What is your favorite Gorey story? Mine is The Gilded Bat.
Part of Gorey's library:
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>>9878702
His alphabet book.
I wish I had the eyes of a Gorey cartoon.
>>9878702
That's a great one.
The Imprudent Excursion comes to mind.
I'm away from my books atm...
Is being a novelist the only way to avoid specialization nowadays? The only way to keep the bigger picture in your work?
>>9877988
Is it filmography?
>>9877994
is what filmography?
>>9877988
I think so. Novelists are typically "generalists" rather than specialists.
Finally purchased this book. I'm very excited to start it. Anyone read it? Thoughts?
>>9877856
it's the textual equivalent of Sagan staring into the sky and muttering "Billions and billions and billions and billions and billions".
First and Last men is funnier, in my opinion.
I've read that and Last and First Men. Both are highly imaginative and filled with stimulating concepts, but a bit dry prosaically.
>>9877856
I got bored after forty pages. There are more interesting things to read imo
Is there a person who BTFO'd Christians harder than Nietzsche did?
Christians have this image of anti-Christians as being like Lucifer, they are rebellious like a child and ultimately resentful towards the father figure. But then here comes Nietzsche, a man whose father DIED literally as a child, whose paradise "lies in the shadow of my sword" as he himself wrote, who found heaven ON EARTH, who wrote The Antichrist out of pure PASSION for the earth. A metaphysics of being that cannot be dismissed as based on resentment or sickness. Nietzsche is hygienic, you can sense it in his writing, which is what makes him so dangerous to Christ.
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I’ve been reading some critical reviews of philosopher John Gray and wanted to discuss him. But I should reread his book first. So instead of a wall of text with my own interpretations I want to see what /lit/ thinks of his statements as I remember them and read in the reviews.
Can humanism and progressivism be considered to be similar or even the same as religion? Can these ideologies prevent human conflict and suffering?
Does knowledge bring us liberation?
Is there a reason to belief that a post-religious world wouldn’t fall victim to millenarism? With religion removed would we be more rational and less violent?
Does it follow from human nature that violent conflict and environmental destruction are likely or even inevitable?
>>9873813
Look, read The Postmodern Condition by Lyotard and The Spirit of Terrorism by Baudrillard before Gray.
>Can humanism and progressivism be considered to be similar or even the same as religion?
The cup contains an unstable admixture of Jesus, Kant and Feuerbach regardless of whether you purchase your drink from a priest or the local humanist association.
>Can these ideologies prevent human conflict and suffering?
It works like this: try ideology 1.0, conflict and suffering doesn't go away, claim ideology 1.1 will end them for good.
They will never comprehend that, by the time the 1.1 update has been downloaded, conflict and suffering have already been updated to their own 1.2 versions.
That is because ideology works by interpretation, an intepretation that by definition is of something that happened in the past, no amount of clever foresight can give it an access to the future. Conversely its effectiveness can only be measured a posteriori.
There is no way to avoid this systemic flaw of any and all ideologies, every last one of them advertising itself to be the final ultimate ideology to end all ideologies.
>Does knowledge bring us liberation?
Did you ever ask yourself who is this us? The knowledge of what? And in the hands of whom? Used for whose purposes? And which purposes? Can't you see it this knowledge thing becomes more and more compartimentalized, segregated even in academia and the hierarchy thereof?
>Is there a reason to belief that a post-religious world wouldn’t fall victim to millenarism?
None. Singularitarians are already spreading the good news of the latest upcoming eschaton.
>With religion removed would we be more rational and less violent?
It simply means we become resistant to one of the opiates sold by the pharmacy, and the latter bends over backwards to sell it at a cheaper price, while downsizing its investment.
>Does it follow from human nature that violent conflict and environmental destruction are likely or even inevitable?
It follows from nature, with no adjective, that if we have a water crisis the "rational" thing for me to do is to take your water away if I can get away with it, because "reason" says fuck you and your thirst, that's why. The environment doesn't get "destroyed", it changes, our plastic bags are not antimatter; the issue is not whether it will survive but which species will.
>>9873813
Is anything besides Straw Dogs worth reading?
>>9874033
Yes. Just read an authors entire bibliography if you are interested in their work.
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>>9887309
Animals can't read books. We're inherently better than them.
I hope we get to play the dykes
It's our year lads
How do I do what he did?
Write like a total maniac, like 10k words a day.
You're going to need drugs and booze, lots of it.
>>9887164
while writing listen to hard rock (like AC/DC and GNR)
Don't even bother. King has superior genetics. No mortal can come close to him.
I know a lot of you guys are well read and pretty good writers so I figured this might be a better board to ask on as opposed to /adv/.
Gonna green text just for ease of access' sake.
>Had my mom transcribe my infantile stories as a kid
>Never read much
>Got special attention throughout primary/elementary from a teacher who was an author in her down time
(Though I'm black and from a single parent family so I've always taken her encouragement as a result of that, not in spite of it.)
>Mom lets me start boxing at 11
>Boxing and sports took over, writing was relegated to forum roleplay and later roleplay on some MMOs.
>Was allowed into closed RP communities with adults and selection processes at a pretty young age.
>Experienced MMO RPers often commented I was good
>Teacher who taught screen-writing lessons lumped big praise on me for my work
(Again, I'm always very suspicious of praise from state workers. Maybe it's this site's cynicism)
>Stopped boxing
>Things went to shit
>Started boxing again things got a lot better.
>Stopped RPing too
>Still not well read,
>Still only capable of enthusiastically writing trash like Sci Fi and Star Wars
Generally would you guys say it's worth continuing to write going off of the scenario I've laid out?
I don't know how talented I really am, though I'm sure I'm okay. I see abysmal writers getting jobs in the video game industry and I do have links within it so I have to wonder.
>>9886510
>believing in talent
As for the question, there are no guarantees no matter how your writing is. Now connections, that shit helps a lot more, and video games got writing that makes 50Shades look like a masterpiece of literature, so your chances aren't too bad.
The thing is, it's still a lot about chance and if you're not willing to risk it, better get some cozy deskjob and the likes.
>>9886535
Taking a desk job would probably see me RPing again and that shit's so degenerative and depressing that I'd rather not.
I'm curious as to what you mean about
>believing in talent
>>9886510
Goddamnit, I hate kids. You said you had talent but didn't say that you wanted to be a writer, or anything else. Just do whatever you want. You're black so you can and will just do whatever the fuck you want anyway.
I'm looking for a life changing book. Any recommendations?
No commercial self-help tomes or Nihilism please. I'm looking for more spiritual/philosophical books but with a practical side. Preferably non-fiction but happy to look into fiction titles.
I'm at my lowest point and don't see a future for myself. I need something or someone to relate to. I need to snap out of it and I figured a good book could be a good way of doing this
my diary desu
Im nglconfederacy of dunceshelped me a lot after I got diagnosed withschizophrenia
>>9886301
this not even kidding
>try to read philosophical text
>too hard to understand
> only end up reading books about guys interpreting these texts
How do I end this cycle?
Unironically start with the greeks
I don't see how this is a problem?
I feel like you suffer from a sort of 'appeal to authority'.
Philosophy is about ideas and truth, not authors and their books.
Take heidegger for example, most people would do far better and understand far more about his thought and ideas if they simply read the SEP article. Who cares about slugging through his needlessly complicated verse, if you can more easily comprehend the ideas another way?
Do you just want the 'tick' the philosophical work of a list you have of books you think you 'ought' read to be a learned man? Do you just want to be able to say you've read the book?
>>9886165
That's something to be said of having your own interpretation. Especially if you are ambitious in your goals as an intellectual.
I'm 22 and having an identity crisis
Been browsing lit and reading occassionally for a couple years, read some classic meme philosophers, then fell into the neoreactionary movement, into fascism, white nationalism, and traditionalism for the past couple of months
I feel like even if I agree with a lot of what I read, some of it makes me sick. Slowly I've been becoming more distant from my friends, always jaded and judging everything they say and do. When one of them brings up a new movie or TV show up I just turn off my mind to avoid hearing the garbage. I can't go back and enjoy the same things I used to even if I wanted to.
Everything I see gets filtered through the scope of my fragmented and angry worldview. Maybe I do have stronger principles about some things now, but to actually apply them is rare and unrealistic for me. Are they actually even my principles? Everytime someone does or says something I disagree with something eats away at me as I make a quick judgement about them, and even if I do apply my beliefs it always puts me in a weird spot
Is Stirner the only one that can save me? I thought identifying with a bigger concept would serve myself self interest.
Should I keep on pushing in the same direction or should I bottle it up? I feel emasculated and that I need to do something but all my attempts leave me wondering if any of it is acually benefiting me.
Any book reccomendations accepted thank you.
Start with the greeks.
>>9886020
what will that do?
Anonymous
Am I God?
Are we all our own personal Gods?
Can we use this power or something?
Someone?
Anyone?
Can anyone know?
ya dude
>>9885409
I'll take "thoughts while hitting the bong" for 800, Alex
>>9885484
I'm dropping acid and reading Hegel.
I fell for the nihilism meme. How do I get out.
>>9885359
You posted the answer.
>>9885359
Are you familiar with the Theory of the Forms?
Honestly going to get this tattooed on my forearm.
Thoughts??
>>9885097
I will shoot you if I ever see you.
>>9885097
fuck you
>>9885105
>>9885109
Ive never understood the hate cucks have for this man
Without the power of the state I would use my own might to make you my property and do with you WHATEVER I like
If you dont like the state then I hope you like MY OWN might stomping your fucking skull in
Dostoevsky said that if there is no God we must invent one and I have done just that by BECOMING god
If I start with the Greeks, who do I end with?
The Greeks, again
>>9884561
yourself
My diary desu