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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, 31th of July:
1009 – Pope Sergius IV becomes the 142nd pope, succeeding Pope John XVIII.
1201 – Attempted usurpation by John Komnenos for the throne of Alexios III.
1423 – Hundred Years' War: Battle of Cravant: The French army is defeated by the English on the banks of the river Yonne.
1498 – On his third voyage to the Western Hemisphere, Christopher Columbus becomes the first European to discover the island of Trinidad.
1588 – The Spanish Armada is spotted off the coast of England.
1913 – The Balkan States sign an armistice in Bucharest.
1932 – The NSDAP wins more than 38% of the vote in German elections.
2006 – Fidel Castro hands over power to his brother, Raúl.
2007 – Operation Banner, the presence of the British Army in Northern Ireland, and the longest-running British Army operation ever, comes to an end.

# News
CK2 DD 17/07
>https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/1035735
EU4 DD 27/06
>https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/1032543

# Random Country Picker
>http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
>https://mega.nz/#F!plMxFYTB!sn9MTrvJ0tYjWSHgM8CZow

# Where to get these games
>http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
READ THIS FIRST.
>http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI3] - Flavormod 1.1.0
https://pastebin.com/7ZBm2K3V

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.7.1
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy 0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V10
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2]Africa Mod
http://pastebin.com/kyMpRZcQ

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

Old Thread: >>183643502

When we will get good mods for EU4?

>>184351465
Yeah, but was it worth it? Don't you spend more in war?

>>184351550
Never

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Doing a protestant Italy run in EU4

Should I do it as Florence or Milan?

>>184349442
Pinochet wasn't spanish

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting

we have two new threads and the old one isn't even at bump limit great work fellas keep it up

>>184351838
Florence

>>184351838
Milan, the florentine are scum

>>184351838
Milan

>>184351950
Thanks

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>>184351838
>protestant Italy

>>184351838
>protestant italy
KYS

>>184351918
Based

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The AI just tried to land two armies from naval invasions to ignore my forts to the North. Quite cute imo

>>184351497
>You didn't take Quality, Culture and Humanist - most strongest ideas in this mod.
Quality is not as strong when you have forts and play attrition wars. Leadership however is the strongest so I took it, followed by Admin for merc maintenance and overall cost reduction, then Trade for money, fort for defense and so on. I didn't have the mana required to waste on anything else sadly

>>184351713
Yes, definitely. I maintain all my forts for far less than they should cost

>>184352148
t. catholicuck

>>184352237
Hold up, are you using a mod? I'm really digging the graphical style, what's it called?

>>184352237
Why do people love Admin ideas so fucking much
Why are mercs infinite?

>>184352324
That's bloatmod

>>184352237
Where was your fleet? How you steering trade w/o light ships?

>>184352237
>I maintain all my forts for far less than they should cost
>paying full maintenance on forts
why

>>184352406
Nice false flag Robbie, calm down now

>>184352324
M&t

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Okay, so I've just united all of the Iberian Peninsula under a single Christian ruler, yet now I kind of lack the urge to continue playing this save - sure, I could just continue building up my lovely Golden Square, getting involved in foreign wars and all that, but it just feels... Hollow, you know? Like it's a whole lot of Speed 4x with my only real interactions on the outside being marriage.

So... What do you recommend for my next campaign? I'm entertaining the idea of a Byzantine run since I haven't actually played the Empire in two years, but I'm also kind of toying with the idea of playing Russians or the Polish.

>>184352650
Saladin or any muslim really, they are the most fun to play as

>>184352237
I know it's a little late to give you advice (XVIII century lol), but Humanism and Policy of Tolerance OP in current version of mod.

>>184352650
Protestant Italy

>>184352828
>playing bloatmod

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>>184352237
I decided to walk out before my manpower starts dropping too low. 300k casualties is more than satisfying to me, along with the huge chunk of land I took up there. The AI also paid for everything I spent in the war plus 1k

>>184352324
M&T

>>184352357
>Why do people love Admin ideas so fucking much
Inflation mana cost reduction, merc maintenance reduction, state maint. reduction, land maint. reduction, fort maint. reduction, inflation reduction per month AND -0.10 corruption. All of those ideas are excellent

>>184352536
>Where was your fleet? How you steering trade w/o light ships?
No fleet because no coasts, and I'm not steering trade from trade nodes which I don't have provinces inside

>>184352547
>why
The Ottomans attacked me twice earlier at random times so I decided to just let them sit like that. Now that I decide when the wars happen I can mothball them

>>184352828
>but Humanism and Policy of Tolerance OP in current version of mod
I'll try them out in the next campaign, thanks

>>184352846
>Protestants in EU IV.

>>184352828
humanism is good in any version of eu4

>>184353046
They are the most OP religion by far
Plus protestant countries are the best IRL

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>>184352324
Try Theatrum Orbis Terrarum, it's look much better.

>>184353024
>Inflation mana cost reduction, merc maintenance reduction, state maint. reduction, land maint. reduction, fort maint. reduction, inflation reduction per month AND -0.10 corruption. All of those ideas are excellent
Yeah but economy ideas makes you more money

>>184353159
desu typus is the best and only needed eu4 mod

what CKII mod do people use to add other nobles' sisters/daughters to their harem as sex slaves?

>>184353072
Wrong

>>184353437
Game of Thrones

>>184353437
Dark world

>>184353437
Probably Dark World by loverslab

>>184351427
Ok guys I've got a question: Playing Vic 2 with HPM as Wallachia, went down that nationalism and imperialism, united the provinces and took western Transylvania with the help of Russia. Now, AUS-HUN allied Otto and Two sicilies and declared on my. How TF do I beat those fuckers (Note, I don't have almost any forts, the ones that I do have are all lvl 1's). Also, any tips for improving the economy? I tried to get the socialists in power (it's getting there) but I'm a bit confused by the factory system. What factories should I build?

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>>184353601
>>184353740
thanks guys but does this mod also let you add other nobles' sons to your harem i'm not gay just wondering haha

>>184353159
>that
>good
are you fucking blind?

Can we all agree that hoi4 is worse than 3 but better than DH?

>>184353950
DH is better than HOI3 so uhh no

>>184353807
One word: Russia

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>>184353024
Ottos is very good country for looting. With heavy restricted looting (5% disc - OP) you can take 10 000 ducant of loot.

>>184353807
>What factories should I build?
Profitable ones, like car, clothes, consumer goods, stuff like that. Military goods are only good for your army. Try to build according to your resources.

>>184353857
Yes

>>184354201
>ou can take 10 000 ducant of loot.
Nice balance gigau

>>184353807
Ally Russia or Germany,

>>184354201
>looting that much money late game
I thought M&T was supposed to be historic?

>>184354018
Wrong
DH is shit

>>184353950
Yes

>>184353950
The problem is that HOI4 is unfixable, having the National Focuses be the backbone of getting things in motion doesn't leave much to improvement.

>>184354574
that much gold pays for like 3 buildings, its balanced considering what you need to do to get it

>>184354945
>having the National Focuses be the backbone of getting things in motion doesn't leave much to improvement.
why?
I thought they are pretty good

>>184353807
Restart and hope that the Crimean war ends with you uniting Wallachia/Moldavia. Otherwise, restart since this sets you back more than 10 years easily.

>>184354992
>M&T
>Balanced
lel

>>184354387
>>184354574
I can't take this money to treasure without huge loss of stability. So they go to my provinces.

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>>184354230
sounds really cool is it a good mod?

>>184355245
So looting and keeping the money makes your country unstable?
What the fuck

>>184354992
fuck off, you would never get to build these "mere 3 buildings" without war.
war is supposed to be financially devastating and something worth avoiding, not a looting fest, gigau practically made all nations into ck2 vikings effectively turning m&t into trash that encourages even more blobbing than vanilla

>>184355423
fuck off back to your steamgroup nigger

>>184355450
This

>>184355410
>soldiers spend years fighting in enemy territory
>finally break into somewhere, rape and pillage
>haul all that shit back home
>king decides that he deserves a massive share of the shit you just spent months breaking into a fortress to get despite doing fuck all in the war

>>184355663
>soldiers don't work for the king
>they don't have commanding officers or anything like that

>When your family in CK2 becomes big enough that incest starts happening on its own
#JustCrusaderThings

>>184355450
>war is supposed to be financially devastating and something worth avoiding, not a looting fest,
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_theft_and_looting_during_World_War_II

>>184355450
>encourages blobbing
>when you can't loot land you own
What did he mean by this?

>>184355450
>trash that encourages even more blobbing than vanilla

Have you actually tried to blob in M&T? It's not as easy as it seems

>>184355410
It's not *my* (king) money, it's my soldiers money. They would be really upset if I take away more than tenth of they prize.

>>184355450
>war is supposed to be financially devastating
For the losing side, just lmao loot everything and then demand tribute/reparations

>>184355883
yeah i'm sure if hitler told his troops to loot more they would get enough billions of gold coins to hire another army group and win the war.
>>184355905
if you declare war somwhere and occupy (=loot) a couple of provinces, you might as well annex them after if you can afford it to maximize your gain. see the persian anon for reference.

>>184356176
>arguing with the M&T drones that think bloatmod is perfect

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>>184355450
>encourages even more blobbing
Blobbing? No. Looting? Yes.
How else I can develop my Milan?

>>184355410
The loot pool is 'owned' by the soldiers who looted it in the first place, if they get the keep it then they take it home after the war is over and spend it in the local economy, improving provinces. If the king decides to take a lion's share of the loot then the soldiers get uppity. It's a perfectly reasonable system, I don't play EU4/M&T but I like it a lot.

>>184356264
>bloatmod

Buy a PC that's not $300

>>184356346
t. gigau

>>184356341
>Protestant
>warmongering
Like pottery

>>184356425
Explain how it's a bad system.

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Did you see how much buildings cost in this mod?

>>184356176
>yeah i'm sure if hitler told his troops to loot more they would get enough billions of gold coins to hire another army group and win the war.

literally has nothing to do with your original claim which was looting isnt a normal activity and doesn't happen during war

>if you declare war somwhere and occupy (=loot) a couple of provinces, you might as well annex them after if you can afford it to maximize your gain. see the persian anon for reference.

stupidest post I have read today

annexing land requires manpower, resources, communication lines etc to make sure the previous owner doesn't take it back. Why bother when you could just steal his shit?

This is the real world, you don't get a popup when that guy wants his castle back. He just marches in and takes it.

>>184356562
Maybe it's because you're not supposed to get all of them?

>>184356176
Looting destroys buildings and kills population off, so you want to raze the shit out of countries you aren't taking and avoid looting the ones you are.

>>184356717
Hi gigau
Lurking the thread again?

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>>184356423
kys trash, your bloatmod is shit and will always be shit.
unless i play somewhere isolated like scotland or spain you get random 10 sec freezes whenever 34958 modifiers need to be updated.

>>184356869
>34958 modifiers
Excuse me we call these "pops" in M&T
Thank you

>somewhere isolated like spain

>somewhere isolated like western europe

>>184356680
>your original claim which was looting isnt a normal activity and doesn't happen during war
i never claimed that, but i guess m&t kids need to lie to defend their trash bloatmod

>This is the real world, you don't get a popup when that guy wants his castle back. He just marches in and takes it.
so now you're on a mental breakdown and can't even speak normally

>>184356869
>3.2 GHz
heh

spain, bordering 3 countries, is isolated compared to byzantium or austria that border 10-20 countries.

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>>184356954
Well, nope.

>>184357337
>he doesn't play eu4 like its inflation porn on a computer from 1999 painted red with no cover on it so it doesnt overheat but also goes fast

fucking casuals ruin everything

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is this redpilled


I'm going to conquer all of Brazil, genocide the Brazillians and fill it with ''white'' Portuguese settlers.

>>184356869
You can play vanilla.

>>184357464
it's just modifiers. you could literally lose 1 million recruited people and you wouldn't lose a single """POP""" because they are mere artificial modifiers that cannot naturally interact the way population would.

>>184357589
Whoa
Deja vu
>implying that didn't already happen once in history

>>184357736
If your provinces get sieged you lose about 1/3 of the urban pops, if you get a famine you lose pops, if you get plagued you lose pops

Yes, you don't lose pops according to manpower lost but at least they're getting close and might soon implement it as well. I bet you're the type of people who, when they do implement that, would go on and whine about "more bloated modifiers". The truth is that it isn't M&T's fault, it's Paradox's trashy engine's fault that its so slow

>>184357736
Nor they consume goods or anything like that
They are just modifiers that grow over the time

>>184357972
Yeah, but this time I'll succeed instead of making a mixed race mongrel bastard favela.
HPM really should add a decision for Portugal to accept Brazillian if they own Brazillian territory.
Not Afro-Brazillian though..

>>184357589
t. manuel having a power fantasy

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Explain yourself, huemonkeys. It's like modern day France.

>>184357736
Yeah. Mod decreace population when plague or war destroy your country, but can't did this with loss of manpower. Mb in later updates?

>>184357589
Reminder that it was the portuguese who brought black people over

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Sicily's a fucking bro. I think I'll let the stay as a perma-vassal, never annexing them

>>184358107
Don't really have an opinion on this but I'm pretty sure HPM would say something like "being an accepted culture means said culture should want to be accepted", "that's not happening in the age of nationalism" and more shit like that.

>>184358002
>If your provinces get sieged you lose about 1/3 of the urban pops, if you get a famine you lose pops, if you get plagued you lose pops
i know you can lose pops, my arguments was the lack of dynamics artificially made "pops" have in a game were the engine does not support them.

>they're getting close and might soon implement it as well
do you know how they would do it?

>>184358534
Well he has a decision for the Netherlands to "make amends with the Boer" and get them accepted, so maybe.
In reality he'll probably just get rid of the Boer decision if I bring it up.

>>184358325
They were slaves who rebelled in Salvador and got genocided/"shipped back to Mali" soon after. HPM added them but never really added a way to remove them for some reason.

>>184358534
Damn Alejandro sounds pretty redpilled 2bh.

>>184358764
Based D.Pedro II

HPM got updated? How's it now?

>>184358720
Like the decision to accept Azerbaijanis as Turkey, kek
>Why can't I keep at least Azeris as accepted if I can accept them back by becoming a fascist dictatorship?
>They can't anymore, thanks!

>>184359020
The best way to get a feature added by HPM is to ask him to add the opposite of it.
based hpm

>>184358701
>do you know how they would do it?
I have no idea but a lot of vital things aren't in the mod yet, like the clergy estate (you can see it fully commented-out in the estates files) for an example or the fixed institutions. They clearly said that this is a beta release of what's supposed to be the mod and there's a lot of additions to add before its considered as completed

As for how specifically can they implement such a thing, there's already a check if you have low manpower. Simply throwing a dummy plague once that's triggered over your country that kills the required population equivalent to the missing manpower would be enough and can be easily implemented with no bloat

>>184358534
How about the opinion that they declared independence?

>>184358720
The boer never declared independence tho

>>184359153
>missing manpower would be enough and can be easily implemented with no bloat

>open building list
>cover the cost of a building offering the army as workforce (~10k manpower cost)
>lose 1 pop as if they all die

>7 months since the last napoopan update

>>184359153
>They clearly said that this is a beta release of what's supposed to be the mod and there's a lot of additions to add before its considered as completed
my memory is a bit foggy, but didn't they say that they would release the beta for 2 days and then release the full thing if all goes well? i remember because there was drama cause they were late 8 hours. well 2 days have certainly passed. where is the full version?

>>184359582
They said that too much unexpected irl shit interfered with the development and slowed it down significantly, so they postponed what was supposed to be the full release for 2.1 or 2.2

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>>184359582
Should I do it?

>>184359153
>recruit a lot of people at once, decreasing manpower
>lose them as if they die

or even better

>lose a major battle, 200000 dead, total disaster
>disband them all to prevent them from reinforcing and leaching off the manpower pool
>nobody dies

>>184359791
The solution to your second issue is in your first issue. Just make rural pops disappear once they're drafted

why the hell couldn't a cultural union like the swedish-norwegian kingdom work out? was blobbing so incredibly hard historically, even among kin?

>>184359745
of course

>>184359346
>GULAG

>>184359923
1 brigade = 0.1 pops. i think that m&t pops can only be natural numbers. but let's say it's possible

>disband them (say you have 10k cavalry but you would prefer 10k artillery)
>they die

or are you saying to me that m&t will make it so they get back into BOTH the manpower AND "POP" pools?

i'm not just trying to shit on everything you say, it's just that the mechanics they try to force are too alien/incompatible with the game, and they try to do it on a wrong and overcomplicated way.

>>184358325
>>184358764
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malê_revolt

>>184360376
There are already mechanics that track the wasted manpower of a stack and if the stack is disbanded or not (the estate levies)

calm down laddo

>>184360506
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malê_revolt
While the revolt was scheduled to take place on Sunday, January 25, due to various incidents, it was forced to start before the planned time. On Saturday January 24, slaves began to hear rumors of an upcoming rebellion. While there are multiple accounts of freed slaves telling their previous masters about the revolts, only one was reported to the proper authorities. Sabina da Cruz, an ex-slave, had a fight with her husband, Vitório Sule the day before and went looking for him. She found him in a house with many of the other revolt organizers and after they told her tomorrow they would be masters of the land she reportedly said, “on the following day they’d be masters of the whiplash, but not of the land.”
B A S E D

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>>184360376
>i think that m&t pops can only be natural numbers
Yeah but no.

>>184355002
Come to the Altschauerberg in 91448 Emskirchen, Germany I will be waiting behind the grocery store parking place every day for the next week.

>>184360506
>1910
>some 100,000 African Muslims living in Brazil
>2010
>The number of Muslims in Brazil, according to the most up to date Brazilian census, is 35,207.
So what happened and when exactly did they go away?

>>184361545
They were all slave niggers who couldn't read or write

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So I won a crusade but died shortly beforehand and became 4 years old, and I just meant to grand independence to the kingdom because I already have my Empire.
Now with a 138/8 demense, I cannot hold these territories for a month, and I don't want to hold the kingdom in the long run.
Would the best way to handle this be to hold onto the kingdom title, hand out viceduchies to my lords, and then, when I'm old enough, ensure the viceduchies are held by capable men of the conquered kindom, then pass the kingdom title onto a capable dude of the land, then grant its independence?

Does HPM have any flavour regarding TE Lawrance?

>download m&t
>pick scotland
>"lowland scots" are an english culture and need to be promoted to be accepted
>"highland scots" however are on the same group as the irish and you need to blob over ireland before england does

what the fuck

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so this... ...is the power... ...of the brazillian army... ...woah

Is napoopan crashing at the initial loading screen for anyone else

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>They're going to fight this war with just 55k manpower

>>184362035
You know the highlanders were full-blown Celts while the lowlanders spoke an Anglo-Saxon dialect, and that the two groups were both culturally distinct and not entirely fond of each other, right?

>>184362035
b-buh muh celtic empire
m-muh turko-byzantine union

t. gigau

>>184362058
>France
Anon, are you sure you want to do this?

>>184362453
Turko-Byzantine culture group was a mistake, we're going to change it to Turkish next patch.

>>184362474
>allied with britain
>best friends with Spain so they won't give them military access
heh nuthin personnel

>>184362409
wow, i little search showed me that lowlanders were not really "scottish", they were anglo-saxon invaders while the highlanders were the natives.

the more i know.

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REALLY starting to regret leaving this on in an ironman game

>>184362748
Yet the SNP still wins in the South.
Muh huritage the party.

What are interesting nations in Poopmod that's not as interesting in HPM?
I enjoyed playing the British Union since they don't have all the fucking India shit going on.

>>184362897
>play meme expansion
>get memed
Moving on: I haven't played CK2 in ages. How do you make it fun again?

>>184362915
All of Scotland is Anglo-Saxon now. Who gives a shit?

>>184362062
pls respond
It's crashing at Creating Rivers, usually just deleting the map cache should work but it keeps crashing regardless.

>>184361831
Why not just grant the entire Kingdom out now?

>>184362897
>actually playing with sunset invasion

absolute mad man, do you use conclave too?

>>184361545
Based Empire killed them all

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What a nice guy

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What the fuck happened here?

>>184363260
>1910
>Empire

>>184363121
Because I'm 4 years old and my council does not want anything to do with that

>>184363439
just woke up sorry

>>184363392
you're probably playing a shitty mod

>>184363392
Now that's hedging your bets.

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>>184363486
>he kept conclave on

>>184363486
>Because I'm 4 years old
Underage b&

>>184363486
In that case yes, viceduchies will probably be the best way to go.

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>>184363991
Thanks
>>184363806
>>184363818
No thanks

>>184363592
playing TGC, for a mod covering such a huge amount of time it's not that bad

>>184363056
Turn diseases on the rules and let everyone die of smallpox and consumption in one century.

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>>184362398
aaaand its gone

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Interdasting

>>184363056
I just wait until I want to play it again. I like the game a lot so I get back into it fairly regularly.

>>184363146
Yeah. I mean some aspects of conclave are shite but in general I like it.

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>fifty thousand frechmen died so that their archnemesis can blob
like pottery

>>184364579
i am not sure what the m&t devs were thinking. "yeah let's make attrition be 40 times more deadly. that will definitely not lead to the AI making suicidal expeditions and encourage the player to exploit it."

Gigau's daughter finally died.
Press S to spit on her grave.

S

>>184364674
Yeah I like conclave too, it adds a lot more internal politics into the game. Plus most bad features are modded out if they werent patched long ago. Hating conclave is a meme in july 2017

>>184351427
About to play my first ever EU4 game. I've installed MEIOU and Taxes and the recommended minimod for it. anything else I should do?

>>184364971
Explain?

>>184364971
pics or didn't happen

>>184365049
I bribed his housemaids to smother the child

>>184365041
Uninstall MEIOU and Taxes until you've played a couple games of regular EU4.

>>184365049
his daughter had an incurable chronic illness. looks like she finally died.

S

>>184365004
Which features would you consider bad?

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*barfs*


Does anyone know if I encircle their capital state can I take it?

>>184364971
Gigau's or Demian's?

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is this a sign?

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Hosting Victoria II mp w/ HPM)

3.04 ZIVJ (Make sure you've updated HPM)
98.243.74.178

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>>184364847
come again?

>>184365443
I think the conclave patch was the one that introduced infamy and other things the community hated like the plague.

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>>184365835
>starting multiplayer in the middle of the night

>>184365004
>Hating conclave is a meme in july 2017
idiot
>>184365443
here is my first campaigned on conclave that i played 2 months ago (and posted here) as the duke of britanny.
one of the vassals plots to kill a fellow vassals only son and heir. i naturally try to imprison him, but to my dismay doing so will make me a tyrant and make the entire council rebel. so i try to ask the council to vote on getting him jailed (nice meme). the vassal whose son would be murdered actually refused, because council votes are 100% based on the "voter trait". it doesn't take into consideration relations, interest, or anything else.

it completely shattered all immersion i had.

>>184365978
Bravo, gigau.

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>be me
>browsing reddit, looking for good paradox mod subreddits
>find goku4 modding subreddit
>why would anyone mod this pile of garbage
>most of the posts are self-promotion and google-tier questions about modding files
>literally a question about modding history files that was answered has a post 5 hours later with the exact same fucking question
>people who answer questions are for the most part reasonable, trying to help these clueless bastards read
>wiki in the top corner
>owowhatsthis.png
>autism-level shitty pseudo-explanation of how modding works
>pseud-tier jokes galore

fucking why cant their be a not shit dedicated modding forum

>>184366027
>living in Russia

>>184365528
No, it has to be the last non-colonial state they hold.

>>184366180
>No, it has to be the last non-colonial state they hold.
I thought aitchpeeem changed that? DROPPED

>>browsing reddit

>>184365978
>get half a million volunteers in a single year after losing all of them
epic

>>184365978
That's some hardcore bullshit right there.

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Stop making unbelievable worlds

>he doesn't browse reddit just to shitpost

>>184365978
Can you ask your nobles for manpower?

I was thinking of playing the Magyars in CK2 and settling somewhere a-historical but where. Spain? India?
Also how can I make sure I'll be able to shed all the conquered territory I don't want getting there. Perhaps by not creating many titles on the way?

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>>184366585
of course but their estates aren't as autonomous as mine, they're basically at about 25% average autonomy while I'm closer to 50%

>>184365978
it's 100% paradox's fault for making manpower like mana and m&t's team for not doing something about it.

>>184365835
coming

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>>184366821
I have a feeling that I'm about to get memed on

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Rate this map. I'm Sicily

>France taking over spain slowly
>Seljuk blob
>HRE to black sea

>>184366821
90k manpower every 10 years? Woah.

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>>184367065
almost

>>184367209
could be several million times worse

>>184367065
>>184367280
Man, you **need** Quality.

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>>184367280
Alright enough of this before my manpower reserves run out. I believe that I damaged them seriously enough since Kievan separatists enforced their demands in their Northern territories. I also got the Georgia trade node which is actually a good node (15 ducats) and will now fortify everything around it, plus they're massively in debt right now

Overall a mediocre war that could've been better imo - I lost about 50k more than I should've

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>>184367684
awww

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I accidentally had fun playing HOIIV last night; I forgot to sleep because I was playing Kaiserreich

Any other fun countries to play as?

>>184367985
makes me wanna re-pirate it 2bh

>>184367451

what does that even mean?

>>184367985
switzerland

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>austria wants to ally just when I want to blob
JUST

>>184367889
>>184367684
Show map of the world pls.

>>184367985
i hear the uninstall button is top tier

>>184367985
played a game as democratic Japan trying to make the co-prosperity sphere a thing by allying with the other Asian nations and kicking out the germans. Went pretty well until russia declared war on me and kicked my shit in

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Is it possible to have too much trade income?

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>>184368440
America in a second

>>184351838
always florence

>>184368665
>Anglo-French Union
>it's just Great Britain at this point
Well done, MEIOU.

>>184368665
is that the uk or brittany...

>>184368665
>that Africa

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>>184368665
Da Prata

>>184351838
That's really pretty disgusting. Do a reformed run. Make your form of catholicism more "pagan", not less. Like some of the saints sculptures and paintings and such should invoke thoughts of roman gods.

>>184368665
oYo what's this

>>184368891
did portugal colonzie the whole damn continent

>>184363486
reported

>>184368891
Can you check what the population of random New World provinces is?

>>184368891
>Rio da Prata
Absolutamente baseado.

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>>184369340

>>184369884
Why does all of your pics have an imgur filename?

>>184369884
I meant one of the ones that starts uncolonised, I hear they basically can't grow.

>>184370079
Mb he uses ShareX?

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>>184370097
nope they can

>>184370079
elite blogposting tools that autoupload to imgur in 2 seconds
https://getsharex.com/

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is this blanco es basedaoe

>>184370298
They can't then, that province starts with 10 rural pop when uncolonised.

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this is ok I guess

mp when

>>184370354
>conquering Brazil state by state
>not modding in a decision to reunite the Reino Unido
No, not branco e baseado you castillian cunt

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>>18437035
>blaco
>es

>>184371132
>>184370354
wew

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>rubbing of hands

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Find better borders for any single empire in the world.
Protip: you can't

>>184370486
>tfw mayo runs like shit on your pc
its not fucking fair bros

>>184371778
Historical German empire is probably my favorite of all time 2bh. Greater German solution looks cool as fuck at first but the smaller solution is just so lean and aggressive looking on the map.

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>>184371778
>not posting most based mountain jew

DISSAPOINT

>>184355070
National focuses are a great way of scripting everything without making you realize it's all scripted.

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>>184371778
*blocks your path*

>>184371778
what if a /gsg/ game had each pixel as a province so turbo-autists could stop bitching about historical misrepresented provinces sizes

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>>184371778

>>184372383
just divide germany along modern kreisstadt regions

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>>184371778

>>184372383
Just make everything one province and have people control a percentage of the pops.

>enter /gsg/
>control + f: gex
>0 results

i am permanently leaving /gsg/ and any games associated with it. i'll now enter the rpg industry. any good titles?

>>184372648
This, except without the land north of the Danube.

>>184365978
we are currently working on removing artificial bonuses from ottomans and already removed a lot from 1.22
t. gigau

>>184372752
good rpgs (fallout 1 arcanum etc) or shit shit rpgs (ass effect fallout 3 etc)?

>>184372752
morrowind
gothic 1 and 2

>>184372752
Planescape: Torment.

>>184372931
>arcanum
thanks for the suggestion.
obviously i don't mind about great graphics
or complex mechanics if the setting is good and the gameplay is rich

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>>184372304
>taking random bits in Italy, northern Germany, and Holland
Pic related is the best European borders for France (ignore the colonial borders, they aren't groß enough)

>>184373058
tried gothic 1 but the camera straffing felt way to weird and made me dizzy. shame

>>184373251
>Rhine France
France has a really good shape going on as it is, no need to change her European holdings.

>>184373251
you're absolutely right

>>184373198
here laddo
http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=9453

>>184373368
Take the time to get used to it. I replayed it recently and I was put off by it at first too, and that shit was my childhood.

But there are very few games ever made with a better, richer atmosphere. Try Gothic 2+Addon if you really can't do it, you'll miss out on a lot of references and recognising recurring characters but it has dope atmosphere and great immersion too, it's also superior to Gothic 1 in gameplay, but somewhat inferior in atmosphere, Gothic 1 just gets so fucking dark for its time.

I don't know about the English localisation but I can get lost in those games.

>>184368665
that is a sexy golden horde

Here's my fav RPG
STALKER: Call of Chernobyl

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>we will make good use of them

>>184373251
>greatest france
there must be one for Germany and the Dutch

>>184374423
I think there is, never bothered to save them though

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>>184374423
yep here it is

>>184375017
Based, germans belong in the trash.

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Asking again

What should my Byzantium look like culturally?

>>184376007
serbian

>>184376007
Anglo or bust f a m

>>184376007
What mod?

>>184376007
Syriac Levant, Coptic Egypt, Greek Anatolia (but you can leave a Turkish enclave if you really want).

>>184376007
DESU, I usually just accept that turks, bulgars, etc, are going to be a thing now

>>184376007
just remove the turks

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>>184376416
Beyond Typus

>>184376448
I'll probably go for my general Pontic/Greek/Cappadocian and Turkish arrangement, but how far should I go with Syriac before switching to Coptic (at Saini?) What about Armenians?

>>184376497
I usually leave the rest of the Balkans alone, except for maybe assimilating Bosnians into Croats and Serbs, and push Turks into an enclave

>>184376769
I always feel bad about COMPLETELY killing off the Turks.

>>184376007
Migrate some Goths form up in that little province in Crimea into Anatolia, and some Serbs and Bulgars too, just for fun.

>>184376863
I'll have Romania and Theodoro as marches

why the FUCK are the Indians westernizing so fucking quickly in poopmod?

Are any of these 10 countries in a Paradox game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziq-2JifkjI

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>>184371778
If you insist

>>184376854
Can you zoom out and draw a rough line around what borders you plan on going for? I can make a map from that for the cultural map you should go for

>>184377239
Do you want a specific mapmode?

>>184377396
Cultural

>>184377204
not watching it with that clickbait title

What should my first Ottoman idea group be?

>>184377725
espionage

>>184377620
Hey, it's not click bai-
>creator almost outright states it's click bait
Oh.

Well the countries are:
The Golden Circle
Intermarium
North American Technate
The Imperial Federation
Cascadia
[The Fertile Crescent Plan]
The United States of Greater Austria (basically Franz Ferdinand's plan)
East Turkestan
United Scandinavia

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>>184377129
ah just found out why
poop you litte SHIT

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>>184371778

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>>184377443
I'm going to base my borders roughly off of Isaac's empire in terms of overseas stuff, but roughly pre-Justinian borders + Italy and as far west as Tunis.

Iraq I will make a client state (maybe Christian, maybe under the new Ayyubid tag))

>>184378123
East Turkestan is Kashgaria in HPM and Scandinavia is playable in all grand strategies bar the HoI series.

what is the oldest trick in the talmud?

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>>184378450
The Golden Circle, Intermarium, and Cascadia sounded kind of neat.

>>184378581
Cry out as you strike.

>>184378581
interests

>>184378581
>But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

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>Ottoman Grao-Para

>>184380704
did the ottomans won the crimean war or what? because that moldavia seeems really wierd

>>184380860
looks like poopan mod

>>184380860
That's poopmod, Moldavia starts like that.

>>184380963
>>184380995
I didnt know that, never played napoopan mod

>>184381185
try it its fun

>>184371132
>implying i speak any of your subhuman languages
>implying i'm not making this shit up just to annoy you
el fortuga el manco en fariae un MONTESA!!!

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>>184378430
Had a massive autism streak so decided to make this map. Here's what I've worked out. Some cultures have been simplified into a single culture (like Croatian, Serbian, and Slovenian into Serbo-Croatian) for the sake of making the map more easily. I did remove Cappadocian - this can be written off as resettling them in the west, in the Balkans or Italy. I also left out doing the Caucasus, north Africa, and the rest of Mesopotamia - they can just be left as they are.

>>184381220
who should I play as?

>>184370750
>not cheating in a cheat to cheat the cheat
>>>/r/paradoxplaza might be the website for you, laddo.

>>184381291
Foda-se lol

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These fuckers are playing mp right now and domniating with THIS ONE TRICK and basically, you are fucking retarded. Click here to find out why

>>184381416
Britain or Prussia ironically enough are actually pretty fun.

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>>184381321
Forgot to add Griko in southern Italy. Also, here's a version of the map without the labels or water.

>>184381321
>turkish
Disgusting

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based rebels

>>184381321
Completely replace Egypts with Copts and Levantines with Syriacs.(Supposing you want to convert them)Centuries of foreign rule sponsoring another culture and blandding up could easily wipe a culture by making all of it's people consider themselves another closely related one.

For once, I'm very thankful for Rajas of India because of the "convert to capital religion"

>>184381640
Nothing short of genocide of a people who, at the beginning of EU4, have the same population size as yours (if not more) would get rid of Turkish culture. Instead, I'd be inclined to believe that a resurgent Byzantine Empire at that point would embrace Turkish culture to a degree. Already, Greek and Turkish culture had begun diffusing among each other - you can see it in the clothing and food of the era. Religiously, a lot of the Turks might convert to Christianity, but culturally, they'd still be distinct from the mainline Greeks.

>>184381321
>>184381637
See >>184381640
Turks have NO place outside of the Eastern Steppe.
Also disregard >>184381708
He's a BBC addict and probbably robbie as well xDxD, assyrians and coptics not deviant agnostics ok.

>>184382017
>>184381637
REMOVE TURKS

>>184381936
Probably be assimilating them to some degree. No need to genocide them, after some time in a culturally powerful Roman empire would make them adopt some degree of Greek culture.

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>>184381936
>Nothing short of genocide of a people who, at the beginning of EU4, have the same population size as yours (if not more) would get rid of Turkish culture
Good gyro, only t. *rks are allowed to genocide.

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What DLCs are essential for EU4? I've been playing EU3 for 8 years and avoided buying EU4 this whole time, but the sexy graphics in these screenshots make me want to "upgrade" (not excited for mana)

>>184382687
just pirate them

>>184382687
Just pirate it
And pretty much all EU4 screenshots here are with M&T, vanilla EU4 looks even worse

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>>184381657
Fuck, I need l10 forts NOW

>>184382840
dude 1768 how fast does your game go on speed 5

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