k calorie pork on cut
>le skeptical costanza

I see though. Sucks to be you. Send it to me, am struggling to hit bulk macros.

>>40328245

Did I say I eat the entire thing in one day? use that soft matter inside your skull.

plus its probably like 3-3.5k cal after half a protein shaker worth of fat has melted off.

>>40328261
>on a cut
>estimating low rather than high

never, making it, memes, etc.

>>40328270

>not having a positive outlook

what is the definitive book or guide for aesthetics as far as meals and steroid dosage?

also will the police drug test me for roids if im an officer? I know a lot of them use roids but unsure whether they cycle off or just never get tested.

you dont get broken dick from test, just dbol right? and test doesnt cause gyno?

Am i reacting badly to the oil?

Since recently when I inject the spot gets all swollen, hard and I get flu like symptoms a few days later that lasts like 2-3 days. Feeling weak and feverish. I cant even sleep properly when that happens

Injection technique didnt change and Test+Tren is from the same source and didnt change

What do I do?

>>40328290

>not expecting the worst and then praying for the best

>>40328315

google the 'chest brah revised version 13 guide to asthetics and losing your virginity'

>>40328358
Shitty brewer probably.

>>40328344
Wut. U gon die.

>>40328344
you're an idiot

do at least 5 minutes of research

>>40328344
wtf is this shit?

>>40328261
>use that soft matter inside your skull
None to speak of. My skull is only filled with stale memes and despair.

>>40328379
Happened with some other 'lab' too

>>40328016

>tfw it's obvious to you who glands is when he anon posts

>>40322089

new thread

new thread

only REAL new thread

new thread

>>40328568

>>40326528
The reasons to be averse to minox are reduced collagen synthesis and risk or heart problems. Papers are out there for both. As for applying shit after rolling, you basically don't want to apply anything inflammatory right after.

Check out: http://dermaroller.owndoc.com/dermaroller-instructions.pdf

Page 35. I used infadolan cream afterwards as recommended. Owndoc is a great resource for derma needing ideas and thoughts. Check it out!

>>40326536
>castor and pso as carrier.
Genius. I didn't think that far ahead and have a ton of jojoba that I'm using as a carrier. Since I'm not making big batches I could conceivably switch carriers though... Got a recommendation for good PSO? The amazon reviews all seem to conflict about quality and lots of people complain that the oil is "compromised" because of plastic packaging. Hard to tell what the best option is.

>>40326574
Thank you :) I'm glad you liked it.

>>40327791
You're right alex. I am addicted to no fap no sex. Fapping on TRT is surreal. Like I feel a little sleepy maybe, but I don't hate my life that night or the day after or anything. It feels like cheating. Did it once and now I don't trust it haha. I appreciate the care behind your advice and I don't take it or any of the other advice on this topic lightly. Will just take me some time to wrap my head around.

Issues are around the 1st time being with a quality person. Fair stubbornness on my end? A precondition for first time. Now that I'm not a beta mindset and can talk to girls, I will wait a month or two and see if it's possible to find a quality person despite everything in me saying it isn't. This girl is not gonna give up trying to get my D so I consider her a reserve option. Remember, to me, delayed gratification is no biggie. The first 4 years of studying philosophy I got NOTHING. But now it is what keeps me alive/happy.

I understand the appeal of the "just for fun" thing but can't bring myself to be at that stage from the get-go.

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>have dinner with mum
>tells me I've gotten too big and look ugly

But you said I was your handsome baby boy...

>>40325847
Ruined

I'm 32 years old and have been lifting for 5 years. Injuries set me back a few times (obviously) and I did lots of hypertrophy routines where I just increased volume and didn't move weight up often

>6'4
>210lbs
>DB bench 110lbs x 6
>Squat 265x10 (rarely squat more than 3plate)
>DL 455x1

I don't OHP because I have bad shoulders

What do? Just trying to cut a bit and gain some more mass. I can only go-to the gym 3x a week and I run/box 3x a week

Routine help? Starting TRT soon

>>40325826
You have any tips on navar stacks for girls?
And side effects?
Is the down stairs fine or any body hair or voice or anything??
Thanks sweetie :)