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Do you guys take any joint support supplements? My knees have always been fucked (I think my growth spurts were too extreme or something). I usually just take msm and condroitin but I feel like ditching my ai for a while since I'm on cruise dose test but also tren/mast/mestanolone/mesterolone.

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>>40255356
I think it's Paris Roxanne.

>>40255597
Omega is 'bout it.

>>40255597
I'm not aware of any actual research that says glucosamine does shit for joints that placebo doesn't do. I'm not sure if fish oil helps mine or if it's in my head, but I take that.

>>40255597
I think therapeutic exercises will probably do more for you than supplements.

Or you can ask jerry about sketchy peptides to inject.

GOD DAMN MAST.
I CAN'T FEEL MY ARMS.

THE PUMP.

>>40255597
>muh joints
>on tren/mast/mestanolone/mesterolone

How about taking a compound that's good for your joints?

>>40255713
Anything besides nandrolone?

>>40255927
EQ, Anavar

>>40255597

Dude how is Mestanolone + Mesterolone

I posted about making this combo a while back because I'd never heard of anyone doing it

>always bouncing betwen chub and very light skninny fat as teenager, gaining fat on depressive episodes and retarded dieting when caring
>discover /fit/ couple years ago, decide to stablish a proper exercise and diet routine
>decide to workout at home with my fathers weights since seems more pratical and fuck it, im just starting
>lose a lot of weight, become a much better proportionwise skinny fat(workout literally everyday, counting calories) but can never make it past a certain size nor bellow around 15% bf
>now bouncing between only 4kg difference, so looking always about the same life is much better and all that shit
>as i look honestly normie good and not really progressing i give up my body building aspirations and focus hard on other things in life, but still lifting erryday and watching what i eat
>flash foward, still living life like this. kinda sad about the nogains but not that much
Now a little off the weights:
>start having trouble with erections sometimes at 21, think its somehow psycological even tho never had it as a kid
>just carry viagra in my wallet now, use it sometimes and the other times are just not as good
>gradually up the intake over the course of two years and start using it everytime since last september
>low libido in general, pass alot of clear opportunities of hook up/date and just keep coming always to these same two girls
>same w tinder, lot of matches but almost no talk
>not really socially akward
>feel really bad about the lacking ambition in my sex life, see my friends talking about all this women and decide to change it but turns out requires too much energy invested
Now back at the weights:
>join a gym a couple months ago to finally leave humanity and the limitations of homegym behind
>even tho 15-16% bf decide to bulk cause im so conffident now on my habillity to manage my bw
>gaining too fast and too much fat, eat less and still high fat/muscle rate
>start connecting dots and ask father for some bloodtests(he is a surgeon)

>>40256030
DRAMATIC PAUSE
>372ng/ml at 23
>possible subclinical hypothyroidism as TSH is on the higher end and t3/t4 on the lower
Welp. Gotta pin it dudes, im convinced.
Im going on an endocrynologist on the 21st but have managed to find some sources and probably gonna buy some test before anyway as i seen theres a resistance to putting 20yolds on TRT.
Do you guys have tips on esters? Im thinking E 2 times a week as is easier to find and cheaper than P. Would i need to buy the AE right away with the stack or is it manageble in a way i can order only if i have problems with E2?
Also, general worthreading material would be much appreciated.
Disregard english mistakes and pls no bully
thansk bros

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Meaaaat

Starting deca/tren stack this week fuck prolactin.

Also my estro is totally whacked. Did no AI for a while and just reintroduced it cause I was breaking out. Having a hard time finishing during sex. Made my girl cry last night from cumming so hard though so that was a cool thing.

>>40256042
r/steroids wiki

JBFLGF

>>40256084

The beginnings of thicc

Don't do deca and Tren dude

I did NPP and Tren and turned into leaky tit

>>40256137
>not drinking the homemade milk for extra gains.

its like you want to stay poor with the bovine jew milk :P

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500/mg Test Cyp weekly
40/mg Anavar daily
.5 Arimadex eod
400/mcg frag hgh 176-191 daily
will have pct when finished

Starting it in 48 hours.

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>>40256137
Cmon bb I gotta try it once. So much cheaper and less oil than DHB. I figure blast deca/tren now and get as thick as possible then tren/DHB for summer.

Gonna be eating caber on the regular too.

Also current gf bicep shot. She's 7 inches taller than ex so no womanlet genetics but her insertions seem pretty good. Gotta get her on var and leaner.

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>>40256215
Womanlet ex for comparison. This one dieted better and ate var.

New one will come around sooner than later I am confident.

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>>40256182
>that pic

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>>40256455

>>40256470
Christ.
My turn for another qt3.14azngf when?

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Okay not thicc anymore

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>>40256470
FTFY

>>40256503
Is the gift her dick?

>>40256510
apparently its not futa

http://www.project-imas.com/wiki/Mika_Jougasaki

but you could summon jerry with the promise that it is

>>40256486
Solid. High test only?

Remember the good old days when everyone would post what they were running in their name?

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I posted what I'm running.

>>40256522
Just 350 test it's as if you can look good and lift at low doses wow

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>>40256503
Whyd you post the worst of the 2 sisters

>>40256551
>sisters
Don't think that's how dicks work

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>>40255504
I got my test results today, total T at 357ng/dL.


Test range goes from 156 to 778ng/dl so no prescription from the doc. Should I just jump on test by myself?

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>>40256560
yes

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>>40256551
havent watched or played idol master either way i baited you out LOL


>>40256558
futa sister on non futa sister, please no more boner not today.

had to cut out most of my supplements to get rid of water weight hopeful ill be clear by Monday. need to lose it.

>>40256583
Just eat letro and Ritalin.

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>>40256595
i assume you cut out a shit ton of water wheight with that ? got plenty of DMAA and DIM so ill be blasting that.

>>40256608
There's no blasting dim. You should get an actual AI. Like letro.

Is it in bad taste to make fun of the retards outside of this thread?

>>40256586
This moron thinks that he'll make gains with a bench barbell set he bought that maxes at 55lbs.

>>40256631
yeah fuck it i should just eat the dough and buy it.

if I already have gyno before steroids should I take nolvadex or arimidex? letro did nothing on cycle for my gyno just killed my sex drive.

Currently dating a famous porn star, AMA.

>>40256721
hows it like to be bimbos roommate ?

>>40256730
She's retired, did girl on girl only with an exception of an ex boyfriend.

>>40256737
Faye reagan ain't it

>>40256721
Any different than fucking your run of the mill tinder 6/10?

Also give us a hint

>>40256749
Naw, but just as hot.

>>40256737
for some reason i feel like lesbos get paid less for porn due to its lack luster excitement.

and by retired you mean 25 then ?

>>40256752
I will ask her later if I can post her photo.


She's waaay better at blow jobs than any girl I've been with and she's a good kisser and always wants sex, other than that there's nothing special. Feels like banging any other girl.

I was nervous at first that I wouldn't match her skills, but she tells me porn sex doesn't feel super great because of camera angles and really long days ruin the fun.

>>40256781
thats why cocaine and drugs exist, yah need the endurance

>>40256781
She's right.

>>40256761
She legit has a multi-million house. But super down to earth.

Does doing large doses of pharmaceutical stimulants before a workout count as fraud?
not like if it's a steroid im not fucking retarded I know it's not a steroid but can I still say I'm natty if I use it to prolong my workout.

>>40256793
Had zero fun stories, says some girls have gross vag.

No drugs allowed on set, everyone is professional.

Of course she was shooting for Brazzer, Naughty America, etc. So not sketchy studios.

>>40256799
Un natty stimulant would be like halotestin. Why do you give a shit about having a natty card?

>>40256799
> count as fraud?
everything does just make sure you doing things with knowledge and proper dosages.

your natty card barely matters and no one cares since even drug testing wont cover steroids

>>40256802
> everyone is professional

hard to belive but if you got product to sell i could see that be a large factor in the shooting since respect keeps the actors coming back or staying in the business.

>>40256821
I asked if there were creepy guys in any of the crews or producers who wanted to fuck but it basically sounds like a 9-5 job with more dicks.

>>40256799
The natty or not question is kinda ridiculous the more you think about it

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>>40256818
I was fucking a no name dirty fetish porn actress for a while, had literally the worst track marks I've ever seen. They made mine look like freckles.

They made her pay $60 for a ride to the set kek but they paid her a lot of cash and she would usually just blow the driver instead of pay the sixty.

Even they eventually fired her for too much drugs and they were some sketchy no name studio.

>>40256832
what was her side job ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8QDQ1mMTa0

>>40256714
How bad is the gyno?
If it's really bad, you're fucked.

>>40256849
She says 90% of big actresses escort.

>>40256884
Of course they escort! They set up Vegas appointments and charge anywhere from 5k-15k depends on how big of a name they are.
They don't get rich from the movies, they get rich from the branding.

>>40256882
people call me saggy man tits now. and cone tits and rocket tits. is surgery a better option? I seen a few botched surgeries I'm worried.

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>>40256558
They're girls

>>40256583
You should
Its spiritually by gainax

>>40256560
100mg got me to 800ng/dl
Do it

>>40255597
Mod grf, ghrp 2 (and tb500 if its really bad)

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>>40256909
If they are bad enough to get seen with clothes on, surgery is your only option.

puffy nips and a little bit of gyno is correctable, but you are past that point.

>>40256918
gyno surgery is $2000-6000. Better start saving now. Maybe when I'm 40 I can stop having bitch tits. 25 now.

>>40256182
Have you run 40mg Var straight up before?

>>40257018
Go to Mexico, it's a few hundred. Nothing wrong with Mexican hospitals, they're completely clean and it's a simple surgery.

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>>40257043
Yeah, it helped but it didn't give me the kick I wanted. It leans you out a little faster if your diet is on point.
The biggest thing I noticed was my recovery time improved a lot with it.

Having a hard time finding caber in aus, is there any other way to lower prolactin?

>>40257050
spain supposedly has cheap surgery.

>>40257052
I've got Anavar in 10mg tabs for my next cycle (Test and Tren), was aiming at 20mg since i havent had Var before, would it be better to start it mid cycle and up the dose to 50mg daily?

>>40257073
Take Zinc

>>40257075
I would actually trust Mexico over Spain, I have lived in South America. I know my shit.

>>40257102
fixed your gyno but your missing a kidney or two.

you visit mexico much? hows central compared to the coasts ?

>>40257090
20mg won't do shit for you. Especially if you are on tren and test.
add it in towards the end and use it as part of a taper.
50/mg after you stop the tren will help lean you out.

>>40257073
Vitamin E and P5P can make a dent in it but you need a DA like prami, caber or bromo to really nuke prolactin.

>>40257050
its cheap because if they fuck up they either sell you into slavery or kill you for your organs

>>40257102
>>40257109

>Mexico
>Better than Spain


You kidding right? Spain is the safest country in the EU

>>40257152
my inner pol is telling me its the same country but i know spain is the land of retirements for the EU like Florida is for america.

>>40257162

Mexico, a country pretty much ran by drug cartels is the same as one with the lowest crime rates in the entire EU? You might have lived in S.A but certainly you haven't set foot on Spain.


Not wrong on the retirement part.

>>40257179
ill visit Europe eventually like natT is going to. infact i should start planing now.

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They both suck. Let's talk about juice instead.

>>40257188

Mexico prices are very different to Spain, despite the common held believe about the Iberian Peninsula on 4chan, don't expect to get a good gyno surgery for anything else than 3500€ (3700$).

I know, cause I recently when to a couple surgeons to prepare for my own.

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>>40255494
>Russian psyops are a very real thing
>Wait, so you've hopped off the bandwagon and you're willing to accept that now?
I am only accepting of the truth.
The statement that "the Russians are super l337 hax0rs and hacked the election" is false in every possible way.

this is now /gyno general/

>>40257221
What's her face has these panties.

>>40257219
sounds cheap as shit, thats like 2 paychecks and a little bit of the third one for the flight and recovery time if there is any needed.
>>40257235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKgf5PaBzyg

this is how you fix your gyno vid related

>>40257243

What's the average price in the US?

By the way, there's no ''bad parts of Spain'' the health system is the same everywhere, and the farther south you go, the cheaper the prices, the nicer the people and the better the weather. Barcelona is probably the most expensive city to get the surgery on (might run you 5k).


Good luck, and I hope you enjoy your visit if you decide to come.

>>40257270
looks like 8 grand is a normal price. i havent shoped for it since i dont have it.

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>>40257270
3k-6k in the states.
Bostin Loyd got it for 6k.

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>>40257240
What's her face needs to make me some kimchi!

>>40257281
>>40257284

Crazy stuff

>>40257281
>there are people willing to cheap out on plastic surgery and go to some shithole to save some money, and risk being permanently disfigured

also hello fellow fridaynight losers

>>40257760
Its saturday dickhead

>>40257772
:))))) ameriguh :)))) dime zones :)))))))))))

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Forearms catching up
Calves on the other hand..

>>40257799
>roiding for this

>>40257752
>gets free medicine from parents
>fucks it up horribly

i dont see how it can get any worse

>>40257843
Wat

God damn people post shit at me that doesn't even make sense anymore

>>40257848
get medical for free from parents to fix your glands

what happens is that it failed miserably, and yet getting cheaper medical from a non american country is somehow a bad thing is what your implying.

just fill in the caps with personel context. its how the lingo works on 4chan

>>40257877
Yeah it failed miserably because I wasted time listening to retarded piece of old shit "doctors" instead of getting this pilocarpine niggerchloride garbage from the get go

>>40257883
luckily you got most of it fixed by fixing the blockage and hopefuly no infection starts after the fact.

>>40257890
It is partially the tren speaking but not really when I say this. When I think back to my old piece of shit grandfather saying "u look better, WITH the glands" i fucking jesus christ. Like why are you still fucking alive piece of SHIT

>>40257916
your grandfather has better humor than you, feel pround desu

>>40257916
hows your diet ? are you bulking, cutting or recomping ?

>>40257964
bulking, no point in cutting or recomping anymore after i just ran that fucking dnp.

i want my sdrol so bad. this source is a retard and always tells you he shipped you out, then a few days later messages you "hur sorry man i forgot to ship you!!!" . so it's coming monday instead of me having it already. I wanted to gauge my tolerance to the lethargy over the weekend instead of when I have labs and all that bullshit, so fuck me.

also hoodie + muscle + swollen glands in face = look obeast

does anyone know what athletes cycle? I'm an amateur athlete at my college who just realized everyone in the big leagues is on gear. what do I hop on for functional strength? don't really care about how I look

>>40257999
You don't have muscle you're just fat

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>>40255978
Sorry I fell asleep, the proviron is underwhelming even at 250mg but the MDHT is really nice for hardening and feels like my dick is a little bit girthier.

>>40255713
I've done var but never really noticed anything and I'm skurred of deca dick.

>>40258367
Test and EQ

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>>40258475
Don't forget the adderall and the African American history courses. Absolute musts for any student athlete.

>>40258367
Anavar is the big one because of the small detection window

>possibly threw your noobgains out the window to look lean.

R u kidding me? The less muscle on your body the easier it is to gain muscle, because the muscle reacts to stimuli faster

This is why lotus and NatT are gonna make tiny gains in the next year and god willing I can blow up if shit goes right, first two years of bulking you are supposed to make good gains ,

Ie Noob gains. There still no muscle on my body. There are like, brick level muscle on my frame, just nothing.

How my noob gains 'thrown away'? My body will be like 'nah, this guy has been going to the gym for months, we better not grow, he isn't a noob anymore'

>>40258705
Last paragraph is wrong or misworded

>>40258858

Look,

Noob gains refers to how when there is very little muscle on your body, your muscles just grow very quickly, and reacts to stimuli so well.

The more muscle you have on your body, the harder it is to grow.

How could I possibly throw away my noob gains? Only way to do that is to somehow if I magically woke up and I was 190lb natty BB competition ready 8% bodyfat, then my noob gains would be thrown away because there was so much muscle on my body.

But last time I stepped on the scale, this was *not the case* , and yeah, I'm looking in the mirror, and strange enough, I do not see a comp ready bodybuilder staring back at me

Like you're in a steroid general, how do u think these guys even ended up injecting bathtub chemicals in their ass? they bodybuild for 3-4 years, max out noob gains, and get sick of gaining 1.5lbs a year of lean mass

everything I am saying is super common knowledge dude

>>40258916
>My body will be like 'nah, this guy has been going to the gym for months, we better not grow, he isn't a noob anymore'

Unless this is sarcasm you contradicted the entire point of your post with this sentence

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>>40258976
>Unless this is sarcasm

>>40258978
Dont meme frog me fag sarcasm doesn't translate over text

>>40259016

I'm getting super sick of the mentality on this board it is so bad.

That said, I got over it. Like MasT was posting saying how it made him sick, and they disgust him, I just think it's funny at this point.

>w-what do girls like

For sure not guys that obsess over what girls like and make threads shitting up the fitness board about it, that's for sure.

>w-what is natty limit

It's how big you personally can get natty with as much effort as you can so if you're so curious to find out why not put in effort and see?

Like this stuff is so simple and they obsess over it, what the fuck are you doing.

Everyone mad at me shitposting here 24/7 but Like where do you want me to shitpost? Rest of the board is cancer, bodybuilding.org is like full cancer "you can't lose your virginity unless you roid fucking roiders are cheating us by sleeping with all the girls so they don't want nattys so I will roid up"

Like I don't know if it's sarcasm except I click the guys profile and there is like 100 pages of rants like that , lmfao

Don't get me started on fitmisc

thoughts on a higher dose test only cycle? Ive run 500mg pw before and had minimal sides, so im thinking about running a higher dose this time. Maybe 800mg? Or should I just stick with 500?

>>40259245
If you've only done one cycle there's not really a reason to up it if you made decent gains, just up it once you feel that you need to in order to continue progressing. Keeping it simple and at a lower dosage (as low as possible with maximal benefit that is) is usually always better in the long run.

>>40259245
Crazy pumps. Lots of water retention even with estro under control.

>>40257799
How long you been on gear, and lifting??

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>>40257799
will trade calves for traps and biceps

>>40257799

core is lagging really hard, and it's not because you are 15% bodyfat

this is moosey mode, train your core

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you faggots seen these white genetics, it's insane bbc like.

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he crazy, he crazy

i bet he lifts for girls KEK

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check out this manlet dyel pose

>>40259451
nice arms and bi's holy shit this guy is huge but his beard fucks it alll up, what a fagg0ot
>>40259639
not close to the mirror error of le faggot fag.

>>40259451
>>40259412
who dis

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>>40259767
He gotta trim that beard, would look better indeed

>>40259799
Seth Feroce

Well I broke up with my girl yesterday, so I'm ordering everything for my first cycle. The basic 500mg test-e cycle.

Everyone says to keep first cycle to just test but if I'm halfway through or so and my bloods turn out ok finishing the cycle with some lgd I have laying around would be fine right? I've ran it solo at 5mg/day with no sides before

Also, anyone here have acne already before blasting? I'm 28 and still get a decent amount of pimples. I'm hoping just controlling e and using differin on top of my normal face washing regiment

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>>40259919
buy a loofa (spelling?) and Nizoral shampoo. Use a small amount in addition to your normal soap/bodywash. It's a meme that actually does work for acne.

Also, the LGD is basically worthless, but if you have it already it won't hurt to add it. Just keep your AAS to test only, imo.

Another couple of tips for acne, once you figure out how much AI you need (if any) dose it every day. Don't do 6.5mg E3D or something, do 1.2mg/day. Consistency helps a lot with it, in my experience. And sticking with that theme I've found a large reduction in my acne from doing a M/W/F pinning schedule rather than M/Th even with long esters. More stability, less sides.

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>>40259919
What has breaking up with you gf to do with doing your first cycle? what a fucking r9k faggot you are

JUST GET MUSCLE MAN, EVERYTHING WILL BE BETTER THEN. LMAO

>>40258705
>>40254491
Do not let random anons in CBT and your otherwise useful weaponized autism goad and taunt you into an eating disorder (well, more so than already). You have done surprisingly good with your suicide cut, now eat at a sane surplus and get swole. Less autism for us to skim over and be annoyed by, more schweet mussels for you. Win-win.

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>>40259206
>bodybuilding.org is like full cancer "you can't lose your virginity unless you roid fucking roiders are cheating us by sleeping with all the girls so they don't want nattys so I will roid up"
kek I wish you were memeing, but kinda spot on tbqh

Anyone knows a good EU cabergoline source ?

>>40260068
b&

>>40260013
bodybuilding.org

has the worst forums and i wish they had a pruneing policy to get rid of there old forums because it makes it a pain in the ass to find new material on substances and supplements.

common question is "is this natty"

>>40259989

I said I would do it, so I will just do it.

He is not anon in CBT, anon in CBT don't flame me. He is a nothing in cbt, too dyel to post his body. That is what he is in CBT.

People mad as fuck , because I starved myself for 5 months on a brosplit eating chicken and rice and they can't understand how I end up with more lean mass on my body than they have after 2 years of starting strength + McDonald's nutrition.

It fuck with their brain, make me lol.

You think they would examine their thinking, that 'once I deadlift x number of plates I will be huge' and ' I can make fantastic gains on McDonald's' and 'bulking at 1 million percent body fat is good'

But nah, because if this guy >>40259971

Says 'eat chicken and rice' and they still don't listen, how they can be saved lol.

To;dr: I will get shredded beyond belief, and gain more lean mass doing it than they do on a surplus, fuck the police.

>>40259412

>g-Genetics

Yeah, I bet he for sure didn't try as hard as he could, do every set with the vision of how big he wanted to be in his head.

He just did whatever and ate whatever and his """genetics""" did the rest, right MasT? That's how you 'look at a dumbbell' at get huge, because of your "ancient god genetics".

YOU TROLL MORE THAN AnYONe you juicy bastard lmfao

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>>40260125

Like, i browse plg sometimes, and I see stuff like "strength = size" "you won't get big without getting strong" "powerlifting makes you aesthetic" " I make good gains on mcdoanlds"

They seriously, they seriously, believe this garbage, they even will argue it.

And yet after 5 months of *not* powerlifting I am physically larger than half of their trips after years while having dickskin vs 50% bodyfat

I am even bigger than our resident McDonald's + powerlifting 50% bodyfat "powerlifting makes you big" fatty, after roiding for this, as a natty, starving myself.

They mad as fuck, I come back in 10 years roided up, they be more mad.

>>40260452
>>40260125

Hey alex are you OK man?

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I just moved to the USA from a first world country. It's weird here.

If federal agent busts USA lab, do they track all customers who bought from this lab and send them to jail?

>>40259304
You look like a human carpet.

>>40260452
>>40260125
Strength does equal size though, given that you're eating enough. Stop jerking yourself off.

>>40260485
No it doesn't.

Look at any non-heavyweight powerlifter. Those guys are significantly stronger than bodybuilders twice their size.

>>40260489
"Given that you're eating enough" Aka not restricting growth in order to stay at the top of your weight class in any given sport.

>>40260482
>inb4 that one anon who always posts the hairy nipples interview scene shows up

yeah I know but it looks 100x worse shaved so eh, I'll roll with the fur coat

>Have 3 vials test e
>Have 2 vials of tren e
>Both "super high concentration" from a good lab, other purchasers have posted their bloodwork
>Have a baggie of 1mg arimidex tabs
>Have pharma nolva and clomid
>Have ralox for whole cycle
>Have Ostarine for tendons and ligaments while on (used before, had good results for muh joints)

Cant bring myself to pin. Its all been sitting in a box in my room for 9 months.

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>>40260520
>>40260520
>TFW i went from hairy nipples and hairy chin since middle school, then went to full body hair thats only getting thicker by the day 4 years after puberty suppository stops.i would think genetics would be quicker than that since i was 5/11 at 5th grade.

but fuck it im born to be hairy or its my supplements causing it. idk

>>40260485

Yeah ok that's why I deadlift 2pl8 and am bigger than brick 6pl8 deadlift ON CYCLE LOL

>>40260500

He eats 10,000 calorie of McDonald's a day, I haven't eaten food today yet

Your whole argument that buerlogical strength gains is directly correlated to lean mass is so beyond retarded, just fuck off out of fraud

I am the line, you somehow more retarded than I am, then you leave. I am stupidest allowed here, you need to go back to plg dude sorry

>>40260459

I am good. I am excited, I didn't think I would be this big after 5 months, just am starting to realize now I am bigger than a lot of plg, CBT, even some anons here posting pics of their SARMS "progress" and "starting strength + perma blast + McDonald's" 'progress"

Up is the only direction and I have my delusions still about how far I can go

Always cling to your delusions

>>40260549
ymmv but at least in my experience I've found women generally tend to favor it over being shaved all over, at least since I trim my chest.

>>40260563
im practily bear mode without the proper amount of muscle becuase of my shity shifts . FML i cant win fully in my life and neither will everybody else by the looks of it.

>>40260485
Other way around. Increased muscle csa is in almost all cases correlated with increased strength. Increased strength isn't always correlated with increased lbm.

>>40260452
Strength athletes can be aesthetic though. Just not always lean, since water retention and fat from extra mass does allow you to train harder and longer and carry more lbm.

That said powerlifting is a shit""""sport"""" and full of retarded broscience, I'll definitely give you that. Strength training is fun though and there's no reason to not include it.

https://youtu.be/yAHaOZFNtdY

Like check this motherfucker out. At this point he trains entirely for fun and is big and strong as fuck.

>>40260467
>to the USA from a first world country
heh

>track all customers and send them to jail
No, not normally. They pretty much only go after distributors. Besides, that's what we use encryption for.

>>40260598

Last post from me I am trying to minimize amount of fraud posters that hate me atm

>strength training very bad for gaining lean mass

>very hard to gain lean mass natty, you better do everything right or you be dyel forever

>all strength athletes with any size are roiding even on roids most are dyel (brick, PLG)

>leaves you with disgusting proportions and no v taper

There is nothing wrong with powerlifting as a sport, but powerlifters on fit try to convince people it will give them lean mass, and that it will give them aesthetic bodies

This is a joke, and when powerfatties say this shit they deserve all the ridicule in the world

***last post go back to talking about strroids***

>>40260632
im spit balling here so correct me if im wrong anons pls do so

but strength is an emphasis of frequency and intensity over volume

and size is

volume and intensity over volume

and athletes is frequency and volume over intensity

>>40260667
volume and insesity over freqeuncy*

fuck been a while sicne i had to correct myself.

>strong trip comes in (almost never happens anymore)
>people just meme at him about "lolfeds" and steroids
ffs go outside and compete before you give people grief about these things

>>40260667
>>40260679

I'd venture to say that's really correct on the whole, as an average. But the problem with generalizing it in such a way is that some people respond better to one stimuli than another.

For example, I respond best to frequency, whereas someone else may see more growth from adding more volume rather than an extra day of working the muscle group.

Everyone's different in that regard.

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>>40260467
Use TOR then use bitcoin to order from verified distributor on reddit source talk forum who doesn't have a commercial website. There will be no proof that you ordered the steroids, no paper trail. Just say you order legal supplements and that it was a mistaken delivery. The trickiest part is to effectively hide the contraband in your house so that a search will not yield evidence. However, you have a higher chance of being struck by lightning than ever getting to the point of cops searching your house, as long as you order low amounts.

As a new U.S.A. citizen you need to learn your rights. Cops in U.S.A. have a game "good cop/bad cop." At first, they use good cop. They say "Look man I know how it is. I understand you're not a bad person. Just tell me where you got this from so we can catch the bad guys. That's all we want. I promise we're not going to send you to jail or anything like that." All of it is a lie they are just waiting for you to admit guilt so they can send you to jail. If good cop doesn't work they will go to bad cop: "Alright, you are in a lot of trouble already. You can go to jail for a long long time. I am not playing around here. If you don't tell me everything you know then we will have no mercy on you in court. You will get the maximum sentence." It's all a lie, they don't have any evidence on you. They are just trying to make you panic and admit something stupid. They will probably even put hand cuffs on you. Just pretend you are a 47 year old white mom who has no idea wtf is going on, say stuff like "I'm sorry but I am so confused! I don't want to talk without a lawyer! This has never happened to me before! I don't know what's going on!" they will usually just take the cuffs off you and let you go.

Also don't know where you came from but you probably can't fuck 16 year olds anymore. Unless you live in a cool state like Michigan where you can fuck 16 year olds legally (I live here and I do it on a regualr basis)

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i don't get how would steroids benefit you in the future? it's literally "rent muscle" thing, you're going to lose it all, stop being beta fit

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>>40260632
>Strength training bad for gaining lbm
No it isn't. Any decent strength routine has more volume directly for hypertrophy. More muscle means bigger lifts.

>Muh natty card. I can't into lbm
Lol ok.

>Strength athletes have to roid in order to get big
Uhh, no. Pic related is pre hormones.

>Proportions and muh v taper
Almost entirely bone structure and selection. Bigger waists and thicker blocky cores are more stable and tend to be stronger. Strength training isn't going to somehow make your hips wider though. If you genetically have a narrow waist and broad shoulders, then you have a v taper no matter how much your obliques grow. Here's a vid of the same guy
https://youtu.be/N0bi7Dr8LAY

Dude has a crazy taper from his giant ass lats.

Check out pic related too. Guy is crazy aesthetic and doesn't even train for it.

>Nothing wrong with powerlifting as a sport
I disagree. Pl is shit.

>>40260698
ill agree with that its personnel basis and should be judged upon the goals and limits of the person in question.

like i said many times before muh athletics is my goal so my results and struggles will reflect my goal orientations,

since i have a good mental toughness and am willing to improve upon frequency and volume i will endure it better than most. but biology is a tricky beast maybe im a strong fellow but i might chase after something im not genetic disposed to(in denial) and thus my results are shit. who knows except my what my results would tell me?

>>40260697

>trip comes in
>look like a sack of shit stuffed into clothes
>can't take off his shirt in front of a camera
>gives advice on how Natties can get aesthetic
>gets BTFO by a natty kid with autism in 5 months

Yeah I wonder why he doesn't deserve no respect

>>40260746

>pic related pre hormones

Alright retarded I will post my pics in 10 years on pharma hgh and metyltren and shit "natty" since you just believe everything you hear

Fuck off back to plg now tnks

>>40260753
>since i have a good mental toughness
gotta get dat mental toughness son freal

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>>40260746
I fucked ip. This is pre hormones

>>40260776
yar 100, 8 count burrpees a day nom saying, then follow up with a 6 mile run and finish off with 50 reps of dealifts at 225lbs nom saying. then finish off with a freezing cold shower.

>>40260773
Plg is cancer but also

>>40260779

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>>40260773
>>40260779
Here's another guy from before hormones

>>40260790
MENTAL TOUGHNESS

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>>40260816
your as bad as the Sigmarsson brick dick sucker poster who posts the same pictures every god dam thread(same with brick)

please fix the sizing from thumbnail to legible FFS

>>40260834
gotcha senpai one from my own pastas.

>>40260779
>>40260816
What a surprise they're all 5'5".

>>40260532

Send it all to me

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>>40260846
>lanklets still think they have a chance

KEK, how's the weather up there, biig boii?

>>40260816
>trained in the olympics
>had access to testosterone and using it
>yet Marvin was natty
He started natty i his young years, and was very strong. But guy was on tesosterone. Deal with it.
And if you think you will get like this without hormones, well enjoy the long endless ride.

>>40260858
as the king of manlets pls stop trying to overthrow our overlords

>>40260901
>king of manlets
5'10"? fuck, I'm only prince of manlets tier

>>40260914
5'11 im absolutely the king my young prince.

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>>40260843
Same guy. Deal w/ it

>>40260846
When will they learn

>>40260868
He vehemently denies it and wasn't really around when drugs were ubiquitous. Plus while he's genetic outlier big, he's not that unbelievable. I give him benefit of the doubt.

Either way though I'm not natty so who cares.

>>40260949
holy fucking reeeeee i might just have to deal with it you fucking faggot.

are you building strength and size well ? hows the diet ?

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>>40260843
And btw I think brick is a fucking moron idk why you're rambling about me suckin his fick. Just clearing the air

>>40260949
Lee Priest also claims he only ran 500 mg for the olympia.
I lie everyday about my steroids, you think that would change if I got a ton of fame for it? Cmon man

>>40260980
i probaly have you confused with someone else either way i hate seeing people post the same fucking reaction images in the same fucking thread daily.( rembebers all the CERN posting) fuck im no different never mind im insane parroting as usual not hating on you or brick just the same images posted constantly get stale as shit.

>>40260966
I done pulled my back out so I've been doing shiity hypertrophy work the last few weeks so my stremph is zero.

Still a skinny twink. Right now I'm cutting from 15-18% to well defined abs. Apparently bulks are more effective when you're leaner so I wanna see if that's true.

>>40260980
how do i become kk

>>40261008
> Apparently bulks are more effective when you're leaner

correction steroids are more effective because of nutrient partitioning and other reasons due to the fact that theres less fat to convert Test E into estrogen ie look up Aromatase enzymes

but then again testostrone levels are higher when your BF is lower than 20%( citation needed going off of memory) so it would probably have the same affect so long as you workout more as you bulk. not increaseing anything in your workouts would be a waste of a bulk by all means if your on roids and bulk you should always be working out more not less or the same.

>>40261008

>basic bodybuilding advice
>everyone say the same thing
>wanna see if it's true

I fucking wonder hmmm

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>>40260986
Yeah but he shittalks the roiders so it's like, if he's fake natty why would he go out of his way to talk shit. You'd think he'd just keep it as "muh hard work and determination".

Like I said though, doesn't matter too much. There are earlier bodybuilders just as big. Genetic outlies gonna do crazy shit.

>>40260997
What like this one? It's the only picture of Kaz's fucking insane back thickness though, plus muh inspiration. If i had more I'd post those instead.

>>40261054
Go watch some Lee Priest videos.

>>40261054
yeah that image. i love strongman no lie but fuck me for hating the smallest of shit. good luck on getting that back.

also post boii pussy twink

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I am not sure how i feel about the stigma of taking steroids

One one side it keeps the nattys down, they will never look like me and i have a one in a 1000 body

On the other hand its just really stupid because practically everyone who gets paid for their body, athletes, actors and models, people who others are inspired to be, are juicing

Also i know orals are terrible for your liver and compounds like deca (and most likely tren) are terrible for your heart but just test at 250mg a week is neuroprotective, wont fuck up your bloods and probably good for you.

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>>40261050
>Taking everything bodybuilders say as gospel
Lol ok. I'mma use muh body as a science experiment for myself. We'll see how things go.

Plus I can take cb pics and possibly not look like a lazy fat shit. Woo cutting.

>>40261023
Pray to slavic gods of strenth

>>40261038
More to it than that. Adipose tissue can downregulate itself and become slightly more insulin resistant, while muscle tissue increases insulin sensitivity. Body is complicated.

>>40261075
But why

>>40261081
your a faggot go kill yourself
aka generic reply to google tier questions.

>>40261102
>More to it than that.
goddammit forgot about that as being a factor.

Is this an acceptable first cycle? And what schedule is good for pinning?

>sust300 2xw 10 weeks
>npp 100 3xw 7 weeks
>hcg 250iu 2xw 10 weeks

>>40261180
fuck off retard

HOLY FUCKING CHRIST

>Stop by /plg/ to ask them what would be considered an impressive squat for someone my height and age, post stats and pic
>Everyone freaks the fuck out, they tell me I'm weak as Fuck
>One guy says he is natty and looks better than me but calls me a faggot when I ask for pics
>They tell me a number for squat that is 10kg under the junior record for my weight class

What the fuck is wrong with these people

>>40261180
>10 week cycle
>NPP your first cycle
>sust ever
Nope, fucking shit cycle mate. Do 12-16 weeks of test e or test c. What's your AI and PCT?

>>40261195
No

>>40261279
Aridex, nolva and Clomid for pct

Npp is for my joints. That's why the dose is low. I know everyone seems to hate Sust but I can figure out why

>>40261291
Can'

>>40261291

You don't need that HCG but that's not a bad blast

You'll blow the fuck up if you're not a fag

>>40261300

I would honestly tho just get deca and do one pin a week

2ml Test + 1ml Deca

Buy 2 vials of Deca and 4 vials of Test, pin for 20 weeks

>>40261302
>sust 2x a week
>npp 3x a week
>not a bad blast
it's time to stop

>>40261279
Also when I say 300 2x a week, I'm meaning 600 a week, not splitting the 300 up

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>>40259304
>Parquet floor
Noooooooooooo. What year is it?

>>40260532
There are fat diabetic children with bigger balls than you. If you've made up your mind just fucking do it.

>>40261267
They project their insecurities from their 2pl8 squats. I doubt any of them look better than you but they'll just sperg out and start railing on you for roids even though all of their saviors use them too.

Don't you have the same problem with libido where no compound makes you uncontrollably horny like most guys say they get on gear?

>>40261291
Sust is the worst of short and long esters combined. You have to pin every day for stable blood levels and it takes forever to clear your system. Just stick to one ester. Also NPP dosent actually heal your joints, it just reduces inflammation, which is part of the healing process. So you'll feel better but actually be getting worse.

>>40261327

You obviously haven't spoken to the majority of gymrat roiders

>I'M ON OSTARINE
>MY BUDDY GAVE ME 1 VIAL OF TREN SO THAT'S MY CYCLE RN. I PIN 1CC TWICE A WEEK (Acetate)
>DBOL ONLY
>HEY DUDE DO YOU KNOW WHERE I CAN GET HGH (is not taking anabolics)

Shit, most dudes just run whatever their retard friend gives them and dont know what an Ester is

>>40261267
plg a shit

>>40261343

Yeh it's super weird

Test + Tren + Mast + Proviron + Caber did not make me horny.

I've got 5,000iu of HCG I'm gonna try. 250iu twice a week probably

>>40261267
Fairly impressive squat for 100kg+ is 2.5x bodyweight.

Under 100kg 3-4x bw (allometric scaling).

Most people who train athletics really only care about 2x bodyweight squat as a strength marker. Many coaches recommend getting there and then working on other strength qualities over maximum effort. So if you're already 2x bw you can coast and do things like depth jumps, all.sorts of box jumps work in general, loads of volume to bring up insane work capacity (squats are goat for this, Widowmaker sets are insane), and play around with weights that allow explosive bar speed.

>Plg
The autism there has been getting worse and worse. People bitch about fraud but they have no clue.

>>40261380
>People bitch about fraud but they have no clue.

Most of them are just crying because they can't ever be like their big "natty" heroes without juice.

>get al horny and shit with my gf
>we get it on
>start to lick her pussy like fucking a crazy whirlwind washing machine
>''wtf tastes you pussy so different"'
>''i dunno wtf you talking about''
>.. i think about what it could be?
>only thing i can think about is some fucking fungus/infected pussy
>nasty no way, fucking bitch
>fucking everything ruined
>suddenly realize i didn't take the minoxidil off my face for beard gains

So I am dead now? i get a good amount of it in my mouth

>>40261426
The taste changes depending on where they are in their cycle.

>>40261426
>her pussy is now going to be hairy on the inside

you fucked up breh

>>40261380

I'm at ~470lb max so 500lb then at ~200-205 bodyweight?

Thanks duder this is all I wanted <3

>>40261426
LOL

>>40261426
>Getting minox in your gf vagina
Im gonna laugh when the inside of her pussy gets hairy

>>40261343
>what year is it

this apartment is literally like 1950's

but my unit was renovated with an all new kitchen, carpet, toilet/tub/sink, etc. it's just the floors/doors and baseboard that look ancient as fuck. Sooper fukken cheap though, in a great part of town too

>>40261444
elaborate

>>40261454
I FUCKED UP

i can't think off sticking my dick in a sinkhole full of seaweed

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>>40261426

Is this mastest new trip?

Dude look I am babby THICCBOI

>>40261489
>i can't think off sticking my dick in a sinkhole full of seaweed

Think of all the extra stimulation though.

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>>40261267

/plg/ is the worst place on the site, and a source of the cancer that spreads to the rest of the board and fucks it up

just like a tumor that spreads to the rest of the body, /plg/ posters spread to the CBT, and spam at people that they are weak, etc, about their "estats" and "if you lifted that mch you would be bigger" "if you lifted that much you would be smaller"

/plg/ is totally 100% convinced that as soon as they can lift some autistic number off the floor, they will have a physique equal to another person that lifts the same number of pl8s. Not kidding.

The worst part is they advocate for people that just want a good physique, a brad pitt tylder durden dyel twink body, to do starting strength, because once they 1 rep max X number of pl8s, bam, they have X physique.

PS: THis is what /plg/ looks like, their trips, I caught this guy giving advice in a 'how do I get a nice beach body thread' and saved his photo.

This is a trip powerlifting for years and years.

>>40261421

>Most of them are just crying because they can't ever be like their big "natty" heroes without juice.

CLING TO THE DELUSION, NEVER LET IT GO.

>>40261426

lol

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>>40261502

Oh, obviously plg doesn't look like that lmfao

>>40261502

Mast looks so good.

Tfw A V E R A G E genetics

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>Tried tren A for the first time
>200mg first pin
>24 hours later bench new PR, Squat new PR, spend twice as long in the gym and feel ready to smash buildings
>48 hours later can't sleep
>72 hours later dropped to 100mg EOD
>Sleeping patterns get worse, lifts get better

Why, Oh ye cruel world?

Kicking this in early, I need sleep too badly.

>>40261502
Honestly, if you are at a certain level of all round strength you'll have a pretty good physique.

It's probably the best way to get big natty.

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>>40261494
Hey chem baby, how you doing? How was jail? you get some of that bbc?

Looking thick man, mirin getting solid size back i see.

THE ONE AND ONLY, nobody can copy the mast

>>40261496
True, this guy is optimistic we need more of these people

>>40261455
Yeah no one, besides some fuckheads who think if you're not top 1% you're shit, will mess with you for a squat over 2.5x bw, at least if you're not twink sized.

That said why put limits on yourself. Can you do 500? Then you can do 525. Can you do 525? Then of course you can hit 550, etc.

Also do your jumps. I just found out how fun box jumps are in the past few weeks. I'm not built for cleans at fucking all and thought I wasn't explosive. Nope I just suck at cleans while I'm hopping up on 5ft boxes. It's so sick. Qts mire too when you fucking fly up

>>40261516

HAHAHAHA

What's up with the study that came out that said it's sets taken to failure and not so much rep range or volume that matters

Why powerlifters tiny af

>>40261502
I can honestly say i think its cool being able to lift massive pl8s and being strong is part of being fit IMO but id rather be masT levels of fit and only be able to bench 1pl8 than look like shit but able to bench 3pl8

Looks are key, you dont post estats on tinder hoping for a reply

>>40261530

Stop, stop, stop, stop.

Go back to plg and stay in plg.
>>40261521

mast has nice insertions. I have nice insertions.

Insertions mean fucking nothing, not one single thing, you should never be proud of something you did not EARN.

Look at your physique, your size. How can you not be proud of it? mirrin.

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>>40261516
FUCKING PIZZA EATING HAMBURGERS

>powerlifters
muhhh i can't bodybuild because no pizza and hamburgers. no dedication, no willpower, pizza genetics

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>>40261537

chem here is me after 5 months natty from sedentary on a brosplit doing shit to failure

somehow I am bigger than most of /plg/ at 12% ish bodyfat than they are at 90%.

>>40261545

so train for your goal? My goal is to NATTY get to MasT NATTY photo and then I can talk to mast on a "mediocre level"

TRAIN FOR YOUR GOAL

>>40261489
The closer a girl is to her period the stronger the taste will be. It kinda waxes and wanes throughout their cycle.

>>40261531

Jail was shit

Not my first time tho

I was just nice to people, took a Spanish class 5 days a week for months

I already knew Spanish but now I can have full fluent conversations so that's cool

Trying to bulk my way to 215lbs

>>40261536

When I was in jail I put my 180lb cellmate on my back and would squat him for 2 sets of 25 every other day

I also did lots of jumps in there

I eventually got my vertical up enough to grab the rim of a basketball hoop

>MFW 5'6, run and jump up, grab rim of basketball hoop and hang
>MFW everyone mirin

>>40261567
>My goal is to NATTY get to MasT NATTY
May i ask why youre in /fraud/ then?

>>40261567
fuck off alex

>>40261618

u merlin

>>40261599

i will pin once i get there

or sooner if i am simply not capable of doing it

>>40261549

I see dudes on instagram that blow my physique out of the water

BUT

I'm only 19

I'm hoping by 21 to have a top level physique and a 1,600 total

>>40261558

MFW I am fat rn doing GOMAD and eating a pound of beef a day

Kek

>>40261567

Solid
>cousin, 15

Eat like a mother fucker for a year and hit all your body parts twice a week

Then start taking shit loads of Test

>>40261636
>i will pin once i get there
Ah, i see
Im here because i feel like ive gotten close to my natty limit and want to try roids because it could help me get to where i want to be but im having doubts

somehow i still think deep down i have hope that getting buff will improve my dating life but deny it to myself so i want to clear out all the shit and find out what i want

>>40261658

Testosterone was best decision I ever made

I will never be natty again

>Go into work yesterday
>Turn on PC, message from coworker
>"I had a sex dream about you last night."
>"Well if that isn't the best wake up message I've ever read. Was I good?"
>"Ya lol. You, me and my boyfriend were all trapped in this place and after being there a while you were like 'Well were not getting out of here, screw it let's fuck.'
>"My BF wanted in on it too but you went first. Eventually he couldn't take it anymore and I was sucking his dick while you fucked me from behind."

Cucking niggas in bitches dreams

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>>40261658

u aware that this is the body women crave? that they desire?

You're probally already too big for women's ideal, so don't fucking roid up to make yourself less attractive to them, that shit is so stupid

if you want to improve your dating life LEARN TO TALK TO WOMEN LAMO

>once I hit 300 lbs 4% bodyfat I will have a dating life

COME ON DUDE AHAHAH

>>40261643

I feel fat and I feel small so I can't decide what to do, I will just lean bulk I decided, and work on the small part

>>40261558
So I worked my forearms to a burning pump yesterday with the new roller. Ain't got any first-timer DOMS today. Did you trick me mast?

>>40261729

dont listen to this fucking guy lamo roid muscles gave him confidence which translated into attention from women

100%

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>>40261812

Okay

Dumping Cuck Tales

1/3

>>40261729
>Testosterone was best decision I ever made
Well it does seem nice
I never had a real problem in dating until i started lifting to become big, im not saying this is the cause of my problem but so far lifting hasnt helped me get more dates
The opposite is more true but i dont think its because im "too big", in any fucking way

>>40261736
>LEARN TO TALK TO WOMEN LAMO
Problem is i can talk to them, ive chatted up several grills at the gym and its always come down to her having a bf
Even the girl i talked to just today has a very protective bf but she would agree to a date but "just friendly" so i dunno if i should pursue or not
she is vegan so...huge nono
Anyway point being i dont think im too big for girls as it is and i can talk to em but it never pans out so roiding is mostly because i want to look better
Id be extremly happy if it got me a better dating life but i dont want to roid to get that because i dont think it will work (like you say)

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>>40261838

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>>40261838
>current year
>not having shredded selfie as slack pic
Also up your MK677 dose.

>>40261872

I don't get Slack and Github pictures

I write fucking code this is not a dating site kek

>>40261872

Also I am scurred 20mg gib me the sleepies

No wanna sleepies need to be on top of game 4 best codes

>>40261568
she's taking the pill for years she never get her period

>>40261589
ah si si senior. SO you can now smash some pretty looking latina's with huge ass

mirin story, she wants the D

>>40261802
I tell you m8, that roller is insanely good for your forearms. That progress picture doesn't lie. Everyone should do the wrist roller, if you don't do them you're a huge faggot

NO PAIN = NO GAIN

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>>40261838

>wow a woman wants to have sex with me!

THis totally is only achieveable on steroids!

this general lamo

hey guys let's dump photos of women talking to us, therefore, proving, that you need to roid to get attention from women

>>40261837

lel

>>40261840

>ery protective bf but she would agree to a date but "just friendly" so i dunno if i should pursue or n

Fuck that shit she wants to use u for validation and beta cuck you breh

>>40261919

Jokes on u nerd i didn't lose my virginity until I started blasting

Also I had really terrible social anxiety and sperged out talking to women

WELL NOT ANYMORE

>>40261913
How much weight do you use now and how many reps do you actually manage before failure?

>>40261919
This m8,unless she straight up bangs you,you're in emptional tampon mode

>>40261941
Its odd,but i became more autistic once i started lifting/got body dysmprphia
Once my hair falls out i am frauding and leaving humanity behind

>>40261941

WELL GOOD CHEM BUDDY I AM GLAD FOR YOU!

Srs, I am glad, that steroids totally fixed your life, it is good to hear.

It is just required unless you

1. Want to be a bodybuilder

2. Have low test

It sounds like you may have TRT'd yourself, no?

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Anyone here take like 800mg of tren a week just because it allows you to be a bit more lax with your nutrition?

I don't mean eating burger and fries or sweets all day, but it just makes eating chinese or maybe bread or less ideal carbs one or 2 days a week without feeling like a shitstain who ruined his nutrition.

>>40261981

not***

Not***

Or I guess I should add

>be fat as fuck and disgusting physique but able to pull some autistic number of weight off the floor

then you need to roid yeah

added bonus since you roids + pwoerlifting no one will EVER suspect you of roiding looking at your "physique"

LOL
O
L

>>40261981

I was pretty big and strong even natty

I think maybe I placebo'd myself into it, or it's more a cause of being around women enough to finally get comfortable

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>>40261890
>>40261906
Ya I don't get it either. They make us put pics up at my job so now I get to have all these weird old ladies hit me up for stupid shit since we might have worked together on some project.
As for MK677 I take 50mg/day right before bed. Sounds like you are taking it in the morning or something.

>>40261998

>I was pretty big

I SAW THE BEFORE PIC DON'T YOU MEME ME CHEM

Jokes aside bro, your life improved, and if nor if not it was steroids, this is great news, mirrin

glad you are happy stop getting arrested bro

>>40261998

Test + Tren + Mast will defo cure autism tho

>>40261968
2,5 kg is more than enough imo. I don;t really count the reps, but i just make sure i keep my arms straight while executing the exercise properly. What is most important? When you go down, DON'T CHEAT, but let is go down really slowly. Most people wanna cheat their way down, but that way you fuck it up.

>>40262018

yo chem can u link me ur posts in plg lol? thanks

I can't be fucked to read all that shit about eating mcdonalds and lifting X number of plates JUST to find it

>>40262032

Here u go

>>40260937
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>>40262005

What do you do for work?

>>40262018
I don't agree with this. I know some guy at my gym who did tren-a and is really introvert he talked a bit more but he didn't changed in some super casanova.

What i try to say is, i am already a bit extrovert myself and i feel that test and mast is really amplifying this even more. As a youngster i was really introvert and socially awkward, but i think that experience and being big helped me more in this than steroids. I seriously missed out a lot of pussy because i was really socially awkward even while girls where hitting on me, but i was just too afraid to be myself.

There are many people over here who use tren and are still virgin

>>40261919
>Fuck that shit she wants to use u for validation and beta cuck you bre
Yeah thats what i figure
She is friendly and sort of cute but i dont think ill pursue

Either way, id love to be able to pick and choose which girls i want. Ive never had that in my life but ive managed to get laid and had girls chase me so i think my face should be good enough
Im just not sure what the secret is to getting to your level

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>>40262076
At my 9-5 I am an IT major incident manager.

>>40262129

Damn that sucks

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>>40262138
>Damn that sucks
What makes you say that?
I like it and it's pretty easy and the pay is good.

>>40262122

Honestly I just don't give a fuck, really, truly, if they fuck me or not.

Just some casual sex is totally irrelevant to me, and in my life, and I feel like that makes them want to have it with me more?

I dunno.

Other part is just confidence, if you think you are good enough for a woman, women will tend to agree.

If you think you are no good, they will SMELL it on you, and not want you.

Posters on /fit/ always tell me your nose, your hairline, you ugly, etc, you this, you that, and I bang girls that won't even look at them, would rather cross the street than be close to them,

Just don't be a bitch, talk to girls, be confident.

Anytime you talking to a woman, jsut assume that she want to fuck you lol, and if she don't want to fuck you, then she have bad taste in men.

Always lalways remember that, if a girl don't want me, I serious think to myself 'what horrible taste she has'

Because I am this deluded. But women can smell this confidence? delusion? on me, and they like it.

1. Don't be desperate

2. Assume that you are GOOD.

you have to really believe in your heart that you are GOOD dude, THEN and only then, women will like you.

If you have something you care about, some twinkle in your eyes....

I used to be fat as fuck and I got laid more than roided up fitness models here, just because they don't like themselves. srs.

>>40262169

Sounds like writing a Fuck ton of tickets and reports and dealing with people

>>40262213

>that guy that had a better physique hat you

LOL. The delusion of powerlifters is astonishing , truly.

Here is his thinking

>I am 600 lbs 5,6"
>I can quarter squat more weight

Therefore my physique is better

LOL

These people are a meme ahahaha

>>40262210
Id like to believe that but in my experience being confident backfired horribly
I was super confident with a girl, sure she wanted to fuck because she suggested we should date
Long story short, she had a boyfriend nobody knew about and was just testing me and how id react
She turned around and warned this other girl i was dating long after about dating me so i lost both those girls because of my confidence and that shit hurt

>>40262313

Just don't care about any past mistakes or cringey stuff you did, my life is like one collection of mistakes and cringe, but I dont care, I even blog post about it with tripcode here, just stop caring

if you don't care, what other people think of you, you can never be embarrassed or ashamed

key is to not care what other people think, I think this is the key to life.

Like some people, OK, but not care what random nobodies think of you, fuck them

As for as losing those girls, who cares. There is 3 billion girls lol, stop caring.

>don't cry over spilled milk
>look for a cow instead

If you crying over spilled milk you have tears in your eyes and you can't see, there could be a fucking cow sitting in fron of you, you would never know it.

>>40258373
ok that's why i keep hearing about it right

>>40262427

>normies thing I'm big so I'm big

...

When MasT says u are big u are big

>>40262371
>my life is like one collection of mistakes and cringe
Thats honestly makes me happy to hear, i dont give a shit about what other people think but i dont want to fail so i end up not trying
In my mind a fit, successful guy never fails, ive build up this romantic image about some guy who is always successful and can always get the girl even though i know thats not how it works at all IRL (some girls prefer skinny emo guys, some fit blonde guys etc, no one-type fits all)

No one wants to fail but fear of failure is equal or worse and it feels good to hear it
my mind is fucked, time to unfuck it

I still want to do a cycle of test E though, maximum gains and awesome looks? yes plz

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I want to lose ten more pounds before I start my cycle.
I already get weird BP issues so I'm not really trying to use Clen, and plus it would take 2-3 weeks to arrive.

Should I simply do HIIT 3-4 days a week, not worry about lifting too heavy, and accept a slight strength loss? Is there anything legal I could overnight that would help drop another pound or two with good diet? And anyone have a good diet to drop shit fast cause obviously I don't care if I start gaining it pack during cycle.

>>40262502

>t i dont want to fail so i end up not trying

Then u failed by default, and you failed so badly, that the guy that tried and failed is 100 times better, because he tried.

Here's my thinking: all that matters, is that you try as hard as you can, for what it is that you want. If you do that, then you can hold your head high, even if u failed

>still want to roid

Ask yourself why you want to roid, if you want want to do it for girls I recommend you don't

the guys here tell everyone to roid no matter what just roid, you alive, u roid

Think it through though, why you want to do it, do you need to do it

>>40262588
yeah im gonna try my best to reprogram myself and try more and evaluate based on that instead of assuming im gonna fail by default so to protect my ego i dont try

I dunno, i want to look good but i dont think its for girls
I want to look good for me and roids could help
Only thinking of doing one cycle too so not sure if good or bad
On one hand it wont do any damage and i can just get off if i dont like the results but on the other hand its risky IMO

You nerds think too much

>>40262630

So the main thing that stop me from roiding is bragging rights and ego.

It is not very hard to beat lazy people on steroids as a natty, you can do It dude.

You never will come close to someone that roid + effort, but you can beat a lot of roiders who roid and powerlift and eat pizza.

Sure If you roid then you can pretend you are natty but you in your heart and your head will know you are not.

What do you define as looking good? All women want really is low bf % and some muscles, they will sleep with skeletons, fat ppl, anybody , your physique is not holding you back.

You said you were at your natty limit, I am sure this is more than enough to impress girls.

Steroids should be used to impress other men, to impress other bodybuilders.

You do not need them for girls.

Your average girl weighs like 90lbs and has an FFMI of 5. How hard u think it is to impress her? Just be lean and lift weights.

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>>40262213
>Sounds like writing a Fuck ton of tickets and reports and dealing with people
I don't write tickets but I do write reports and lengthy communications about what is going on. As for people I don't mind social interaction, it's kinda become a weird game for me now.

>>40262717
>Your average girl weighs like 90lbs and has an FFMI of 5. How hard u think it is to impress her? Just be lean and lift weights.
Well today i picked up a girl over my head at the gym(she was being smug and kind of a tease so i decided to play around with her) but yeah youre right that they wont be hard to impress

Problem is i still have this idea that maybe ill do better if im more lean
Im abit bulky right now because im at the end of a bulk and gonna start cutting down some soon
Still, i cant get it through my head

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what's more economical to combat prolactin aka which will last longer on the "usual" dosage(also using 800mg vitamin b6).

10x 1mg cabaser

vs

20x .25mg prami


They cost the same.

>wife wants to know if she can cruise on deca once the baby is born

#roidlife

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>>40261729
>Testosterone was best decision I ever made
I've been cruising like 300mgs a week for too long. Feeling dumpy, still 20x more swole than anyone in everyday life.
But I'll never go off test.
Right now debating if I should EQ for recomp or dive back into Tren. Last I did tren I had some pretty bad mental sides/sleep too. And now a professional job/pretty stressful. Don't wana fuck up.
GH would be perfect but too afraid to drop money on bunk

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>>40255547

I know that feel. And I usually get people to come out of the /pol/ closet and we 'gang up' w/ friendly banter on the socialist and the one old union guy that still thinks Democrats are pro-labour.

>>40244644
>>40251366
> double dubs

Nice. My point about DHT is a simple one -- there simply is no correlation between DHT itself and hair loss. We assume DHT is a culprit because Finasteride blocks 5a-reductase and Finasteride also helps prevent hair loss. But if you look at the data, men w/ greater DHT have a full head of hair. Men who lose their hair early exhibit symptoms of a 'male homologue of PCOS' and they have reduced DHT, reduced Testosterone.

Zinc deficiency is a plausible theory and it is definitely involved but to say it is the cause is a long shot. Zinc is a very common deficiency as it competes w/ Calcium & Magnesium for uptake. 40% of Americans are Zinc deficient and likely more so 60% males/20% females as males make much greater use of it. It is the 'manly mineral'. You lose 5% everytime you ejaculate. Supple amounts are needed for high natty Testosterone.

Anecdotally, I've run over a gram of Tren, over 2 grams of Test-E, aromasin and etc... I never lost any hair during that. It wasn't until I started drinking that I lost hair on steroids and alcohol depletes Zinc. My widow's peaks came at 17, then by 22 the hair came back when I got into fitness. Then I started Creatine and lost the hair -- that's not a joke. Then I was started on Androgel as I had no Test by an endocrinologist and the hair grew back. Androgel mainly converts to DHT thanks to the high concentration of 5a-reductase in the skin. Regardless, 2 years later, I'm a balding alcoholic, and am coming to terms with the Mr. Clean look w/ a nicer butt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDzMxlw2Fgo

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Im extending my refeed for a 2nd round interview and many of my dreams are self flagellation shit for it
Smh whats the deal


>>40262746
>working in IT
Damn ive been posting with nerds

>>40263080

Black Top Meditrope

Overdosed (rumored 1.3iu), costs $110 a kit

Also Fuck EQ

Run DHB or Var