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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersSun&MoonSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Newfag Airing/Viewing Order Guide for XY:
http://pastebin.com/anb9qe55

>Trailer for upcoming events
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okLq9SfVJFk

>Movie 20: Pocket Monsters the Movie: I Choose You! [July 15th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be-zA7-lr_k

Next episode:
>SM15 - Scratchmark Hill, Iwanko and Lugarugan!! [Feb 23rd]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_sunmoon/episodes/

Upcoming episodes:
>SM16 - A Tiny Trio on a Big Adventure!! [Mar 2nd]
>SM17 - Alola Detective Rotom! The Mystery of the Lost Crystal!! [Mar 9th]

Shit people will ask:
>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z and SM. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>31768108
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SM14 RAWS:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=897634

SM13 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_Sun_&_Moon_013_The_Great_Alola_Pancake_Race![H264_720P][61420AC0].mkv.torrent

XY&Z38 POKÉTV SEGMENT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_038_Kalos_League_Victory!_Satoshi's_Ultimate_Match!!_PokeTV_segment[H264_720P][FC32602B].mkv.torrent

XY&Z47 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_047_No_End_to_the_Zeros!_Till_the_Day_We_Meet_Again!![H264_720P][EB1C0BCC].mkv.torrent

XY&Z SPECIAL 1 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_Special_-_The_Legend_of_XYZ![H264_720P][A2FE050C].mkv.torrent

XY&Z SPECIAL 2 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=869085

MOVIE 19 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=882608

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS SUN & MOON 15 - SCRATCHMARK HILL, IWANKO AND LUGARUGAN!! (FEBRUARY 23RD)
>When Satoshi returned home one night, Iwanko, who had been watching the house, has been injured! He and Professor Kukui were surprised by this, and decided to set up a surveillance camera to observe Iwanko in order to check what Iwanko does while they aren't at home. As they excitedly watched, Iwanko actually left the house and went off somewhere, and when they ran after it, they found...?!
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 71 (Feb 19th)

SM16 - A Tiny Trio on a Big Adventure!! (Mar 2nd)
>Satoshi and his friends are playing with their Pokémon on the beach. But when Mokuroh and Ashimari have fun by entering a balloon together, the balloon suddenly gets blown off somewhere with the two of them still inside. A wild Nyabby then appears before the lost duo. They somehow make it take them back to where they came from, but...

SM17 - Alola Detective Rotom! The Mystery of the Lost Crystal!! (Mar 9th)
>When Satoshi arrives at the Pokémon School, he notices that his Electric-Z has gone missing. Rotom approaches the panicking Satoshi, offering to help search for it. Rotom is crazy about crime shows, and says it wants to solve a mystery just like a detective does.

POKÉMON XY&Z CHARACTER SONG PROJECT COLLECTION VOL 2:
http://www53.zippyshare.com/v/6lUViAS6/file.html

ALOLA!:
https://mega.nz/#!EAcUCTrZ!pVFBHejs9JcUzK7M1YE2oQ_ns753N5O0ldYFfHW_ra0

POSE:
https://mega.nz/#!TlYTBZ5A!kZi8TzDkFIHwsU10_0PuZrVDoymIGjuPWWg0XcXxDws
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Could JoJo references save SM?
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Dawn best girl.
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>Will Lillie win da Ash?
SATOSHI GETTO DAZE!
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>>31777589
>>31777598
>>31777683
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>>31777887
>replying
Just filter
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>>31777893
S-Sorry, I actually did have it all filtered already
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It's now Wednesday February 15th in Japan.

Will this be the day we get this month's movie news?
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>>31778045
One can only hope, we're on a slow roll for news. The slow pace with no extra news doesn't give much to discuss
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>>31778045
>>31778088
Fuck, I missed this.

The next issue of the Pokemon Movie Mail Magazine is out today.

That means they'll have an update.
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>>31778096
Have you checked 2ch yet? Maybe someone has posted links to scans of it.
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>>31778096
>ごろ
That means "roughly". Last issue was out the 19th and still said "roughly the 15th"

>>31778097
It's a webzine
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Chances are they'll save the movie news until tomorrow so they can talk about it on Oha, guys.
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>>31778200
One would think, but we also thought we'd get movie news at that hobby fair, so... who knows.
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>>31778213
Eh, that was mostly because we knew they were going to hold a stage show that, among other things, "presented movie info", which apparently just turned out to be them presenting the trailer.
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Lana episode when? She feels like the most sidelined character so far. Or rather, her character is pretty much finished.
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>>31778368
Episode 16 is a Mokuroh/Ashimari focus episode, so she'll presumably get at least some focus there.
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>tfw going to the 2014 threads in the archives to relive the glory days
>tfw coming back seeing what /padt/ has become
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>>31778424
You shouldn't judge by a frame...but yes, it's way too off-model actually
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>>31778368
When are we going to see the rest of her family? Or Mallow's because we won't see Molayne until the third island.
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>>31778097
They're deader than us. And we're fucking kill.
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>>31778461
Nobody gives a shit about Lana and Mallows families. Useless and pointless characters.
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m20 merch
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>>31778483
Was posted earlier without ugly watermarks
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>>31778498
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Hi, thread. It seems that I survived my suicide attempt.

Any news?
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Happy St Valentine's day /padt/!
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>>31778498
>>31778502
oh nice then
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>>31778504
>>31775708
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>>31778512
You too, post canon
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>even the merch was posted earlier
>lilliefag has arrived
Das it mane, release the cyanide gas.
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>>31778564
This is a RUDE free zone!
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>The funny thing about all this. It's that amourfags are more concerned about their shit canon than their own life.
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>>31778483
No kalos one ?
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>>31778607
There's probably more than just those four
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>>31778585
This is a CANON ONLY zone
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>>31778638
Autism
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>>31778638
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Stop encouraging them
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>>31778592
>>31778645
>>31778660
Ahh yes, our most productive workers in the salt mine.
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>>31778638
Ash had the same expression when he talking to Kiawe.
What will it mean?
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>>31778683
That the new artstyle gives Ash a lot more over exaggerated reaction faces.
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>>31778683
>a genuinely heartwarming moment after a kiss
>le ebin le lolsofunny le meme gag faces XD
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>>31778724
>XD
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>>31778683
That means that XY Ash is pretty much your emotionless battle robot, that can barely show glimpse of them only after something like kiss, while SM Ash is actaully human being.
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>>31778768
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I love Lillie
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>>31778830
We know disgusting pedophile
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>>31778830
Ok Satoshi.
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Why are amourshippers in so much denial on the fact that Ash and Serena arent and never will be canon? their only argument is "b-but she kissed him!!!!!!" I mean i know they are upset because they got fucked over a lot in XY and are despite for a "win" but c'mon. I hope nobody else is retarded enough to believe amourshipper autism
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>>31778855
>>31778868
You seem upset
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I may be retarded enough to watch the anime, but I know I'm not retarded enough to pay any attention to amourshipers. If they want to live in their own world where Ash and Serena are canon, let them, but they arent and never will be. I dont know why mentioning it triggers them so much
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>>31778879
Just ignore him, it's the same shitter who invades the weekly Amour threads to spam Ash/Lillie images.
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Good morning and Happy Valentines day, /vp/!
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>>31778914
>Producer (No name): No, it should look like they were definitely kissing
Kanda?
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>>31778914
Interesting, you worry about what these Lilliefags say.
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>>31778914
Dumb frogposter
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>>31778940
>:)
Pathetic
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Why is everyone pairing Ash with Serena, Iris, Lillie, misty, dawn, whoever. Everyone knows Ash's true love is either, battling, Pikachu or Greninja
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>>31778957
this
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>>31778957
No idea, I think it's because they can not get girlfriend.
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>>31778957
Shitposters
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>>31778974
Still no excuse to be a cuck by wanting to see another man in a relationship with Pokegirls.
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You know what? This is sad.
The moment Serena was officially introduced as Ash's first relevant love interest you should've realized how it was going to end.

Honestly If you're mad because amour became canon, there's no one else to blame but you.
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>>31779017
you're not even trying anymore
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>>31779017
It's not like anime ends in my lifetime.
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Can we just have one padg without shitposters from amour and alolashippers? Dont they have their won cancer threads already?
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>>31779041
SM killed /padt/
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>>31779041
no
of course alola is going to win
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>>31779041
What the fuck is a padg.
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threads like these are the reason /vp/ gets raided by other boards. just remember that
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>>31779041
The previous thread also had shitposting, and it's still alive in page 9 after more than 24 hours, and the one before it which lasted more than day and a half had only a little less shitposting.

So either >we grind this thread into ashes with shitposting, or >we let it live for an entire day of nothingness with a bump every 20 minutes.
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>>31778903
>>31778889

Ningen, get away with your ningen taste. Aurelia is just filthy shit made for filthy ningen who can't understand godly ships like amour, ability or morpheus.

Poke, Pearl, Negai, advance and AshxSMGirls shippings are just ningen trash.
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>>31779017
Most people already knew how things were going to end but many had false hope things would be different this time around. After seeing the disaster of SM hopefully no one will ever be hyped for the show again, it's like they willfully sabotaged it.
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All this shipping shit is not going to end. People are shipping Ash with Serena, and others are saying "No, Ash will be with Lillie!" After Gen 7 ends, and if there will be a new female companion, Shippers will be shipping Ash with Lillie and the same faggots who were for Ash x Lillie are going to say "No, Ash will be with this new girl! Rinse and repeat for every generation
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>>31779134
nice hands
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>amour is the only canon ship that will exist

feels good
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>>31779102
Zamasu pls
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>alola is the only ship that is visibly going to happen

my body is ready
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Q: From the very beginning, XY comes across as if we're looking at Satoshi from Serena's point of view. Whose idea was this?
A: I believe this originated from something Shukichi Kanda said at a planning meeting; "Wouldn't it be interesting to have a female lead like this?". It was then proposed that we could do a scene where Satoshi and Serena met in the past that had romantic implications, and then we went off that and developed things from there.
Tetsuo Yajima(Storyboard Director) did not know exactly how long the series would last, only that it would have to end when the next games came out.
Alan(Alain) was always meant to be part of the main series. The reason the four Mega specials were made was because it would be difficult to set up his backstory and development in the series itself, so he came up with the idea of giving him his own episodes that could establish his character. The idea to give these episodes a mega evolution theme came later, and was also his idea (so they were not made for the purpose of marketing megas, or in order to test the water for a series with another main character or any other such theory). Also, Alan is meant to be an "Anakin Skywalker-type character", someone who turns to the dark side to protect those he loves.
Ash's XY design was primarily Yajima's, and the idea for his sideburns were taken from "a character from the video games named Red, which Ash is based on".
Yajima wanted to make the bond between Ash and Greninja a major part of the story, but felt it would be difficult to do so if it had to remain a Greninja, so he went to Game Freak, and they came up with the idea of a synchro transformation. It was put in Sun/Moon afterwards, but was created during this discussion between anime staff and GF.
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Lana new episode when?
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>>31778914
>>31778926
>>31779199
mild autism
>>31779153
autism
>>31779179
mental retardation
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The interviewer notes that Oak didn't appear at all outside of episode 3, and that Oak's lecture segment getting replaced with PokeTV when XY&Z started meant that Oak didn't appear at all throughout all of XY&Z (the interview was conducted before XY&Z47 had aired) and asks if there was a reason for this. Yajima confirms this was a complete oversight, not something intentional. Presumably this goes for other callbacks to older series as well.
When XY&Z started, Yajima knew that the series had to wrap up everything in only a year, and they did a meeting to basically set up how the events of that year would go. He also specifically says that this is the reason there's minimal filler in XY&Z, there was absolutely no room.
Yajima wanted to drop the use of stock footage completely, but this wasn't possible to do, so they went with creating stock foreground footage that could have different backgrounds added to it instead.
One of the things that makes XY and XY&Z feel so new and refreshing is how Ash is depicted as a very gallant and dependable boy, one that Serena admired and had a crush on even before they started traveling together. It's precisely because of these people that Satoshi and Serena's farewell scene in "No End to the Zeros! Till the Day We Meet Again!!"(The last episode) has become so famous.
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>>31779131
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>>31779199
I see that you are very concerned about our comments (shitposting) and somehow affect you.
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>>31779249
>Projecting
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>>31779158

Fuck off, Gowasu.
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>>31778924

Yes, Based Kanda. Good thing he's still in S&M, so, Alola, Blueangel, Aurelia and ningen fujoshit can kill themselves.
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>>31778768

SM is actually a walking clown who only is there for violence gags, downy faces and screaming SUGEE! every 30 seconds. He's actually like DP Brock: being there to remind the audience he's still there. I would be ROTFLMFAO if he decides in the end to ditch his dream and become a "Pokemon Master" in a kanto school.

I hope you can pick the joke
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>>31778440

>yfw DBSuper improved after Shueisha took over the series' planning.
>yfw Pokemon became cheaper after XY&Z made OLM run out of budget and made them decide to go full digital because it's cheaper than drawing keyframes in a cel.
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>>31779497

Seriously. Nintendo needs to take over the series' planning. It's actually planned by TV Tokyo, OLM and ShoPro greedy faggots.
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>>31779497
DBS became much better around episode 38, that's where Toriyama took over. Or so I'm told.
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>>31779543

But real improvement started to be noticed after Shueisha (and the Dragon Ball Room) took over the Series' Planning around episode 73.
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>>31779078
>replying
I don't see any shitposting here except when a bunch of denialfags show up and start whining about Amour. The denialfags and other trolls are the ones you need to talk to, not Amourfags themselves.
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Iris is my favorite. She is a dragon trainer. She is a very good brave person who is very nice and very strong. Iris isn't tall, but she has a lot of thick hair. She is a Pokemon Trainer who someday wants to be a dragon master. She cares about her Pokemon and her friends. She has a Dragonite, an Excadrill, an Emolga, and an Axew. Her favorite is Axew, although she loves all of them.

Axew is her best friend. He is a dragon type Pokemon. He is small and green and cute. He is loyal to Iris and wants to make friends with everyone. One day he will evolve, but for now he is happy being happy and small and cute. Axew isn't in a rush, because he knows he'll accomplish his goals no matter what.

Everyone loves Axew because he is always friendly and pleasant to be around; no one has ever been angry at him, because he never does anything wrong. He is best friends with Iris. He lives in her hair because it is comfortable but it also is nice and he enjoys the smell. Iris always uses nice shampoos that dragon types like him like. He makes little furniture out of her hair and has a little hair house. He has a hair table and a hair chair and a hair bed and a hair washing machine. He knows it isn't a real washing machine, but he likes to pretend it is.

Axew just lives a fun life battling and playing and living in her hair. He is a happy Axew, but sometimes he worries that once he is bigger, he won't be able to be in her hair anymore. Once he told this to her and she gave him an apple because she didn't understand him. He appreciated the apple but it didn't solve his problem. Axew once tried reading a book about evolving, but he couldn't read, so it didn't work.

One day, Axew started to evolve, and he started crying because he wouldn't be able to play with his hair washing machine anymore. But Pikachu heard him and gave him a bunch of rocks and told him to swallow them. He did, and it was hard, but he didn't evolve after that. He was really happy to stay an Axew.

The end.
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>>31779158
That's actually Kamille, that dumbass ratingsfag who constantly tries to sound like some hip weeaboo and gets into pointless fights with shitposters.
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Korna
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Honest question, are Ash shippers people that self insert as him or what? Because the ammount of people that are obsessed with shipping here is kinda disturbing.
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>>31779041
That's impossible. Armourshippers tried to get their own thread and after the usual people had posted the usual content, it ends up lost and forgotten, and they usually come crawling back to /padt/ to piggyback the discussion to ensure their Armourposting stays relevant.
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>>31779543
He really still doesn't have anything to do with it. I think he gave a tiny bit more input on character design.

>>31779645
Good story.
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>>31779646

Not this shit again. Take cyanide and get over the namefagging.
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>>31779645
wtf I love Iris now
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>>31779680
He never posts here, you have more luck finding him on the forums where he actually posted.
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>>31779759
fuck off scott
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>>31779497
Yeeees cheaper than XY, because the use of the backgrounds in 3d were not an incredible savings in the budget and the multiple repetitions of scenes even in important battles like Vs Wulfric or Vs Shota was not to save, they invested millions in each frame because it was cool Notice the irony. Do you really have an idea of something relating to animation? Currently sun and moon is the long runnin with more investment in animation, do not come with shits taken from the cock.
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>>31779645
>Iris isn't tall, but she has a lot of thick hair.
No one gives a shit about the height of some girl that is underaged. Anyway, the only redeeming thing about her is her long hair.
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>>31779781
that's really stale pasta you are replying to, gets posted like every other thread

really sick of recent influx of irisposting but it's probably better than any "discussion" with either amourfags/alolacucks
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What if the upcoming movie has an ending like the one for the first movie, where it's Ash and Misty's kid, but instead they do it with Ash and Serena's kid, and Ash and Serena are adults and it was Ash telling his story of starting his journey to share with his and Serena's kid, and the ending of the movie is like that ending from the first movie, but it is not Ash and Misty's kid, it is Ash and Serena's kid?
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>>31779820
I prefer amour talk over anything SM or Iris related to be honest.
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>>31779853
Fuck off
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>>31779778

>Abuse of stock footage for Z moves and speedlines.
>simplified designs.
>more frequency in off model keyframes and animation errors.
>less detailed colouring.
>writing staff reduced to 4 veterans and 2 rookies.

Yeeeeees, SM has a reeeeeeeaaaaaaally invested animation and production value.
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>>31779880
>>31779717
>>31779511
>>31779497
>>31779465
>>31779102
Kamille pls go
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>>31779863
That's because you are cancer. SM is relevant (shit, but still relevant shit) and Gen 5 and below is legitimate discussion, but literally all that comes out of XY talk now is "OMG SHE KISSED HIM WOOOO"
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Which one of you made that anime girls cancer thread?
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Wow man it really does suck that this general has gone to shit because the Anons here are autistic cucks who are completely unwilling to let other people discuss things without interfering with their autistic "hurr durr not canon ecks DEE" trash, Man if only we had a actually decent janitor.

Scott is actually turning into the only decent poster because he actually has interesting things to talk about but the poor guy gets shot down for being himself
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>>31779853
>it's Ash and Misty's kid
It's not their kid, it's not Misty but some singer, and generally I doubt they would go with all the hassle for the sake of canonizing the ship.
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>>31779922
Now that you mention it no one seems to bring up Clemonts and Ash's science bowl or whatever anymore, it's just Serena this and calling out off models and shitposting x 5
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>>31779987
>Implying that Ash just didn't get a sex change after Misty gave birth to his child
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>>31779880
Most "problems" you say are associated with greater overall fluids, a higher frame rate per second means fewer details, simpler character designs, and obviously more likely to make mistakes. And of course the Z moves are repeated but perhaps not also part of a battle the act of megaevolution to the pokes, I do not know how many times I saw the fucking charizard of alan do the same shit.
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>>31780011
>>Implying that's not Dawn
>>Implying that strong womyn need a man
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>>31778638
Once Pokemon starts a new series, everything that happened in the previous series is ignored and no longer canon.
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>>31779645
This is autism but honestly Iris is the best female companion he has ever had. Not necessarily because she was great but because everyone else just sucked.

Misty
>boring design, angry meme tomboy, shitty trainer, mean person

May
>Boring, uninteresting, always starting fights, stupid hair that doesn't make sense

Dawn
>Okay but way too stereotypical. Nice and friendly though, easy second. Often boring. Pochama is pokekino though

Serena
>Awful unless you are an autist who cares about romance in Pokemon. less personality than tracey
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>>31780050
More like it's bad because it's shit.
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>>31780062
>Charizard says hello
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>>31780029
>Implying that Ash doesn't get the harem end and Misty and Dawn are just taking care of Ash and Whitney's daughter
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>>31780073
>implying that Ash doesn't go full Attila
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>Iris baiting
Is this the new thing?
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>>31780069
Before I started frequenting this general, I used to think that all opinions had at least a little validity, but that clearly isn't true.

>>31779982
fuck off scott
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>>31780069
This is some bad bait, anon.
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>>31780069
Misty wasn't mean. She was tsundere but did show empathy constantly.
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>>31780062
Because no main girl Ash has kissed except Serena, it will be ignored and no longer canon? With such a big thing I doubt it hardly and Pokemon also runs differently than usual.
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>>31780106
You clearly need to lurk more because I am not Scott pal, you should also know that Scott rarely if ever replies :^)
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>>31780097
>>31780109
>"I don't have a good rebuttal, so you are baiting!"

>>31780115
Selectively and only when it served to benefit her personal interests.
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>>31780069
Iris may have an interesting design but she's just another angry tomboyish trainer who was just a bit above average. Plus Axew living in her hair makes as much sense as May's hair
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Daily reminder that the best way to make /padt/ Great Again! is to just filter all of the posts you consider to be shitposts and only reply to posts that are not filtered by you.
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>>31779853
I doubt it's their kid, The woman who sang the song voiced blue haired lady there, so the kid is probably supposed to be the young girl singing.
I've never understood why Misty is there though.
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>>31780069
So what is your opinion on the SM girls thus far Irisfag?
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>>31780154
But if you filter everything you don't like you will just make it your own SJW safespace, no longer making it the thread it actually is.
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>>31780181
He's obviously baiting. Nobody would say all the girls are boring except Iris.
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>>31780204
That's great Anon but I am not going to eat up your shitposts.

I don't care if you oppose my opinions personally, but when people are just spamming and are shitposters you should just filter them and focus on the content you like
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>>31780181
Lana is flawed but great. Lillie/Mallow is acceptable but not suited for my tastes.

>>31780207
Again, not baiting. Although I realized I said Dawn was boring, and I take that back actually, although I still prefer Iris much more.
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>>31779211
If they had a meeting planning the XYZ stuff they should have done the remaining Tripokalons better.
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>>31780221
>STILL baiting
Trying a little too hard now.
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>>31780026

The framerate was reduced, you doofus!! Between DP01 and XY&Z 47 the series was made in 30 fps. Now S&M returned to the 24 fps framerate.
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>>31780221
>>31780207
I am willing to accept his beliefs, Misty lost her status as being among the Best Girls after Kanto and Orange Islands, May was always rather bland but had plenty of potential, Dawn is the best little sister that Ash never had, Never watched BW and I don't really care much for Iris, Serena was rather bland outside of her crush on Ash and Contests are better than this Idol shittu, Lana Lillie and Mallow are all great thus far.
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>>31780221
You said all the girls were boring. That would also mean you never liked a pokemon girl for the first 13 years of the show, since Iris wasn't introduced till late 2010.

You're telling me for the first 13 years of the series you didn't hold an interest in them? I find that hard to believe.
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>this thread
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>>31780251
Give BW a chance. Ignore the meme here; it is probably some of the best the series has to offer. The perfect blend of XY edge and SM lightheartedness with the best regional Pokemon and damn good battles. No romance BS either.

>>31780262
Not really. Misty always bugged me, especially in Johto, May never appealed to me, and I shouldn't have called Dawn boring. She was great but a little flawed. I just like Iris more.
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>>31780284
Why did May never appeal to you? She had plenty of personality.
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>>31780283
/padt/ is the worst general on this entire site. Objectively.

>>31780284
You can shill Iris and make a reasonable defense of her character but trying to defend BW outs you as a baiter.
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>>31780284
BW is (mostly) good until it goes into Season 2. Meloetta is OK, but most of the rest is shit. The league is so bad that not even the 'skip it all and lose to a chuuni cunt's edge dragon' could outshit it. Honestly, I think they tried to make the BW league shit.
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>>31780294
Always fighting with Ash/Max (who was terrible to listen to). A shit personality, I guess I should say.
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>>31780326
I liked BW but I completely disagree with you. I got much more into it during Rival Destinies/Unova and Beyond. They got a lot more creative with the episodes, you had the extended Hikari cameo, and other than how the League ended I thought it was pretty great.
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>>31780294
Some people are just conditioned to have an inferior taste, I should really make a more detailed chart explaining better why some girls are objectively better than others.
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>>31780328
May's fights with Max were only in a small handful of episodes and lasted no more than 2 minutes in an ep. May's personality itself is one of the most diverse of the main girls since she's neither overly girly, nor overly tomboyish, and we see her be fun, happy, angry, depressed, arrogant, etc.
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>>31780345
Or you could get a job.
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>>31780250
I'm talking about the character animation not the backgrounds.
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>>31780346
You literally just described Iris
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>>31780305
Anon, you clearly don't know what you are talking about, while /padt/ is cancerous and needs something to happen to make it great again there are far worse generals.

Undertale General is fucking horrible
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>>31780340
The beginning of BW had some real potential, the later half is where all the screw ups happened.
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What the fuck is going on in this thread?
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>>31780340
Hikari cameo was shit. She didn't do anything except agree with Iris that Ash was shit,
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>>31780383
People actually discussing the content of the Anime and arguing about whether or not BW was really as bad as people claim it to be. I know Anon, its a bizarre sight for the general to not be shitposting to retarded levels.
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>>31780383
Shitposting/falseflagging under the pretense of "discussion"...you know, the usual.
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>>31780383
>"I'm sure he's just exaggerating, it can't be that ba-"
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>>31780415
I want to fokko that fokko
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>>31780395
She had a good fight with Iris, had good chemistry with everyone, and was fun.

Pochama hanging out with Mijumaru was reallycute.
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My main problem with Dawn's return in BW is she bombed out way too early in the tournament. Her only win is a 3 second montage of Piplup beating a no-name trainer, then she just bombs to Iris' Dragonite.

It was Dawn's guest appearance and she comes back to completely bomb a tournament without at least one major victory?
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>>31780410
Whole picture please?
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>>31780439
>Dawn's guest appearance
It was actually Piplup's cameo.
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>>31780439
Fuck off, Scott
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The 14 first BW episodes were better than the 14 first SM episodes
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>>31780515
Can't argue with that.
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Do you think if we posted all the ships at once, /vp/ will die?
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>>31780530
>/vp/ will die?
but anon, /vp/'s been dead since it got created
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I just watched the episode May captured Munchlax, it was pretty funny. May had the funniest personality.
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>>31780599
Scott pls
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>>31780548
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Not even fun to shitpost here anymore. Back during XY I would get like 50 (You)'s a thread making the XYkiddies so butt-mad by disagreeing with their opinions. Those were the days.
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>>31780645
Yeah who the fuck are you?
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I kind of like the BW episode where Ash lets a kid borrow his Pikachu so that he can stand up to bullying or something.
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Also is it just me or did Jessie not interact with Dawn or Serena as much as a rival as she did with May?

May and Jessie got into arguments over their Wurmples in early Hoenn, then Beautifly and Dustox, then Jessie started working with Harley during Battle Frontier and even using his pokemon to try and beat May.

Whereas with Dawn even though Jessie started winning ribbons in DP, I don't recall her having too much meaningful interact with her. Then with Serena she was just another Kalos contestant.
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>>31780674
Yeah, it isn't just you. She had a lot more motivation for that rivalry after all.
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>>31780652
BW had a lot of good individual episodes. It was just shit where it counted (rival conclusions, Elesa, league etc.)
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>>31780674
Fuck off Scott.

>>31780694
Don't reply. Just another spam question that he's probably already asked 20 times in varying forms.
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>>31780701
I never brought up Jessie's rivalry with the girls until now. I was just thinking of how Jessie had a lot more "rival" moments in the Contests with May than the other two.

I think it's also because Jessie kept putting on her persona in the DP and XY contests whereas in AG she was still essentially a villain and tried to win by any means necessary.
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>>31780707
>>31780592
>>>/int/
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>>31780363
No thanks, I love my freedom too much.
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>>31780530
Outside of /padt/, no one really gives a shit about the ships.
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>All these faggots not posting best ship
Get with the times homophobes!
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>this thread

wew lad
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Is it safe now?
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ded
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>>31781386
It's never safe.
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Hau when?
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>>31781427
Later in the series hopefully unless Tapu Koko took that Z-ring and is going to give it to a rival OC/ Gladion.
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I saw many of you over at /sp/
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>>31781427
>>31781506
Why do you want Hau anyway?
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>>31781568
They want SM to suck less.
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>>31781610
Then why would they want Hau?
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Where did that Iris fan go? I want to have further discussions with him.
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>>31781610
If they want that they should only have Lillie as main girl.
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>>31781775
I'm here.
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>>31781565
Link?
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>>31781804
Assuming you're actually him and not someone else pretending to be him, let's continue the discussion.
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ded
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ded
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>>31781839
That wasn't me. This is actually me. I had a class.

What further thing did you want to discuss?
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>>31781644
I like Hau, even if they had him play the straight man role where he calls everyone out for their nonsense gags.
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>>31782268
Autism.
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>>31782268
Autism
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>>31782268
Autism
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD NIGHT /lillie/!!
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>>31782441
>>31782429
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>>31782502
Miette pls
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>>31782502
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>>31782582
DELETE
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>>31782582
You can keep the gay shit at >>>/u/
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>>31782582
Delete this.
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So is there nothing to talk about?
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Iris' Dragonite > Alan's Faggotzard X
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>>31782871
Come back tomorrow for Oha, hopefully we'll get something then.
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Is this week's eggs a tiefu episode?
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>>31783095
It's an >>>/a/ episode.
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>>31783218
Keep dreaming.
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>>31782871
We already talked everything anything else would be repeating information
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SM14 rating = 3.9

http://www.videor.co.jp/data/ratedata/top10.htm
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>>31783312
Meh, I was hoping it'd go down further. Still ratings being regularly in the 3.0's this early into a series, only 14 episodes...is a real new low for the franchise.

I honestly think SM's ratings will regularly settle in the 2.0's as we get further on.
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>>31783346
They're going to get much worse. They're introducing way too many new pokemon too quickly. Without Ash doing the trials it's going to lead to a whole bunch of fucking filler.


Speaking of, what did the magazine scans have for future episodes?
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>>31783346
>>31783312
Fuck off.
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>>31783361
>>31783346
>>31783312
Knock it off with this ratings horseshit
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>>31783095
Unfortunately not. Kokoro, Kate (idol girl) and her coach friend are going on a television quiz/game show. It looks like it's going to be good, but the tiefu doesn't look to be in it.
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>>31783378
Ratings posting has always been a thing.

Has pinocchiofacedown.gif guy been around?
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>>31783095
It's an idle episode
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I don't get why people are so focused on seeing the rating drop. The rating for that episode is in the same boat as the episodes post Kalos League
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>>31783417
It's shitposting
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>>31783361
The thing is when new games come out and a new series start, the ratings always have a huge jump over the ending of a previous series. It's happened when AG, DP and even BW came out.

However this time it hasn't. Outside of the 4.4 for the first two SM episodes...all the rest of the ratings have declined rapidly and are no better than the end of XY. The games being some of the best selling pokemon games since RBY obviously didn't correlate over to anime viewers.
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>>31783417
It's mostly just one or two autists trying to force it over and over again even though they don't have any clue what they're talking about.
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>>31783425
Fuck off, Scott
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> Minor rating, SM sucks.
With that way of thinking, we could say that XY was a mistake.
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>>31783417
Kalos League (3.7 - 2.0)
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>>31783464
DP began over 10 years ago back in 2006. Ratings were still relatively high back then, and didn't start decreasing till the later end of the series around late 2009 and 2010.
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>>31783417
>people
It's mainly Scott and one or two other autists, including Mimi. Just ignore them and their numbers autism since those figures don't mean what they think they mean.

>>31783464
Which is reason #39 the numbers are useless.

>>31783484
Fuck off, Scott.
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>>31783417
>episodes post Kalos League
People were actively protesting the ending of those episodes. The levels are back to the levels of people actively going out of their way to spite TV Tokyo after Ash got the shaft.

I'm focused on ratings dropping because as it stands, the anime is garbage. There is no redeeming aspect of it whatsoever. I want to see the anime get better and improve to be something that isn't so shit. It's not funny, it's not interesting, it's not exciting, it feels more like a chore to follow up with it. Ash has two pokemon. Rotomdex is annoying like in the games. The characters are vapid outside of their focus episodes. The only thing I have thus enjoyed about SM is the new ways that the Bewear gag is used every week. That's it.

>>31783455
Nah I've stayed out of these threads but I've been around these threads since they congealed during the BW days.

>>31783464
XY was the way it was because BW fucked the anime over big time. People lost interest during BW because it was such fucking garbage and the anime had to earn a lot of goodwill back with XY and XY&Z. One could argue that the ending of the Kalos League did just as much damage as the entirety of BW.

>>31783479
Use your critical thinking skills NEETboy. What happened in the Kalos League that would turn people away?

>>31783484
That would coincide with the later bits of DP and the start of BW.
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>a show that's in the top 10 every week has bad ratings
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>>31783496
You do realize you're basically talking out of your ass when you try to make anything out of those numbers...right?
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>>31783514
This is /padt/, I'd have figured by now that you people were great at talking out of your asses.
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>>31783496
Nice pasta, anon
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>>31783526
>pasta
Go on and google it you lazy faggot.
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>>31783505
It's the same old song and dance every fucking Tuesday. We have to tell newfags over and over not to pay attention to the ratings, yet inevitably they still do it.

>>31783525
Well, in that case, consider yourself Exhibit A.
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Fuck with the rating. Just enjoy the damn show.
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>>31783505
Most other anime in Japan is ecchi anime or porn. Those will never be in the top 10. They air late at night when all kids are asleep and only 30 year old otaku watch them.
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I thought the only purpose of the anime was promoting the games keeping them relevant after the initial launch, so why the fuck are not people comparing game sales through time with each corresponding season?
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Having a good February 14th /padt/?
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>>31783646
Because they can't think up believable enough bait to push some bullshit story about how the games barely sell.
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>>31783647
Yes, but don't poke the bear, now.

>>31783634
This.

>>31783640
Not this shit again.

>>31783401
Lame, but idles are good by me.
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>>31783647
Sure, just another day.
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>>31783671
>Yes, but don't poke the bear, now.
What?
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>>31783312
Where is the guy who said that SM14 would not enter the top because it was Lillie's episode?
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>>31783640
>hentai airs on tv
Retard.
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>>31783640
Fuck off, Scott
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>>31783676
Your grandpa > you
Prove me wrong.
>>
Serena special when ?
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>>31783719
Probably in 2018
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>>31783680
Probably trying to forget he ever said that. The exercise of trying to "predict" a week's ratings is a futile one, because the numbers don't really obey any sort of predictable pattern...which, as has been said again and again, is why the numbers should be tossed in the trash if you're a fan.
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>>31783707
He didn't knew shit about me, he was ill informed by others about me. He was just as blind as many of you that need a boogeyman for the things you disagree with.
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>>31783738
>>>/pol/
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>>31782582
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>>31783738
>implying I'm not your grandpa
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>>31783634
>enjoy
>SM

Like watching paint dry.
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>>31783679
As in, there's been lots of shitposting today other waifufags/shipfags (mainly the Lilliefags) because of Valentine's Day.
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>>31783719
Serena cameo when?
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>>31783841
Oh, was that why?
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>>31783833
I don't hate SM, but I certainly don't get excited for it. I feel more excited for Pokenchi and Oha nowadays, if you can believe it. Sometimes I also feel like I should start watching eggs and idles in earnest, because it's tough to pay attention to them during a livestream when there's no subs to help me understand what they're saying.
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>>31783719
>>31783851
Never?
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>>31783862
Yeah, basically. Just look at this thread.
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>>31783841
Oh, so I guess >>31783676 was right.
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>>31783841
>because of Valentine's Day.
What does that have to do with anything?
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>>31783911
Yeah. Amourfags aren't blame-free either, what with some of that CANON-posting.

It basically compounds the elephant in the room, which is the lack of interesting developments in SM.
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>>31783879
Not in SM pls
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>>31783947
Why not?
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>>31783926
Basically using it as an excuse to post shipping/waifu art for the hell of it or to troll other waifufags/shippers.
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>>31783956
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>>31783993
DELETE THIS
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>>31783956
You know
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>>31784010
>Nails
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Mallow episode when?
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>>31784026
Increasingly it feels like never.
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>>31783993
She can't have short hair in Alola, she said that if she meets Ash again she will be a more beautiful woman which means she has to get long hair again.
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>>31784018
>legs
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>>31784056
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCn7V4OI66I
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>>31784021
Well SM has had nails but a very few times.

>>31784026
Saving for the Sophocles episode she managed to show up for each one of them so yeah. Which reminds me, cast on Wednesday, right?
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>>31784099
One of the greatest scenes in the anime's history. It's really one of the few scenes in this otherwise insipid, superficial show that legitimately punched me in the gut.
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>>31784099
>The guy not intervening by stopping her from devaluing herself.
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sophocles a qt
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>>31783911
>that rena
You just reminded me that I needed transfer the Imgur transparena folder I just freshly downloaded to my Serena folder.

There, much better.
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>>31784306
t. Sophocles' cousin
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>>31784136
>Which reminds me, cast on Wednesday, right?
Yeah.
Doubt it'll have many surprises though.
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Assuming we get the full ending song Pose, should we assume another dancing ending in the future or will they start focusing on other aspects? I'm interested in how far they'll promote the Z-moves through the series or will we get character focused endings soon
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>>31784316
I always liked on XY the way the characters' hair moved to the wind.

>>31784358
I suppose at most it could be any character being missing from it.
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>>31784436
>I suppose at most it could be any character being missing from it.
From the looks of it, it's an Ash/Kukui solo episode
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>>31784459
Either way, we should find out in about 13 hours.
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>>31784459
>>31784531
op pic is from that episode,right? then lana and mallow are there
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>>31784595
No, that's from SM16
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>>31783719
Split-second cameo in Movie 20 along with all the other non-Kanto companions that don't matter anymore.
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>>31784648
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>>31784648
>yfw M20 recreates the flashback scene
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>>31784648
>implying the Kanto companions matter
>implying this isn't just an extended version of the first episode with just Ash and Pikachu
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>>31784700
I don't have any face to share because it's not happening.
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New bred then:
>>31784862
>>31784862
>>31784862

Fuck, this one was a mess
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