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Okay /lit/ as cliche and retarded as this is going to sound, my girlfriend and I are considering writing a fantasy novel. We aren't amateurs as far as writing and researching goes, as both of us have degrees (her psychology, me history). We want to write something fairly grounded in reality, but with cool fantasy elements that help the story stand out (I mean, that's kind of how most fantasy settings go anyway) and I'm looking for good suggestions of other fantasy novels and such that we can look to for general inspiration for how things should work as far as the story structure goes. No, I'm not asking you guys to write our book for us or give us material to steal from, just looking for inspiration.
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>>9674619
Also TL;DR: Give me good medieval fantasy books to read
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Your girlfriend is an idiot.
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>>9674625
For getting the psychology degree? Oh yeah, she reminds herself and I of that every day, but at the very least the skills she learned and the philosophies she studied are gonna come in handy in the workplace and when writing this book.

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Wether they are untraslated or too expensive to buy or generaly unavailabe what are the books you wished you could read /lit/?
Me pic related by Alberto Laiseca
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I am german, there is no translation.
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>>9674947
I agree. What was the general summary again?

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>Lawn.
>Lawnmower.
>Mow the walls of oppression with your 1 inch blades of steel.
>Steel heart. Steal my heart.
>Heart pumps blood into my penis.
>Pumping blood. Pumping hands.
>Hands pumping over my shaft.
>Fapping.
>Fap. Fap. Fap.
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>>9674505
that really rene?
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>>9674703
you think people had communities pretending to be retarded in the 1650s?
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>>9674703
yeah people totally dressed that way in the 17th century

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I want to get into Goethe, particularly his fiction. Can you help me, /lit/?
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do you read german? -> Poems
want romance? -> Sorrows of young Werther
want weimar classizism? -> Iphigenie on Tauris
magnus opus -> Faust
want old reflexive Goethe?-> Wilhelm Meister
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Faust II is all you need.
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Lotte in Weimar is all you need to read about Goethe

Can Berkeleyan idealism be reconciled with the theory of evolution?

I've been thinking about how idealism provides a solution to the hard problem of consciousness, which asks how a collection of unthinking atoms when placed together in some arbitrary configuration - through the process of evolution by natural selection - can give rise to consciousness. An idealist is able to respond that, in fact, non-thinking atoms to not give rise to consciousness at all, because reality does not consist of atoms: all that exists are perceptions of atoms. Thus, idealism dissolves Chalmers’ hard problem of consciousness into a question of not why there are perceptions or states of experience, but what they are.

But a passage in Schopenhauer's World as Will and Idea has really been bothering me. He says, ‘on the one hand, the existence of the whole world is necessarily dependent on the first knowing [conscious] being, however imperfect it be; on the other hand, this first knowing animal is just as necessarily dependent on a long chain of causes and effects which has preceded it, and in which it itself appears a small link.’

Schopenhauer then seems to argue, that to speak of ‘time’ or ‘causation’ before the existence of consciousness is to use these concepts outside of the only realm in which they can be used – as time and causation can only exist if they are perceived in a mind. ‘Outside of knowledge [mind], there was also no before, no time.’

I am hoping someone can help me wrap my head around this. We have mountains of evidence for Darwinian evolution. Does the idealist argue that with the birth of consciousness, evolutionary history is created in the mind of the conscious being? In that case where do minds come from? Is that akin to asking where does the universe come from?

Berkeley argued that because ideas are ordered to such minute details so as to make the most detailed scientific investigations show consistency, they must be the product of a far more powerful mind: God. Would a Berkeleyan idealist argue that God creates in us our perception of the past, but prior to consciousness, it didn't actually happen?

Thanks.
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>>9674430
>it s a rationalists claim that theories solve problems episode

theories are just speculation taken seriously by a few people
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>>9674434
what?
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Both are wrong. There, reconciled.

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Are there any authors that manage to capture violence and human savagery as a central part of a story without glamorizing it like Cormac McCarthy does? I've been interested in seeing how different authors handle this.

Also, on a related note what would you say is the Taxi Driver of /lit?
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>>9674417
what would you say is the Taxi Driver of /lit?
The Catcher in the Rye, no meme.
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>>9674450
A story about someone who doesn't fit into society having a meltdown?

Yeah, that checks out, but as a former edgy teen, I already read that one.
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>what would you say is the Taxi Driver of /lit?
Notes from Underground

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What does /lit/ think about theatre and other such works?
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I love the theatre I would just wish they would play more of the classics, where I live it's 99% post-modern-pseudo-political bullshit
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Love it but too bad they're expensive to stage so not many good ones where I live

If only there were readily available, high quality recordings of plays somewhere
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What does /lit/ think of books and other such works

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used to be a lefty. turning into a reactionary pretty fast. I would like to balance my reading so could you recommend me some modern (or old) communist / leftists writers that honestly address the following points:

1 - Take responsibility for all the murderous "not real communism" and propose measures to avoid it beyond magical local communities that somehow emerge from nothing and "beautiful soul" style ideological purity that will never lead to anything in the real world?

2 - Puts any effort into building up structures that could work instead of centering all their efforts into tearing down structures without really having a working replacement for them.

3 - Doesn't despise actually existing working class people

Doesn't need to be the 3 points in the same text. Just addressing some of them would be nice enough.
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rn im loling @ ur life
how can you be so basic
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How old are you?
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>>9674392
Generally, communism is just a vision with barely any real idea how to get there in a practical capacity. Ancaps have a similar issue with their world views.

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>>9674384
Through knowing the highest, the best, the greatest and devoting my life to it.
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>>9674390
That's saying a whole lot of nothing
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>>9674384

1: kill everyone else

2: put a chair up on a hill, call it my throne and sit on it

Is it "all intense and porpoises," or "all in tents and pour pussies"?
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death comes for us all
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>>9674304

neither of those triggers me as much as "intensive purposes"
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>>9674308
>hahahahaha
so funny "look I'll pretend to be stupid"
kill yourself right now.

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Everytime I try writing, I just end up feeling like my ideas are not original and that I'm ripping off someone else's ideas. I feel like it's all been done before. My mind will immediately remember a book I read or a movie I watched and see a similarity.
Maybe I'm not as creative as I thought I was. Maybe I'm just good at writing, but not good at storycrafting.
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There aren't any new ideas of importance. All that matters is how you present them.
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your father isn't going to rescue himself from the underworld bucko

get back to work
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Try drugs

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>tfw you dedicate your entire life to producing crass useless aphorisms

Has a philosopher ever sucked this much?
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who is this
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>>9674220
Emil Cioran.
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nietzsche

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"As hysterics, you demand a new master. You will get one"
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>The hysteric demonstrates that all speech proceeds from the place of the Other. The Other is master, letting the as yet inarticulate subject come into being:

>I am / who you say < --> I say / who you are.

>The hysteric plays it as though she commanded the Other, yet symbolically she is entirely dependent on him whom she begs to make her a subject. She commands and at once surrenders. Her question, "Who am I?' receives the answer "You are who I say."

>On the side of the Other the question ends with the gift of speech. But this gift has an essential flaw. By answering the subject's question: "Who am I?" the Other lets the subject come into being; but any given answer, necessarily specific, reduces the subject's quest to a finite object: "Who you are? A saint, a fool, a hospital case..." Calling the subject into being, the hysteric's "Who?" in response receives a what that objectifies her.

>Tell me who I am? --> You are what I say.

>The division of subject and object, an irrevocable effect of language, provides the treacherous ground for hysteria to perform its manoeuvres.

>The hysteric is a speaking riddle, the symptom that elicits speech from the other. Any answer will do as long as there is one at all. The historical abundance of theories on hysteria demonstrates this profusely. They have said anything and everything about hysteria save the truth.

sphinxes on suicide watch
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>>9674119
ironic but still unimpressive

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DUDE HEDONISM LMAO
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>>9674084
dreadfully boring book, definitely on my list of reading regrets
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>>9674089
This.
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>>9674089
I mean It was probably objectively not a great book, but it was certainly not boring. Did Oscar Wilder's view of art not interest you at all?

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What's the best English translation/publication of In Search of Lost Time? Quora brings up an annotated version by William Carter through Yale Press, which seems pretty useful.

Is it even worth reading anything past Swann's Way? Any history one should know before getting into it? It's been a few years since I've seriously read any traditional literature.

>inb4 learn French
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oh my god how many fucking times do we have to answer this
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>>9674087
I swear it's like these threads just repeat on a loop. I see the same few threads on a weekly basis.
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>>9674087
>>9674093
You didn't even read my post. Nowhere in the archive dating a month back did I find any mention of a definitive or even recommended version of Proust, only inane arguments over whether or not it was worth your time to read. Also, if you're seeing "these threads" every week or so many "fucking times", consider spending less time on the internet.

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