/asg/ - Airsoft General

I'd say not cool. But then I think that unit impressions are a bit suspect too.

Each to their own though.

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>Are terrorist inspired loadouts acceptable?
I really think it depends on the group you're doing, and where you're located. For example, a lot of people won't bat an eye in the US if you pull up to your field dressed like a Provo, but the "samper fee deviled egg" JROTC types will get heated if you wear a headscarf or pakol, waving a black flag, and keep screaming ALLAHU AKBAR; but you'd also probably get some shit in the UK if you showed up dressed like a Provo.

I personally think Haji kits are in sort of poor taste considering the recent events around the globe, but I'm not going to stop a guy from having fun as long as they realize the difference between having fun playing the bad guy, and getting yourself on a genuine watch list.
If I'm doing a rebel/militia kit for a game, I just keep it vague and use an older gun, a load bearing harness like a Chicom or ALICE, a balaclava, and a thrifted track jacket since that's pretty much every militant/rebel/militia group since the 70s.

2bh a Viet Cong loadout would be fun to make

>>2753702
One man's terrorist, and all that. But I think you would have to be a bit of a tool just to rock up to a game dressed as a terrorist, Nazi, Belgian or whatever other controversial uniform (unless the event actually called for it).

>>2753875
I wouldn't wear sandals to a game.

>>2754021
But dressing up as a wannabe navy seal / slavboo is somehow less cringe?

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>>2754258
The difference is that it's built into the culture. A lot of the people who get into airsoft in the first place do it because of shit like Call of Duty or Battlefield, as opposed to getting into it because they came from real shooting or Civil War Reenactments. A lot of those people come in wanting to recreate the heroes or villains in the media they consume, and this is an easy way to do it. As it stands, most of the games that're out are modern military shooters, and we're only just now seeing more shit outside of that since the culture is finally shifting away from it all.

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>>2753702
Hey /asp/ I'm looking at buying pic related as babys first airsoft rifle. Will this be alright or should a get an M4 instead?
Ive played enough airsoft to know that I'm going to get some use out of whatever I pick up but I'm not looking for a super expensive gun.

http://www.justbbguns.ie/product/airsoft-pro-guns/pro-aeg-rifles/3138/m806-aeg-m14-ris-airsoft-gun

>>2754716
Is there no way for you to get a CYMA M14 over there in Ireland? I did a quick look and the only ones I could find were over €200 which is fucking crazy because they're under like $125 here in the US.
Gunfire has them for €160 and they do free downgrades to 1 Joule, but I know little of Ireland's laws regarding airsoft other than the whole 1J thing.
https://gunfire.pl/product-eng-1152194840-CM032A-rifle-replica-olive.html

If you can't, then I'd say save up for something from a slightly more reputable brand such as JG within your borders. Their G36 is stupid cheap and near indestructible.
https://gunfire.pl/product-eng-1152189535-JG0638-V2-subcarbine-replica-black.html

>>2754462
And that's good or bad?

>>2753702
I personally run an "Insurgent" loadout with a surplus M81 shirt, civilian style camo cargo pants, a modern cheapo Chinese chest rig, green shmagh, and the leather holster for my TT33, and carry an AK, MP40, or Sten. The main reason I did this is because it was cheap, fit a lot of my favourite guns, and added a bit of flavour to the countless waves of tactical types on my field. I mainly do it to have fun being the bad guy to shoot at, and hence why I went fairly vague with the "Insurgent" style, not trying to copy ISIS or the Taliban or what have you. I came at it more a la Insurgency. I think this is acceptable, some people may disagree. I do have to say though that coming with an ISIS flag tied to your back or something would be pretty fucking weird and I wouldn't be for it.

>>2753875
I have one, it's not perfectly historically accurate but it was very cost effective and also drew heavily from my favourite gun pool. Definately one of my favourites, and is a lot of fun. I would suggest to anyone that likes old AKs and older weapons to give it a try.

>>2754462
>shifting away from it
I think that's also why fewer people are getting into it. Since a lot of the shooters aren't taking place in the 70's-2000's anymore, and instead are in the distant future; little shits can't put together their favorite COD class in real life anymore.

This isn't really a bad thing, but at least from what I've noticed, new people are becoming more and more rare in my scene up here in the north east. In a lot of ways it seems to be reverting back to how it was in the Late 90's / early 2000's; with a smaller more tight knit groups. Airsoft here is pretty cliquey these days.

>>2756172
Are you sure you're not just making an assumption based on attendance at your local site? From what I can tell, across the board, the hobby is still growing.

>>2756172
Every year the events I go to get bigger and bigger. Airsoft is changing in that people want more organized and bigger budget games rather than weekend games. The pickup game is declining whereas Milsim/Ops are growing. This also means that the average age of new players should go up a bit from being 17-18 to more into the 20s as the preferred method of playing by the older players is more expensive and thus requires a lot of mommy and daddy's money or getting a job.

>>2757032
Like >>2757226 said

The local fields are dying, and the big ops are growing, which in general means the hobby itself is dying.

The vast majority of people that play airsoft aren't willing to shell out thousands, and travel half way across the country to get involved in a big event like that. Like I said in the other thread the "weekend warrior" is dead. It's all milsim people, and little kids that drop off after a few months. It's reverting back to its roots, which is good in a way, but bad in the sense that it's going to take a while for it to come back to what it was in 2007-2013

>>2757434
I wouldn't say its dying but rather changing. By becoming more focused on a now rather large adult population into airsoft we'll see more focus by companies into new guns instead of just rehashed 150 dollar M4s designed to get any kid into the sport. Before the 2007-2013 period airsoft was just as much a hobby about collection as it was the game itself. An older fanbase with more money means that many manufacturers can develop niche markets of unique slavshit and the like, sell them for 300 or more a piece and get sales because its a rare gun to find. I'm going to enjoy seeing companies making airsoft versions of guns we don't have yet since everyone and their mother has an M4 or AK at this point.

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Pls rate my gatt

Specna Arms M4 with a lot of clutter shit. Also upgraded. Shoots as straight as a playboy magazine.

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>>2757533
>default tacticool M4
>gratuitous envelope presence
>no citrus in the fruit bowl
>foot
Please, stop.

>>2757639

Thanks for actually rating my gatt

Daily reminder:

This community and general has been infiltrated and taken over by Germanbro and his fellow shills and separatists.

Link to the actual discord server: http://www.discord.me/asg

Hide posts and threads by Germanbro and his goons!
Ignore posts and threads by Germanbro and his goons!
Do not reply to posts by Germanbro and his goons!

Fight the occupation, repel the infiltrators, do not fall for the Germanbro ruse!

Let's make /asg/ great again!

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>>2757853
>Discord drama
Dude who cares if two groups of like five autists keep screeching at each other.

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>>2757853
>Let's make /asg/ great again!
Will our heros ever return to crush germanbro? Find out on the next episode of /ASG/!

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>>2757949

>>2757968
I've never been on the discord, am I missing anything?

>>2758017
Autism, circlejerking, and dickwaving, mostly. Like on any *chan Discord, really.

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Just bought my P226, got free 3 day shipping. How'd I do?

>>2757853
>http://www.discord.me/asg

Discord machine broke. need new link.

>>2758036
Can't really go wrong with KJW

>>2758036
You did everything right.

KJW guns are almost on par with TM guns regarding their QC, and are fully compatible to their tuning parts. Also you pay 1/3rd less of the price of a TM and get a decent metal body on top of that.

>>2757853
>baiting tripfag to come out from his closet that hard

Why don't you just say "All hail !uAJcSHIGGY"?

>>2758036
Not bad, always wanted one, but alas have to stick with the P-38 for now.

>>2753702
>Are terrorist inspired loadouts acceptable?

Depends on the terrorist organization, I think. ISIS? Might be in bad taste. Dead Cell? A+++.

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Airsoft is for losers

>>2757533
>Keymod

wew lad

>>2758990
Honestly Benjy.

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Looks like WE are churning out some nice looking new releases.

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>>2759383

>>2758990
You're not wrong

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>>2758990
That's why I'm here

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>>2758990

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>>2758990
Geez, I just like to have fun with my money, without actually killing people.

>>2759775
>Alig
>Skabbar insignia
shiggy diggy

>>2759775
You can do the same thing with nerf or the supperior paintball.

>>2759800
Paintball at this point is even more cancer

>>2759800
Do you know how much a days worth of paintballs cost?

>>2759383
Will WE's incarnation of the Magnumeme Research Desert Eagle be any better than KWC's?

>>2759803
I've seen quite the opposite. If anything paintball has matured quite a bit while airsoft has just turned into dick measuring and autistic screeching about various topics.

>>2759817
That's the only thing airsoft has over paintball. Paintball is better in every regard with the exception of price.

>>2759830
The only magmeme research version that didn't suck was and still is the muhrui aka memerui

>>2759830
>>2759898
I think you'll find it's actually called the 'Desert Memegle'.

>>2759893
Then there's the range and accuracy.

>>2759010

What's wrong with keymod

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>>2759385

>Chrome revolver
>Black cylinder

Daily reminder nót to respond to bait

>>2759992
It's a meme

>>2759893
>That's the only thing airsoft has over paintball. Paintball is better in every regard with the exception of price.
Oh fuck off. Apples and oranges. It's like comparing CoD and ArmA.

>>2759995
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, I can't imagine they would release it to market like that.

>>2759383
>Hey guys shouldn't we fix the issues with our current inventory?
>WHAT? NAH, KEEP MAKING MORE MEME GUNS!
Fucking WE. Knowing them, the Desert Eagle's slide will crack or some shit since it'll be Zamak/zinc alloy instead of aluminum like the Guarder kits and they'll keep making them for five years or more with the defective slide.

>>2759992
Everything. It looks like shit and is a trash mounting system. M-LOK best lok

>>2760169
That's your fault for just wanting to collect all the cool looking bbguns, instead of actually shoot it, use it, know how far it can go. That's why you think they still worth every penny even they are some weak ass piece of shit, and only do good hanging on wall for the look.
But please, do give them money. They need it and you won't miss it.

>>2760182
M-lok also looks like shit though, no mounting system looks nice, prove me wrong faggot.

>>2760417
The burden of proof is not on me comrade, but you.jpg

Are KWC decent?

Looking at their M1911 and P226 models right now and I kinda need a pistol for the weekend.

Other options are some KJW CZ and M9 models.

>>2757639
You forgot about the camera focus being way off.

>>2757519
Wrestlefag here, but can confirm slightly. My brother and all of his friends were huge into Airsoft a few years ago, but he now just collects and shoots regular guns. I do know he and them would go to fields, but they stopped around 2014 I think.

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>>2760573
KWC 1911s are ok, but not Marui compatible, so spare parts are more difficult to source. Their other guns are really hit and miss.

KJW CZs are nice, their M9 is old, but relatively well put together. The new WE M9 is fairly decent, as is their Glock 17, and P226.

But they're all budget, metal guns, so none of them are going to be that good. And QC for all of them isn't great.

Does anyone have a good guide of how to put P90's gearbox back together?
Youtube does not help nor does google really

>>2760589
Im not out for a high quality pistol, just something that will not break on its own or is overpriced for its quality level.

Just a quick backup solution since I recently got back in to airsoft and the aeg I just bought has a safety distance longer than a house, and the field Im going to this weekend has a lot of houses and open containers.

Thanks for the detailed answer, very helpful

>>2760632
>not recording the breakdown process in case you fuck up

Last time I did that was with a non standard pc motherboard with more accessories than a hpa fag, had to manually test which pins lead to card reader and which pins leads to audio. You live and you learn.

Try these steps:
>backtracing your process
>trial and error method
>be creative in your attempted methods for solutions
>explain the problem to a dolly

Or post pics itt for hive brainstorming

>>2760053
>cod vs arma
Exactly. One of them is better than the other.

>>2760586
They couldn't have quit at a better time. That's when airsoft hit the point of no more fun.

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>>2760632
https://youtu.be/inKXNDSt95w
Is this helpful? Seems there are a few guides on version 6 gearboxes.

>>2760417
>M-lok also looks like shit

Nigger I'll take blank, straight lines over half-drawn dicks any day.

>>2759383

I can't stand Deaglefags, "ohmagod mah full auto CO2 gun" "ohmagod i can't find any holsters to fit it".

Urgh.

(also apparently my P226 post earned me a warning... why?)

>>2760839
Yeah, and one actually has fairly realistic gun functions, the other makes their "realistic" guns have massive hoppers on the top or oversized barrels

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>>2750830 So does anybody have any ideas? I was originally going to use a surplus flakvest, but that just doesn't work quite right

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>>2760970
Look into British and other European riot suits. Surplus places like Keepshooting and Sportsman guide always tend to have that kind of stuff in stock.

>>2761012
Oh man, that actually reminds me of the full set of (what the vendor said) German riot gear that was for $100 at a gun show. I was going to get it, but when I came back to buy it, the thing was taken already. It looked a bit like
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-Piece-Tactical-Riot-Suit-Protection-Army-Swat-Law-Enforcement-Combat-Black-/252899449893?hash=item3ae1fb5c25:g:qRQAAOSwkShZAR6a

>>2760967
One has guns that have magazines that hold thousands, and claims it's realistic, while the other knows it's just a game.

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>>2761085
That's a terrible excuse. Even you should know that we have various types of mags that can hold a more realistic and believable amount. Besides, both airsoft and paintball pale in comparison to https://www.streichers.com/shooting/ammunition/training-ammo

>>2758038
Sure thing my dude. The .me links tend to be finicky for some reason. Some people get in just fine, others have trouble.
discord.gg/2kYjy5A

>>2761103
Daily reminder that simunition is less accurate and has less range than airsoft.

>>2761406
I think the idea with simunition is for CQC training

http://www.evike.com/products/30486/
Should I buy?
I think it's a bit overpriced, but I think it's a really great gun.

>>2761688
It's a CQB monster, really. My friend has one, and oh boy, this thing is cool. You're gonna need more mags, though.

>>2761688
See for yourself dude.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsm6DDfaa2M

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Ready to rock and roll

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Don't I look cute?

>>2762230
no you look like an autistic fag
basically a skinny chrischan
off yourself

>>2762228
>>2762230
literally two toothpicks holding up a faggot

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>>2762235
Thanks

>>2762238
>>2762230
>>2762228
See now I know it's not j2 who's posting these
bit creepy honestly

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>>2762228
>>2762230
>>2762238
>Literally stalking someone's FB so you can pretend to be them and garner attention on 4chan.
Holy shit son, what are you doing?

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What's the deal with these new CSI guns?
Are they replicas of some new future COD vidya gun?

>>2762291
it's like a room full of 40 year old executives guessed at what 12 years olds think is cool.

>>2762291
Well the future is rapidly approaching. Gotta get early in the market if you want to be competitive.

>>2762291
It looks just like the guns from my animes.

Honestly, it looks alright. It's basically just an AR with plastic all over it.

>>2762291
If they made the design a bit simpler and removed some of the ugly shit on the design I could see it as a modern rifle designed in the last 5-10 years

>>2762254
YOU CALLING 4CHAN USERS DUMB??!!!!!!1

well, you are here too.

>>2762230
If that's you, keep your hair out of your face.
If you're shooting, then you need to make sure there are no blind spots in your vision.

>>2757949
>>2757968

From what I gathered the whole CIVIL WAR! was started because the trannies could not get along and all the orbiters got behind the trannies.

Then the re-unification attempt was thwarted because the trannies could not get along again as well as a Bernfag admin who refused to give up a sliver of power over the autistic orbiters.

I am glad I got banned, y'all saved me.

>>2762742
I think he knows that

>>2762894
Do people from the discord even post here anymore?

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>>2758036
You did great, man. I don't think I've ever had a major issue with mine, and parts have been really easy to find for cheap so far. I just put a new outer barrel and recoil spring in mine, so here's a glamour shot of it.

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>>2761012
Thanks, now comes the gun. I'm not really wanting to get M240/249 number 5,650. I want something a bit different, something that could make the noise and impact that lets them know that it's no joke. I thought maybe the mg-42 for the ability to twist and grab the bipod as a handle to hold it; maybe a Stoner, RPD or RPK, or explosive of some sort?

>>2763213
M60, man.

>>2762894
Thats not correct. One mod from the original group get removed from mod status and got pissy. Others saw it as a chance to jump ship and took. All the trannies bar one ended up in both servers.

>>2763934
>One mod from the original group get removed from mod status and got pissy
After a fair number of regular posters in the chat complained for quite a while about how unnecessarily strict the moderation was, as well as a lack of transparency from the admins. Then when someone wanted to give the people what they wanted he got called a sociopath.

>>2763955
Eh nothing is perfect black or white but considering how the newer splinter discords mods got uber strict i honestly dont see much of a reason for it. Dofferent atmosphere i suppose but its scared some away lol.

>>2763963
>the newer splinter discords mods got uber strict
u wot m8? Splinter mods literally don't do anything.

>>2764036
I dunno man, did they get rid of the giant wall of rules every new member is bombarded with?

>>2763955
Nah nigga, an undisclosed number of anons complained to one admin: Germanbro (undisclosed because he wouldn't say) about issues with administration. Some of those were just from salty shitposters who got cracked down on for posting shit, others were legitimate complaints about admin process which had constructive solutions. Germanbro then tried to use those complaints to get another admin booted. Germanbro failed and so went behind the other admins' backs to start his own server and invited people over using a bunch of out-of-context PM logs to paint OG administration as evil. Only at this point did Germanbro get his admin powers revoked.

Since then he's tried desperately to give his little cult of personality some legitimacy, like in making threads with his server instead of both, but instead he's had attrition of his original admins and tighter, more restrictive rules and enforcement than was ever on the OG server (from what I've heard). In the OG server, the legitimate complaints brought up were addressed and constructively solved, admin accountability is up, and is the organization point for the /asg/ half of the /k/-/asp/ platoon going to the next Milsim West game. Shit's not perfect, and sometimes mods are a little too timid to stand up to problem posters, but it's not the cancer this stupid drama implies it is.

>>2764211
I miss the skype

>>2763839
All the m60's suck

>>2764458
I bet /qa/ is responsible this.

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>>2764458
reminder

>>2763213
As fun as the Stoner is, the magazine needs to be redesigned. Don't get it.

>>2764065
You mean "Don't spam" and "Don't dox"? And give a timestamp that you actually airshit instead of just sit around to 'cause drama like this kind of shit: >>2762228
>>2762230
>>2762235


>>2764211
>an undisclosed number of anons complained to one admin
If by that you mean "Multiple people posting publicly in main chats about poor administration even when it wasn't directed at them." And considering both servers have the same amount of people, except that Germanbro's is significantly more active on a day to day basis, I don't see any issues of legitimacy.

>>2764723
>posting pics is now drama

>>2764754
>Stalking somebody's facebook and posting pictures of them to impersonate them is not drama

>>2764540
Thanks doc
Also ya seethin

>>2764767
>implying it wasn't them pretending ot be le haxed for attention
you're as pathetic a deluded faggot as they are desu

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>>2757853
Do the world a favor and really just kill yourself.

and take this pos shit thread too, /asg/ shouldn't have existed. Fucking cancer house

>>2764723
Hi Germanbro. :^)

How do green gas nbb pistols fare in cooler (but not frigid) weather?

>>2765046
Much, much, much better.
I use a NBB exclusively for Green Gas, and HPA for blowback ever since I realized using GBB in Poland is a fucking PTSD sentence.

>>2762230
>>2762228
I wonder the sounds he would make if I forcibly fucked him

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Stop responding to mentally ill attention whores

>game is over
>do a celebratory mag dump
>battery dies out after 20 bbs

Today was a good day

>>2765534
>game is over
>do a celebratory mag dump
>target dies out after 200 bbs

rip kid

Fucking stop sharing this fucking Discord link

>Get banned for arguing

Don't share that shit.

>>2753702
>Are terrorist inspired loadouts acceptable?
I suppose so, but only during the reenactment games, where all the players are wearing historical outfits.

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>>2765580
>being this shook

>>2764815
>implying it wasn't them pretending ot be le haxed for attention
lmao I woulnd't be surprised actually

>>2757853
I'm OP, I just copied the thread info from the last thread, I don't even use Discord, so have no dog in this fight.

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>tfw no police-themed games where the criminals must prepare a shipment of drugs/ammo/weapons for distribution and the good guys try to scope their whereabouts while preparing a raid.
>tfw no policesoft games taking place in more than one location where a pair of detectives pursue leads
>tfw no short but sweet SWAT games where a bunch of guys hole up in a house with multiple points of entry
I just want to CC my Dan Wesson and Marui Breacher bruhs

>>2765845
That does sound fly as fuck my friend

>>2765845
Cool, but that's a lot more roleplaying than most players are willing to put in.

It could definitely work as an event though, and pistol only games are fucking awesome.

Also, have you got a hop on your Dan Wesson?

>>2765961
Yep, I've got the 2016 version and I wish I had waited, because those moonclips and 4" versions are more up my alley. I can't really compare no-hop to hop-up, i'd say it's still not very accurate at longer distances, but I barely notice in CQB. Mine has a little issue where I have to press the trigger/pull the hammer rather decisively or else it doesn't fully cycle and all kinds of crazy shit happens.
Probably one of the most fun airsoft guns I have for reloading alone, but for skirmishing, I'd prefer one that takes moonclips.
<350FPS is a good thing, too.

>>2765845
>>2765890
>>2765961
lawsim like a fun alternative to milsim

Somewhat related, I've played CQB as an 80's cop.

>>2766030
You got pics of that?

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>>2765988
I've got pic related, it's a good little Marushin revolver, although it won't take moonclips and its' 5 shots...

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>>2765845
A Miami Vice inspired, cartel vs. cops game would be the dopest thing ever.

>>2766222
Unfortunately, no. They were on my old phone and became inaccessible after I dropped and cracked it.

But it was basically jeans, tucked in red collared shirt, and Beretta M9 with leather galco holster. Think Riggs from the first Lethal Weapon. I even had the hair.

>>2766030
I'm also going to an event with 80's setting. The main conflict is between a cartel, the local maffia and the DEA. So as it was pretty unequivocal that I have to go as a weaponless news reporter.

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>>2766596
I can imagine it was something like this, and if it was, that's really badass

>>2766613
This smells like D14, am I right?

>>2764469
>>2764540

Oh my god they got rid of it. I guess they hate freedom. Free /asp/

Holsters
Soft shell > hard shell

>Companies haven't been coming out with revolvers with 2 cylinders in the box so you can use moonclips or shells

>>2766646
Yes, minus cigarette

>>2767045
You know moonclips hold shells, right?

>>2767120
I'm assuming moonclips in airsoft are those circular clips which hold something like 12 rounds. I haven't seen actual moonclips for shells in airsoft, only speedloaders.

>>2767154
ASG makes some, and I don't see why moon clips wouldn't work since they just hold rimmed cartridges.

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>>2767223
fug

ATACS FG did nothing wrong

>>2765845
I know 90% of the people would likely want to be SWAT/Police but I'd definitely be in for a criminal role with an AK or MP40.

>>2762228
>>2762230
>>2762238
THANK YOU MR. SKELTAL

>>2765450
that pic is related

>>2767419
>he

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Anyone know this name and version of this Scar?ty in advance

>>2767289
I've got a perfect little set of gear made from scraps of my other kits, I would love to be a criminal wearing jeans, a black shirt, and a balaclava

>>2767289
>tfw no Inside Man LARP
Hostage games could be pretty good.

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>>2767759
fuck

>>2763213
MG42, bolshevik.

>>2762228
Holy shit, I never knew the Holocaust was still happening

>>2767859
If it was, then that thing would have been thrown into an oven.

>>2767618
Scar l cqb

I'm currently dealing with depression and am looking for a hobby of sorts, airsoft seems very appealing.
While I mull it over, any tips for a complete beginner?
Perhaps a weapon recommendation?
I'm gonna see what kind of budget i can scrape together soon, so I can't give numbers, but cheap is always welcome.

>>2768486
Don't buy super cheap, you'll regret it. What's your budget?

>>2768492
I just said I don't know yet.

>>2768494
Welp I guess I glossed over that part. I can't recommend you anything until you know how much you can spend

>>2768515
I guess I'll cross that bridge when I get there.
So what's better; gas, co2, or battery?
I'm gonna estimate a budget of around 200 or so bucks, but that's just to get me started.

>>2768629
In wh7ch part of the world do you live? Do you plan to play indoor or outdoors?

>>2768637
Netherlands, I honestly don't know yet.

>>2767289
I want to do something like Terrorist Hunt from Rainbow Six or the original R6: Siege concept before they moved to the terrorists being operators. Police/SWAT against criminals/terrorists is completely underrated

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>>2768486
>weapon recommendation?
Just figure out what kind of gun you like the look of, most AEGs are of a muchness regardless of model.

Generally you want to stay away from gas as your primary, unless your doing a lot of CQB, but even then AEGs are just less of a ballache in general.

Forget 'sniper' rifles, and shotguns too (you can start buying useless shit if you get further into airsoft).

>>2768486
Never cheap out on bbs, boots or eyepro. Price doesn't always guarantee quality though, but the cheapest shit is usually just shit.

Buy E&L, LCT, Lonex or Krytac gun. They are by far the most reliable stock guns in the markets. If you like tinkering with stuff, other options exist too.

>>2769216
G&P and Cyma guns 04X and up are also solid

>>2769257
G&Ps don't have nearly as great internals as the four I mentioned. Their gears are prone to snapping, the hop up is crap and the cylinder assembly isn't great either. Top notch externals though. Cyma is a rattling meme.

>>2769285
t. never owned either and just bases his opinion on memes

>>2768486
Check if there are fields that rent gear around you and play a few matches first and foremost. If you do like it get a Cyma AK and a chicom rig, also midcap magazines. Also a smart charger and lipo batteries (and if you're good at soldering/DIY you can also get a MOSFET so that you can turn your shit into a BB hose).

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>>2769311
I've built, fixed and tuned several G&Ps and Cymas. Pic related is what has happened to all G&P guns that were sent to me.

>>>/toy/

>>2769382
>>>/lgbt/

>>2769382
>Wish to talk about airsoft anonymously
>Go to /k/
>Airshits aren't real guns, go to /toy/
>Proceed to /toy/
>Airsoft guns aren't toys, go to /sp/
>Proceed to /sp/
>Airsoft isn't a sport, go to /k/

>>2769332
CYMA and G&P are decent for the money, and that guy isn't going to get an LCT etc. for 200 dollaridoos.

>>2769401
G&P is great base for a project, but a poor recommendation for a newbie due to it's poor hop up. Cyma is kind of a lottery, like most chink manufacturers. E&L budget line up costs only little more and is vastly better.
The four I mentioned have better value and they actually retain it if you decide to quit and sell your shit. Second hand Cymas are sold for 100€>.

Alright, thanks for the advice so far.
My plan is to gather some funds and get a side-arm first (pistol warrior is the coolest class anyway) and decide on my primary based on whatever the team ill be joining needs.

Although I'd appreciate a suggestion for a pistol, as the luger makes my dick go hard but the small mag makes it not a practical choice for a pistol warrior.

>>2769499
Trust me, your team will need a full auto AEG. A pistol will be a waste of money because you'll be severely outclassed by AEGs and once you have an AEG, you don't really need the pistol. If you don't have the funds, rent or loan. If that's not an option, buy Cyma CM040.

>>2769499
Luger GBB's all will break eventually and gl getting replacement parts for them.

>>2769499
>My plan is to gather some funds and get a side-arm first
That's a really dumb idea, not only it will cost more than an electric rifle, it will also be much less effective. Just get what I reccomended in >>2769320 and rock a tracksuit top, surplus camo pants and shoes that look like Adidas Gazelles if coolness is a dealbreaker.

Shame none of the guns you mentioned are even sold where I'm gonna buy from.
The only cyma product here is an RPK, and I hardly have 300 bucks for just the gun.

There is a local store that has a very small selection, I might be able to get it there.
If not, they have an aug that looks pretty nice and is within my budget.

Buy G&P
use G&G v2 gearbox internals

best of both worlds

>>2769885
>300 for a CYMA RPK
Where are you buying from that's jewing you 50% on an entry LMG?

>>2768644
Get an ICS aeg with the split gear box. I have an upper gear box for outdoor and one for CQB. It's a ten second swap.

The newer ICS guns have the quick change spring feature. It takes a little longer (forty-five seconds?) but you won't need to buy a second gearbox

>>2769885
Buy it online like every sane person does.

>>2772446
This. Buy your guns online and extraneous shit like bbs and food from your field shops to support them.

>>2767753
You are a cool guy in my book

>>2768877
Yeah that would be pretty great, give the terrorists/criminals or what have you enough time to pick their vantage points, and set up and then have the SWAT assault them. I agree, we need more police vs criminal stuff, I toyed with the idea of making a SWAT loadout just for giggles because I built one in the second Rainbow Six Vegas. Got too lazy though, and after a while discovered I'm not big enough on
black guns to take the time to do it.

Speaking of which, I'll call on all you fags to show me pictures of your older weaponry, anything with wood or based on a gun produced pre 1980's. Show me your cool shit.

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Cancer aside, are those masks good for airsoft, CQB specifically? I can't get over how silly mesh masks look. There's absolutely no way to make them look good, unless you get a SteelMouth and accept rest of your face will be unproctected.
I also appreciate the depersonalization aspect they provide, and I think I could make them work with my MSF loadout.

>>2769421
I got a Cyma 040 to kickstart the hobby again and I'm genuinely surprised how well it performs after doing some basic shit on it. The exterior doesn't have rattles or anything, except for the skelligton stock which makes an annoying twang when firing. Barrel quality is shit as expected, but that isn't something that can't be fixed on the cheap if I want to.

>>2775039
>MSF loadout
Medecins sans Frontieres?

>>2775085
I have a 040c, it's served me well for nearly 4 years, the barrel is pretty standard, not bad if kept clean.

If it dies on me, I might get an LCT or E&L, but there's no sign of it giving up the ghost.

>>2775162
Motorcycle Safety Foundation

My aps Uar gearbox broke. I'm so fucking tired of it. Can you guys recommend a good solid rifle that take m4 mags without being a M4 or m16.

>>2775085
>>2775162
Militaires Sans Frontières?

>>2775483
G36 with stanag adapter.

>>2775533
Not really a fan of g36s. How is the l85?

>>2775614
There are several manufacturer who make them. They're all mediocre at best. G&G / Army require a lot of immediate attention. Star / Ares is pain in the ass if you ever encounter a problem with it. ICS might be the least bad, but dunno really.

>>2775720
Even in Airsoft it fails. Sad. I like the look of it. It's ugly and good looking at the same time.
I like bullpup rifles. So how about f2000?

>>2775985
Only G&G worth mentioning, pretty hard to get.
It's good, but it has its issues. Mag compatibility is so-so, you'll probably have to file most of them so they lock in place. Semi-auto is known to stop working eventually. Charging handle, although only a dummy, is rather weak, so don't slap it too often. Also front rail costs like 150USD. It's good, but needs work eventually.

I got an Echo 1 XCR-L from a friend for free, but the magwell is finnicky. You really have to finagle the magazines for them to seat correctly. I wanna swap out the lower reciever, and from a glance it looks like an M4 reciever would fit with little difficulty, but I was wondering if any other anons had more hands on experience.

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Anyone who have or had some experience with the ICS CXP APE?

>>2776482
Pretty much the same as every other ICS gun with split gearbox.

>>2776599
Good or bad? I have no experience with ICS split gearboxes.

>>2776605
Love them. Just make sure the spring tension has been released before separating the upper and lower receivers.

>>2776639

Pretty good overall, decent hopup for stock. Had a compression issue after 6 months but nothing major. If you can check to make sure there are no loose body pins before purchase.

>>2775039
You'd better buy ESS goggles and a wire mask like the one Novritsch uses.

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R8

>>2777050
Nice looking SVD, but the rest? Eh.

>>2777050
blurry and poorly lit/10

We can barely see it you solid gold bellend.

>>2777050
Assault rifles might be the superior choice most of the time, but snipers and pistol outshine them style-wise anyday.

This is a great example of a sexy sniper rifle.
Get some sexier looking attire and start collecting waifus.

>>2775039
If you're making an MSF loadout, make an MSF loadout. Strapping something that looks like it's from Deus Ex onto something that's supposed to look like it's from MGS will look fucking stupid. Get yourself a two hole balaclava, a steelmouth thing and sew it into the balaclava, then some low profile goggles/glasses.

Just because you wear tiger stripe rolled up to your elbows does not make it MSF. Put effort into your costume if you're going to do a costume. Or you know, just play in whatever is comfortable instead of cosplaying.

What's a good setup for someone who runs an lmg as far as kit goes?

>>2763839
Did think of that at one point, especially since I have a buddy who trained with the M60 in the 70's
>>2764370
What is it that makes them bad? Are the parts loose fitting? feeding problems?

>>2767857
You see, I though it would be a cool thing too, but then you remember that will essentially mean I look like a riot officer with a WWII MMG. May not quite bode well with others. If not for that I'd do it all the way

>>2779214
>What is it that makes them bad? Are the parts loose fitting? feeding problems?

Lose the entire front end gets pretty loose, they have feeding issues, the thing the box mag attaches too snaps off easy, the wiring is bad.

>>2779733
That does sound like a lot of the M60's I've seen. Yeah it's not a good choice. Any recommendations?

>>2779820
Tbh, all the lmg's suck. The saw and pkm just suck the least.

>>2779820
Kinda depends on how much you're willing to pay, desu. LCT makes a couple of MGs, but the only one under a grand is the RPD. If you're willing to put down the dosh, there's the LCT M60 which lacks the issues of other guns at the expense of like a grand and a half and the upcoming PKM which is looking to cost about as much. From there stick to higher end brands for support weapons, like Classic Army or G&P. CA would be your cheapest quality option for SAWs.

>>2779733
For the record, this is mostly the case with A&K M60VN. Their M60E3 lacks most of these problems. The wiring is still so-so, though.

>>2779989
M60E4, I mean.

>>2778232
>MSF
>Tiger stripe
Nope. Olive on black. My loadout is only inspired by MSF, it's not cosplay. I also use mostly modern designs, so no rolled shirt, I use a OD combat shirt.
You're right about the Mask, I guess. I'll make one loadout that will work better with something like that one day. Kydex pouches and what not

>>2780308
>My loadout is only inspired by MSF
Then stop calling it an MSF loadout you mong. If it isn't accurate it's just clothes.

>>2780308
Well you did say you were making a "MSF loadout"

>>2776180
If it's tight you could file/sand down the inside

>>2780308
>"MSF loadout"
>doesn't use anything MSF uses

Boy are you retarded.

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>>2781510
>>2780826
>>2780687

>>2781708
>I use a combat shirt
>something about using modern stuff
>considering adding a cancerous robot mask

Anon, just stop

Which MP5K should I look at if I want a quality side arm to complement my regular rifle for CQB situations or if I want to use it as a main on CQB fields?

>>2781771
>using a combat shirt means it can't be inspired by the looks of MSF
just stop posting you retarded fag

>>2781946
>mad someone calls him out on his idiocy
>calls that someone retarded
>continues to be retarded

Nigger you said you were making an MSF loadout. Then changed your mind when I told you you're fucking dumb for saying it's MSF when you're half assing it. Do MSF or call it something else, dummy

>>2781983
(you)

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>>2781983
I said "a MSF loadout" not "THE MSF loadout". As long as it follows the general style, it's a MSF loadout. I tried to be nice and added "inspired by", but you've pushed me you sperg. It's a MSF loadout and I'm ordering a fucking dye mask.
Don't reply to me ever again.

>>2782005
>it's a MSF loadout
>My loadout is only inspired by MSF

>>2779964
To tell the truth, I'm thinking an explosive would be a cool choice since the LMG's in general are plagued with issues. Having a revolving GL or maybe your mentioned RPK is an idea

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>>2783537
I think the thing that gets me the most is that he has all that russian gear and stereotypical russian stuff, but used an ALICE rig and 5.56 cartridge pouch

I hate slavboo airsofters more than I hate anything else about this cancerous hobby.

>>2784158
Okay, and how does that affect us?

>>2784158
What's wrong with them?

I haven't actually seen any at games, but they seem ok here.

>>2784158
What did he mean by this

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Life is good.
>got parts I wanted
>rof is right where I want it
>compression is on point
>m110 spring is still pushing above 400.

Kinda sucks I have to go with a weaker spring for the gun to be field legal, but at least I squeeze out a little more rpm.

>>2785697
A bit greasy don't you think?

>>2786277
My airsoft gear cost more than the car your parents bought you lmao

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>>2785852
Might have to work on that compression a bit. It's lower than expected

>>2786433
With a 7.4 25c btw

>>2785697
Isn't that piston going to be shitting big blobs of grease (molybdenum?) into the hopup chamber?

Is the asg bren good?

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>>2785697
>that piston aoe

>>2786579
It's wasn't all the way forward. I was just making sure it was on the rail.

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>>2786433
>m110
>403 fps
Nice try.

>>2786277
Wew I wish airsoft was cheaper than guns.

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>>2786609

>>2786764
I also get 401-403FPS with an M110 n my M4. Good compression is a thing m8.

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Ok I have a couple of questions since I am interested in getting a GBB pistol

>Is the WE tech Makarov worth money? What about their Luger? I know WE tech are iffy, but are these specific models crap?

>Where do you find ASG CZ75 P-07 GBB mags? I found like 1 place that has them in stock

>>2787793
1. I wouldn't bother with most WE guns, some are really good, but not the ones anyone realistically wants. Also, no one makes a decent makarov right now, I would wait or pester other manufacturers for it.

2. No idea on this one, I just use a classic KJW CZ75...

>>2787804
Yeah I figured as much. I really love using my sidearm and I wanted to make it even better by getting a GBB but my special snowflake gun tastes are making it hard

>>2785697
>>2786433
>>2786449
>that gearbox
>that green stripe
>7.4v lipo
Is this who I think it is? I thought you quit?

>>2786764
>>2787571
Also, not all springs are actually what they say on the tin. I know I've had Guarder and SHS springs that produced much higher fps than their ratings, and it wasn't just good compression.

Are there any news about any new WWII airsoft guns being released?

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I am a happy man

>>2788396
You have a closet full of clothes in same style too?

>>2788406
Those are just my blue jeans

I'm trying to choose between the g36c from H&K, the g36c from JG and the UMP from H&K.

Anyone has any experience with these?
Are they shite?
I'm kind of on a budget here.

>>2788548
Neither of those guns are actually made by the real h&k

>>2788548
I've heard good things about the jg. Think my local field uses them as rentals.

>>2789004
Thanks, it also comes with battery and charger included, just wasn't sure if their stuff was reliable.

>>2789050
The battery and charger will be shit. Get some 7.4 lipos and a simple lipo charger.

>>2788548
Get the JG. The "H&K" ones are made by I believe Ares or some no name Chinese brand and are total shit.
JG G36s have gained a reputation for being absolutely retard proof, and a bunch of fields use them as rentals because of that like >>2789004 said. My local field's old JG G36s took so much shit that their new Elite Force sponsored guns would fall apart at.

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Looking at buying my first airsoft pistol. I'm thinking about a KJ Works KP-01. Apparently you can get magazines that take either green gas or CO2. The CO2 mags don't fit flush with the grip, so I'd prefer green gas mags. Any downsides that I should be aware of? Also, roughly how many shots do you get out of a can of gas?

>>2789735
I'd check out the gas efficiency of the KP-01. If they're anything like their 1911's they use a lot of gas. I love my US issue style 1911 from KJW but the green gas mag it came with holds a most a magazine and a bit. Bought myself a couple CO2 mags to go with it.

>>2790104
That's because the 1911 design doesn't work in airsoft, regardless of manufacturer. The mags can't have a big enough reservoir and they're all incredibly inefficient.

>>2790574
Haha. AEP mustard race!

Co2>Green gas
>>2790104
I own a kjw M1911 and had no trouble with green gas mag. One reservoir was enough for two mags.
>>2790574
Bullshit.

>>2790574
That's what CO2 mags are for.

>>2790574
standard /asg/ bullshit here. come and get some, kids.

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I gonna buy a new rifle. The two I like the most are the ASG CZ 805 and the ICS CXP APE.
What rifle would you choose and why?
The Bren is a bit cheaper, has a mosfet and full rail.
While the ICS is full metal body, split gearbox and compatible with m4 mags from the start. However its a bit more expensive.

>>2785697
jfc dude clean that shit

>>2791935
CXP because ASG is shit

>>2757853
You sound triggered.

>>2759893
>paintball is more mature and less cancerous than airsoft
hahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>2765024
>>2764723
I AM GERMANBRO, STOP STEALING MY NAME YOU FAGGOTS

>>2789735
Memery aside, I would say that the WE P226 is a genuinely good sidearms, worth looking into as an alternative to the KJW, anyway. I've been using one for the last 3 years, and aside from the stock hop, it's an absolute tank.

Hey, this might be a bit unusual, but I recently got an offer to buy a beta spetsnaz AK of unknown make for $60. It seems a bit unusual though, since it doesn't have the regular AKS-74u/Beta Spetsnaz sights, but the rear sights are the normal adjustable AK type sights and it has no stock. I recalled hearing something about Marui making a limited edition Beta Spetnaz in the 1990's with regular AK sights and no stock whatsoever (mentioned on their wikipedia page, here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Marui#Automatic_electric_guns as "AK-47 Spetsnaz (limited edition)"), so I got curious. There's almost no real source on Marui actually ever manufacturing this exact type of gun. Any oldfags care to weigh in on this

tl;dr Did Marui ever make a stockless Beta Spetsnaz AK with regular AK sights (instead of the AKS-74u sights)?

>>2792294
You sound retarded.

>>2791935
ASGs own guns are highly overrated.

>>2793202
http://cittadinodelmondo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/ak-spetsnaz.jpg

>>2793303
Oh cool, so it actually exists. How come there's so little info available on this? Do you have any info on how rare these are?

>>2791498
>One reservoir was enough for two mags.
Which adds to the entire resevoir being enough for a single mag in about any other pistol considering they have twice the capacity, except those ones can usually get 1.5 to 2 mags out of theirs too.

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>>2793324
I'm finding it hard to find info even in japanese websites, from what I little I managed to find it seems to be the precursor to the beta spetsnaz, made in very limited numbers. If it works and it's actually an original Marui alpha spetsnaz I'd buy it in an heartbeat, especially for 60 dolla.

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>>2793202
>>2793303
>>2794526
I just want to chime in and say that other companies like DE have made that model of Spetsnaz AK too. if it's a Marui, it'll say something like "Tokyo Marui Co. ASGK Japan" somewhere on the receiver.

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I want to build an airsoft version of pic related, and have it be spring powered. How big of a spring/cylinder would I need to propel a paintball sized bb?

>>2794835
Where the fuck are you going to get .68 bbs?

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>>2794835
>semi-auto heavy AT rifle
>getting a spring powered version with no advantages over ordinary guns and custom ammo

>>2759893
Former national painball pro here, back when we got on spike tv n shit. Airsoft has come leaps and bounds ahead of paintball.

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>>2786433
Did a better grease job and got a little more rate of fire. I think the spring is settling too.

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>>2795046
I could use reball. If I can't use that, I could always make my own.
>>2795125
>but it's fun
If I build it right I should be able to out-range everything else, so that's something.

>>2795631
>a loss of 4 fps
I hightly doubt that's a sprint settling. That's literally a 1% loss in fps. Nothing to be concerned about.

>>2795698
Not sure where is going to let you use .68 bbs at an fps high enough to travel any distance.

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>>2795747
Gotta take things one step at a time.

>>2795747
It's a game with honor system. All you have to do is trust.

>>2795857
Your Patreon is?

>>2795857
Need cash to spend more time stealing photos?

>>2795851
>>2795857
lentil pls go

>>2795698
>If I build it right I should be able to out-range everything else
>using ordinary airsoft parts
>using A FUCKING SPRING POWER
Dude, you don't even know how to build it or how to use it. And you are unable making custom ammo too.
Once Snow Wolf has released their M82, there was some kind of hype about it. Turned out that this M82 is, in fact, an overweight body with a v.2 Gearbox inside, so lots of them have surfaced at the used guns market.
According to ekike, SW M82 is 7,3 kg without a scope, while the real steel version is around 13,5 kg.
Real steel L-39 is 49,5 kg. How do you plan to carry the similar load?
How would you make a body for it? Out of the real gun?
How do you plan to make an inner barrel? When Izhmash have made it's airsoft AK prototype, they thought that it would be a good idea not to use inner barrel and failed. I doubt that making a Lahti rifle without inner barrel would be a worthy way to spend time.
Do you have the machinery to produce the bbs of the desired shape and weight with consistence? Poorly-made BBs would be bad for the inner barrel and they would fly even worse.
How far do you want to shoot? If some youtubers can hit a target in around 100 meters under perfect conditions. And they have much lighter and simplier rifles.
How do you plan to use the gun? Usual sniper tactics involve active change of the position and with such load as L-39 it would be as difficult as playing a harmonica with your thumbnail.
Do you have any idea, how powerful should be the spring? What if such spring is unavalible at the market?
Do you have the power to pull it?
What about possible traumatism and fieldowners?

tl;dr just get a tuned VSR or an HPA sniper rifle

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>>2796622
>using ordinary airsoft parts
Who said I was gonna do that? If I did the math right, a spring like this should work: http://springs.mrspring.com/item/compression-springs/compression-springs-3/mcw25007-mw
I just gotta make a cylinder and piston for it, followed by everything else.

>>2796735
Okay, what about the body and weight?

>>2796735
>Spring isn't even made with spring steel...
Anon, I may not be a metallurgist, but I don't think that will work out too well...