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the way they drop hints is miserable we get it, just announce

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the way they drop hints is miserable
we get it, just announce it and give us a release date already
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>Kanto with no Game Corner
>Customisation removed again
>HMs brought back
>Grid-based movement brought back
>Prof. Oak gives you two starters
>Lucario is now part of the Kanto dex

You know it's true
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>>32647023
sinnoh confirmed????
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>>32647030
pls no
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>>32647023
Do you really think they will announce another Kanto game? I wouldn't mind though but I don't know really.
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>>32647030
This is gonna happen 100%
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>>32647030
>Lucario is now part of the Kanto dex
kek
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>>32647030
It's damn true
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>>32647168
I absolutely do. With the genwun pandering being at an all-time high, I absolutely believe a 3D Kanto is coming our way. I don't have a problem with it, honestly.
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>>32647030
Gotta love that Lucario meme
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>>32647030
>Lucario is now your first starter, the other 3 are now optional
FTFY
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>Gen 1: Kanto
>Gen 2: Kanto postgame
>Gen 3: Kanto remakes
>Gen 4: Kanto postgame remakes
>Gen 5: soft-reboot Kanto wannabe
>Gen 6: all-time high Kanto pandering
>Gen 7: new all-time high Kanto pandering
God fucking hell no. I'm so fucking sick of Kanto. And people on this board wants MORE of it? Fucking no wonder this franchise is such a shitshow now.
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>>32647030
Good. Trainer Customization is shit and should be removed completely.
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>>32647030
>Blue heals your Pokemon before every fight
>The female trainer appears in the game as a second rival
>Spin puzzles simplified
>Strength puzzles simplified
>Unknown Dungeon is just a single room with Mewtwo in the middle
>Safari Zone is like ORAS Safari Zone
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>>32647264
Yeah me neither. Should be fun to visit Kanto in 3D anyway.
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What do the tweets even say?
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>>32647409
>welcome to world of pocket monster
>science is amazing
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>>32647336
>The female trainer appears in the game as a second rival
This would make me actually want these games to be real. Please let this happen.
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Haha! Kanto! -Masuda 2017
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>>32647290

genwun pandering killed the series by chaining it to the originals forever to appease a few vocal fans who stopped paying attention to the series years ago
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>>32647049
Piplup, Lucario and luxray and pikachu
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>>32647428
You fucking waifufag, leave my Pokémon board and interact with real women. But first leave. NOOOOOWWWWWWWWW!!!
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>>32647574
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>>32647336
>Unknown Dungeon is just a single room with Mewtwo in the middle

Damn, do you work for GF? This is exactly the type of shit they'd do.
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>>32647730
Anon...
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>>32647030
>NO
>SAFARI
>ZONE
>BECAUSE
>NOW
>IT IS
>IN
>JOHTO

>GSC virtual console announced
>of course there's no safari zone

Fucking Gamefreak
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>>32647753
Well sure, but that was Kalos. If anything, I'm surprised they didn't copy/paste the Unknown Dungeon for more genwun pandering like they did with Viridian Forest.
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>>32647030
Don't do this to me anon.
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>>32647030
Yeah anon, also now Green is your best friend that heals your pokemon before every fight and when you hit Blue in the elite four she appears in the last moment yo heal your party and give you 5 revives
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>>32649666
Anon, what have you done
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>>32647023

>Lillie went to Kanto at the end of SM
>Becomes a major character in the new Kanto games
>Becomes the first anime girl since Misty to be on the show for more than one gen
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>Blue chooses starter weak to yours
>Upon leaving Pallet Town there's a forced cutscene where Daisy tells you that she wants to help you and gives you the map
>Another forced cutscene where your mother explains a bunch of stuff and gives you your running shoes
>If you try to go to Viridian Forest before facing Blue a second time, some dude blocks your way and keep saying something stupid like "Hey, you should go and check out the Pokemon League! I've heard that's where all the strong trainers go!"
>Catching tutorial is now mandatory and includes a long cutscene
>In Pewter City you get a free Riolu with Force Palm to use against Brock
>Mt. Moon and Rock Tunnel both contain an NPC that heals your team
>Bike is given to you for free immediately when you enter Vermilion City
>A nurse heals your team at SS Anne
>You no longer have to catch a certain amount of Pokemon to get the HM for Flash
>The Prof. Oak's Aide who gives you Flash teleports you back to Cerulean
>All mentions of a dead Marowak removed
>Game Corner removed, Silph Scope removed, generic ghosts removed
>A friendly NPC in Celadon gives you tea immediately when you get there and tells you that you should try sharing it with the thirsty guards
>Fighting Dojo contains no trainers but you still get a free Hitmonchan/Hitmonlee
>Silph Co. is smaller, easier to navigate and no longer requires a Card Key
>Blue heals your team before every battle
>Safari Zone removed, Surf and Strength are given to you for free
>All Gym Leaders and Pokemon League trainers nerfed
>Pokemon Mansion is significantly smaller and doesn't contain any puzzles
>Power Plant and Seafoam Islands have both been replaced with single-room dungeons
>The original badge check route before Victory Road removed
>Victory Road is shorter and has no puzzles
>Cerulean Cave is just copypasted Unknown Dungeon from XY
>Sevii Islands have been replaced with one small post-game island that contains copypasted Battle Tree from SM
Are you ready guys?
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>>32649943
>>All mentions of a dead Marowak removed
>>Game Corner removed, Silph Scope removed, generic ghosts removed
>All Gym Leaders and Pokemon League trainers nerfed
>Cerulean Cave is just copypasted Unknown Dungeon from XY

PLease don't, if for some strange reason we got a remake this year, please make the game the most similar to old one as possible, make an unfair rival thats a dick to you, the original lavander town music, please i'll give you anything
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>>32647030
Sounds f9 friend of m9.
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>>32649943
honestly most of the stuff you mentioned is actually really good
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>>32649943
I should have killed myself years ago.
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>>32649980
Shut up Masuda.
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>>32647023
Virtual consoles in Switch
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>>32649943
>Cerulean Cave doesn't actually exist because Mewtwo is forcibly integrated into the game's storyline and is fought (and caught with a 45 Catchrate) following Giovanni's Defeat because as the chosen one, your mere presence has shown Mewtwo there is someone worthy of commanding it
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>>32647763
that would've been too complex for the average pokemon player
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>>32649943

why would they do that? also, it's going to be remake with timeskip [because of older blue and red] so you know, there will be radio tower and shit, but let's hope that they will place ghost tower somewhere in lavender and won't nerf many places
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>>32647030
don't forget:

every pokemon battle is made significantly easier because of the "enemy trainers cannot have more than 1 pokemon and they must be 10 levels lower than normal even though we gave the player an insanely broken EXP share" rule.


seriously the exp share should have lead to balance changes where enemies have more pokemon... instead they just kept lowering the difficulty curve until playing the game makes you want to fall asleep
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>>32652011
That image clearly shows that ORAS Wattson was buffed.
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>>32652011
>>32652037
>gym leader goes out of his way to delete moves on his pokemon without replacing them

thank you neo-gamefreak. makes perfect sense
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>>32652043
Are those movesets actually pulled from in-game data or are they just from observation? Bulbapedo isn't exactly reliable when it comes to stuff like this, it could just be that Wattson never used his fourth move against anyone in battle.
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>>32647290
Nice stretching, this is literally you.
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>>32649943
>>Pokemon Mansion is significantly smaller and doesn't contain any puzzles

Uhh, what are you referring to? It doesn't have any puzzles for them to remove. Is exploring a glorified hallway for an item really a "puzzle" to you?
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>>32652043
>Magnemite now has a better ability and much stronger STAB
>Voltorb will no longer kill itself
>Magneton now not only has a second STAB, but a much better move for it's first one
The only sin is him not having any Hoenn mons.
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>>32652053
pulled
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>>32649980
if this isn't bait, you aren't a true pokemon fan.
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>>32652127
>their levels got decreased significantly
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>>32652126
have you ever actually played red/blue?

Because it sounds like you've never been in the pokemon manison before.
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>>32652127
>voltorb having self destruct is a bad thing
>ignores the giant nerf to levels
>thinking that less move options is a "buff"
>thinking soundproof is a better ability than static in the early game

I can't tell if you are trolling or if you are mentally retarded
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>>32647753
this was the all time gayest thing gamefreak did. in what should have been the hardest cave in the game to catch the ultimate pokemon with tons of puzzles and insanely high level battles its literally just mewtwo standing in a 1 room cave when you get in
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>>32652145
>voltorb having self destruct is a bad thing
Post gen5 it is
>ignores the giant nerf to levels
This is due to the various other buffs
>thinking that less move options is a "buff"
Because sonicboom is so terrifying
>thinking soundproof is a better ability than static in the early game
Where did I say anything about Voltorb's ability you absolute mong?
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>>32647023
I'm lost. Is it a re-do of the old games or what?
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>>32652170
if you seriously think they "buffed" wattson then you are the fucking moron
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>>32647290

Unless you count HG/SS we still haven't had physical special split kanto.

I'd pay 39.99 +tip for that
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>>32652184
dont worry. that guy is an idiot. you're in the clear anon.
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>>32652184
>Magnemite has an attack with more than 40 BP
They objectively did.
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>>32652190
>is level 19
>old one was level 22 and wasn't missing an attack

stop. if we battled and i had the level 22 magnemite with supersonic, sonicboom, thunderwave, and thundershock and you had the level 19 magnemite with thunderwave volt switch (literally almost the exact same bp as thundershock) and FUCKING TACKLE you would easily get blown out.

the level difference is HUGE in the early game, stop defending gamefreak for making their games considerably easier
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>>32652099
>persona5.jpg
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>>32652222
>volt switch (literally almost the exact same bp as thundershock)
Haha wow, you are legitimately retarded aren't you?
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>>32649943
>A nurse heals your team at SS Anne

This already exists in RBY and in FRLG
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>>32649943
>Upon leaving Pallet Town there's a forced cutscene where Daisy tells you that she wants to help you and gives you the map
>Another forced cutscene where your mother explains a bunch of stuff and gives you your running shoes
>Catching tutorial is now mandatory and includes a long cutscene
>Silph Co. is smaller, easier to navigate and no longer requires a Card Key
>All Gym Leaders and Pokemon League trainers nerfed
>Sevii Islands have been replaced with one small post-game island that contains copypasted Battle Tree from SM
I could see them doing these


>A friendly NPC in Celadon gives you tea immediately when you get there and tells you that you should try sharing it with the thirsty guards
>Victory Road has no puzzles
That would improve the game so probably wouldn't happen
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>>32651994
>Johto postgame Kanto
Oh god please no, the only way they could save this is if you could battle Gold
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>>32649943
>Upon leaving Pallet Town there's a forced cutscene where Daisy tells you that she wants to help you and gives you the map
Why is this supposed to be a bad thing?
>Another forced cutscene where your mother explains a bunch of stuff and gives you your running shoes
You mean like in most games since their introduction? I wish this happened in FRLG so you didn't have to beat Brock before getting them.
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>>32652304
>Why is this supposed to be a bad thing?
One of the things Kanto does right is the lack of cockblocking, the rival's dialogue already gives you a clue about the map so there is no need to stop the player for that
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>>32652390
It's just a map, what's the big deal?
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>>32652410
It breaks the flow, when you reach a new area you want to explore and adventure, the more often it happens more annoying it gets

see:Black/White
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>>32652448
>when you reach a new area
But the map would be given before you reach a new area.
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>>32647705

There's a Luxray Plush included...more Gen 4 Pokemon in the movie.............hmmmmm......
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>>32652459
Yeah but its still annoying
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>>32647030
made me die a little on the inside, here's (you)'re guaranteed reply
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>>32652224
Not gonna lie I lost It. Thanks anon
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>>32647030
Gamefreak is stupid but not this stupid. Usually...
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>>32652465
Not for the kids the game is aimed at who would otherwise miss out on getting the map.
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>>32647030
>Customisation removed again
>HMs brought back
Literally anything but these Gamefreak. I would rather just play SM in this case unless It's on the switch and the story is driven by ultra-beasts and the fallers On the other other hand If they did the same shit with Sinnoh I'd actually play it because It wouldn't be painfully slow like dppl and Dawn. Also reminder Game Corner is a lost cause because Europoor exists and literally can't happen
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>>32649943
The more streamlined they make it, the better.
Anything to get over Kanto quick and back to doing somethig that's not shit.
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>plays like yellow except instead of pikachu starter it's riolu
>every time you get one of the starters you get the mega stone for it too
>free ash greninja
>if you lose to jessie and james the battle restarts
>blue's eevee turns into sylveon
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>>32652222
Volt Switch from the level 19 Magnemite would deal 22.4-26.5% damage to the level 22 Magnemite. Thundershock from the latter would be 20.4-25%.

Don't get me wrong, overall the game was definitely made easier, but in a vacuum, the fight isn't that much easier. The levels are lower, yes, but that's because the EXP gained on the way there has also changed.

Of course all that goes out of the window the second the EXP. Share is introduced, but that's a separate issue.
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>>32647277
>You get Lucario the same way you get Pikachu in Yellow
>It starts off as a Riolu
>It's purely done to introduce the mechanic of pokemon evolving mid-battle so you have a Lucario from the get-go.
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>>32649943
this shit is too plausible to laugh at

this is just outright scary
dont give them ideas
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dont forget the "postgame", the Origin-Episode, which is a bunch of NPC dialogues that hold your hand through a severely nerfed Unknown dungeon, make you catch a Mew with a nerfed catchrate that can Mega evolve without a stone, and then be forced to battle Mewtwo right after without the option to save the game between the fights.
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>>32652165
Why is this such a big deal? I always hated caves, Unknown Dungeon (and Mt. Coronet) especially, with all the Flash/Strength BS ensuring I had to waste a slot for shit HMs. Just a long slog through Zubats and Geodudes, and the Unknown Dungeon is no different, except it's a long slog through Golbats and really fast lvl 60+ Kadabras that you can't run from, in the generation where Psychic murdered everything. The only reason anyone ever went in the Unknown Dungeon is to catch Mewtwo anyway.
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>>32652262
You're remembering wrong, mate. Played it recently, you have to walk all the way back to Vermillion to heal your dying rodents. Probably why Blue's never made it
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>>32652908
No you don't, there's a passenger in one of the rooms that will let you rest and heal.
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>>32652491
>be too stupid to explore and adventure
>miss out on content and rewards

I see nothing wrong with this.
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>>32652891
>being so butthurt about the Unknown Dungeon kicking his ass that he wants it removed for everyone else too
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>>32652910
only in gen 3. she wasn't there in RBY
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>>32652011
I played XY, ORAS and SM with exp share off

I was never once overleveled against a gym leader/rival/important fight

XY and SM did this way better than ORAS though, which is unexplicably easy anyway. But not cause of overleveling, that's your fault anon
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>>32647336
>Safari Zone is like ORAS Safari Zone
Eat a dick, Safari Zone was always shit.
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>>32649943
>Pokemon Mansion is significantly smaller and doesn't contain any puzzles
Perfect place to put the Battle Mansion actually, thank you for you contribution.
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>>32652949
But she was.
Either that or Tangela Effect
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>>32647023

I'm actually at wits end with the Kanto pandering, if they do another Kanto game I'll prob drop the series, already dropped Pokemon Sun after 2 playthroughs...
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>>32649726
>Use her over Leaf/Green
>Leaf/Green is STILL not canon
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Oak's Aid gives you EXP share after the first battle with Red.
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>>32653065
Im playing blue on the VC right now, and no, she isn't
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>>32649943
>Mt. Moon and Rock Tunnel both contain an NPC that heals your team
What's the fucking point? Mt. Moon is small as fuck and has a very deliberately placed PokeCenter right next to it
Rock Tunnel is a straight line with a couple trainers along the way, again with a PokeCenter right in front of the entrance, the way it's designed makes Flash completely optional even for retard kids
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>>32649943
>>32647030
Kanto is my least favourite, but even I wouldn't wish this done to it.
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>>32647705
>Banpresto
Make a goddamn SRW style Pokemon game, pls
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>>32647290
Gen 5 is stretching. BW are the only certified Kanto-free(tm) games
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>>32647023
>>32647030
No more
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>>32647030
They're not going to remove the freaking ROCKET Game Corner.
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>>32647756
What? Both Kanto and Johto have Safari Zones.
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>>32654149
They'd have to replace it with something, because we can't have Slot Machines in our games anymore. They """""promote gambling habits"""""
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the pokemon japanese twitter is a fucking gold mine of reaction images
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>>32654193
Korean DPPt replaced the slot machines with Game Machines that drop 5~20 coins daily, which European Platinum then adopted. They could do the same thing here.
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>>32647290
Gen 5 is the only first gen free but otherwise I agree with you. It's time to stop
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>>32654196
>your tears are delicious
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>>32647409
Nothing really
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>>32654149
>>32654193
Easy. It closed down, you get the key for it somewhere. When you're inside, everything related to gambling is replaced by Rocket stuff. A vault of sorts that still has the name Game Corner as the normie Celadon audience doesn't know it's still being used.
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>>32654196
someone please shop owlfag tears onto that bottle
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>>32654225
See >>32654201
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>>32654225
I like this idea. I'd like to see a continuation of Kanto rather than another remake. Something that actually takes place in the "future"
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>>32653065
You're probably thinking of GS, where you could rest on your bed.
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>>32654248
>Something that actually takes place in the "future"
It's not like Gold and Silver were announced as SEQUELS to Red and Green that are set 3 years in the future or anything.
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>>32654193
They could easily replace it with a shady electronics shop that sells Porygon and Porygon accessories.
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>>32654293
Or they could redo what they did already >>32654201
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>>32647336
>all these things aren't legitimately bad if you're not a flaming autist
And I highly doubt they'd have Blue heal your shit before battle, maybe after at best
And having Green in the game would be fucking based too
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>>32654088
>>32654207
Gen 5 Dex was literally an imitation znd rip off of the original 151.
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>>32649943
>>You no longer have to catch a certain amount of Pokemon to get the HM for Flash

I could get behind this, having to get 60 dex entries to get key items and post game access makes me hate replaying FR a little.
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>>32654088
>>32654207
It's literally a shitty rom hack esque attempt to copy gen 1 that failed horribly
Sure it's original but in all the wrong ways
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>>32647336
Why do people complain about the lack of the Safari Game in ORAS? The Safari Zone should be an area with regular wild battles.

>>32654310
I hope they don't forget Green, she deserves some recognition ;~;
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>>32654156
>johto
>safari zone
Here's the underage who only played HG/SS.
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>>32654322
>he doesn't capture pokemon regardless of how many times he's filled the dex

why even play pokemon
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>>32654331
>Kanto AND Johto
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>>32652891
> The only reason anyone ever went in the Unknown Dungeon is to catch Mewtwo anyway


>rare wild pokemons
>high lvl wild pokemons
>hidden items

to be honest you're a part of the reason why pokemon gets worse
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>>32649943
>>The original badge check route

god damn i miss this feature, with the music it was awesome, you really had the feeling you were getting to something difficult
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>>32652908
>>32652910
You have to interact with the bed in one of the rooms stupid idiots
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>>32653160

You played it twice? I barely did once
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>>32649578
my brain automatically read this in Stanley's monotone
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>>32654229
I completely forgot about the Korean Game Corner. That makes more sense, to do it like that. No need to change the story that way too.
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>>32654579
When PEGI changed their rules to crack down on gambling, Nintendo of Europe decided to reuse the Korean Sinnoh Game Corner for Platinum, heh. Most if not all references to gambling were removed as well.
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>>32647336
>female trainer appears
>it isn't Leaf
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>>32654616
Because Lillie is Blue/Green. Expect Lillie in the new Red and Green remakes.
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>>32649943
>>All mentions of a dead Marowak removed
Thank god that shit is cancer

LOL HOW DO QBONE BREED IF MOM DED? ECKE DEE DEE EHL IM EY OH
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>>32654654
>>>/b/
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>>32652011
>Every new version has the same or better attacks
>Removed shitty Sonicboom so the AI can't tard out and use it
>Changed shitty Selfdestruct so the AI doesn't idiotically kill itself
>ENTIRE TEAM IS VOLT SWITCH FUUUUUCK
>Starting Magnemite is a massive asshole that can't be one-shot and WILL T-wave your bitch ass directly into outspeeding you with a Volt Switch. If the AI is smart, it can drop into Magneton and check your phys or special defs or confuse you.

Tell me again how this is a NERF?
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>>32647290
>kanto postgame
Stop

>>32647525
>stopped caring
>fans
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>>32649943
pls no
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>>32654193
what if voltorb flip came back?
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>>32655460
Not happening. See >>32654201 for what is most likely due to its minimum disruption.
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Will they keep the hidden Lava Cookie that is detected by the Dowsing Machine, lads?

>CAPTCHA: "CARRIAGE Misty"
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>>32655702
If the mandatory cutscene that plays every time you revisit the SS Anne gives you enough freedom of movement to explore then maybe
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>>32655736
The S.S. Anne is not the only ship that goes to Vermilion Harbor, Anon. The Seagallop takes you to the Sevii Islands.

And the mandatory cutscene thing is a meme.
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Will you get the bike by exchanging the voucher at Miracle Cycle or would that be too hard for modern Game Freak?
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>>32654156
there's no safari zone in GSC
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>>32656043
But there is, it's just officially closed and technically it's unused because they never completed it. It's still the Kanto one in Fuchsia though.
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>>32656029
You will, but the Pokemon Fan Club chairman will personally walk you to Miracle Cycle after giving you the voucher.
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>>32647030
>>32647336
>>32649943
>>32652539

>People seriously fearing that every remake after ORAS will be the exact same as ORAS
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>>32656054
everyone knows, what's your point? that they would complete it for the VC release? please don't make me laugh
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>>32649726
Lillie is my favourite pokemon character so I'd actually love this. In hindsight it actually seems like they were setting this up with S/M's ending like you mentioned, and most importantly, it means we'll actually get a newer, "future" Kanto, rather than just getting Red's journey retold to use for like the fifth time.
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>>32656216
Of course they're not going to complete it. But what I said is nonetheless correct. There is a Safari Zone in Kanto and another in Johto.
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>>32649943
>A nurse heals your team at SS Anne
That was always there, except it was a dude in a suit. Or was that just in FR/LG?
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>>32656226
>it means we'll actually get a newer, "future" Kanto, rather than just getting Red's journey retold to use for like the fifth time
You're really naïve, aren't you?
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>>32656234
There's no healing NPC in RGBY. A lady does that there in FRLG, yes.
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>>32656227
that anon meant as a feature not as an unused location dumbfuck
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>>32656267
Jesus Christ, learn to read before barging in on a random conversation.
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>>32656240
If Lillie is in Kanto, that means the new game would share the same continuity as SM, which older Red and Blue appeared in. They literally cannot make Red the player character again AND have Lillie appear.
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>>32656290
Multiple universes, yo.
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>>32652037
>lower level
>less moves
>worse moves
In literally what fucking way was ORAS Wattson buffed?
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>>32652170
>Because sonicboom is so terrifying
Around level 20 where the most hp your mons have is about 50, meaning each of Wattson's pokemon can guaranteed three-shot all of your pokemon, while two-shotting most of them? Yeah it's pretty terrifying.
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>>32647182
BUM BU BU BUM BU BU BUM BU BU BUM BUUUUUUUUUUUM
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>>32653160
>dropped Pokemon Sun after 2 playthroughs
What does this even mean? The vast majority of people (who loved it) stopped playing after just one playthrough. If you were invested enough to play it twice then it must mean you really liked it, fag.
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>>32656284
>GSC virtual console announced
>of course there's no safari zone
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New Kanto to exclusive variants of non-native to Kanto Pokemon from Unova, Kalos, and Alola.

Who do you want given Gen 1 aesthetics?
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>>32649943
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>>32656339
What exactly is noteworthy in that?
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>>32649726
What if they finally drop Ashnime, and we follow Leaf, who has Lillie as a gal pal travel companion along with some coolkid boy?
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>>32649943
>Upon leaving Pallet Town there's a forced cutscene where Daisy tells you that she wants to help you and gives you the map
Regardless, this IS happening if Kanto remakes occur. Period. There is no avoiding it.
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>>32649943
>Power Plant... has been replaced with single-room dungeons
This occurred in HGSS.
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>>32656709
In FireRed and LeafGreen, the girl outside Red's house (if boy) or Blue/Green's house (if girl) in Pallet Town also teaches you how to read signposts. She's not forced on you at first, though.
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>>32650123
Shoot, you're totally right, and it pains my soul to here it
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>>32656720
Since the Power Plant was like that in GSC.
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>>32652043
Forces the game to use the better moves.
Which is why some in maison were single move choice
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>>32649943
>neo/vp/ will defend this
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>>32652126
You had to think to fall in the floor at the right position. That was a puzzle. Also switches.
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>>32656738
sure GF apologist
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>>32652917
Personally I agree. I played the games specifically to explore and the fact that not only pokemon, but also most franchises, have stopped catering to that frustrates me to no end.
Can you even think of another game series that did things like the regi puzzles and ruins of alph? Big mysterious complexes with ancient mysteries and lore protected by puzzles and riddles?
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>>32653065
Tangela Effect?
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>>32652891
Because it was an fucking achievment you mong.

The reason legendaries exist in the first place isn't because of look at mythology, muh goddes or whatever shit. Legendaries pokemon were just normal Pokemon who were rare as fuck. And to get them you need to actually explore the fucking region.

Let's look back at fucking kanto:
>you only see the icon of moltress now find the path
>after getting surf and you suddenly realize that before the dark cave there is a river, go there boom a whole new place with a legendary hidden
>chillinh into the two islands(which name I forgot) maybe there is a rare pokemon boom articuno

For fucks sake, getting legendaries was meant to be searching. But in gen 4 and since 6 they just thought nah bro fuck that because everyone don't habe the fucking patience
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>>32647290
>postgame
>credits roll again after finishing the "postgame"
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>>32656842
>he never played GSC and/or HGSS
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>>32654201
Then why did we get that awful voltorb flip?
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>>32653065
>Tangela Effect
kek. this made my day.
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>>32654276
Sure, now we can go another 3 years.

Thus far everything's either been simultaneous with gen1 or simultaneous with gen2, except for the alt universe mega stuff that nobody knows where it goes.
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>>32656858
Everyone outside Japan got Voltorb Flip, even South Korea, which got HGSS after Japan and before us Westerners.

Since the altered Game Corners are in Japanese HGSS but unused, it seems that GF simply decided to test a replacement. People disliked it so they probably went ahead and canned the whole thing.
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>>32656874
>canned the whole thing
In BW and later games, that is.
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>>32656870
red 2 and green 2 = gold and silver
red 3 and green 3 = gold 2 and silver 2
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>>32647030
>>Kanto with no Game Corner
Horrible
>>Customisation removed again
Good in a remake
>>HMs brought back
Good
>>Grid-based movement brought back
Meh. I wish no-grid 3ds ow looked better. ORAS still looks better than SM.
>>Prof. Oak gives you two starters
Nah
>>Lucario is now part of the Kanto dex
Neutral since it's optional.
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We will get stars with kanto visiting. But damn I don't want to replay kanto with this shit pokemon models.

But well then I will play, bw2 and blue now with bulbasaur and rhen kanto remake again
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>>32656809
It's a wordplay on Mandela Effect, which is a popular theory that there are different timelines where some things have happened differently. The theory was named after Mandela because apparently there are a lot of people around the world who clearly remember that Nelson Mandela died in prison long before he actually died, and the people who believe in Mandela Effect are basically saying that this indeed happened but only in their timeline. The theory has later expanded to numerous different things and usually involves a large number of people having false memories relating to something from their childhood (such as names of certain books or TV shows etc.)
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>>32654386
>to be honest you're a part of the reason why pokemon gets worse

>Hating challenging adventures and exploring every nook and cranny
You achievers and killers aren't happy until you ruin literally everybody's fun are you?
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>>32656056
In fact, he's standing outside the bike shop, walks you to the fan club, blathering about his horse, gives you the voucher, then walks back.
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>>32656912
Berenstein bears effect
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>>32656168
Why not? The last three games have been, and getting increasingly so as things have gone.
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>>32656056
>>32656969
You guys are aware that there's a boy who guides you to Pewter Gym even in Red and Green, right?

Also, I hope that they don't censor Miracle Cycle yet again outside Japan.
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>>32656335
I have no other games.
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>>32652497
Fault isn't of european, anon.
Pegi exists and that's good.
If anything, be mad at those jews who would never rise pokemon's pegi to 12 and put back the gc.
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>>32656723
She will be now!
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>>32657004
The Game Corner in European Platinum is the same one from Korean DP, which were released prior.

And I don't get what you're saying. RBY on the 3DS VC are PEGI 12 and kept the Game Corner intact.
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>>32657023
So why you think they won't adopt the same solution for another hypotetical RBG remake?
Europe?
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>>32657133
But I do think they'll reuse the Korean DP way, Anon. It's the simplest one because it doesn't force Game Freak to make yuge changes.
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>>32656335
I did 1 normal playthrough and 1 nuzlocke, you got a problem?

Why are there so many idiots on here? "Durr look at my guys! I was rude to someone, I'm so funny! XD"
Go play in traffic.
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>>32657281
Wow, somebody is either 12 or a bad troll.
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>>32656314
>Volt Switch is worse than Thundershock
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>>32647428
Eh, if they cuck you like Gary did then no thanks.
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>>32657598
Explain.
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>>32647023
I'd really like to see them do a mirror of GSC, and have a Johto post game. That would be cool. But I doubt we'll ever see another multi region game again.
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>>32649943
>Upon leaving Pallet Town there's a forced cutscene where Daisy tells you that she wants to help you and gives you the map
>Another forced cutscene where your mother explains a bunch of stuff and gives you your running shoes
>Bike is given to you for free immediately when you enter Vermilion City
>You no longer have to catch a certain amount of Pokemon to get the HM for Flash

Those are fine
I would argue that the free drink to share with the guards is fine too, but whatever
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>>32656985
>You guys are aware that there's a boy who guides you to Pewter Gym even in Red and Green, right?

You are aware that Red and Green were the first ever pokemon games? It would've been easy for people to skip the gym, by virtue of not realizing what the gyms were.

I know that gamefreak caters their new generation of games to young kids, but that's no excuse for them nerfing the games to the point where you're constantly being spoon-feed what to do. A 7 year old kid picking up his first copy of pokemon today is already going to know the basic idea of the game. A 7 year old in 1996 would've had no idea.

The minimal amount of guidance in the first few gens was perfect.
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>>32654697
These people thing
Less=easier
More=harder
They see that ORAS gyms have less moves than RSE and have lower levels (and my optional EXP share boogieman) and leave it at that.
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>>32652539
>Using megas
>Using Ash-Greninja
>Not saving before the fight and resetting your game when you lose like everyone does
Wow. What a nonproblem.
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>>32649943
>>You no longer have to catch a certain amount of Pokemon to get the HM for Flash
You say like making HMs less bullshit is a badthing, instead of HMs being brought back being the bad thing.
>>
>Kanto with no team rocket (assuming its a sm sequel)

Pref dppt remake with cyrus and galactic plot, which could be a cool way to mix up the distortion world with the ultrabeasts and faller energy.

Though would like to see what happened to Lillie and her psycho mom.
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>>32660228
>A 7 year old kid picking up his first copy of pokemon today is already going to know the basic idea of the game. A 7 year old in 1996 would've had no idea.

Which is heavier? 100 lbs of feathers or 100 lbs of steel?

A 7 year old in any year who has never played Pokemon and is picking up their first copy isn't going to know shit about the game because they've never played it.
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>>32660913
>Which is heavier? 100 lbs of feathers or 100 lbs of steel?
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>>32660913
>>32661070
For all intents and purposes, the steel will be heavier because air resistance will reduce the effective weight of the feathers in all scenarios except ones specifically set up to prevent that from happening.
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It could be interesting if GF did a Pokémon Echoes: Shadows of Kanto bringing back everything that made Gen 1 unique.
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>new Red/Blue remakes add a female option again
>the new protag it's just slight based on Leaf
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>>32649943
>Blue heals your team before every battle
that's kind of bad-ass, like he wants you to be at your best when you fight him
>>
I'm not going to lie, a Kanto re-remake with the 3ds's engine would just be hnnnng, have a feeling it'll be ez as fug though.
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>>32649943
Theres people that bothered getting the HM for flash?
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>>32663559
>Game Center CX Pokemon episode
>Arino gets the HM
>forgets all about it
>trucks through Rock Tunnel without Flash
>complains about not having Flash after he's done
I love him
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>>32647023
Cant wait to see kanto forms for gen1 Pokémon!
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>>32663643
As if they needed them.
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>>32647428
why not just commit suicide?
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>>32647030
>>Lucario is now part of the Kanto dex
That made me giggle
>>
Damn I just realized everything is a big ad for the movie, that is another ad for the game.

In the magikarp game, you pick the magikarp by clicking the "I choose you!" button. "I choose you" is used as a subtitle in the movie.

In the SM anime, the ending lyrics says first "Ossu mirai no champion!" that is from first gen as shown in the recent tweet. Later in the lyrics the dude says "Kimi ni kimete hontoni yokatta" -> I'm really glad I chose you.
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>>32666058
Touche
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>>32654261
I might have confused it with Silph Co
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>>32666151
IT ALL COMES TOGETHER!
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>>32647030
>HMs brought back
HMs aren't good, but I really don't see why they're considered this horrible thing. It's usually a minor inconvenience at best, depending on the game.
>Cut
Not used that often, just keep some slave around since you shouldn't have 6 mons so early anyway, box it when you get that sixth mon. You shouldn't need Cut after the 4th gym when you get Fly.
>Surf
Actually good move, no problem with this. Several non-water types get it too.
>Fly
Can't really defend, in Kanto only flying types get this. I prefer Soaring from ORAS to the rental shit from SM. At least it doesn't feel as hollow.
>Strength
It's an okay move but not as useful as Surf, can't defend.
>Flash
See Cut.

>Grid-based movement brought back
Do you also refuse to play the older games?
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>>32654310
Green is your rival, dumbshit. Fucking burgers..
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>>32667150
>gary
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>>32667154
Red is the male player, Blue (Japan) / Green (West) is the female player, Green (Japan) / Blue (West) is the rival.

This isn't rocket science.
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>>32649943
The dead marowak thing would stay in. Hell in SM there was a guy that got mangled in a car accident trying to save his machamp.
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>>32649963
Why would you want to play the SAME game for the THIRD time?
Sequel or nothing. I don't give a fuck about a remake. Don't want to play the same game again.
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>>32647030
Grid based movement is good and fine though
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>Red 2 Green 2
>Mew is actually under a truck
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We're returning to Kanto.

Once you complete the main campaign instead of heading to Johto you travel north to those unmapped mountains which lead you into Sinnoh.

And instead of travelling to the Sevii Islands those have been replaced by Alola.

Source: My friends 2nd cousins uncle works for GameFreak.
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>>32667560
>unmapped mountains
Sinjoh Ruins exist.
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>>32647428
If she appears then the game would be saved
Easily best pokegirl
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>>32649666
My god, what have you done?
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>>32669304
The Sinjoh Ruins is the only thing there though.

I really want to believe that it's the connecting area between Sinnoh and Kanto.

Imagine if it was remade but instead of a single temple it was an old archaic town with broken buildings and the temple at the very top of the area.
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>>32669482
The Sinjoh (Sinnoh + Johto) Ruins are to the north of the Ice Path.
>>
>finish main campaign
>johto and battle frontier open up as postgame
>entire region open, but there is something of a sub-campaign going on kind of like the delta episode

Alternatively:
>16 badges from both kanto and johto are required by default to challenge the league
>johto opens when team rocket is defeated in kanto
>johto gyms can be beaten in any order, with levels scaling to how many gyms have been beaten in that region
>frontier opens when you beat the champion
>title defense like Sun and Moon

thoughts?
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>>32647023
I don't understand moon scribbles.
What am I supposed to be getting from this?
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>>32671033
It's just some posts about memorable dialogue in the series, with Oak's "Welcome to the world of Pokemon!" and the fat guy's "Science's power is amazing!"
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op here
here's another btw
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>>32647168
well, the last Kanto-game was FRLG.... and even if you count HGSS, those two were part of gen4
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>>32669304
>Sinjoh Ruins
what does sinjoh mean?
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>>32667522
>Red 2 Green 2
>>>/get/ >>>/out/
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>>32671720
Sinnoh and johto
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>>32671703
YO CHAMP IN MAKING
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>>32649666
Chill satan
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>>32670899
Kinda how I feel GSC should have gone.
Or maybe original RGBY was going to before they split it into two games.
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>>32671713
The last sinnoh game was platinum, so what?
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>>32647293
>i like fighting my clones on the internet
spoken like a true faggot who plays pokemon for the story
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Instead of crying how Gamefreak will butcher it how would YOU improve it?

For me:

>Hard Mode and Champion Mode, incease AI, level, give them good movesets, you can't use items during battle in these modes, Red is the final Champion in these modes

>Huge Safari zone that offers a big variety of Pokemon from all gens

>Sevii Islands + a new Sevii Island that offers some kind of Battle Zone like in Emerald

>Item for classic GB themes

>Trainer customisation

>Access to Legendaries from all genes packed in interessting puzzles

>new moves

>try to improve shittier pokemon with abilities and statchanges

>Flygon Mega
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>>32672169
What is this webm?
>>
>>32672455
How the Police handled the London Bridge attacks
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>>32672455
Suspect is a scary nigger armed with a white plastic spoon. Too much for the poor mates at the London police department to handle I´m afraid.

>This used to be an empire at some point
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>>32647030
>jynx is now blue
>have to pay 5 bucks to get transfer pokemon
>have to pay for online if it's on switch
>/vp/ will eat it up
You know it's true
>>
>>32652011
Why not show his skillsets from Emerald? Because it doesn't fit your narrative?
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>>32667350
because it wouldn't be the same game you fuck.
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>>32672129
This is just for Magikarp Jump
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>>32647290
underage fag
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>>32647030
>not listing Mega Charizard Z and Mega Mewtwo Z
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If they really do a Kanto sequel I hope we at least get something like pic related. It would make the region a lot less boring.
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>>32647023
I'm selling my switch, 3ds and wii u if they announce this tomorrow
>>
ITT people who defend the useless backtracking in gen1 but also praise SM for removing HMs
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>>32675920
didn´t gen1 had only backtracking after 3rd badge? And maybe going to Saffron and then go further? Also it was cool that you could do bagde 5-7 in any order you want. But after beating Koga you could just through the islands where articuno is to pyro, from there to giovanni and from there straight to the league.
>>
What would they have as the starters? We only recently had the Kanto starters in XY and in Pokémon Go. I can't bare to see their ugly 3D models in another playthrough.

>Inb4 Kanto form of gen 7 starters
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>>32660913
>implying that today's 7 year old has lived under a rock and never heard of pokemon, never watched a single tv episode or a cancerous let's play video.

I highly doubt that a kid picking up his first pokemon game today has zero background knowledge. kys.
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>>32675936
You can do badges 3-7 in any order, anon. You only need to have beaten Koga before you can fight Blaine.
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>>32675999
oh really? even better then. I kinda miss this sense of freedom.
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>>32675981
Obviously they would have the gen 1 starters. This isn't some dev that listens to their dedicated fans and makes improvements and positive changes to their games with each new iteration, this is Game Freak. Shit, I wouldn't even be surprised if they didn't give you a choice of starters and just gave you Charizard instead. A level 5 charizard, not charmander. Just charizard.
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>>32675981
>Kanto starters in XY
>Kanto starters in GO
>Kanto starters in RBY VC
>Kanto starters in the next games
This is the future you chose
>>
>>32675988
Have you talked to any 7 year olds recently? I had an internship last year where I taught a group of 5-9 year olds. They are not smart, they don't pay attention to things. The only ones that knew that pokemon exists basically just had some trading cards and barely knew the names of anything beyond fucking Charizard
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>>32675981
Charmander, Piplup and Rowlet
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>>32649943
This post is too real.
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>>32672169
Assuming it's a sequel of some sort:
A Mega for every gen 1 line.
An expanded dex to include newer mons.
Maybe even Kanto forms.
Please don't make me choose a Kanto starter for the 5th time.
Upgraded Sevii Islands. Alternatively, Alola post-game with new battle facilities.
PokéRide.
Customisation.
Gym upgrades.
>>
>>32647030
>Lucario is now part of the Kanto dex

This always makes me laugh.
>>
>>32675936

Yeah, you're right. I guess my point is that it's stupid to get upset over little things that aren't a challenge and are more in place to pad time or annoy you. E.g. healing before a Blue fight after a long cave or finding a healer mid-cave. If you make it to the end and end up losing / white out, it just seems like a cheap way to punish the player. Similar to replaying through a route just because I didn't have someone with Cut the first time.
>>
>>32676148
yeah actually I replayed blue last week a little bit, got until casino with 4 badges and venusaur level 36.
Game was really hard sometimes, because I mostly leveled up the -saur line and literally everywhere there were a threat against it. Rival had flying type, psych(which is the most op thing ingame) and fire against me. Also whole caves are filled with bats and rocket also mostly has bats.

Also if you really forget some potions you could easily loose. Also saur line has kinda shit movepool when it comes to level up or tms.
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>>32675981
bird starters only please
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>>32661070
>>32661092
of course steel

Steel is just steel

But feathers also carry unspeakable violence needed to extract them from birds
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>>32654226
Best I could do desu
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>>32653065
>Tangela effect

Clever.
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