Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS SUN & MOON 9 - THE TOTEM POKÉMON IS DEKAGOOS! (JANUARY 5TH)
>Ratta and Koratta are laying waste to the island's fields. In response, Satoshi goes to meet with Island King Hala, an influential man on the island, as well as a key person in the "Island Pilgrimage" he is challenging. Satoshi immediately tells Hala he will be attempting the Island Pilgrimage, but Hala tells him he needs to be tested to make sure he is qualified for the pilgrimage first.

UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 65 (Jan 8th)

SM10 - Will the Z-Move Work?! Challenging the Grand Trial!! (Jan 12th)
>It's finally time for the Grand Trial against Island King Hala! Hala uses Fighting types, and his powerful battle style causes Satoshi great trouble. Satoshi goes up against him alongside Pikachu and Mokuroh! During the battle, Hala unleashes a Z-Move together with his partner Hariteyama, but Satoshi returns fire by using a fully powered Z-Move himself! It's a clash between two Z-Moves! How will it end?

POKÉMON XY&Z CHARACTER SONG PROJECT COLLECTION VOL 2:
https://my.mixtape.moe/buzdoe.zip

ALOLA!:
https://mega.nz/#!ABsWQTbY!d1ILUTYt2IyO6hW97_Jk8YY9BVuvEdrHAu8J2uMwYR0

POSE:
https://mega.nz/#!TlYTBZ5A!kZi8TzDkFIHwsU10_0PuZrVDoymIGjuPWWg0XcXxDws

Satoshi: SPEEDO STAH
>subtitles say "Swift"

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Sliding to the new thread.

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>>31055890
Splashing into the new thread

>>31055875
>bulbanews
Back to your pedo forum.

>>31055908
its a joke dumb metaposter

SM 10~ episodes in:
>Ash met Tapu Koko and got the Z-Ring
>Ash got Electric and Normal Z-Crystals
>Ash caught one Pokémon
>Ash completed his first trial and beat the first Kahuna
>Team Skull made their debut
>Lusamine and Gladion were shown already

XY 10 episodes in:
>Ash caught two Pokémon
>Ash won one Gym battle, but only after losing to the Gym Leader in his first try

Filler like Serena's shoehorned childhood romance doesn't count either.

>>31055908
it's just a prank bro

>>31055941
>Ash caught two Pokémon
>Ash won one Gym battle, but only after losing to the Gym Leader in his first try
>Ash jumped off the fucking Eiffel Tower in the best bromance moment in entire series.

>>31055941
Forgot

XY 10 episodes in:
>There was a plot

>>31055941
Makes me wonder how did they manage to fuck up SM so bad.

>>31055941
>more shit happened
>and they still managed to make it seem like nothing happened at all

SM really dropped the ball hard on these introduction episodes.

>>31055974
>>31055980
>>31055984
>>31055999
>replying seriously to pasta

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>>31056018

It's some tasty pasta though.

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>>31056106
I prefer this kind of spaghetti.

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>>31056118
I remember when I actually thought this would lead somewhere

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>>31056128
>implying it didn't
>watching the dub

>>31056128
But anon, it did lead somewhere
to Kissu

>>31056140
>>31056139
Not enough to satisfy me. They didn't even show it. And now she's gone.

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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING /lillie/!

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PRETTY
LITTLE
LIAR

>>31056178
Wonder if "uso desu" will be a catchphrase

>>31056128
>>31056152
>Not enough to satisfy me. They didn't even show it. And now she's gone.
That's how i feel too buddy.

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>>31056153
hello.

>>31056153
Don't ya have a flock of emus to fend off, ya fuckin cunt?

>>31056255
She'll be back though.

>>31056278
Along with Misty and May and Dawn. They will fight over Ash but she will win. Then the show will end and go into the Pokemon Special format of new protag every season.

Or she'll just never show up again.

>>31056296
Newfag pls

>>31056302
It's a tongue in cheek post, are you thick?

>>31056278
I don't care very much, we need to wait like 2 years for that and probably she will return only a couple of episodes just to meet Ash's new friends, and then left the show again, but forever this time.

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>>31056153
>>31056261
Anime Lillie vs Game Lillie
which do you prefer?

>>31056426
Anime Lillie is shit.

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Anime Z powered Lillie will be the best grill desu.

>>31056426
Both.

>>31056426
Both are useless.

>>31056358
How would Mallow and the other SM girls react if they found out about her crush during her cameo arc?

>>31056139
How did they get away with a mouth kiss?

>>31056426
Too early to tell. I'll let you know once we hit the end of the first half and see more of anime-Lillie.

>>31055980
What XYfags mean by "plot"?

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>>31056593

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>>31056593
They wouldn't care because it's already harem. It's Serena that would be troubled that he has other girls besides her.

>>31056625
They meant their shipping waifu Serena had appeared.

>>31056629
This. Mostly of the girls would support her. Iris would think it's stupid tho.

>>31056604
By not showing it?

>>31056153
What do you think of nips shipping Lillie with pokemon?

>>31055980
Please, the plot for XY didn't start until the XYZ season.

Aureliashipping will rise fuckers

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>>31056685
Who the fuck chooses these names?

>>31056661
Yeah I guess, but 10 years old kissing was still too much.

>>31056713
It's because she's in love.

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>>31056708
This guy.

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>>31056713
Better not look at this then.

Aserola in the anime when?

>>31056685
What's that.

>>31056773
Lillie/Mallow, I think?

>>31056775
No, that's hazelShipping

>>31056775
Not even close and the name is not longer relevant to the pairing.

>>31056791
What? Where's the logic in that?

Why are these shipping names so retarded?

>>31056685
It already lost all of its remaining strength.

>>31056806
Because shipping is retarded.

>>31056806
Isn't this a thing with shipping since the dawn of the internet?

>>31056822
No. It's some special snowflake shit unique to Pokemon and I think one other franchise.

>>31056806
Don't try to find meaning in the logic of shippers. That's an abyss of craziness and concentrated excrement that you will never be able to escape from.

>>31056835
Hell no. That thing is prevalent in almost any form of media with more than 1 male and 1 female in its cast. You just don't hear about them so much due to other, more vocal, fanbase of various franchises.

>>31056846
>>31056822
Honestly shipping should just be banned netwide. Talking about shipping should have the same repercussions as posting hardcore cp to your facebook page, at least when it reaches the autistic levels seen here.

>>31056863
No, the entire "naming pairings all kind of weird names that make no sense" isn't standard at all. Other fanbases use logical combinations of character names, just like the nip Pokemon fanbase does.

>>31056871
>Honestly shipping should just be banned
I can't agree more.

Subs when?

>>31056888
If you want a hugbox try reddit

>>31056426
If anime Lillie manages to become a trainer before the series ends, she will be better.

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>>31056933
Sorry anon. Christmas has been getting in the way a lot.

Is SatoSere even a ship?

>>31057001
Not really. More of a subplot.

Is Amour endgame?

>>31057037
Only in the Kalos timeline

>>31057048
Not really

>>31056713
>tfw way past ten and haven't been kissed yet

Is it over for me, lads?

>>31057068
Find your own Serena

>>31057000
No problem, there is not new episode this week anyway.

>>31057174
New Year's special though

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>>31057171
delet

>>31057171
wat

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need translate

>>31057193
but will people care?

>>31057220
>not caring about SCIENCE

>>31057211
Wrong thread.

>>31057211
Lillie is dreaming about her mom but wakes up and sees chicken.

tldr: it's yurishit

>>31057211
>game

>>31057211
>posting dead characters

>>31057171
it kinda fits

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>>31057171

>>31057234
i know,all pic of this artist it about yuri joke.
(mahou precure,Aikatsu etc etc )

>People think Ash will get with Lille.

Not only have they learned their lesson to not mess with shipping from XY but Lille doesn't even like to touch pokemon, AKA, the only thing that Ash gets rock hard for.

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>>31057272
Paco, you gotta go back.

>>31057287
The games have more blatant shipping scenes than in previous entries and Lillie not touching pokemon is not a really a reason that prevents an Ash x Lillie pairing from happening, the actual reason is Ash will fuck off to the next region as usual and the ship is also dead in Japan.

>>31056426

game everything when it comes to sun and moon. I have no idea why they made her have a phobia of pokemon when in the game all she wants to do is protect Nebby. Frankly I think it would be a lot better if she was living with the professor before hand and give Ash a bit of a sibling rivalry with her.

>>31057171
>Sophocles is the tallest student
The rest kinda fit.

>>31057334
>the actual reason is Ash will fuck off to the next region
I wonder if anime Lillie will go to Kanto with Ash.

>>31056809
it never had any strength to begin with

there's a reason people started shipping it before the series even started, bc they came in expecting there to be another romance subplot w the waifu looking character, but serena already won so they weren't going to do another one

>>31057347
A young boy living with a young girl under the same roof is not well seen in Japan. Her fear of pokemon is just a subplot they will use until she remembers what happened and something similar to the games plot start, the anime does its own thing after all.

>>31057048
>le ebin multiverse meme

>>31057392
You don't know how shipping works, do you?

>>31057392
>serena already won

>>31057392
They can try another romance subplot if they wanted, the anime is just a marketing tool for the games.

>>31057351
no but some of the aureliafags keep insisting she will based on nothing except "muh game lillie"

>>31057351
She will start a journey of her own.

>>31057287
Not even nips think that anymore.

>>31057409
she did by this show's standards

>>31057408
duh I know shippers will ship what they want to ship but some of the aureliafags think there's a real romance subplot here when there is none

>>31057413
they can but they probably won't, until that actually happens amour wins

people who try to apply strict criteria for what is "canon" to a kids series like pokemon are almost as annoying as the most hardcore shipperfags

>>31057287
>don't mess with shipping due to XY
Right, because Serena pretty much won the Ash

>>31057482
Omode pls go

>>31057413
The problem is Serena's subplot just ended, so if they wanted to bait people into watching with another one, they'll have to go further than they did with Serena's. And that's unlikely because it's a kodomo series. If they rehash the whole thing, it'll be boring since we already know how Serena's ended.

They could do Romance again, but not in SM. It's not worth it.

>>31057457
>she did by this show's standards
The show has no standards for romance, it's not a shoujou series nor a shonen series, what you think was romance is nothing more than marketing tactic.

>>31057457
Dude, there won't be a winner. Serena is just a girl that will fade into irrelevance like the rest, they will keep making more seasons until the franchise dies.

>>31057515
>they rehash the whole thing, it'll be boring since we already know how Serena's ended
They have been doing that every season, only now in gen 7 they are trying to change things.

>>31056881
Anon, go and visit /co/ one of these days. You find such stupid naming schemes in almost every single one of their threads. RWBY, Adventure Time, Steven Universe, etc... Outside of that, you have your Harry Potter and Transformer, and so forth. This is not a localized phenomenon.

>>31057171
If I remember this, the people Ash and Mallow are pretending to be did hook up at one point and actually liked each other that way, but gave it up since the other students were teasing them too much about it.

>>31057538
>they don't have Gyms now so it's a totally original formula
Where'd this faggot-ass meme come from? Even the games were still linear as hell, and each trial still had a type associated with it. It was different for Pokémon, I guess, but don't act like it's revolutionary.

>>31057528
everything in this show is a marketing tactic dummy, that's what i mean when i say idiots need to stop saying "by shonen/shoujo definition, she didn't win because this is a marketing series"

quit thinking about this so hard, 95% of people that saw the kiss likely got the picture and the only people arguing over it are hardcore fans and hardcore shippers on an anonymous chinese imageboard, tumblr, leddit, and youtube

>>31057530
who said anything about requiring her to return? she gave a promise she'd come back for him, even if we don't see it it's obvious enough what the intent was

you're thinking way too fucking hard about this

>>31056791
Source? Can't find anything with google.

>>31057579
I didn't say it was revolutionary, just that they are "trying" to change thins. Read the post again.

>>31056118
Why are xy fags so butthurt

>>31057615
>le ebin "XYfags are butthurt" meme

>>31057579
Not that anon, but I agree in that its not revolutionary since the ideas of the trials are not necessarily combat-based since Orange League did it first. Grand Trial is essentially Gym Battles but even then it's not the set 8 Gyms and then league path. But it is novel in that it's the first time Ash isn't traveling all over the place and doesn't have to stick with the usual 2-3 people all the time.

>>31057626
Projecting that much?

>>31057608
But they're not really changing things, just going along with the games. Ash is still going to do the trials, it's going to be linear just like the games. What's your point? Nothings really changing. The end of the Kalos League should have taught you that.

Unrelated, but the autistic shipping names started because Rocketshpping is a clever pun. It expanded from that, and a few other fandoms like Yu-Gi-Oh also haver nonindicative ship names.

>>31057645
but in the games you do need to still travel, it's just that in the anime they decided to try this school thing out, and now the cast is overwhelmed with one or two dimensional characters

>>31057584
Ash also says and promises a lot of shit that will never become true and he is the MC, yet you somehow think a girl who won't be relevant in future gens will come back and end up with him. What kind of retarded logic is that?

>>31057584
>everything in this show is a marketing tactic dummy
Then why are you claiming she won? By this shows standards her romance subplot was nothing but a marketing tactic that won't be relevant in any other season again where they will keep trying new thing or cecycle old things as long as it keeps people interested.

>>31057671
They are tring to change things in the games and the formula in the anime is also different, the tone is not even the same as in previous series. Are you even watching the anime? They are trying a difference approach to the series with the same results and that's it.

>>31057685
Because she kissed him and claimed she will be back to him after he isn't 10 anymore, aka, after the series ends. No other will do that, so by this show standards, she won.

>>31057734
There you go again, agreeing that the series is just marketing tool but applying shipper logic when it comes to your no longer relevant ship.

>>31057685
that means that nothing that happened in previous seasons matters to anything. let's bother not even discussing any of ash's past journeys because none of them happened and don't matter.

quit trying to use the "muh marketing anime" meme

also wake me up when another romance subplot with ash happens

>>31057682
ash promises a lot of things that we actually get to see the outcome of. the rest the writers do that so they don't have to bother wasting screentime revisiting shit.

again, why are you thinking so hard about this and acting like i think we will actually see her come back on screen and marry him? as far as most people are concerned, serena won, and only people here are busy sperging about "muh marketing series, here's what it specifically means to be canon and not canon"

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>>31057734
I wonder who's behind this post

>>31057750
>no longer relevant ship
there's what phrase again, no longer relevant

so let's just ban all discussion of ash's previous leagues and his interactions with previous travel companions and previous villain fights because they are no longer relevant. oh wait, those count as relevant because they don't involve romance

sure anon, whatever pleases your autism

>>31057674
To each their own, I found the characters to be rather likeable and sufficiently developed that I can imagine a pretty good development to their characters in the upcoming 100+ episodes. At the very least, I care more about Litten and his plight with grandpa Stoutland did than most of the previous Pokemon that Ash has gotten in the last few seasons.

>>31057773
>my edit
:D

>>31057781
They are barely relevant for the current series, people discussing about it doesn't make previous seasons suddenly relevant to what Ash is doing in the current one.

>>31057758
If by most people you mean retarded shipperfags then yeah.

>>31057734
this. we won't get to see it on screen, but until some other girl comes along and does something bigger or identical, amour wins by this show's standards, where you need to keep the series going for marketing purposes.

it's not complicated, and it shouldn't be, but "muh marketing anime" seems to be the hot new meme around here

if people want to act like she didn't win because it makes them sleep better at night or because romance subplots trigger their autism, i guess that's their right

>>31057584
>95% of people that saw the kiss likely got the picture
This, and considering this is a kids show and she's been Ash's only love interest in 20 years she already won.

>>31057852
>"it's maketing except when armour is involved!"

>people thinking Ash will end up with any of her companions

>>31057832
but that doesn't mean they didn't happen

>>31057851
>retarded shipperfags
so my friend who watches the show casually and watched kissu recently and agreed serena basically won is a "retarded shipperfag" now. okay sure buddy, if that pleases your autism

>>31057674
The most worrying thing is that they will have to balance the five of those characters along with the Mons, the trials, and the Aether stuff, in around three years.

And they have already spent eight episodes on character's introductions only, and God knows how many filler episodes we will have on a more relaxed, "fun"-oriented series.

>>31057886
>armour
>maketing

>>31057891
but that doesn't make them relevant either.

>>31057891
Sure anon. Your 'friend' thinks that way therefore it'a canon.

>>31057891
They should know what to expect from a series that has been airing for almost 20 years.

>>31057891
Your friends sound like normalfags.

>>31057899
Are you unaware of just how many fillers are presented in every single previous seasons before S/M?

>>31057890
>her
we /ashley/ now?

>>31057899
it worries me but hopefully by next year things start really clicking

>>31057909
yet people still discuss them. sounds like they're relevant to me.

>>31057930
i have bad news for you buddy, this series is aimed at normies, not spergs on this chinese imageboard that overthink straightforward events in kids marketing shows

>>31057899
Did you even watch previous series? Even XY had filler TR episodes before and after the first gym battle.

>>31057965
Not in-universe like I said.

>>31057965
>Kids
>normies

>>31057983
it's all the same universe. we don't suddenly switch to another alternate reality when we switch regions. things don't get referenced that much in previous seasons to make it easier for people to pick up the show but even then there is still a basic continuity and some references are made

>>31057965
Not really, the new tone of the seires actually scare off normies who wants to see more action.

>>31057999
do the kids whine about what is and isn't canon on a chinese imageboard like we are? are they leading typical childhoods? then they're normies.

>>31057965
Normies, aka little children, can care less about the shipping. They're here for the Pokemon.

>>31058002
There are references but previous achievements from older season are not relevant for the current series, if they were Ash would have won his first league a long time ago and he would be famous for saving the world or helping to save it.

>>31058022
the 7 year olds might find it gross but not the 12 year olds

also parents watch this shit with their kids

>>31058011
>"normies" want more action

>>31058048
Maybe you should try going outside this board and see what kind of series normies like.

>>31058046
and again, that doesn't mean you can say "amour isn't relevant at this very moment, that means that negates anything it ever did!"

it happened. that's the bottom line. this "it's not relevant right now!" is a red herring

>>31057287
>the only thing
>not including technology

>>31058056
i do. "normies" like all kinds of things. something you don't seem to realize.

>>31058022

>here for the Pokemon
And that is what we should be doing too, we have lost our way. It is okay to have shipping from time to time, a little lore once in a while, and some fun but all in moderation.

>>31058063
I never said it negates everything it did like you are claiming but it won't be relevant in future gens just like the rest of the girls. The fact you think she is any different shows how naive you are.

>>31058048
12 years old arent watching Pokemon, they would be watching shounen shit like WSJ. Pokemon's target audience is not them. And parents are not in the habit of watching Pokemon for the ship if their kids aren't watching it for the same reason. Or are you seriously trying to say thr parents will force their kids to watch Pokemon because their precious ship is on screen?

>>31057965
Actually it's intended to be watched by the entire family.
Kids can't pay for Takara Tomy toys after all.

>>31058076
Normies don't like "all kind of things" like you are claiming, otherwise the term wouldn't even exist to begin with.

>>31058104
>12 year olds aren't watching pokemon
>parents watching the show with their kids means they are begging their kids to watch for the shipping

>>31058090
It's too late, anon. The moment you had people complaining about how boring SCIENCE! was in the special, /padt/ has no future.

>>31058002
The only relevant things in the continuity at the start of any given series are:
>Satoshi is from Masara Town, Kanto
>his first mon and aibou is Pikachu
>his mom and Porf. Okido live in his hometown
>he has been traveling for some time already before arriving in the current region

The rest, including references, are just that: references and nods to previous series that hold no meaning whatsoever to the new children viewership besides remarking the fact that Ash has been traveling for some time already, and at best are just treats and winks to the grown-up autists who have kept watching since OS and discussing it on an american japanese-themed anonymous imageboard.

Pokemon doesn't have a real continuity, but at the same time doesn't lack one; it's a pseudo-continuity of sorts where nothing that happened before matters, except when it's time to remind the new generation of viewers about the reason of Ash's journey and how it started (like M20 will do).

>>31058117
If the kids aren't interested, then the parents would not be watching it with them. And little kids doesn't care about shipping.

>>31058107
well yeah. it's geared at kids from 7-12 years old roughly but it's watched by whole families around dinner time.

>>31058115
don't act like "normies" doesn't refer to the overwhelming majority of people who don't fit into the internet subculture here

>>31058145
yet the show still had some. strange isn't it?

>>31058145
>little kids doesn't care about shipping

>>31058090
I think that, after 20 years of watching for the critters, even the most accustomed of animefags (who might have been watching since Kanto) will start wanting something more from the anime. Maybe that's why people were hoping so much from XY.

That the anime will ever deliver such things is entirely another thing. It won't.

>>31058163
>>31058164
Name me a series aimed for kids that has gotten better ratings with the introduction of shipping then. For kids, their top priorities are flashy special moves, penis jokes, pun and visual gags (not in that order). Shipping is the last thing they would be focusing on. It would be there, but it sure as hell not what they are looking for in a show to watch.

>>31058237
>muh ratings

>>31058218
You're missing the point of the Pokemon anime, anon. The anime does not grow with the fans, they cater to the new incoming ones. For them to grow with the fans is to basically leave their children demographics and compete in the shounen market. I mean, to see how that is a bad idea, see the Digimon franchise.

>>31058266
Alright, name me a series/franchise that grew bigger when they switched over from the children's demographic to shounen then.

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>>31058163
>it's geared at kids from 7-12 years old
More like 3-8 years old now.

>>31058237
>ratings
Opinion (and english) discarded.
Let's make it a bit easier. When writing the last episodes of XY they had the option for Serena to get over her crush.
We all know what happened, and if that happened was because for them Ash x Serena is something that helped the series.

>>31058272
I was talking about the fandom's, and most specifically the peripheral fandom's, reactions towards a long-running children anime like Pokemon, not about the nature of the anime itself. About the latter, that's what my last line in that comment, and the spoiler, is for.

>>31058286
Why does that matter? You seem to think that the writers are worried about your precious ratings. Pro tip: They aren't worried, because they've been very good and continue to be very good.

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>people still butthurt over the tone shift

its literally the backwards gintama. wher people think the series went to shit when it tried to be too serious.

>>31058344
Why would they care about the peripheral fandom? What have they done to contribute to the success of a franchise? Incite shipping wars with their badly written fanfics and fanart? Spamming on tumblr and reddit on why their ship is canon? Shitpost on an anonymous imageboard about how Serena is end game and that they need to bring her back because of 'muh ratings'?

>>31058363
Don't get me wrong, anon, but I'm struggling to see how that protip had answered my question.

>>31058454
I'm struggling to see how your question is relevant.

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Reminder that Sophocles is best boy

>>31058454
Use your brain fag.
You know what are the differences between the XY and BW series? XY, despite having "lower ratings", never became a horrendous clusterfuck that had to resort to Charizard and Dawn to save itself.
Also isn't the anime supposed to promote the games? Because last time I checked XY sold better than BW, which is impressive considering the number of nds vs 3ds.

>>31058474
I'm just asking had there been any series that had gotten bigger by trying to shift from a children's show into a shounen, since people are saying Pokemon should have grown up with the audience and shift their focus to more shounen-like themes such as shipping.

>>31058410
Someone is finally saying the truth.

>>31058410
Again, I'm not saying they give a shit about it. I'm kinda implying the contrary, in fact: that they don't do at all. And why would TPC care? Their numbers are less than the children who watch the anime, they watch it through illegal internet streams instead of paying IRL monies to the japanese cable jews, and they buy approximately zero official merchandise (and by they I mean >we).

I'm just saying that I kinda understand the fags that want things like a new MC, or a girl winning the Ash, or the Ash winning a league, and the reasons why they want that. Not that they will ever get those things because let's face it, some of us will die before any of those things happen, if they ever happen at all.

>>31058573
Alright, I take back the usage of the word ratings then. Just name me a series that had gotten bigger/more successful from switching over from a children's show to a shounen then. Because the point i'm trying to make is that it's not a very good idea. They had almost no reason to shift their focus a more mature audience since as it's been proven to be a rather unsuccessful venture.

>>31058602
>I kinda understand the fags that want things like a new MC, or a girl winning the Ash, or the Ash winning a league
We already got one of those things. The first thing will never happen and the third thing won't happen until the show finally ends.

>>31058630
Poor Orange League and Frontier. Apparently, you're not important enough to count as winning.

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>>31058602
>and they buy approximately zero official merchandise (and by they I mean >we).
I only spend money in the pokemon games, and i also buyed pic related but nothing more.

>>31058655
>BF
Basically Gym Battles on Hard Mode, Ash could re-challenge them at any time. Not his main regional objective, but it's something.
>Orange Juice League
Reminder that the Pro Bowl and the All-Star Games don't count for shit.

>>31058655
Because they aren't leagues that have single champions like the regional league tournaments do. The BF and OL may have 100s of "winners" every season.

>>31058708
>>31058720
Just saying, Ash did win those and they are still considered to be quite the accomplishment, but no one ever likes to bring them up. Maybe Frontier will get more recognition if they bring long hair Anabel into S/M.

>>31058122
Those were the newfags that got here with SM.

>>31058672
Games and maybe plushies are the only merch one needs.

>>31058800
SM is a relaxing series, if anything they would be the ones liking the special.

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>>31058122
How can anyone consider SCIENCE to be boring?

>>31058825
Theoretically yes.

SCIENCE raws when?

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I'm watching Best Wishes for the first time, why is Ash such a drooling retard? Like, he's way worse than in older series. What the fuck happened?

>>31058870
He met Iris.

>>31058870
Tobias

I'm not interested in the Totem episode tb.h

>>31058888
Quads confirm.

>>31058888
Nice, it's all Tobias fault.

>>31058870
Skip it to XY.

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>>31058870
This guy happened.

>>31058870
Just watch the final 20 episodes.

>>31058573
>XY, despite having "lower ratings", became a horrendous clusterfuck that had to resort to last second amourbait to save itself.
Fixed.

>>31058888
can't argue with these quads

>>31058864
Will it get subs?

>>31058870
Welcome to after DP series. Ash is the same in XY/SM outside battles, overreacting reckless hyper kid.

>>31059020
See >>31057229 and >>31057193

>>31059057
Oh nice.

>>31058948
What was his problem?

What's with all the BW bashing?

Kodomo ne anons

>>31059188
Fuck off, Iris.

Why is the other thread still up?

Mina when?

>>31059224
Never ever

>>31059208
It didnt reach bump limit.

>>31059224
He is dead.

>>31059224
Spending time with Hau and Chicken.

>>31059224
Where is Hau? He is supposed to be Ash's rival.

>>31059272
You fucking wish.

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>>31058870
BW and SM aren't canon.

>>31059272
That's Gladio.

>>31059247
It's on page 10.

It's just that the janitor cleaned up a bunch of shitposts and that briefly knocked the thread under the bump limit, but it eventually got back to the limit I think.

>>31059291
BW and XY are part of the same continuity though.

>>31059272
Shota pls PLS

>>31059291
BW and XY**

What if Hau doesn't appear at all and Gladio only appears during thr Aether arc, and Ash's rivals are another pair of anime OCs?

>>31059315
Shota was also a rival.

>>31059324
this.
It would be better if XY wasn't canon with how shit the ending was.

>>31059195
Spoken like a true child.

>>31059341
Gladio has Type:Null, he should appear in the second island.

>>31059347
could say the same about os and dp you know
lazy zard and takuto is way worse

>>31059312
All the anime seasons are part of the same continuity.

>>31059341
With Kiawe there I doubt Ash will have an OC rival even if Gladio doesn't appear.

>>31059354
Fuck off, Iris.

>>31059341
They already showed Gladio in the picture, he should appear around the second or third trial.

Why Ash doesn't say the name of the Z move when usnig it?

>>31059455
He doesn't know the names maybe?

>>31059378
Except Johto.

>>31059372
>>31059347
Pikachu losing to a Meowth was worse.

>>31059372
the context behind the shit ending for XY was what made it worse.
They established Ash-Greninja as a very strong thing then had it go and choke to a pokemon weak to it.
that was bullshit.

>>31058989
>being this mad
Anyway, I don't believe there's people who unironically think BW was good.

>>31059431
I thought Gladio cut his hair that way to look more edgy but he still has it as a child.

>>31059513
Stop being such a kid, I mean pleb, anon

>>31059372
>Kanto
Charizard was a dickwad, but understandable because Ash was a newfag and it had zero respect for him.
>Johto
They needed to shill the new gen Mons, like Blaziken. Still a good fight.
>Hoenn
His ace wasn't fully evolved, a good fight, but the Meowth in Boots was bullshit.
>Sinnoh
Ash vs Paul was worth it, and you knew Tobias was basically there to be an unsurmountable obstacle.
>Unova
Fucking Cameron.
>Kalos
A rival which he had never won against, a super powerful move that looked like a finisher, Ash at his strongest, Charizard had already fought Pikachu for a bit, Greninja was fresh and ready. And then all of Ash's team except for Pikachu and Luchabro decided to choke at the same time.

>>31059494
Megazard X is not longer weak to water.

>>31059557
It can't be good when Iris was part of the main cast.

>>31059372
This, at least Alan was actually someone.
Tobias was some inexcusable lazy shit.

>>31059573
wait what, really?

>>31059571
Ash also managed to take down two legendaries on his battle against Tobias.

>>31059616
He is Fire/Dragon.

>>31059616
Nah that's bs Megazard X is Fire/Dragon type.

>>31059616
He becomes a Dragon type too, anon.

>>31059636
What's bs? Dragon resists water, so it becomes neutral.

>>31059494
MegaSceptile had 4x resistance to Greninja's water Shuriken and still got OHKO'd.

Unova league was the worst.

Trump when?

>>31059808
Right here >>>/pol/

>no fairy crystal because Mina won't even be in the anime
Will Ash ever catch a fairy type that doesn't look girly?

>>31059857
Cutiefly is not that girly.

>>31059808
Are mexicans still here or something?

>>31059857
It's more likely he will catch a Steel type first.

>>31059857
Mimikyu was his only chance.

>>31059895
There are some spics around.

>>31059372
Well to be honest Takuto's still understabdable: the fight against Shinji is the culmination of the whole rivalry so Satoshi kinda had to win, so they had to recur to a deus ex machina to stop him from winning the league. It would have been way worse if he lost against Shinji. Not to mention Satoshi was still able to take Darkrai and Latios down.

>>31059571
What makes a league shit? DP and XY at least had some good battles unlike BW league which was utter shit with nothing redeemable about it.

>>31059984
Ash losing

>>31059984
Especially Cameron.

>>31059996
But that happens in every league.

IKOU Z

>>31059857
>>31059909
Why do people never mention Ash catching a Psychic type?

>>31060012
Ash losing the final when everything said he always won against rivals he couldn't beat before.

>>31060029
It doesn't fit Ash's combat style.

>>31059984
Ash vs Stephan was pretty okay, everything else was garbage.
XY's league is way worse in retrospect, considering the reason for the low amount of battles was so Ash could get into the finals, but what's the fucking point if he doesn't win? The league basically had 3 battles

>>31060065
Not implying that XY league is worse than BW league by the way. That shit is unsaveavble

>>31060029
Meh, just think about Noctowl as his Psychic type. It's the closest thing he will get.

>>31060065
Ash Vs. Shota and Ash Vs. Alan were still excellent battles. The last 5 seconds of Ash losing to Alan doesn't negate the fact that most of the battle up to that point was great.

>>31059953
>>31060120
Ash-Paul remains the gold standard for league battles, though. Tough to imagine any will top that one.

RIP Princess Leia

FUCK. Carrie Fisher passed away. Princess Leia. :(

>>31060140
She was only 60 holy shit

>>31060120
Satoshi vs Shota was the second best battle I've seen in this chinese cartoon, second only to vs Shinji. But the battle vs Alan felt rushed, only Pikachu and Bisharp shined in each team, and the shit at the end made it worse: namely the orange shuriken and the bit with Manon.

>>31060140
This
>3 episodes, good screentime for most of ash's mons aside from jobterra
>constsnt switches in battle, something the 6v6s in XY lacked
>paul using ash's own strategy against him
>fucking type wild during infernape vs electivire
You know they had to pull tobias out of their ass because ash vs paul was basically the culmination of the entire DP series. It might as well be the last battle of the series as well considering tobias' battle consisted of modtly one shots

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Adamant, is this important? https://twitter.com/oha2aniki/status/813772201761513473

Doesn't seem to be directly Pokemon-related, but it features a lot of the usual suspects:

12/29(木)26:05〜 の #OHAOHAアニキ は名場面&未公開映像満載の総集編!高橋名人、松風雅也さん、よゐこ有野晋哉さん、ロバート山本博さん、中川翔子さん、イマクニ?さん、渋谷直角さん、バンダイ川口名人登場!斉木楠雄情報も!

>>31060171
>>31060176
Shit, why can't Rica die?

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>>31060140
>>31060171
>>31060176
;_;

Carrie Fisher was a heavy drug user when she was younger too. See, this is why you don't do drugs. You die at a young age of 60.

For any Star Wars fan this is devastating. She played one of the most popular female characters in movie history.

>>31060171
RIP

Mark Hammil tweeted:

https://twitter.com/HamillHimself/status/813816434073579521

>>31060403
F.

>>31060524
This is just a gut punch. What a terrible way to end an already sucky year.

>>31060262
Why would you want that?

>>31060555
Probably one of those "I want a new protagonist!" faggots.

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that faggola here

2016

we're fucking done

get the fuck out

pack your bags asap

Goku's Japanese VA is like 80 years old now, I wonder if Dragonball Super will end if she gets too old or gets sick and can't play the character anymore. Would Japan accept a new Goku voice after 30 years?

>>31060599
Not to be a rude ass about it, but shut up, Scott.

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>>31060581
I don't know what we did to deserve this.

Pixiv rankings in December 24:
Lillie: 2500
Chicken: 1899
Lana: 1014
Lusamine: 807
Mallow: 477
Acerola: 421

Pixiv rankings in December 27:
Lillie: 2700 (+200)
Chicken: 1969 (+70)
Lana: 1059 (+45)
Lusamine: 829 (+22)
Mallow: 495 (+18)
Acerola: 448 (+27)

>>31060641
Fuck off.

There are like 800 Carrie Fisher threads across >>>/tv/, >>>/co/ and even one here >>31060302. Take this to one of them.

>>31060688
Well it just happened. Its the same way people reacted when Spock died of the original Star Trek. Star Wars and Star Trek were the first really big huge franchises in the U.S., and all their actors are getting up in the years.

Adam West (the 60's Batman), William Shatner (Captain Kirk), Stan Lee, Harrison Ford, or Patrick Stewart (Captain Picard and Prof. Xavier), are the next oldest ones people should be worried about.

>>31060721
Fuck off, Scott.

>>31060721
I'm more worried about Swanna Girl than anything else.

XY-XYZ anime ost when?

>>31060754
It could be a while, if ever. Still no official BW soundtrack either, except for a select handful of tracks.

>>31060555
So Ash can fuck off. With Carrie, I least wanted to see Leia in episode 9.

>>31060779
Did they release past gens full ost?

>>31060791
Well she'll be in Episode 8 at least, all her scenes have already been filmed. In Episode 9 she'll probably just be off-screen, I doubt they'll kill her off in-universe.

>>31060810
They released most of the tracks from OS-DP in one big anthology back in 2010. Nothing else since besides the CD release with those few BW tracks.

Reminder that Serena is not Ash's endgame, they will not marry nor have kids

It would be funny if luchabro fight trump

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Two months

>>31060885
t. Latias

New bred, in memoriam edition:
>>31060911
>>31060911
>>31060911

;_;

>>31060925
Its sad to think how quickly the anime changed in just 2 months and 10 episodes.

Nobody could have ever predicted the Sun/Moon Ash would come right after XY.

>>31060939
fuck off scott

>>31060403
Trump spares no one.

Gosh i miss the old XY anime. I thought they will change the series.