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>>40235167
You should up your mk dose. I think up to 50mg is great and anything beyond is a waste.

>>40235779
Probably diminishing returns with peptides thrown in

>>40234957

>kinda cocky

Nah, it's hard to be cocky with 14" arms.

You guys have no idea what you're in for when I'm big some day and have some right or reason to be cocky here though

In reference to that guy that said I cared too much about physique in terms of pecking order here, it's because of where we are.

If this was a coin collecting thread whoever had the most coins could talk the most shit.

You guys always seem to factor in stuff that doesn't matter, like girls or money or if or if not someone has autism or any stupid shit like that

Or same bad stuff about jerry because he is a pedo. Jerry is big, u mad?

None of that stuff matters here.

In general, feeling better or worse than people is silly, that pecking order stuff is only relevant in online communities.

I sure hope that anon doesn't go around thinking he is better or worse than anybody.

You're all just bags of meat with skin wrapped around yourself

>>40235779
She's all hamstrings no glutes. Bet you she's dutch

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>>40235859
>>money

>open book cabinet
>find random $2.5k or whatever the fuck it is
rubs hands

Im so happy chem is back c:

>>40235871
Your parents aren't gonna flip on you for taking it?

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>>40235882
yeah he isn't

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>>40235779

or you could run 6iu of overdosed generics for like $6.50/day

>>40235909
Lmfao he literally screencapped himself.

Damn dude alex must have really got you

>>40235893
my book cabinet. in my room.

and i have 0 recollection of putting it there at all. WTF.

and they have huge ass stacks everywhere i could take fuckloads without them noticing but i have no need to risk it at all, not worth it when i have more than enough of my own

>>40235937
Nice dude.

Any plans for it?

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>>40235796
Nah not from what I have seen online randomly.
>>40235860
She can dutch oven my cawk.
>>40235909
>overdosed generics
r u sho bout dat?
Nice screencap though ;)

>>40235956
no just a nice surpise. i only found it because i was going to hide another $2k in case someone like robs the house, it would be retarded to have it just sitting on my desk like it was.

have all the gear and shit i need for a long ass time. don't feel like delving into the realm of hgh bullshit yet, seems like a huge pain in the ass plus I don't like the supposed side effects at all.

especially since i once had carpal tunnel so bad i could barely use my hands at all for 2 months.

>>40235966
Ok she has some serious manface going on there.

Cap I'm starting to wonder about you

>>40235981
>starting
cap has been posting men disguising as women forever now

>>40235972
$4k sounds like a badass vacation to me. Spent a month in Europe for half of that.

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>>40235981
>Ok she has some serious manface going on there.
>Cap I'm starting to wonder about you
JUST GOTTA KEEP UPIN THE DOSE UNTIL THE GAY GOES AWAY. CMON!!

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>>40235925

half easier to just cap it for drive-by bitchslapping

half I want to remember specific turns of phrase because it starts sticking in peoples' heads the more you keep using it, sort of takes on a life of its own when it goes from one or two people calling you a gorked out rat-faced future rapist to everyone that wants to take a shot at him

>>40235966

black tops have had a mean rep for a while now, sourced from the same guy that supplies afaik every single downstream vendor out there

>>40235901
He posted CB in last thread mong

>>40236002
yeah. he shows up for a thread once every month or two then fucks off back to fitmisc. this is nothing new.

>>40236022
>fitmisc
lol

why would anyone ever go there unless they are a 15 year old kid thinking they are gonna look like zyzz by using creatine

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>>40235996
Alright I will hit you up on email.

>>40235909
>pin 3-5x a day
>5x the cost

>>40236029

isn't most of fit misc on all sorts of shit

either that or they are roleplaying with other peoples avatars because the avatars of posters there are desu bigger than zyzz or jeff are

>>40235996

ah yes, I am so bitch slapped, the more times you post the screencap of your own post, the more bitch slapped I will be, yep, yep.

>>40236050

$6 a day? This is what u guys mean when you say HGH is expensive? lol.

Surely you spend more on food as a result of being a bodybuilder (or at mcdonalds as a result of you being a powerlifter)

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Will test alone be enough to get a huge bolo yeung tier chest (to fill out loose skin/tits) or will I need to get a little more advanced.

>>40236059
idk i saw a few like that but most looked like shit

>>40236086
Actually my food is free atm. I didnt factor in the cost of pins either. They cost a lot more where I am since they have to be domestically sourced.

Comparatively speaking it costs a lot for gear for even that cheap shit.

Even 3x a time might be a bit low on the frequency scale for HGH and you need to dose it right.

>>40236114
is it time for a rerun already?

>>40236125
wat

>>40236114

Hey bby doll

Thought you might like this one

>>40231971


This guy is natty

This guy must be fucking HUGE and he's natty? Why haven't we seen him on the stage?

50" chest? MIRRIN. Now those are some ancient god genetics, for sure.

Reeves (dyel bitch) needed to roid up for a 54" , and this guy does a 50" natty? wow.

I am impressed.

I am sure that is at content prep'd shredded 6% bodyfat too, which he also got natty

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>>40236179
I got a natty 51" chest.

U mrin?

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>>40236050
>pin 3-5x a day

2-3 max and it's fucking slin pins that you have to actually watch to know it's in

>5x the cost

if you're talking about the pep/mk cost to replicate 6iu/day, yeah

>>40236086
>ah yes, I am so bitch slapped, the more times you post the screencap of your own post, the more bitch slapped I will be, yep, yep.

I get this warm little glow every time you post something like this because it's way, way too easy to imagine you physically resisting the urge to spew some insane frothing ragepost about fat powerlifters and how some day mast is going to let you suck his dick and then you'll be huge and ripped and show everyone

>>40236092
>Will test alone be enough to get a huge bolo yeung tier chest (to fill out loose skin/tits) or will I need to get a little more advanced.

if you actually knew shit about gear you'd know how dumb a question that is, "test alone" can get people who know what the fuck they're doing very, very far

>>40236118

there are a shit-ton of different dosing protocols for different goals, and two months of gym fees costs more than 6 months of syringes/pins/swabs

>>40236179
think gynecomastia combined with morbid obeastity and it makes sense

lol 5'11 xl natty. must be 25% bf at least, and trying to hide his tits

>take shower
>cool whatever
>1 min later sit down
>nauseous as fuck, dizzy, shaky, feel about to pass out

simply impossible that it's hypo i just fucking ate 1.5-2 hours ago?

although it was post workout and the carbs were mostly high gi

>>40235366
>>40235366
>>40235366
holy shit, is this pasta?

>>40236200

> "test alone" can get people who know what the fuck they're doing very, very far

Mmm, just as you have "proven" right

>>40236243

It's just funny man, the fucking people that post here.

Like I had a power lifter physique, I ate less food for a bit, and then I started taking meth, and walla, I am lean.

This seems preferable to just shitposting about how because you have 20" arms you are ripped, but hey, he can lift a lot of weight off the floor, so he must be.

There are guys that are lean 190 lbs 5,10 and natty ( I mean, they say so) in CBT and people tell them "I have been doing SS and I weigh 250 lbs 5'10, u are dyel, how much do you lift? I bet I lift more"

Like how deluded can you get

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>>40236265
>Bone, Silian Rail
what did he mean by this?

>>40236276
Wait, you really started taking meth? Or are you memeing about bronkaid?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=UZPCp8SPfOM


MAGA

>>40236306

EC stack

I am super straight edge, I used to drink once a week but I stopped when is started bodybuilding because it stops your muscles from healing or some shit

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>>40235715
500/mg weekly Testosterone Cypionate
40/mg daily Anavar
400/mcg daily Frag HGH 176
.5/mg Arimadex Every other day (will bump up if needed)

10 week cycle then PCT with Clomid and more Arimadex if needed.

Am I doing it right /fit/?????

>>40236339
no you aren't

>idiots coming up with their own cycles

>>40236328
Lmao please learn something you stupid faggot

>tfw ur mind says pee but ur body still sayin nut

>>40236345
That isn't my own cycle.
And tell me what you think the problem is.

>>40236345
Don't listen to ^ this idiot.
That's a good beginner cutting cycle.
Just make sure the gear is legit.

>>40236339
>>40236350
>>40236379
same person

>>40236383
yup

>>40236339
I'd extend the cycle if you're gonna pct

Right now it's 10 weeks blast, well 4 of those weeks it's mostly building in your system. So 6 weeks where you really can get at it. 6 weeks of good blasting next to 2 weeks of taper and 4 weeks of recovery.

I'd do 16 weeks at least. Really get some benefit out of it.

>>40236395
thank you

>>40235994
I got ~60k I'm using for my euro trip. Is gon be nice. If I have to I'm gonna be going 6 months in eu, 3 months out then repeat but in some other online forums they were saying that the whole 6 month policy isn't strictly enforced as long as you move the fuck around and keep your head down. Between youth hostels, camping out, getting under the table jobs in Spain, friends houses, and good family friends Ima be set. Selling all my shit and working n saving all my money from drug dealing n jobs for 5 years is about to pay off. :)

>>40236418

yo

>>40235366

>>40236431
I'm about to read it. I saw it above and cracked the fuck up at the first couple lines. Brb.

>>40236431
>>40236442
That has to be the best shit I've read here in months. Holy fuck I can not stop laughing. Saved that dank fuckin pasta.

>>40236461

ANd u thought ab roller was effective?

what sort of test dose would ramp up my libido? it feels like i'm wasting a lot of my time not being horny 24/7

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thought Chem was perma banned

>>40236556
Any at all more than your usual levels, but eventually you reach equilibrium and the effect isn't as strong.

You could try tren, apparently the horniness is unreal

How long does it take you guys to feel caber and prolactin lowering?

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>>40236265
one of many recently. i still like the Igor The Mongo tard wrangler one personally

>>40236418
>run insane doses of tanning peptides
>apply as refugee in Germany
>stay fucking forever
kek

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>>40236602
>apparently the horniness is unreal
mostly a meme tbqh. of course some truth to it but all those posts about pic related 24/7 with no way to stop it are roleplaying if they're not blasting absurd doses

>>40237757
>>40236602


Its not a meme for me, libido on 200-250mg test + 400-500mg (or more) tren is insane for me, so bad it distracts from gym time and everything else.

>>40237798
yeah it's anecdotal, but still. I've run 650 lately, and I sure felt it, but it's more like "dayum if I were to have sex right now I would sure fuck her/him into a fine paste", not "must find something with at least one working orifice immediately or I will die" as most put it. ah, whatever, I always had it easy holding back on my libido even on full retard blast so I might be the one accidentally shitposting, not the others kek

>>40236418

Yo NatT I just read this

It's your life and your mistakes to make.

Normally I would respect that and say nothing but I consider you a friend so I have to open my mouth

you're what, gonna blow every dollar you have saved up over years to bang redheads and quit your real estate job to what, pick beets in Spain?

This shit isn't fucking worth it dude,

I know it's too late and you are committed but I would feel bad if I just didn't say anything because it is such a terrible idea.

Financial security is one of the best feelings in life.

Anyways just stay safe bro

redpill me on HGH

>>40237910
Expensive as fuck, good for fat loss and quality of life at low doses and getting megahuge when stacked with AAS at high doses. You will likely be unable to afford either.

>>40238124
Now I'm wondering, can you run that shit permanently? And what would it cost?

>>40238148
You can run lower doses permeantly. The cost would be less than if you're trying to become a mass monster but you'd still be looking at roughly $6,000 per year at absolute minimum.

>>40238177
>$6,000
kek

I knew it was expensive, but not that bad.

>>40237853
>REEEEEEEE other people are having fun and doing cool things!
>REEEEEEEEE they're not just sitting in their moms basement taking meth and shitposting on 4chan
>REEEEEEEE other people have friends and can travel
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>40238194
That is for the lowest maintenance dose of the cheapest generics possible

Levels wise it would be like cruising at 1200ng/dl test. High end of the natty range. For 6k

>>40238148
If you just want a low dose memek677 works to raise your GH, much cheaper

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>>40238196

I worry about him he is my friend bro

He has a nice real estate job money saved up in the bank I dunno

It's his life, for him to live, I am just more cautious than him.


Unrelated note

I got cocky. I thought 'this bodybuilding shit is easy, just go to the gym and train hard, and wait years, and you will grow'

This bulk is killing me. My stomach shrank so much from months of starving mySelf. I am in so much pain. My belly feels like it will pop. Look, it's distended.

I'm going to the grocery store and buying some peanuts for dense calories any other suggestions

It hurts so bad, I'm gonna take some pepto bismo.

I need to recomp, I feel like I am dying, let my stomach stretch out

Yea, I cycled off the EC, that's not it, I am just on 500mg caffeine today.

Jesus Christ, this is painful. I know, don't bitch, just eat

But this sport is not as easy as I thought

Boutta start a 500mg Test-E pw cycle for 12 weeks

Bulking with the goal of massive chest and traps, following this retarded routine:

Day 1
Front Squat 3x10
Incline Press 3x10
Cable fly 3x12
Lateral Raise 3x12 superset Leg extention 3x12
Triceps 3x12 superset Abs

Day 2
Deadlift 10x3
Rack Pull (above the knee) 5x5
Cable Row 3x12
Cable pullovers 3x12 superset Shrug 3x12
Biceps 3x12 superset Abs

1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 ....

>>40238278
The 500mg caffeine is probably the thing doing it

>>40238278
You'll get used to it. Honestly, the same way that you get used to NOT eating. Give it a couple weeks and youll be chowing down on 4kcal per meal easy

>>40238369
Don't even do a set and rep scheme for the rack pulls.

Work up to a heavy set of 1-3 and just do a giant drop set as you deload the bar, because if you're not a pussy you're gonna get like at least 7pl8+ on there after you get used to it and that shit takes forever to take off so you might as well make use of it and do a drop set.

Also do power shrugs when the rack pull weight gets low enough. Shit destroys your traps like nothing else. Don't listen to that slow and controlled contraction meme it doesn't work for this. Just yank it up and try and slow it down on the eccentric and you'll be sore as fuck.

Deadlift and rack pulls same day 3-4 times a week is gonna blast the fuck out of your cns and back too. Be prepared. Maybe switch out deadlift for something like lunges or trap bar or high bar squats some days.

>>40238194
>not that bad
nigger that is the lowest reasonable estimation. getting yuuuge on pharma stuff will set you back three times that and more, depending on where you cop it and how dead set on making it you are.

>>40238457
I was thinking QOL improvement dosage, not leaving humanity behind amounts.

>>40238278
going straight from suicide cut to bulk will do that, also 500mg of caffeine might upset your stomach and intestines on top of the stress from the above. lay low on the caffeine, eat at maintenance +100 for two weeks, then bulk however you want.

or drink your calories and chow down lots of macadamia nuts (75g fat/100g), but both recommendations are essentially just shitposting kek

>>40238486
well still, 6k is the absolute minimum one should spend to even notice a difference, and for that you should rather invest in retarded doses of memek. not even shilling, dead serious.

It's been hurting for hours and now I have a searing pain inside my belly that gets worse and worse to the point where I can't even walk without hunching over

Such a sharp pain, I'm going to the hospital now hopefully before it bursts

>>40238278
Don't go ham on the bulk as a natty. You'll regret it

>>40238640

I think I have apendcitis desu. I'm in the hospital waiting now.

Stomach was hurting for like 3 hours, last hour got bad, last 30 mins it feels like someone is digging around in my guts wth a hot poker

Anyways yeah it's always best to bulk slow and steady to reduce the amount of time you have to spend cutting 2-4 lbs a month IK

I just want them to cut this shit out of me it hurts so bad

let's all pray that this is karma for 5 months of shitposting and alex dies

>>40238799

U might get your wish because I told them What's up and I am just sitting here chilling because some bitch with a tiny scratch on her wrist got here first

masT, not going to tell you how to live but have a story

>24 y/o, $30K in the bank and all my debts paid
>Good job in private equity, girlfriend and good life overall
>Decide to take extended trip abroad
>Visit Germany, England, Spain, France, Italy
>Make my way to Tokyo and then spent about 1 month in Thailand
>Slowly make rounds through all these countries a second time
>Banged loads of chicks
>Awesome time
>The whole time I had this melancholy feeling, like I was at an awesome party but we all knew it was going to come to an end at some point
>Eventually the money runs out after 19 months, despite taking odd jobs along the way
>Go home
>Trouble getting a new job that pays decent wage ($50K+)
>Lived with some friends and family until I got back on my feet
>Had a bunch of great stories but everyone I left behind is doing much better, bought houses, got married, had kids, got great (better) jobs or started businesses
>Been back for 2 years now and I'm not back "even" with where I was before I left in terms of financial security or social standing

If I could go back with what I know now, I would have planned to do several trips for 1 month at a time. I could have kept my previous life but still got to experience all of the same things. Plus I wouldn't have had to return to the states and start all over again

>>40238762
>inb4 ruptured stomach cause going to huge surplus from cut

>>40238841
Who cares if they have houses and kids. They'll never have experienced the shit you've experienced and they'll have a midlife crisis at 40.

>>40238928
that's true, that's why I said I would have planned more frequent but shorter trips for maybe 1 month at a time. I could have had the best of both world but at the time I was too bigheaded to think that way, I wanted to do everything my way

>>40235715
You have to go back.

>>40238841
Better regret something you did than something you didn't do.

You lived life and now you have to pay for it.

We are all wagecucks until we die, so you better get the best out of it. It makes me really depressed that this cycle of cuckery is for life.

Live in the moment, that will make you happy

>>40238841

I dunno maybe I am just a 'beta cuck' but I just wanna meet a nice girl and settle down desu this zyzz life u guys get a hard on for doesn't interest me it is empty even if I can afford

Problem is where I gonna find a nice girl everyone fucks everyone

I am stressing out here desu I hate doctors man

Also needles fucking suck dude shit there's just a visceral reaction to them sticking it in u and taking ur blood

Like they stole my life force

>>40238861

It is hurting less I think I had bad gas and just overreacted lol

I just panicked I got worried

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>>40239081
>going to the ER for a massive fart
yall niggers need jesus

>>40239081

Like i texted this girl I am seeing low key and just didn't mention so maybe this time she don't get dox'd and she don't give a shit just read my text hey babe I'm in the hospital and no reply

Very few people in this life care about you so always make sure u care about you

>>40239081
25g needles don't hurt when you do the injection. It's the PIP from certain oils which can hurt. No pain no gain. Stop being a pussy. Girls go through much worse on a regular basis with their lip injections, botox, boob jobs, nose jobs, laser hair removal etc.

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>>40239117

It must be because my forearm look so small in the pic I sent her of the IV

I don't do enough wrist roller so she don't love me

(I'm kidding)

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>>40239138
>pepto bismol IV for the massive fart he went to the ER for
keep going, I'm roaring like a retard here

>>40239148

It hurt so bad I was doubled over on the floor unable to walk and I panicked looking at webmd

Anyways MasT I'm sorry my forearms so dyel I am trying my best

My wrist roller 8 days a week come on

Finally ordering a proper belt seeing as I'm now treading the path of the fat powerlifter, going for an Inzer. Should I get 10mm or 13mm?

Bit concerned as to how quickly bulking/npp bloat will make it not fit

Also should I get some ammonia caps while I'm at it kek

>>40239164
I've suffered through awful farts before, but damn, you're taking the prize.

>>40239172
13mm all day erryday

>>40239172
>ammonia caps
"no"

instead, invest in a shot of bourbon kek kabukistrength.com/whiskeyanddeadlifts/

>>40239220
How come 13mm? Buying aus domestic because its like $200 for Inzer international shipping and the 10mm is literally two thirds the price in most aus sites I've seen

>>40239270
While the site is cringy and idiotic, the point stands. Lemme quote something I found on the matter in an older thread:

Small doses of alcohol inhibit the neuro-motor functions responsible for moderating your muscle activation in a similar way that the adrenaline produced by sniffing ammonia does. This lets you apply your strength in greater quantities than you body normally would let you. Drunk strength is real, although usually counteracted by the reduced ability to control your body in general that comes with being shitfaced. You know how when you get cramps it hurts like a motherfucker despite not being muscle failure? Thats because your muscles are generally really fucking strong in theory and could easily fuck themselves up if your brain wasn't all "whoa buddy, calm down before you hurt yourself". Sniffing ammonia/drinking more or less small amounts makes your brain react more along the lines of "lol, it's going to be hilarious when he snaps his shit up... oh... wait...FUCK too late"

>>40239292
10mm don't fit me as snugly and I've generally found the 13mm to take more abuse. Pure anecdotal evidence though, if price is a real concern just go for the 10mm I suppose, both are really schweet stuff compared to some others on the market.

Myprotein doesnt have pea protein anymore
Fuck

>>40239292
2/3 the price for 2/3 the material

>>40239317
interesting. now I know why most of the strongmen I know are already half-pissed an hour pre-comp kek

>>40239446
Nah. That mostly comes with the image hue

>>40239318
>pea protein
why tho

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Took my first cycle of LGD yesterday at 5mg (liquid form). After like 4 hours my balls started to feel pretty sensitive/sore but nothing painful. Is it possible to already be feeling sides that soon or is it pure placebo? I did my homework but I've never read about getting affects so soon after dosing.

>>40239864
99% placebo. leaving that 1% because hey you'll never know.

>>40239864
placebo for sure yeah.

or maybe you actually did something else to your balls, even 4 weeks in your balls won't (shouldn't) feel sensitive/sore

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look at this retard

https://www.reddit.com/r/PEDs/comments/4fg75q/lgd_4033_and_my_horrifying_experience_with_it/

>>40239624
I love pea protein
Mix atleast 1 scoop in all my shakes

>>40239911
KEK

what a delightful read this was, including most of the comments slamming him. thank you anon

>>40239864
having the same with test-e and my nipples.
thats the one thing i fear the most, so it would make sense.

>>40235715
What would you guys do if you had over 50 vials of Test E and 25 of Mast E? This shit should last a decade in a cold and dark place right?

>>40239911
darwinism at work.
what a idiot.
"I dont want side effects mimimim"

then stay natty you cuck

>>40239911
Why are redditors such low test beta faggots? I didn't read the thread, but from the thread's title it reinforces what I previously thought of Reddit.

>>40239982
>What would you guys do
sling two thirds of it, leave humanity behind using the rest kek

serious answer: a decade might be a long stretch but given correct storage a few years should be fine.

>>40239992
Please read it. Fun stuff.

>>40239911
Either he's cucked himself in ways I don't even want to imagine unrelated to LGD, or it was something else entirely sold as LGD. Not even reddit faggots can fuck up this hard usually, and not because they don't try to.

>>40239876
>>40239910
>>40239968

Aight thanks dudes appreciate it

>>40239911
>surreal suppression
>crippling lower back pain
>xboxhueg gains, all lost afterwards even more so without pct
>shady seller (implied) probably importing untested raws (implied)

Do I need to say it?

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>>40240108
you're saying he got sold...

CREATINE??

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>>40240145

Best way to avoid losing gains and gaining fat and sadness on PCT?

Also, I've been on for a long long time, can I still use standard Clomid/Nolva PCT? I don't have access to HCG

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>>40239103

Alright.

I got home and ate, and my symptoms came back straight away.

You guys wondering why I went to the ER from gas, take a look.

This is unpleasant

Ps: today was 435 calories over TDEE

I need to dial in my diet to where I do not want to blow my brains out eating +435

ATM just sitting in my bed wishing I was dead

>>40240198
nigger you cannot go from anorexic meth tweaker to huge surplus straight away. fucking eat at maintenance or maintenance +100 at the very most and drink lots of water along with paying attention to fiber. or just suffer like a dog for two weeks, it's not like I care.

>>40240198

Also, my body must naturally produce free hgh in Roiding tier levels .

Because Lenny mode achieved desu

The hgh gut without any hgh muscle, very nice

U Mirrin?

>>40240222

Ok, ok.

No, you're right.

Just sick of being SMALL get big CMON

But I'll do the reasonable t

>>40240145
Exactly. All who would have guessed superdrol now lost the game.

>>40240236
as I said, I don't care. but you can get big cmon without torturing your stomach and intestines first in fear of missing out on gains for fucks sake. I've seen diagnosed bulimics less dedicated to fast diet changes than you are.

i need to stop replying, this is making me mad more than it should.

>>40235715
any dicklets in /fraud/? How do you deal with it when a woman is fawning over your 6'2" 220lb shredded body, but then look disappointed when they see your dick?

I'm going to commit seppuku soon.

>>40240239
damn

>>40240286

>need to stop replying

I've shown I can listen to advice given to me itt desu

I will maintain for a week then go +100 then +150 until I'm at like a 300,400 surplus

>>40240170
Pls

>>40240170
GW the sarm helps control cortisol this will minimize fat gains. You can also do lower doses over a longer period to help with emotions.

>>40240330
you can and it shows, but whenever someone says anything somewhat wrong you'll rave like a monkey for three hours and that shit's annoying so I don't want to risk it.

that aside, yes, atta boy. ramp it up slowly until you feel accustomed to more food, lots of water 25g of fiber, then munch away after two weeks. usually not that big of a deal but when going from fatass --> meth anorexic --> richie pianoman you gotta pay attention aye.

well I'm starting to get light-headed/dizzy super often

pretty sure my BP must be through the goddamn roof and I'm about to die

>>40240350
I know nothing about SARMs at all. Legal in the US? If so, where to find? I'm guessing they're orals too ?

>>40240415
Just read a bit about GW, seems there's a high cancer risk... That sucks.

>>40238928
>blow 30k on degeneracy
>its okay bro their house and stable lives wont make them happy the food bank aint so bad

>>40240397
That's more like low blood pressure.

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>>40240376

Thanks breh

That girlie texted me some lovey dovey shit so maybe she does care, I hope so

Ps: she Russian and I am, Russians call Alex Sasha, it's like Pablo and Paul

PPS: I turned 22 today!

I guess the test for me now is how much of the weight I gain is gonna be blubber.

I don't know if it's 'bad genetics' or 'low test' or what but you see some guy's progress doing you know hypertrophic routines and you assume they put in effort and they gain 40 lbs of fat and 10 lbs of muscle in a year then spend a year cutting 40 lbs of fat and 11 lbs of muscle

Got my fingers crossed this isn't my fate and time will tell

Im starting to realize more that steroids is just another level of commitment really, to bodybuilding, excluding ppl on Reddit that steroids + forgot to lift weights.

Because no effort + roids= lol, effort +natty =good job, but effort and being Willing to pin yourself?

I sort of realiezed that today when I was getting blood taken, that pinning isn't fun

I still wanna stay natty until I actually achieve something this way, plus, I'm not eager to live alone and this girl is too new to move in with

And as we can see from moosey'a sudden disappearance living at home and pinning doesn't work (glands your parents must just trust you I guess
Or you're careful, I would leave some syringe lying around or something)

>>40240598

oh yeah she was at school cause it happened like noon east coast time so she couldnt visit or anything

>>40240598
She was probably sucking the dick of a 220lb roided chad that isn't afraid of needles as she texted you.

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>>40240598
>Sasha
huh

>>40240683
>>40240598
no wait, just now realized. that's why you shouldn't post in this autistic format, people tend to only skim them if ever

>>40240598
>when I was getting blood taken, that pinning isn't fun
not comparable in any way or form

>>40240571
Yeah but the odds of me having low bp on testosterone + nothing else that could lower bp are infinitely small

and hypoglycemia doesn't sound likely either considering my diet. hyperglycemia maybe, does that cause light-headedness?

>>40240704
how? it's just something you do. "omfg muh pain"

>>40240598
>>And as we can see from moosey'a sudden disappearance living at home and pinning doesn't work (glands your parents must just trust you I guess
>Or you're careful, I would leave some syringe lying around or something)
what happened to moosey?

and yeah i am extremely careful in everything i do

>>40240730
>>and hypoglycemia doesn't sound likely either considering my diet. hyperglycemia maybe
lmao hello fatass

>>40240749
bb diets are high in carbs my dude

>>40240781
>"omfg i got high blud shugah from eating rice, muh condishuns"

>>40240303
Get a daki

>>40240781
Dont bother with him
His diet is half benadryl

>>40240823
as of tomorrow it will be half superdrol

>>40240643

Nice input

>caring about what girls want

Get big come on anon, until girls are disgusted by you

>>40240704

It's the same?

I dunno, it didn't hurt, but it was an unpleasant thought that their was a needle inside me

I guess you guys are numb to it but the first time you had one inside you , didn't it seem odd that their a metal thing taking your blood/putting shit inside your body?

Obviously If you determined enough to like, wake up and go to the gym then the 'pain' of pinning is nothing compared to the rewards

Whats the shelf life of some test-e oil and some d-bol. I have some left over from a cycle I did a while back. Didnt do the cycle as long as I was going to do it. Cut it short, was thinking about starting another one here soon.

>>40240737
a hamfisted nurse clumsily sticking a drawing needle into your vein to suckle out a few ounces and more of blood is not comparable to injecting like a cc at most of ronalds IM with a smaller pinning needle ezpz, pip aside. we're literally talking about the same thing.

>>40240882
dbol, many many many years.

test E shouldn't be used if it's an old vial and it's been over like 3-5 months. if it's an unused vial then you're good for a couple of years if it was stored properly

>>40240950
>injecting like a cc at most
Up the dose pussy

>>40240979
stop replying to me immediately

>>40240990
>never talk to me or my wifes son ever again

>>40240990
>>40240994
kek wasn't even me

>>40240979
no need to, I like pinning smaller amounts more often, old habit
>also what are ester lengths

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>>40240859
Happy birthday! Are you still in hospital?

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Oh I just remembered guys. What do you think it means if you are in this kinda depressed haze for a few days after you nut?

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Tax return season motherfuckers time to get back on cycle after a long natty year
Story time
>be at show recently, tipsy
>talking to this one girl, dude next to her
>flirt w her and shit
>dude disappears, she gets in my face
>next thing I know we're making out and I'm finger banging her
>lose her in the crowd at some point because tipsy and distracted by other chicks
>text her later
>about to meet up, says she can't ditch dudeman though
>"well your brother wouldn't feel weird being a third wheel would he?"
>"he is your brother right?"
>turns out they're dating and she's using him financially
>she tells him I'm gay and we all party one time, I almost feel bad lol he bought me drinks and seemed like p cool dude, as soon as he leaves for a call, pulls me to the side and sucks my dick
>never get chance to fuck her
>texting recently and start bragging a little too much about pulling threesomes and fucking this model
>she starts ignoring me
>tell her "I'm bad at keeping secrets when I'm horny", because she's relying on him entirely financially
>send her screenshots of texts where she suggests saying I'm gay, admitting to using him financially, and telling me when he's not around
>no response yet
Lel cheating cunts got it coming one way or another

>>40241189
low test

>>40241189
low test/somewhat high e2, brain tumor, cumming so hard your dopamine receptors go awol.

none of those might apply in your case though kek

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>>40241190
Girls like that spread disease. Don't forget ya jimmy hat!
>>40241198
>>40241222
>brain tumor, cumming so hard your dopamine receptors go awol.
Lol wtf.
I am asking for a friend. I guessed vitamin d deficiency and he confirmed his bloodwork showed that and he started taking vitamin d but not much change. I told him to get more bloods with test, e2, and prolactin on there.
I'd just never heard of this before but you guys seem to think it's a common low T symptom.

>>40241286
not that common but not unheard of. also yes, if 6-10k IU D3 won't fix it, check e2 and prolactin definitely.

>>40241190
>blackmailing a woman
never forget two can play that game, and her calling rape on you can ruin your life a lot more than her losing her sugar daddy

>>40241286
>Lol wtf
both legit symptoms of either, also orgasm headaches. was blatantly memeing though kek

>>40241321
Thanks for the reminder m8, if she goes for it I guess I'll record it and make her say over text she's willing for evidence if that were to happen

>>40241374
>I guess I'll record it
post link. asking for a friend

>>40241374
Good luck, retard

>>40241374
I'm pretty sure blackmailing a girl into having sex IS rape

so like, good luck and shit

>>40237853
It's fine. You know almost nothing about me financially or my situation. I'll be okay, thank you for your concern, but yes, in my situation it is worth
it.

>>40238841
For fucks sake stop mistaking me for masT.

Thanks tho. I'm in a very unique position that I'm extremely thankful for, enabling me to do this and come back as if nothing ever happened or better.

This isn't just me blowing all my money I have, I've been given the opportunity to be gone for literally 5 years just relaxing and exploring the world having a blast with no worries. I understand the downside to doing this normally, but I don't have to go through that. Just chill and enjoy my future blogposting from across the world and finding dope ass gyms.

>>40241374
This is a bad idea because blackmail and slander are still illegal and now there is hard evidence of it.

And she can screenshot conversations herself and insinuate you're intending to blackmail her.

You're (an assumed) big guy. LE will assume guilty until innocent in your case. Don't play with fire, just find a new ho if she ignores you doofus.

>>40241406
Damn that would make a good porn, if easily go viral on pornhub.

How long you guys say I should wait to follow through on my threat if she doesn't respond? I suppose I'll give her a day or two, any more and that's too much time for her to find her own means of living without relying on him

>>40241488
You are really dumb.

>>40240978
Yeah. Its an unused vial. Its been in a cold dark place for like 4-5 months. Should I just say fuck it, and use it?

Take steroids and u end up like Chris Benoit.

>>40241522
I've used test that was over a year old sealed. Perfectly fine.

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>>40241442
Really? That's stupid.
Was unaware of this
If she's choosing to have sex with me of her own accord, because she doesn't want her bf to know she was cheating, that seems to me it should be legal. The law is all fucked up man.

Well, in this case I'm going to play it a lot more safe, but still going for it, she wanted it in the first place, so I doubt she'll object to it, and if she does, fine I kind of wanted to put her ass on blast anyways.
Yeah I can find a new hoe, she's just a model and sexy as fuck and it's not every day I get the chance to fuck solid 10s, not yet at least, but oh well

>>40241469
>For fucks sake stop mistaking me for masT.
That is the sole reason I even lift. Goals, m8

>>40241488
please do not seriously consider this

>>40241570
Yes it's stupidly illegal to say "fuck me or I'll deprive you of your financial security even if you're a ho". How can you not see how ethically fucked your thought process is?

Either she wants to smash or doesn't. She is allowed to change her mind.

Here's my play: leave her the fuck alone and watch her seek out validation from you wondering where her toy went, then you shut her down with a pic of your dick in another hos pussy.

>>40241571
Literally the reason I started tripping was because I posted a pic and some anon laughed and said I even looked like masT when I'm intentionally trying to mimic his poses, and masT got butt hurt. It was a funny day.

Then people find out I'm 3/4 his size and 4 inches shorter and put my body into perspective.

>>40241828
Well, that was your 15 minutes of fame kek

Is doing a ''cycle'' of Clomid can be worth it? Actually did one as a PCT, and did not feel bad like people can say. And more, while PCT, I was still able to make progress, did not loss that much of pounds, not really depress, etc.

Im now 2 years off, but was wondering if doing a clomid cycle for one month could help to increase gainz, get bigger balls and maybe even increase testo afterward

>>40241892
i did clomid for as a trt alternative for a while. i think it ened up fucking up my knees and it can damage your eyes... it will increase testosterone/strength/muscle mass, but i think it really wasn't worth it.

>>40241892
>bigger balls
Wait thats not how this works right?
your balls are shrunk from the roids so clomid/nolva brings em back again
they dont make em bigger though?

First cycle. On the quad injections I can feel the needle go into my skin, then thru the fat and into the muscle. But on glute injections I only feel the needle go thru the skin then nothing else no matter how deep I push it. Am I injecting into fat or something on accident? Halp

>>40241936
Already heard that male pornstars use clomid for bigger cum/balls, donc know if it can grow them bigger than before

>>40241934
For how long you did it? What was your mood/general health?

>>40241869
Manlets. When will they learn?

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>>40241570
Shit like this has made almost give up on women. I'm just going to foster my relationship with my loyal qt waifu; pic related.

Every time I find a gorgeous girl who comes off as caring, feminine and capable of a long-term relationship, they proceed to tell me that they a beta dyel boyfriend after fucking me.

>>40242024
Never. That's the fun part.

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Is it narcissism if you're turned on by your own body so much you can jack off to just your reflection? Or is it some other deeper mental issue. Have I made it?

Asking for a friend.

>>40241626
yeah im the ethically fucked one when she was literally living purely on dudemans money telling him she loves him and sucking my dick the next room over, she put herself in the situation, should totally be legal because she should be forced to tell the truth or do something else she may not necessarily want to

>>40242054
At least I'm not a lanklet… r-right?

>>40242060
Nah, it means you're finally making it. I get the urge to jack off when I see my glutes in the mirror. They're just so juicy and better than 95% females'

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>>40242082
Anything you do will be seen as overcompensation by men and girls alike. Dysmorphia does help but not much. Have fun.

>>40242064
You can't control her actions, you can only react.

Tell me: does it make you a big man to take advantage of a woman because she wanted to put out and then changed her mind?

So what if she's an unloyal ho looking for a quick buck? That doesn't change that you shouldn't stoop to her level and try to coerce pussy from her because she's ethically at fault first.

Be a real person and just walk away.

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>>40241189
>depressed haze for a few days after you nut?
Used to be the story of my life on 275 ng/dl natty T levels. My suspicion is it's low T and the post-masturbation cortisol spike [1] where your adrenals don't have any regulatory feedback (from normal test levels). Therefore, your cortisol levels probably remain elevated for longer than they would in normal/high test individuals.

I never had high e2 natty so I kinda doubt that it's the cause but then again my T was so low that I wouldn't be surprised if the ratio was still out of whack there. There's also something called POIS that sounds somewhat similar to his symptoms (and mine) but the fact that I no longer get that response after nutting makes me think it was just a T and cortisol related issue.

Still don't like ejaculation due to the mental association I've made with it and those negative symptoms, but I guess that's fine since I'm trying to minimize my interaction with women as much as possible.

[1] http://riahreneeroe.blogspot.com/2011/08/running-head-masturbation-induced.html (couldn't find a better link but if you're familiar with the subjective mental effects of cortisol and have ever been low T it's a no brainer)

>>40242102
You have a way better chance of being judged on your merits by men, however. Otherwise you're spot on.

>>40242224
>You have a way better chance of being judged on your merits by men, however.
other lifters will mire if you have a nice body, normies will hate you

>>40242224
Believe it or not, there are short women in this world who are attracted to muscularly developed short men. I don't have any sfw pictures of her but bimbo can vouch for currentgf lol.

Saying blanket statements like that >>40242252 is silly. Everyone's different, if you have a really respectful and positive attitude, can joke around and be fun to hang out with, no one is going to dislike you for being a jacked manlet. Just be you, get out of your basement/home gym, and SOMEONE will like you no matter who you are.

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>>40242224
>Still don't like ejaculation due to the mental association I've made with it and those negative symptoms, but I guess that's fine since I'm trying to minimize my interaction with women as much as possible.

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>>40242316
I know it's fedora tier but I don't think I've met any woman in the last 7 months IRL who was mentally any better than pic related. Same normie facebook shit memes pouring out of their mouths whenever it's time for "conversation." At this point I try to keep it all business.

>>40242105
not doing it for validation, doing it to get my dick inside this 10/10 model, shes down, we're meeting up tonight, i told her nevermind, shes free, im not gonna say anytihng, and got her to say she just wants it, so its not even really that much of blackmail now

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>>40242360
/fit/ truly is /r9k/ with a gym pass kek

but all shitposting aside, I see where you're coming from, had a somewhat similar mindset at some point too. which has changed greatly by now, which is why I am ridiculing you, but deep down I understand the feels.

gif still related

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>>40242410
Keke you should have seen me before TRT.

My views toward women have changed a lot since then. I do want to fuck them now (as to not wanting it at all previously) and I do realize that there are some good ones out there. I think highly of the women in my family and some of my family friends.

I don't blame women indiscriminately for my life's woes or feelings of inadequacy (which have for the most part vanished after T levels normalized and after I dialed in AI actually) but just find that I'm happier on the whole when I'm not worrying about women or trying to meet/court them.

Not really MGTOW, more like "women can't compete with chasing professional/financial goals."

>>40242410
What changed your mindset btw?

>>40242394
She's a time bomb and you're stupid if you fuck her. It'll bite you.

>>40242469
>women can't compete with chasing professional/financial goals
I know this feel all too well
Mostly its because in 5 years time your career and finances will still be there, your loving gf will probably have left after 5 years

>>40242477
getting swole (pre-roids, lifted natty for like 5 years before test) and just stopping to worry about women in general the way you do. if I wanted to put my dick in one, I tried to and either did or failed, if I didn't want to, I didn't. at some point acquired gf by happenstance/without trying, whom I am happy with, end of story.

>>40242469
flawless mindset, autistic execution. focus on your career or w/e, don't make it a crusade against your libido.

Is clarence kennedy natty?

>>40242469
>Not really MGTOW
Got bad news for you son.

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>>40242036
stealing my waifu like its totaly safe and normal in this thread to do.

bitch imma find you and steal your pillows, jiz in them and slap you with a months worth of cum crusted mushroom filled bags of hate.

>>40242552
just legumes and rice bro,no meat hormone

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>>40242645
>jiz in them and slap you with a months worth of cum crusted mushroom

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>>40242574
Idk man, mgtow or any organized ""movement"" of this type tends to get infiltrated with incels who spam r9k memes until it eventually becomes a non-trivial part of that movement's creed. Also I've heard that mgtow is in favor of promiscuity and is just against marriage, which is pretty fucking subversive, indicates that it is also infiltrated if not orchestrated by anti-nationalist actors, and is generally kinda the opposite of how I look at the situation. I know that some degree of promiscuity is effectively harmless and somewhat tolerable but to shill against marriage just because dumbasses get burned by it and divorce laws seems pretty insidious to me.

>tldr I think MGTOW is a (((psyop))) and hate the thought of being associated with it

>>40242645
Do you use a daki+onahole combo like jerry?

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>>40242685
that is escactly the post i was thinking of desu kawaii ne ?


>>40242693
nah just onahole might buy daki soon though i need something to hold in my sleep

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EWJSBA0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

>>40242693
Don't politicize everything. Just work and make money, do you and you'll probably find a person you mesh well with.

Romance isn't hard. Everyone just wants everything now.

>>40242693
I correct myself, you are /r9k/ and /pol/ buying a gym pass together. not even criticizing your views at all, just reaaaally trying to underline that you're overthinking all this way. too. fucking. hard.

>>40242715
>that is escactly the post i was thinking of
my nigga

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>>40242781
i saw you in last thread but had to go to work so sorry m8y

but after buying and trying 8 different ones(becuase im not poor and i broke 3 of them) i found this one to be the best overall

silicone is what your looking for since it makes lubeing up easy as shit instead of using special cream you can self lube with your dick sauce or spit if your that desperate. its also way more comfy than the rest of them and keeps its tightness longer. last ones barely lasted 2 months this one is going on 6 months and still tight.

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>>40242744
>Don't politicize everything.
#1 obstacle in my "love life." Maybe one day when I stop browsing /pol/ for like 4 hours a day I'll understand how the rest of the world does it. Good advice assuming you were posting earlier too, thx anon <3

>>40242715
The nose made me lol. Never seen that before. I kinda like the idea of those but feel like I'd always be self-conscious of it if I ever bought one. Less so with a daki I'd imagine - just flip it inside out and it's a normal pillow case.

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>>40242868
just buy it and eat the pride imma do that with the daki, i see no shame in buying onaholes since its way better than the hands btw and not like i ever have time to go out and try/fail to score. much easier to have one on hand and wash it out after your done.

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>>40242868
>/pol/ has unironically made me loathe women and their tricky schemes to ruin the world for good
>let's ask the resident weirdos for cringy weeb sextoy advice
JUST

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>PSMF day 3

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>>40242781
>/pol/
Yeah you found the culprit. No coincidence that the 7 month mark where I stopped finding women palatable was about 3 months after I started getting really heavily involved in reading pol.

>>40242933
>doesn't realize that jerry and grandpa are the true alphas of /fraud/

Actually what interests me about the waifu+onahole/daki combination is the conflict between the mental purity that I imagine generates the exclusive attraction to women only in their rarified/abstract form of an anime archetype or trope coupled with the hedonism that makes someone think that their hand isn't good enough to get their rocks off and then need something modeled on the vaginal rugae of a japanese pornstar with multiple holes and seductive boxart.

I asked jerry about this once and he said "azusa is pure but I am not" which I thought was pretty poetic, so I was going to see if grandpa was on the same wavelength.

>>40242999
Nice jerrbears but seriously you think too much go outside

Why can't you weebs just get a fleshlight and a body pillow and be done with it? By the time you get a daki/onahole/whatever combo you've already entered territories surrounding forever alone "Never gonna have a qt wife ever." Mode.

>>40243065
Or you know just get a girlfriend or fuck random women.

>>40242999
you even know what is causing you to think like this and still don't try to change it. as much as I usually like you when you post deep insights into literature and scientific approaches to roiding, please remove yourself from this doomed earth.

>>40243065
daki and onahole literally is weebese for body pillows and fleshlights

>>40243073
>>40243076

These people are nowhere close to being capable of fucking multiple women. Let alone one. The least they could do is try to ostracize women completely. Like for fucks sake what kind of mentally retarded ape actually believes women are inherently evil and they're all ultra left wing boogy women who are out to file false rape claims on you?

How fucking sheltered and autistic can you be? Buy a barely NORMAL fleshlight and body pillow and sort your autism out until you can meet someone who compliments you as a human being.

Because that's what it comes down to, people being too autistic, closeted, or brain dead to find a wholesome partner.

>>40243130
Try NOT to ostracize* what the hell am I doing with my life today that I have to explain this on a Korean barbecue appreciation board

>>40243152
I wish I spent my time on a kbbq appreciation board

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>>40242224
>Used to be the story of my life on 275 ng/dl natty T levels. My suspicion is it's low T and the post-masturbation cortisol spike [1] where your adrenals don't have any regulatory feedback (from normal test levels). Therefore, your cortisol levels probably remain elevated for longer than they would in normal/high test individuals.
Good lord lol. Worst T I ever had was like 405 and that was after some meh tier pct.
Thanks for the info though I will pass it on. Hopefully he gets bloods. Seems like a good kid.
>Still don't like ejaculation due to the mental association I've made with it and those negative symptoms, but I guess that's fine since I'm trying to minimize my interaction with women as much as possible.
You got this now! Give the ladies that high T sperm!

In other news it's day 5 of dnp. Still don't feel much but I tried eating some carbs and I got the heat and sweating within 20 mins. Down only 2.8lbs but I am pretty sure I am holding a fuck ton of water especially since I added in the CJC.
Pooped for the third time today. All this damn broccoli is going through me like crazy lol.
Bought a fuck ton of silver today. Market crash starts this month folks!

>>40243130
Not same anon, but look around where you are. Did you really just get your jimbolds flustered because 4chan turns autistic virgins into dragon ball z bossfight versions of themselves just by exposure and peer pressure? Sad to say it, but lurk moar. This is in no way uncommon or even worrying, or the final form (albeit on the severe side). Let them have this. They'll realize 20 years down the road that suicide indeed is an option.

>>40243177
Word.

>>40243177
Same. I had really good kbbq in Arizona. Nothing of the type here tho, but my company I work for is developing one right now.

I'm just not gonna be here to enjoy it. I might get to go taste the menu before I leave tho so HYPEEE.

>>40243228
I just have what's her face cook and I'm gtg

Korean at home whenever I want ;)

>>40243234
Oof. Maybe I should settle down someday with a Korean. My kids could be amazing at video games, smart, and Asian with great food. The fuck, now that I think about it, are Japanese women btfo by the South Koreans?

>>40243271
Yes because Koreans are pretty and have the capacity for t h I C c

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>>40243271
>>40243322
I want kimchi...

>>40243271
the only thing south koreans are good at is plastic surgery

>>40243411
And internet

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>>40243436
And computer games.

>>40243271
not yet btfo but damn they're trying their very best

really come on i am hoping this is coincidence
>run out of new labs tren
>start using the free replacements i got from the first lab that gave me bunk/underdosed shit
>almost a week later
>moonface
>cardio is way back up
>no more crippling calf pumps
>extremely lessened night sweats
>way less anger
>M O O N F A C E

like really

does he just naturally brew his "tren" with 80% npp

>>40243774
I'm struggling to find a scenario where this would be a coincidence kek

12th week of my test e cycle

started with 250mg/week and upped the dosage to 500mg by the third week

does it make any sense to do 750mg for the last 6 weeks?

also planning to lower the dosage to 100-150mg/week for another 12 weeks to cut without losing too much of my gains. i´m planning to go on trt anyway so dont bully me please

>>40243792
so retarded dude honestly. I only realized this by thinking about it as i took a nap

I didn't even pay much attention until I connected the dots.

I realized today I had 0 crippling calf pumps when for the past couple weeks just walking to my dorm made me want to cut my legs off (kind of up hill). realized I was perfectly not out-of-breath walking when usually I would get winded going up 2 flights of stairs...

wondering why i have a fucking MOON FACE and bloated as shit, when a week ago I was thinking i looked disgusting covered in veins.

wondering why i am not getting pissed at being woken up when usually i get pissed beyond belief...

fuck me honestly now i have to blow a few hundred on tren......................................

>>40243931
well, at least you noticed. I know enough people who wouldn't. order some tren and run what you have at retarded doses in the meantime. whatever it takes and all that jazz kek

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>>40243931
>brags about literally finding 2k bucks by sheer accident in his room
>woe is me I have to spend money on sterons
Go fuck yourself.

>>40243921
Nah just keep it at 500 for the rest of the blast (12-16 weeks total) and then drop down to the cruise dose and cut there.

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>>40243271

>>40243990
i don't think i want to run this shit at "retarded doses" because it is npp (don't think deca would kick in that fast? or at least i hope not because i don't want this shit in my system for that long...)

and it is bloating me like fuck.

>>40243990
stop fucking saying kek

it's literally in half your posts

>>40240170
Bump for PCT question pls

>>40244153
PCT dose and duration question*

Was just gonna do
100/100/50/50
40/40/20/20

Same as usual but dunno if I should go longer or use different doses since I've been on for a couple years

>>40244115
probably is, yes. well, throw it out, better luck next time, no offense but you seem to be able to afford another batch from a more trusted lab easily

for what it's worth be glad it was at least another compound and not some awful stuff that could probably harm you. i've heard some horrible things about ugl tren.

>>40244132
I do it just to piss you off, I'm too busy to actually troll people right now so I'll just wait for someone to be annoyed by how I express cheap humor and/or sarcasm for the same effect with less effort. KEK!!!1!

in all seriousness, only >>40243792 >>40243990 and this one you are now reading are me ITT. so you were wrong. it even is in ALL my posts.

>>40244172
Doses should be fine. Personally I would extend it to six weeks with the last two being 50 clomid and 20 nolva (so basically just keep doing what you're doing for another two weeks). Also look into getting HCG or HMG. And there's always triptorelin if you're scared or brave.

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Do you guys notice any weird visual or other side effects from ralox when using it for gyno reversal?

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>>40244256
and this one >>40242410 and this one >>40241323
and this one >>40241222 and this one >>40241021
and I'm too lazy to go up but they're definitely you because pic related

>>40244319
damn son, didn't think you'd be that mad. oh well, I'll stop the k-word or any further shitposting then. don't want to overstay my welcome

>>40244308
none to worry about (hot flashes and mild uncalled for headache iirc, been a while). it does have some indication for cataracts and optic nerve damage though, as most serms do. what effects do you get? I'm not sure I can help but I'm interested nonetheless.

So doc I went to see for my ribcage and general health checkup took an x ray and said besides having an old broken rib (I fucking knew I broke it wrestling.) it looks perfectly normal and he thinks that the protrusion is inflamed cartilage instead of bone. Perscribed me Indocin and told me go take it if I want, but it's not a forever fix. I'll take it and then it'll be not inflamed for a couple weeks then come back. Said he sees my condition quite a lot I guess? Still sounds weird.

Idk I can't drink alcohol on that shit and it has some p nasty sides but maybe I'll take a few doses of my script for a week or so see if it works then come off it if it doesn't? Any suggestions? He didn't even give me any dosage advice, just take it for a few days and the inflammation will be gone LUL K BYE.

Idk I'm just super skeptical.

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2 questions to help guide my reading:

Anyone here try zinc supplementation to better manage E2 sides or reduce the amount of AI needed? Been doing a bit of DHT reading after mossad suggested that it's not responsible for hair loss like most people think and it appears that zinc deficiency is a pretty good suspect. In rats at least, reduces 5ar activity and androgen receptors, increases aromatase activity and estrogen receptors.

Has anyone tried supplementing pregnenolone and/or DHEA to try and get those "wellness" gains that many report by running HCG on blast/cycle? Still haven't found conclusive proof of this but the theory I've read is that when jumping on roids not only does test production stop but cholesterol->pregnenolone production or pregnenolone->DHEA production stops so a lot of hormones that are produced by those precursors aren't circulating in your system. Apparently some people get good "wellness" or QoL benefits from supplementing topical pregnenolone - seems promising if it doesn't come with the extra estrogen burden that HCG supplementation seems to come with.

>>40244308
I was taking UGL ralox pre-TRT for a while (not as part of a gyno removal protocol or anything) but didn't get these effects. Got a bit of brain fog and something like anxiety the morning after but that could have just been low T symptoms so it's hard to say for sure that the ralox caused it. What effects are you getting?

>>40243076
>>40243054
Sorry friends, I just like to see how deep the rabbit hole goes before giving anything up. It's how I got caught in some pretty pathetic dependencies with girls/weed/otherdrugs in the past but when I come out of it usually my resolve is strengthened. I'll snap out of this /pol/ and weaponized autism kick soon enough (I think).

Also the more I read about the effects of DHT on the brain I start to think that I might just have high 5-ar activity... too bad the test costs $123 otherwise I'd love to check and confirm.

whats /fraud/s take on perma cruise?
Ive done 2 cycles and i never felt better than i did on test, pinning a smaller dose every week for the foreseeable future seems very appealing to me at this point

>>40244807
250 test 40 var for general well being

>>40244870
>cruising on var
"no"

>>40244878
I'm rolling my eyes at you because there are hiv patients and children that "cruise" var at 1-2mg/kg for years

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>>40244878
Well he cruised on tren for a year iirc.

>>40244644
>>40244538
>What effects are you getting?

Not running it yet, just curious.

>>40244644
Oral DHEA for three months because I got it (relatively) dirt cheap and thought why not. Felt rather fine and dandy but I'm convinced some of it was for sure placebo/anticipation from reading about benefits. Can't hurt though I suppose (at least not in sane doses). No worthwhile input on pregnenolone, considered briefly but never actually did.

>>40244908
March to October basically.

>>40244918
Thanks for responding with your experience! Were you on gear while supplementing the oral DHEA? Interested to see if the idea of "backfilling" the steroid pathway that's shut down when you're suppressed has any practical merit.

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>>40244922
Yee son. I've been on it since October. I should probably drop it now and start it again closer to summer.

>>40244900
>at 1-2mg/kg for years
"no"

>>40244944
Go do your research you stupid faggot

>>40244955
yeah I'm right and you're wrong tho

the studies over multiple years are within the range of .05 and .2mg/kg, nowhere near 1-2mg/kg.

please stop being wrong and go back to shit blogging about stuff nobody cares about and can skip over without risking their health

>>40244962
Literally no risk in cruising var aside from lipid values which is easily mediated by balancing your rations of omega 6 to omega 3 in a 2:1 ratio which is something you should be doing anyways.

>>40244870
Do you split your var up into multiple doses or just do one dose an hour or two pwo? Reading conflicting stuff about benefits of consistent levels throughout day vs. higher peak concentration during work out. Everyone on gh15 seems to use like 100mg minimum. Probably won't think about that until I see how 50mg affects my lipids.

>>40244978
"no"

you're an excellent broscientist who can say shit that sounds true to retards who don't know anything and don't look up anything you say, but you're wrong almost every time

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>>40244983
40mg is such a low dose for a 100kg+ dude anyways (which you should be if you're gonna be cruising long term).

I split my doses up as am and pwo.

>>40244993
That's why my bloodwork and results are stellar right?

>>40244978
do you think its efficient to perma cruise on 200 mg of test e and then for 6/8 weeks every year bump it up to 500/600 to get extra for special periods of time and then go back down to reg cruise levels?
maybe add something like dbol to this small "blast"? is it doable or better stick to test only?

also is cyp superior to e for that purpose?

>>40245010
post one (1!) blood test result

>>40238278
Honestly memek has skyrocketed my hunger. I've gone from 2 to 4 meals a day. I'm actually hungry when I wake up 8n the morning. I'm actually hungry full stop I'd give it a whirl

>>40245022
Post sufficient evidence showing that low dose var isn't effective for cruising.

>>40245017
>do you think blast and cruising is efficient
jesus what hole did you crawl out of

>>40245035
upping low risk test only dosage for a few weeks every year hardly qualifies as blasting though

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I watched this guys video and he said hes 100% natty. Seems legit

>>40245058
Actually it'd be pretty effective especially if you paired it with a peaking routine like smolov.

>>40245079
test e vs cyp for cruise?

>>40245001
Thanks bimbo. Will split as well. Already got my omega 6/3 oil caps so I think I'm good to go - might wait and get a baseline lipid test just for curiosity.

>>40245017
You're literally describing blasting and cruising. Is your question whether 8 weeks is a meaningful enough amount of time to "blast" and see results (because your T levels are already on the high end of natty on 200mg)?

Maybe rephrase it that way to bring the emphasis of the question on the shorter time period of the blast relative to a normal cycle. As for your cyp/E question, check out some of the bb forums online for anecdotes about feelings toward ester length, they might help you figure out what sort of "superiority" one route may have over another.

>>40245088
Interchangeable. Difference is negligible from what I understand.

>>40244172
That's a fuckton of nolva and clomid, I'd slow.down on that you're gonna feel like shit.

25/20 clomi and nolva should be all you need. Instead of nuking yourself and feeling like absolute ass because of all the serms you're pumping into your system, just start slow and extend the pct as needed.

>>40245095
i see but i felt as if it didnt really qualify as a "blast" because it will be done for very little time and without any high end drug, just upping the test dosage a little bit to be better for a small period of time and then go back to reg cruise.
My point was to know if upping the test dosage for a little time is desirable or if there would be risks or lack of results that would make it useless

>>40244937
I was "only" cruising on 250 test so I can't really give too much input on the way you intend to do your research if you mean to supply it during heavy blasts. I'll list what I noticed and advise you to read it with a HUGE grain of salt because as I said, I have no fucking way of deciding what is placebo and what isn't. Oh, and I took 75mg ED for the first week and then slowly ramped it up to 200mg ED, but as I understand it dosing advice is really a bit fucking arbitrary considering its huge importance in the body. Not my problem though.

>libido increase, nothing spectacular but like a light bump towards the right direction, somewhat subjective
>harder erections, objective, ask then-gf
>better sleep
>a bit better fat loss, I did a mini-cut before a big day halfway into these three months and it went surprisingly well
>subjective-ish increase in lbm gain, more than I'd usually expect from that test dose but I was changing diet and routine a bit at that time too so literally no way to tell exactly
>slightly lower fasted morning blood sugar (one of my parents has type 1 so I often test mine out of paranoia even though I'm fine otherwise)
>general mood improvement (subjective but I found it pleasant)

I just wasted your time, didn't I, but I thought I'd share because you asked.

>>40245033
it's a well established fact that var trashes lipids. I could also link you studies about that but you know it's true. the question is whether your broscience garbage works to offset the damage to ldl, hdl and ast/alt

and the answer is no.

but you're proud of your bloods, so clearly you can post them to prove me wrong, right? you brought them up after all

>>40245088
jesus christ

>>40245095
>ester length
jesus christ

>>40245126
jesus christ

>>40245167
yes?

>>40245183
Fuck off ya jew

>>40245167
Don't reply to me or my son ever again

>>40245167
How is balancing omegas bioscience?

>>40245167
>>40245183
>>40245188
what

>>40245225
shut up alexa

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>>40245254
>alexa

If I have Asin and Nolva on hand, can I safely combat gyno at a BF% of 18?

Should I just drop the Test dose to 300-400mg a week to try a cut instead of 500mg?

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>>40245360
have you considered not starting a cycle while fat and just cutting first

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>>40245078
Face lookin like supermang.