/ptcgg/ Pokémon TCG/O General: Where's Blastoise? edition

>Are you going to the prerelease, anon?

No

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I won't be going, digitally player only.

when it comes to trading packs, what would be fair trades? do people trade cards for packs? I could really go for some ghost pokemon.

>>29347823
why not?

I've never been to a prerelease but it sounds fun and you know you'll never be the most awkward guy in the room so that's a bonus

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Is getting your cards graded a meme?

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>>29347929
I'd have to spend money to get there. i'm poor

>>29348393
>poison gas
>the defending pokemon is now asleep
Classic.

Also same here t b h

So what's up with all the tcg artwork in the catalog right now? Why so much interests all of the sudden?

How can i win the new theme decks?

>it's a 'you can't play gardevoir because everyone is playing scizor because they busted volcanion' episode

Is there really anything exciting coming in Evolutions?

>>29347929
>why not?

Not him, but i just hate the new structure. I liked the older method and the fact that there was only one prerelease promo. And don't get me started on how they dole out packs after the three rounds are up.

>>29350211

People are compensating for that by running Talonflame BREAK.

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>tfw I don't have money to buy a 100 dollar booster box just to create a deck in game
What's the easiest good deck you can create?

>>29350538
RR is the cheapest tiered deck but volcanion-ex is banned until november so it doesn't work :^) :^) :^)
I'd go for a vespiquen deck.

>>29350704
>vespiquen deck
link?

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Just faced a mew-ex on standart, wtf TPCi why you revive him but put shitty reprints on the anniversary set.

>>29350961
http://thecharizardlounge.com/2016/09/05/the-buzz-on-vespiquen-without-battle-compressor/
Replace shaymemes with 2 remoraid and 2 octillery unless you want to spend over 160 packs for them.

>only made 2 packs today
gah

Think they'll rerelease bs2 or jungle? I really dig the style of older cards, and love the look of Clefairy, but it is the only Fairy type card in the old card style...

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>trying to farm monthly prices
>get matched up with people with actual deck

>>29353430
Just play theme then

>>29347781
>TotT: Are you going to the prerelease, anon?

I am going, I recently bought a bunch of cards physically and will probably have my scizor deck ready in a week.

Will also give me a chance to see the kind of people playing and see if anyone has shaymemes they wanna sell to me for a price lower than ebay prices. Usually there are people around in the scene with extras or know people with extras.

>>29353873
Prereleases don't let you bring your own deck. You get a shitty premade box, then you draft from a handful of packs.

>>29353953
I wasn't planning to use my own deck (cards are actually still shipping along with sleeves) , I was planning to just scope out my scene to see how much of a mistake I made with my deck.

Also just to talk to people and get a feel how the scene is like. TCG players seem chill.

I want to go to the prerelease but I'm probably the only guy in town who knows there's going to be one. Everyone here is obsessed with mtg

>>29347781
>Are you going to the prerelease, anon?
Yes if we will have any here in Finland.

>>29354647
Mikä prerelease?

>>29354820
Jaa et tiiä et mikä se on vai että missä? En tiiä et missä ja millon, joskus kuulemma Poromagia ja Puolenkuunpelit järjestäny noita, seuraa pkmn.foorumi.eu:ta ni siellä sanotaan jos niitä on.

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I wonder what the ability does, the attack might do 20 damage to bench or just heal 20 so nothing too spectacular.

>>29355093
When you evolve it, look at opponent's hand and discard 1 card from there. Attack heals 20 and removes special conditions.

>>29354820
>>29355063
Ja just katoin sieltä ni Tampereella ois Evolutions prerelease 2.11, nähään siellä ;)

>>29355138
That could be funny with Forest and Devolution spray and Delinquent etc.

>>29355149
7.11*

>prerelease staff promos are already selling for $20
I don't want to go and Evolutions is a shit set, but the cards look fucking nice
Do they at least let you pick which promo you get?

HELP
I'm going to the pre-release in my area and I have no experience in this pokemon "draft", I have been slowly and steadily getting my trainer cards, but since the opportunity presented I'm playing.

Also, which one is the best promo card to get?
I just want not-machamp.

>>29355693

Nope, it's random.

>>29355693

The pre-release for steam siege i went to in Australia didn't give promos to everyone. Was a bit pissy about that.

>>29351169
Then don't use the shitty reprint, nobody is forcing you famalam

I currently have MMewtwo and MScizor, what should I build next? Maybe a deck without Garbodor for a change

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>10 more days until the next expansion

>>29357228
>102 more days until the next expansion that actually impacts the meta

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did any of you do well? I got 2nd in VG masters in arizona. I'm going to fort wayne I already bought plane tickets. if you wanna talk to another dude from /vp/ and you're not too autistic we can do that. if you're interested in splitting a hotel room with me we can talk about that too

>>29357371
>splitting a hotel room
>With anyone from /VP/
I don't know famalam, I wouldn't recommend anyone from here :^)

>>29357558
I'm a pretty cool guy

>>29357570
I don't know, meeting up with anyone from VP pretty autistic, might be better from a better board like biz or fit, otherwise you might be sleeping with people telling you how much they love to fug their vaporeon

>>29348203
only if you're a fucking casual. don't grade anything that won't pay off the grading fee for starters.

it's mostly used for preserving old cards in a safe and secure case. if you're not doing it for your personal collection, don't bother.

unless you're a collector and you have the time/money to open old ass packs looking for that one perfect charizard, you better forget about it.

>>29357670
>Implying /fit/ is less autistic
rather listen to vaporeon erotica than waking up to a 200lbs guy sucking my dick to get his protein for gainz

>>29357670
i only browse fit and this general and sometimes /a/

>>29357371
I'm from Boston but used to be from that area actually, good luck anon.

I'm getting into the physical card game recently so if you ever end up in the area we might see each other.

>>29357371
Someone post the /k/ brownie image

>>29355138
Discarding just one card and for a stage 2 isnt that good, youll waste more resources than your opponent.

>>29358363
still.. relatively low energy cost for 80+20 and the special conditions

don't know why I didn't open the kalos tin earlier.. the irl tin was only xerneas ex and 4 boosters, but it's a whole rainbow deck online


>tfw from iceland and don't even know what a prerelease is because it's so far removed

>>29356184
They might not have got enough. TPCi is absolutely shit about sending promos outside US. My local league hasn't got any in the last year for no real reason.

>>29358535
I think you pay X amount of money and get X amount of packs and then you make a 40-card deck somehow and you don't need to bring or own deck, or you are not allowed to do that.

Somebody who has actually attended one please let us know how it works.

I kind of want to build a deck with MAmpharos and Rough sea, you guys think it could be any fun?

>>29359616
Its going to be meme tier mainly for the fun of it famalam, you'll just get wiped out if you play against the competitive meta decks.

>>29359820
That's what I figured, but almost nobody on ladder seems to have good deck anyways so I figured why not

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Do you think Mario Pikachu and Green Mario Pikachu will be worth using?

>>29360261
>Green Mario Pikachu
lel

>go to prerelease
>leave as the only person who did not get an ultra rare
>got the Machamp promo too

Kill me. Also secret rares appear to be one per box.

I hope we get a full art sun and moon ace trainer

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>>29360261
wow it's really happening

>>29360488
Why would I make it up?

>>29360261
where are you getting this from?

>>29361053
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/10/21/pikachu-mario-crossover-brings-cute-new-merchandise-japan/

>>29360261
Probably not viable. I do like those sleeves, though.

The legendary bird decks have some pretty nice cards in them. VS Seeker, Laserbank, N, Colress, holo energies.

Worth picking some up if you need some things like that.

>>29361876
Where are they

>>29361905
Wal Mart

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Decided to open a RS pack with my remaining 200 pokecoins and this happened.

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>>29361922
See staples, buy staples. Those decks are a great start or you can buckle down for one of these.

>>29362205
Prefer this card over the full art. Congrats on the pull.

>>29362351
one of the few where this is objectively true

why is sh.ex rated so much higher than octillery? I know you need two cards to get octillery, but you can just keep him on the bench and get the effect without the turn inbetween when you have to play someone else

plus.. this is ultra rare, and the other isn't, so it should be more commonly used, right?

so I'm pretty new to the game, was sad to see no gengar ex in standard. saw news about a gengar ex box coming out soon, as well as a chest or something with mega gengar ex as the promo. apparently the gengar ex is a promo reprint of the phantom forces gengar ex. so does that make gengar ex accessible again for standard? if they're bringing these two cards out are we likely to see the spirit link for them?

>>29362384
It's mostly about the instant effect. You can easily get a very good set up with Shaymin on turn 1. Octillery can be better if your deck doesn't set up quickly and you'd need some more turns. There's also deck space to consider.

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>>29362434
Gengar-EX and spirit link remain expanded since the box includes the phantom forces print and not a new promo one. You can include the Shiny M-Gengar in your standard decks but will have no way to put it into play.

Why do people not pay attention to how many cards they have left? Just won two games fairly close together because my opponent ran out of cards.

It also happened against a Typhlosion deck the other day, which is slightly more understandable. These two were just brainless 'play every card I have and draw loads of cards, even though I don't need to' mistakes. It felt like I was playing against the AI.

Obligatory 'you have a good deck' when their card count hits zero.

>>29362553
>You can include the Shiny M-Gengar in your standard deck

Not the same guy btw, but how can you do this? Bulbapedia says it only came out in Japan and I don't think it's available in PTCGO.

>>29362816

You know you could have just deleted the second post?

>>29362758
They're probably digging for something like a DCE and having bad luck.

>>29362758
A lot of players get into a sort of "I can so I should" tunnel vision. This also happens when there are so many people in this current meta that just toss around N for no reason. Its tempting to dump your hand as fast as possible before your opponent can randomly N to put you both at the mercy of the awful shuffle system

>>29362758
ts coming out in the new collectors chest

>>29362867
>>29362885

These are valid points, but I'm talking about really dumb stuff like playing Sycamore when you have 6 cards left.

The last one actually played a super rod to replenish his deck and then Sycamored to 0 anyway. I would have probably won regardless, but he just gifted the game to me.

>>29360261

I NEED IT

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Going for a meme deck run on this lame vs ladder.

Will post results.

>>29362553
>calling it a promo card in all their advertising
>not promo, surplus shitty PF holo
>bringing out a new mega gengar ex
There goes my smile

>just got a shaymeme for 38 packs
huh

>>29363079
Yes daddy. May the memes be kind and spiders oh so poisonous.

Boy oh boy I love drawing all 4 VS Seekers before a draw supporter every fucking game.

>>29363590
You can always cut them if you're not happy

>>29363100
did you put up a trade or just find one?

Went to the prerelease today with a friend. Had a great time went 2 wins out of 3. The cards are cool, but the quality is shit. I was hoping they would use the old foil effect like in the Japanese release and the base set cards. Instead we get a chinese tier holo effect.
What the fuck TPCi

>>29363724
I put it up.

>>29363840
They did use the old foil effect, just not on the prerelease promos.

>>29364016
My friend pulled 2 holo Raichus and the effect looks cheap. I have old holos, and they look awesome. The new effect is just shit.

>>29363079
What's your deck list?
I have one of those decks and looking to improve it.

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>>29364218
Using Omnipoke build for now.

The first Evolutions booster box on Youtube got multiple damaged cards, duplicate ultra rares in both Full Art and regular, multiple secret rares in a pack and other dumb shit. This set is all sorts of fucked up.

>>29364602
Link?

>>29364628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmltTa7bIK0

>>29364668
>box visibly beaten up
>one pack already open
wew

>>29364668
Quality

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Just came back from a pre-release event and I was able to get some of the full arts I wanted. Full art misty is a thing to behold. Can't wait to hunt down full art brock!

>>29365240
>people getting this
>my best show was a reverse Charizard

>>29360261
>3 days ago
>not on pokebeach
N-NANI!?

What will the packs be worth after Evolution comes out?

>>29365743
4 ariados, final answer

Some guy on twitch is playing ptcgo but doesn't know how to play and he has 500 viewers

>>29366002
What's he (not) doing?

>>29365277
I actually also got the promo Charizard, but I traded him due to my sentimental value with mewtwo. Pic also includes Hitmonchan.

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>>29366061
Whoops, forgot pic. I are dumb tard.

>>29366035
Made a shit tier deck with flareon ex and gyrados ex and tierno too, I think he used deck wizard tbqh

Lol now he's getting beat by an ai, here's the stream twitch/firedragon764

>>29366313
Damn. Haven't seen his stream since he played Luigi's Mansion speedruns years ago.

No plans on going back just to see him get pounded and quit after 3 days.

>>29366313
>runs out of turn time trying to grab a flareon with a dive ball

>>29366313
What the fuck am I even watching?

>>29366313
>has SRs and FAs
huh?

>>29366983
Do you not have those?

>>29367320
I do.
Why does a shitter like him have them?

>>29367445
Because trading is a joke and it shouldn't take you more than two weeks to max out your collection.

>>29367445
He bought 50 packs and opened them all.

>Before, Burned required you to flip a coin between turns and, if tails, place two damage counters on the Burned Pokemon. With the new ruling change, Burned now requires you to automatically place two damage counters on the Burned Pokemon between turns and then flip a coin to determine if it will remain Burned.
No one's talking about this?

>>29367803
Well to be honest, burn has been an irrelevant status effect for a pretty decent amount of time due to gamefreak barely using the effect.

Hell, pretty much any status but sleep or paralysis is barely used. Confusion is a pretty rare effect nowadays and even poison is used a ton more.

>>29368042
Poison is easily the most-used status effect by a very long shot.

Bring back plus power you double niggers

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>29368087
Depends on format.

Expanded it's by far the most used due to stadium effects and hypnotoxic.
Standard it's the most used if only because gamefreak seems to give lots of poison around.

It's honestly hard to numerate what's the most used but burn is definitely the least used because gamefreak doesn't give it out.

>>29362553

>Open a fighting fury pack
>Get Dragonite EX
>At least it's getting reprinted as a promo
>Lel no

fuck you tpci

>>29365240

>Best pull last prerelease from six packs was Yvetal BREAK
>No regular Yvetal

I'm probably gonna get fucked again

>>29368180
Bring back Scoop Up
Bring back Tool Scrapper
Bring back Junk Arm

>>29368371
>tool scrapper
>wanting vileplume to be bdif

>>29368422
Vileplume is inconsistent ass right now, what would tool removal do to help him?

>>29368469
>vileplume placing in top8 regionals
>b-but its inconsistent guise

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>>29368180
>>29368371
>Bring back cards so we can reuse old ideas. Thinking is hard!

>>29368469
It turns off Garbodor
>#2, #9, and #18 in regionals
>ass

>>29368509
>make a mechanic countered by another mechanic
>remove the counter mechanic, the other mechanic is now unbalanced

>>29367803
It's week old news and there aren't any cards that use burn well.

>>29368264
>gamefreak in tcg

is this true?

>>29368537
I'm not sure they're directly involved but they pretty clearly work together.

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>>29368371
If we're going to reprint cards, why not bring back some of the older cards that haven't seen the light of day in over a decade?

With how old the game is and with how many good and unique cards we've had over the game's long history, it's pretty ass to keep getting the same handful of HGSS-on cards reprinted and recycled over and over and over and over again. We've been using Juniper, N, and Ultra Ball for over half a decade now.

>>29368661
Yes yes yes yes yes
They should do what they're doing with Evolutions but sprinkle a little bit into every set from now on.

Legacy format ever? The WotC era needs some love

>>29368832
Online? Yes, go ahead

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Any oldfags got one of these bad boys? Wish I could afford to buy these and the Brock and Misty Demo decks

Sure is nice not having to put up with Volcanion bullshit for a couple weeks.

Is 15 energy too much? Going lower makes me feel more vulnerable to disruption

>>29371748
No deck runs 15 energy. 7-12 is the normal range.

>>29371748
Maybe if you're running typhlosion

Anyone have any current tricks for exploiting the trade market? Really just looking for cards that are exploitable at the moment.

>>29357816
>Grading cards ever

>>29372806
>open a deck
>pick an uncommon at random
>buy 4 of them for one pack
>sell 2 for one pack

>>29372867
This was actually surprisingly helpful

>>29373176
Not surprising, that's pretty much the advice that got the ball rolling for me.
Once you get established play around a bit, some cards will go 8 for a pack.

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>Your old IRL cards are probably fake or not worth caring about. Check TrollandToad, eBay, and TCGplayer instead of asking.

Went through my old collection and found a few cards that seem like they might be worth the effort to sell. Opened from boosters, so not fake. Pic related.

Is there a /vp/ recommended site for selling cards, or should I just hit up a physical store? I'm in the Seattle area if anyone knows a good local one.

>>29372806
If you find something that works make sure you maximize profits your profits son

so is evolutions just a reprint of the entire base set?

they already did that with base 2 though

>>29360261
Translation?

>>29375169
are you retarded?

I hope they reprint vs seeker soon. It's pretty dumb that the only standard set it's in currently is roaring skies as a secret rare

>>29375386
you can still play the phf one

>>29375386

It got reprinted in the Keldeo/Rayquaza thing. I don't play irl, but some anons in this thread said the price dropped pretty significantly after that.

>>29375644
It did, it went down in price from like 10 bucks or some shit to like 2 or 4 dollars or some shit.

If anything, getting into expanded is a bitch right now and that's what my local scene is playing. I bought two jirachis, computer search, etc and it all came to around 100 bux. It's annoying but whatever.

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How do I download the TCGO game on my phone? It says it's not compatible with this version but I have the latest version on my Note 3?

>>29377091
The issue isn't your version, it's your device. They only want you to play it on tablets.

Just download the apk from a third-party site.

>>29377117
Can I download that on my iphone 3gs?

>>29377117
k, thanks m8

>>29377134
Just download the apk from a third-party site.

>>29347781
>TotT: Are you going to the prerelease, anon?
No, because UPS fucked up shipping for my store.

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Jesus fucking hell, how expensive Team Magma's secret base can be? I see someone asking for it for 6 SS. And few people asking 10SS for it, I'm not even sure anymore if I should sell mine for 6SS, even though I was able to trade 4 of these for basically total of 2SS lmao.

>>29359424
>>29358535
entry is ~$25 used to be you get 6 packs and a promo and you make a deck from that, now its still 25 but you get 5 packs and a semi-constructed 20 card deck and one of 4 promos to help you build a consistent deck of 4 when combined with cards from the packs you got

>>29377846
new meme gyarados will do funny things.

>>29377846
Gyarados is T1, these are only going up

PKTC has reduced the relative value of Steam Siege packs. I'm guessing this is temporary because of the Volcanion-EX suspension?

>>29378969
It's because they want to make more profit, and retards actually believe any trading company has any influence whatsoever on the actual price of a digital product.

>>29378993
Man these threads trash talk trading companies at every possible opportunity. These guys have their uses

>>29378993

So are people actually accounting for Volcanion-EX or not?

Very few of my purchase trades went through overnight last night. I use SS so I wasn't sure if this was just a coincidence or SS genuinely has lost value.

What theme deck is best farming tourney packs on ptcgo?

>>29379170
Ocean's Core

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>>29348203
>someone saves a pic you took from reddit
It has come full circle now

>Is getting your cards graded a meme?
People only get their card graded if they are going to sell them.

Which I need to do with my Plasma Storm Charizard to make some nice extra cash.

>>29379150
It hasn't.

Evolutions is a shit set and has very few good cards, SS actually should go up in value when it's rotated out because lots of good cards can be opened from the packs.

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>>29360261
I want this
No, I need this.

>>29379431
>SS actually should go up in value when it's rotated out because lots of good cards can be opened from the packs.

I would definitely agree with this. I was just thinking short-term really with regards to the Volcanion-EX suspension till early November.

Ace spec 2.0 when?

>>29380395
I thought they were going to release some of the older cards that were retardely broken like computer search again as ace spec cards. Like Ace Spec energy removal or computer search or shit like that

But nah, fuck that.

I saw in the online store some theme decks from the HG/SS era, I was planning to buy one but can seem to find them anymore.

>>29381216
They were glitched so they took them down to fix them.

Just traded a FA Misty for a FA M Alakazam, Alakazam EX, RH Oak, and a few commons.
The guy I was trading with wanted Misty to jack off to
kek

>>29381354
misty actually has a use though

>>29381365
No, it doesn't.

>>29381365
Does anyone actually play Misty? I haven't seen it in months.

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>>29381365
>Misty being more playable than Alakazam/Gengar

I went through my attic earlier to do some cleaning, and I found two full binders with 100+ pages of card sleeves (9 per page), both pages filled front and back. It's mostly cards from the first three or four sets ever released, all first editions and in unreasonably good condition. There's at least $400 of my childhood allowance up there.

Is there a reliable site that has prices on cards from back then? I'm gonna sell them and try to make a few bucks since I quit playing the TCG as a kid. I found a bunch of sites, but they're all ad-riddled and have varying prices on the same cards.

>>29381416
troll and toad

>>29381441
Wow, I almost thought you were throwing an insult, but that's an actual site. Peculiar name.

Thanks for the site. Here's hoping I can bank at least $200 off of what I have.

>>29381490
I dunno why it's called that. It could be because of Seismitoad, but I doubt it.

>>29381490
show em desu

>>29381557
It's mtg related

Getting really sick of all of these "I'm totally immune to X" cards. Its as stupid as item lock for essentially the same reason. Looking at you Carbink/Regice/Glaceon

>>29381829
Regice and Carbink are needed for the game's balance. They're a way for players without a ton of cash to be able to build good decks. If they weren't there, every deck would be EXs.

>>29381829
>hes losing to shit cards like safegaurds
They've been in the game for a long time and have never been good

>>29381888
>every deck would be EXs.
Not true. EX are actually at one of their weakest points in a long time, and decks can always win prize trades against them. If Garbodor wasn't a thing, you'd see way more evolution decks.

>>29381829
What are Hex Maniac and Pokemon Ranger

>>29381441
I'm still mad they send my custom deck without tracking code, mailman lost it and can't fill a complain because it has no price registered for the secure work

>>29381888
That doesn't make a single bit of sense, though. The reason those cards are cheap is because they're fucking shit cards. There's no such thing as a dedicated budget option like you're implying.

>>29382127
The reason they're cheap is because they're more common. Joltik was like 20 cents and it was amazing.

>>29382187
Joltik was literally a common. Meanwhile, uncommons like VS Seeker sold for $12+ despite being in one of the most-bought sets of the format. Even now it's still pushing $5 despite a reprint.

Regice is a rare. Glaceon and Jolteon are EXs. If they weren't pure shit, they wouldn't be affordable.

This is really getting off-topic, though. The point here is that >>29381888 is a really, really dumb statement.

>>29381954
Cards that nobody seriously runs more than one of in any deck. Add enough tech and eventually your deck just bricks to inconsistency.

>>29382308
Regice and Carbink are still much less expensive than EX decks, though. They're in the game to offer a cheap counter to other decks. Think about it: If you were a kid, just starting out, and got destroyed by things like Jolteon, Shaymins, Rayquazas, etc. at the league, would you really want to keep playing if you couldn't get a counter on the cheap?

>>29382410
The problem is, they're a "counter" without counterplay. If your only "budget" solution is to make the card entirely untouchable outside of single tech options, its a poorly designed solution.

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>>29382452
There is counterplay, though
It's called putting in a non-EX

>>29382471
>Just stop playing the archtype because the printed counter is poorly thought out

Swell. You should start a TCG company.

>>29382410
>If you were a kid, just starting out, and got destroyed by things like Jolteon, Shaymins, Rayquazas, etc. at the league, would you really want to keep playing if you couldn't get a counter on the cheap?
And then you buy your Regice for $1 each and maybe you drop your allowance for a $15 Jolteon and then...you still lose against the same exact EX decks because that's now how this card game works. Just because they literally work against a specific card type does not mean they counter jack shit.

>>29382452
They have radically common counterplays, though. This is why they don't top tournaments on their own. No one showed up at Orlando with a lmaoCarbink deck and went on to top. The decks that did use Jolteon/Glaceon/Regice were packed full of non-budget options to actually make them work, and they absolutely would not have functioned without the expensive cards carrying them.

It doesn't help that these counterplays are being run regardless of the presence of Jolteon/Glaceon/Regice/Carbink. Garbodor goes in most topping decks. Every deck runs a pair of Lysandre. Ranger is already being teched as a 1-of to deal with Giratina. People ran Hex in Orlando to predict the Vileplume play. Decks like Scizor were already running Cobalion. The list goes on. When people are already running outs regardless of the presence of "counters", then these cards aren't counters.

This whole discussion is retarded and shows a really poor understanding of the game, the meta, and what it means for a card to be considered budget.

>>29381829
I actually love these cards. There's nothing funnier than screwing those guys over with Garbodor/Rangers and watching them ragequit

>>29381390
>>29381399
>>29381413
>The guy wanted Misty to jack off to

>>29382383
Everyone plays 4 VS Seeker. The only way you'd get shafted is if it's in your prizes. You also have Lysandre which most decks run 2 of. You should try playing Legacy where you can literally lock people with Suicune if they don't play certain tech cards.

>>29381490
worth looking at leddit. some sap will eagerly price your shit so you can get ballpark figures at least.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pkmntcgtrades/

>>29382588
Putting in a ranger or a basic non-ex that does damage isn't 'abandoning the archetype'

>>29382675
>You should try playing Legacy where you can literally lock people with Suicune if they don't play certain tech cards.
It's funny because Suicune is shit in Legacy too. The only relevant EX deck runs a staple tool that gets around it.

>>29382724
I dunno man, I've seen quite a few snap concedes from VirGen players as soon as I drop it. Or they end up spending all their resources digging for the G-Booster, by which time you can KO them so it's moot.

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>>29382588
>your entire posting history
get out of here kid

>>29382829
>history on a board without IDs

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>>29382857

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So can you recommend any store with deck and booster codes with good prices? I want to return to TCGO and buy 2-3 decks and few boosters

>go to prerelease
>get FA misty and brock
>prerelease pack has charizard

Literally everything I need out of this bad set.

>>29384074
Are you trying to get into the game online or physical?

If physical, don't buy boosters to start. Buy the actual cards for your deck and then once you have a deck buy boosters to trade with players.

If you're trying to get into it digitially then just buy the actual codes themselves off ebay.

What's the best standard deck to play Octillery in? I pulled 3 over the week end, would like to use them

>>29384659
the only deck i can think that would really like extra late game draws would maybe be greninja or raikou, maybe chomp

>>29384736
So meme decks? Guess I should just trade them then

>all the decks with old deckboxes in my collection changed to my generation's charizard deckbox

rip those crisp, clean white and white deckboxes

>>29384843
Its a poor-man's Shaymeme with the upshot that you can do it every turn.

>>29379150
>Very few of my purchase trades went through overnight last night.
I've had the same issue, actually.
Trading has been real slow lately.

>>29385867
I had the opposite happen actually, I had a bunch of trades going on at night and they were all traded for.

I think it just is a crapshoot. I'm still trading for steam siege for now and trying to keep my main collection in steam siege since Evolution will skew the market prices a bit and how I price things..

>>29382597
> The decks that did use Jolteon/Glaceon/Regice were packed full of non-budget options to actually make them work
Let's see
>manaphy ex
>cheaper than glaceon
>mew ex
>cheaper than jolteon
>magearna ex
>cheaper than all the above
The only expensive ex (other than shaymin of course) in Vileplume is Jolteon, and you only run two.

>>29385898
>I'm still trading for steam siege for now and trying to keep my main collection in steam siege since Evolution will skew the market prices a bit and how I price things

This is something I was unsure about. I didn't start trading till well after SS came out and so I don't really know what to when we get the changeover.

My collection is pretty much all in Steam Siege. Do I hold onto them until the market figures out what Evolutions boosters are worth? Also, do you just convert to the new set by purchasing using Steam Siege and selling for Evolutions?

>>29379150

I'm this anon btw.

>>29347781

ToTT: Went to one yesterday, got the Charizard one and opened M Venusaur EX, FA Mewtwo EX, FA M Pidgeot EX, and Nidoking BREAK

>>29350275

Strange, we have almost 50 players for the Prerelease in the Masters Division and we had to play 5 rounds I went 5-0

>>29386194
I'd still trade in steam siege until the market stabilizes, it's what I plan to do. There's enough in circulation it shouldn't be a problem right away.

And depends, it'll probably all convert to mainly trading with evolutions eventually. Steam Siege will probably be a higher trade value card just like Roaring Sky is right now.

>>29386651

Thanks for clearing that up. I think I will stick with SS for a bit, at least until we know what Evolutions is worth.

>it'll probably all convert to mainly trading with evolutions eventually

I'm fairly certain it will. Evolutions will be the pack given out for winning events and so will be the most prevalent. I'm just not sure if you should try and convert in one big go, or do it slowly by buying with SS and selling for Evolutions.

>go to prerelease
>pull FA Pidgeot and Imakuni's Doduo in one pack

Cool birds.

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Picked the TCG back up after going to the prerelease today.

What kind of decks are common / where can I go for deck building shit?

>>29386194
prices go haywire when a new set comes out and are all over the place for a week or so. Typically, the previous set quickly drops in value soon after. Although, with Evolutions not being great, the chances are good that SS will stay decently worth.

Still, the safest bet is to get out of packs altogether. Invest in some high-value cards that will hold their value (e.g. FA Lysandre/Shaymin/etc.) through the changeover and once Evolutions settles you can cash back down to packs at the new market rate.

>>29387228
pokebeach / sixprizes / charizardlounge are good sites to frequent.

The current Standard Meta (although, there's only been one major tournament) is outlined near the bottom of this page: http://thecharizardlounge.com/2016/10/18/weekend-report-8-recapping-florida-regional-the-garbage-man-can/ and there's a decent round-up of the non-tiered decks here: http://thecharizardlounge.com/2016/09/11/2016-2017-early-season-pokemon-tcg-standard-tier-list/

reminder that ultra ball will NEVER rotate and you will always look poor

>>29387278
>Still, the safest bet is to get out of packs altogether. Invest in some high-value cards that will hold their value (e.g. FA Lysandre/Shaymin/etc.)

Thanks for the advice; trying to get hold of Shaymin atm. I have enough for several, but never bothered with them before because I was focused more on trading than playing.

Does this also work with high-value packs like RS, or do they go a bit nuts as well?

>Typically, the previous set quickly drops in value soon after.

Why does this happen? Surely if it's harder to get, it would be worth a bit more?

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>Go to prerelease
>Get Venusaur EX
>Literally nothing else
>Everyone else gets at least two good pulls
>First match was against a friend who pulled a full art Mewtwo EX
>Got swept, only for him to hold off on attacking to win the game long enough for me to set up a little
Still don't know if that was nicer than the alternative or not.
>mfw I came in 4th place so I didn't get any extra packs

Should I sell my pre-release charizard? Shit's going for 60+ bucks on jewbay.

>>29388119
God yes.

>>29388119
Obviously.
You can buy it back afterwards.

>>29388487
>>29388301
Made a listing for a bidding starting at 34 dollars with a buy now option of 65. Lets see if someone bites.
Shit, If I can sell it I would only need 30 bucks and I can get a booster box lmao.

When starting an account on PTCGO the boosters you get from beating up the AI are not trade-able and thus safe to open right?

>>29388862
Yes, you can tell because they have a lock icon under them.

>>29389049
Thanks! I was hovering over the icon to get the popup but it didn't came up for some reason.

>run an energy denial deck
>keep meeting decks with 15+ energy
>one shitter in a tournament here had 24

>>29389416
What was the tournament age range, 8-10?

>>29387550
RS is a pretty sound investment yes, and the standard. As good as high value cards for holding value.

>Why does this happen?
idk, I'm not an economist, i just know from experience and seeing it the last few sets. As soon as SS came out, FC was shit. As soon as FC came out, BKP was shit.. I expect the why is simply because it's been out for a while. Everyone active in the game in general has gotten what they need from the old set for the most part - Four FA Sycamores, FA Volcanions, or whatever, so people don't particularly want to take in SS packs any more if they can avoid it. Plus there'll be some hot topic item in the next set people want, or just for collections sake. (I don't actually know if Evolutions has anything worth chasing, seems a shitty set). As a result, the newest thing is overvalued and the older ones dip for a while. It could come back up again later if people decide yes Volcanion-EX is ~all that~, but that's a gamble. RS holds it's value for ever because of Shaymeme.

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>>29389416
>play anti-meta deck
>don't play against meta decks
>lose and complain
Acquire proficiency in reading your local metagame, unless you're playing online, then you deserved to lose for being an idiot.

>>29389721
>tfw can't play scizor because locals are playing volcanian and flareon decks

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What's in this thing?

>>29390301
The prerelease promo and the cards it came with.

>tfw applied for professor program a month ago
>they still havent' gotten back to me
this shit takes forever

>>29387550
>Surely if it's harder to get, it would be worth a bit more?
The minting slows down, so you would expect it to inflate slower or even deflate long-term
But keep in mind that nobody will want to deal in SS after Evolutions is released. So the people with hundreds are going to be dumping it all and trying to convert it to Evolutions.
Also I suspect that the packs aren't truly backed by their contents, I calculated it and you get about 1.3 packs on average cracking RS and it's like .5 for SS. The effect is probably much larger for the current pack.

>>29390585
evolutions has like 0 good cards in it tho at least compared to evolutions

>>29390648
Yeah when everything settles it wouldn't surprise me if SS ended up being worth more than one evolutions pack.
Most sets aren't that shit though.

>>29390648
It's only good for muh nostalgia for maybe a week and people will realise how shit it actually is

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>>29390648
>evolutions has like 0 good cards
You say that now, and watch one of the cards become really rare and useful.

>>29391711
Dragonite EX and Brock's Grit are the only ones I can see that happening with.

>>29373504
>Opened from boosters, so not fake.

You know that there are fake Pokémon booster packs, right? Post pics so we can maybe tell.

Also, you can sell them in Ebay, Amazon or Facebook groups.

What's the best format we've had?

>>29391813
Toad T1 format

>>29391813
DP during Luxchomp and Night March format are the most important to me.

>>29390648
I can see tool discard Rattata finding its way into Vespiquen deck.

Galactic spin Starmie has potential

And Pull Up Dragonite has some good synergy.

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Will they be removing all the X and Y packs from the online store once the new Su/Mo sets come out?

>>29392132
>tfw s/m set will save tcg

just traded 15 steam siege packs for the light blue energy grid sleeves

lay it on me friends, how retarded am I?

>>29392324
sleeves are stupid

>>29392132

They remove sets from the store when they rotate. The next rotation will likely be Breakthrough-on. This will happen next September.

>>29392324
ptgo is stupid

>>29392376
>This will happen next September
A year from now?? Also I'm kind of new and was planning to buy a theme deck, which one should I buy? I don't really have any cards.

>>29389461
>>29389721
online tourney.

>>29392546
Theme decks are a waste of time and money.

You planning on playing online or irl?

>>29392623
Online, I don't really have a good deck yet. So I'm playing the theme decks. I stopped playing tcg irl in 2013 when I was in high school and started playing again a week ago online.

>>29392546
>A year from now??
Yeah, we just had a rotation.
Don't buy theme decks, the basic electric one is fine for theme.

>>29392324
How much are those even worth

>>29393431

Couldn't tell you. It was the first time I had seen them on the market in two years, so I decided to just suck it up and do the trade.

If one wanted to collect as many cards as possible, for the hell of it, what would be the cheapest method? Ebay a shit. Only other thing I can think is garage sales.

>>29392722
IMO Crushing Current that you get for free is the best theme deck - consistent as fuck and can easily deal enough damage to OHKO anything in theme format. XY Basic Blue is almost as good if you have it, but it's less consistent.

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>add Farfetch'd to deck
>no more night march bullies

>>29387566

You should have got extra packs at the end. TPCI says that everyone should get at least 3 extra at the end.

What does /ptcgg/ think of other TCGs?

>>29396174
Pokemon's easily one of the worst TCGs only carried by its surprisingly competent client, cute card art, and brand nostalgia. If any other card game could get their shit together and put up a better presentation and marketing scheme than Pokemon, it would be done for.

I personally think YGO is the best TCG thanks to its speed, depth, and level of player interaction, but I know that's not a popular opinion. I also think Duel Masters is a better version of Magic, but that's probably even more controversial despite the international appeal.

>>29396211
Having actually played all four of these cards games, I wholeheartedly disagree. Magic is definitely the most indepth and interesting of the TCGs and it's only really held back by it's stigma of complexity and it being a rich man's game.

It doesn't have a good online client like TCG outside of seasonal formats which you still need to buy so there's no casual way to get in outside of buying cards for a season, which isn't appealing for new players since they hardly know what's good or not anyway.

That being said, I like PTCG quite a lot and it has a pretty fun community. I just recently joined a local community and plan to visit the local events more now that I have a physical deck. I kind of wish there were more grills that played the TCG though, maybe I'll find a few eventually. They'll all probably be taken though.

>>29396211
> best TCG thanks to its speed, depth, and level of player interaction
Kek
Too much cost for a card game that can resolve on T1.

>>29389578

OK thanks. Sounds like Steam Siege isn't guaranteed to crash, but investing in cards/RS helps to reduce risk.

Put up some trades for RS packs/Shay mins last night, but I've been in uni today so haven't had chance to check on them (posting from the train).

>>29390585

The Steam Siege flood is a good point. Maybe I should have tried to get out of Stram Siege a little earlier. Hopefully I can still get decent value for them as long as I can trade them before Evolutions turns up.

>>29396636
>>29397040
>Magic is definitely the most indepth and interesting of the TCGs and it's only really held back by it's stigma of complexity and it being a rich man's game.
I'm not saying Magic is bad. I've been playing casually since Mirrodin and I genuinely love it.

I don't think things like price point and accessibility should be considered when judging a game mechanically. It's obviously important to consider for the reasons you state it, but it's not like either game is balanced around a paywall, which is what ultimately matters in my opinion.

I'm also not talking about a specific meta or format in either game. When I made that statement of YGO being better, I was more talking about the underlying mechanics. I can further explain if you genuinely want to have this discussion.

>>29396211
I've been a MTG player from 2003 to 2015 and I honestly like pokemon more. I haven't looked back since I got into pokemon standard last year. The only magic I play now is casual EDH with friends

>>29397070
>I can further explain if you genuinely want to have this discussion.
I'm not him but I'm genuinely interested in why.

>>29397070
>>29397079

Maybe it should be discussed elsewhere? This is the Pokemon board, not a general TCG board.

>>29397118
Generals don't have to be 100% on topic all the time.

>>29397126
This isn't /vg/

>>29397126

Discussions here are disjointed enough without having people discussing other TCGs in the same thread.

>>29397079
It's an issue of the level of player interaction each system offers. My main gripe with Magic (and many other card games) is the underlying resource system found in Lands/Mana/Energy/etc. It limits what each player can do and halters the speed of the game.

Such a system obviously has advantages - it paces the game and allows multiple types of decks to flourish regardless of speed or age (in most cases) - but the cost of that pacing is limitation in options and plays. For example, if my opponent has two untapped Islands, I can expect a Counterspell (or maybe not!), but if he does not have those untapped Islands, then I am free to do what I want even if my opponent has the Counterspell in his hand, because he is hindered by the resource system and as a player I can use this information to my advantage. Obviously there are a lot of specific examples in the game's long history that don't have such limitations, but they go against the norm.

There's obviously a level of depth to this since it means both players need to manage their resources (such as intentionally leaving mana untapped to keep Counterspell live), but then YGO contrasts this by having every card live 100% of the time. Anything on the board, face-down, in the hand, or in the discard can potentially interact with any play at any time since they don't rely on a given resource outside of specific examples, making it more of a mental game as opposed to one of resources. This gives the player a lot more freedom in what he can do with what he has, instead of having to wrestle with himself and his own resources to get basic tasks done.

And this is without even getting into the problem of Land cards themselves, something that Duel Masters tackles perfectly without straying too far from MTG's original resource system.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying Magic is bad, or that a resource-based TCG is inherently worse. I just feel that the speed and fluidity a resource-less TCG offers is better.

I miss my Tyrantrum/Giratina deck. Would it be any good in expanded?

I'm trying to sell a shitload of foils from BW-late XY card sets, and looks like Troll and Toad has a good buylist and is going to buy 100 or so of my cards for a fair amount. Does anyone have experience selling to them?

I have things like that one expensive Shaymin and Trainer N, so they're offering me a lot for them but I've heard mixed reviews about their service. It doesn't seem like there's anywhere else I can sell all my cards though.

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Does anyone here collect cards, or only play on PTCGO?

>>29398315
I collect cards, recently began collecting about a week or two ago.

Bought all the cards I needed for a Keldeo and Scizor deck, dropped like 200 bux overall with most being on the shaymemes.

Will now begin buying packs so I can trade people with, will probably buy a box of an older set because Evolutions is garbo. Probably a box of steam siege.

I already need a new binder since my first binder is basically full.

>>29398315
I play for the actual game. Collecting has never really appealed to me.

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>>29398437
I been collecting for a while now, and I'm still can't bring myself to drop $100 for a Shaymin.

The most I ever paid for a card was $30 bucks, anymore then that I feel like a sucker.

But man, I almost drop $50 for a Mewtwo NexDex.
Why is that card so hard to get at a fair price?

>>29397052
>Put up some trades for RS packs/Shay mins last night, but I've been in uni today so haven't had chance to check on them

Just checked on my trades. Didn't manage to get any RS packs, but I got a Shaymin-EX for a really great price.

>>29398638
I dropped like $120 or so for my two shaymemes, it's the cost of the format I guess.

It's good for a year so whatever and it'll stay in expanded which my area plays a lot of so it works out.

I payed like 40 bux for my two friggin jirachis ex, I feel like I'm wasting a lot but I'm not spending the cash anyway on shit so why not.

Anyone think the Evolutions or Japanese CP6 boxes will be worth to hang on to to sell later on after they're not being printed any more?

>>29398315
I have my Mew collection, my childhood Base-Neo collection, and my Generations collection but I also play competitively.

>>29390648
>Not building a meme deck with Arcanine and Delphox Break when Arcanine Break comes out in a few months

>>29399451
How would you even make an arcanine even work?

All the current arcanines in standard suck a ridiculous amount of dick.
Maybe like Arcanine from evolutions with a Zoroark?

So like set up your growlith, evolve it twice and have two energies, attack with your break attack and now have two energies attached to your bench, use zoroark to bring your arcanine back, then move 2 energies back to your arcanine for its attack?

Holy shit that all sounds slow as fuck and clunky.

Is there a good arcanine hiding somewhere?

>>29396174
I played some MTG, YGO, Hearthstone and Android: Netrunner and honestly I'm surprised at how much I'm liking Pokemon after I started playing it online a few weeks ago. Pokemon manages to give players tons of tools to make their decks incredibly consistent without losing on turn 1 feeling normal. Playing in a A:NR tournament and making it to finals only to lose them due to incredibly bad draw really burned me on that game but I liked the econ aspect of it.

>>29396211

>If any other card game could get their shit together and put up a better presentation and marketing scheme than Pokemon, it would be done for.

And I'm still waiting for that to happen after 10+ years for the "next big thing" to de-throne Pokemon and Yugioh

>Duel Masters
>International appeal

Unless I'm reading you wrong, isn't Duel Masters basically dead outside of Asia? Yes, I remembered WotC's second attempt with Kaijudo

>>29398638

Well, it is a 4 year old card that is also hard to come by. Back when EXs were re-introduced the pull ratios for EXs and Full Arts were not as generous as it is today as well

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>>29398315
I completed all the flygon evolutive line in tcg