I heared there is an argument /a/.
As long as post pics are work safe and anime, these belong to /a/, even it's Valkyrie Drive.
Work unsafe pics are not allowed in /a/, even it's anime.
I thought this is the rule for /a/.
Do I miss something?
ExHentai thread? ExHentai thread.
You need to know Hiroyuki that sometimes nudity is a core element of the media (be it anime or manga) and therefore if we are to discuss its effects, its qualities and elements in the most comprehensive manner possible, we must have the freedom to post and discuss nudity.
By not allowing us to post certain content (ala nudity), you are narrowing down the amount of meaningful discussions we can have on this board and in doing so decreasing the quality of the board.
Hiroyuki, there was a long standing rule that NSFW material from non-pornographic anime and manga was allowed, as to not inhibit discussion of the show.
Due to the risque (but not pornographic) nature of Valkyrie Drive, NSFW images are necessary for discussion. Banning that leads to it being impossible. Similar shows have been fine to post risque material for in the past.
its /a/'s fuel and dong. can't part with that man.
This has never really been a black and white issue on /a/, sometimes things are treated leniently if spoiled or obviously there for the discussion of the anime. Sometimes people write things that are far more not safe for work than any of the images could possibly be and are literally engaging in erotic roleplay here that has nothing to do with anime and nothing is done about it.
Yes NSFW pictures, particularly ones that are obviously porn should not be posted in /a/, however, ecchi anime and manga commonly features nsfw type pictures(to love ru, queens blade, valkyrie drive) and the screenshots or manga pages of those anime and manga are generally tolerated in /a/ as it's part of the discussion, even when it's nsfw, because it's not being spammed all over.
There's no concrete definition of it, although nipples are usually considered not safe for work but considering it's constant presence in anime/manga, official art/screenshots should be tolerated while fan arts should not be tolerated, but that's my opinion.
Work-safe is something that doesn't get you fired if your boss sees it.
Non-safe for work is everything else.
Although for that matter, I would fire anybody browsing the internet and not doing their job if it were me. But that's just me.
ALL WINGS REPORT IN THIS IS A HIROYUKI THREAD
Just to remind that there is disclaimer too so everyone is aware that boards has mature content even if it's work safe.
If you get in trouble at work for viewing it, then it's not safe for work.
So basically no vagina/penis, nipples have always been ok though, especially when it's official art, gif, webm, etc.
> /u/ (and /e/ and /h/) are terribly underused and could use more people posting there.
im actually agree with this. /e/ has a lot archives of lewd images.
Why don't we just use the spoiler function for NSFW images, That way everyone is a winner.
Hiroyuki, there's a simple solution for this. Ban people posting NSFW screenshots from shows like Valkyrie Drive outside of Valkyrie Drive threads. It should be fine to post these images inside VD threads.
There's only every one VD thread on the board, so this shouldn't be a huge problem. No one sane would browse a VD thread from work.
Ban it if it's porn
Let it be if it's a discussion.
No you fucking retard. If it's not hentai and not showing genitals it's fine.
The mod is full of shit and is trying to force people into his shitty /u/ board.
He goes around deleting anything he doesn't like under the guise of if being "on the wrong board" but babysits his shitty homo threads and generals that haven't had anime or manga content in months.
it's okay to post lewd images. SOMETIMES.
that's why moot blessed us with spoiler tag
Actual genitalia and explicit intercourse is a no-no. Nipple nudity, especially if it's from the original content itself and not fanart, should be a-okay.
This has long been established.
As I understood it, the rule generally was that nudity that was shown in any non-h anime/manga gets a pass. Anything else was supposed to go to /h/ or /e/.
Not that I care either way, as browsing at work or school isn't very smart. Use your fucking phone at least.
/a/ has allowed for moderately lewd content if it pertains to a currently airing anime. For some reason, a single mod freaked out and starting banning people because Valkyrie Drive had "lewd" transformation sequences, and told everyone to go to /u/. See >>132380874
Somethines things that would technically be not safe for work are posted to make a point or underscore an argument.
Take this for instance. It's posted a lot in Fate Threads. Technically there's an uncensored nipple in it and two women in carnal relations, but I've never seen it taken down as the nudity is not stressed, rather the point that one character happens to be bisexual. It's stuff like this that should be allowed on /a/, while actual smut does to the respective boards.
I think official manga art or actual anime screenshot, so long as the manga/anime is not hentai, it should be fine.
Ecchi anime/manga is ok(nipples, risque pose).
Hentai is not(vagina, penetration).
Because then we'd just become /h/ and half the board would be spoiler images. Nipples are fine as long as you spoil it though, especially considering the amount of 80-90s anime with them in it.
below the waist is a disgrace, on the chest is the best.
Here have some safe for work
Just allow nipples if they are behind a spoiler and are from an ecchi show/manga. Do not allow full on porn or vagina/penis shots. Also do not allow image dump threads of nipples.
The rules aren't meant to make it so people can actually browse /a/ at work, but just to stop there being a permanent "post hentai of this character" thread on /a/ which has nothing to do with discussing anime.
Who in their right mind actually goes into a thread about an ecchi anime at work? Let alone browsing /a/ where someone could see it. It really isn't an issue of being able to look at it at work. It is just meant to stop /a/ becoming a dumping ground for porn and to keep that on /h/ etc.
For the amount of nudity I would say penis/vagina=no, breasts are fine.
There are American laws and standards, but they are irrelevant because they have vastly different goals. 4chan rules aren't made to protect the children, because you have to be an adult to use 4chan. American pornogorphy laws are.
Depictions of sexual intercourse are prohibited, even threads like sadpanda keep it down.
Genitalia is also prohibited, however tits are fine. As long as the dick or cunt is covered the rest of the drawing can be naked, that is all.
Kissing is also okay I guess, as long as it's not extremely explicit shit like VD.
It's just an unspoken rule of sorts, for the longest time it was okay as long as it's in appropriate threads.
Going into one of those threads you are aware there might be nipple shots and whatnot.
How about this Hiroyuki.
We already have a
image tag. This instantly tells people that by viewing that image they will be spoiled about something.
Why not create a new tag so instead of instantly showing the not safe for work image, they see another image that tells them this image will be not safe for work but they don't have to see the image itself. That shouldn't be too hard right?
Why does /a/ need to be worksafe to begin with? Clearly the medium itself doesn't adhere to such standards, so why the fuck should an imageboard dedicated to it have to? People can freely choose whether they browse it at work or not. Seems like rule enforcing for the sake of it, I suggest admins and mods take a step back and think about why people come here in the first place.
I wanted to post the
Oh I don't mean start random threads with just full of spoiler images of porn but if it goes with the show/discussion then it should be okay.
Exactly, Kinda sounds like the mods just want people to use /e/ or /h/ more.
Yes Hiroyuki my lord.
I THINK WE SHOULD MERGE /e/ AND /h/
NOTICE ME YOU YELLOW CABBIT FUCK
its not about being ok for the office really, nobody browses /a/ at their office, its about stopping /a/ turning into a board of anime porn and keeping it about discussing anime.
Well, make sense. They even shows nipple in 18+ movie in theater . Since you need to be at least 18+ to post in this website, I guess it is ok. There's not much different isn't it?
I was here
Why can't I make my daily remember threads anymore?? Why can't I make Best Key girl threads anymore?
Why can't I make become meguca threads? Do you want to kill 4chan culture this bad?
Would you become meguca?
Yes it is complicated but you must understand:
/a/ is not a safe for work board for people who browse while they work, it's so that anime/manga discussions do not get sidetracked into hentai image dump.
It's mostly been a thing due to anime from the 80s that showed them, which is why it's an exception, or because of nip slips.
Very few anime actually do straight up show them these days. It seems like anything considered lewd though as with the VD threads, is straight up against the rules now though.
Like if I posted something from Gundam back in the day with a nip, I'd probably get banned, even though I never would have before.
Global rule #2: You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.
Nobody in their right mind should browse a website that requires you to be 18 and older in public or at their workplace.
SFW does not actually mean it's safe to browse at work.
The moment you browse /a/ at your workplace you have already lost.
Speaking out of experience.
Frankly if you are browsing /a/ at work you are in trouble regardless of the nudity. What most people are concerned about is nudity on their mobiles in public places. Breasts you can sorta get away with but when you have the penis and vagina popping out on screen and others see it you may cause a scene.
What if we work in a graphic/lewd environment for a job?
You're approaching this from the wrong angle. Think about what the rule is trying to achieve, rather than what it is. Then you'll know what the specifics of the enforcement should be.
This makes the most sense. The point of banning NSFW content is to make sure this is still a discussion board.
If you say 'it's allowed with spoilers', then you end up with threads full of spoiled NSFW pictures and no content.
If you say 'no nudity allowed what so ever', then lots of shows will be forced to move to image dump boards just for discussion. /a/ should be used for all anime discussion, anything that did or could air on TV in japan is a rough guideline.
The term "NSFW", or 'not safe for work', is meant to describe nudity, not to describe boards you would actually browse in public. Nothing on 4chan is safe for work, there's no sense in complaining that you 'accidentally' saw a bad image in a blue board. That's dumb.
The key to this rule working is it comes down to moderator discretion. They have to be smart enough to know when an image or set of images is derailing the thread from discussion and when it's not. I haven't seen the threads in question but it sounds like the mod mentioned in the OP isn't doing this correctly.
So is this now a bannable offense? We can't talk about Berserk anymore?
>It's not Moot
It wil take some time to get used to this
any screenshots form non-H anime is allowed (e.g to love ru) and it has always been like this.
Just for your information Hiro, this is the kind of thing being banned. And it's the most extreme example in the show.
There's no genitals being shown, I really don't think it should be a big deal.
My vote goes to this.
This is actually a great idea and everyone wins.
Wait, so if I post anime's screenshot which air in uncensored TV (like ATX) then it's safe to post here?
If it's from official material and is not HENTAI or PORN it should be OKAY.
For example, To Love-ru images by Kentarou Yabuki are okay, but TLR (nude) fan art is a no no that belongs on /e/.
I used TLR as an example because it is one of most popular franchises on /a/.
>deleting a tomboy thread
That sick fuck. It probably is, he's probably also the same mod that deleted the Ryuko KLK threads back then too, which caused a lot of shit too, granted they did belong elsewhere, since they turned into daily generals, but dude seems to just like gunning for very specific things, considering some of the daily general shit we have constantly.
If it's a screenshot/gif/webm taken directly from an anime it should be allowed.
If it's nude fanart from Pixiv or HF or wherever else it shouldn't be allowed.
That's easy to understand for posters and janitors/mods because there's no personal interpretation.
Even better would be to add a NSFW tag besides spoiler tags so people know when a screenshot/gif/webm will contain certain content.
Another possible solution would be adding a NSFW tag, just like we have one for spoilers. This way, NSFW but still non-pornographic content could be posted and people would be warned to not open those posts if they're in any situation where looking at NSFW content would be unadvised.
Also, someone earlier on said how things should be about as perfectly as the mod from >>132401830:
>The rule should just be:
>Is it actually screenshots from the anime? It's allowed.
>Is it 3rd party pornographic fanart? It's not allowed.
Why don't you hand the site over to someone who has a fucking clue?
Who's actually familiar with the site?
Who knows that /q/ was a fucking retarded idea and you're just repeating the same mistake?
This is 4chan, it's not supposed to be 100% sfw, so basically just spoiler all the nsfw stuff and add a spoilertag that marks that it is nfsw and anyone not using it correctly gets banned
Here's what I mean
So on the top we've got our existing spoiler image, clicking on that reveals the spoiled content.
And then on the bottom I did a test of a nsfw image tag so you know that by clicking the image you'll be voluntarily viewing not safe for work images.
If there's just nipples, it should be fine, even if they're being grabbed. Even boys have nipples.
The only thing that is inappropriate is erect penis or vagina, unless it's part of a joke.
What about this? Is this workplace safe?
The hypocricy in this place is stunning.
Yes, this has always been okay.
I appreciate that you actually came here to ask the community, Hiro. I know it doesn't seem like much on your end, but it really means a lot to me personally. Thank you.
Yes, if it is an actual anime, like Valkyrie Drive and not hentai, like, say, Boku no Pico.
Understand that "safe for work" is not meant to be taken literally, it does not mean people should browse /a/ while they work, it just means that images on /a/ should pertain to the discussion of anime or manga, and in the case of ecchi anime like Valkyrie Drive, screenshots of the show with nipples in them is ok, but erotic fan art with bare nipples and vagina is not.
Oh yeah? Go to /h/ and try to actually discuss anything. I've seen people get banned for trying to discuss hentai; they rationalize it by saying /h/ is only for dumping pictures. What a load of shit.
You want to fix it Hiro, get rid of Troid and the other bad mods and janitors. They don't enforce anything on any of the boards and use their power for whatever they deem as unnecessary to delete/ban/etc.
Okay Hiro, "first for Poland" post aside, there's a distinction to make.
Material coming from regular published manga not revealing genitals in full or depicting actual sex is work-safe and belongs to /a/. That includes fan art of the same quality.
Threads on /e/ differ in that they mostly disregard the talk about the specific anime/manga series and concentrate on characters instead. The range of material stays the same as on /a/, though.
Material from adult doujinshi and h-manga/anime belongs on /h/.
Fan art showing genitals in full, or sex (and not fondling, licking etc) belong on /h/.
Threads on /u/ are similar in spirit to /e/, but they limit themselves to yuri and can accept hentai.
There's an increasing amount of fanservice surfacing in recent shows. However, it's not possible to split the group. As others say, it's a slippery slope.
Consider this picture from To Love Ru: Darkness. It's a regularly published manga in Jump Square. The genitals aren't revealed in full, and it doesn't depict straight on sex. Thus, it belongs to /a/.
If you were caught looking at this at work, you'd be fired on the spot. Yet this is considered "safe for work" by 4chan's standards, because there is no nudity and it's not a sexual situation.
Do you see how dumb this all is?
What about threads that are made solely for the purpose of dumping images and talking about "muh dick" even if they're relatively safe for /a/'s standards? These are the kind of threads that should belong in /e/ or /h/ so the boards are actually used.
The idea that no nipples or vaginas makes something "work safe" always seemed odd to me.
Pic is "work safe" but I wouldn't feel comfortable looking at it at work.
You really think Troid and the rest of the faggot ass mods are doing their job properly? Look at half the fucking boards on 4chan, they're a goddamn mess of shit against the rules or plain up shitposting, and Troid is by far the worst one at enforcing any amount of shit. All he enforces is shit that he personally doesn't like, while keeping shit that should be banned that he likes.
Is it an aring anime or thread discussing the show?
Okay as long as it gets spoilered
Is it hentai?
take it to /h/, with the occassional hentai we always have spoilering stufff
Just don't allow more generals besides the buyfag and sadpanda and that's it
Not yet. We need to make it 100% absolutely sure, understood and confirmed that as long as it's not hentai, it's fine. Nipples and other ecchi stuff should be fine.
As long it's not hentai, it should be alright.
>autists actually wanting to turn /a/ into /e/
I don't understand this mental disorder people have here. If we already have 2 fucking boards for this, why do you want to post NTFW (as the own meaning this has) here?
>Not a SOX logo
You know what's hilarious? The spoiler tag has never actually been used for legitimate spoilers. Board culture across 4chan doesn't give a shit about spoiling things for anyone, and mods/janitors never ban or delete anything that's an untagged spoiler.
Spoiler text and tags are used solely for dramatic effect and NSFW material.
I think if the show that has these lewd images or scenes its fair to post them within discussion, If you're just gonna endlessly spam porn or lewd fan art then that shit shouldn't be allowed.
Nobody wants to turn /a/ into /e/. We just want to keep how /a/ has always been. We've always been able to post nips and lewd scenes from animu/mango, whether it's a gif, webm, png, jpg, or whatever. As long as it wasn't straight up hentai or had exposed vagina/penis.
>butthurt mongoloids constantly complain about random shit and that retarded attention seeking butthurt chink who works objectively shittily isn't going to fix anything and he only wants attention
It feels objectively incredible to not care about that retarded drama.
Why would you browse a valkyrie drive thread if you're at work? Is like you're asking to get promoted.
In these kind of threads the no-lewd policy should be more premissive.
>nipples are NSFW
>TV nipples aren't
Basically this: >>132401830 . The criterion is if the anime is pornography or not; the actual content of the image is irrelevant, so long as it's from an actual anime and that anime is not pornography.
How do we define pornography? That's a tricky one, and a problem the best minds of the US government have not been able to solve beyond "I will know it when I see it".
But I'd suggest that any show being aired and promoted by Funimation probably isn't pornography.
>Actually wanting more tag
Yeah, because people here are known to used them correctly right?
4chan is not safe for work. Please understand.
It's impossible to word the current accepted rules without mentioning 'moderator discretion' at some point.
You have to emphasize the 'spirit of the rules'. That is, this is a discussion board, images posted should be part of the discussion, the discussion should not revolve around the images.
See posts like these.
Me neither, it's the worst idea ever.
Anime is full of hot girls, so a board about anime is going to be full of hot girls, but allowing nudity is just going to turn this place into porn dumps in which case go to /e/ or /h/.
Leave things as they are. If it isn't broken don't fix it.
This happened because VD hasn't been able to have discussion without deletions which started controversy.
/e/ is for image dumps, not discussion.
Despite popular belief, people do like discussing the plot of ecchi anime, which is usually included with posting screencaps/webms.
He's doing a better job than moot, when did we ever get consulted about how we wanted our community to be run then? It was just "these are the rules now if you don't like it fuck off" before.
>moot never responded to you
>Hiro never has and never will either
Lewd specific spoiler tag is a great idea. Let's make it happen.
it does in japan and in the west. when talking about anime, japanese clearly means robots, but when they talk about any appliances, they meant any mecha.
the giant robot board in 2chan is /robo/ so i'm sure that's what /m/ was originally going to be.
Aren't we fine as we are?
Just allow Valkyrie Drive lewd as long as it is spoilered.
It's not the first ecchi anime we experience, the mod was more against lesbians that actual tits for the looks of it
We were fine with DxD, Queen's Blade, Seikon no Qwaser, Lades vs Butlers etc etc etc.
and even with BD releases later
Please I beg you eliminate generals and clearly circlejerking threads.
Overlord was finished long ago. There's nothing to discuss anymore as there are no daily (not even weekly) translations but they keep it as generals.
Also cancerous newfags conglomerates threads as 3x3 threads. Everyone who post in these nowadays know each other from MAL or something (or even facebook) and come here to circlejerk (which is forbidden in /a/, they should go to /soc/) and no one can stand it anymore.
Please read this Hiro.
Any of these should happen, They're quick and simple, The board doesn't change much either.
Basically put - If it's in the show it should be spoilered up with the lewd tag and be able to be discussed.
Dumping stuff that hasn't happened in the show like porn art or whatever is not allowed.
Stuff like this should be allowed since it´s part of an sfw anime. That´s how it´s always been right?
I don´t see a problem with it as long as it´s not "porn".
The general idea of NSFW and SFW is if you would get in trouble from the average person if they saw you browsing it while walking by, in practice SFW stuff is basically no porn or nudity.
I'm for this though, there's things that need to be posted but happen to have varying degrees of nudity, like a new chapter of berserk or whatever.
So I can post AT-X webms like this one?
>I never understood why 4chan does some nsfw and sfw.
Because porn can drown out the rest of the board. Example being how a /wsg/ was made because of how /gif/ was just all porn and people wanted to be able to see threads not just porn.
Now for personal opinion time: the rules need to change, the rules feel oppressive, and when rules are being selectively enforced (like these are) it leads to corruption, and it leads away from the ideal that everyone here is equal and anonymous.
There are a load of recurring threads here that utterly disregard the SFW rule, in particular the "sadpanda" ones.
The de-facto rule seems to be "you can't post lewd things, unless it's spoilered and it's something the mods like".
This isn't sustainable.
4chan is not in any way safe for work anyway, minors are banned from 4chan, and the culture of /a/ is not safe for work. The rules need to change to accommodate the people, not the other way round.
He's just a retarded attention seeking butthurt chink who works objectively shittily and he only wants attention.
I feel like you lose your expectation of a work safe internet when you're on 4chan.
Browsing a work safe board makes it less likely you'll see cocks, but you're always liable to see cocks here.
That being said, if it's a Screencap from Valkyrie drive and it was legit broadcast on TV then its nonpornographic and should be allowed on /a/
As in function, this thing I've marked in the image
We just need another one that says "nsfw" so people will know what each does
What part of japan were you born in?
People who have been on the board for some time do understand this. Maybe the rule needs to be reworded though. It's really about stopping porn dumps from overtaking discussion rather than a blanket ban on sexual images.
He means the spoiler tag, like this
Sorry to disappoint you, but it is true. People before were able to post a full doujin with no problem and no one gived two shits. It just that now we are expected to pander to normalfags and little kids that are afraid of their parents seeing anime sluts.
GO KILL YOURSELF RIGHT NOW YOU PICE OF SHIT!
This is what we use.
>Was it shown in the show that wasn't a hentai?
Good you can post it.
>Was there a flopping dick, a squirting vagina, or any amount of physically seen and not implied sex?
It belongs in /h/, not /a/.
Is anyone frustrated trying to explain this. No offense hiro but the barrier is kind of daunting to deal with daily on issues like these. Is there any sort of middle man that could explain to you and we just to them.
>If it's a screenshot/gif/webm taken directly from an anime it should be allowed.
>If it's nude fanart from Pixiv or HF or wherever else it shouldn't be allowed.
>That's easy to understand for posters and janitors/mods because there's no personal interpretation.
Nobody will ever complain about barbie doll anatomy.
Please reconsider this. I think it's just sidestepping the issue, hiding it under the carpet. What's more, you passively allow NSFW dumps this way.
If you define clear rules like other anons and I >>132402291 have, then you will avoid future conflicts when an NSFW dump is defended by saying "it's all tagged as NSFW, it's totally fine!".
I got banned for posting violence jack once.
although the ova and manga is clearly not hentai.
violence jack shouldn't have to go to /h/.
The key to the rules working are mods that understand how the rules should be implemented. The current rules are basically just a tool to remove what content needs to be removed, that does not mean it should be used for every instance where it CAN be removed. Only when it SHOULD. Mods (and janitors) need to understand when to apply it.
I think that sadpanda threads should be moved out, they have nothing to do with anime. That said, if they get moved then it should be made sure that whatever board they are moved to allows them to discuss the topic. If they get moved to /e/ or /h/, the threads need to stay the same, i.e. only post one image from a doujin, so that discussion can happen rather than people dumping entire doujins all day.
If you want to fap just go and then come back
Official nudity is allowed.
Fan art nudity is a no no.
As long as it doesn't show the genital, then it's an okay. Why do you make it so complicated, faggot?
Before someone post VD's image, they can edit it first.
Yes please. Basic cable is how it has been and should be. Official, easy to understand and moderate.
All this stuff about adding a whole new set of tags is just more work, and irrelevant.
Things were fine up to now, just that tonight one moderator got all weird about things.
This is much better than moot coming in, telling us clear cut whatever his stance is, and leaving. Seriously, anon.
Look how simple that is, Thanks Hiro.
VD threads are allowed then.
Hiro, this should be okay in /a/
ALL HAIL HIRO
ALL HAIL HIRO
ALL HAIL HIRO
OK. Here is the summary:
If it is from a hentai, it is not allowed
If it is from a lewd fan art, it is not allowed
If it is from a game, it is not allowed
If it is not 2D, it is not allowed
Every nudity else is allowed on /a/
How about you just reprimand the fucking mod that is currently on a power trip and leave /a/ alone?
/a/ is fucking fine as it is, and has always been that way for a long ass time.
Your call to find a solid definition of what's acceptable for lewd on this board is damn insulting.
Meaning I won´t be allowed to post this pic anymore?
Nias nipples are shown in the anime. see>>132402598
Sorry for complicating things.
This works, just make sure mods aren't too strict on what is 'nude'. A raunchy image with some tight clothes or a nipple peaking out should not be an issue, but full nudity and genitals should be banned.
We do not want to get banned for posting images where you can see nipples poking through the shirt.
I thought if it was a blue-board there was supposed to be no NSFW period? That is probably why mod-kun is coming down on us.
We could always make /a/ pink and strictly enforce a rule saying that NSFW can only be posted if it is relevant to the discussion.
Hiro my friend, here is a very important question:
/ag/ - Anime Generals
/ar/ - Anime Retro
/man/ - Manga
There should be some room for interpretation for fan art nudity. However, that would have to be with the caveat that you're dealing in risky territory so it had better be good and relevant.
ATX version is the one we strive for!
nigga... why you gotta activate my trap card?
Can we filter out htese words while we are at it?
specially on /v/?
For a long time 6+ years we could post lewd H things. Moot went sjw on us and started banning lewd things about two years ago. This angered many, though it was moot´s website at the time so we were forced to deal with it.
As a 7 year veteran going onto 8, I believe lewd and dirty things keep the casuals, liberals and the politically correct crowd away.
Let dem titties free, yo.