/pmdg/ - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon

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>>27774980
Guess I'll try to get all 720 mons and cap my stats, then. Should be much easier than recruiting everyone in Sky.
Might also try to modify connected Pokemon to see how the game responds to that.

>>27775157
How do you modify connected Pokemon?

>>27775006
This game feels so unfair sometimes.

>>27775885
I haven't actually tested it yet, but I just assumed I could use the AR3DS codes that change the first and second Pokemon, and use that with a team that doesn't lead with the player/partner.

If that doesn't work, I'll just check the RAM out using NTR and try to change them from there.

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>>27775006
>best starter deserved some love not this

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>>27776097
>tfw i see this and chespin was my partner and fennekin was my player

>>27775006
I am captivated by this gif.

>>27776118
Same but opposite way around

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>mfw wooper's walking animation in Rescue is happily skipping around
it doesn't even have arms
is this thing the personification of joy

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>>27777202
Yes.

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>golduck used disable
>golduck used screech
>>27777779
>this close to the claim
rip anon

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>northwind field
>politoed used perish song
>hits on first try

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Time to cheese everything

You guys are lucky. You just played Super and moved on. I can't even feel emotions anymore unless I'm thinking about it. I only care about playing the sequel, nothing else matters in life.

>>27777986
Well, after taking forever to reclaim Friend Bow, Suicune is recruited.

This is a good end to an otherwise bad run (started with 6 Revivers, found 2, used 3).

>>27777986
>>27780132
You could have just asked for help.

>>27780449
Sorry, muscle memory. Used to having nobody to save my ass.

>>27781410
That's just it finding a Rollcall Orb

>>27780132
>6 attempts
>still no raikou
this is one of these legendaries

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>>27782996
Are you shocked at this turn of events?

>>27779665
Is there any strat to this? I have to do them in batches of ~8 because of how often these throws fail.

>>27783415
Unless there's some pokemon that can up its throwing accuracy, no.

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ABOUT FUCKING TIME.

This took over 2 hours and I am talking 2 of running around in dungeon

>>27784082
Damn. How many tries did it take you?
I remember having to beat the 99 floors of Lugia's dungeon 10 or so times until the fucker decided to join me.

>>27784281
>99.9% recruit rate

You had 3+ pokemon, or a size of over 2 stars combined on your team

At what chapter would you say the tutorial ended in SMD?

>>27784391
2

>>27784346
It was a lot of years ago the only thing I remember is my first pokemon was a lv 100 Swampert with the friend bow. I don't know if I brought more.

>>27784281
About 8 tries, but one of them doesn't count as I cucked myself into Sticky Trap and was basically trying to roll a 7.6% chance. For reference, Suicune took 3.

You know Lugia is one of the legends with 99.9% recruit rate, right? I had more problems with Kyogre; about 4 tries before I finally fucked outplayed the coinflip.

>>27784082
I seriously don't get why 100% recruitment for all legendary bosses on the first try besides Rayquaza isn't a thing in RT. Seems like a dumb way to pad out gameplay time.

>>27784428
kek
When I asked about the game people responded with "1/3 of the game is tutorials" so chapter 2 wasn't the response I expected

>>27784498
The first dungeon is the tutorial. Everything else is game.

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A bit strange how Quagsire's an early recruit, but Wooper's only obtainable after completing the epilogue.
Also found it kind of cute that this game's Igglybuff is also friends with Wooper and Budew, just like the one from Sky.

>>27785092
Quagsire's feared by bad guys and wants to teach you things. Wooper's just sleeper OP

Hey.
https://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?49543-Pokemon-Mystery-Dungeon-Explorers-of-Sky-More-Playable-PKMN

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The Salamence makes a return.

i can't even

>>27785369
Why would I do this over editing the saves?

>>27785462
It's about portraits, not starters themselves.

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>>27785462
>Electrike, Poochyena

>>27785556
I got my Wooper and Mareep portraits, I'm set already.

>>27785369
>background is the same for all of them
I can't approve of this
It's a neat idea though

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>>27775006
Totopin is the CUTEST!

>>27785569
Would've been nice to get Puff, but Electrike's good enough.


For Super, since donuts are random and don't work as well as the vitamins, should I just keep searching for Sitrus berries in dungeons instead?

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Will Drifloon ever get acknowledged?

>>27786414
Never.

is there a pokemon that could possibly EVEN TOUCH drifblim let alone defeat him?

>>27786874
Forewarn Powder Snow Smoochum.

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>look at my counter
>27/386 or so
>tfw i've realized i've been counting unown as one pokemon
Truly, this is a Road to Insanity.

>>27786943
>minimize

>>27786943
Depends on who goes first and both Drifblim and the enemy's positioning on the map, their stats, both mons' moves, along with whether both have access to Treasure Bag items or not.
Through natural levelup moves, Drifblim probably has an advantage against most non-Normal/Dark mons due to Ominous Wind hitting from afar, and if they're positioned properly, can get a few Minimize boosts in before the other Pokemon even approaches it.

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>>27785728
I'll grant you it's cute, but it's not even top 5.

>>27787822
Chespin is the cutest starter. Totodile is a plebian.

>>27787908
>cutest
>Eevee
>Chikorita
>Torchic
>Piplup
>Shinx
>Riolu
>Tepig
>Oshawott

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>>27787947
You can think whatever you want but i'll heavily disagree.

I'm currently playing through the PMD games in order, I absolutely loved the first one (did everything except purity forest, I figured finishing wish cave was enough stress, finished the post game story, etc).
Two questions, anons.
>When should I do the special episodes in Explorers of Sky?
Just unlocked the very first one, not sure when I should do it. Now? Later once I have lots of items to make it easier? After finishing the main game? After finishing the post game?
>Why is Gates to Infinity considered bad, and should I play it or skip to PSMD?
I've heard this a lot and I'm curious, especially if I end up playing through gates and it sucks. For the record, I love the story of the first PMD as well as its gameplay, so if its gameplay sucks but story is good I might still give it a go.

>>27787908
Water types and Skitty have the best houses in PMD1 though
>he doesn't bench his starters

>>27787988
You can do special episodes any time. They're still pretty easy to complete without having to take out items from the storage. Try to rank up a bit before you play them since your storage space might be too small to contain items you collect from special episodes.
Gameplay-wise, Gates is a bit more shallow than the rest in the series. Most people say it has the best story, or at least a good one. Personally thought the partner was a bit shittier, but the other supporting characters are good enough to make up for that.

>>27787988
>Just unlocked the very first one, not sure when I should do it. Now? Later once I have lots of items to make it easier? After finishing the main game? After finishing the post game?
Whenever you want.

>Why is Gates to Infinity considered bad, and should I play it or skip to PSMD?
It lacks most of the features from the other games, it only starts being kind of decent once the story is over. If you plan on doing pointless story dungeons and to pay attention to small details, you may kind of enjoy it. Some think its story is the best. There are reasons to play it, so if you like the series then you probably should. Playing it before Super might be better for you, but do whatever you want.

>so if its gameplay sucks but story is good I might still give it a go.
That's exactly the case. There's still some unique gameplay stuff unique to GtI that you might enjoy though.

>>27788072
Super's the only time I don't bench the protag.

>5 tries at entei, still doesn't want to join the cute bunny holding friend bow
i've just hit lv. 51. i am rolling for a 1 in 5 shot right now. If this continues like that, I will have to stop and continue tomorrow, cause I am running out of time.

At least Ho-Oh's not going to be a pain in the ass.

>>27787947
Nice of you to collect all the low-mid tier cuteness into one list.

>>27788072
I'd enjoy to read your opinions when you play them

>>27788109
>>27788072
Thanks a bunch. Guess I'll suffer through Gates. Really looking forward to playing PSMD but I'm gonna go through Sky and Gates first. Looking forward to all of these, actually, I've heard a lot of good things about sky and fucking hell I LOVED blue/red.

>>27787988
Special episodes you can pick up anytime, but personally I put them off until after finishing the story and postgame (by postgame I mean post-credits story, not the post-postgame). None of them are significantly harder than anything the story throws at you (though of course the fifth one is more of a gauntlet than the first one), but as long as you have storage space, then you're good to go.

As for Gates, it's got a lot of good content and interesting concepts, ones that are arguably a lot more interesting than what Super did... but it comes at the cost of essentially gutting the core gameplay of most of its depth and features. IQ is replaced by team-spanning unlockable skills, hunger is no longer a thing, inventory management is less relevant, so on and so forth. It gets better in the post-postgame, when you get to the challenge dungeons, but not by much. It's tedious to play through. Super is kind of the same yet opposite, because it only gets good after the post-postgame because it stops jumping down your throat at every opportunity and really opens up to let you take missions at your own discretion.

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>>27788142
Well, there he is.
That leaves Ho-Oh, who's a guaranteed thing.

I was thinking of tackling Western Cave and Mewtwo tomorrow, but fuck them. Legendary beasts have drained me of my energy.

I'll probably put up the video tomorrow or something, and take a fucking well-deserved break.

>>27788608
>Western Cave and Mewtwo
These were really easy for me. Went in as a level 50 Rayquaza and only charizards and mewtwo himself could do any more than 1 damage, except for like, explosions.

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>>27788767
The problem is not difficulty, but length.

I am way too fucking tired to do a 99F twice.

Also, this happened. This is probably enough to cause a PTSD to anyone who was running Purity Forest.

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>>27788995

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>>27788995
>>27789034
And I am done.

Ten minutes until the midnight strikes here.

All I want right now is to get rest.

>>27789107
where do you live?

>>27789138
Europe, the "AAAAA KURWA" country known probably best for Witcher.
and now i really need to sleep. been doing this for way too many hours.

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Oh, so the game actually gives you a list. Nice.
I didn't even know I could upgrade the Detour Guide, so it's the first time I do this.

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>best starter edition
noice

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>mfw I picked Chespin as the protagonist on my first playthrough
>mfw I picked Fennekin as my partner too

I couldn't have picked a better combo if I tried

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>>27790002
>tfw your favorite pokemon always get love from pmd

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>>27790158
The postgame bossfight experience is always the partner dying in a few hits while Chespin solos the fight though

>>27777202
>is this thing the personification of joy
yes.
It literally is.

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>Get Super Mystery Dungeon
>Pick Torchic as starter like always have
>Picking partner...
>Decide that Riolu will be best because Fighting > Rock weakness that'll most certainly be fucking my ass the whole game if it's anything like Sky and I can ditch him by the time I evolve into Blazitking
>Name him 'Furbait' because I fucking hate Lucario line for being shitty furrybait
>Prepare myself to not like the annoying forced along partner
>Turns out Furbait really is an annoying asshole no one likes, perfect!
>But he tries so hard
>and he's so genuine
>and they so mean
>Furbait had a hard life
>Feel sorry for Furbait and end up broing out with him all game longeven though holy shit that type advantage turned out to be bullshit Riolu was fucking useless
>mfw SMD turned my own prejudices against me

>>27790275
riolu has a garbage movepool until you can evolve him
I think his good moves consist entirely of counter and reversal

>>27790275
You can rename your partner, you know.

>>27790301
>evolving your starters

>>27790275
Riolu isn't Lucario though. Riolu is one of the cutest Pokémon.

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>>27790320
I evolved my squirtle partner because wartortle is cuter and cooler than squirtle
there was no need for me to evolve chespin but riolu doesn't have the benefit of having a good movepool until after it evolves

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>>27790275
He deserved a better partner, anon.

played red/blue rescue team twice a few years back, got every legendary and had a great time. currently emulating explorers of sky on my iphone, and i was wondering if theres anything i should know in advance? any missable legendaries or cool stuff? my personality test rolled a chimchar and i picked riolu as my partner, if that matters.

>>27790394
There's nothing that's permanently missable

>>27790394
>on my iphone
lol

>any missable legendaries or cool stuff?
bring mystery part/secret slab with you

>>27790414
cool, just wanted to make sure

>>27790446
whats so bad about emulating? the game is running smoothly with no issues. also when do i get those items?

>>27790587
it's not about emulating, it's about playing videogames on a phone

>also when do i get those items?
once the postgame story is over

>>27790587
>emulating on a phone

I just don't get how people can stand this. You have no buttons to speak of, your hands smudge the screen, and you have no buttons

>>27790002
How does>>27790002 make you feel
>Tfw I did the same

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>>27790828

>>27787988
Here.
Just finished Bidoof's Wish. Last boss pretty rough, but not terrible. Guess it has a very low chance to use attacking moves, which each not quite kill you.
That was much better written than I expected.
Damn.

Will the writers actually give him a permanent lover or will they pull a Brock, And if they do who would it be?
Sylveon?
Or a new/different unexpected Mon? Whatdaya fags think will happen?
What do u fags ship him with?

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>>27791127
I'm talking about chespin
>Forgot pic

>>27791127
>And if they do who would it be?
volcanion

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>>27790320
>not picking your starters based on their mid/final form
The postgame's when all the good stuff happens anyway

>>27784391
>>27784498
The credits

>>27791652
>evolving
The only decent final forms are Empoleon, Lucario, Meganium, Luxray and the eevolutions. Why would you limit your choice so much?

>>27791652
Wat

>>27791953
Should've specified that I was talking about the postgame being good gameplay-wise and in terms of length, if you're looking for plot then it's way worse. There's Level 1 dungeons, and in RT you have all those anti-savescum 99F dungeons, GtI, while not particularly challenging at least brings back the core gameplay mechanics it removed in the maingame, and Super has the connection orb system. Even though there's almost no plot in the postgame, I found it a lot more enjoyable from a gameplay experience.

>>27791814
>Ninetales
>bad

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>>27791652
>Ninetales
good taste
too bad her portraits aren't easily edited/suck outside of Super

>>27792183
Shit the "wat" was ment for >>27791216
But yeah you're right about that bullshit nonexistent post gam

I found a list of the Pokémon ids for Super
http://psmd.skyeditor.org/Pokemon

>>27792513
>two Murkrows
I know in some parts of the plot she's not flying, so is the second one supposed to be that?

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Beep beep Ears 2 started happening
Now I just need to not have head-splitting headaches and incapacitating eye strain every day

http://archiveofourown.org/works/7771954

>>27794113
um

>>27794113
The Chief looks different, but I can't figure out why.
Did he get a new hairstyle?

>>27794113
What's your brilliant plan this time Anon?
>>27794485
Which one's the chef again?

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>>27794113
I
Wait

>>27794534
He's the one in the front telling everyone what to do.

>>27794607
my guess its that it's a new shirt
or he shaved his beard?
one teacher shaved his beard and NO ONE knew who he was, it was amazing

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>>27794113

>>27794113
You're going to speak to every one of them during the mission and post results?
I really don't know what every pokemon says, that funny banter is amazing

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>>27794113 was slightly edited, in the original pic Wooper used his neutral expression and still had Ampharos's name instead, which made me realize that each Pokemon has their name tied somewhere, and it doesn't simply use their species name. Wonder why naming everyone that wasn't the player/partner was removed if they still work like that.

>>27794795
In-dungeon quotes are tied to the characters themselves, not what species the mon is. I'd have to connect with everyone before compiling that, which would take some time.

>>27794945
wait... that's what you did? what? huh...
who and why?
Ok, we know the who, but why? the reasons behind your choices, because I'm a little confused on the Zorua and Aurill

>>27795060
Couldn't think of anything else, really. Slight bias with Azurill since he was the only guy I liked that didn't take many breaks during my run, and a few posts before had an anon going through Rescue Team with an Azurill, so that just came to mind. Zorua was because of that guy running Gates with him made me realize custom starters were a thing for the 3DS games.

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>>27775006
What the fuck, I can't get over this gif. I've been laughing for like a minute straight.

Then I imagined applying this gif to your Mystery Dungeon partner

I'M IN TEARS

>>27794113
This is great.

>>27775006
>PSMD
>use a TM on starter in overworld, save before entering a high-difficulty dungeon
>realize I replaced the wrong move
>replaced move is an egg move
>this is immediately after Showdown Mountain
J U S T

>>27794113
Explain. Has the .cia been modded now? Please tell me it has, I want to have an Eevee partner to fully relive that Explorers feel.

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lmao

>>27797853
Not exactly modding the .cia, but you can change your starters. If you have CFW installed, you can use NTR's RAM viewer to change mons, including your starters, or use AR3DS codes to do the same.

Modding starters is a bit weirder than Explorers. Their base movesets and stats will be the same as the starter they replaced (in my case, Totodile/Treecko), and they'll start off with the same ability as those starters. For the partner, in cutscenes she looked like the original starter (Treecko) but inside of the Drilbur Mine dungeon she was Jigglypuff. After beating Gabite, both the abilities and the partner's cutscene model were fixed, becoming Run Away/Cute Charm, and Jigglypuff showed up as herself in the cutscenes from that point onwards instead of as a Treecko. Not sure what would happen if you modded them after beating Gabite.

Best Rescue Team starter was Charmander. Best partner was Mudkip. Prove me wrong, losers.

Protip: you already know.

>>27798405
Best starter is Treecko, but you're right on the partner.

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>>27798405
>>27799092
It's like we didn't even play the same game.

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>>27785369
>lack of editing the BGs to match the emotions and tell them apart
>drawn in Paint
>not properly indexed so they show up in-game
>expects people will want more of this effort

new thread when

>>27800048
When it hits the bump limit or gets archived, which ever comes first

>>27799486
Someone needs to make a template of emotions BGs.
>>27800048
>not even halfway to sage limit

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>>27791652
In my eyes, nearly every pokemon looks worse fully evolved. Pic related is the exception.

>>27794113
>wooper
>drifblim
>kecleon

What have you done?

>>27798405
>charmander's ugly ass
>being the best at anything

>>27799092
>>27799203

>be u
>be sky tower
>you and your mate, shit bout to go down
>can't advance the level because you can't fly

Topkek, at least Genji could walk on Lava. Letting yourself get assigned a grass mon cucks you envrionmentally in the worst way possible.

>>27800452

See >>27800470

You can walk on lava and fly. Most mobile starter in the game.

>>27800489
>implying i didn't ditch the starter nearly instantly

>>27800501
fuck the starters
so useless

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>>27787947
My nigga

>>27797881
Can anyone tell me what the FUCK is going on here?

>>27800839
I have no clue 2bh

>>27800839
vore

>>27800950
Actually that's in this thread for whatever reason
>>27792222

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>>27800975
weirdos

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>>27798405
>he has a fire type team base
If this is about optimization, the game's easy with anyone and Skitty's the best of the bunch.

>every Gummi is bought from Kekleon 200 a pop except Silver (1000) and Pink (1500)
what did they mean by this

so i'm going to have couple hours of downtime on campus spread across the day during the fall semester and i've been eyeballing super mystery dungeon as some good filler

how much fluff does the game have? it seems terribly cute and it looks like a lot of you are invested in the story (this is awesome and i want it). if i only have like 20-30 minutes to play at a time, will i end up frustrated with it/not enjoying it as much?

>>27801757
There's quicksave functions, allowing you to save mid-dungeon

Short play sessions shouldn't be an issue

>>27801542
What's so favorable about skitty? I know with charmander you can get Charizard with heat wave at level 1.

>>27801932
Normalize is op

>>27801962
>normalize
>fire team base
Choose one. Attract and Cute Charm are broken as fuck in Rescue Team, though.

>>27801989
Not the same guy.
Skitty also has Cute Charm, and since infatuation works on everyone in RT, that makes her even more powerful.

>>27801921
>There's quicksave functions, allowing you to save mid-dungeon
Not in Super.

>>27794945
So you can just edit them like you do with the partner and the main character? I was wondering if they would stay like that in the cutscenes in GtI the other day, but I didn't test it. I didn't actually expect it to work.

>>27795060
>someone doesn't want me in the team
;_;

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Another nice idea GtI had. It's dumb that you can't check what they do after the first time though.

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An apple.

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Getting your ability changed by an enemy doesn't actually fix it.

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;_;

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>>27803629
Pretty strange how Gates doesn't auto-fix abilities like in the other games.

The custom Expedition Society members got their abilities fixed after a while, just like with Poochyena/Jigglypuff. Using a Lucha Token can also fix their abilities quicker. Their names are still mixed up, however.

>>27803585
What is this?

>>27804072
They're special tiles that appear as part of the Mysteriosity mechanic or in special areas. When you stand on them, they have certain effects like boosting your evasion and letting you attack twice.

>>27804872
You can also find them in the detours.

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>>27801757
quick-save isn't as much of an issue because NONE of the dungeons I've been in so far are terribly long, but you CAN get your ass kicked here and there if you aren't careful.

It's worth it, Anon.

>>27801757
Wait, I forgot there ARE quick saves features. They're called Progress Devices and they'll let you save in dungeon. They don't cost too much, but it will add up if you continually buy them.

However, you might find yourself not buying much else anyway, so it could all balance out.

I got NTR on my 3DS, what do I do to get custom starters

>>27803764
rip rusefox

I super mystery dungeon worth it? I really like Red, blue and time, darkness, sky but hated gates to infinity.

>>27805140
Super is basically what Gates should have been, it's very good

>>27805151
do you have a little quizz at the beginning cause that's my favorite part

>>27805166
I think there is, but you can also choose to ignore your result and pick whatever you want, in case you want a specific starter.

>>27805140
Just played through it again recently, Personally had a lot of fun with it, and gameplay-wise it fixes a lot of problems Gates had and requires more strategy than the othet games (at least until the postgame where you can cheese it with stat boosters, just like in Explorers of Sky). The plot's not bad. There's a lot of references to the past three games, too.
Only problem I really had with it was the break system, which is kind of bullshit.

>>27805166
Yes. You can also choose if you don't like what you get, too.

>>27805198
If the next PMD game comes out with the same basic gameplay as Super but with the break system gone or perhaps removed as a reward for beating the story, and puts randomised quests back in I think it'd be a solid 10/10

>>27804935
they're not quicksaves they're just saves

>start new game in sky
>get my bow and a joy ribbon as starting items
>can't use the joy ribbon because my team won't lvl at the same time

>>27805058
Either download the debugger (NTRClient or one of the forks) or the RAM plugin. Then edit the physical RAM addresses at http://pastebin.com/iahAZvA8 with the values you want, for GtI. If you want to do it for Super, get the addresses from fort42.com/gateshark and the values from psmd.skyeditor.org

If you use the debugger you'll have to use the write command, unless you use a fork that gives you an interface for it.
If you use the RAM Viewer plugin, select the process, press start, enter the address and edit the value

>>27805257
Who's your partner? From what I remember, female partners like Vulpix and Eevee get Joy Ribbons while everyone else gets Defense Scarves.

>>27805257
cyndaquil

>>27805321
meant to reply to you >>27805351

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okay anons, which of you is this?

Now that I have access to level 5 dungeons I could check what Kecleon's levelups are actually like in GtI.

>>27805968
5 HP, 1 in all stats, 30000 exp to the next level. Heh.

>>27806048
Kekening: The Sequel

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>(X) Doubt
I am not sure where did Bulbapedo get that extracensoring list from. Is it really region-exclusive or wha?

>>27806460
Do not bully the Snivy

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>>27806525
>mfw his shenanigans
if this was wooper, it would be perfect.

Also I think 400x240 looks better? The pixels are showing less.

How do you think?

>>27806687
Well, that's what the actual resolution is.

>>27806730
Oh, good to know.

This is why some of my screenshots felt weird; they were effectively at 1.3x the native resolution.

I don't even remember how I got myself a GtI rom that is compatible with Citra, so even if anyone asked, I wouldn't be able to answer.

>>27775006
that's a good twitter account

Wait your partner in GTI is 100% male?

>>27807417
Yep.

>>27807447
Well looks like I'm not getting it, but why tho?

>>27807466
Don't know, and I think it's only the NA version. Pretty sure the nip version has the option to choose their gender.

>>27807489
Well I guess I need to get that version
> What's that version again?

>>27807607
Unless you have a JP 3DS or one that's hacked, you won't be playing that version. Either way I wouldn't be able to help you since the only GtI downloads we have are for the American and European versions.

>>27807696
Well then guess imma have to hack mine >tfw I never played custom starters

>>27807417
>>27807447
Not in the japanese version and not if you mod it. Well, there are a few instances of the english version using male pronouns, but they aren't many.

>>27807466
What? Just because of it?

>why tho?
Same reason in the european version of Super the partner is forced to be female, they just realized that it's not a problem with the american version since it only has english.

>>27807607
>>27807696
>>27807767
You don't actually need to play the japanese version though, look a few threads back.

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Apparently Magnagates defaults into green.

How do you install the DLC packs again?

>>27809704
Just install the .cia. Well, unless you're the one using the emulator, the I have no idea.

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Funfact, this pokemon is pretty much incapable of passing the 15th floor of this place

I'm enough of a lorefag that I want to attempt the Voidlands itemless. Riolu/Fennekin pair at Lv. 23, I'll bring a few apples just so it isn't an anticlimactic hunger death, and I'll only be able to use what I can scrounge in the dungeon. How screwed am I?

>>27813492
You'll probably be fine unless your bad at video games or extremely unlucky.

>>27813582
>out of PP for Focus Blast and Force Palm, Fennekin is out of PP for Ember and Psybeam
>facing Sandile, Counter is up
>Leer x2, basic attacks from me
>Sandile hits me with crit Assurance
>no tiny or regular reviver seeds
I guess I'm just extremely unlucky then.

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>>27800213
While having premade BGs saves time, you also have to take the mon's base color palette into account, such as replacing white with the next lightest color so that when you convert the image to index w/16 colors, you don't end up loosing a lot of the mon's original colors in the process when it tries to keep both colors within the indexed palette.

You can't just add the mon on a BG and expect it to be 16 colors automatically and work.

Example is pic related; each of these portraits uses different, lighter shades to convey the white light in each mon's eyes. Understanding how color works helps with how you can keep them within the palette and look natural.

>>27813492
You pretty much need apples and elixirs, otherwise you'll just starve/run out of pp (though I've almost always left a dungeon with more elixirs than when I started).
At that point, the dungeon should be easy enough.

>next PMD game
>again you get the choice between cool and cute, but only applied to the MC
>both MC and partner have distinct and contrasting personalities, like the PSMD partner
>plot happens, it is revealed both the MC and partner are transformed humans
>actually, they're both MCs, the choice at the start sets which personality and thus dialogue gets the MC, with the partner being the option not picked
>they both disappear at the end
>any more combinations of personality would need a lot more dialogue

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>>27800213
>>27814436
And here are some templates. Some use the exact same BG and colors, while others such as Dizzy and Shocked are general examples of how its supposed to look (depending on the mon, you'll need to edit them accordingly).

>>27816212
Well ok let's say what your saying is true and your not lying what are the MC/partner limitations like who do we get to choose and who don't we get to choose

>>27816328
You get two options (cool and cute, maybe) for the MC, the partner is the other pick and this changes around the dialogue and actions of the MC and partner.
Of course that would need a more active MC that isn't constantly thinking to itself instead of talking, more like the partner instead.

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>>27804900
That is flaccid and frankly useless image of an image for the sole purpose of cherish

>>27801921
>>27804935
he could also just close his 3ds. those things last forever when they're closed

>>27816212
Nothing wrong with this I guess, but it's a little light on details to say anything significant about.

I personally still like that idea an anon had from a few months ago about making the partner the final fight and a psuedo-antagonist throughout the story.

>>27804900
>>27804935
>>27801921
>>27818253
thanks for the responses friends, i'll be picking it up next payday

>be doing destiny tower in super
>treasure hunter emera in floor 2
>by floor 45, 32 slots are taken by treasure chests and 10 are taken by vitamins

Goddamnit I need an Escape Orb.

What is the Red/Blue post game?

>>27820894
Red/Blue postgame is kinda interesting, as you essentially have various branches.

Gimme a sec, I'll post how it goes.

>>27820978
By default, you don't have much; only Waterfall Pond which you can't even access right now. The first thing you need to do is talk to people (first, Medicham) about Lombre accident to unlock Stormy Sea and Solar Cave.

Clearing Stormy Sea and Pitfall Valley unlocks Silver Trench. Clear that, and you get Meteor Cave.

After buying Southern Island FA and picking up HM Surf, Northern Range is unlocked; clear that and you get the Pitfall Valley needed for Stormy Sea.

Once you pick up Surf from Solar Cave, you will unlock the Ho-Oh dungeon chain, which interestingly enough goes past Ho-Oh (Fiery Field->Lightning Field->Northwind Field->Mt. Faraway->Western Cave). Note that you need to recruit Ho-Oh to get the last one.

Buried Relic is unlocked by reading a special mail and talking to people in Square; you supposedly get mail sometime after beating Stormy Sea.

The Lv. 1 dungeons are unlocked by clearing Pitfall Valley and getting Sky Blue Plains FA. How do you get it? In a random mission. YEAH. Help Medicham in Wish Cave and clear Stormy Sea to trigger Murky Cave events.

Desert Region is unlocked with Furnace Desert FA. Southern Cavern and Wyvern Hill need Boulder Cave and Dragon Cave FAs, respectively, both of which are the other two random FAs. Darknight Relic requires Secretive Forest FA. Grand Sea and Far-off Sea require Serene Sea FA. Unown Relic requires both Aged Chambers.

There are also 4 more dungeons you can get with Wonder Mail. I suggest doing so, as the two that are water-themed can spawn Tight Belt on floor. Yeah.

Howling Forest can be accessed before credits roll; it requires Sky Blue Plains.

>>27821112
Also, you need legendary birds recruited to initiate Silver Trench events (you talk to Alakazam, then birds give you the Vortex Stone).

>>27821112
If I'm not mistaken, you can use a wondermail generator to get Sky Blue Plains, no fuss.

>>27821150
The four wonder mail dungeons are in the recruiting guide, btw.

>>27821164
Thanks a lot

>>27821112
Also, Fly comes from Wyvern Hill, which is a requirement to go back to the last story dungeon for recruits and such.

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Bumpng because of this fucking cunt.

>>27822331
>finally die in Western Cave, more than halfway through
>it's weather damage
Blastoise and Charizard are fucking pussies.

>>27822461
visit buried relic more and go digging for Life/Sitrus

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>>27822522
I don't think I need to.

>tfw half of your inventory is Keys, the other half is mostly Reviver Seeds

There are so many Reviver Seeds I skipped over because I couldn't hold any more of them. Wild Pokemon can use them, so I still have no idea how the hell did they faint. Not enough Gummis/underleveled as fuck?

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>>27822701
Okay that was unexpected.


This shop is huge, though.

>>27822833
And Mewtwo dies in two hits.

Most powerful Pokemon my ass.

Also, I did the maths, and...

I've recruited Ho-Oh at Lv. 52 with 611655 EXP. I've went into Western Cave, and beated Mewtwo at Lv. 66 with 906970 EXP. Thus, this run has yielded 295315 EXP, or almost 300 thousand. Granted, I did try to explore every floor, so chances are a 'get to 99FF ASAP' won't give as much EXP. Still, this is a shitton of experience.

>look up 4 stars pokemon
>legendary birds were 4 stars in rescue team
literally why

Discounting these guys, the smallest 4 star is Lapras. He got reduced to 2, making the smallest one Groudon, at 3.5m.

However, gigantic Pokemon seem to be the equivalent of 4 stars, giving Xerneas that title, with 3m. Serperior, Arbok and Dragonair are snakes, Zygarde is big enough.

Let's assume stars were based more on size and not being broken, like that fucking 4 stars castform. What would be the intervals?

Most Pokemon were 1*, some were 2*, and there are also the biggest at 4*. Nothing had 3 stars.

>>27824643
I have no idea why Size was even a thing to begin with. Nearly all of the best pokemon are 1 star

>>27824717
The idea is good though

>>27824971
FA is also a good idea that was badly executed.

Any idea how to fix it? Maybe give some spare room for Pokemon that you don't have a FA yet or just make FAs unnecessary to recruit and instead get them BY recruiting, like some legendaries.

Also, probably be able to form team without having to look for Pokemon

>>27826052
Give more ways to obtain the rare ones. Make the menu that you can look at when you're in a dungeon tell you if you have the friend area or not. Improve the menu that you get before accessing the friend areas. Fixed.

>>27826449
And make friend areas buyable in-dungeon.

>>27826783
>make FAs buyable in-dungeon
how

Did Wigglytuff suddenly get a friendly Abra cashier with Teleport?

>>27827074
The fluff isn't important, what is important is that going to recruit things only to then remember you never bought the friend area in the first place is annoying as fuck, especially with the Rescuers recruiting mechanics and locations and spawn rates of a way too long list of shitmons.

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>>27827149
>we will never have a fanmade remake of Rescue Team which uses superior Sky's recruiting mechanics with better version of comfy Friend Areas
Why even live. They already shot down AM2R at least officially, as 1.01 was recently released, fixing Gravity Suit glitch, among few other fixes and things.

Explorers seems to be the one who got recruiting new Pokemon the best. Rescue Team has this shit, Super relies all the way on Connection Orb which kinda trivializes it desu, and Gates doesn't even have all Unova Pokemon.

Chunsoft, what are you doing.

>>27827266
>never
I honestly think we will one day.

>shot down AM2R
Who cares, even if it happens, and it's unlikely regardless.

>>27827074
>>27827149
It could be like the extra shops in EoS

>>27827422
Well, I can hope.

Some of the newer mechanics could really shine here. Like Groudon goes Primal and it's up to you AND Team ACT to stop that fucker.

Call me a heretic, but I'd like to see 721 Pokemon available. Using Sky's recruiting mechanics (dying doesn't make recruits go away, no star size/party size limits, no Pokemon are exclusive to Lv. 1 dungeons, etc.), of course, as Rescue Team is already hard as balls with the 386 it has.

I want this to see probably because of all new Friend Areas that would be in. They're just so comfy, they make me think of bad ideas

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>it's a "Jigglypuff is only available after beating the whole game" mission
At least connections aren't as bad as going through Western Cave.

Alright, everyone, list your favorite and least favorite thing from each game.

>RRT/BRT
>Like: Creating your own base
This was fun as fuck, and the nostalgia from doing a similar thing in GTI is really what made me tolerate the shitty mechanics of that game.
>Dislike: Buying friend areas
Seriously, recruiting something only to realize you had no friend area was the worst feeling. I liked how comfy friend areas were, but they really could have been executed better. Maybe a Pokemon can hang out in a different area, but you can't bring it with until you get its friend area?

>EOS
>Like: The sheer amount of postgame
No other game, mainline or spinoff, can compare. I can spend just as much time in the postgame as I did in the main game, doing missions as quickly as they appear. It's wonderful.
>Dislike: Certain player/partner Pokemon
Riolu/Eevee is cute, cuuute, and being crippled because she runs away at half health is terrible. I just wish the Sky editor could fix that.

>GTI
>Like: Pokemon Paradise
Mostly on nostalgia from Rescue Team, but still. The idea of creating a Guild from scratch gave me such a warm fuzzy feeling inside.
>Dislike: Starter selection
I could live with the shitty dungeon mechanics, I could live with way-too-few recruitable Pokemon, but limiting my choices to 5 starters was terrible. Especially after Sky's selection. Snivy and Pikachu were the only good choices there - quadrupeds with no way to manipulate things are bad choices, Axew was so OP it made the game (more) boring, and Oshawott is ugly as sin for a Pokemon you'll be looking at for the whole game.

>Super
>Like: The characters before Lively Town
Sure, the Society members may have been flat (besides Archen and Ampharos), but the Serene Village children were great. Even in Lively Town, once the plot really kicked off I started getting involved.
>Dislike: The Connection Orb
Nothing to say here that hasn't been said a hundred times already.

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>>27828816
Rescue Team:
>Like: Buried items
Sky had buried items, but RT had more dungeons with them, and had good items that weren't only Poke. It gave something more to look for and added incentive to explore floors, at least in the dungeons they were in.
>Dislike: Level's massive effect on damage outside of stats
This is in every game, but god damn is it extreme here. Simply put, an Alakazam at level 7 with like 30 special attack or whatever it is hits for 1-2 damage where a level 14 or so Keckeon with the same Special Attack will hit for far more

Sky
>Like: All the ways to make pokemon you'd never think of using great
Between swap items, pokemon belonging to different IQ groups, and use in level 1 dungeons, this is home to an absolutely huge amount of pokemon that most would never even give a second thought to.
>Dislike: Aegis Cave
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Gates
>Like: Quagsire
Best npc in the game, by far
>Dislike: 5 starters
Even if it's mostly gen 5, they could have added more starters, like Minccino and Drilbur

Super
>Like: Chespin being the best starter in every way
>Dislike: Break system
This was a completely unnecessary addition to the game, and almost felt like they were intentionally trying to fuck the game up in some way so they can remove it in the future and get praised for it.

>>27828816
>>27829089
>mfw I've only played Rescue and Explorers enough to have anything to say here

>RESCUE TEAM
>Like: Friend Areas
Very nice idea, although I've been realizing its bad execution. Still great.
>Dislike: Recruiting mechanics
No. Just no.

>EXPLORERS
>Like: Very "meaty" as to speak of
Probably game with the best replay value and playtime in the entire franchise.
>Dislike: Dark Crater
fuck off Cresselia, you're like an iron ball tied to my leg

>>27828816
RT
>big favorite
Friend Areas. It's like the boxes in the main games. I liked seeing my recruits. I just wish they were doing something instead of walking around not having any dialogue.
>least favorite
Recruitment turning every trip into an escort mission. Total deterrence for me.

EoS
>big favorite
Shaymin Village because I love Shaymin, the music was nice and giving gifts was really cute.
>least favorite
Darkrai. The post-game's ending will forever be the most infuriating plot point in the series to me.

GtI
>big favorite
Mysteriosity. What a fucking great idea.
>least favorite
Content I guess. I'm an advocate of quality > quantity but what Gates had didn't really grip me so couldn't suffer through it like I could in Explorers.

SMD:
>big favorite
Partner is the best.
>least favorite
Break system not going away after a certain point/level.

How do I take on the postgame legendaries? they are able to one shot every single team memeber with ease and I can't deal enough damage back, even with a full page of reviver seeds. I have already stat boosted my starters with vitamins a bunch (all stats are between 85 and 100).

>>27829484
>all stats are between 85 and 100
More buffs required. Please buff your children more.

I assume you are playing Super, right?

>>27829484
Truant Wands, Confuse Wands, Slow Wands, Alliances.
You can do it, anon

>>27829511
How much buffing should I strive for?
Swampert and Charizard, both level 48.

>>27829543
They're able to break free of the effect only a single turn later, and then one shot me with an AOE move.

>>27829570
Truant is the most important, since bosses can't change their ability back and will keep losing turns for the rest of the fight. The others can just sometimes buy you an extra turn of not being one-shotted, but that can still be useful.

I'd say +10 to all stats is good until some of the late post-game dungeons, where you'll want to add another 10. If you just go nuts with them it just kills any challenge and makes it all less fun.

>>27829570
Stock up on reviver seeds and spam Alliances until the L button breaks.

>>27829484
Roids. Just brute force it. That's what I did
Think the only Legendary I used items on was Mewtwo

>>27829953
>>27829989
>>27830012
So I should spend those 350 gold bars. Gotcha.

>I'd say +10 to all stats is good until some of the late post-game dungeons
I've recruited 634 pokemon, I kept all the legendary and the harder treasure quests for the end.

One thing I always disliked about these games is that I really like Steel types, but the only choices for steel starters are Riolu and Piplup, and both of those require evolution.

I noticed in the OP a thing to get custom starters; how complicated is that? Would it be game breaking to start as an Aron or Skarmory or something?

>>27830379
In Rescue Team, custom starters are currently impossible as the game freezes in cutscenes (due to no special animations).
In Explorers, most Pokemon don't really have any emotion portraits, so they will use default ones. Also, no special animations, so eg. they will "sleep" weirdly.

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ok, so I'll just continue playing this in like.... the beginning of next month, when I have more time

>>27830494
Well, that's a shame.

I guess I'll go with Cubone then.

>>27830544
>That image
Not sure if commish or coin in ze dense

>>27828816
>Rescue Team
>Like: Friend Areas
I've mentioned this in an earlier thread, but I like the Friend Areas a lot because I always viewed them as the small towns and villages to Pokemon Square's "big city". On top of being wonderful pieces of pixelart each and everyone of them, seeing them slowly fill up with more and more recruits made the entire world feel more alive and vibrant, which helped the game's sense of scope.
>Dislike: Friend Areas
Unfortunately, as the other anon mentioned, having to buy them, or recruiting something and realizing you didn't have the right area yet, was absolutely infuriating. Perhaps having them unlock automatically would have been better, though then maybe they would have defeated the point.

>Explorers
>Like: Amount of content
I know that technically Super has "the most content of any PMD game", but Explorers has always felt more compelling to me, story-wise and gameplay-wise. The "ways to make Pokemon great" anon offers a good point why - with numerous treasures, IQ groups and various other things to discover, there's an enormous amount of depth tucked away.
>Dislike: IQ EXP Curve
This is my only real major nitpick with Explorers, but even though I think they got the IQ system very close to perfect, the sheer amount of gummis needed to maximize it is the biggest crippling downfall the system has. It can take the entire precredits and postcredits content to get enough gummis to max out your player and partner, and once you hit post-postcredits stuff, it's hard to motivate yourself to do it all again for another mon.

>>27830379
It's pretty easy to do.
>game breaking
The regular starters have better stats than normal Pokémon in Explorers. If you avoided boosting your naturally lower stats could make up for your type.

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>mfw I've just realized Fissure essentially tries to throw the target into a Pitfall Trap
S A V A G E

>>27830700
>Gates
>Like: Pokemon Paradise
I think the idea of having your own customizable base was the best way they could have expanded on Explorers' gameplay - it allows for tons more personalization while also offering more motivation to keep doing missions as well as being a potential moneysink (I have nearly 300k gold in Explorers and nothing to spend it on).
>Dislike: Take a guess
Unfortunately, all that customization and general good ideas-ing came at the cost of pretty much gutting the core gameplay, which is an incredible shame. Small roster, changes to IQ, lack of hunger, and the general lack of content and "depth" compared to Explorers was a big disappointment.

>Super
>Like: Small QoL changes
Super isn't a game I'm very fond of, so usually when I think about the good I think about "man if it hadn't wasted its potential here this would have been awesome", but I will readily admit that the little quality of life changes make for a smoother experience, save for one or two. Changing leaders, hardcoding certain IQ skills as a permanent part of teammate AI, etc etc, make things that little bit more pleasant.
>Dislike: Emeras
There's a lot of stuff I could put here for aforementioned reasons, but I think Emeras hit a sore spot for me because of how much I love the IQ system in Explorers, but also because I feel like Emeras could have surpassed them in some ways. IQ skills were basically "classes", while Emeras allow you to customize what skills each Pokemon has via the looplets. The idea that you could collect lots of emeras and then set up looplets before a dungeon-crawl in order to customize your characters even further was an incredibly appealing idea (like Etrian MD's skill trees, except even more in your hands). Unfortunately, since Emeras always disappear and lack any real permanence, it just wasn't to be.

>>27830835
I suppose you're right about emeras, although personally I feel the Connection Orb was a worse sin. Out of curiosity, would you have liked rarer "rainbow emeras" that remain in the looplet between dungeons but can never be taken out once put in place, specifically in conjunction with normal emeras?

>>27828816
Rescue Team
>Like: Friend Areas
Comfy as fuck and the ultimate incentive to recruit them all
>Dislike: Can't send recruits back
I've been to Silver Trench and Joyous Tower too many times

Explorers
>Like: Treasures
Lots of nice treasures in dungeons behind locked doors and at the end of the level 1 dungeons to encourage exploring.
>Dislike: Guild characters
The guild members do basically nothing and have little characterisation, but get loads of screentime. Special Episodes helped a bit, though.

Gates
>Like: Paradise
Being able to build up the area around your base with facilities and have your recruits stay there is great. Having building materials as rewards for missions makes doing them worthwhile since the rewards aren't just things you can pick up in a dungeon.
>Dislike: Lack of engaging post-game objectives
Weren't any interesting treasures and you had to get lucky to get a chance at recruiting the legendaries. After you've built the good stuff in Paradise all you have left is dojos for types you don't use. Not so much to do.

Super
>Like: Teammates are more useful
Better AI means they position themselves more effectively, ranged attacks passing through allies means they can chip in in corridor fights, and higher enemy HP means their attacks matter more. And they'll pick up items for you.
>Dislike: Break system
This has no reason to be a thing in the post-game.

>>27830682
I... what? English would be very nice you know

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>>27828816
RT
>Liked the post-game dungeons
For some reason I always found these dungeons to be comfy af
>Disliked the auto-save for some of those dungeons
This had cost me so many items and trips back in the day, it's an unnecessary feature

EoS
>Liked Spinda's Cafe and the Shaymin quest
Despite the length of Gummi-grinding, I always liked the cafe, and the fact it actually had a story with Sky Peak (which was fun as fuck to play through)
>Disliked the storage space
RT had the right idea with being able to stack items in storage and have no limits. Why the fuck EoS gave you limits is another thing.

GTI
>Liked the characters
After a second playthrough and Super, I've come to like GTI's small cast. Only complaint is Munna's gang being rather big and oddballed, and the other 2 musketeers not being part of the story
>Disliked Paradise
There's a lot of things I hate in GTI, and Paradise I feel was the most useless thing ever.
You can barely get any items from taking only 1 god damn job a day and making me crawl to build mostly useless facilities isn't worth building it.

Super
>Liked the game's improved AI and general item usage
This game fucking trained me to use items and not be shy about it with its murderous difficulty.
>Disliked the story
As interesting as it was, the fact that it felt so out-of-place and more at home in GTI made me dislike it entirely. Why they didn't make Super just an updated GTI is beyond me.

>>27830995
The Connection Orb also bugs me, but for all its problems, it still means there were "technically" more Pokemon available. It might have come with a lot of strings attached, but still.

The idea of certain permanent emeras showing up in some looplets is a nice idea, but it doesn't sound all that much different from the looplets that have effects attached to them already. What I was thinking was being able to collect lots of emeras (maybe even have a separate storage for them?), rifling through the ones you want and don't want, and then attaching them to your looplets in order to create... well, "builds", so to speak. The emeras themselves would probably need some more balancing tweaks to make up for the fact that they'd be permanent, but I feel like that idea would slot in nicely with the whole personalization aspect of Pokemon, being able to make your team your own and everything.

>>27832877
That's sort of what I was imagining. There would be the current emeras, but rarely you could find Rainbow Emeras that could be taken out of dungeons. These could be set in any looplet you had, but couldn't be removed once set, and would permanently stay in the looplet. You'd be faced with a choice - gamble on finding better non-permanent emeras in the dungeon, risk finding better emeras and having a subpar looplet, or...?

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What's the best way to level on Sky, besides just generating a bunch of Golden Seeds?

>>27833321
>take Golden Chamber missions
>go to sky peak and burn off a fuckton of money on grab bags trying to get Joy Seeds

So guys, I have a question for you. You are all people that, just like me, like pokémon and like to enjoy pokémon in the best possible medium.

I have a hacked o3ds and a non-hacked n3ds XL (firmware 11+). I have no money, but I want to play super mystery dungeon.
Should I wait for a sale or for me to get money? Or should I just get it for the o3ds and be done with it?

>>27833313
Ohh, I see what you mean now, sorry about that. That definitely sounds much more in line with what I'd like, yeah.

>>27833578
If you don't have the money to spend on a single 3ds game that you want, then you should probably be spending your time improving your financial situation.

But I think you're just looking for people to tell you to pirate, so go for it. o3ds to n3ds isn't a big difference, and if you must play it now then just download it.

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>>27828816
RT
>Like: Friend Areas
They were pretty cool looking, and Pokemon having their own habitats that they live in was nice.
>Dislike: How Friend Areas were handled
For fucks sake stop automatically taking Pokemon off my team after every mission. Also, getting used to the way they worked was a bit confusing, leaving a friend area takes you to a map screen, instead you have to press B to bring up the list of Pokemon again.

Explorers
>Like: the Manaphy quest
Broing it out with your partner and raising a kid was cute.
>Dislike: the difficulty
Or rather, lack of it. Certain IQ skillsets completely break the game, and the game can be made even easier simply by using all of your Gummis. Almost all of the enemies in the game can be steamrolled by simply using your STAB move and later A attack once the Gummi gains start kicking in.

Gates
>Like: The plot/characters
Having a group of 5 instead of just you and your partner really helped give the team more of a personality. I felt like a lot of the cast served a purpose overall.
>Dislike: The Pokemon variety
Most of the mons only being from Gen V made it harder for me to teambuild. Custom starters can help with the game's pitiful starter variety, but even then you're stuck with mostly Unovamons.

Super
>Like: The first half of the story
Serene Village was pretty nice, and the cast there had a good dynamic. Too bad the second half killed it.
>Dislike: The break system
Everyone else already said it. Fuck breaks.

>>27833578
You can hack 11+ 3DS systems, provided you also have another hacked one.
https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki/DSiWare-Downgrade
There's no real difference to playing SMD on an o3DS and n3DS, unless you use CFW for the latter to overclock it.

>>27834287
No, not really. The reason I have an unpirated n3ds XL is so I can buy games that I spend a lot of time on and that I really wish to experience in a larger screen. I'm a college student with barely any money and I did buy monster hunter last month, so there's that.

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>Explorers Diglett and Rescue Team Diglett are the same person
Who knew?

>>27837016
I didn't, and I don't think it really makes much sense.

>>27827658
>not wanting pokemon to be exclusive to level 1 dungeons
That's not what's bad about it, the issue is that you have to go back after you recruit them because you can't send them home from the menu.
Also, I hope Chunsoft doesn't do any PMD remake, that's something we should do

>>27829089
>so they can remove it in the future and get praised for it I hope that's not the case, they'd be stealing Game Freak's job.

>>27829570
>evolving

>>27828816
RT
Like: The way the postgame is structured and the way they tried to make postgame dungeon feel special. And the plot being kind of different when compared to the other games, but this isn't something good about RT, it's something bad about GtI and Super.
Dislike: Recruits going back to their friend area after every mission.

Explorers
Like: The huge amount of content in both gameplay and story
Dislike: I can't think of something in particular, it's more about small details from RT that aren't in Explorers. Probably the worst thing is making the level 1 dungeons don't seem worth it. But at least they do have some interesting stuff, unlike GtI.

GtI
Like: All of the new things they've tried. Mysteriosity in particular. And the new way the buttons are used.
Dislike: The game isn't completed. It misses a lot of stuff it should have.

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If anyone is interested.
https://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?46904&p=219196#post219196

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It's not that bad, though I guess I would have liked it more if you could also change the colours of the rest of the house.
It's weird that the intro actually shows it with your colours, and even weirder that the title screen doesn't. About that, what's Quagsire doing there?

>>27839840
I hope the next PMD game also has a partner this hyper

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Progress on Oddish's portraits so far (Mareep's as placeholders for what's missing).

>>27837072
Well, I suppose that does solve problems. Also un-ban Tiny Woods. It's stupid as fuck and basically throws two Pokemon from 'more common than Tentacool' to 'more rare than a fucking Abra' for no goddamn reason.
Well, Metroid fandom has shown that yes, they can do what Nintendon't.

Now which system would we use? Chunsoft has been playing with how moves and Abilities work since Gates to Infinity; like how Truant has a positive sideffect in Super and Pursuit no longer sets up status since Gates (?)

>>27822903
bump for 'western cave takes forever in post-production' episode

http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/content/pokemon-mystery-dungeon-moves.html
So there's this. Note that effect under index 28 seems to be an error on the website's part; both moves actually lower Sp. Def (since Crunch was still special).

Obviously, there are changes like Blizzard being shit, or fixed damage moves being way better.

>>27801962
Makes sense thanks friend.

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Farfetch'd for lethal joke character?

Is Shedinja one of the best characters in PSMD?
>Can walk through walls
>HP and defenses can be boosted
>Gets Confuse Ray
Equipped with a Detect Looplet, or even better a Satiated Looplet, it's nearly unstoppable. Obviously don't take it to Fire Island, but I just walked through World Tree and only had to worry about 3 Pokémon the whole way (Magby, Eevee, Meowth; latter two had Bite).

Recently decided to boot up Red Rescue Team again, and noticed that VBA always fails to save the game, even if I do the whole "Switch to 128k" thing. Any other ways of fixing this?
Am using an European rom currently, if that matters.

>>27846724
Set it to 128K, delete ALL files about the game that aren't the ROM itself, and try again

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>>27845075
>Vegas Pro 13 crashes at 99% after it 5 hours of rendering
>the entire thing gets corrupted

>>27846765
That seemed to work, thanks, anon.

This may sound like a stupid question, but what's even the difference between 64K and 128K? Will using 128K over 64K make some other games fail to save, or something?

>>27846862
To my knowledge, there's not a point in doing it, but it's been a long time. Setting it to 128K should, by the way, fix the internal battery being dry for Emerald, should you play that

To evolve, or not to evolve? Riolu/Fennekin duo here. The benefits are a plethora of new moves for Riolu and a Steel typing, while Fennekin gets some new Psychic-type moves, a few new tutor moves, and a pair of arms. The downside is that I lose the cute portraits and the wake-up animations. Is it worth it, and will the Destiny Tower sequence have any different cutscenes if I take it as a pair of unevolved 'mons?

>>27847426
Evolving's fine for your starters if you prefer the way the evolved forms look or if they have better movesets, but otherwise there's not much of a benefit. In the postgame only three portraits get used anyway (neutral, sweating, and in your partner's case smiling) and since every Pokemon has those three, you don't lose any expressiveness. Wouldn't recommend evolving anyone but starters, since you won't get replacements for them if you do that, so they're gone forever.
Not sure on the Destiny Tower part though.

>>27847504
I'd agree on not evolving anyone else, and the only others I'd like to evolve can't be evolved anyway - the Serene Village kids and the unevolved Society members, specifically. It'd just be nice to see them growing up/getting stronger with us, but oh well.

And yeah, on Destiny Tower, I could see them using you and your partner's surprised portraits (and maybe your partner's proud portrait) upon receiving the invitation or making it to the top, and maybe even upon completing the treasure list. Can anyone who's completed either or both confirm?

>>27843870
I'd go for the PSMD moves and abilities myself, more of them are actually useful.
Pursuit is an attack with bonus damage if the target has a status in GtI, yeah.

I just maxed all stats except speed for my partner and me in PSMD. Is there a good place to farm sitrus berries? I only found one in Spiral Vortex besides the few ones I found in sparkling tiles or chests but they still feel really rare.

Fuck this magmortar fight. I beat it once then entries two shot me while confused

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>SMD's Tight Belt clone uses the donut model
Okay, that's pretty funny.

>>27851772
>infinite donut
That universe is looking better and better.

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>>27846768
7 hours later, Western Cave episode is finally on YouTube. Time to have SOME fun and not pain and misery.
Omega Ruby loses focus faster on Citra than Gates; probably because it uses 3D more. There are also graphical issues here and there, but it's playable if you know how to handle it. We entering 3DS emulation era, ladies.

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>Azurill is from Explorers
>Marill nowhere to be found
Weird.

Also reposting the PSMD and GTI download links since we reached bump limit. Almost all the ones in the OP are dead, and it's still not updated, so hopefully whoever makes the new thread will do that.
http://pastebin.com/kh7GcnYm

>>27855143
>http://pastebin.com/kh7GcnYm
I'll fix it right now.

Made the new thread early, so i'd remember to fix the OP.

>>27855270
>>27855270
>>27855270

So I just got SMD to fill in time until Sun/Moon, and I can't settle on a starter + partner. What's the partner's personality like this time around?
I don't want to start playing and end up resetting for new starters like I did with Sky.

Also, my favorites from each gen are
>Charmander
>Totodile
>Treecko
>Turtwig
>Oshawott
>Chespin
And I hate Riolu, but like Pikachu. I don't ever evolve my starters either.
Suggestions?

>>27855297
>What's the partner's personality like this time around?
Hyper
>I don't ever evolve my starters either.
well in Super there really isn't a point to evolving other from typing or aesthetic
>Suggestions?
Chespin PC/Fennekin Partner
>Bu-
Just do it. Trust me

>>27855297
Chespin is absolutely the best choice for the protag in my eyes. Do this >>27855513

>>27805308
English pls