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>>28371107
posting based theory

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Reposting weird stuff list from past thread

Within Gen VI
>AZ's floette was in XY but cut for unknown reasons, might return a la Mega Lati@s and Complete Zygarde but who knows
>Pic related, can link to the Noppera-bō, a faceless, humanlike creature that is rumored to consume its victims entirely, then take on their form without a face

Between Gen VII and past games
>Project AZOTH was stated by both Aqua and Magma to return the world to its start, Azoth is a city introduced in Magearna's movie
>Sina and Dexio appear in Alola some time after X and Y take place with the Zygarde Cube, implying an extension to Kalos lore
>Colress, a known researcher, has a look similar to the Aether foundation, but is just coincidental at this point, >>28345153 has these observations
>Type:Null was supposedly created to imitate mythological Pokemon, mask looks similar to Arceus' ring, illustrated in >>28345122
>AZ, Alpha and Omega, Day and Night have a huge "Beginning and End" motive, might be relevant

Within Gen VII
>Type: Null is a man-made mon, suggesting a connection with the Aether Foundation, a research group, but again, coincidental
>UB01 has shapeshifting powers and acts like a young girl, heavy implying a connection with Lillie

Also of note is this guy's >>28344696 → theory about the third Legendary being based on Aristotle, really good observations

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Reposting notes on AZOTH in alchemy

Azoth is the single force -- the "spiritus animatis," as Wikipedia puts it -- of humanity that drives it to attain physical and spiritual perfection. Not only this, the Azoth seems to also have a physical incarnation as the "Elixir of Life" or "The Universal Solvent," and was known as the cure for any mental, spiritual, or physical ailment. Essentially, it's liquid perfection.

Another thing of note is that Azoth's name was constructed from the first and last letters of the Latin, Greek, and Hebrew alphabets, in that order: A/Alpha/Aleph, Z, Omega, and Tau, which ties in to the "Beginning and End" motif present in AZ, and Alpha and Omega.

Additionally, Azoth is another, less used name for the chemical Mercury, which is a part of a very significant trio in alchemy, with the other members being salt and sulfur. The chemical symbols of all three can be seen within the starter Pokemon, as shown in pic related.

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>>28371107

Burnet from pokemon dream radar could be returning based on what we got by the latest trailer,

Burnets name in katakana is バーネット (Banetto) and the Kanji at the end is 博士 (Hakase).

We only see バーネット in the trailer.

This is important because pokemon dream radar was intractable as you can send research data or pokemon to B/W2.

Also pokemon dream radar was released at the same time with B/W2 in all regions.

>>28371388
So is this 100% confirmed or still speculation

>>28371408
the katakana is right there anon, it's pretty obvious at this point

Any guesses on when Arceus created Solgaleo & Lunaala?

Lastly, Reposting the links between the alchemical triangle, Solgaleo, Lunala, and Zygarde:

From >>28346446

>Anima is the sun
>Spiritus is the moon
>Corpus just has a cube to represent it, and the "arrow" that contains the symbol is pointing down
So is the Corpus legendary Earth or something?

From >>28346536

>>28346446
Literally Zygarde

Azoth = 5 planets (5 mons) + Sun/soul + Moon/spirit + physical hermaphrodite body (perfect Z, which have red (Yveltal, Y chromosome) and blue (Xerneas, X chromosome) wings)

Azoth = Solgaleo + Lunala + Zygarde + Xerneas + Yveltal

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>>28371328
>not posting Iwanko version

>>28371421
Her name was confirmed in the last Japanese trailer, but her reputation as professor was not. However, considering that Pokemon usually has a one-name limit for its characters, it's likely that it is indeed her.

>>28371432

When he realized that the Dream Dimension would cause problems for the real world, so he created them as guardians of the entrance.

Going to guess that it all revolves around an eclipse.

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Get cracking lorefags

>>28371469
I had both, but they were separated. Thanks for this.

By the way, it's Rockruff now.

>>28371455
you forgot to add

>Corpus just has a cube to represent it
>Zygarde cube

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>>28371455
Shit, forgot the pic.

>>28371455
that's literally the taco bulbapedo
http://es.pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Zygarde
http://es.pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Solgaleo
http://es.pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Lunala
http://es.pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Magearna

>>28371514
Missed that one. Thanks.

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reposting theory from old thread based on Ultra beased

>>28342859
The Rest Of The Ultra Beasts Will Be Based Around The World Tree: Yggdrasil... Yes Norse mythology. Code name for Sun/Moon is Rainbow like the rainbow bridge. So Alola is like Midgard and the hyperspace hole is like the rainbow bridge connected to different "worlds" as that one Aether foundation person put it. UB-01 is like a mist creature from Nifelheim so we could get UB-02 as some ice giant looking thing, UB-03 as some fire giant looking thing, etc. Also In the Thor movie... The rainbow bridge can be used to access other realms

>>28371570
isn't zygrade based on norse mythology too?

>>28371603
Xerneas = Midgar deer
Yveltal = Asgard eagle
Zygarde = see >>28371542

>>28371603
Yes, but only in its 50% form, from what we have seen. Said form seems to draw inspiration from Jormundgandr, a snake that wraps around the world with its tail in its mouth in order to keep the world together.

>>28371701
>Sköll
>Hati
>Fenrir
>Hela

>"only in its 50% form"

As of right now, what is the true Legendary Pokemon family tree?

>>28371749
Sorry. Only posted the Yggdrasil mythos for it. Yveltal's at the top, Xerneas is at its base, and Zygarde is at its roots. But all the rest is till arguable.

>>28371773
There is no official one, unfortunately.

>>28371773
>Zygarde is literally God (while Arceus not regain its original power with plates)
>all others are his bitches

My "theory" is that all the legends about Arceus are a bunch of baloney, and that on top of the usual horseshit in the Pokedex, you on principle can't trust any entry that just cites regional legends, mythology, or what the people say. I still think Mew is the source of all Pokemon in some sense because all of the entries that point to that are stated as scientific theory rather than some shit from books.

All the godlike Pokemon are just super strong and old, they don't actually predate the universe. Dialga can control time, but I don't buy into the nonsense that time didn't start moving until it started breathing.

>>28371773
>Arceus
>Created Dialga, Palkia, & Giratina to shape reality
>Created Regigigas to shape the Earth
>Created Mew to bring life

That's about it really. Everything else is just a byproduct, or a mystery. We don't really know why the Original Dragon exists as powerful as it was. We don't really know how Rayquaza came to be, and why there seems to be just one, protecting the skies. Most people assume Arceus systematically created those Legends too, for various reasons, like needing a powerful Pokémon to protect the skies.

>>28371864
Hate to burst the bubble, but HG/SS basically confirms the Sinnoh Mythology as completely Canon.

>>28371864
so youre a pokemon atheist...?

>>28371864
Not bad a theory; dex entries of regular Pokemon often get exaggerated, but I think it's a bit more reasonable for the legendaries since they've got more power than any other regular 'mon.

But I still think that Arceus' hatching started the universe in a way, then after it was completely made and the chain of Darwinian evolution started, all the supernatural legendaries just backed off and became lenient.

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>>28371864
YOU GOD DAMN HERETIC!

>>28371388
Where is the rest of the image tho.

>>28371864
Ah! Finally, a gentlemen of superior intellect has joined our community!

*tips fedora*

It's about time I was accompanied by someone of enlightened intelligence. And I am sure you will be joining me in purchasing the patricians Pokémon Game; Moon Version, too?

>>28371942
>Cynthia cites some old documents, written by people, obviously
>the ruins are canonically just built by some fuckers just a couple centuries ago
>Arceus makes an egg

wow, godly

>>28372127
Did you miss the part when you get a trippy vision showing all the shit he created. aka, the entire planet?

Also, that "egg" was a Deity Pokémon, something that only another genuine God could ever create.

If the God Pokémon proves that he created life, and proves that he even created the other Deity Pokémon, then how can you possibly assume the rest of his creations aren't also true? He literally proves his power by showing you/doing it in front of you

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>>28372127
HG/SS dex description

"According to the legends of Sinnoh, this Pokémon emerged from an egg and shaped all there is in this world."

>>28372190
>According to the legends

Alright?

>>28371864
>>28372068
>>28372127

Okay, enough about Poke-atheism. This thread was created to make connections between the games' lore and real-life mythology and to share what we find, not to argue whether or not said lore is canon.

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>>28372209

Pokemon B/W2 dex description

"It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing then shaped the world."

>>28372210
I dunno. It's been a reasonably fun discussion so far, it fits the theme of the thread, and nobody has gone full retard yet

>>28372240
>It is said

By who?

>>28371942

It's made pretty clear that Rayquaza was created to shut Kyogre and Groudon the fuck down.

>>28372185
Yeah, that's all impressive, but he might just have a big ego. I don't doubt Arceus stands above the other three and is able to give birth to one of them, but almost every Pokemon proves how good it is at creating life while you bike back and forth down a road trying to get a good IV spread. I can believe that if a regular Pokemon can give birth to regular Pokemon, a strong legendary Pokemon can make other legendary Pokemon.

We now have a poke-atheist in the thread,

it really does come together

Life from nothing is far more impressive than life from Sperm + Egg

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>>28372309
Well.... Ok then

Gen 4 ruined legendaries. Half of them shouldn't exist.

>>28372345
But all those other eggs just appeared, we had no idea how they got there, your pokemon just suddenly had it!

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>>28372359
FUCK

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>>28372309
I respect your opinion however I disagree

>>28371482
Kind of reminds me of Aria of Sorrow, what with Dracula's Castle being sealed into an eclipse.

Speaking of which, I don't think we have an actual date for when the game takes place, do we?

>>28372385
and that is how you ruin a book asshole!

>>28372354
The only Legendaries that legitimately should not exist, and have no purpose, is the Genies. The rest are fine. Gen 4's Legends are fine

>>28372420
He looks like the kind of guy who buys physical books, but still has them all saved digitally on a tablet anyways

>>28372421
Heatran has no value at all.

>>28372421
I'm talking about the numbers of them. I dislike the genies too, although I like the therian formes. Really it's just my aesthetic opinions. Gen IV led to legendary inflation, I really don't think there need to be more than 5 or 6 legendaries/mythic pokemon per gen.

>>28371864
>not worshiping the Old Gods of Pokeworld
Fucking sacrilege

>>28372249
So long as a flame war doesn't start like the one about alternate dimensions two threads ago.

>>28372461
He's just a fat deer with an ornate corset.

>>28372447
Heatran, Cresselia, and Darkrai IMO serve no purpose.

Gen IV had an overly complicated plot. Like they were trying to outdo Gen III but not by having a better plot, just more of it.

>>28372492
I agree. I'm glad gen VI reeled it back a bit, but Volcanion is Heatran-tier, all he has going for him is a unique typing.

So is there a time line showing the different universes and their reasoning of being that way yet?

reposting from old thread: mr. bonding completely fucks the timeline because it forces gen 3 to happen before 6, but 6 happens after 5, which happens after 4/2, which happens after 1/3

the pokémon universe is in some sort of time loop

>>28372460
>>28372492
>>28372539
Gen 4 only had a lot of Legendaries because it was the Region thematically built around mythology. I can give it an excuse. Especially because the Legends were actually cool. I mean you get PokéGods, Darkrai, Manaphy (which I always loved that it was obtained in the Spin Off Ranger game)

But Gen 5 has literally no excuse. They shoved Legendaries down our throats for literally no reason other than the fact that they had a bigger-than-usual Dex, and the kids eat Legendaries up. They had a grand total of fucking FOUR Mythical Pokémon, and TWO Trios. The Genies didn't even bring new lore to the table because we already have Legendaries themed around thunderstorms and weather and shit, like Raikou.

Gen 6 did indeed, thankfully, acknowledge they had gone too far, which is why they re-used Mewtwo/Kanto birds, and S/M is re-using Zygarde/possibly other classic Legends, as opposed to adding too many more new ones.

>>28372492
Also Gen 4's plot was basically just Gen 3's plot, but with most of the retarded shit cut out, and replaced with more interesting and enjoyable story and battles, so yeah, they did achieve outdoing Gen 3 IMO

>>28372447
Heatran isn't Legendary. By Black 2/White 2, it was pretty much just shrugged off as a rare Pokémon that a formed in Volcanoes.

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>>28372565
no fucking way

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>>28372553
No, because the timeline is the same in every universe. It's just the Versions are different.

The "BIGGEST" difference in the timelines across the multiverse that they have ever shown, is that R/S/E exists in a universe with no Mega Evolution. That's it. Nothing even really noteworthy, and nothing that alters the established timeline of events.

>>28372589
Gen 3 has always canonically been at the start of the Timeline, and Gen 6 is at the end. This isn't new, this is something the creators have confirmed years ago.

Mr. Bonding's role in the games is not a mistake or coincidence, it's Game Freak re-establishing Hoenn's position in the timeline.

It's not the only thing in the game to do that too. You can also find the "You are not the one..." ghost girl, alive and well in Hoenn, suggesting she died at some point before X/Y.

>>28371864
Mew is the first Pokemon, Mew has DNA from all Pokemon, but really it's more accurate to say all Pokemon have some of Mew's DNA.
Mew is the Adam and Eve of Pokemon.

>>28372681
but aren't there references in ORAS to events in XY?

also, where do you find the ghost girl in Hoenn?

>>28372612
He's got a catchrate of 3, he's in the undiscovered egg group, he has his own room and appears as a sprite in the overworld, only being able to be caught once. He's sandwiched between Palkia and Regigigas in the Pokedex. In Black and White 2 as well, he appears once only when you have a certain item in a certain place. Only legendaries and mega evolutions have comparable or higher BST.

He's a legendary. Just a really worthless one.

>>28372681
Wasn't mega evolution just being discovered in X and Y? Doesn't make any sense if it was commonplace years and years beforehand in Hoenn.

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Guys....GUYS

FUCK I DISCOVERED A THING OH FUCK

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>>28372712
There are references to the Kalos War, which happened 3000 years in the past. Nothing else really.

Also here is a picture. She is found in the cemetery.

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>>28372749
WHAT THE FUCK

>>28372748
Mega Evolution was being first properly researched in X/Y, yes. But even in Kalos, it was an old discovery. Remember the huge Mega Lucario Tower?

Hoenn and Kalos have both known about Mega evolution for a very long time.

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>>28372749
uh anon you should add this too because I think you're on to something

>>28372791
Sycamore does say that there are only examples of Mega Evolution in Kalos, but I suppose that's a small enough detail to just ignore and say they weren't thinking about the overall plot at the time. I forgot about the Lucario statue and was under the impression that X and Y were largely about the discovery of mega evolution as a new thing.

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>>28372190

Kyogre created the sea.
Not Arceus.

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>>28372749
>>28372883

heres a version without the lines

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>>28372190

Groudon created the land.

Not Arceus.

>>28372903
That's just some 2deep4u fag trying to sound smart

>>28372896
Yeah, Game Freak does make mistakes and small retcons. There's also an NPC in X/Y that speculates MegaAerodactyl being it's "primal form", obviously something written before Game Freak came up with the idea of Primal Reversion.

But even regarding the Hoenn Mega's, the only people with common knowledge about it are the people who learned about the meteorite that crashed into Sootopolis. That's why you have to go talk to Wallace about it. The rest of the Region doesn't seem to know or even care.

>>28372961

Kyogre created the sea.

Arceus didn't create everything.

>>28372749
>>28372904
Ever since she was revealed, Lusamine's leggings with the white front, black back, and golden heels made me think of Arceus. Her outfit turning yellow around the waist, the diamond motif, and her green eyes also seem suspect. Arceus has red eyes, but his sclera are green.

>>28372984
>>28372956
>>28372903
Arceus creates those Pokémon to shape the Planet for him, obviously.

That's not even a secret, the Arceus Plates in Sinnoh say as much.

>>28372986
Arceus confirm for UB

>>28373009

No. Arceus didn't.

Arceus only created 6 Pokémon in total.

>>28372986
>>28372904
>>28372749

Guys, I have been thinking about it, and I am very confident now.

We're going to get a "Delta Episode" style Post-Game each game from now on, each one based on a previously unobtainable Mythical Pokémon.

Sun/Moon is going to be Arceus. I am becoming certain of it.

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>>28373021
Could Arceus have just been trying make the original pokemon team?

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>>28372790
>>28372883
>>28372904
>>28372986
>>28373031

GUYS OH FUCK I JUST DISCOVERED MORE

>>28372209
I mean, you literally go to Spear Pillar and enter the Distortion World

I'm sure that would make me believe the Sinnoh legends

>>28372749
>Aether is attempting to create their own Arceus
>Result is Type:Null
>Gladion, a former member of Aether (Maybe even Lusamine's brother or son) realizes this, steals Null and Hightails it
>Joins Team Skull as they are the only ones with the numbers to oppose Aether on the large-scale.
>Sure, Skull poaches Pokemon, but at least they're still alive when they do it, not mash them together into some horrid chimera
>Just the thought of it or how anyone could defend them makes Gladion nearly boil over with anger each time.
>Now he uses Null to bring Aether down with the full weight of their own sins.
>Gladion's Rockruff was used as the base of Type: Null also, why not?

>>28373076
YOU BETTER ADD THESE TOO >>28372883
>>28372904

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>>28373076
IT

>>28373076
>Arceus would have killed by a rock

what a godlike being

>>28373054

Arceus only created Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Uxie, Azelf and Mesprit.

Then went to sleep forever.

>>28373076
Que Marshadow.

>>28373120
And Regigigas. And Mew had be created too, so that the rest of the Pokémon can develop.

And I am not convinced that Pokémon like Kyogre/Groudon evolved naturally.

>>28373108
he does make some sense

These lore threads are the only good and interesting ones compared to the rest of VP,

welcome back lorefags

>>28373076
I think Arceus using the Ultra Beasts as harbingers would be something of a letdown, seeing that Arceus is, well, already revealed and whatnot.

>>28373170
Yeah, /vp/ is kind of shit, but these threads are good because, unlike most of the board, we're actually talking about the games.

I've tried to make lore threads now and then for the past 3 years.

Early OR/AS they took off for a bit, because people were interested in Sea Mauville, but it didn't last.

But thanks to Sun/Moon doubling down on the lore/connections in the franchise, it seems people are actually becoming more interested in the lore of the games and how it all fits together.

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>>28373093

SHEEEEEEIT

>>28373233

He's not using them, they're a byproduct.

>>28373233
its all leading up to DPPt remakes where Primal Arceus is introduced

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>>28373250

1000 one armed-Pokes

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>>28373153
purely speculation.

Arceus only created 6 Pokémon in total.

All Pokémon are descendants of Mew.

>>28373250
>>28373093
>>28373076
>>28373031

>Finish Sun/Moon
>Fun game, but you're a bit underwhelmed
>Aether didn't really go anywhere, the lore you looked forward to was glossed over.
>Credits end
>This >>28372904 symbol fades onto the screen and starts to glow.
>"Pokémon: The Eclipse Episode"
>You hear Arceus's cry
>yfw

>>28373330
Well this is factually incorrect because we know Arceus and his creations came before Mew.

I don't know how you somehow think kitty-fetus somehow evolved into Gods and shit.

>>28373330
Krabby is not a descendant of Mew, as Mew cannot learn Crabhammer.

>>28373268
I despise the idea of Primals, but Arceus would be my only exception, because I feel like Arceus needs a true God Form that is undeniably above every and all other Pokémon.

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>>28373153

What you said is purely speculation.

Arceus only created 6 Pokémon in total.

All Pokémon are descendants of Mew.

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>>28373336

>>28373357

That's a lie. All Pokémon are descendants of Mew.

Arceus was hatched from a egg.

>>28373373
krabby is just a regular crab pretending to be a pokemon

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>>28373336

>>28373108
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrPKq4lk1NQ

>>28373373

Lie. You are confuse.

>>28373260
Oh. Then I guess what their purpose is won't be seen until the games come out. Speaking of which, the official description stated that the UBs are a threat to both people and 'mons, but UB01 doesn't seem too threatening, at least from what we know. Maybe their rifts are tearing spacetime apart? And if so, could Giratina be linked?

SINNOH CONFIRMED!?

>>28373415
Giratina have no connections with them.

>>28373357
There is no concrete proof that Arceus is a god or that it predates the universe, Mew, or Pokemon collectively. All we know is that Arceus is very powerful, is capable of creating infantile versions of Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina, and is revered by the people of Sinnoh.

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What the fuck are ultra beasts and why do they want to fuck over pokemon and people alike

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>>28373415
>>28373336
>>28373295
>>28373233

At this point I would like to direct everyone to THIS SITE.

Especially pay attention to the last bit about MARS.

This shit was posted in 2009.

https://hail-arceus.blogspot.com/2009/07/wecome-to-first-church-of-arceus.html

>>28373431
Regardless, I refuse to believe Mew is the ancestor of all Pokémon. Not the Legendaries. It makes way more sense for Arceus to have created Mew, and then let nature take its course. Fits with all of the creationist mythology that inspired Arceus.

>>28373444
I think they're just ayy lmaos from another dimension that are going to get pissed off when Aether experiments on them. I don't think they're going to be any more in depth than that, but I could be wrong.

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>>28373357
>>28373395
>>28373414

>>28373471

Arceus is a Pokémon.

Mew is the ancestor of all Pokémon.

Mew is Arceus ancestor.

>>28373471
Mew being the ancestor of all Pokemon is also only speculated ingame. Neither has concrete evidence.

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What if UB-01 was an attempt of fusion between humans and pokemon, just like pic related,
but things went wrong?

>>28373520
Well that's a fair enough response. This is a thread for lore discussion and theories after all

>>28373519
Richard please stop

>>28373428
We don't know that yet. And it could include the entire spacetime trio, if it does get that way, but that's just my crack guess.

>>28373444
>COULD be a threat
There's potential, but we don't know if the UBs would want to act on it. Their alignment, as of now, is still in the dark.

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ALOHA

>>28373536

It's not.

It lives in the Distortion World.

>>28373535

Mew is the ancestor of all Pokémon species.

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>>28373519

>>28373170
Lore threads and comfy threads are the best because everyone is chill and there is agreement to the kind of behaviour that is expected. Definitely the best of vp right now

>>28373579
I agree. Comfy threads are companionable, lore threads make you think. It's a good time either way.

>>28373577

:(

The Dex entries are written by the ten year olds that own them. Do to this not much is known about pokemon. Kanto being more science driven, doesn't claim their Pokemon to be ultra super beast gods. The different environments the children lived in causes pokemon to be perceived differently.

>>28371107
>Has the Mythical Pokémon despite them not really needing to me
>But not all of them, just 4 for some reason
>missing the Regi's which would have fit well into this under Giratina
>"151" (for what fucking purpose?!)

Solid image ruined by nonsense.

>>28373522
I do think that sounds incredibly farfetched but something might make sense in SM considering Z-Moves are basically trainers getting in sync with their pokemon.

I hope that's not the case though because I hated digimon frontier

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>>28373444
>>28373471
>>28373536

I JUST FIGURED SOMETHING OUT,

UB-01 COULD BE BASED ON NORNS IN NORSE MYTHOLOGY

>>28373606
While (at the risk of another Richard response) I agree that the PokéDex is full of inaccuracies and shouldn't be taken as fact when the information is dubious, I will say that I don't believe at all that the Dex is written by the children themselves. For one thing, there's hundreds of duplicate entries across the games.

The Dex is never truly empty, the entries are written in advance by the Professors.

>>28373112
Can you Pokemon atheists just stop?

>>28373606
>The Dex entries are written by the ten year olds that own them.

Stop this meme. The games literally explain the pokédex automatically updates itself when you catch a pokémon. How does it do that is never exactly explained, true, but the fact that it updates itself is clearly stated.

>>28373670

Scanning

>>28373616
Hahaha, Oak's got Spicoli for a brother.

Because people have been mentioning retcons and that have gamefreak ever retconned a character for seemingly no reason like theu did with kris/crystal?

Have gf retconned any other characters for seemingly no reason like they did with kris/crystal? Just asking as people have been mentioning retcons in this thread.

>>28373770
Shit didn't realise it actually made the first post as it came up with a captchca error the first time

Marshadow = Shadow of Mars

Minor eclipse event causing a small shadow to appear on our planet's surface.

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>>28373640

>>28373822
Mate. Look at all Solgaleo and Lunaala's names. They both have spanish in them. I guarantee you that Marshadow has spanish in his name too.
It's Mar (spanish for sea) + Shadow.

People need to stop this mars and marsh meme.

>>28373770

Game freak didn't retconned her.
You idoit

>>28373634
So could the other ultra beasts be based on the norns?

>>28373770
Not that I know of. I don't know if Krys was exactly retconned either, as she was only in pokémon Crystal and not in Gold and Silver. I mean it's not that they took her out from those games -she technically never existed in them

>>28373836
>Spanish
Sol and Luna are Latin you faggot

>>28373831
Gen 1 also made reference to "America" which doesn't exist in the Pokémon world

Things change Richard, unlike your unending autism.

>>28373849
Yes they did.

>>28373770
The only other character that "Doesn't exist" that I am aware of is the female counterpart to Red in FR/LG.

>>28373868
Ala and Luna are both spanish, chump.

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>>28373616
The Black Samson flower, or coneflower is a type of Echinacea. In the language of flowers it stands for strength and immunity. The Biblical Samson having super strength and near invulnerability so long as his hair was not cut. Samson Oak also has long hair. It all comes together.

>>28373836
>They both have spanish in them

Or perhaps it is italian?

Solgaleo
Sol + Galileo (Italian)
Sole is Italian for sun
Sunne Pokemon

Lunala
Luna is also Italian for Moon

>>28373897

Shadow is real Spanish, lemme tell you.

Either way, a sea of shadow can be caused by an eclipse.

>>28373897
They literally couldn't be assed to give you a proper localization for Type: Null's name, pedro, why do you think they're pandering to you

>>28373836
>>28373868
>>28373897

It's both, Lorekeepers.

Spanish, Italian, Portuguese and French are Romance languajes, if you know any of them you can almost understand latin, it's like how chinese people can almost translate japanese.

What a beautifull Duwang

>>28373943
Shadow is real latin too amirite

>>28373943
The spanish word for wing is ala which is half of lunala's fucking name.

>>28373966
>>28374020

It all comes together, even in names.

>>28373995
>>28374020

And I'm proving the point that the entirety of their names are not in any fucking one language.

>>28373634
Not trying to discredit you, but do said Norns make any connection with the Alchemy stuff we've seen so far? Maybe the Norns and Alola's mythos are related somehow.

>>28374020
Ala is also Latin for wing.

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Well I reformulated the Arceus Sigil with the new legendaries and excluding some others (namely man-made like mewtwo and genesect, 'really rare and hard to find' like shaymin, latiae and heatran, and deoxys that came from a meteor)

I'm just speculating on the placement, but my reasoning is:
>Arceus in the middle, created all, created Dialga for time, Palkia for Space and Giratina for Antimatter (an opposite to reality must exist for reality to exist)
>Lake trio comes next and they pretty much represent The Soul\Identity
Okay so shit starts getting tricky here
>Xerneas Yvetal and Zigarde are paired up with the mew-like family, the mew-like family are common ancestors of all pokemon, they're branched out for types of pokemon (so all pokemon from the sea share common ancestry with Manaphy, all forest share ancestry with celebi, etc).
>The XYZ trio shares way of being with the mew-likes. Celebi and Manaphy are peaceful/benevolent like Xerneas, Hoopah and Victni are chaotic like Yvetal and Mew and Celebi are reclusive like Zygarde
>The RSE trio are also in this circle and fit in with the mew trio by junction of their elements.
>Water+Earth gives Mew(animal) when closer to earth and Celebi(plant) when closer to water
>Air gives a tinge of mystic when closer to it, and more purity to the other element when closer to that one.
>So, Earth+Air gives Victni(pure fire) when closer to earth and Hoopah(otherworldy) when closer to air. Same way as Air+Water gives manaphy(pure water) and Jirashi(heavenly)
>Lugia is associated with water so I put him on Kyogre's side, same way as Ho-Oh is with the sky and the regis with continents
>Also note that the regis (age of stone, ice, iron) are sided with Palkia for time
Tried to fit the rest, I started pushing for the rest
Lunaala represents the moon, and both Crescelia and Darkrai are facets of it
Solgaleo is supposed to have two facets to the sun too
The BW Trio I put for filler, but if they do fit, they'd be just the original dragon

>>28373550
>>28373108
>>28373409

well as eccentric and cringy it was it rose some good points and would make for some dope lore in the game. Is GF even capable of making a story this good though?

>>28374084

Don't forget the sigils of the Regis are O T H, completing AZOTH

>>28374084
>Celebi and Manaphy are peaceful/benevolent like Xerneas
meant Jirashi and Manaphy

>>28374084

No.

>>28374092
I think he was just going full ham and having fun with it.

>>28374133
dont be a shit

>28373836
No, man. I get What your saying completely, but the whole celestial body motif sounds a little more believable.
Think about it. The sea has very little of a relationship with the sun, but the moon can't be the only thing tying them together. That's dumb.
It's gonna be an eclipse pokemon that isn't actually from mars, but it was a cool edgy name so game freak was like "FUCK it" and it nullifies or goes against both the sun and moon.
Rayquaza breaks Kyogre and Groudons weather.
Giratina can travel outside of the time and space that Dialga and Palkia rule.
Kyurem absorbed the energy from Reshiram and Zekrom.
Zygarde was supposed to do more for XY but they scrapped it in favor of Sun and Moon.
I think "Mar Shadow" is just an edgy name for an eclipse pokemon.

>>28374133
fuck you

>>28374020
In Latin Solgaleo comes out to Lion with sun as ga has a variant usage equivalent to cum(with).

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>>28374084

No. Arceus hatched from a egg that fell from a Vortex.

Arceus create 6 Pokémon then go sleep forever.

>>28374133
Dammit fuck off Richard

>>28374160

No thanks.
Groudon created the land and Kyogre created the sea.

Arceus didn't create everything

>>28374163
Proof?

>>28374163
I know you're probably just trolling, but I kinda want you to die, like legit

>>28374156

I don't like fan fiction.

By the way. Pokémon are not animals.

Any chances Looker might appear in SM and it's revealed how he ended up in ORAS?
Maybe he originally wanted to leave Kalos to travel to Alola and somehow ended up in Hoenn, there is still that unused train station in Kalos.
This has been bugging me for some time now.

>>28374163
>Arceus create 6 Pokémon then go sleep forever.
Except, you know, that we see it awake and well in HG/SS, and it casually creates yet another Pokémon.

suck my dick, choke on it

>>28374181

1. I don't troll.

2. According to Sinnoh myth.

Arceus is currently sleeping.

3. Go away.

>>28374084
If you switch Yvetal's side with Xerna's side it will fit better with your way of being theory
>Rayquaza is directly in front of Zygarde and he's reclusive too by being high up in the stratosphere
>Kyogre could be directly in front of Xernas and he's chilling in the deep sea
>Groundon could be directly in front of Yvetal and he's in a volcano that could erupt any time

>>28374209

>Arceus is currently sleeping

At least by the time the book was written or so they thought.

>>28374198

Your homosexual.

Arceus only created
Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Uxie, Azelf and Mesprit.

>>28374213
would also match kyogre for blue azelf and groundon for red mesprit

>>28374020
Spain's south was under the Ilustrated Arabs/Muslims (you know, the ones that kept the roman 'back-up') one of the words that are still on the languaje is Alá.

It's the root of the word Allah, not the same.

This pagan moon god's name means 'Creator' and 'Mercifull' but digging into this led me to a quote of the Quran and believed to be a remanent of this early god. (Much like you can find old sun god remanents on the bible)

>Quran 41:37: "And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Prostrate not to the sun nor to the moon, but prostrate to He Who created them.".

>>28371942
Also, gigas made the other 3 Regis by himself.

>>28374224

The books is right about Arceus sleeping

>>28374271
Richard seriously fuck off

>>28374084
Swap Hoopa and Celebi.

>>28374084
don't forget the more central to the circle the more vital
>time/space/antimatter would not exist without arceus
>soul/identity would not exist without reality brought by the other three
>life and death would not exist without soul
>continents could not be shaped without landmass
has me beat with lugia and ohoh

Legends. Same way it's said God made the world in seven days. Same basis.

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>>28374197
Remember, OR/AS predates X/Y in the timeline.

More likely than not, he was pulled through a Hoopa portal, and lost his memory, which may mean that there are now two Lookers running around in the same timeline, one of them being slightly older!

Hmmm.... Two Lookers, one older with memory loss, in the same timeline... Where have I seen that before...

Okay, this flame war has gone on long enough. Forget about the origin of Arceus who it created. Let's focus on the Ultra Beasts.

First, we know that they are likely not humans or Pokemon. Second, we know that they possess great power and can be a threat. Third, despite their power, whom they side with and whether they are truly good or evil is still up in the air.

What, do you think, brought them to Alola?

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Eat up boys. Just added a new section.

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>>28374288

It is right about Arceus sleeping.

It is right about Arceus hatching from a egg that fell from a Vortex.

>>28372421
Heatran, Shaymin, and Cresselia are trash. Shaymin should not have been a legend.
I'm ok with darkrai, only because of the otherwise lack of a pure dark legendary. But Regigigas could have been better.
4 feels like they were showing off that they got this far and just said "HERE ALL THE LEGENDS"

>>28374335
See the theory I posted here >>28373634

>>28374421
So they control man's destiny? Okay, but why would UB01 reveal itself to the entire Aether foundation of said Norns work best in the dark and unnoticed?

>>28373084
Solid story. But then you're missing ultra beasts who are going to be major in this apperently.

A thought here.

Celebi is to Dialga what Hoopa is to Palkia, Shaymin is to Zigarde, Volcanion is to Groudon and Manaphy is to Kyogre.

>>28374508

It explains Type: Null. It doesn't need to explain the UBs.

>>28374531

No

GUYS GUYS GUYS GUYS

STOP

About Arceus: remember that Sinnoh is Hokkaido and take a look on this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kandakoro_Kamuy

>>28374531

Celebi = Dialga
Hoopa = Palkia
???? = Giratina

>>28374330
In XY he still leaves taking the train and there is that unused train station. Maybe he comes back going after Team Skull? And that train station could connect Alola with Kalos in some way or another? That'd be neat.
I hope he appears in the games, I always liked his character.

>>28374599
Alola is 4 islands.

Looker has been in every game for a decade now, he's actually probably a permanent mainstay, so he can certainly show up in S/M. But he wont get to Alola in a train.

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>>28374548

>>28374531
You're a fucking idiot.

>>28374682

Finally someone else noticed that.

>>28374682
Why?

About Phoebe:

>Ijun (いじゅん?) is a Shinto-derived religion founded by Takayasu Ryūsen (1934-) in Okinawa. This modern religion started in 1972 and in 1980 became registered under the Religious Corporations Law (Shūkyō Hōjinhō). In the same year the movement joined the Shinshūren (Federation of Japanese New Religions) and started its overseas activities.

>Ijun is based in traditional Okinawan animist and shamanistic beliefs related to noro (i.e. nuru, an Okinawan term for female diviners/priestesses) and yuta (an Okinawan term for shamans). This movement, emphasizes the worship of the deity Kinmanmon, an Okinawan god and cosmic deity and describes the mysterious life force of the universe as an "internal power" (uchina power) comparable to Japanese Universal Ki and teaches that people must awaken to this power.

>Ijun has most of its followers in Okinawa (Uchina), but it also has a temple in Yokohama and overseas temples in Taiwan and Hawaii.

>Hawaii

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ijun

Also, about Kinmamon: https://dijehtranslations.wordpress.com/2016/08/08/521/

>>28374672
Thank you, Captain Obvious. Now read about Kandakoro Kamuy.

>>28374640
Well, my initial thought was him travelling from Kalos to Unova and then to Alola going by ship.

>>28374770
Youre going to meet him getting odd a train when you reach the mainland in the afterstory.
There's no fucking way they're going to force 800 mons on four islands for you.
Post story is new land to explore.

>>28372309
>Giving birth is the same as creating a godlike being from nothing

>>28374531
Nope. Hoopa has a lot more domain over shit than Palkia. Palkia's "space" refers to the X/Y/Z (IT ALL COMES TOGETHER) axes.

>>28374857
Thanks for the explanation.
I'm curious about the other Anon calling me a fucking idiot, and even more at >>28374693
when is the first time I've posted that thought.

Has someone spammed here something similar before?

>>28374810
I'm hoping for a post game region as well, but there's no way you'll be able to catch every pokemon in Sun and Moon, that's why Pokebank exists.

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>>28374857

No Hoopa don't.

>>28374810
That was just my initial thought because he gives you the stone for the mega audinite, but apparently that doesn't work. Also, we haven't seen the entire map yet.
I am still waiting for that unused train station to come into play somehow. If it was just for decoration why would they put it there to begin with?

>>28374926
You do understand "dimensions" also works for the X/Y/Z axes as well, right? He literally is the domain of physical placement, which is insane, but Hoopa's an omnipresent motherfucker who can summon him on the fly.

>>28374922
Not him, but every Pokemon? Not likely. At least half of them, split into pieces a la X and Y? Pretty much guaranteed.

>>28374956
Not that Anon, but I'm irked by the massive power shown by Hoopa on its movie.

>>28374976
Were you surprised?

>>28371107
that image doesn't contain kyurem

triggered

>>28375026

What if Arceus in that timeline was the original Pokemon before ideals split him up?

>>28375004
...Yeah. It was all the power creep critics being proven right in less than an hour and half.

On the other hand seeing Dialga and Palkia getting their asses handed to them and Regigigas barely sliding back was cool as fuck.

>>28375026
Kyurem is only a shell that was left behind when the One Dragon split into Reshiram/Zekrom, so he isn't really relevant to such an image.

>>28375048
....... No?

>>28374084
I don't think you should take that symbol so seriously. Every pokémon besides the ones inside the triangle and the three trios inside the circles don't really fit.

If anything you should just add box legends to the remaining spots, since most mythicals and minor legendaries are completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

>>28375099

Do you know what Kyurem was as a whole?

>>28375113
Nothing. Kyurem literally exists because of Reshiram/Zekrom splitting.

It was nothing before that.

It was described in the game as a hollow shell.

>>28372565
I don't get it

>>28375146

You're not listening. The Tao trio were once one being before being split into the three. What was the one being?

>>28375162
No one knows?

>>28374330
That bottom image triggers me, fuck Rose. But then again, FUCK Clara.

>>28374599
Eh, I think Looker is being overused now. Stuff like Prof Burnat and other more obscure people sounds exciting

>>28375181

Exactly? I'm not saying it's definite, but Arceus has made X/Dragons before.

>>28375162
Oh right. We don't know, we've never seen the Original Dragon.

It crashed into Unova after falling from the sky, supposedly creating the desert between Nimbasa and Castelia. Kyurem fell apart to the north-eastern part of the region, causing that smaller crater.

We have no idea what the original dragon looked like originally, or where it came from, or how strong it is in relation to Pokémon like the Primals/Arceus

>>28375199
Clara was fucking insufferable.

>>28375235
Didn't it crash and create Giant Chasm? I thought that was the point of the area

>Clara
Yes she was. And stuck around way too long

Repostin

>NPC in ORAS mentions that Archie and Maxie were once on the same team
>Same location where you learn about Project AZOTH

Were Archie and Maxie part of the Aether Foundation and used the research on Infinity Energy to form the plans for Kyogre and Groudon

Could the discovery of the Ultra Beasts have been the catalyst for the formation of Team Aqua and Team Magma?

>Archie would have disgusted by humanity tapping into an eldtrich abomination and decided that humanity needed to return to our primordial state before we destroyed the world
>Maxie would have been inspried by the discovery and left to form Team Magma, who belived that humanity was the verge of a new age,and needed to expand to fulfill our true potential

>>28374976
Nothing compared to Rayquaza wank in that same movie.

>>28375475
OP here. Thanks for bringing this back. Missed this one big time.

>>28375475
The UB's are described as threats to pokemon and humans alike. I think teaming up would be a better option.

What if your goal in the game is to control the legendaries and gain control of the AZOTH?

>>28375506
Raywuaza has replaced Mewtwo as the star legendary

Sad since Ho-oh is the better sky guardian

>>28375630
It's never actually stated what exactly project AZOTH is in the games. Sure, we have the Alchemical definition, but that only goes so far.

>>28375650
Honestly it seems like ORAS being the newest game is the reason. But most godly feats from Pokemon besides the creation trio has Rayquaza to thank

>>28375775

We also don't know why meteors keep smashing into the planet. ORAS basically told us that the most recent meteor was actually sentient and was able to change direction. Inside it was some sort of triangle thing which was Deoxys' sealed form. Why did Deoxys want to smash into the planet?

>>28375806
It's actually stated after the Delta Episode that the scientists in the Mosdeep Space Center were going to investigate the reason Deoxys was attracted to Earth in the first place

What are Arceus' 1000 arms? Just a metaphor? Unown? Ultra Beasts?

>>28375855
Not him, but do they say anything more, or just leave it at thar?

>>28375907
Unown, since HGSS

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>>28375907
That's another mystery that's still argued since it was introduced. It's possible that the Unown are to Arceus in the same way Zygarde Cells are to Cores or its complete form. But then again, there's nothing to back that guess up.

>>28375907
>>28375943
Also, this guy >>28373250 guessed that Ultra Beasts were a by-product of the spacetime distortions caused by Arceus' awakening, hence the wormholes.

>>28373112
A Pokémon with all types at once would ONLY be weak to rock.

Meteors and other big ass rocks are basically Arceus' kryptonite.

Please no bully.

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>>28375936

Arceus was alone when it created the Universe with it's thousands arms.

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Hey, take a look at this. It seems that the markings on Type: Null's neckbrace seem to have a resemblance to Complete Zygarde's third eye, and by extension, the Zygarde Cube.

>>28376224
Every Zygarde has that "third eye" marking. It looks like a wooden Arceus Wheel with the gems replaced with Zygarde Cells.

>>28373250
>That vague as fuck, non-existing "resemblance" between Aether's logo and Arceus
>Taking the anime as canon
Anon please stop.

>>28373238
I've been interested in the lore since Ruby/Sapphire. But no one ever seem to share this interest with me other than with the most obvious shit like "OMG Zygarde must be important later!!1!"

>>28375806
Sky Pillar attracted Deoxys there and it wasn't going to "smash into Earth", the scientists just overestimated how strong it was. The universe that ORAS takes place in has you going to space to confront Deoxys but in RSE the meteor already landed and created Birth Island. Also if you beat Deoxys in space without catching it you can go back to Sky Pillar to battle it again.

>>28376515
Yes but WHY was Deoxys attracted to Sky Pillar in the first place? It has never been there before, so there must be something about Sky Pillar that can be sensed by off-planet beings.

This is actually one of the reasons why I hate ORAS. When the Delta Episode ends, the scientists say they're going to investigate it and they want you to do research on Deoxys if you catch it, but nothing ever fucking happens. You can't do anything, and they never do anything. The story just ends open with so many questions left unanswered.

>>28373519
All three assertions are correct. Once the universe comes to an end, it all will become an egg from where Arceus will be born again.

>>28373009
>>28372749
>>28372883
>>28373031
>>28373076
>>28373336
>>28373250
WHAT IF Arceus is revealed to have been an Ultra Beast all along?

I know that there is all of this portal and arceus collar stuff, but we've also been theorizing that Colress is part of Aether. Now, we have an chimeric abomination that has just been introduced and was presumably made by Aether, and we also know that Colress studied how to fuse Pokemon during his stint with plasma and kyurem. Who I may note also has the yellow crystal on its forehead. I'm not sure how much of the fusing tech Colress actually developed or how much was just using the old dna splicers, but he definitely would have studied Pokemon fusion to make Pokemon stronger whilst studying kyurem and the splicers.

>>28376711
Rayquaza and Deoxys are always portrayed as rivals and Sky Pillar is where Rayquaza lives so that's probably why. Maybe Rayquaza gives off some kind of energy?

>>28373519
Arceus was the first Pokémon to ever come into existence. Mew is therefore not its ancestor. However, if Mew was directly created by Arceus, it could have used its own DNA as sample and thus the whole "Mew has all Pokémon's DNA" statement would still be correct, as well as Arceus being the first ever Pokémon.

>>28376812
Arceus is God, and Mew is his son who was shaped in his own image. Literally.

>>28375162
>What was the one being?
You can splice Kyurem back together with Zekrom and Reshiram but only one at a time. Imagine them both being combined with some some of Kyurem's details.

>>28376799
No two people are born rivals. That's something you BECOME. Rayquaza and Deoxys only became rivals after Deoxys threatened the planet with its meteor. Like, in every single instance in every media where they're rivals. But we never know WHY Deoxys wanted to go to Earth. Or WHY it wants to go to Sky Pillar specifically.

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>>28371107
Damn a good thread was ruined by atheist getting triggered by the mere mention of God, what a surprise. No wonder people hate these guys, not only are they annoying whiny babies but they try to push their own stupid beliefs at any chance they get. Reasonable and Intellectuals my ass.

>>28376840
Maybe it was called their by something. Maybe U1 and deoxys are related?

>>28376833
The Original Dragon (whom Team Plasma is named after), split into Reshiram and Zekrom (Fire and Electricity), and Kyurem was a bi-product. Where the others represents energy, Kyurem represents the lack thereof. No energy, no life, no nothing. It just exists. The Original Dragon would therefore to have any of Kyurem's details, as Kyurem was never supposed to exist and is not part of the Original Dragon's halves (Plasma to Fire/Electric).

>>28376852
Talk for yourself, asshole. I'm an atheist but I don't force it onto religious people or anyone else. /vp/ has always consisted of whiny babies, that some of them just so happens to also be atheists shouldn't make your view of ALL atheists tainted. Besides, it's not like the religious people are any better. We are all shit.

>>28376840
Well like I said perhaps Deoxys is attracted to Sky Pillar because Rayquaza gives off some strange latent energy or something. Deoxys is just misinterpreted, people think it's out to destroy the planet but really it's just curious.

>>28376867
I doubt it. But there's definitely more to Sky Pillar than we know. My first assumption was that Deoxys sensed the Giant Mega/Key Stone Meteor that rested atop of the tower (the one Rayquaza used to stop Primal Groudon and Kyogre), but when you go there, it's gone. So I dunno. Maybe Deoxys didn't realize it had been moved.

>>28376873
Combining positive and negative results in neutral. Could the original dragon be dragon/normal.? is Drampa the original dragon?

>>28376873
>The Original Dragon would therefore NOT have any of Kyurem's details
Fixed That For Myself

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>>28376873
I don't think a shell changes its appearance too much when something like a tortoise inhabits it. Kyurem just needs to be filled in again.

>>28376812

Mew is the ancestor of all Pokémon species.

Mew is Arceus ancestor.

>>28376933
Only you would combine two positives and one negative. So the outcome would still be positive.

>>28376933
Either Dragon or Dragon/Normal, but in any case it should have an ability that gives it STAB for Fire and Electric (and maybe also Ice) moves.

>>28376971
Fuck off Mewtist.

>>28376971
Go to sleep already Richard.

>>28376963
Imagine you have Yin and Yang. They can represent anything you want, just imagine that you have them. Ok? Now split them apart. What's left? Nothing. Just empty space. This is what Kyurem represents. Why? Because it's symbolic in Tao religion. But back to the point. Now imagine you put Yin and Yang back together. What does it look like? Can you still see the "third" part? No, it just looks like nothing had ever happened, like the empty space had never existed. Like Kyurem, who represents this empty space, had never existed. The Original Dragon should therefore, because of the symbolism its concept is based on, not show any signs of ever having been Kyurem nor an Ice type. Because that "part" of it can only exist when itself doesn't exist.

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>>28376828

Arceus is just the Physical form of the Original spirit.

Who's Richard? I just got out of work. What is this meme? Gotta read the whollle thread to keep up though

>>28376891
Sure we are all shit but the vast majority of atheist are egocentric assholes. Thinking they know everything, thinking they are perfect with no flaws but when you question or fine flaws in the way they think they ignore it or flat out tell you your wrong even if they are wrong themselves. Its better to be agnostic at less that choice makes more sense, you admit you don't know everything and you don't get the bad reputation atheist have.

Maybe you are alright I'm sure not all atheist are like this but all he ones I've meet and the vast majority on the internet and TV were all idiotic assholes.

>>28377030
I hope you get banned for spamming, richard.

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>>28377016
>fill in
muh pokedex entry
You're probably right though.

>>28377033
Richard is a really old meme. It's when people spam with Pokédex entries and NPC dialogue and uses that as "arguments" against people who are actually trying to take the debate seriously. Like this discussion about Mew and Arceus. Richard is the idiot who denies everything everyone says simply because the Pokédex once stated Mew was "believed" to be the ancestor of all Pokémon.

>>28371107
>Lore General
Why has it taken so long for this to be a thing?

>>28371500
It's obvious where they are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRYYrG6zeO4

>>28377035
I've never "met" any atheist who were actually like that. Only people on 4chan and other shit sites like that. The only people I've ever met who tried to force their view onto me where christians, and christians only. Though, I know not all christians are like that, so I don't hate on them publicly because I know it's unfair to the ones who aren't like that.

Yes I know "hurr you respect people get off 4chan", whatever.

>>28377069
"Fill in" still works with what I said. You're just filling in Yin and Yang in the same space that they once occupied together before splitting.

>>28377086
>It's when people spam
>>people
It's literally one person, every time.

You can easily tell him apart from people pretending to be him.

>>28377129
People pretending to be him are still annoying and still receive the "Fuck off Richard" treatment. Hence the "people".

Just noticed most of pokemon lore comfirms pokemon are just energy, that explains how they get into pokeball, how arceus created the universe (At the begginning big bang was made by energy, arceus being before the universe it's a metaphore related to big bang), how they evolve over being stronger instead over time, they are just condensed energy that took form and mind

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>>28377041

Why?

>>28377176
samefag here, also when they "die" they turn into a stone because they run out of energy? I know ash turned as a stone when he died in the mewtwo movie but pikachu did aswell in the yvental one; same goes with Super Mystery Dungeon and the legends, could be a methaphore for death

>>28372565
that doesn't even make sense
Zygarde isn't tied to any of these.

>>28376840
In the Deoxys movie Rayquaza and Deoxys are enemies throughout and the meteorite
that Deoxys is born from is being studied upon. Maybe the movie could give hints as to Deoxys origins. There were 2 confirmed Deoxys in the movie.

>>28375235
Was there a time given for when the Original Dragon crashed? What if it got nuked by AZ firing off the Ultimate Weapon which caused it to fall from the sky and gave it the ability to split into 3. How much lore is there about the DNA splitter? What if that DNA splitter going by the name is loosely inovolved with Lillie and UB1, what if we have a Mewtwo situation in our hands where Aether was trying to create a human/pokemon hybrid and UB1 was that result?

>>28377176
>>28377212
Or maybe Pokeball technology is simply able to transform matter into energy.

>>28377311
The anime isn't canon. And we already know Deoxys' origin; it was an ordinary virus, then it got beamed by the Ultimate Weapon and became a Pokémon.

And don't listen to that other Anon you replied to, he's talking non-canon fanfic shit.

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GUYS

>>28377530
PLEASE

>>28377530

Vortex?

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>>28377691
>>28377669

>>28377743
If they're bringing back the Professor from Dream Radar they might as well make Ranger main-line canon too.

>>28371107
>The mosaic says "151" as if it's something special
>Only has a single Gen 1 Pokémon in it
Absolutely disgusting in both ways.

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I just found out that cyrus is persian for sun.

IT
ALL
COMES
TOGETHER

>>28375806
One winged angel.mp3

>>28378381
And Cynthia is [something] for moon.

No seriously, it is. I just can't remember the language.

>>28378641
greek.
cynthia is greek for moon.
GUYS

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This is the symbol for the Pokemon League in the anime, does anything here look familiar?

>>28378692
Not really, it's just a bunch of 4-pointed stars. I mean, you COULD say it resembles Lunala, but that would be grasping at straws. Same with anything else one might come up with.

>>28378771
I was thinking the star shaped bits looked similar to Arceus ring.

>>28378893
If you remove half of them, yes.

quick, someone make a new thread.

>>28376515
>>28376711
>>28376799
Guys, I don't think it's really canon about Deoxys going to spear pillar. As far as the story is concerned, Deoxys is stopped when you defeat it in space before it can crash into the Earth.

It showing up at spear pillar was just a safety net for the kids who inevitably 1-shot it with MegaRay.

(I could be wrong though. Giratina showing up a second time in Platinum's Turnback Cave feels like it is more canon than Giratina being captured in the Distortion World, but neither has concrete proof)

>>28378381
>>28378679
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

NEW THREAD:
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>>28379204
>>28379204