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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>New trailer for upcoming events, now in HD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeyVL5FCCM8

>Movie 19: Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna [Jul 16th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/
NEW Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWtBDuxrcS0

Next episode:
>XY&Z032: The Kalos League Begins! Mega Charizard Showdown: X VS Y!! [Jun 30th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/

Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z033: Mega Sceptile VS Raichu! I Received Some EXP!! [Jul 7th]
>Pokémon the movie XY&Z Premiere Commemorative "The Archdjinni of Rings: Hoopa"/"Pikachu and the Pokémon Musicians" Fierce! Startling!! 2 Hour Pokémon Movie Special [Jul 14th]

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
It sure looks that way.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>26795607
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DP68 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_-_Diamond&Pearl_-_537_DP068_Tobari_Gym!_Lucario_VS_Buoysel!![H264_AC3_DVDSUB][45B4C903].mkv.torrent

XY&Z9 POKETV SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_009_Terminus_Cave!_The_Mystery_of_Z_is_Set_in_Motion!!_PokeTV_segment[H264_720P][043BB9D6].mkv.torrent

XY&Z27 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_027_Eisetsu_Gym_Match!_A_Battlefield_of_Ice!![H264_720P][8008B708].mkv.torrent

XY&Z28 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=815088

XY&Z29 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=817145

XY&Z30 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=819172

XY&Z31 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=821168

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z32: THE KALOS LEAGUE BEGINS! MEGA LIZARDON SHOWDOWN: X VS Y!! (JUNE 30TH)
>The beginning of the Kalos League is finally here! Everyone participating in the league are tough fighters that have gathered 8 badges. And among them are Trainers Ash has met before, like Shota, Tierno and Trevor. His excitement is at absolute max! But then, a Trainer suddenly challenges him to a battle!
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EPISODE 28 SOON?
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 38 (June 26th)

XY&Z033: Mega Sceptile VS Raichu! I Received Some EXP!! (Jul 7th)
>Fierce fights happen one after another in the Kalos League. Shota and Tierno go up against each other over a place in the semifinals. Shota has also made a personal analysis of Tierno, who specializes in a rhythm strategy that uses dancing to stay in sync with his Pokémon, and makes full use of it as he goes up against him. Both of them fight furiously with neither giving an inch, and the battle eventually comes down to the last Pokémon on each side. But then Ash and his friends spot something... but what?

Pokémon the movie XY&Z Premiere Commemorative "The Archdjinni of Rings: Hoopa"/"Pikachu and the Pokémon Musicians" Fierce! Startling!! 2 Hour Pokémon Movie Special (Jul 14th)
>The grand "Legend VS Legend" battle airs for the first time anywhere!
>The 2015 blockbuster The Archdjinni of Rings: Hoopa & Pikachu and the Pokémon Musicians
>Also features a SMASHING world premiere showcase of footage from this year's Pokémon movie, Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna!
>The Fierce! Startling!! 2 Hour Pokémon Movie Special airs Thursday July 14th at 6pm

DREADREA (BY SERENA, CV MAYUKI MAKIGUCHI):
http://www.megafileupload.com/aynY/DreaDrea_(Serena,_CV_Mayuki_Makiguchi).aac

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA CHAPTER 1:
http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
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>>26801096
So this is the power of autism...
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>I'll marry aniki!
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>>26801106
no, this one is
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>>26801076
it'll be like last time. despite the break giving ample time to advance on subs they'll release 28 the day of or before the new ep to stay 4 eps behind
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>>26801096
>>26801115
Haha Dedenne made a lot of funny faces.
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>>26801096
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Beach episode when? maybe after the league we can get a filler in the beach.
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Every thread until you like it.
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>>26801149
Nice.
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>>26801175
I actually like it.
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>>26801175
i like it
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Gay
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>>26801241
Faggit
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Why are they so cute together?
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>>26801299
I think they have a good chemistry
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>>26801299
Because Dawn is basically FemAsh.
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>anitube is down
great, where can I find older episodes with jap audio now
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>>26801333
Which episodes?
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>>26801299
Confident Dawn best Dawn.
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>>26801355
Dawn a cute
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https://my.mixtape.moe/gkylpu.webm

Let's look back at the times where Pokemon went full DBZ before X/Y.
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>>26801241
No homo.
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>>26801402
Still the best battle segment in the shows history
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>>26801402
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VRmP6aWM8A

Type: Wild is literatly the best anime song
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>>26801241
How are we looking at the sub situation?
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>>26801347
not subbed episodes in general
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>>26801299
Twins usually are, especially when they're different genders.
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>>26801445
I think 28 is halfway done or so?
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I want to call Bonnie a lady.
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>>26801460
Search for stitchix on nyaa
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Looks like DPnostalgiafag is back
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>>26801482
What an ashole
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>>26801482
Yea, bantering is for siblings. Real, serious fights are for couples.
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>>26801482
Better like that.
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>>26801469
Neat.
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>>26801504
She's too good for him anyways
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>>26801487
thanks
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>>26801531
She's a dyke. No man is good enough according to her.
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>>26801549
>screenshot of Dawn calling boys a pain
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>>26801241
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>>26801549
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Well, Ash and Dawn were much more close than what Ash and Serena are now, that's for sure.

Ash just doesn't mesh well with passive girls like Serena.
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>>26801554
>Iris agreed
>the only character Iris seemed to have anything approaching feelings for was that girl from her village
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>>26801568
IrisxAsh confirmed
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>>26801568
You mean he meshes better with Serena than with Dawn.
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They were made for each other
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>>26801568
You're better off not trying, anon. I promise you.
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Find a flaw.
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>>26801616
Yeah
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We need more Dawn.
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>>26801618
Didn't rape Dent
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>>26801618
Isn't real
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>>26801568
Dawn should have been retconned in as Ash's long lost half sister. It would have been believeable if she were related to im.
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I miss Conway
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My only problem with Dawn is her personality did get stagnant after the halfway point of DP. Besides her practicing Contest appeals, her personality didn't change much for the rest of the saga. Her interaction with her rivals was stagnant too, nothing changed between her and Zoey/Kenny at all. Maybe if Ursula appeared more it would have been better.
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>>26801636
Stay mad Serena.
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>>26801587
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>>26801664
>he can't read
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>>26801568
They are different type of relationship, Ash usually doesn't talk like that >>26801482 about Serena, he is respectful with her, and i like it that way.
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>>26801488
DP began 10 years ago back in 2006. Is it a surprise some people have gotten nostalgic for it? Especially for those of us who were watching it when it originally aired.

DP is also where people started watching the Japanese version more regularly for the first time due to the dub VA switch. Only a very small percentage of the fandom watched AG in Japanese when it was airing, and not till the later half of it. Back in 2002-2005 most of us were young teenagers and had no idea how to download torrents.
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>>26801549
>No man is good enough according to her.
She is straight but all the men she met have been underachievers compared to her standards.
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>>26801701
This sounds like Scott
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>>26801709
>dawn
>straight

Kekoslovakia, stay made delusional Dawnfag.
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>>26801720
Serena is so fucking useless holy shit
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>>26801709
Kenny would turn Ellen DeGeneres into a raging heterosexual. Literally nobody wanted anything to do with him.
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>>26801728
that's just her projecting her love of prof. oak's poetry onto him. it's meaningless once taken into context
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>>26801728
Dawn is such a qt
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>>26801568
Is this Soniman being mad about the whole Ash/Serena not needing to focus on friendship but still has them closer?
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>>26801753
>forcing this dumb lesbian meme
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Is Dawn the most uninspired pokegirl yet?

>same goal as May
>copy paste of Ash's personality with a hint of May's
>little characyer development
>no personality change

The only thing that stood out was her being a dyke.
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So why did the May/Drew shipping subplot succeed while the Dawn/Kenny one failed?

It seemed the writers wanted Dawn/Kenny to be the next Contestshipping at first but then dropped it when they realized how unpopular Kenny was. What made May/Drew so popular especially among female fans?
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>>26801720
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>>26801701
Fuck off, Scott.
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>>26801773
>everything I deny is a meme durr
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>>26801754
>>26801785
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Is there only one subber for [PM]? Why are they so fucking slow?
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>>26801793
No, Dawn being lesbian is a meme.

They would never add someone who isn't straight into Pokemon because they don't care about their sexualities.
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Best girl
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>>26801754
>fixes Ash
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>>26801801
They're lazy.
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>XY watch log: episode 36
>I still forget that Serena is even a character aside from that one episode about her shitty fox being afraid of getting dirty
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>>26801803
are you seriously forgetting someone this much
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>>26801812
>Ash fixed himself
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>>26801807
>lifting her dress up
>making the face
Slut
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>>26801803
They don't care about the regressive West and their homosexuality everywhere, people project too much of it into Pokemon. None of the main girls have been gay so far.
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>>26801549
no real hint tath Dawn is a dyke, but Serena...
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>>26801824
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>>26801821
What did he show that implied he was gay? All he did was act flamboyant.
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>>26801824
>>Ash fixed himself
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>>26801834
This fucking guy.png
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>>26801845
His voice, mannerisms, shaking his butt. All gay stuff.
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>>26801838
Why does her face look fat there?
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>>26801860
Shauna fed her drugged brownies to force herself on Serena even though Serena keeps herself for Ash.
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>>26801820
>>I still forget that Serena is even a character aside from that one episode about her shitty fox being afraid of getting dirty

That episode really highlights how weakly written Serena is. Getting her Pokemon through a muddy pool is basically the best character development she has gotten. Kek.
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>>26801856
>Shaking your butt
Is Shin-Chan gay now?
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>>26801875
He wanted Action Bastard's sausage, so yeah.
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>>26801868
but both are blushed so both are lesbos
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>>26801875
Yes?
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>>26801839
Wait, that episode got subbed already?
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>>26801885
Serena isn't. Did you confuse her for Dawn and Zoey for some reason?
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>>26801872
Serena has such pussy pokemon. Fennekin afraid of dirt, Braxien crying over a stick and her eevee being a pussy little shit. I can say that her Pancham is the only decent one.

Can't say much about Sylveon since it seems fine so far.
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>>26801914
Serena doesn't care about Pokemon, as she almost never uses/trains them. She only cares about Ash. Will be happy the day that she leaves, because she feels misplaced in this anime.
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>>26801914
Because they're female while Pancham's the only male in her group kind of like how you have everyone in Ash's be male except Talonflame?

Speaking of which, Clemont's is nothing but a sausagefest.
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>>26801903
still denies that serena is a fucking dyke
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>>26801931
>implying
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>>26801944
Trying so hard? Cute.
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>>26801941
Magnemite and Magneton are genderless. :^)
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>>26801855
The only regressive thing that hurts the show at this point is female anime staff that ruins Serena.
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>>26801931
>Serena doesn't care about Pokemon, as she almost never uses/trains them.
>episodes show her and her Pokemon training
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They're going all out again, I see.
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I miss her
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>>26801952
I didn't mean the gym Pokemon but yeah.
His traveling group is nothing but male. Dedenne as well if you count it.
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>>26801562
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why Whorena is is whore?
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>>26801618
Flat.
In love is a guy who is probably gay
Shitty trainer
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>>26801781

Contest succeeded because the Sakura/Syaoran vibes. May was the klutz girl and Drew was the arrogant ace boy just like Syaoran.

They tried the osananajimi route with Dawn and Kenny, but kinda backfired because pearl was popular when DP started. Keep in mind Inuyasha was still a big thing there in Japan, despite the anime being put on hiatus and Dawn had some resemblance with Kagome.

That makes the big question... is Amour popular because of NaruHina influences or was there something more???

>Afaik, Pokeshipping wasn't very popular in ching chong land, despite idiot x tsun couples (kenkappuru in Japan) being at its peak in late 90s.
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>>26801972
Epic.
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>>26801979
>flat being a problem
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>>26801962
Based Tomioka killed most of the shitposting with XY&Z29. They are drowning.
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>DPfag responding to himself in a attempt to make Serena look bad

Fucking kek, stay pathetic and make me laugh faggot.
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>>26801977

>Whorena
>not implying the ine and only whore was that slut from Kanto who treated the MC like shit and lusted over Orange Islands' dicks. And had zero rights to get jealous over a movie only character and a moe competitor in johto because of that.
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Is Mega Obamasnow stronger than Mega Gardevoir?
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>>26801872
Seriously.
She does like nothing at all, I even forget she has a pokemon half the time because it's never involved in the plot aside from that one episode so far.
I mean, have any of Ash's partners only had one pokemon for as long as Serena has?

>>26801931
I just hope Aloha is Ash + 2 instead of the whole Ash + 2 + sibling of one of the two.
Hoenn didn't have the issue quite as bad due to Brock being established and May and Max really meshing with them, but the XY cast is fairly weak.
Bonnie is okay because she's really more of a relief character and her 'gimmick' is only occasional and is made up by her adorableness over things, but Clemont is forced hard with his stupid inventions.
And then Serena, after 36 episodes, all I know about her is that she was helped by Ash once at a camp, has a crush on him for it, likes fashion, and her mom is a racer.
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>>26802005
>Thinking it's one person.
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>two weeks of this shit

Alright, I see you next saturday for the new preview.
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>>26801984
Here we fucking go.
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>>26801982
Pokeshipping wasn't popular in Japan because it wasn't really a thing in the anime, so it was just some randoms' headcanon.
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>>26801967
Same
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>>26801982
>is Amour popular because of NaruHina influences or was there something more???
I think is because Serena is a cute sweet girl who truly loves Ash since she was a kid, and is interesting to follow this subplot and expect for her to win the Ash.
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>>26802033
>tfw the anime will be dull as fuck again when Selene becomes the main girl.
Just bring back Dawn already.
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>>26802045
It's popular because it IS a subplot.
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>>26802028
Says everyone who's never watched OS ever
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>>26802028
This.
I am basically a pokeshipper and like 70% of the basis behind it is dub fuckery or otherwise non-canon things. Yeah, there were hints and what people could call chemistry, but it wasn't a focus.
Really, most pokeshippers are just people who watched the anime early on and had a crush on Misty while wanting to be Ash.

>>26801982
>is Amour popular because of NaruHina influences
I don't get that vibe from Serena at all.

>>26802045
>Serena is a cute sweet girl who truly loves Ash since she was a kid
You can't seriously believe this.
Maybe now she actually loves him, but all that was with the camp thing was a crush because of Ash doing what Ash does for anyone.
In fact, that just hurts her character more, because she clearly hasn't really grown from the camp until she shows up in the anime.
Her whole character, at least where I've seen so far, is weak and completely reliant on Ash to stand up at all.
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>>26802063
I just hope Selene or whoever the SM girl has a goal that involves some actual battling. Three years with Serena who doesn't do any battling at all... yeah, boring as fuck.
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>>26802080
Dubfag pls
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>>26802109
>I just hope Selene or whoever the SM girl has a goal that involves some actual battling.
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>>26802119
Says everyone who's never watched subbed OS ever
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>>26802109
Only Lillie so far seems to be a worthy replacement for Serena, she wont be into battling but that's mostly a man's thing to do.
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>>26802063
She could be cool. Better than Serena, at least.
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>>26802105
That whole reuniting back in XY 5-6 was basically what happened with Naruto and Hinata in the chuunin exams.
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>>26801469
Why is Sushi taking so long
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>>26802063
>Dawn fought against a Maylene even though contests are her goal
I wonder if she could have won a badge if she did won
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>>26802080
>>26802126
Says someone who hasn't watched subbed OS ever.
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>>26802148
Not a chance, she doesn't even come close to short hair Serena.
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>>26802176
Dawn also battled Maylene at the beginning of her run when she was still technically a rookie. If Dawn battled Maylene again in late DP she'd do much better.
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>>26802145
You're just a retard 77.
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>>26802105
Pokeshipping was also on the basis that the anime was going to be a short-lived cartoon. Most kids shows have a romance between the two leads, and back then nobody could have predicted the anime would go on for 20 years.

Had the anime ended after Kanto or even Johto, its understandable why people thought Pokeshipping might happen back then,
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>>26802173
She's busy dodging family meetings so she can't be at home with her computer. :^)
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>>26802109
>has a goal that involves some actual battling
>actual battling
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>>26802164
No, no it isn't at all.

>>26802109
It would be a nice change.

>>26802213
That's true too.
Makes you wonder how things might have been different if they were told back then that pokemon would still be going strong in 20 years.
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>>26802198
>black hair n black eyes
A fucking Downgrade.
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Is may dabbing?
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>>26802105
>Maybe now she actually loves him, but all that was with the camp thing was a crush because of Ash doing what Ash does for anyone.
I doubt she would keep this with her all these years if she wasn't truly in love, that's the reason why she follows him since the beginning.
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Would you?
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>>26802249
just stop. Youre just going to dissapoint yourself at the end. Its quite sad actually
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>>26801481
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>>26802234
If the writers knew now what they did back then, I suspect Misty and Brock would have been axed in the anime a lot earlier than they were. It seems the writers were reluctant to remove them at first because they had no idea if the anime would be successfull without Ash's first two companions.

That's why Misty got so many specials/cameos in AG. The writers were keeping Misty's character alive just in case May backfired or they had to return to her. You could tell when Hoenn was airing they were leaving the door open for Misty to return. Its only once they realized how quickly May became popular and the Contests took off in the series, it made them realize they had no reason to go back to Misty.

I think it says a lot Misty's final episode was AG134, right after Ash came home from the Hoenn league. The writers probably knew back then that would be one of her final eps of the series. Once Battle Frontier started Misty never did appear again outside of flashbacks.
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>>26802234
Who are "they"? The writers or the dubbers making changes based on their assumptions of what the writers will e doing in the future?
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>>26802105
>there were hints and what people could call chemistry

The funny thing is that had /padt/ existed back then, those hints would very probably have been taken as way more significant than they are now. Just look at the way every single sentence or gesture is dissecated in here and overanalyzed for weeks on end and try to imagine the same with Misty back in the day.

The dub changes are one thing, but OS had its shipping moments and thinking about it I'm glad this thread wasn't around then.
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>>26802268
Fuck off, Scott.
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>>26802281
Are you retarded?
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>>26802249
>truly in love
>since age 6
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>>26802234
>No, no it isn't at all.
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>>26802281
These threads analyse every second of the Serena moments but pretend the Misty ones didn't happen at all.
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>>26802281
The sad thing is female fans saw Misty as some sort of role model because of her temper/attitude and think all females have to be that way. That's why Misty fans bashed May and Dawn for years, they saw them as "girly replacements" and weren't as tough as Misty was.

Its like they imprinted on Misty as kids and Misty gave them this view of what female characters should act like. Which is ridiculous because had any other girl been in Misty's place at the start they'd think differently.
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>>26802290
No. Are you?
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>>26802281
>The funny thing is that had /padt/ existed back then, those hints would very probably have been taken as way more significant than they are now.
The funny thing is you sound pretty retarded there.
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Why is she so sexy?
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>>26802249
>I doubt she would keep this with her all these years if she wasn't truly in love
A crush could easily maintain this. Hell, it was probably packed away somewhere until she saw him on the tower.
The handkerchief thing is a really common anime trope anyways.

>that's the reason why she follows him since the beginning.
No, she follows him because of her crush.

>>26802268
That's possible, but changing MCs between seasons could have been a thing too.

>>26802277
Game Freak, the animation crew, etc.
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>>26802281
This sounds like Scott. If you're not Scott, take that to heart.
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>>26802303
>These threads analyse every second of the Serena moments but pretend the Misty ones didn't happen at all.
More like there weren't many Misty ones in the first place and a good chunk were written in by the dub. Also the fact that it wasn't focused on.
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Fun fact: Its been almost 14 years since Misty was written off the anime.

Time really does fly.
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I like both girls
Sisters in law.
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>>26802333
Fun fact: Kill yourself Scott.
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>>26802333
Fun fact: Fuck off, Scott
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>>26802246
>>26802259
LMAOOO GAME FREAK THINK THEY SLICK
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>>26802295
This is a really grasping comparison.
Yes, the conversation is of a similar theme, but that's it.
Not to mention the fact that Hinata grows a ton as a character from that point compared to Serena's bare minimal (if even that) growth by the time this happens.
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>>26802335
Okay, Milfi
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>>26802335
I like how this artists always makes sure to give May bigger boobs than Dawn and Serena.
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>>26802313
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>>26802348
Serena when she did it was being introduced as a character while when Hinata did it she had started getting some character development. It's not grasping at all.
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>>26802303
This. There were far less moments because Serena's character is centered around her crush on Ash and Misty's wasn't, but there were some and they were pretty fun. Pretending it was entirely 4kids' fault is idiotic and highly suggests never having watched subbed OS, even subbed.
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>>26802362
Fuck off shitposter this is why i hate summer
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>>26802362
I got an extra 'subbed' in there but it probably won't hurt to insist.
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>>26802362
You do realize only a fifth of OS is subbed at all, right?
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>>26802348
The whole Hinata development happened a lot before that moment while when Serena did it she was being introduced.
The theme is similar and at the same time has both protags get their shit together. In Pokemon you even have another character mentioning this.
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>>26802313
Because she didn't got BLACKED yet.
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>>26802362
>Serena's character is centered around her crush on Ash
You know thats not true.
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>>26802362
Johto was practically devoid of shipping till Misty's last episode. Most of Pokeshipping happened in Orange Islands.
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>>26802372
Maturity at its finest. There's irony in there somewhere, but I'll let you try and find it.
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>>26802362
>There were far less moments because Serena's character is centered around her crush on Ash and Misty's wasn't, but there were some and they were pretty fun.
There weren't that many all around and the most comes from OI which had less in general than what May/Drew had. That was also where it got effectively dropped.
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>>26802361
>>26802383
A very big difference is that Hinata was already showing growth as a result of Naruto compared to Serena's "Hey, it'll be okay. By the way, do you remember me?"
There's also the fact that the first situation was one that any of the other characters could have handled. Alexa would have been a perfect fit for this because she's actually known him for a time.
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>>26802394
This is sarcasm, right? Please say yes.
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>>26802257
Only is sad for people who is scared of lose, but is part of life, and this anime teach us about this in various occasions.
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>>26802416
Alexa mentions it because she couldn't have handled it and what exactly could have Bonnie and Clemont have done when even Ash's own Pokemon were having doubts and they're usually the ones to handle it with him.
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>>26802257
You still sound pretty bothered about what happened at the last gym.
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>>26802439
It's not "usually". It's always been the Pokemon.
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>>26802429
if thats the case everytime you see Serena protagonism or Serena important moment would be full of blushes and ashs and hearts and love but no
When she challenged her mom it was Serena's moment, not Serena and ash moment. When she failed her first performance and cut her hair, it was her moment, not her and ash's moment. When all of yashio shit happened and ash advice her to do the right thing or whatever, it was her moment, not their moment.
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>>26802467
You know a lot of said moments you listed all involve Ash in one way or another, right?
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Serena posters are delusional. Just shitup and enjoy the battles. Thats what the show is about not fuckin shipping. Dawn probably had an even bigger chance of staying with ash.
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>>26802467
>if thats the case everytime you see Serena protagonism or Serena important moment would be full of blushes and ashs and hearts and love
What you're saying is right, Serena got her own plot moments, but Ash and her share their moments together too.
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>>26802492
so the minimum ash presence means serena is all around about being ash's bitch
ok
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>>26802444
>You still sound pretty bothered about the friendzoning fistbump

But anon-kun, that makes no sense at all.
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This is how everyone views serena posters. They really are that cringey.
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>>26802507
>he thinks it was friendzoning
Mericans everyone.
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>>26802511
Ponies in this board are not allowed.
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>>26802522
>mexicans
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>>26802499
Serena posters really are insecure.
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>>26802507
>friendzoning fistbump
>friendzoning
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Adamant are we going to be caught up before the break ends?
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>>26802537
Don't count on it kid
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>>26802467
>if thats the case everytime you see Serena protagonism or Serena important moment would be full of blushes and ashs and hearts and love but no

but yes

And like >>26802492 says all your other examples involve Ash in some way

There is no way you're unironically not seeing this. I suspect tomfoolery.
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>>26802553
Dude, no one is paying attention to you. Just stop
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>>26802503
The whole Serena and her mom thing had her following what Ash's been saying and a motivation, Ash giving her advice was her taking Ash's words to heart and the haircut scene was her's but then they put it about Ash as well with her change.

I didn't say it was about her being Ash's but your argument isn't exactly free of Ash. It's also wrong to say that it's only about Ash.
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>>26802575
Can you stop righting so much? Its hard to follow. Just paraphrase
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>>26802572
Satoshi had a hard life..
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>>26802599
>not posting Satoshi while writing that
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>>26802574
>>26802591
>>26802600
>>26802613
How about you knock it off with the dump?
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>>26802622
?
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Look what you did, pearlfags
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>>26801096
well, gengar is pretty quality in the OP's poster as well
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>>26801107
MANLY MEN DOING ACTION SHIT
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>>26802648
>>26802681

>>26802622
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>>26802679
That artist's art always looks weird.
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>>26802688
?
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>>26802599
Five regions of going through shit and people shitting on him does that to someone.
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Ash I...
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Woololololololo
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>>26802707
That's a weird way of spelling Drew.
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>>26802574
>>26802591
>>26802600
>>26802613
>>26802648
>>26802681
>>26802695
>>26802699
>>26802733
So are we really getting a nigger picdumping now falseflagging as an amourfag?
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>>26802716
Get back in the bag Squishy

It's garbage out here
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Serenafags are so pathetic.
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>>26802762
nothing new
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>>26802762
So this is what you're going with today?
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>>26802762
>>26802774
t. shitposter shitposting as always.
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>>26802755
>now
You're saying this as if it's the first time that's happened.
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>>26802789
You're such a kid
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>>26802795
t. serenafag that thinks hating serena = shitposting
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stale pls, stop it
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>>26802802
I meant now as in right now, not that it's new.
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Posting serena should be banned.
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>>26802824
this
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>>26802808
>hating a fictional character
Just pathetic.
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>>26802795
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>>26802833
>loving and shipping a fictional character
Just pathetic.
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>>26802824
>>26802826
yeah we should post misty or dawn
oh wait
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>>26802824
Posting pokegirls should be banned
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>>26802824
And Dawn, May, Selene, etc
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I just find Serena boring as fuck but I don't hate her.
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Stop posting Serenas!
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Where's Serena's father? Did she die in the war?
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>>26802786
>>26802789
>>26802803
>>26802808
>>26802824
>>26802826
>>26802835
>>26802836
>>26802838
Go be sudaca chum master somewhere else.
Go be Sudaca somewhere else.
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reminder
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thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQqHx5LnfiI
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>>26802856
*he*
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>>26802847
>not liking boring and safe
Perfect waifu for generic shounen hero ash ketchum
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>>26802849
ok sorry this is the last one i promise
i have to study anyways
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>286 replies
>44 posters
>10 days 11 hours 41 minutes until next episode
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>>26802786
Cute
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>>26802899
We'll be alright.
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>>26802919
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I want to marry shirt hair Satoshi!
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>>26802899
>10 days 11 hours 41 minutes until next episode
Thanks for depressed me, i wasn't aware of all the time we still need to wait for next episode until now.
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>>26802931
You do know a new dubbed episode just came out.
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>>26802929
Serena pls.
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>>26802944
But I'm Mizuki.
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>>26802847

At least she's the perfect complement for a shounen hero like Ash (yang/yin). You don't need a female action sidekick because it would be double yin (unbalanced relationship).

Besides, bantering and bickering make more harm than good in a harmonious relationship.
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>>26802896
Yes.
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>>26802942
>filler episode
>starring binacle
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>>26802960
go to bed, Selene
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>>26802965
Sweden
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Can someone translate this?
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>>26802965
Griezmann a qt.
I'd fuck that bottom twink's bottom to Madrid and back.
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>>26802965
Is this why she is aiming for da Jap Ben Afra?
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>>26802971
This episode is one of my favorites, Binacle face just made me laugh a lot.
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>>26803041
Is he mind-controlling the loli?
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>>26803051
Yes.
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Subs aren't even half way done.
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>>26802965
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>>26803117
Serena's number needs to be changed to 5.
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>>26803117
>no Grant
>no Olympia
>no Diantha
>no Ash
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>>26803136
>Ash
>FRENCH
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>>26802899
>10 days 11 hours 41 minutes until next episode
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>>26803140
Why is their team so shit?
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>>26803136
>>no Ash
look again
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>>26803159
subtle
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>>26803159
FOUND WALDO.
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>>26803140
>>
>>26802033
>qt companion girl never catches a grossmon like Grimer, Trubbish etc

Maybe during S/M.
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Tierno did nothing wrong.
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>>26803117
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>>26803224
You do know RM is a Spanish team?
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>>26802942
>new
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>>26803117
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>>26803241
Yes, and is a good one.
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>>26803241
Benzemon
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>>26803223
>>
NEW THREAD WHEN
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>>26803267
Ok, just checking.
>>
>all these people making incorrect assumptions about Serena's character

Serena may have had a small crush on Ash from what they did when they were younger, but her primary reason for leaving (as she states in XY53) was escaping Rhyhorn Racing. Ash’s was her convienent excuse.

There are several scenes where you could easily say her admiration of him grew (there's tons of scenes where her worry or concern over him was given now focus than everyone else's). I would be comfortable in saying that her feelings for him are now mature and fully realized than they were before, especially considering how she acted in XY&Z29 (the rematch, forgive me if I've got the numbers off).

She welcomed him back and confidently accepted the fist bump instead of being flustered that he singled her out. That means something significant.
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>>26803223
Eureka is not for Ash. Delete this.
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>>26803224
>Shortrena has downwards spike of hair at the top

>>26803251
>Longrena does not

SHORTS A FAKE

SHE JUMPED LONGRENA AND REPLACED HER
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Alan did nothing wrong!
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>>26803291
ok
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>>26803321
<
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>>26803335
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ENOUGH
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>>26803351
Reminds me of School Days
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>>26803351
Disgusting
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>>26803366
It is from School Days, silly
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>>26803351
He deserved it.
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>>26803351
Enough with you.
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>>26803435
At least she's a good sport about it.
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>>26803308
>SHORTS A FAKE

SHE JUMPED LONGRENA AND REPLACED HER
This. Short hair Serena feels like an imposter, not only does she have short hair, it feels like she isn't Serena at all.
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>>26803444
Without the text, it would look like she's hitting on Serena.
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>>26803444
Do we even know what department she refers to?
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>>26803453
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>>26803351
If I close my eyes I can still hear the sound of Kotonoha's knife cutting through Sekai's stomach to her womb.
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>>26803453
Shortrena jumped Longrena while Longrena was doing the haircut. That's how not many can tell.

She's a cute imposter though.
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>>26803454
>yfw Mirror World Millefeui aggressively pursues Serena instead of Ash

>>26803458
>Serena blushing
>Millefeui being smug

It's pretty obvious what she's referring to anon.
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>>26803453
>77 in charge of being right
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>>26803458
The department she lost out on.
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>>26803488
Mirror millefeui would be the beta that Serena bullies but ends up giving her the upper hand for da Ash all the time.
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>>26803550
>Beta Millefeui in the mirror world.
Wow i didn't know i wanted this until now.
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>>26803458
The "P○n○s in vag○○○" department.
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>>26803574
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>>26803454
She's angling for that threesome
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>>26803550
>implying Mirror Millefeui isn't a yandere that scares Mirror Ash
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>>26803690
new thred
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http://itest.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/anime4vip/1463730630/l50

According to some 2ch anons, not only the Goodra episode didn't get into top 10, but also wasn't able to get viewers (viewership measurement impossible). The same thing happened with Naruto that week. If said anons are saying the truth, then it would be the first time Pokemon didn't manage to grab viewers since its debut.
>>
>>26803709
Why the fuck do you even need a new thread right now?
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>>26803709
>new thread
>image limit isn't hit
>not even page 9
>>>/out/
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>>26803738
Pokemon has fallen out of the top 10 in Japan quite a bit in the last couple of months. Its not that unusual anymore.
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>>26803851
It's still gotten to top 10 ratings not too long ago actually.

Then again all the other shows have also had their drop in ratings.
>>
>>26803738
S&M will be worse..
>>
>>26803738
>viewership measurement impossible
It means there wasn't enough viewship meaning it was below the lowest one, not that it didn't get any viewers Scott.
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>>26803869
Even so, it was always at the bottom of the top 10 having ratings in only the 3.1-3.2 range.

However I imagine the league eps might increase ratings. If Japan doesn't tune in for the league then like...what the hell are they watching for?
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>>26803894
It was mid to bottom. It fluctuated.
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>>26803894
Jap kids are too busy with their tablets to pay attention to the old tv.

Maybe that's why S&M will be casualized to appeal to mobile users.
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>>26803913
I just want this to prove Ash's character/story can be wrapped up and they can give him an ending. The anime has gone on for 20 years, there's obviously no reason Ash himself has to still be the star.

Just give some random slightly altered Pikachu to a next main character as their second pokemon after their starter or something. Give it fluffy hair or whatever like that Rocker's Pikachu.
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>>26803924
There's no reason for him to leave, either.
>>
>yfw no one watches this show
>based director and the rest of the staff will probably get fired
>0% chance for Serena going to Alola
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>>26803946
But if Ash's character is doing nothing for the show anymore, what difference is it to the writers now? It'd really be no different than all the female companions who came and went.

No matter how popular May and Dawn were at the time they were still axed. So it really doesn't matter who the main characters are anymore.
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>>26803955
They can save the show only if they keep Serena.
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>>26803955
>>yfw no one watches this show
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>>26803871
SM will be a return in form for the anime.

>Stop making Ash so serious
>Make girl a competent moe blob
>Shipping hints sparkled throughout
>Make the rival for Ash start from the beginning like Ash.
>Make the girl be like Ash little sister
>Third wheel Clemont 2.0
>Piss off autistic game fags and their headcanon ships
>Have a recurring anime only baddie other than tr
>More extravagant filler like mirror world or Serena cosplaying Ash
>Have both girl and Ash crossdress for no reason
>Have a cooking competition where Ash and the girl participate or cooking class episode
>Make a 3 part action episode
>Give Ash a great team
>Give Ash capris ffs

All the key points, make the anime great again.
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>>26803964
All Ash has to do is catch Pokemon and save the day now and then. He'll never be done.
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>>26804002
That all sounds like shit. BW/OS shit to be exact.
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>>26803964
No, it wouldn't. For better of for worse, he, along with Pikachu, is the face for the anime. If a new character were to be introduced as the face of the main series, you bet your ass they would've promoted him by now.
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>>26804002
>more Ash

Dropped.
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>>26804022
They don't start promotion for a new series till the very end of it.
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>>26803893

In other episodes, Pokemon was kicked out of top 10, yet it had its viewership measurable (just like the dance episode).

Those ching chong anons from 2ch also said pokemon audience was "out of range/service" (kengai). So, it's easy to assume both Pokemon and Naruto got zero percent of sharing.

Other anon posted the ratings for other channels for that timeslot, and apparently, both NHK and NTV got shows with sharings above 13%.

It would be an isolated circunstance after all. Pokemon will have its vievership measurable for the circus episode, despite not entering into top 10.
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>>26803871
SM the new BW, disgusting
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>>26804022
It's really Pikachu and for the record they don't actually start promoting anime face ridiculously early. I mean if you want a recent example Boruto didn't get promotion until like the last month of Naruto.
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>>26804002
It's like you took the worst ideas you could come up with to make another BW.
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The first DP anime promotion was Dawn herself with Dialga/Palkia behind her. Some people thought she would be the new lead of her own series because Ash wasn't shown on the poster at all.
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>>26804002
>game fags
How the fuck is this even a term? The games are better by default.
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>>26804002
>Lunafags are this delusional
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>>26804002
>All the key points, make the anime shit again.
ftfy
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>>26804042
They mean they weren't able to calculate the rating by going off the ratings of the shows other channels were airing at the same time because not all those shows ranked either, you retarded shit.
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>>26804179
>>>/trash/tumblr/
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>yfw people like luna just because she's gonna replace Serena
your envy makes her famous
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>>26804248
I like her more than game Serena too, though.
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Why is the thread is so slow right now?
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is this ash?
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>>26804276
It's better that way. People talk when they do otherwise you get shitposters going at it. Nothing new right now also.
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>>26804285
Holy shit, you found Ash's dad, finally.
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>>26804248
>just because she's gonna
>she's gonna
>gonna
Totally not trying to shitpost or anything.
>>
>>26804276
Heavy shitposting the last 5 hours.
>>
>>26804285
where
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>>26804316

Ash's dad is Goku, nigga
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>>26804316
Just in time for father's day

What did you guys do for your fathers?
>>
>>26804434
I completely forgot it was Father's Day.
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>>26804434
>What did you guys do for your fathers?
call him
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>>26804338
>Ash knowing what a bride or marriage is if Goku was his father
>>
Being Yayakoma is suffering.
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>>26804480
Thankfully it's not a Yayamoka much longer.
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Is this the best moment on the entire pokemon series?
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>>26804521
Dumb frogposter.
>>
>>26804503
I'm looking forward to it.
Even if the song that plays is pretty poor for such a kick ass moment.
>>
>>26804521
It led to her rudely butting into Serena and Millefeui's moment later than episode and making it about her.
So no. Fuck that shit.
>>
Oh hey, Serena exists and actually does something.
Also, anime logic and all, but I'm fairly sure it isn't that easy to float straight with a 20 pound weight on one shoulder.
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>tfw the movie is nearly here

it feels like just yesterday we were watching the Zygarde teaser trailer
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>>26804480
It was karma for being a little shit in the beginning.
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>>26804578
nobody cares about the movie
>>
Is the Celebi AG episode with Solana subbed at all
>>
>>26804585
>nobody cares about the movie
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>>26804585
>>
>>26804593
>>26804595
its true, compared to last year
>>
>>26804521
She looks like a grandma
>>
>>26804575
As easy as Ash chucking a 500+ lbs. log.
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>>26804585
>>26804603
you're just saying that because you're not getting a new Shoko QT this year
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>>26804575
>after that episode Serena flying became a meme that was posted nearly every thread for weeks in multiple situations
I want to return to the golden age of /padt/ back when things were fun, discussions were optimistic about the future, and the creativity was used for enjoyment.

I miss it.
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>>26804575
Good times.
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>>26804603
>implying
>>
This is the face of someone about to dish out an ass whipping.
Literally a baptism in fire.
>>
>>26804587
Nope. Only the very beginning and very end of AG is subbed.
>>
>>26804625
Serenaposting spiralled out of hand and people responded. It can't be helped.
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>>26804625
But we're still at that point when the shitposters aren't flooding the thread, anon.
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>>26804640
Save your screencaps to .png, friendo.
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>>26804645
No it was you fucking everything up.
>>
>>26804672
Oh of course, Serenaposters can do no harm, even when they start the shitpost train 99.9% of the time.
>>
enough about Luna, I want to know about the male companion. I hope it's not that faggot Hau
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>>26804694
you know it's gonna be Hau

btw shit RIP Anton Yelchin m80s this year is taking everyone down with a vengeance
>>
>>26804694
I'll drop the anime if he appears for more than one ep.
>>
>>26804705
>you know it's gonna be Hau
I want to punch him. I want a badboy as companion
>>
>>26804705
He looks way too much like Shota to not make his anime appearance look awkward.
>>
>>26804715
Alain pls go
>>
>>26804725
Alan is not a badboy, he is just a chu2
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue6Zx3PuT_U

fucking blueberry
>>
>>26804722
>Ash: You remind me of someone...
and then is never broguht back again
>>
>>26804692
No m8, it's you.
>>
If Serena was more like this, she'd actually be an interesting character

>>26804662
For you anon, even if I can't tell the difference.
>>
>>26804737
That's the cutest Meowth since Pokemon Smash
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>>26804757
>>26804692
>>26804672
>>26804645
are you two gonna fuck or what
>>
>>26804705
Who is Anton?
>>
>>26804757
Sure.
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>>26804767
Who is cuter, /padt/?
>>
>>26804780
>>
>>26804805
He died like the Green Goblin, fucking kek.
>>
>>26804434
Nothing, because he's been dead since early August last year.

That and I hadn't seen him in years
prior anyway.
>>
>>26804765
Just makes the images slightly clearer.
>>
>>26804765
Serena only works like that because Ash is a crybaby in the mirror world.
>>
>>26804840
I'm sorry, anon
>>
>>26804865
I'm like half blind so I can't tell.

>>26804870
She doesn't have to be it to that degree, but a blend would make for a way more interesting character.
>>
>>26804765
>yet another tsundere character
>interesting

the reason why that Serena works is because she bounces off from beta-Ash
>>
>>26804804
http://www.route207.net/blog_tv/archives/1298

...strange
>>
>>26804890
Again, it's because of mirror Ash.
>>
>>26804897
>not liking Seyana
Anon pls
>>
>>26804804
>Meowth would have won the elections if he looked like this

>>26804897
Seyana wasn't actually tsundere, just a giant bully.
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>>26804542
>Promise both that she will win the Tripokalon
>Lose
>Promise his mom that he will win the Kalos League
>Lose
They are made for each other, aren't they?
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>>26804929
Now he looks like this instead
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>>26804897
>Seyana
>tsundere
She never denied liking crybaby Ash, she just liked to bully him.
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>>26804897
>Tsundere

>>26804911
Again, it can be a blend.
Even just giving her the same accent would have been more interesting than wallflower, soft-spoken "muh satoshi" Serena.
I get it, it's cute, but it's completely uninteresting.
Corni had personality and was interesting while also being cute.
Eureka has a degree of personality and is adorable.
Serena is just nice looking with no real substance. I'm not trolling or anything when I say I forget she's even around half the time because she doesn't do anything.
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>>26804944
Please.
>>
Guys, I just realized we've made it to the Pokemon League and we've forgotten something important.

Which battle is going to do it, Ash VS Shota or Ash VS Shota? Which battle is going to play Volt?
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>>26804982
The accent only really works because mirror Serena is rough, it wouldn't work with regular Serena who isn't. And again, it really only works because of mirror Ash.
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>>26804998
Neither. It will be Ash VS Shota.
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>>26804982
Wait another couple episodes, anon. Her development starts during the camp arc.
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>>26804944
>implying Serena didn't actually win the tripokalon and it was why she even got to face Elle
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>>26804961
Granted, she asked real world Serena to take care of her Satoshi. She wouldn't have said that had she not liked to travel with her Mirror world counterpart.
But yeah, she was more Iris-tier than tsundere.
>>
>>26805031
Seyana isn't THAT bad.
>>
>>26804923
I like her, but I like her because she has Ash to bounce off with
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>>26805031
Whoa hol up nigga Seyana ain't even remotely on Iris level
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>>26805020
Fucking kill me, I meant VS Alan for the second one.

Boy am I embarrassed.
>>
>>26805063
Volt for Shota
XYZ for Alan
>>
>>
>>26805015
Then obviously her personality needs a facelift too.
A more rough spoken, but genki Serena would be pretty alright.

>>26805027
I hope so.
I don't care about the shipping, but Serena feels entirely unfitting in the show so far and at 37 episodes in, it kind of jades my feelings towards her as a whole.
>>
Anyone will stop watch the show after XY?
>>
New bred:
>>26805100
>>26805100
>>26805100
>>
Iris a qt.
>>
>>26805099
Lots of people felt the same at that time, anon. The people that like her today are many many episodes ahead of you.
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>>26805099
That'd make her more generic than what you already say she supposedly is.
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