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Perfection in 3D Edition
>DLC 4 included:
- 2 New Playable Characters: Merged Zamasu and SSGSS Vegito
- 3 New Parallel Quests
- A New storyline based on DBS Future Trunks Arc
- Two new costumes: SSJ4 Goku, Resistance Outfit
- New accessory: SSJ4 Goku wig and tail
- 4 New Moves: Holy Wrath, Divinity Unleashed, Blades of Judgement, Divine Wrath

>Free update included:
- 4 New Costumes: Trendy Bikini, Great Ape Suit, Golden Ape Suit, Golden Turtle Hermit Gi
- 4 New Accessories: Saiyan tail buttplug, Great Ape Wig and Tail, Golden Ape Wig and Tail, Golden Scouter
- 4 New Moves: Savage Strike, Spirit Stab, Sword of Hope, Burning Strike
- DBS accurate variants of SSB Goku, Vegeta, Kid Trunks and Future Trunks
>Helpful Xenoverse 2 Data/Links
http://pastebin.com/bRGkSuSh
>1.06 patchnotes
https://pastebin.com/dxznyLQV
>1.07 patchnotes
https://pastebin.com/RxfR2k2k

>Xenoverse 2 Mods
http://pastebin.com/pDwFPrB3

>No Hud Mod (for beautiful screenshots)
https://mega.nz/#!ccICVaaB!8hy08k-uVZnn-8656WmjspN72wwaJITF6mo_ZgvMYc8

>Xenoverse 2 changes
http://pastebin.com/uDAS7TD9

>new 2D 3vs3 fighter by ARCSYS announced
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B858vev8ML4NN2dDOElTNjZMdnM/view

>Community
PC: https://steamcommunity.com/groups/vfightersXenoverse
PS4: Search "Dragon Ball General"
XBone: https://account.xbox.com/en-GB/clubs/profile?clubid=3379873991575336
/dbg/ players: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElJpKAB8F9xw-4oqsOuorggP_Hngdvxm7aduvpY1DIg
/dbg/ discord: https://discord.gg/wtSsdgv

>HOW TO FIND YOUR XENOVERSE 2 SAVE ON STEAM Perfect guide:
steam > userdata > [your steam id] > 323470 > remote > DBXV2
DBXV2.sav should be there, which is your savefile
If you wish to delete it to try reimporting or for other reasons, disable steamcloud on both xenoverse 1 and 2 first.

>Xenoverse Booru: Upload all Drawfaggotry here
http://xenoverse.booru.org/

LAST TIME ON /dbg/: >>187191895
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i thought we were dead
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>>187353063
I used the Dragon Balls to revive us
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>we'll die again
this is it baby, hold me
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I got careless and assumed we'd be on page 10 for a while like last time!
Next time I won't fail you!
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Remember to be a NemeCAN, not a NemeCAN'T.
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>>187354995
I like the usage of manga colors for the fleshy bits
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>>187354995
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>>187355517
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Are friezafags good?
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>>187355713
Remove fridge scum
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Reminder to fuck naked retarded monkey on the bush
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>>187356552
I bet he has a big floppy dick
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Why is Android Bukha 76 waering diaper?
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Sup guys. How goes the grind? Almost got all the Majin skills I need for my Buufu. Just need III Rain.
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>Guardian Angel back at it again at dairy queen
>now he learned that fake death is the best move in the game
>'cept when it ain't and he gets broke for it

Just further proof that nameks are scum.
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How does this raid work? My score is still about 15000 since three missions ago and doesnt go up
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>>187356920
He is literally naked.
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>>187359513
Retractable dicks exist
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>>187359864
There is no slit. No cloaca. He pees from the sides of his head.
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>>187360108
They could just be very subtle
or they're in his head
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>>187360170
Don't be a dickhead.
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>>187360219
You win this time, but I'll be back
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Poor sod kept dying in the middle of our fight.
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>>187361040
God bless this tournament
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Anyone want to help me on Expert Mission 9?
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Quick you only have 1HP left, what do you do?

If you chose "charge my ki" then congrats you're now dead.
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>>187362881
>tfw had someone do that exact same thing
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>>187362881
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Even when Pblocked fake death is damage immune.
Or at least punch immune. Maybe grabs work.
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>>187363908
Truly the perfect lifeform
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there are people who are in this community who dont play the game any more. they should stop talking about how no one likes their nonexistent characters and leave.
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>>187362881
alright fucking kek.
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>>187367135
Then leave
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>>187358686
I was about to tell that one guy that Innocence Breath was fine, but then the thread died.

So uh I'll do it right now, Innocence Breath is fine. It hits multiple times on a break for nice damage, and nobody expects it to hit behind you.
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>>187368667
I have (and I worked my ass off grinding these)
Angry Hit
Vanishing Ball
Majin Kamehameha
Max Charge
Super Vanishing Ball
Assault Rain
Purification
Angry Shout
My cutie had to get a ton of these Dragon Balls to get Angry Shout.
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>>187368667
Once you learn the sweet spot on Innocence Breath, hitting it is pretty easy.
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>>187362616
I'm hella late, but if you need help with anything still I'm available.

>>187368923
Some of those are extremely good. That's a pretty good moveset.

Though for Seino, shouldn't you have something closer to Seino's actual moveset?
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>>187369807
I have themes for each preset outfit. For my Buu Gi outfit I have a pure Majin set. I also forgot what Moves Seino had so I went with Piccolo esque moves.
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>>187369919
Ah, gotcha. Sadly I don't think she's still alive on any of my characters, so the most I can help with is her supers. Just going with Piccolo moves is perfect.
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>>187369807
You really spiked that volleyball
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>>187370227
This is her in her first Buu Gii
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>>187371583
And now her current at level 26.
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Name my band, /dbg/.

>>187374759
Oh man, I'm glad you got that one. I messed up and didn't save it.
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>>187375363
Me too, it had me reeling for a good minute- Great Ape Baby was fun even after he stopped letting us fuck with him
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1000 HP doesn't seem like that much.
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>>187379149
isn't this basically vados' ult?
sasuga dimpsu
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>>187379241
It's about as close to Vados' ult as Galick Gun is to Kamehameha.
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Go on.
Sperg about it.
You know you want to.
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>>187379275
well vegeta is shit and a jobber, that would explain a lot
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discord is cancer
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>>187379241
It's really not all that much like Vados' ult, the only similarity is "it's an orb that explodes eventually", just about everything else is different.

>>187375363 and this one are pretty good examples of actual re-used stuff though.
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>>187379437
About what?
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>>187379473
This but only because it's spyware
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>>187380127
Why does she have an army of Chronoa's?
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>>187380127
Is she wearing a God of Destruction scouter?

Do they even need scouters?
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yea well thats fine, clashes aren't cool anyway.
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>>187380692
Why don't you, nerd?

>>187380715
It looks cool, don't question it.
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Find the monkey
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>>187382246
I just see a buttplug
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>>187386554
It's a real tail! If it wasn't it wouldn't move like it does!
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>>187386719
There's plenty buttplugs that do that.
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>>187386876
If it is then why is it so high on the back? Obviously above the butt
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>>187386964
Dunno, maybe you're just a freak of nature with a heightened anus.
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>>187387105
Maybe it jut has nothing to do with a butt and it's actually just a tail
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>>187387156
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>>187387105
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>>187386876
But look at the difference of it and a real tail
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>>187382246
I want to fuck the retarded naked monkey in the bush
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why did they make the new dbz a side schroler? who plays that trash
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>>187389750
(You)
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>>187389529
This monkey isn't retarded or naked, she's obviously wearing clothes and hanging out with a cool as heck fridge
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>>187390418
He can be cool, but Freeza's brother is Cooler
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>>187390589
Now what's Cooler than being cool?
(King Cold!) I can't hear ya
I say what's cooler than being cool?
(King Cold!)
Alright, alright, alright, alright
Alright, alright, alright, alright
Alright, alright, alright, alright
Alright, alright
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>>187390589
kys
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>they hate frogposting
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>>187391779
dumb frogposter
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>>187386964
that's still pretty high for a real tail
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>>187390418
cute!
is this pc?
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My mom is an office lady at Toei, so I got a Super spoiler:

Zen'o erases Universe 7.
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>>187393157
It's too hot today. Are you okay there, old man? Had a heatstroke?
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>>187393157

>>187393381
Fuck off thot
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>>187393157
Are they still at 35 minutes left?
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>>187393543
34. We have at least 29 episodes to go if all left are 1 minute each, though when five remain Freeza will go all FIVE MINUTES on us and we will have 12 more episodes
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>>187393715
>12 Frieza episodes
I can live with that, if only he gets to be a bit more than "look at me I'm so evil bleblebleh"
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>>187393715
It could be short circuited if, say, a God of Destruction from one of the four exempt universes destroys the ring to DQ the remaining universes instantly.
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>>187394045
Wouldn't he get erased by Zen-Oh instead of the universes then though.
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It's criminal that this thread has no fighterz:

>Reveal trailer (E3 2017)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBI0MU73nlc

>Trunks reveal trailer (EVO 2017)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdJcJ_zjB5E

>Piccolo, Krillin and Androids trailer (Gamescom 2017)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-3oNm_O1Rc

>SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcXF-Ltv2D8

>EVO tourny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7ZCo-YfZ3g

>Gamescom tourny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5GBBotWBcc

>Closed beta signup (PS4 and XB1 only)
https://www.bandainamcoent.com/news/dragon-ball-fighterz-closed-beta-application

>Confirmed chars
SSJ Goku
SSJ Vegeta
Teen Gohan
Final Form Freiza
Perfect Cell
Majin Buu
Trunks
Piccolo
Krillin
Android 16
Android 18 + 17 assist
SSB Goku
SSB Vegeta
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>>187394372
Oh, yeah, he'd probably get mad at anyone interfering with his fun.
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>>187394807
Krillin better be S tier.
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>>187394807
No Tao Pai Pai no buy
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>>187394807
No Asura no buy
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>>187394807
No Cooler no buy
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>>187394807
No Turles no buy
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>>187394807
No Tien, no buy.
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>>187395003
he is S tier
only so far confirmed SS tier characters are SS Goku and Vegeta

only characters with at least single SS stat so far are SS2 Gohan, Blue Goku and Vegeta
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>>187395003
It's a serious fighter, so they'll obv try to make all the chars viable. Though apparently Krillin has lower dmg than most other chars, but a lot of gimmicks.
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>>187394807
>2D button mashing garbage
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>>187396213
>Stop liking what I don't like
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>>187396213
You can button mash in a serious 2D fighter if you want (well, it uses 3D models on a 2D plane). You'll get fucking rekt, but you can do it.

Alternatively, you could try gitting gud.
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>>187395997
I just want him to not be a joke in the game for once.
He's too awesome for this treatment.
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>>187397192
You can also button mash in a 3D arena fighter with waifu simulator elements!
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>>187397536
>waifu simulator
My buufus are like my daughters.
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>>187397884
Someone's daughter is someone's waifu
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>>187397536
>implying you can button mash in xv2

I mean nothing's stopping you from trying but you're not gonna make much progress. Probably won't even get past the tutorial.
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>>187398098
Too bad, I'm too shit at the game to make webms or play with anyone ITT so they're safe.
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>>187398192
Maybe you'd stop being shit if you'd play with people.
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>>187398294
He plays alright. If you know what I mean
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>>187398294
I tried but I'm still garbage.
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>>187398672
Try more. You don't just improve in a single fight, you ain't Hit, bitch.
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>>187398672
I'm sure we could mentor you or something.
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>>187398808
If they don't want to put effort in, why bother? Let them suffer alone.
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>>187399291
Maybe they just need some positive reinforcement. A push in the right direction.
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>>187399456
I'll give em a push.
Off a cliff.
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>>187399609
Same.
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>>187399701
Do not push people off cliffs- that's horribly rude
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>>187399851
Unless it's Aubah, then it's a favour to the world.
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>>187400019
Precisely.
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>>187399701
small yet saggy tits.
awful.
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>>187399701
Wait... that's it! Fuck the dumb blonde while Aubah is forced to watch chained
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>>187400531
>implying Aubah would give a shit when Turles exists
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>>187399851
stupid apes
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>>187401828
no u
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>>187400819
>the general will die before i get to die fapping to aubah gangbanged by her precious crusher corps
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>>187401828
I wanna fuck her through the tights
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>>187402202
>not killing them
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>>187400171
Lucky for you those boobs aren't canon.
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>>187402782
Whe-Where did she hide that box?
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>>187402912
In her phat ass
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>>187402912
places
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>>187402068
>no u
>posts a webm of dumb monkeys
checkmate

I already posted all my raid webms so here's some XV1 goodnessfrom when your cac actually did stuff
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>>187401828
Spats confirmed for racist
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>>187403559
This only solidifies them as best waifu. How can Aubah even compete?
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>>187403454
Yeah well you're a dumb half-monkey!
>making me want to re-reinstall XV1
>tfw more liable to reinstall XV1 on the new PC instead of XV2
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>>187403647
She's not even racist against the right race.
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>>187403670
Fucking slut with asphyxiation fetishes. No wonder she is so dumb
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>>187403670
Yeah, the only half that really matters!
Do it, it's still fun even if the gameplay is a massie step down from XV2

>>187403559
>>187403647
>>187403719
I'm not racist, i'm just riling her up so she can capitalise on those back tingles!
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>>187404108
So you're not only racist, you're a liar?
Terrible. Shame on you.
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>>187395929
This is the first one I think might have an actual chance of being in.
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>>187403670
it's actually worth another run through after so much xv2, i found it quite fun even with the downgrades in things.
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>>187403647
>aubah
>competing with anyone
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STOP MOCKING MEEEE
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>>187380208
Whatever you wanna get off your chest man. Lay some truth down on us. Like Namekians are OP, or Marius is a cunt.
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>>187406656
Oh my gooood. Gohan wishes he had a sword like that. It's even bigger than Zamasu's
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>>187406656
Compensating for something there Trunks? Daddy won't love you just because you have a big one.
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>>187406915
but anon
Piccolo sword > kai sword > friendship sword
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Hump
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>>187379465
Vegeta is pretty much the character who kept things interesting in dbz post-frieza saga
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I ended up messing around so much I lost the fight.
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>>187412589
I saw that Caulifla rarw in the lobby!
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somehow we ended up fighting on XV1
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>>187413461
Beat her up for me!
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>>187414212
I don't have much tourney stuff but i enjoy seein people postin it
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>>187415981
It's fun. Too bad it's almost over.
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>>187406723
I'm getting real tired of HuMs. I'm tempted to make my own to deal with these shitters.
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>>187415981
At least your sword landed
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>>187417113
Also switched CaC's after that match and ran into him a bit later. He couldn't really appreciate losing to me second time.
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>>187417312
Those sweet, sweet DC's
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>>187417312
How do you get super black kamehameha?
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>>187416928
Gosh, Mary, learn to handle a blade! You'll get someone hurt if you just swing it around wildly!

>>187417312
Well, that at least prevents him from losing the like one point he'd have lost.

I guess that's important to him.
>>
XV1 Champ was actually decent and not a joke character,
Why did the nerf him so bad?
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>>187417493
It's in the TP Store. If it's not there right now, try going offline and setting your date to a different weekend until it does show up.
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>>187417493
Its appears in the TP shop

>>187417496
Do they not lose points? i still got points from that so..
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>>187417640
He's pretty strong, just don't get hit.

>>187417698
Oh, really? Last I remember all those post-match disconnects before the points are shown don't give me any points, but maybe I'm just dumb.
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>>187417312
>>187417492
Apparently that was the same webm as earlier but named something else. How in the fuck.

>>187417496
And you need to learn to hit your actual targets!
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>>187417852
I was taking Super Kame's to the face with him, and it was like regular scaled damage, it wasnt an insta kill.
I want the champ un nerfed right this instant!
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>>187417892
I can hit who I want, you're not my mom!

>>187418134
Just don't get hit, weakling! Be a champ!
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ty for the fight leo! you did well
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Roshi was so good in this episode.
Android 18 was looking really nice in Dragon ball fighterz!!
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>>187417852
For it just is that i don't get point if they disconnect before the match ends.
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>>187418431
I see. My bad!
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>>187418595
Don't worry its not like points are important or anything.
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>>187419380
They really aren't, yet so many disconnect when they're about to lose a single point.
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What is the best Dragon Ball game available right now?

Also, will FighterZ be any good?
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>>187421507
>will FighterZ be any good
hopefully
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>>187421507
>what's the best dbz game available right now
What platforms ya got
>will FighterZ be good
Looks like it. Still waiting for Raditz and through some fucking divine magic, Baby Vegeta or a SSJ4 character
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>>187427027
Baby Vegeta gets techniques wrong. He calls Final Flash "Big Bang Attack." He a shit.

Raditz and Nappa tag team would be welcome though.
>>
>gohan using Kaioken SSB awakening in the tournament
>can hear him complaining when I kick his ass with Wolf Fang Fist

Hilarious.
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>>187427915
>nappa/raditz tag team
I really am disappointed we never got a special dealing with the three of them doing Frieza force shit
>>
I just started playing xenoverse 2. Are hybrid builds shit like in the first one?
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>>187432590
Nah, hybrids work just as good as any other this time around
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>>187432590
Nah they're very much viable, just use moves that you like and you'll do just fine.
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>>187432590
Nah. Like, if I'm not mistaken, putting 125 points in ki blast or strike, all the difference it does is around 11% damage. Meaning it doesn't matter much. Doing a hybrid build is viable is most races.
All races have potential unlock, so all of them can have a transformation that gives 15% bonus in damage. Say you have a Frieza Race CaC, the Turn Golden will give 30% solely in Ki damage. So you can see it does little difference.
Hell, my fridge wears a -5 in Strike QQ Bang and when I use shit like Aura Slide I barely feel the difference of him using it with Turn Golden to Potential Unleash and the damage is still great.
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>>187433607
>>187432742
>>187432670

okay thanks. I kinda hated the one trick ponies of the first one.
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The tourney was fun while it lasted, wouldn't mind if they did these more often.
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>>187434489
Normally when someone glitched like that against me the next second he would appear behind me, stamina break me and kill me like nothing happened.

I sincerely hope Dimps make better servers by XV3. I nearly unlocked the Quake of Fury in this tournament
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Not bad
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I really like the gold thingy on the glove
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>>187434814
I see, i didn't really have anything that bad happen to me.

>>187434891
The top is pretty good.
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we did it Reddit!
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I wish I got my dumb looking armor already
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>>187434891
Cummies for you
>>187435398
Cummies for you
>>187435618
Cummies for you
>>187435710
No cummies for you.
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The armor is ugly. As expected. Gloves are nice though.
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>>187435710
>>187435618
>>187435398
>>187434891
fuck off attention whores
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So, which one of my homos should I level? This world tournament stuff is getting hard. The only people doing major damage are my vegito and gogeta. Its like they have entire teams of potential invested dudes. I could awaken my gogeta, but I don't have any extra gogetas to open paths
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>>187437436
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>>187437721
Merged Zimzam and int Torankusu
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>>187437436
Rude
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>>187437436
How bout no?
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>>187427915
Raditz a shit.
Nappa on the other hand should never have died.
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>>187437790
Stop feeding the monkeys
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>>187439094
Please keep feeding the monkeys, all that running and jumping takes a lot of energy.
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>>187439094
That's a fairy though.
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>>187439094
They need food to grow fat asses, anon
>>
I had a crush on Bulma when I was a kid
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>>187440995
I had a crush on 18
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>>187440995
I never much liked any females from dragon ball. The first female character i even liked was Pan.
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>>187441618
Wait now that i think about it, not Pan, Videl.
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>>187441618
There are a lot of people who like Pan, I always thought it was related to peoples first exposure to the series since I remember GT commercials like crazy but never caring
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>>187437957
Cool. More questions.

1) how do I farm their events with my shit teams
2) after getting all those metals, I guess I just sit on them until I get a couple copies of zimmy and turanks?
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Only Good Pan is Neko Pan
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>>187441912
Funny i didn't even actually watch GT. Just a few episodes at the start.
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>>187441618
I remember masturbating to that one chick in lingerie in the first world championship in the Dragon Ball manga.
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Rate this bucket head
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>>187442086
canoner than gt
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>>187442376
Why the fuck would you make a afridge that looks like an astronaut monkey?
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>>187442567
I like characters with a face
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>>187442376
cute, but reminds me a bit of a recolored Laciem
needs more personalization to really stand out
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You get the choose 3 what-if characters from Heroes to put in FighterZ.

Who would you pick and what would their moveset be?
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>>187443431
Gine. Done.
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>>187443431
Dark Dragon Ball Majin Cyborg Tao Pai Pai
Broly and Kale EX Fusion
Farmer with 2 shotguns
>>
I'll hold him off, dont you worry!
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>>187444454
And this is where the zero ningen plan was born.
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>>187444796
no no, that comes later
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>>187444927
I love Satan's battle face. It truly conveys the champion of humanity.
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>>187443431
gine, champa and yamcha
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World Tournaments bring always bring the best fights https://youtu.be/yR_VZdWERyQ
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>>187438591
Raditz is the only Saiyan that shouldn't be genocided with the rest.
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>>187446138
we need at least one to put into a preservation zoo after all
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>>187445686
Shame you get none of them.
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>>187446784
Naw, you need at least 4-5 to maintain a stable population.
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>>187447354
>maintain a stable population.
no i just mean we keep the weakest one to laugh at until it dies of old age
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>>187447776
How selfish are you to deny the rest of the galaxy and their descendants the pleasure of laughing at a stupid monkey in a cage?
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>>187448008
there will always be a stupid monkey somewhere to laugh at, lets not get crazy here
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Hello my fellow humans!
Please forgive the state of my uniform, i just had a fight to the death with an extremely handsome alien trying to invade your worthle- i mean our beautiful planet.
Have a nice day.
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>>187449587
Your skin looks weird for a human. Is this the 'sunburn' they talk about so much?
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>>187449587
Quite the farmer's tan ya got there, buddy
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>>187449587
what's that thing moving around behind you?

Looks like a large snake
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>>187452842
That's Kunel. Don't be mean to her.
>>
mistakes were made
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>>187453841
You're lucky he didn't seem to understand the concept of dodging.
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>>187449587
nice, I like that!
much better without the default patroller clothes
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>>187453841
What was that attack he went crazy when used?
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>>187415981
>Spats fights randoms
>Doesn't fight you
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>>187454651
don't have to feel bad about bullying people they don't know
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>>187454651
Culsh only takes fights they know they can win.
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1.) When do you guys think Xenoverse 3 is dropping? Late 2018?

2.) What 5 features do you want most in it? New characters don't count as a feature.
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>>187454965
I want more fridge transformations, Bio-Android race, SSG, less dependence of stamina in combat (STAMINA IS THE FUCKING LIFELINE) and more damaged clothes.
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>>187441407
Same. I got actual heartache over the fact she wasn't real.
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>>187454965
They're giving it at least 6 months more than xv2 got, so 2018 to 2019 is a good guess
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>>187454189
Yeah he was really weak so the body change kind of bluescreened me for a sec.
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>>187454965
Yeah, I'd say September 2018 at the earliest.

1. Skip PQ cutscenes.
2. Unlock progress is saved across all characters.
3. Bubble emoticons in the hub, showing things like general emotions or what you want to do.
4. Complete color customization on outfits.
5. Remove nameks.
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>>187454625
the what?
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>>187455115
I don't know if I'm alone in this, but I really like the dependence on stamina. Makes the game feel kinda strategic, and someone with low stamina FEELS like they're too tired to fight properly.

I could accept if there was some kind of softcap to the damage you can deal during breaks though, it's a bit too high as is. Or just more health across the board.
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>>187455482
The ultimate that caused a zoom in both players as if screaming
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>>187455958
Body change.
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>>187454965
Late 2018, early 2019 probably

I want
>Great Ape
>more transformations in general for everyone
>all clothes colorable
>a story that isn't just turning people purple
>more wild/spikey hair options
>enviroment damage that isn't just a boulder
>more strike ults
>muscle sliders
>beam clashes
>changeable fighting styles for CaCs
>at the very least if styles don't get in, custom grabs
>no cast exclusive moves like smile charge
>damaged battle suits
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>>187454965
I want an android race so I can rocket punch people.
Other than that some more damaged outfits, more strike moves, Roshi style power up where you just go buff, and maybe split the accessories into 3 slots like head, face and back or something like that for better customization.
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>>187456606
There's already an android race, it's called humans. You don't get rocket punch, but neither did most androids. You do get drain charge and such though.
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>>187456094
>beamstruggles with lag
Imagine the horror
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>>187454651
I did the tournament to get the paragus armour because I don't mod stuff in

>>187454783
I didn't realise I was a bully the way I fight, sorry anon

>>187454847
If I did that I wouldn't have a 50% win rate though
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>>187456760
>I don't mod stuff in

Well that's a lie...
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>>187456724
It'd be worth it, anon
Who knows, maybe they'll fix the netcode in 3!
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>>187456853
I meant I don't use shopaholic to buy stuff without doing the ingame content that unlocks it.

The only thing I did that with was the DBS Trunks outfit and it truned out broke on PC anyway so I couldn't use it, so I kinda learned my lesson there
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>>187456707
It's just not the same if I can't punch people with my rocket powered fist.
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>>187457549
You don't want an android race. You want a rocket punch attack, which is a cool idea that I sadly doubt they'll ever implement because they'd have to make the character's fist separate from the rest of the body, and I imagine doing that while dealing with clothing options might be a pain in the ass.
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>>187454651
fight me im stronger than you anyways
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>>187457549
>>187457690

Also if you somehow get a rocket punch for XV3 Majins better get the kid buu majin rocket punch.
And Cookie Beam
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So, you guys think any other kind of CaC DB game will be made in the future besides xenoverse and fusions?
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>>187460026
Maybe, there's a bit of a CaC boom right now for OC friendly games.
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>>187460026
Fusions gives a more direct RPG focus, while Xenoverse is more of a fighter, and those two cover the two main genera of Dragon Ball games. While it's entirely possible, more likely than not they're going to stick with those series for a while.
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>>187456760
Your winrate is exactly 50% too? Nice!
>>
safe to say this place is finally dead, good night sweet prince, see you in dbf
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>>187471418
I'd say it was fun while it lasted, but it wasn't.
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>>187471418
Never dead
Just real ningen hours
>>187471952
Dumb nigger
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>>187472403
Better a dumb nigger than a dead one, scrubfite.
>>
I wish we could just get demos for games again.
Seriously Bamco, lemme play that delicious FighterZ
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What would be a good unit to try and obtain for my sixth slot when I have room? My friend
Suggested teq frieza with the 80%? dmg reduction or int Janemba for his block ability. I have roar of death str broly that I need to dokkan. Some str would really round out the team but I was Wondering if utility would be more Beneficial.
>>
I wish SFM worked with cell shaded games so models like FighterZ's 18's could be used properly.
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>>187474660
It is the tradeoff. Perfect looking games, but no possible way to make the porn look good.
We need a philosopher's stone
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Dis guy.
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>>187478461
Caught him eventually though.
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>>187454965
XV3 is not gonna happen
>>
Got back from GameStop Expo earlier today and I got an industry pass thanks to a hook up and managed to weasel my way into talking to staff and getting some info thats meant for retailers about the game.

Launch roster will consist of 27 characters, 4 of which are unlockable characters in the story mode that can be unlocked early for pre-ordering the game.

The 4 are:
SSGSS Goku
SSGSS Vegeta
Android 17 w/ Android 18
Towa w/ Mira who also act as the boss characters

The SSGSS characters and Android 17 do not take up character spots. They are selected by highlighting their existing counter parts and hitting another button to switch to their alternative version. This is similar to KOF13's EX Characters: '02 Kyo, '98 Iori, and Mr. Karate. Similar to those EX Characters you cannot pick both versions of them, for example in KOF13 you cannot pick both Takuma and Mr. Karate on your team and for this game you cannot pick both Goku and SSGSS Goku.

The character select screen also has space for 2 brand new DLC characters in the Saiyan Season Pass which is going to be announced when the box art is finalized.

The story mode takes place after Universe 6 Arc, sometime around the Goku Black arc.

GameStop will be having their own exclusive pre-order bonus items, not in game DLC however.

That's all I was able to get out of them, hope you guys enjoy the information. I know its hard to believe just a random anonymous guy on the internet but I'm throwing it out there anyway. Not gonna let all that work to find all this out go to waste.
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>>187480323
>Android 17 w/ Android 18
At least this seems logical, since they have the models already done, along with a ton of animations.
>>
>>187480323
I hope this is real, I want to see play as Mira. That'd be dope.
>>
>>187480323
>Towa w/ Mira
huh that's interesting, i would've thought it'd be the other way round.
>>
>>187480671
Yes, he shows up with 18.
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>>187480541
17 actually uses the exact same animations as 18 does, outside of his "anti-assist" pose. It'd be a really easy model swap.
Though it'd make a Krillin Accel Dance really weird.
>>
>>187480323
>27 characters
>Post Universe 6 story
>Android 17

This lines up with what the Gamescom people have said and previous leaks that weren't total bullshit. Sounds a little legit
>>
>>187480323
I knew the Blue characters would never be able to be on the same team as their SS versions because they wouldn't want people to be confused about which Goku or Vegeta they're fighting.

Sounds dumb but with an off screen mixup, the characters having similar normals, and using alternate colors you can easily fool people in that split second decision they're making on when to block or not.
>>
>>187480749
It'd just mean she's away fucking videl with gohan.
>>
>>187480749
I imagine they'd give 17 his unique moves and make him a semi grappler character like Alex or Abel from Street Fighter.

>but 17 isn't a grappler
Watch his fight with Piccolo and tell me he didn't use Giant Swing
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>>187480323
>Towa w/ Mira
lel, next thing you're gonna say is they are going to pull a sonic mania/forces thing and link fighterz with xenoverse 3
>>
>>187481018
Towa and Mira are not from Xenoverse you twat
>>
>>187480749
>Though it'd make a Krillin Accel Dance really weird.
>YFW 17's Krillin is actually Piccolo
>>
>>187481018
Toriyama made Towa and Mira for DBO, not Xenoverse. And DBO was considered canon. They're still used almost exclusively for Dragonball video games appearing in all of the major ones since Dragonball Online like Xenoverse.
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>>187481209
does that mean they are bringing db online back?
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>>187481283
they've always been the staple bad guy characters in all the main DB video games. I don't think there has been a big one that didn't include them since Online
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>>187480690
They can't make an ArcSys anime fighter with only one female character
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>>187481018
>>187481209
>>187481282
>>187481283
>>187481360
Towa and Mira were in Fusions, recall. They're major antagonists in Heroes too.
>>
>>187481543
yea i figured that was the reason as well, should be interesting at the very least.
I'm certainly not complaining, just curious at how the character is going to be in game
>>
>>187481543
>>187481626
Well, there was the rumor of Caulifla and Kale getting added.
>>
>>187482007
that guy did mention a Saiyan season pass, i could see them coming from that as additional content.
>>
>>187482090
>>187482007
That leak was super fake and said 36 characters

Saiyan Season Pass is probably shit like Bardock or Broly
>>
All this talking of leaks and possible content in FighterZ is getting me excited. I really look forward to this game, it looks like it'll be fun as hell
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>>187482007
Hopefully.
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>>187482476
fuck off pumki
>>
>>187483395
don't bully Pumki
>>
>Xenoverse 2 Switch actually looks like it runs decent and holds its framerate
>motion controls aren't way of the hado 2
>no option to transfer saves from other platforms
Fuck man, I really don't want to start over.
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I accidentally updated my webm-making thingamajig and these new versions don't do webms.

What do I use now? Something extremely simple, preferably.
>>
>>187447270
(You) <3
>>
>>187487443
webm for retards
>>
>>187487443
Everything in Xenoverse is extremely simple
>>
>>187487545
I've heard about that one before, I didn't really understand it back then but I guess I have no choice but to try it now.

>>187487573
Neither Xenoverse game has a skill for making a .webm. Weird, I know.
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>>187482476
>nipple fur
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>>187483395
Ha! That wasn't me!
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>>187486456
Then don't get it
>>
>>187494376
Make me monkey
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>>187496063
Don't you ever use that tone with me again
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>>187498015
You wish.
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>>187498015
This is the kind of quality post I come her efor
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>>187498015
Same but Taino instead
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>>187454965
Early 2019 is my guess, the things I want most are official mod support and carried progress between characters

>>187486456
Ah starting over ain't as bad since Switch players get a code for all characters or something like that supposedly. It just sucks we won't have the 40 ton weights on the first playthrough, I've been playing through on my Namekian and Human recently and I finished at like level 80 both times.
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>>187454965
More Super Saiyan transformations.
Less transformations for other races.
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>>187498759
Patrician
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>>187498759
Sorry
Saiyans still won't get Red or Blue
Nameks get God form
Buu's get super buu and fit buu forms
Humans get limit break and buff form
fridges get 5th form

saiyans get male only Oozaru :^)
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>>187499427
No one will get Limit Break either, it's just Goku and Caulifla.
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>>187499647
I wasn't talking about that limit break you dingus

also only thing Caulifla will get is 5 seconds of screen time to job so Kale will go berserk and we can fight her :^)
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>>187499427
No need to, just give us False Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan Power, 2nd and 3rd grade, Super Saiyan Rage. :)
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>>187499427
>male only
Look here, fucker, we were just joking earlier.
No need to make things personal
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>>187499861
sorry too hard to code that many forms :^)

>>187499974
okay sure Pumki
it will be for both males and females but only males get to keep their clothes
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>>187500163
I-I can live with that, CALA!
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>>187487914
>I've heard about that one before, I didn't really understand it back then but I guess I have no choice but to try it now.
I've been using the new version of Webm for Retards, they added a lot of functionality. It's pretty great now, faster too.
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>>187500490
good sorry
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>>187499427
Buus need a steaming Buu form.
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>>187500941
It's okay, I forgive you
>>187501010
This, hell I'm surprised their ki charge aura isn't steam
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>>187501010
I want sweaty steamy buufus
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>>187501847
Buus don't sweat!
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>>187502259
Steam water can make it look like they do!
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>>187502359
Acceptable!
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>>187501010
Buus need to be removed from the game
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>>187502659
>Inferior races insecure about magical majins
Nothing ever changes.
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>>187502858
>Majin being wrong
Nothing ever changes.
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>>187503651
>Vegeta
Now I understand the majin hate.
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>>187503881
Posting Vegeta is irrelevant, the message stays the same
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>>187504247
>Posting the guy who asked for the resurrection of Majin Buu and supported Mr. Buu's inclusion in the group.

Be tonally consistent please.
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>>187504416
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHGI5dfSpmk
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>>187504667
>>
Majin Cock>>>>>>>>>>>Saiyan cock

Can't refute it
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>>187504849
Still more impressive than Buu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxS9tUvF61w
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>>187505101
>english dub
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>>187505101
>crying and screaming instead of getting in the way
>impressive

Buu got liquified, then shot, and didn't give a shit.
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Is XV2 Eng dub only?
This may or may not be a deal breaker, depending on the discount of the next sale.
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>>187505425
No, you can set jap voices.
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>>187505493
Eeyay!
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>>187505215
Fuck off Aubah, go jerk off to your child waifu or something
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>>187505538
Not Aubah, I don't even play the game anymore, but as long as your shit taste remains around, so will I.
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>>187505774
>Not Aubah
Sure
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Since Limit Breaker is going to be the new snowflake transformation Goku will get out of pure luck and Vegeta will cry and train to get it 2 weeks later, we can expect SSG or Blue for XV3 CaCs, right?
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>>187506358
Is his hair going to get stuck in bed-head mode or is it just moving because of ki pressure?
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>>187506735
I hope that's just how his hair is.
Looks fucking cool like that
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>>187507006
Looks awful.
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>>187506358
I hope so for the tears it'd produce
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>>187506626
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Hey, my Buu ate a Trunks, and is now insisting she has to "save the future" and "defeat the androids" Help?
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>>187508529
That's what you get for bullying Trunks.
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>>187508529
Stick dick in her
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>>187508529
Give her to the SKoT. She'll know what to do.
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>>187508529
do what >>187509401 said
it calms both side of that fusion
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Is this a mod or how the hell do you get this costume for videl?
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>>187512141
I'd assume it's from the PQ based on Broly's second movie, the one it appeared in.

There's also a second version of that preset with the silly hat, probably unlocked the same way.

Otherwise just try all the PQs with Videl in 'em, it'll come eventually.
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This .webm thingy is better than the outdated poopy thingy I used, thanks Mary.
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>>187474162
Anyone? Did they end up making a dokkan only general?
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>>187515029
Just pick the shiniest card, none of those stats really matter
>did they make a dokkan general
Yeah, and then it died
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>>187514606
No prob qt
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>>187516083
no u
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Say hi to XV3's ranked meta
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>>187518946
Hi
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiEqVUD03Yc
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>>187519226
>meme english dubs
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I haven't had the AI fuck me after they supposedly got changed so for now I'm glad they aren't useless.

>>187518589
u more
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>>187519427
The bad English dubs are the good English dubs, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5ScWDkB-Z0

>>187519648
You should've seen all the times the AI knocked the enemy away from your Final Explosions during our PQs.

del
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>>187520219
The good english dubs shit over the Japanese dubs
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As someone who is not part of the anglosphere and her exposure to DB is either my native language or japanese, I have to say that the only english dub that doesn't sound like shit is the Abridged one. Too bad is wasted on some meme shit.
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a-at least i'm not a buufu, right? haha

I really didn't expect it to work, I was hoping for a swift punishment.
Sorry again, Mary. I'm a bully.
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>>187520881
Abridged Goku is garbage compared to official english Goku, hell, most of the abridged voices that aren't them doing impressions of the official ones are worse. Nothing as bad as granny Goku though.
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>>187480753
what did the Gamescom people say?
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>>187520881
I'll be honest, I think some of the voices in abridged are off but I'd still pay for a voice pack for xenoverse using their voices.
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>>187520881
>>187520881
Funimation Eng and Ocean movies Eng are fucking top tier, and when I say Ocean I don't mean the mega man one, I mean the one that sounds like he is somewhat trying to imitate Nozawa
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>>187522552
Around 25 but less than 30 on launch
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>>187520219
Really now? Because I was convinced you and Celine were the ones doing that.

>>187522082
It's okay, I bullied you back sufficiently qt
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>>187523619
It might have been me and Celine once or twice, but usually it was one of the bots. Pretty rude of them.

you keep saying that and i'll stop feeling bad about bullying you and bully you even harder
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>>187523876
I know I saw the two of you hitting them a lot when I was blowing myself up!

Your resistance only makes it funner
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>>187524701
Did you get a good buttshot of AFKbah?
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>>187525247
Of course
Not that I'm sharing
I need something to taunt Aubah with, don't I
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>>187525779
delete it or i'll delete you
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https://vocaroo.com/i/s1dyhX9InSvA
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>>187526289
no
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>>187527458
ree
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>>187526390
Nice butt, but how about front?
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>>187528685
There is no freedom- only dance
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>>187526390
>>187528932
i want to fuck both sides
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>>187529413
>wanting to fuck a dirty monkey
I want to fuck a maijin girl or a human girl.
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>>187531047
She doesn't have a tail, you wouldn't even notice she was a monkey until she goes blonde
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>>187531131
I've seen aubah with a tail for sure.
>>187528932
this one has a tail too.....
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>>187531834
It's all cosplay, just props.
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>>187531910
No it isn't.
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>>187532019
It is.
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>>187532019
tails are were in the way
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thanks for banning me from this faggot pedophile circle jerk for talking about dokkan in DRAGON BALL GENERAL
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>>187532737
>believing anything this senile hack says
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>>187532737
How were the tails in the way? Tails are simple! SIMPLE
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>>187533821
>>187534074
Tails are for losers and weaklings.
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>>187534170
Tails are cute
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>>187534074
the same reason why tori made ssj have spiky white hair in the manga
saving ink
>aww i have to draw that shitty tail again
>aww i have to color gokus hair again
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>>187532737
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>>187534671
Tori forgets his rules more often than Araki.
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>>187533821
>the creator's opinion doesn't matter because i don't agree with it
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>>187534671
the real reason is that he was too lazy to draw it
he also made everyone learn how to fly because he didn't want to keep drawing detailed backgrounds
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great ape was irrelevant the moment Goku went KKx20 and even moreso when he went SSJ
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>>187534671
Vegeta and Nappa trained this weakness away
Hell, Goku trained it away as a fucking kid
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Can CACs get Instant Severance in XV2? I've looked around on google and it doesn't look like it but I've yet to actually have a concrete answer
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>>187538138
Nope, no Zimzam moves for CaCs.
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>>187538138
Nope. Only way is to cheat for it on PC.
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>>187538138
As of the moment you would have to mod/cheat it in, but there was speculation a Zamasu mentor might happen one day and we could get it from him- but I wouldn't get your hopes up for that happening anytime soon.
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>>187538270
>>187538315
gross
but thanks anon
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This is so wrong
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>>187538138
You mod it in. It even works against people who don't have it modded in, so you can use it against others.
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How do I get Gag-type attack in Fusions?
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>>187531834
Any instance of Aubah with a tail beyond the age of 3 is not canon.
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>>187534170
Tails are cute. Both my Saiyan girls have tails as mandatory accessories.
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How crazy would Fusion+Xenoverse would be?
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>>187539447
I think Yamcha learns one

but here's this https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/185751-dragon-ball-fusions/74639666
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>>187541508
God, majin fusions are just weird
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>>187541508
>gohan rare fusing with another gohan rare
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>>187543296
merged gohan
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>>187543296
Does that make el Super Saiyan Blanco Gohan?
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>>187544458
serious question, do anyone actually like the whole white hair shtick that those guys keep trying to push?
I think it looks like ass personally
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>>187546104
I thinks it's funny how spics turned Dragon Ball into something worse than Sonic's OCs.
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>>187546283
you're not wrong, the fact that someone took the time to make all that stuff is pretty funny at the very least
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>>187546104
I blame Toyo and hiss AF shit for everything
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>>187546283
Dragon Ball fans and Sonic fans are two sides of the same coin.

>>187546951
Toyo didn't start AF. AF literally started with a Spanish DBZ fan. Toyo's AF is just based on all the rumors that circulated back in the day.
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>>187546104
this is the only good thing associated with it
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>>187547225
Is goku black the shadow the edgehog of dragonball?

>>187547421
>constant screaming mess and explosions
looks about right
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>>187547546
Nope. That'd be the new villain, Infinite.
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>>187547421
These are the best
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>>187547723
isn't the point of these to power trip Gohan or has Jiren become the new fan favorite?
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>>187548021
People on /a/ tired of Gohanpedros pretending he's cool.
>>
leave el grande padre to me
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>>187548164
understandable, thought it sounds like a mess for everyone over there nowadays
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>>187548368
It's all recycled memes and shitposting.
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>>187548749
Sounds like they'd fit right in here.
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holy fuck, Janenbu is impossible to beat. Even using the ExFusion mode, the fucker heals more than all the damage I've dealt.
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>>187549273
They already are here.

There's one RIGHT BEHIND YOU.
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>>187549515
>>
are there strike supers that actually use a sword?
if so, do CaC's use an equipped sword accessory for the attack animation?
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>>187550934
Yes, no.
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>>187550934
Yes, shining slash, surning slash and rakshaa...shaka claw
No, they just spawn Trunks's and Janemba's swords respectively into your CaC hands and do not interact with accessory at all
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>>187551152
>>187551208
well that's balls
thanks for the answers, though
>>
Paizuri
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>>187553729
good taste
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people having fun today?
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>>187554347
Just glad to have the story done for Parsa on PC
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>>187553729
with a buufu
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remember to bully your local gohan population
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>>187555916
If it's a buufu you may as well just fuck their nipple.
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>>187557678
Eldritch taste
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>people want tit jobs from a buufu when the biggest chest in the game is right in front of them
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>>187557678
while sucking the other?
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>>187554347
Nah I am having problems with hair mods causing the game to hang at battle loading screens.
That and being totally abandoned by your friends basically made this day real shit.

I'll get these fucking mods to work, but I'll play with them alone apparently.
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>>187559779
Of course, although you'd need to stretch that nipple pretty far to reach it with your mouth unless you're super short or the buubs are super big.
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>>187560457
Buus are stretchy
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>>187560497
Exactly, you just have to get creative with it.
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>>187559262
>implying I wouldn't
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So is Chi Chi a ball buster?
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>>187563723
i hope so for my erections sake
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>>187563723
only if you're involved
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>>187563898
Dragon ball gave me a fetish for strong women that could and probably would beat me up
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>>187564160
Good, submissive women are a bore
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>>187557121
How about you don't bully anyone!
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>>187564474
this man gets it, it should be a constant struggle for power between the two
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>>187564474
You are a bore.
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>>187564793
>implying it would be much of a struggle
>implying most anons here wouldn't go down with little to no effort
Anons are no match for DB women
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>>187564793
Exactly
>>187565025
I mean, that's true, but so is what I said
>>187565558
That isn't a bad thing
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>>187565558
>there are people here who don't go to the gym 5 times a week and study some form of combat training
Still wouldn't help, but i like to think those of us who did would last a second or two more
>>
Why is Goku's mom such a QT?
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>>187565874
Probably wouldn't make a difference since either way they would think you weren't struggling
>>187565652
>Bulma, Chi Chi, and 18 are evolutions of each other in terms of dominant women
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>>187567734
Because she's an upbeat but very dorkish monkey that Bardock constantly had to save because she's shit at fighting and everyone laughed at her for it. And she knows how to handle some meat.
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>both me and opponent near death
>he tags me with justice combo
>vanish the last hit with a pixel of health
>heavy attack for the kill
>instant ragequit
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>>187568646
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>>187570352
I fought one of those during the tournament. He sent me messages after saying it was just luck and that he'll destroy me, then spammed invites until I accepted.

He had Broly's Soul, picked Suburb, instantly went SS3, then just spammed Super Meme Fist for the whole fight. Then when time was almost up, used a healing item.
>>
Why does it seem like only the same 2 or 3 cacs are ever drawn by anyone?
>>
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>>187575272
I see 11 different ones just on the front page of the Booru.
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>>187575272
So what specific event brought you along to complain about this?
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>>187567807
Breeding with Chronoa!
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>>187529072
>using saiyan spirit out of guard breaks
Gross.
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>>187577424
Any usage of Saiyan Spirit is gross.
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>>187534671
>>187532737

Depressing. Goku using his tail as a weapon in the fight against tien was fucking awesome.
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>>187541508
Is only the top of his head gooey? Does he have a brain? Can he melt his brain? Can he survive losing his body but regenerating only the top of his head?
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>>187575272
Well you see, many of them are artists themselves
so they draw themselves and become friends with artists.
And the friends of artists want lots of pictures of them and their "friends". And the artists will draw you too if you conform to their meme regime too.
Just got to get into the circle-jerk.
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>>187571649
>Then when time was almost up, used a healing item.
You can do that?
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>>187577856
only if someone makes a lobby and allows it
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>>187577942
Ooooh, I get it.
Didja win
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>>187578027
i'm not him, it was just the only way i could think of such a thing to happen
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>>187577856
If you make the lobby to allow it, yeah. I was a fool to not check for that before starting the fight.

>>187578027
Nope. He won because he healed all of his health on the last 2 seconds.

Didn't even say anything to me after that, he just wanted his extremely important win by any means necessary, then fucked off.
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>>187581015
best cat
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What if fighterz sucks, and all the people who are pissed at the smug DB fans getting hype are allowed to be smug assholes about it?
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>>187581327
>allowed
nothing is allowed here, leave now before you get absorbed
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>>187578694
Honestly if someone clearly salty spams me for fights I'd prepare my cheapest set, just to be safe.
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>>187582473
>spam pose K to victory
should help with super screenshot fist at least
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>>187583637
I don't think it does. Pose F would though.
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>>187583738
i might be getting my poses mixed up in that case
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>>187583797
K is unbreakable but vulnerable to grabs, so I think screenshot fist may go through. Pose F is breakable but immune to grabs.
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>>187583906
gottcha, would be helpful if maybe the considered adding a name to the poses so we could tell them apart easier
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>>187582473
I was honestly just expecting him to spam JCs again, so I wasn't too worried. That event was on a whole new level.

If it ever happens again, I'll be well-prepared. Or I'll just deny it, honestly. That might be more entertaining.

>>187583906
K is weak to anything grab-like, yeah. Meme Fist is basically its biggest counter.

>>187583974
It's not that hard to tell which is which once you use them for a while. Helps if you remember which member has which poses.
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New Heroes commercial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrxynfxCq2s

Who'd you have in your deck?
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the skimpy mod guy is very productive lately. what a time to be alive
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>>187585107
does emperor's sign actually do anything?
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>>187590440
Not in 1v1s, I was just taunting him with it because I thought it was funny.
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>>187590440
If you use it in 2v2 it gives a huge stat boost to your teammates.
Fridges get an aburd speed boost that makes them basically impossible to follow, even with burst dashes.
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>>187590694
The boost depends on the race of the one using it, does it not?
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>>187590953
I think so, yeah. But since fridges are the fastest in golden form, if you stack that shit and maybe mach dash they become actually too fast to follow.
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>>187591027
Yeah, the fastest you can get is probably a max speed Golden Fridge with Pose D, Mach Dash and Burter's Soul being boosted by another Fridge's Emperor's Sign.
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>>187591371
Right, but from what I hear just being golden and getting a fridge to boost you is already too fast to follow.
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>>187591371
Actually make that 5 ES Fridges, but that'd be EM exclusive.

>>187591498
But why stop there when you can be FASTER?
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>>187541384
seeing you post always makes me happy. you play the game the way it was meant to be played, by doing cool and silly stuff llike this
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>Super DBZ Heroes

It's the thought that counts...
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>>187592695
I'm glad you enjoy it, because I do too!
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>>187541384
flashbacks...intensifies...send help
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>>187594294
Dun bully 17 he didn't do nuffin, bully Trunks, damn filthy half-breed always glitching out.
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>>187595641
To think even bots are working out this trick
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The invincible me is here
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>>187601078
congratz, now got beat the top 10 of xenoverse
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>>187601392
I could crush Leo with my bear hands.
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>>187601392
Zen-Oh sama is sure to be pleased
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Zamasu will return
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>>187604075
gonna bully that shitty green failure of a god
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waifufags are the reason this gen is dead. When the game was new you couldn't discuss the game because of waifu shit so everyone fucked off and now its just you autists and your namefaggotry.
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>>187604296
And I wouldn't have it any other way
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>>187604858
post cac butt
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Why are CaCs so evil?
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>>187605484
Please, next you'll say Turles is a bad guy or something. How silly.
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>>187605484
There's nothing evil about this, nope nothing at all.
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>>187608110
>>187608356
This, too, must be a sign of Shenron's corruption.
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LOLI KAI IS CONTROLLING YOU ALL
WAKE UP SHEEPLE
DON'T BELIEVE HER LIES
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>>187604296
What are you doing to help, anon?
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>>187608110
Turles is evil and so is that fruit!
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>>187604296
Why not both?
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>>187612996
You're evil!
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>>187613973
Am not, I'm morally questionable at worst!
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Buufu foreskin
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Uhhhh guys?
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>>187620468
What.Just.Happened?
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>>187620624
Fusion dance time limit ran out and they separated
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>>187587084
no-one because the game is garbage
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>>187613265
nice gohan
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>>187620624
>>187620468
>ywn have friends ;_;
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>>187623161
Loser
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WHERE IS THE EXPANSION DIMPS
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>>187628771
In my pants.
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>>187628771
Every time you post something gay it's delayed for 3 months.
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>>187628771
Why is SSJ4 so cute
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>>187628983
Delayed as in it's getting more work done on it, or delayed as in it's sitting on a shelf while dimps is giving that anon dirty looks?
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>>187629796
The latter, but Rhymestyle still gets it perfectly on time.
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>>187628878
RELEASE IT THEN
>>187628983
BUT I HAVEN'T
>>187629596
Ah, a fellow man of culture
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>>187629968
I don't want rhymestyle to have anything good.
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>>187629979
>RELEASE IT THEN
In public? Can't we at least go behind a dumpster somewhere?
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>>187630352
Sucks for you, he'll keep getting special treatment as long as he has views on Youtube and sucks Bamco's cock.
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>>187630359
Come in, I've been waiting forever! I'll pay anything!
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>>187630537
When will Zen-O erase this timeline
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Why did Bulma attempt to shoot a lil' boy
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>>187636153
because he wrecked her ride, an unforgivable crime
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team battles were a mistake team battles were a mistake team battles were a mistake
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>>187640719
Counting on you!
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>>187640719
Are you ok?
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>>187640719
Picking Gohan as your teammate was your mistake.
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>>187642102
kek watching serious characters do the para para dance is always hilarious
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>>187641183
YAMERO

>>187641285
no

>>187642102
it's not like i had a choice in the matter, it was all random

that said, he was probably working with them
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>>187642381
I see, my bad, if you want i can join you for some 2v2 tomorrow or something.
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>>187640719
>Gohan being a usleess fuck
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>>187642853
You know he prefers to watch like a true cuck
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>>187640719
I uploaded the whole fight, so you can laugh at my misfortune, see exactly where I went wrong and pinpoint the exact moment Gohan betrays my trust. (It's in there!): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UF6-5aLyas

>>187642754
Sure, at least I can count on you if it's another double woke disaster.
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>>187645731
I wish that you played on PC or that I had a PS4. I wish I actually had people to play with. You look like fun
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>>187646519
But there's plenty people on PC for you to play with!
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>>187646519
But I play almost every day on PC
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>>187646862
>>187646924
none of them are aubah, and thus not worth anyone's time
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>>187646862
>>187646924
Wanna play for a little then
>>
I feel like making a big bruiser berserker, primarily strikes, one blast, no charges. What would make that boring build more interesting, Male Saiyan or Earthling?
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>>187647146
Male Majin.
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Does anyone know if there's a list of attacks by colour? Someone had a list of them for XV1 but there are so many new attacks at this point that its out of date.
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>>187647318
No fatties
No asexual beings
No fridges
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>>187617649
I'd dock with a buufu.
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>>187647614
Which color do you want?
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>>187648234

Green. Trying to figure out if there are any of worth other than Cell, Androids and Broly.
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>>187647146
make a fridge
definitely
fridges a best
B E S T !
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>>187648620
Bojack's, Vados'.
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>>187648620
>>187648769
Mystic Flash comes to mind
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>>187647654
male saiyans the highest basic attack stat
go ssj3 with cabba's soul and slap some bitches
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>>187648850
Also Final shine attack. Well, "worth it" is debatable but it does OK damage at full charge and looks great, even though the damage per ki ratio is low.
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>>187647064
S-sorry, I was the first reply and you already said you don't have a PS4.

>>187648620
Other than Cell, the Androids and Broly, there's Bojack's skills, Vados' skills, Final Shine Attack,

It's actually a pretty good selection, especially if you're willing to count strike moves as well since Android Rush and the drain moves have green as well.
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>>187649015
What's the best "use all your ki to fire longer" ult damage wise? Nappa's mouth beam look cool, but man, what a letdown when it comes to damage.
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>>187649540
Angry Explosion does insane amounts of damage since its buff, after that it's probably Final Shine Attack.
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>>187649483
There's no one to play with on PC despite what you might think. It's pretty sad. If people are in game it's probably just to take screenshots.
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>>187649540
Angry explosion does about 15,000 damage on a ki specced buufu. Final Shine and Emperor's death beam both do around 10K. Napa's mouth beam is useless. Super ki explosion was nerfed to do about 7K damage, but it's fast and does large AOE damage so that makes up for it, it was a little too powerful before.
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>>187649741
I think us pc people are just bad at communicating. There's at least 3!
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>>187649741
I thought it was a lot more lively than that, since last I checked you guys were still having meetups and stuff.

I'm sorry.

>>187649949
15k, you say?
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>>187648769
>>187648850
>>187649483

Thanks all, I'll give them a look.
I really wish they'd let us just change our beam aura/colours in future, trying to stick to a theme but I'd kill for just a regular kamehameha style attack in green. Final Shine Attack is about as close as you can get.
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>>187650240
You started off with 4.6k you goofy goop girl.
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>>187650482
I realized after posting, yes. I am very tired and have doubled my dumb.
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>>187650427
>Final Shine Attack is about as close as you can get.
It's way cooler than any Kamehameha. Except maybe Rose's.
Remember you don't need a heavy break to land it, a simple break into knockdown combo should be enough, provided you're not right at the ground level when you do it.
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Also, any skill resembling this?
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>>187650640
Even right on the ground you can land Final Shine from a knockdown, at least on a female Saiyan.
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>>187650640

I don't deny that it's cool as hell, but its a pretty long wind up is all.
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>>187650826
I figure it's a little safer to knock people away first if you're that low, but I havent tested it. Im just worried about the standup iframes.

>>187650908
Don't worry about it, you can land it on anything that isn't a buufu.
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>>187650606
Maybe you should go to bed.
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>>187651131
Maybe YOU should go to bed.
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>>187649741
Playing with PC is pretty much the same thing every fight.

You can't ever have the goofy laid back fun like in the PS4 webms because thing's like Ult's outside of a stamina break, for example, will always be RBD'd into a 2 health bar eating combo.

There's nothing wrong with fighting to win, but there's never been much wiggle room for more laid back fun when fighting with PC or Xbox.
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>>187650686
Meteor burst maybe?
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>>187650686
Meteor Burst kind of has the explosion effect at the end, but that's about it. And that's only if you hit it.
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>>187651304
Maybe stop fighting randoms? I've had plenty of fun goofing around with Suze and others on PC.
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>>187651483
I wasn't talking about Randoms
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>>187651549
Stop fighting tryhards, and no, not everyone is a tryhard. Most people I fought were perfectly happy to goof around if you goofed around yourself.
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>>187651304
>because thing's like Ult's outside of a stamina break, for example, will always be RBD'd into a 2 health bar eating combo.
Use better ults.
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>>187652070
That actually looks sweet
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>>187649741
you've got my apologies anon, especially since i've recently gotten into writing loretism and stuff, so i've not really been playing all too much (in fact, it is mostly to take screenshots)
what timezone are you in? depending on that, we can probably meet and fight some time
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>>187652070
This.

>>187651649
Straight up, only people I think that haven't done rbding ults regularly are some console peeps, PCNion, Paps and Radish, pretty much it I think.
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>>187652446
UTC+01:00
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>>187652070
Limiting yourself to only the better ults doesn't seem very fun.

>>187652629
You're in my timezone!
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>>187652520
it gets you cool screens too. Though I should say I don't really care if you rbd during ults.
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>>187652938
It makes me wish that we could play even more. Oh well.
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>>187652520
But you usually fight full steam whenever I fight you so I need to be serious too.
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>>187652629
thanks
considering i'm american, we probs won't get to fight on a regular basis, but if you're available now, i'd be willing to punch you
who are you? (or rather, who's your cac)
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>>187652938
Hello there, could you help me with this? >>187651131
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>>187653057
somethingsomething2fast4u

It's just me wanting to punch instead of doing the footsies stuff.
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>>187651304
>playing unsafe
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>>187653276
the unsafe stuff is my favorite.
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>>187653276
Go big or go home
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>>187653187
I'm sure no one would wanna fight if I said who I was. Maybe post your discord and I'll dm you there?.
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>>187653567
i'm suze
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>>187653019
O-oh. Sorry. If you really want I have other games we cooooould do sometime. I'd suggest XV1 but that runs at only like 10 or so FPS for me. I don't think you'd find that fun.

>>187653231
I don't see how that would help you! Go to bed!

>>187653276
Safety is for big nerds, you'll never get sweet .webms that way.
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>>187653758
fuck, forgot to add the numbers, i'm such an autist

Suze#8690
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>>187653965
>>187653758

I haven't fought you in ages suze when do you play?
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>>187653762
sweet webms of aubah fucked without using safety when
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>>187653762
post your steam so i can add you and see what games you have, silly
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>>187654154
i don't really play too much, but i'd be willing to join if you really want to
i'll usually be on the internet from around 6 to 11 my time (-6)
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>>187653762
holy shit that's cool.
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>page 10
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>>187652520
>tryhard complaining about tryhards
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>tfw I only ever play to have fun and goof around, and never really try my hardest to win a match
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>>187654908
/id/Sjamsjam/

Don't expect anything. It's mostly just ancient games nobody plays anymore, or games I can't play anyway because my toaster can't do 'em.

>>187663586
Fun things are fun.
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>>187663586
we know aubs
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>>187664229
>Aubs
Wrong!
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>>187664435
look at this fucking nerd and laugh
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>>187664435
oh shit I'm sorry
>>
>>187664801
No reason to apologize
>>187664535
You won't be laughing when I beat you up!
Replied to my own post on accident, I'm a real dumby
>>
>>187665191
>replied to own post
LOOK
AND
LAUGH
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>>187665270
Who are you and what platform are you on, I'll beat you up double as hard
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>>187665738
Pedro, PS2.
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And this is to go BEYOND PERFECTION!
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>>187665960
Too scared, is that it?
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>>187665738
I'll bully you any time, loser.
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>>187666169
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>>187666085
>the quest where Imperfect Cell goes to the wrong era
actually incredible
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Any DBZ character who originated in a movie is forgettable.
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>>187670126
Janemba was pretty cool, I remember Broly because he's a meme. Everyone else is a ripoff off of another character basically.
>>
>>187670126
Yeah, it's not like one of the most popular dragon ball villains came from a movie. Or Beerus and Whis.
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>>187670567
Doesn't help most of the movies placement in the story is pretty fucking stupid.
>tree of might takes place after Goku arrives on Namek but before he kills Freiza
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>>187670126
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>>187670126
You can claim that all you want, but THE BIG GETE STAR ALLOWED ME TO CHEAT DEATH, HOW CAN THIS BE?!
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>>187671017
The Spaghetti Star was such a weird concept.
Why did they want to bring back Cooler anyway?
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>>187671191
Hey it was better than bringing him brain damaged, then as mud.
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>>187662792
ok
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>>187669413
you mocked his pride one too many times
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>>187672678
Vegeta a shit
SHIT
>>
>>187674463
that random hitbox at the start of his ult is weird
>>
>>187674569
A lot of ults have this little 'personal space bubble' that happens when they're in startup for some stupid reason- Weekend is a very notable example since it'll hit you like 2-3 times if you're close.
>>
>>187674569
Most ults have that for some reason. I believe it's to ruin them during breaks because instead of knocking down your opponent you'll instead flick them and allow them to get back up instantly.
>>
IT ISN'T OVER YET
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>>187676741
MADA MADA DA
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>grab-fighting some nerd with 16 vs Goku
>end up timing out, loss
>on the loss screen 16 gets one more grab in

Fuckin' hilarious.
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>>187677473
>Fight someone lagged into slow motion
>On the win screen they're running around in the background at super speed and grab me
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>>187674463
here's the other end
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>>187679005
thanks, i really needed this perspective on the battle
>>
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>when a random chain-challenges you for 45 minutes and can't win a single fight
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>>187679113
you're welcome, i'm here all week
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>>187679256
jesus christ, why is this netcode so fucking awful
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>>187679256
Who won?
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>>187679005
I can't believe I've been bullied like this

>>187680230
Priority moves (or just grab-moves, I guess) are wonky online I'm still kinda shocked it happened in my matches with Nathan since we're both Aussie but that just goes to show how fucked the netcode is
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>>187680571
Zammyboy did, i accidentally cut the recording too early
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>>187680626
Well that's horrible, wouldn't surprise me if the Switch gets stuck with this trash netcode too
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>>187681443
It's possible- generally people agree that PS4's netcode is the worst, with some disagreement about PC and Xbone having the best, but we'll have to wait and see for Switchverse
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>>187681564
as a PC/ps4 player, i'd say xbone has the best simply because they don't have the dsync issue that pc has
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Dear Diary, it's been almost two months since the latest dlc was released and news of an expansion was announced. My legs have stopped working, and I fear I may have to amputate them. Dimps has ceased sending food. I can tell that they find my suffering amusing, because every so often, I can hear the sounds of footsteps shuffling, and pots and pans being pit onto burners, only for nothing to happen when time passes.
The corner in which I would shit has begun to attract roaches and flies, but I fear that soon, they will move onto me.

Please, God, I just want the expansion already.
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>>187682662
>Usually two months between DLC's
>Not this time
i'm scared /dbg/
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>>187682662
they are working on the switch version
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>>187682514
As a like 90% PS4 player, I know this issue more than I'd like to.
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>>187682720
Dude, they announced they'd eventually make some vague shit, they didn't exactly announce DLC5. You aren't getting shit anytime soon, best hope for news.
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>>187480323
>>187480323

Hi, I am not here to leak anything, but I am involved with the game, and while some things are lucky guesses, it's a fake "leak". I'm not gonna comment on everything.

To clear expectations and avoid fans being disappointed, do not expect 17 to be playable. They simply did not expect the character would be as popular as he is today and they wasted him on 18. This is done. No DLC 17, no swap 17.

The season pass also won't be what this post claims.

Cheers.
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>>187685115
GIVE ME BABY VEGETA AND STOP BROWSING KOREAN COMIC FORUMS
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SSJ Pan (GT) on Heroes When ?
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>>187687784
When we get SS Turles.
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>>187687784
Can't have someone cuter than that Note shit stealing the spotlight.
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>>187688005
Pan (GT) is not cute, she's a brat.

Pan (NM) a cute though.
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>>187688402
>Pan (GT) is not cute
still better than note
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>>187688402
The only Pan who isn't cute is Super pan.
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>>187688506
Note is much cuter than Pan (GT). Note is not a brat.

>>187688561
I want Gohanpedros to leave.
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>using ults other than Perfect Kamehameha

What is even your excuse? It has PERFECT in the name, it's clearly the best.
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>>187689063
It's not pink.
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>>187688836
>Note is not a brat
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>>187689063
goku taught me super in xv1, and so i'mma use it
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Does anyone wanna do 1v1 on PS4 xenoverse? I think i am the only one with a waiting room open.
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>>187689173
Yep. Not a brat. Pan (GT) is a brat who hides things down shirt.
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>>187689597
Yeah but Note sucks dicks in alleyways for DBH cards
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>>187689498
sorry but i'm not gonna be around for a while, hope you find someone
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>>187689731
I'd say "Prove it" but I know you can't. There isn't even a single doujin of such a thing.
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>>187689130
Pink moves are proven to be 40% weaker than blue moves! Make the switch before you get wrecked!

>>187689337
But that's only a Super kamehameha. How can it compete with a PERFECTLY fired one?
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>>187690104
That will only make it more humiliating when I obliterate my opponent with my pink moves.
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>>187690158
But how can you obliterate if you get obliterated faster? Think logically.
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>>187690223
My pink move does way more damage than your Super Kame.
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>>187690306
PERFECT Kame you nerd.
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>>187690104
>But that's only a Super kamehameha. How can it compete with a PERFECTLY fired one?
because i can do it 3 times to perfect kamehameha's twice
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>>187690340
Yeah, more than that one too.
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>>187690372
That's just a matter of efficiency. See, you only NEED to fire Perfect Kamehameha twice to do what Super Kamehameha needs three shots to do. Even leaves you with a little extra ki left over. It's just that perfect.

>>187690383
Prove it.
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>>187690489
k
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>>187692178
Yeah well
Yer CaC's gay.
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>>187692689
I honestly couldn't believe the low damage output of perfect Kame, I expected around 10-12k with the Goku Kame soul.
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>>187692759
Doesn't help that for some reason the startup "hitbox" on it is huge so it's damn near impossible to land off of a knockdown.
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>>187689063
Perfect Kamehameha stopped being good when it didn't let you do a 360 before firing.
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>>187692808
I tried shooting it from many angles and many distances, and never got more than 8773, got less a couple times.
That said can't you just fire it from up high after a knockdown?
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>>187692875
At least the Black kames do.
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>>187692938
You'd have to be really high up, since the problem is them getting hit by the startup WHILE they're falling down. If you do it too late, they'll just iframe through the beam anyways.
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>>187693028
Oh, nasty.
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>>187689063
I do prefer Perfect over Super because it feels more ult-y if you know what I mean, but that's about it.
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>>187689063
I only use pink/purple.
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>>187692759
It was the go to Ultimate for Ki users in XV1. They overnerfed it to compensate.
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>>187694494
Meanwhile you can do 18-20K with Bikku Bang Kame.
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>>187693639
boosted kameing into things always feels like a 50/50 risk
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>>187695313
That's why you boost AWAY from things.

>>187695536
did he died
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>>187695621
Nah. Nakamura's just good at making it look like it connects.
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>>187695621
>That's why you boost AWAY from things.
also it feels awesome every time you can land the back half of boosted kame
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>>187695816
t-that is kinda what i meant
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>>187695891
and i was agreeing with you
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new bread when?
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>>187696282
never, this is the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PnICE6WzaY
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>>187698669
>>187698669
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