/asg/ - Airsoft General

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First for P-09

second for wainting your gat to arrive

second for falling for the TM quality meme

second for poorfags can be part of airsofters meme

>>1765233
>defending poorfags
lmao poorfags

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Post your unique guns

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>>1765253
Ok

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>>1765253

>>1765253
I was eyeballing one of those, how are you liking it?

>>1765708
It's nice. Magwell is a bit snug and the pistol grip and foregrip are a bit bulkier than normal. I have smaller hands though so it may work fine for you. The rear sight is very tiny and I'm considering dremeling one of the settings a bit as its pretty much impossible to get a sight picture unless you're in a bright area. The sight picture as is also makes it very hard to properly aim unless you have the stock deployed due to how close you have to be to the rear sight to actually be able to see through it. It's very solid though, definitely not cheap feeling. Mine came with some weird paint job defect on the magwell and the fake bolt was a bit sticky and required a bit of silicon oil to loosen up. Range is pretty decent and consistent with a 200ish or so dollar M4 which I believe the internals are based upon.

>>1765753
Another thing: It takes Mp40 mags which sounds cool at first but most places that have in stock ones are fuckall expensive. I'd even settle for a hicap as honestly fuck paying 20 dollars for a 60 round aeg midcap.

>>1765286
Teh le memekm

It's getting old. It doesn't cause shitstorms anymore. Get lost you skull mask faggot

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>>1765253
Got an M99 and a custom piece of weaponry I made myself

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>>1765253
>>1766355
Made this back in highschool out of the bottom of a sailboat, each of those tallies is a confirmed kill via shield melee since.

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>>1765253
Fish guns need love too.

>>1766375
jesus christ if I ever see an autist with a sheild I'll pay for his admission 5 times over just to have him kicked out for the day

>>1766440
Atleast it isn't one of those 3 lb plastic ones that go for 120 bucks

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>>1766440
Come at me if you want to try, Camp lejeune southfields. Shields are a rare and accepted thing here and this thing has the proper trade offs to be reasonable

>>1766449
Yeah, I know I could have made a clear one but I wanted to go for the "honest to god bullet proof" look. Something that looks like those actual bullet proof shields, complete with limited view to balance

>>1766460
Should've just gotten a slav riot shield

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>Super shitty V2 gearbox spring guide broke
>ordered V3 gearbox spring guide by accident
>Used belt sander to shave the tabs down to fit a V2 gearbox
>Everything works perfectly

Everything went much better than I expected.

>>1766864

Well, except one thing.

I started with a busted parts gun, and the outer barrel was fucked. Got a new cheap all metal one, and after some power tool love, got the hopup to actually fit inside.

The original barrel did not have a dedicated stop for the FSB and forward handguard clip thing. The new barrel does. However, even with the barrel nut/delta ring tightened down as far as it ought to go, the distance from the delta ring to the front handguard clip thing is too long, and the handguards are barely up in there. There's a gap of about 5mm from the end of the handguards to the back of the clip, so they are a bit wobbly and can be pulled apart some.

What should I do about this?

I'm considering just getting a stock that will let me wire it to the back, and then affixing a free float handguard, but that seems like quitter's talk.

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Is the KWC CO2 1911 any good, I want another sidearm that isn't a craptastic piece of shit like my P226.

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>>1766893
They're decent pistols, bur spare parts can be hard to come by, as it's not a TM clone.

If you want a Co2 1911, it might be worth considering KJW's line.

>>1765310
Looks nice desu

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>>1765195
>Which of our tripfags do you guys think are the most based ones
>tripfags
>based
They all suck for the same reason; they're needy attention whores.

They'd rather be at the centre of a shower of shitposts than contribute to the thread in a meaningful way.

>>1765195
all shitposters are unimportant faggots

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>>1765253

Okay

t. Mall Ninja

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>>1767013

I think you're overreading this trip shit.

>>1766893
The KWC is really nice, I prefer it to the KJW.

I've owned both.

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>>1765195
FACTION GROUPS HAVE POSTED. THE CIVIL WAR DRAWS NEARER.

SMUG squad is still representing at Kazakh! If you're on the west coast and can't justify the trip all the way out to Georgia, SMUG will be representing at Kazakh Insurgency in the Civilian faction two weeks later. The Kazakh Insurgency will take place Nov. 4-6 in Victorville, CA at the George AFB, the largest military MOUT training facility in the country and the site of MSW's previous event, The Kazakh Offensive. Insurgency is a new format for MSW which takes on a heavy role play element for the civilian faction, which for the first 24 hours, does not take part in active force-on-force engagements, but rather roleplays a Kazakh Citizen up until the election which will decide the fate of their nation.

If anyone wants to join the Salt Miner's Union Group, join the discord and ask for details!

VOTE IN THE ONLY ELECTION IN NOVEMBER THAT MATTERS! MAKE IT OUT TO KAZAKH!

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>>1765253
Unique only in STRENGTH

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>>1766432
They do

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>>1766989
Thanks

Anyone own a G&P M16A2/A3 and can confirm that the disassembly is done by removing the front pin (see pic) and then pulling the front end forward and the back end backward to separate them. That was what I understood from the videos I've seen but even though I removed the pin and pulled I couldn't separate the pieces. What am I doing wrong?

>>1767505
I have a G&P M4 and I thought every G&P AR broke down the same.

>>1767528
it wouldn't surprise me, however since I didn't get the manual with the gun (I suspect some repackaging issue) I can't be sure

>>1767505
You trying to separate the upper receiver from the lower? There is another pin in the back of the lower receiver

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>>1767605
Pic related? How do I remove it? I don't seem to be able to push it out

>>1767626
show the other side. That is the one you need to push off. Some models and manufacturers make it two piece that is screwed in for added safety

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>>1767639
I've tried to push this in too, even lightly striking it with a small hammer, but it didn't work

>>1767657
It's just tight in. Get a punch for help. Its supposed to come off when you hit it from that side

>>1767657
Hex wrench or screwdrivers with a hammer can be useful in punching that one out.

>>1767668
This works very well. just add put something under it to not scratch up the paint.

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>>1767657
You punch out the front one closest to the hand guard not the rear one. Once it's punched out you slide and wiggle the upper off the rear pin can still be in.

>>1767657
Pretty sure you're supposed to push out the front take down pin, pull back the charging handle, and pull out the upper from the gun.

>>1767505
Make sure that the dust cover isn't open, and sometimes pressing down the bolt release helps the upper and lower coming apart.

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thanks everyone, took some time but I got it now. I had to remove the front pin (the rear pin, while removable is only cosmetic) and wiggle the upper for a while and then pull up.

>>1767912
When you put it back together you may find the same issue in getting it back together. Pull the charging handle back and up so the mech box can sit under it.

>>1767912

Trades were hidden with stickers?

Fuck it, I will gladly fall for the TM Mk23 50m+ range meme. Ordering now, if I ever find this piece of shit anywhere

>>1768146
Its no meme. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5Zjr-ly1ak

>>1765195
>Thread topic: Which of our tripfags do you guys think are the most based ones?
wow, that is some sad shit OP

>>1767912
>>1768127
Can they be removed? If so why have they been left on?

I assumed they were just on there to get past customs inspection searching for copyright infringement.

>>1768127
>>1768466
I haven't taken them off for some reason, I don't even know if they are stickers

>>1768185
Okay, I guess it's time to move up another notch in BB weight too. My main gun is shooting 400FPS at 0.20g, I've been using 0.25g but the hop I'm putting on it has to be minimal, should I go ahead and order 0,28 or even 0,30 from now on? Would be nice to have one set for the sidearm too, is 0,28 or 0,30 too heavy for TM Mk23? It's shooting around 330 FPS, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuxhvYt-2NU

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>>1768526
I wasn't expecting anything at all due to the thumbnail and I was heavily dissapointed

>>1765195
>Thread topic: Which of our tripfags do you guys think are the most based ones?
the dead ones

>>1768559
/asg/ has tripfags?

>>1768518
I've used 30s on my mk23 before and performs well. I mostly use 23 or 25 though.

>>1768571
Like, two. Who gives a damn anyways.

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>Doing a milsim event soon
>Planning Kit loadout
>deciding between 1kg of Rice Crispies or 1kg of beef jerky to bring
I might just bring 1kg of Rice crispies if they're lighter. I really don't want to lug a lot of weight during this event

>>1768760
>1kg of rice crispies lighter than 1kg of jerky
You fucking wot m8

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>>1768760
>1kg of Rice Crispies or 1kg of beef jerky
If this is a 48 or 72 hour op, neither of those will sustain you.

>>1768760
If that is your choise of nourishment for the game and it is longer than 12h. I doubt your kit, or you are prepared correctly

>>1768760
If you're worried about weight MemeREs are a good choice of calories and nutrition per kg

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>>1768760
>Not carrying 1kg of Cotton Candy because it's the lightest type of food

>>1768760
>>1768763
>>1768795
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuOzZ7dnPNU

>>1768985
This most definetely is bait, BUT the chance of it not being bait really scares me.

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>>1768985
Crisped rice isn't what you think it is. It's mostly air and doesn't carry much at all in terms of nutrients.
Jerky, while high in protein and being a good source of energy (and I believe iron too), doesn't actually have much else and you'd be constipated by the first night. Not to mention jerky is pretty damn expensive and you could be buying MREs instead.

>>1768998
or if MRE is too HIGH LEVEL, he could be buying tuna and other canned shit that can be heated straight in the can or in a pack.

>>1768990
It's bait. Just report and hide.

>>1769010
If you stand watch the whole time then yes. if you actually move around and do shit then they wont. Theres a reason why soldiers get 4000kcal a day in long excersises

>>1769020
>>1769020
They can sustain you and you are a fatfuck for even implying otherwise.
I'm not saying that you will be full of energy or that it is desirable, I'm saying that they can sustain you which definitely will even if you are doing more than just stand watch.
No wonder you all faggots are out of breath by the end of a sprint when you are carrying 20lbs of food with you at any time.

Lmao at all these saltyfats reporting me for pointing out the can't survive in a milsim without a backpack full of food.
>if I report him I'm right!
Stay in denial fatasses

>>1769056
You're trying to argue such a small and meaningless distinction for no reason other than to feel right to yourself and your """argument""" is just trying to call people fat which is pretty bog standard b8, so enjoy your (You)s I guess, just missing the tripcode

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>>1769020
>>1769074
WHY ARE YOU STILL REPLYING TO HIM?

>>1769074
>"y-you are only arguing this distinction that makes all the difference"
Spoken like a true fatfuck in denial. Keep up the good work.

>Eating less than 2500 cal a day when being heavily active and consuming little to no protein
I seriously hope

>order from 365airsoft doesn't arrive
>send email
>"We will look into it and reply back to you"
>not a single word since
On the bright side I'll learn how to get paypal refunds. I guess.

>>1769127
>milsim
>heavy activity
Wut

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>>1769132
Seriously Tactical did the same thing to multiple people here.

Except they didn't even respond.

>>1768771
no, no they're not

>>1769140
i guess they take their stuff seriously huh

>>1765195
I will never understand the combination of 2hu and guns.

>>1769715
Military otaku plus incredibly well known and popular franchise in the Japanese nerd community. Makes content easier to digest, easier to promote, and opens up new interpretations of characters already interpreted to death. And that doesn't even get into the whole girl and gun theme.

>>1765195
Looking for the best P90 replica, which one is the best?

GBB is preferred, but after looking at WE Tech's, it is kinda shitty and has no aftermarket, but I could modify it to use HPA, which is a plus.

Other than that, what else is there? Is Tokyo Marui still the best?

>>1770481
Cyma is decent from what I've heard. King Arms and G&G are also good.

>taking anything but water for a """"MilSim""""" that lasts shorter than 24 hours
Okay, get some protein bars and maybe chocolate or energy drinks instead of water if you're a faggot, but seriously. Can't you survive half a day without stuffing your face?
>those normie family men that bring a whole stack of sandwiches and shit for a 4 hour skirmish and absolutely NEED a lunch break in the middle of the game
Fucking fatasses.

>>1770731
Also
>Work on vessels
>Get called for mooring in the middle of the night, normal stuff
>20 minute break before we approach the berth after the lock
>Everyone takes a giant midnight stack which is easily 1000kcal with all the carbs and shit
>they still eat breakfast later like it was nothing
Do normies literally live to eat?

>>1769127
One day of skipping meals won't kill you, you're gonna binge after you get back anyway.
Or even before that, because every airshitter just loves to drive-through at MacDonald's wearing all that expensive chinkshit.

>>1770738
>tfw you realize you hate everyone at your local community while shopping more airshit
it's like a curse.

Talk me out of buying this new Umarex 6mm CO2 Colt Single Action Army.

>>1770711
Thank you, but what's the BEST, though?

I just want to buy it once, and I'll upgrade it later, if needed.

I'll definitely buy another if it's cheap enough, though.

>>1770767
From what I've read some time ago, when I wasn't sure if I want one - Tokyo Marui, but it was hard to find here, so everyone just said to get a G&G because it's also good.
>>1770754
130 dollarydoos plus shipping costs for the version without markings (don't really care about those), for those forest/winter games I barely use a sidearm it should be pretty neato, I can also spin it and meow with it like a tard. Is the mechanism designed for fanning?

>>1770731
>Bringing some kind of food in order to keep blood sugar levels up during the game = fatass
wew lad

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>>1765253

>>1767177
Literally laughed out loud. But really, I do appreciate what you've done with your gun, except the light because even though it is utilitarian, the way it is mounted looks weird to me. I think wrapping the stock was a nice touch to complement your Cirno. You just keep doing you.

>>1766453
Dude, if you use a Skorpion with that shield then you are my bro.

>>1770908
Anyone who isn't an unhealthy motherfucker should be okay with little to no caloric intake of any kind in 24 hours (and even more) even if you are doing mild cardiovascular exercise.

>>1770963
>REEE YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO EAT BECAUSEI THINK IT IS CHILDISH AND TRYHARD

Retard

Wolka Kosowska, Poland 09/17/2016 12:02 A.M. Departure Scan

REEE, WORK FASTER

>>1770963
Just because you can doesn't mean you should. If you're trying to act like a badass and think you're impressing anyone then I have news for you.
>B-but I read this book where those navy seal guys went 60 hours without food and had 3 bottles of water amongst them fighting off 10 bajillion Taliban!
I'm willing to bet you don't have the training of special forces operatives. While you're there feeling a bit lightheaded and tired everyone else who had some kind of decent nourishment will be running circles around you. Eating nothing + 24 hours of mild to heavy exercise = low blood sugar. Low blood sugar while not life threatening to nondiabetics can prove to work against you a lot. Carbs are the best method as just taking in sugars causes your blood sugar to rise and then crash hard. What you're suggesting such as chocolate, energy drinks and even some sugary protein bars is a garbage way to keep your blood sugar levels up.

>>1770968
Calm down. I just pointed out how things are, you are free to carry and eat how much food as you want.
And if anything is more childish and tryhard to not carry food.

Holy shit you faggots are triggered over nothing.

>>1770987
>what you are suggesting
I didn't suggest anything though.

>>1770990
>And if anything is more childish and tryhard to not carry food.
Congratulations, you played yourself.

>>1771000
>you played yourself
I fail to see how. I just pointed out that a person doesn't need food to survive for 24 hours.
Whatever floats your boat, man.

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>>1771006
>Insulting people who bring food
>Insulting people who don't bring food

>>1770987
>Carbs are the best method as just taking in sugars
Sugars ARE carbs.
What you refer to are complex carbs.

>>1771009
>saying that healthy people need no food for 24 is insulting
I didn't know you people were so thinskinned.

>>1771014
>Can't you survive half a day without stuffing your face?
>Fucking fatasses.

>>1770954
Then welcome bro. It's an original Tokyo Marui that one of the marines at my field got while on deployment in Japan. Got it in a trade

>>1771018
>Implying I said that
You are either bullshitting or mistaking me for someone else.

>>1766482
The thing is those are a bit small. I wanted to make a shield that almost functions as a mobile wall, so I made this thing; a 4.5 foot tall by 2.5 foot shield

>>1765195
Newfag here, have q..
is it possible to load glasslike ammo or any type of dangerous shells on this wpns?
also
tracers exists?

TM 57.
Yay or Nay? I want a reliable 57 but everyone seems to agree on the pispoor quality of the Marushin one. At the same time I don't want the TM one to blow up on my face for using greegas/propane/regulated co2/HPA

>>1771043
metal bbs exist but can break down your hop up unit over time. At a high enough FPS you could potentially use an airsoft gun with metal bbs as a small varmint gun. Also tracer rounds exist but require a lighting attachment that looks like a silencer.

>>1771048
thanx anon.. supressors really work? i mean, not the tracers one, a real supressor

>>1771043
There are glass bbs.
And there are tracer bbs too (they require an attachment to 'light them up')

>>1771052
Gas guns could benefit from a tracer but the loudest part on AEGs are the gearboxes themselves.

>>1771059
so there's no way to supress that wacky sound? :(

>>1771063
shimming your gearbox and padding the plunger is the best bet

>>1771052
They do work 'to some extent'.
What a suppressor doesn't help with is the GBB sound, AEG gearbox noise, etc but suppressors inarguably reduce muzzle noise. This reduction is most notably on NBB replicas like the MK23.

>>1771006
So, you'd rather feel hungry for 12 hours instead of packing one hot meal and dry food?

>>1771045
TM is good. you can upgrade it to withstand higher pressures. Regular greengas works okay on it, maybe wears bit faster

>>1771059
>>1771068
>>1771070
SO, if I want to aquire a rifle.. whats the best bet?
I'm looking for highest range, lowest sound possible and the possibility to switch btween non-live and mildly dangerous bbs.

>>1771063
good shimming, quality motor and sorbo to pad the piston makes the sound less like a sewing machine. Depending on the gun you can also put sound dampening sheets used in speakers to make it even more silent

>>1771077
>this shit again
I rather have food than not. I only said that a person doesn't need to eat something to survive for 24 hours because some people here apparently believe that's the case.

>>1771081
Rifle as in a bolt-action?
If yes then
>get one a VSR10 or any of its clones.
>get a SDIK or BOLT
>get a suppressor with baffles or make the baffles yourself
>get a better hopup chamber and r-hop

>>1771104
>>1771084
very much appreciated anons

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What airsoft gun would you recommend for a big guy?

>>1771182
Support gun, so you never have to run.

>It's a fatass justifies bringing a case of Snickers to a skirmish episode

>he doesn't being a tactical cheeseburger to every game

>>1771264
>he justifies not taking a shower for one month as being a tactical cheeseburger

>>1771264
Dibs on "Tactical Cheeseburger" as a band name.

>>1771270
Only if you're essentially babymetal covering sabaton.

>Not taking a bottle of painkillers to a MilSim
Do you even cluster headache?

>>1771272
I was thinking more of The Cars meets Weezer.

So the H-nub in my gun is frustrating me because it seems like the bbs curve way too up or the nub isn't putting backspin at all on the bb based on adjustment. Is there potentially some issue with my setup such as the bucking I'm using or should I just pony up for a flat nub and bucking set?

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I want to personalize my gun without going full retard, small things that add flavor without ruining looks.


I've considered buying pic related, but in yellow, as they look pretty cool.

I've also considered buying small american flag stickers, and putting one on the magwell.

How do you personalize your guns, /asg/?

>>1768559
all of them are shit

including the avatarfags that autistically post themselves in their kit constantly, even if they don't use names.


they basically never post anyways, and that's the way it should be.

>>1771351
>Putting stickers on your guns
Unless you're going for a racegun look and match your entire guns looks to that it will be aesthetically displeasing

>>1771367
>a single small american flag on the cheekweld of a stock is aesthetically displeasing


It can't be that bad, anon..

>>1771363
Where's flecktrap lately anyway?

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>>1771182
I heard those krytec are breddy gud

>>1771389
We don't mention that name here
Even /lgbt/ hates him

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>>1767626
>>1767657
>>1767912
>that plastic looking receiver
Is it a TM M16A2?

>>1771389
Hopefully 2 feet under dirt after choking on a dick.

>>1771389
who?

>>1771398
G&P M16A3. It is in fact metal but with a thick layer of paint on it

>>1771363
Who do you think has been the worst avatar or tripfag in the past few months?

I live in the city - nearest field is an hour away. Where can one go to sight in one's airshit within a city?
This is in Burgerstan so I feel like I would be rediculed at a closer indoor or outdoor firing range...
Anyone have experience as such?

>>1771506
Go to your field an hour early and do it there?

What's everyone's opinion on paint jobs/ camos and shit like that

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>>1771535
Dislike them.

I just cannot physically get myself to like camo-d guns unless it's like a spray painted desert camo on specific weapons.

I do like me some plain colors when done correctly.

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I just said fuck it with my old g3

>>1771288
>he doesn't know how to install r-hops

haven't used anything else for over 5 years. every other bucking/hopup configuration is below it.

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>>1771621
7/10

Needs to go either two ways


Make the stock and handgaurd completely yellow, no black spots


Or make the black spots more defined and make it look like yellow cheeta skin or something


There is lots of potential but it needs to be acted upon

>>1771638
My nigga.

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>test firing new APS Patriot
>mag isn't feeding on semi
>try burst in full-auto
>3 rounds in, CLUNK
>blowback bolt locked back, forward assist does nothing, charging handle does nothing

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>>1771653
>open it up
>piston ALL the way back
>entire system seized

Is there ANY way to fix this without opening the whole fucking thing up?

>>1771653
>APS
You deserve all that shit

>>1771657
Nope. At the very least you'll be needing to take the gearbox out and dick with the ar latch.

>>1771660
What would that entail?

>>1771653
>APS
I don't know what you were expecting. As for fixing it, yeah shit's fugged so you're going to have to open it up.

>>1771668
IF that's the issue, then taking the gearbox out and sticking something up the motor hole to lift the latch.

But that's just one possibility.

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>>1771657
>>1771653
>APS

Nigga even WE GBBPs are better

>>1771653
>foward assist
>does nothing

no fucking shit you fucking idiot what did you expect?

it's airsoft you retard they do not work like real guns

it's probably why you bought a APS isn't it, how new are you?

>>1771653
Have you tried hitting the bolt release instead of the forward assist? This isn't Counter Strike.

>>1771669
So aps is trash? is krytec that was mentioned earlier a lot better?

>>1771724
Just get something that you like aesthetically and upgrade the fuck out of it.
Don't fall for the "brand is good" meme.

>>1771736
>Just get something that you like aesthetically and upgrade the fuck out of it.
Why not start with a known to be solid platform?

>>1771736
>upgrade the fuck out of it.
I personally like to buy once and be done with it not having to upgrade

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>>1771736
>.t poorfag who can't afford good brands

yeah, your new speed trigger, and g&g green is SO much better

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>>1771389
Been busy getting my life back on track
>>1771394
Hate is a strong word
>>1771399
I triiiiieeeeeeeeeeddddddddd to choke on a dick but it was too small ;_;
>>1771406
I like you
I'm not sure if I should post butt for maximum (You)s or my TAD hoodie for memes so I'll just use an anime girl and call it a day.

>>1771753
>>1771756
>>1771773
>>1771753
>paying 400 bucks for hearsay quality and performance
I bet you think TM is hot shit too lmao.

>>1771756
>I personally like subpar performance
W-why?

>>1771794
>I bought a 250 dollarsshitty gun and had to spend 100 dollars to make it work like a 300 dollar gun out of the box works

>>1771773
>my literal chink internals in my japanese replica folded a thousand times is better than everything else somehow
O i am laffin

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>>1771794
>Instead of buying a good gun i like buying a shit gun and basically paying just as much or more to make to make it a good gun

You either don't airsoft or you're legitimately retarded.


Either way, you're embarrassing yourself and you need to stop.

>>1771803
>he doesn't understand the concept that some airsoft guns are objectively superior than others

>>1771800
>mfw outgunning everyone in literally every relevant way with a cyma 515
>mfw the internals can be easily switched between compatible replicas so every one of my replicas is internally better than your overpriced shit
>mfw I have no face
250$ you say?
Buying shit replicas just to hear people doubting its properties only to irremediably get fucked by it is a hobby of mine, actually.

>>1771806
>he thinks you need to pay 300 bucks to make a stock gun better than another stock gun
Lmao at all these fags in denial trying to justify their bad decisions

>>1771810
>he thinks a stock replica from the Apple of airsoft is better than a specifically upgraded replica from any other brand
lmao maruidrones

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>>1768760

Well, screws are loctited in, entire thing it seized, and my girlfriend got it off evike, so I'm completely fucked there.

Whoever warned me to not get an APS on Discord, I'm sorry for doubting you.

>>1771845
>implying it doesn't apply to literally every """"""""""""good brand"""""""""""
>implying you didn't quote a post whith no specific brand
>implying plastic externals mean shit performance wise
>implying you understood shit if you think I'm talking about mid-tier externals
>implying what replicas I have matters
You clearly lack reading comprehension.

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>>1771829 #
>>1771833 #
>implying i ever mentioned tokyo marui
>implying you're not obviously just angry because you don't have one
>implying your subpar gun with plastic externals and mid teir parts is """""""good""""""""

kek

post your gun, faggot, i want to laugh even harder at your butthurt poorfaggotry

>>1771865
>still not posting it
poofagging in denial, are we?


anyways, you said" i bet you think tm is hot shit ", then i promptly ignored it and argued agaisnt everything else you said

when did the subject ever become about TM guns without you mentioning it

never? exactly, you projecting poofag. keep shitting on guns you can't afford while praising your shitty plastic gun

also when did i mention plastic making internals shit

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>>1771773
Nice to see someone using the picture from my field

>>1771879
>i mention plastic making internals shit
The moment you mentioned the plastic externals since I never talk about anything but weapon performance. You were grasping so hard at your "shitty gat" argument that you actually started discussing something that I never talked about.
>still asking for my gat when I literally said I love using shitty guns upgraded to hell and back
I see what you are trying to achieve here but it's pointless when I literally admitted I use shit guns.
The first that came to mind is a Cyma 515. Look at it, laugh at it and then get depressed knowing that it shits on your [brand name of choice] because it has upgraded internals and it still was cheaper than whatever shit you carry to the field.

>people buying APS anything
>people buying blowback aeg's that are not Marui
>people STILL buy Super-X9
>people buying "snipers" for their first guns
>people buying WE GBBRS

>people actually arguing that a upgraded and tweaked replica is worse than a stock of any brand
This place is worse than Reddit at this point.

>>1771657
Looks like a silver edge gearbox. There should be a small hole near where the anti-reversal latch is on the selector plate side for you to stick something thin in there to disengage the latch. You'll need to take the gearbox out, but you won't have to open it up. Thankfully, those gearboxes are quick-change as well, so if you do want to open it up to look for damage or anything it should be easy.

>>1771904
You only need to remove the motor and pistol grip if the gearbox has the hole for ARL. But if the piston gets stuck like that then there is definetely something wrong in the gearbox.

>>1771900
the WE M4 SOL and the WE Scar L ain't that bad

>>1771908
It's usually because something is preventing the gearbox from moving forward enough for the spur gear to disengage the piston, and the ARL is preventing the gearbox from moving back. The spring tension alone should be enough to reverse the cycle on the gearbox. Then he should open it up to inspect any damage.

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>>1771901
>>1771891
>The moment you mentioned the plastic externals since I never talk about anything but weapon performance.You were grasping so hard at your "shitty gat" argument that you actually started discussing something that I never talked about.


Because you totally didn't do this, by mentioning TM, right?

Also, I mentioned plastic externals as to mock you for buying admittedly bad guns, which are usually known for cheap metal or plastic externals. Not for the assumption that your gun does have them.

And you were mocking me for bad reading comprehension?

>I see what you are trying to achieve here but it's pointless when I literally admitted I use shit guns.
The first that came to mind is a Cyma 515. Look at it, laugh at it and then get depressed knowing that it shits on your [brand name of choice] because it has upgraded internals and it still was cheaper than whatever shit you carry to the field.

So let me get this straight.

Your gun, is automatically cheaper, and better, than every gun i bring to the field, because you " upgraded it " with a list of parts you still haven't listed?

And you still won't even prove you even having the upgrades you're bragging about making you better than everyone on the field, nor even having it at all?

All i see right now, is a anon trying to act smug by saying his upgraded well gun is better than everyone else's, while shitting on expensive companies, without any actual proof he even has any the shit he has.

Without trying to be mean at all, you genuinely honestly look like someone who is just angry he can't afford expensive guns.

All i ask, is for you to actually prove anything you're saying is legitimate, because you, without trying to be mean at all, you genuinely honestly look like someone who is just angry he can't afford expensive guns, so to feel better about himself he makes up bullshit scenarios to act smug and shit talk anyone who has the stuff he can't have.

>>1771914
>Because you totally didn't do this, by mentioning TM, right?
Backpedaling much? What I did has nothing to do with absolutely baseless statement about externals.
At least naming a brand made sense in the context of the conversation.

>Your gun, is automatically cheaper, and better, than every gun i bring to the field, because you " upgraded it " with a list of parts you still haven't listed?
Yes, and I'm also seeing what you are trying to do know to save face after I shamelessly named probably the shittiest replica I have while you expected me not to.
I'm not going to make a list of every internal and mod I have so go ahead and start with 'lmao he can't be hassled to fulfill my alienating request so I'm magically right' behavior
>And you still won't even prove
Ohboi. That """""argument""""" is a double edge blade. You didn't prove the OBJECTIVE superior quality of [brand of choice] :^) either. Nor that you own any [brand]replica.

>All i see right now, is a anon trying to act smug by saying his upgraded well gun is better than everyone else's
Thus proving that you can't read. I'm indeed admittely smug but I never said my replica is the best. Only better than stock guns from rather expensive companies.

>you look like someone who is just angry he can't afford expensive guns
You gotta check your eyes then cause I'm not pissed nor I can't afford expensive replicas.

If anyone is pissed that be you considering how easily triggered you were by saying that someone could look for aesthetically pleasing gat and upgrade it rather than get a expensive one or saying that a upgraded replica shits on stocks.

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>>1771944
Please post this a third time you fucking busta.

>not posting $300 of internal upgrades means internal upgrades don't increase a replica's performance
I knew aftermarket support was a scam all along.

>>1771954
S-source?

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>so self-absorbed in your retardedness and wrong argument that you believe anyone disagreeing with you is the same person
>inb4 half assed and nervous explanation of why you quoted that guy without actually believing he's me
>inb4 lmao phoneposter due to literally nothing else worth saying

>>1771900
>not buying WE SCAR L
>not wanting the best daytona

>>1771989
Moretta you incompetent fuck.
>>1771948
Tm is pretty guuchi m8

>>1772009
I swear to god if you keep doing this I will fuck you in the ass

>>1771954
I fix my mistakes. You got me...?

>>1771948
>Backpedaling much? What I did has nothing to do with absolutely baseless statement about externals.
At least naming a brand made sense in the context of the conversation

Half of that isnt valid anymore and the other half is wrong.

No, it didn't.

In this post here >>1771794

Mentioning a brand name was not used as any kind of arguement point, but as a insult. It was completley unwarrented.

>Yes, and I'm also seeing what you are trying to do know to save face after I shamelessly named probably the shittiest replica I have while you expected me not to.
I'm not going to make a list of every internal and mod I have so go ahead and start with 'lmao he can't be hassled to fulfill my alienating request so I'm magically right' behavior

Quoting the truth doesn't make it invalid.

if you cannot prove to me that you actually even own the shit you're bragging about to even make the existence of the scenarios of " PWNZING THA NOOBLORDS WHO BUY THE EXPENSIV!!! ", then your whole arguement is bullshit.

Your clear refusal of proving the argument, that you have taken the time to make, obviously ruins the legitimacy of it.

Once again, if you cannot give a simple list of what you have put into it, than compare it to a TM AEG, than your whole argument is void. It's simple.

>.Thus proving that you can't read. I'm indeed admittely smug but I never said my replica is the best. Only better than stock guns from rather expensive companies.

So what do you think your gun is worse against, then?

>You gotta check your eyes then cause I'm not pissed nor I can't afford expensive replicas.
If anyone is pissed that be you considering how easily triggered you were by saying that someone could look for aesthetically pleasing gat and upgrade it rather than get a expensive one or saying that a upgraded replica shits on stocks

Because this whole argument didn't spawn from you doing the same, right?

>>1772009
Also, i never called samefag, you just got self conscious and assumed i called you that.

I put you in because your post applies to the argument.

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I don't know what you two are arguing about anymore. All I know is that it's probably retarded.

Can the airsoft galils use AK mags?

>>1772056
The ICS ones can, which is useful for putting a drum mag on the ARM as a support weapon. The CYMA requires small modifications, but you can also import midcaps for the CYMA. Don't even bother with the King Arms.

>>1772063
Okay, my buddy is planning to get an ICS galil for an eastern german kit, which honestly makes no sense to me

>>1772050
The argument is that buying shitty guns, the Well 515 in this case, ( which actually does have plastic externals ) than upgrading it, would be a better, cheaper alternative that just buying a solid gun.

He tries to back this up, by saying he " outpreforms " everyone else's more expensive guns at the field, with his, while refusing to even prove he actually did upgrade it ( let alone below the price of a TM AEG ), or even owning one at all.

My argument, is that no, it is not, as it will either under preform or preform just as well as something as good as TM, if the bottom line price is cheaper than one.

He still hasn't actually said anything against my argument, but rather call it retarded and telling me i can't read.

Yes, in most circumstances, upgrading bad low quality guns will outpreform expensive guns, but NOT under the prices of them.

Everyone else apparentley takes that point as

>LOL XD HE SAYD UPGRAYDED GUNS RNT BETTER DEN EXPENSIV ONES111!!

>>1772027
>if you cannot prove to me that you actually even own the shit you're bragging about to even make the existence of the scenarios of " PWNZING THA NOOBLORDS WHO BUY THE EXPENSIV!!! ", then your whole arguement is bullshit.
You see, this is why I know you have shit to say at this point.
First and foremost I played the "prove it" card against you the same way you did with me. You have made the same claims as I have but opposite to main. And you have not provided any proof of you owning ANYTHING at all.
You also conveniently believed I own a shit gun without proof because it suited your narrative, but not anything else because that's not benefitial to you, huh.
Honestly I would go as far as to post a list of things but I know your type. You'll go full denial and act like it's just a list that I made up. That's why I very rarely fall for alienating requests. It's a win-win tool used by retards desperate to stay in the argument.

>So what do you think your gun is worse against, then?
Replicas with better internals, obviously. Have been reading this thread at all?
>Because this whole argument didn't spawn from you doing the same, right?
It clearly didn't. I only said that someone should get a cheap replica and upgrade it and then you jumped all salty about it.
You are, with no doubt, the one that got triggered.

>>1772032
Aaaand jackpot.
>I totally didn't quote this guy agreeing with you because I thought both you and him were the same person
At least I'm having a good laugh until I leave.

>>1772078
>well 515
Cyma
you can't read for shit so why are you getting involved in conversations?

>>1772074
Tell your friend that he's retarded and that he should get a CM.048 so he can convert it to an MPi-KM.

>>1772103
>cherrypicking this hard

i fucked a name up, you got me

what are you trying to do here?

>>1772078
>The argument is that buying shitty guns, the Well 515 in this case, ( which actually does have plastic externals ) than upgrading it, would be a better, cheaper alternative that just buying a solid gun.
The argument is that a shitty replica upgraded will outperform any stock replica no matter what brand.

>My argument, is that no, it is not, as it will either under preform or preform just as well as something as good as TM, if the bottom line price is cheaper than one.
In reality your argument so far has been "prove you have better internals" and passively saying that upgraded shit replicas don't perform better thsn stock ones.
Your argument is basically a non-argument as of right now.

>>1772119
>>1772119
Proving that you can't read, you don't comprehend what you read and/or that you are so focused in your bullshit to the point that you can't keep up with the conversation.

>>1772119
>cherrypicking
Stop using words you don't know the meaning of.

>>1772117
He gave me a thumbs up and said to tell you he's still getting a galil

>>1772126
>The argument is that a shitty replica upgraded will outperform any stock replica no matter what brand

that is blatantly wrong, in both deparments

>>1771794

is clearly is mentioning price

>>1771800

mentions price and
>>>1771794

argues against it

then i argued against what he said, with the point of that upgrading cheaper guns will just make them once again, underpreform or preform just as well as expensive ones, as said here
>>1772027
>>1772133

completley unrelated to the actual discussion, if you want to go cry about me mixing one name up than you can go do it to your mom or something, i don't care.

>>1772138

You argued against none of my points, so you cherry picked a mistake and tried to make something out of it. How am i wrong?

>>1772074
If your buddy is willing to put that kind of money into an AEG, he should just get an LCT MG-MS or an G-03 or 04. Those are based on East German rifles

>Happen to find myself on reddit looking for info about the Umarex SAA
>Spammed with MGS quotes EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME
Are those people literally braindead?
YES, IT'S THE GUN FROM THE GAME, NOW CAN YOU TALK ABOUT IT RATHER THAN COPYING QUOTES FROM A WIKI?
Fucking hell this place.

>You see, this is why I know you have shit to say at this point first and foremost I played the "prove it" card against you the same way you did with me. You have made the same claims as I have but opposite to main. And you have not provided any proof of you owning ANYTHING at all.

First of all, i asked you to prove your argument by adding a list of upgrade parts, to see if it would be superior and cheaper than a expensive rifle, such as TM.

Than, i asked you to take a picture of it, to see if you actually even had the shit you're bragging about, and to see if the scenarios your saying aren't just out of your ass to justify being poor.

You providing proof is the tipping point of you and me being right or wrong, me proving i have airsoft guns does nothing at all.
>It clearly didn't. I only said that someone should get a cheap replica and upgrade it and then you jumped all salty about it.
You are, with no doubt, the one that got triggered

I argued against it, because it's just more work for similar or worse results. What, is suddenly having discussions " triggered " now?

>Aaaand jackpot.
I totally didn't quote this guy agreeing with you because I thought both you and him were the same person
At least I'm having a good laugh until I leave

It's the truth. If you wan't to tell yourself otherwise to laugh, than be my guest.

>>1772165
Did you tell them to stop?

If so, what happened?

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>>1772169
I don't intend to make an account but I imagine I'd be downvoted and meme'd on.

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>>1772165
Are you...


Pretty good?

>>1772179
This shit right there shows everything wrong with MGS5.
Fucking Kojimbo spent money on big name actors, eyewear and sony walkman placement, but couldn't be bothered to give Ocelot his fucking trademark revolvers, or even something that resembled them?

>>1772165
>goes to leddit
>surprised that there is no actual discussion and only circlejerks and memes

eric, simply eric

>>1772182
The guns were strangereal because every part had to fit in different gun.

>every gun you are interested in only have reviews in Dutch

fuck.

>>1772152
>that is blatantly wrong, in both deparments
Yeah... No. If you knew how stupid it sound when you even remotely imply that a stock bbgat is better than a heavy upgraded one you would fully stop doing so. Seriously.
You are mistaking bad exterior quality with bad performance even thought they are pretty much independent from eachother.

>>1772186
That's a shitty excuse, this gun customization was pointless shit anyway.
And don't tell me they couldn't give one NPC real guns. What about Ground Zeroes? I can accept DD using their own guns, with R&D and all, but Marines could have something that resembled M16s.
Fuck it I wish they remade Peace Walker on the Fox Engine.

>>1772154
It's not that I don't want to stick with the whole east German theme, I've just never realy liked AK'S in general. Idk what it is but I've just always liked the design of Galil's and in the most part never realy planned on fully committing to the whole east German Setup, I mean if I'm gonna do it I'm gonna do it my way whether it may look "retarded" or not. Thanks for giving all the other options as well there definitely getting put in as alternatives if ever I decided to change my mind

>>1772194
>Yeah... No. If you knew how stupid it sound when you even remotely imply that a stock bbgat is better than a heavy upgraded one you would fully stop doing so.

What, for like the third time now, i have already said that's NOT what i was arguing, and infact, i agree with that concept?

I literally say right here
>>1772078

>Yes, in most circumstances, upgrading bad low quality guns will outpreform expensive guns, but NOT under the prices of them.

So what are you trying to do here?

>You are mistaking bad exterior quality with bad performance even thought they are pretty much independent from eachother.

Where do i ever make this " mistake " ?

>hurrr my double eagle UMP is just as good as G&G one if I spend 250$ in upgrades

Upgrading cheap gat is viable option, but the externals wont last for long. especially if you disassemble it often

>>1772152
>You argued against none of my points
You have no points to argue.

Explain how it is possible for a replica with better internals than a stock one to perform worse than a stock one and you might finally be onto something that can be discussed. So far you are only beating around the bush.

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>>1772203

>Explain how it is possible for a replica with better internals than a stock one to perform worse than a stock one

For the fourth fucking time,

I literally say right here >>1772078

>Yes, in most circumstances, upgrading bad low quality guns will outpreform expensive guns, but NOT under the prices of them.

>So far you are only beating around the bush.

I'm not beating around anything, you just refuse to read something i have repeated more than three times now.

I agree with the fucking concept, just not price wise.

anyone have experience in AIM brand eotech replicas? Thinking of getting the XPS-3 they make

>>1772168
>i asked you to prove your argument by adding a list of upgrade parts
And I didn't oblige because...
>i asked you to take a picture of it
You didn't actually. But as I already said I knew you would do ask for more alienating shit, which is exactly why I didn't oblige the first time knowing what would happen. Even if I would have obliged both times you probably eould have asked gor a video or some other shit. You are not tricking anyone with that 'asking for shit until the guy is fed up' tactic.
>You providing proof is the tipping point of you and me being right or wrong
But that is wrong. Whether I have or not what I said I have doesn't bend the truth.
The truth is that a upgraded replica IS better than a stock one and no smount of grasping to the last straw left is going to change that.
>me proving i have airsoft guns does nothing at all
What kind of flawed logic is that?
>I argued against it
So did I. What, if it's you getting triggered it's called 'arguing'? Christ you are desperate.
>It's the truth.
No it isn't. Stay un denial.

>>1772199
But you just said that it is blatantly wrong in both departments.
How about you get your shit straight and make some sense in your posts?

Who the fuck said anything about "under the prices" other than you?

One guy recommended a cheap gun and upgrades, you butt in talking shit about how stock guns are not outperformed by upgraded ones and then suddenly is about a random pricetag?
And that's not even taking in consideration that if the gun is cheap enough it definitely would outperform a stock one under its price.

>>1772232

>You didn't actually. But as I already said I knew you would do ask for more alienating shit,

What do i say, here?

>>1771866
>post your gun

How do you post your gun?

By provide a picture of it, with a timestamp, right?

So i did, ask for a picture.

>Even if I would have obliged both times you probably eould have asked gor a video or some other shit. You are not tricking anyone with that 'asking for shit until the guy is fed up' tactic.

There is no tactic.

There is no nothing.

If you provide proof that your specific list of upgrades + the base price of a gun is under the price of a expensive gun like a TM AEG, than you are correct, and i am wrong.

Providing proof that you own the gun and the upgrades, shows me you're not lying about the scenarios you're bragging about, which PROVES YOU RIGHT.

If you provide a list that goes above the price of a TM AEG, than you are WRONG.

There is nothing else here, which is why i said it's the tipping point.

Until you provide proof for your argument, which invalidates mine, i am right, and you are wrong.


>You providing proof is the tipping point of you and me being right or wrong
But that is wrong. Whether I have or not what I said I have doesn't bend the truth.
The truth is that a upgraded replica IS better than a stock one and no smount of grasping to the last straw left is going to change that.

Okay, What the fuck. Am i being baited?

Is this all just some elaborate ruse?

For the FIFTH time now, I literally say right here >>1772078

>Yes, in most circumstances, upgrading bad low quality guns will outpreform expensive guns, but NOT under the prices of them.

You providing a list of what you have, added with the base price of the gun, agaisnt the price of a TM AEG,

I'm not fucking arguing against whatever your saying you fuck, I AGREE WITH YOU.

>What kind of flawed logic is that?

How is it flawed? What does it do to strengthen you argument, or prove anything?

Part 2 coming soon.

TO change the subject from the sheer autism of that argument, what eyepro do you guys run?

My ess v12s are falling apart, any recommendation for replacements?

>>1772271
Oakley M-Frames, ESS Crossbows.

>>1772269
>So did I. What, if it's you getting triggered it's called 'arguing'? Christ you are desperate.

It's something you're doing too, against me. Are you trying to degrade me, for doing something you're doing too?

For what purpose?

>No it isn't. Stay un denial

It not being the truth because you want it to be doesn't make it that.

If i believed you two were samefags, i would've said it.

>>1772248

>But you just said that it is blatantly wrong in both departments.
How about you get your shit straight and make some sense in your posts?

I do make sense, you just don't read it.

Also, you calling it wrong without saying it's wrong doesn't make it wrong. That's not how these things work, anon.

>Who the fuck said anything about "under the prices" other than you?

Nobody, i was starting a discussion, and the other anon disagrees which is obvious because he is arguing against it.

What, do you not like discussions? Just ignore or hide them, simple.

>One guy recommended a cheap gun and upgrades, you butt in talking shit about how stock guns are not outperformed by upgraded ones and then suddenly is about a random pricetag?
And that's not even taking in consideration that if the gun is cheap enough it definitely would outperform a stock one under its price

I started a discussion, by signaling that you could just buy a more, expensive rifle instead and get similar or same results, if you buy a cheap gun and upgrade it under the price of a expensive gun like a TM AEG.

If you don't like it, than you can argue against that concept, not the concept of upgraded>stock but expensive

>>1772198
Make an israeli loadout then.

>>1772269
>What do i say, here?
You are grasping really hard and it shows. You said that before you even asked for a list of anything so you are contradicting yourself already. And you clearly asked me to show the gat, not the internal parts which are clearly what matters. Feel free to argue that's not the case, even though you clearly asked for parts later in the conversation.
Good try but bot good enough.

>There is no tactic.
that's why I nailed it like 3 times already. You behave in the same fashion as every other retard involved in losing arguments.
>If you provide
And here we go again. I don't have to prove anything you thick skulled idiot. Upgrade parts upgrade replicas. Me having upgrades or not doesn't change that fact. You are basically arguing that springs, mottors, gears, etc don't work just because I'm not cracking open my gearbox for you. You are beyond stupid.
>NOT under the prices of them.
No one fucking said anything about staying under some random price range, fuck wit.

I'm real tired of your shit already. Instead of simply agreeing that you were wrong (which you were) you keep going on and on about how you are half right just for the sake of not losing the argument.

>Until you provide proof for your argument, which invalidates mine, i am right, and you are wrong.
That's not how the burden of proof works. And I don't even have to prove anything because my statement about what I own or don't own changes NOTHING about my statement about how upgraded replicas are objectively better.

>>1772271
ESS thermalpanes
They dont fog even in august after rain.

>>1772283
>Nobody
Then why in the everloving fuck would you bring that up? Are you aware that the entirety of the discussion is caused because you randomly added that part to suit your argumentative needs?

>someone said something about a cheap replica and upgrading it
>you butt in about how upgrades are worse
>when confronted about it you suddenly say that they are better but not under a certain price tag that you randomly added for no sparent reason
And you don't see where the problem is?

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>>1772329
Autism anon

So, are upgraded replicas better than stock ones or not?

>>1772307
>You are grasping really hard and it shows. You said that before you even asked for a list of anything so you are contradicting yourself already. And you clearly asked me to show the gat, not the internal parts which are clearly what matters. Feel free to argue that's not the case, even though you clearly asked for parts later in the conversation.
Good try but bot good enough.

Exactly.

Prove to me you own the gun, and provide me with a list of upgrades that go under a price of a TM AEG and you're right. Thats ALL i'm asking,

Literally just that! Just do those TWO fucking things, and you're right. Nothing else, i will not say anything else, just provide me a list of upgrades and prove that you have the gun! What is so hard about this? Call me stupid, or tell me i'm grasping really hard, but at this point, i do not care.

I have repeated the same couple of things over and over and all you have done is argue against something i have never said!

Just PROVE ME WRONG and i will be WRONG! What the fuck is so god damn hard to understand about a simple fucking concept!?!

>that's why I nailed it like 3 times already. You behave in the same fashion as every other retard involved in losing arguments

Insult me all you want, you're doing nothing. Just provide proof and i'm wrong! it's so fucking simple!


part 2 soon

You faggots know that your back and forth argument about the same fucking thing wont go anywhere no matter how many posts you make.

>>1772278
ess crossbows are £10 on ebay from china.

Hmm.

Are revision sawflys any good?

>>1772342
>Prove to me you own the gun
Why.
>provide me with a list of upgrades
Why.
>that go under a price of a TM AEG
Literally WHY.

No one said fucking anything about staying under a certain amount of money fucking hell.
All I said is that upgraded replicas perform better than stock ones.
What is so hard to understand? Do you have a learning impediment?

>>1772305
I've thought about it, I might consider doing that as well while getting stuff for the east German load out

>>1772342
>And here we go again. I don't have to prove anything you thick skulled idiot. Upgrade parts upgrade replicas. Me having upgrades or not doesn't change that fact. You are basically arguing that springs, mottors, gears, etc don't work just because I'm not cracking open my gearbox for you. You are beyond stupid.

So let me get this straight, again, you honestly, unironically believe any upgrade parts at all regardless of brand or quality, regardless of what they do, are automatically superior to every single part of that kind that any and all stock airsoft guns have?


>NOT under the prices of them.

I did!

It's called starting a discussion, what don't you understand?

>That's not how the burden of proof works. And I don't even have to prove anything because my statement about what I own or don't own changes NOTHING about my statement about how upgraded replicas are objectively better.

Yes, it does. My arguement, is that, CHEAP AEGs, that are upgraded, are NOT always 100% objectively superior in every single way.

I asked YOU to prove that you're not lying about your scenarios and that YOUR specific gun most likley isn't as good as one, and you REFUSED.

It's so simple! just PROVE your point, and i will believe you!

>>1772313

>Then why in the everloving fuck would you bring that up? Are you aware that the entirety of the discussion is caused because you randomly added that part to suit your argumentative needs?

To start a discussion. I started my whole argument out with that main point.

someone said something about a cheap replica and upgrading it
>you butt in about how upgrades are worse
>when confronted about it you suddenly say that they are better but not under a certain price tag that you randomly added for no sparent reason

I never said upgrades are worse. Never.

I started my argument out with the price tag part.

>>1772345
>literally every argument in 4chan ever
Why is it so hard for people to admit they are wrong? I should ask a psycholist or something.

>>1772357
>Prove to me you own the gun
Why.

Because it will prove you right.

>provide me with a list of upgrades
Why

To disprove my arguement


>that go under a price of a TM AEG
Literally WHY.

That was my arguement,

That a cheap gun upgraded under the price of something like a TM AEG will only get it to preform just as well or worse than one, because you need to spend MORE to make it better.

>No one said fucking anything about staying under a certain amount of money fucking hell.
All I said is that upgraded replicas perform better than stock ones.
What is so hard to understand? Do you have a learning impediment?

You clearly didn't read my replies.

>>1772363
>you honestly, unironically believe any upgrade parts at all regardless of brand or quality, regardless of what they do, are automatically superior to every single part of that kind that any and all stock airsoft guns have?
No. Stop implying things I didn't say even remotely.
>I did!
And why should I care? I never did and my point was that an upgraded replica would be better than a stock one. I never said anything about a cost limit and neither should you to rebute my argument because that variable had nothing to do with my initial statement.

Glad for clarifying that all this mess was caused by your utter stupidity. I have nothing else to say since you agreed with me numerous times minus the 'price limit part.
A piece of advice, don't get involved in another argument ever again.

This thread is fucking dumb

>>1772395
we reddit nao

>>1772395
How do we solve it? I say we make one that frowns upon useless bickering and unrelated topics, with consequences based on that

>>1772394
>No. Stop implying things I didn't say even remotely.

So why randomly start arguing, along with multiple others, that upgraded guns>expensive stock guns, despite me never bringing it up?

>And why should I care? I never did and my point was that an upgraded replica would be better than a stock one. I never said anything about a cost limit and neither should you to rebute my argument because that variable had nothing to do with my initial statement

You don't. It's a website, you don't have to give a shit about anything, you could've ignored it if you want, but you didn't. I wanted to start a discussion, but instead everyone ignored the main point i was trying to express, and called me a retard for arguing for something i never even argued agaisnt, and infact, said i agreed with the concept that upgraded better than stock.

I argued that if it's a cheap base gun, and you put little upgrades into it, then it won't be better than a expensive rifle, unless you put more than what the expensive rifle as a base costs.

It provided a option that anon could just buy a expensive rifle, than be done, rather than buying a cheap rifle than putting little upgrades into it to get it to either preform just as good or worse than a more expensive rifle. My option, was just one that required less work.

>Glad for clarifying that all this mess was caused by your utter stupidity. I have nothing else to say since you agreed with me numerous times minus the 'price limit part.
A piece of advice, don't get involved in another argument ever again.

Yeah, whatever you say. It's not my fault you cannot read.

>>1771901
as someone who owns a $1k+ DSG, a $500+ field gun, a $500+ MP9 setup, a $500+ hi capa setup, etc. etc. etc and have tuned literally dozens of replicas...

I would confidently say that a vast majority of "techs" absolutely butcher guns when they "upgrade" them. You can throw $1500 in aftermarket at anything and if you don't tune it correctly and don't know what you're doing in general it's going to be a self-destructing grindbox worth 20% of the likely damaged components.

The beauty of TM is the engineering and QC that comes out of the company, hence why so many companies imitate them. They do what they are designed to better than any other stock replica on the market and as well as around 90% of "custom" guns, because airsofters are retards and Japanese engineers are not.

Deal with it, TM haters

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>>1772405
I dunno
It was a comfy thread in ye old days
I guess people who want to actually talk about something need to step up and do it instead of just spectating shitposting spectacles

>>1772305
>>1772359
Columbian or South African are also great Galil loadouts, especially SADF if you can get a battle jacket and Galil midcaps. Finding Nutria or other South African camos isn't that difficult either.

>>1772407
>So why randomly start arguing, along with multiple others, that upgraded guns>expensive stock guns, despite me never bringing it up?
You have to be retarded or a pretty damn troll.
I started the argument by saying that the guy should get a cheap replica and upgrade it. You butted in so if anyone 'randomly started arguing' that's you.

>I wanted to start a discussion, but instead everyone ignored the main point i was trying to express
That's because you butted in an ongoing argument and started arguing with unclear information that no one but you considered because it had NOTHING to do with the ongoing argument.

God you are fucking retarded. How can you even breath without support?
And be glad I can't be arsed to backtrack because I would probably find posts proving that what you are saying now is bullshit excuses to save face.

it's funny because on reddit people at least know shit about shit. you guys are just retards who want to argue lmao

nevar change, 4chans

>>1772408
The implication here is that a properly tuned gun outperforms anything stock.
Obviously if you """"""upgrade"""""" your gun it is not going to do shit.

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>>1772405
It's literally two autistic morons who got into a stupid cyclical argument. The way to make the thread better is to think twice before you have to MUST SIMPLY argue someone who is WRONG on the internet. If the guy doesn't understand your point, then give up.

>>1772408
>someone who owns a $1k+ DSG, a $500+ field gun, a $500+ MP9 setup, a $500+ hi capa setup, etc. etc. etc
Prove it. Post pics and lists of parts or your opinion will be disregarded.

>>1772423
>knowing what gets posted on plebbit
>>>/reddit/

:^)

>>1772435
>airsoft field gun

Guys, what would a 75mm airsoft howitzer look like?

>>1772431
generally yes of course a properly tuned gun is precisely that. most stock guns aren't tuned and are shit. Even just a quick shim, re-lube, AOE, rewire, rhop, etc. will kick an AEG up and above most people on the field and all that costs basically nothing.

TM is basically the only stock gun that is well tuned OOTB though, and most tech work is done improperly or poorly. So they realistically do outlast and outperform almost every gun out there, user modified guns included.

>>1772439
Like ur mum's pussy but reversed
#rekt

>>1772422
>You have to be retarded or a pretty damn troll.
I started the argument by saying that the guy should get a cheap replica and upgrade it. You butted in so if anyone 'randomly started arguing' that's you.

Oh look, the retarded trope again!

You started randomly arguing THAT POINT, which is what i said, not that point.

I brought a option, and a discussion to argue with it. If you don't like to argue inside a discussion, than do exactly that, don't.

?

>That's because you butted in an ongoing argument and started arguing with unclear information that no one but you considered because it had NOTHING to do with the ongoing argument.

God you are fucking retarded. How can you even breath without support?
And be glad I can't be arsed to backtrack because I would probably find posts proving that what you are saying now is bullshit excuses to save face

" oooh scawwy u gonna backtwak "

Totally like i haven't constantly backtracked already to back up what i have been saying already.

How is it unclear?

I said that a cheap gun, upgraded, will usually either underpreform, or perform just as well as as an expensive rifle, such as a TM, if you don't spend as much as the TM.

This obviously means, that you will either have to spend more on upgrades to make it better or just get the expensive one and go on with your day.

When i brought this up, others started arguing as if i said " All upgrades suck, get the expensive rifle instead it'll be 200% better ". When i never did.

When i said that point, i was called a retard.

>>1772444
Holy shit go fucking fap man
Like
You need to stop this and do something else
Relieve some stress for a while why dontcha?

>>1772457
I mean, you're still replying, so i could say the same to you.

>>1772435
going out to a friend's b-day party downtown with my wife for this evening. i'll drag everything together for a family pic later on, stay tuned.

>>1772438
having used 4chan since 2005, i've since accepted that reddit is both better for constructive discussion and the mobile client functions well. i just enjoy checking up on the old autist community periodically.

>>1772461
Im someone else
Go unbunch yer panties

>>1772470
I mean, you took the time to reply, and reply again, so it still applies.

>>1772471
I am currently not in a position to fap
I am stuck watching 2 retards argue over nothing
Do it in my name, anon, fap for those that cant.

>>1772444
>I brought a option,
You didn't. You butted in using that limiting aspect as part of the counter argument when you noticed you were wrong.
Keep arguing, kid.

>>1772466
I'm kidding man. I use reddit too.
The webpage is a mess but the app is userfriendly so I started using it some time ago to the point that I spend more time there than here.

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>mfw I created this shitstorm
Feels good yet bad.

>>1772474

If i must be the one, than i shall.

>>1772474

I mean, if that's what you want to believe, than fine. You can go read what i say and see that you're blatantly wrong, but whatever.

I have already thoroughly proven i have done nothing wrong multiple times,than whatever, i don't care anymore, i'm going to do something else, i've won and gotten the arguing out of me for the day.

>>1772493
>I have already thoroughly proven
You haven't.

Keep going on big boy you are almost there.

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This thread needs more gats.

Post your Gats.

Friend is selling an P90 to me for 50 euros.
What gear setup would fit with the gun?

>>1772487
>implying you've got shit on M4 ergonomics
I am the king of shitposting /asg/, step down son.

>>1772509
what thing?

isn't the biggest shitposter here the PKM scope guy or the skull balaclava kid?:

>>1772508
Solidus Snake.
Arsenal Gear guys
Counter Strike loadouts
>>1772513
oh please, that's blatant samefagging.
My shitposts were so retarded because they were genuine and I could tell different people joined to call me names.

>>1772508
Future evil PMC.
Black/Typhoon everything and get a 57 as a sidearm.

>>1772522
>>1772518
MGS and Future evil PMC reminds me of MGS 4's fFROGs, which funnily enough would fit with my bodytype.
Neat gear, but would probably be waaaaaayy out of reach.

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>>1772508
Stargate

>>1772522
>evil PMC
Fuck off, commie.

>>1772518
samefagging as who?

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Would you?

>>1772553
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?

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Do your nips get hard after you soft, /asg/?

>>1772559
ugh

>>1772559
Before, during and after. It's why i had to stop wearing combat shirts, my teammates would always tweak my nipples.

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>>1772532

>>1772522
So any suggestions for clothing?

>>1772573
Vests.

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>>1772561
"Ugh, I know this feeling"?
>>1772569
Ouch, that sucks man. I have real big puffy nipples, gotta wear a bra to keep them safe.

>>1772577
" ugh it's that kind of poster again "

>>1772572
average_airsofter.jpg

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>>1772573
>>1772508
Just do some sort of security contractor, body guard, or even secret service kit.

>>1772576
>>1772581
I found a few suitable vests, and even a pair of pants, dyed blsck S95's.
But I am not sure what would be a suitable possible jacket.

I built a 50RPS 1,2J DSG with less than 250€. My main gun shoots 1,5J at 30rps and cost me almost 300€. Shoots about 60-70m.

All stock guns have ineffincies and flaws, even the expensive ones. 120€ in parts and little DIY is enough to build a high performance gun no matter what base gun you have. The performance and reliability depends on the tech. TM guns fair well because they are built well. The internals aren't great by any means though. They are only reliable due to their weak springs. If they had similar springs as chink guns, they'd be just as unreliable. Well built G&P / E&L is the best aeg you can get.

>>1772583
>what would be a suitable possible jacket.
http://store.tripleaughtdesign.com/Apparel/Jackets?_ga=1.237661632.1547031700.1467774005
http://www.511tactical.com/mens/mens-outerwear.html