/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

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Third for never forget Stalingrad

>>184235307
M&T is shit, why do you submit yourself to this?

>>184235473
white men

>>184235547
Based degos and romans always running away

>>184235307
Holy fuck how can people really play mayo y tejas? Looks so damn cluttered
>Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away

>>184235747
based Enrico Dandalo quotes

>>184235418
I'm just saying the places where Russia wanted to blob IRL.

After you do all of that then I don't know what you should do, maybe destroy the AH since they are opressing all those slavs? It might be easier to do it if you formed Yugoslavia.

>>184235605

Of course nigga. Their pretext was to "protect eastern christians" just like the USA is doing right now.

>>184235807
it's actually the Spanish friar Enrique de la Dandelion

>>184235583
I'm having fun.

Slow, crashy fun, but fun nonetheless.

>>184236013
Based

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>free Trust mana with the Ottomans while balkanizing my rival at the same time

based

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>>184236137
oops lmao

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>cant take the rest of vietnam because muh red flag mana
fugg

>>184236572
infamy isnt mana tho eu4 baby

>>184236147
Wastelands in EU4 can make sense since controlling most provinces bordering it mark it was yours, preventing huge holes in your map.

In Ck2 it's pretty dumb.

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>>184236357
I've been kiting the AI for an entire year around this mountain and he just keep going in circles while his 35 stack is melted down to 21 due to attrition

>>184236572
just do it pussy. it's easy to win containment wars.

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>>184236919
result: 16.8k

How would Victoria III look like if paradox makes it in the next three years? Better or worse?

>>184237594
Is this a rhetorical question?

>>184237594
It will look much better and hopefully play much better after the first 20 years. Vic2 a shit

>>184237594
Stop asking this fucking question

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ching chong nip nong

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>>184237719
epic

>>184237848
Everyone knows V2 is objectively shit after 20 - 30 years.

>>184237594
>tfw no director's cut like Vicky III

The only thing I would add is shit like a minigame for underground movements. This would make having big empires and blobbing more difficult.
>>184237719
>le 20 years meme

>>184237940
I agree with this. We need to make gsg more railroaded and more like wikipedia

>>184237940
>le 20 years meme
Not an argument.

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>>184237285
Alliance with the Ottomans in EU4 101:

>wait for Sultanate of Rum CB war
>suicide your army into the enemy stack several times so the Ottomans are unable to get high warscore
>let the Ottomans invade the desert region, subtracting an entire 150k of their manpower from attrition
>your other enemy also loses about 50k manpower from sieging and attrition
>keep suiciding your army to bring the score to about 0
>they sign a pyrrhic white peace with both of them being damaged greatly while the Ottomans haven't expanded even one province further
>receive upwards of 30 Trust mana with the Ottomans because you lost a lot this war, allowing you to call them in for free in the next 3 wars

>>184238029
>I want to blob as Russia and conquer Germany
Nigga pls. Underground movements could be cool. I know that the "Increase tension" somewhat represents that, but why can't you finance rebels like in EUIII?

>>184238152
>why can't you finance rebels like in EUIII?
Because it opens the door to things happening that did not happen in history and that is shit gameplay.

>>184238260
what the fuck, are you trying to trick me again?

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>>184238260
>Because it opens the door to things happening that did not happen in history and that is shit gameplay.
>EU4

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>>184238128
result:

>turkish manpower: 0
>mamluk manpower: 0
>provinces taken: 0 because 20% warscore for full occupation

>>184238392
>implying I play such an ahistoric game

>>184238497
what games could you possibly be playing if you're that concerned with historical accuracy?
other than HPM of course

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>>184238432
>180k

madmen

>>184238497
>implying you aren't one of those retards who was amused at the idea of having all France cored by forming the Angevin Empire in EUIII D&T

>>184238654
Vicky 2.

>>184238704
What the fuck are you on about? Go back to your Dutch Stockholm fag

>>184237931
>rgo output techs
>railroads
>up to 20% input/output industrial tech bonuses
>shit countries getting their education up

this is where you are wrong. i guess it becomes shit for eu4babs because you actually need to develop your land instead of blobbing.

>>184238807
Sure thing young lad from the Prussia meme.

>>184238128
does losing soldiers in mayo and texas reduce your pops? for example would losing 20 full brigades cause you to lose 2 pops? if not you are cheating.

>>184238791
>Vicky 2
>historical
off yourself

>>184239116
Sure thing Tidore Canada

>>184238128
>>184238432
seems kinda gamey and i can see why paradox makes it so AI doesnt get attrition in vanilla

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>>184238679
>he sent his entire army (which is now equal to mine in size) in the middle of the desert
based

>>184238978
>for example would losing 20 full brigades cause you to lose 2 pops?
I think that they intend to do such a thing in the future but there's no such mechanic yet. And I'm losing mercs by the way, which I afford to reinforce by leeching my Burgher estate

>>184239157
nice argument

>>184238791
Kys fagget. Return to your March of the Eagles game.

h8 eu4

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>>184239309
not an argument

Why did you guys create a /gsg/ board on 32ch...

>>184239309
>>184239320
Any game where you can blob outside historical borders is pathetic and you should feel bad for insulting history. Ever saw Greece colonising India? Italy colonising Scoltand? Worthless.

>>184239491
Honestly it should only make sense if you are playing EUIV (or EUIII) since shit like nationalism was still a concept and historical shit like routes to the sea and financing of explorers was starting.

>>184239660
No blobbing. In any game. It never happened.

>>184239491
>Ever saw Greece colonising India?
Didn't alexander do that

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>>184239194
>seems kinda gamey and i can see why paradox makes it so AI doesnt get attrition in vanilla
Even after considering this mechanic and that they're fully occupied, Mamluks are up 8.5k manpower while the Ottomans are hiring free Mercs. Once peace is signed they both will have maxed manpower in about a decade or two because the AI has insane hidden bonuses to compensate for attrition. It's not that "gamey" because there's no much use in it but slowing down the Ottomans a little while making sure that the Mamluks will have a civil war so you conquer them easier next war

>>184239491
>not thinking Vicky 2 is historical makes you think eu4 is historical
That's great logic there

>>184239740
Italy had a go at Scotland too. It's a good bit of bait that the anti-blobbing autists fall for every time.

>>184239818
>Italy had a go at Scotland too
Really? When and how?

>>184239713
Austria blobbed pretty hard into Slavland. So did Russian in Central Asia. That's why the missions, decisions and events represent this and makes you expand into these regions.

That's why there should be some sort of even harsher penalty if you are blobbing outside of your "Greater X" territory. However, that would mean a whole new level of abstraction and shit like trade networks and diplomatic agreements represented just by a rebellion modifier.

>>184240017
>>184240017
Blobbing never happened.

>>184240127
thanks for those (You)'s, I appreciate it.

>>184240224
Sure thing eu4

>>184239491
in my opinion they should just make a game were you can't blob ahistorically not because of railroading, but because of the historical consequences it would have.

why didn't greece colonize johore at 1840? because the mainland was unstable and poor, they had no ships that could safely travel all around africa and asia, they had no officials who knew how to manage a colony, they had no political support to send thousands of soldiers across the world for a campaign that could fail, they couldn't spare the soldiers as they were needed for a potential war with the ottomans and they would be intercepted by the great powers who wouldn't accept a shithole getting those gold mines.

if those things can be well modeled, then there shouldn't be artificial limitations on what to do, as everything is a relatively accurate depiction of reality.

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can we PLEASE KICK EU4 OUT OF THIS GENERAL AND MAKE IT FOR VICTORIA 2 ONLY and hoi3

>>184240338
Yes! If you blob outside your cultural borders the entire world forms a coalition against you. This would be perfect.

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What would a GroßSaxonium look like, lads?

>>184240534
germany

>>184240534
That's a blobby Saxony tbf

>>184240338
That would make EUIV into a simulation game. Way too much autism for the paradox audience.

>>184240397
When will the "All australians are descended from ex-convicts" meme will stop?

Also, if you watch old videos where there are abbos they actually look human. They look like indians mixed with west africans.

>>184240301

lmao another German that thinks he can get away with killing other white men while Turks take everything from under him

>>184240763
it's historically accurate since the proddies had an alliance with the turks

>>184240534
All of pooland at least

>>184240643
I know the meme is false. Some Australians are descended from the prison guards as well.

>>184197498
>5
I don't understand how other nation have it up so much higher than me. I don't have the population to fit all of my factories but my population is bigger in my non-colonial states than other nations. For exmaple, why does to US have so much industrial power but has half my population?

>>184240831
Enjoy giving your children to Mehmet in that world, Hans

>>184240301

Does Tuscany form Italy often?

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>>184239760
So now the occupied provinces are getting re-occupied by rebels, which is great, but it also seems that the game gave the Ottomans cores in Syria and they just got the provinces through the War Dynamism mechanic anyway, which is bad and shouldn't have happened because now I can't annex them.

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>>184241312
Rebels took the capital and the warscore dropped to -22%, but the Ottomans keep getting provinces due to War Dynamism for some fucking reason. Probably a bug

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Europe
Presented by: Feudalism

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>>184241692
There we go

>300k

>>184240901
Encourage craftsmen mate.

>>184242009
also, won't increasing party loyalty to a faction that's in power make people less militant?

>>184241716
The fuck?

>>184243120
It's only the way they vote, it doesn't encourage how they actually think.

It's literally useless in absolute monarchies or dictatorships. You can look it up and find some reddit posts about it too if you don't believe me.

>>184243120
It doesn't make them like the ideology, it makes them like the party. Which is useless as a dictatorship, its only use is when you're a government with elections.

>>184243459
he wasn't a faggot so he went straight for the hard stuff

>>184243348
>>184243437
is events to only way to change how they think? also what does party loyalty do (the one that's done through decisions)?

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cuck

>>184241716
>Lombardy declared war on Wallachia
>teutonic order and golden horde signed a pact of non aggression
BELIEVABLE

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>>184241716
At the dawn of the year 1349, the mighty kingdom of Bdin looks for new possible trade partners since the once mighty empires of the past have collectivly crumbled to dust. Small but effective ruled duchies emerged victorius over the power struggle and became serious regional powers.

Bdin recently payed tribute to the greedy swizz so both powers can prosper fom trade.

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>lets check how Baghd-

>>184244124
>Lisboa
>Moroccan

>>184244001
>also what does party loyalty do (the one that's done through decisions)?
I meant ruling party support.

Anyone else get insanely bored of V2 after a while? I feel like every single game the exact same thing happens minus some small changes here and there.

Anyone recommend some fun mods to play on it?

>>184245078
>Anyone else get insanely bored of V2 after a while?
Yes, everyone

go play M&T for pops

>>184245187
>M&T for pops
wanna know how I know you've never played v2 past the first 10 years

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>>184244890
>doubles city growth rate

200 pops Baghdad by 1700

>>184245187

Yeah doing an M&T game now, got slightly bored since there's really nothing to do in eu4 peacetime.

>>184245446
From imported food, right?

So it's just removing the half growth rate penalty imported food normally gives.

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>mfw I tried to play Command Northern Inferno
I thought I was hot shit for figuring out V2s economy but I guess I'm a retard.

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>>184244405
The deceitful warmongering heretic pope just stuck a heavy blow too the muslim lands and took half tunis. In his unholy wrath he killed off the whole bloodline of the tunesian sultan, resulting in the implosion of his former empire.
South italy is in christian hands again, however they already are in war with the greeks and suffer loss after loss
The pope took the initiative and cut off all relations betwen him and switzerland and excommunicated all swizz from the catolic church.

>>184245881
I don't know what the fuck is going on but that Papacy is good.

Why the hell would my own family members support plots of other patricians to seize trade posts from me

>>184245078
That's because V2 is solved, there's a single winning strategy that you go for regardless of who you play. Every country is the same, it's just a matter of different starting power and the amount of flavour they have.

>>184245697
It's not that hard if you know a decent amount about military equipment and can find the right stats and info through the ui. Most shit is automated iirc
It's just that the game is essentially a civilian version of military training software so not too accessible and an ugly spreadsheet simulator which doesn't really have graphics

>>184245078
>>184246328
its a visual novel for alt-history nerds

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>>184245881
Since the house of Bdin and the emperor of Byzanz are bound by marriage ties, Bdin could inherit some of the Byzantines recently conquered land in moldavia, as the emperor died. Bdins luck ran out as a marauding group of wallacheians took charge of the recent powershift and attacked the city of moldavia. Before our troops could engage, the damage was already done. The rebels took the city and declared independence.
It will take a while to restore order.

>>184246518
your mom is a meet n fuck game for the neighborhood

>>184245697
>but I guess I'm a retard.
If ever in doubt about this, just remember, you use 4chan.

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At least they protected me for a couple decades until I got on my feet

>>184247774
this but unironically

>>184248669
this but ironically

>>184248669
I didn't mean it ironically, I know for sure that I am a highly (relatively) functioning retard, I get off by watching big, unrestrained Germany and Byzantium blobs.

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>>184247215
But as the glorius king of bdin came back from his (re)conquest he had to realize that his worst fears have come true. The battered and declining Byzantine empire got completely devoured by the muslim hordes. Constantinople glorius gem of the east got captured in a shoking blitz campaign of engyptian plunderers.

Now with the protector of the patriarchy down on his knees, who else will be able to save the orthodox church from its Imminent Annihilation?

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>I'll get a full blown religious civil war because the small rebel stack from the two Sunni provinces on the other end of my nation managed to occupy the province for a few months

bravo

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>>184249469
>ruined my entire game so far because of this

As wiser people tend to say, "play meme mods get memed on"

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desuu~ declaring war on anyone allied with qing should count as an exploit, i can beat literally any great power in a month with this ridiculous war score gain

>>184249768
looking at the millions of dead chinks in the vicky2 war analyzer is one of life's greatest pleasures.

Any of you plebs use Concert of Europe (standalone mod for PDM) ? Game starts in 1821, an extra 15 years to build liquor factories and deport your niggers.

>>184249650
>why can't I just play my shitty comfy game without having any challenges?

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>>184249650
At least I get to do this for free once I win

>>184250076
>any challenges
>let go of a single province for 4 months? -3 stab and civil war lmao

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>>184250041
>PDM

>>184250207
Read about the Wars of Religion in Europe and look for yourself how easily the shit escalated.

Still, I'm not glad you aren't being tolerant like the OG Persians were.

Would it be possible to mod in a decision or something in EU4 that'd let you turn certain terrain types into grassland or farmland - sacrificing defensiveness (and some money or mana) for cheaper development and more building slots?

Like, let's say you're Britain and you've conquered Ireland. It's mostly woodland. Could you mod in a decision like, "Enact land clearing in Ireland", with the requirements of controlling Ireland, having certain tech, some mana and money, and the effect of changing all Irish woodland terrain provinces into grassland provinces? Or is terrain hard-coded?

>>184250461
?
HPM has some issues and bugs from what I remember, and it's not as developed as PDM is.

I bet you don't even use Black Ice for HOI3. Pleb.

>>184250623
HORSE

>>184250589
yes

M&T are currently working on the deforesting mechanic if I'm not wrong and are trying to create a lumber-based economy for ships

>>184250623
pls be bait

>>184250589
It would last like 80 years.

>>184250696
Are you retarded? Or do you think your worthless replies are funny?

>>184250794
FACTORIES

>>184250623
Such a low quality bait yet people keep falling for it.

>>184250828
That's your argument of butthurt about PDM? Really? A "Stables" factory? Anything else? Like a legitimate complaint or reason I shouldn't use CoE?

>>184250982
not him but what has PDM that HPM doesn't have appart from the shitloads of new resources?

The only good thing they did was the Scramble for Africa before the HoD expansion got out. Also, I prefer their Oriental Crisis chain of events than that of HPM.

>>184250982
>getting industrial score from stables

>>184251376
It's literally the same ven chain tho

>>184251376
I like some of the new resources, and as far as I know, it's more thoroughly developed. I have both now, but I always used the variations of Pop Demand Mod, when it was basically the only mod. HPM has alot of africa as "african minor" where as PDM has a bunch of different groups. Not that it really matters, a nigger is a nigger.

One thing I do recognize now though, since re-installing, is elections are very easy to control in PDM as opposed to HPM. So there's that.

>Finally start playing Victoria II again
>Playing as Sardinia-Piedmont, trying to form Italy
>Keep getting cucked trying to sphere the remaining nations for about 1.5~ years
Any anon mind helping me on how to (effectively) sphere nations?

>>184215501
>>184223997
Found some more information on population near the game's start and put it together in a pastebin https://pastebin.com/Fw7GnHR6

>>184251673
I fucked up then. I don't remember seeing anything about the fate of Hedjaz in HPM though.
>>184251694
How is it more developed? Does it have more events and decisions that aren't simply "Add 5 prestige"?

>>184251912
>trying to sphere
lmfaokek

>>184251912
It's ok, just know that even if you fuck up you get an event in like 1870-80 that automatically creates Italy for you assuming your the only Italian GP. For sphering, I usually focus on 1 at a time since the AI usually does a stop-and-go approach to building influence.

>>184251997
I haven't played enough of HPM to know everything that it has. I'm basically assuming it is because it has been a mod in development since Victoria 2's release, with many versions, and lots of submods. It's what I always used.

How about some of these HPMophiles tell us what it has, and why we should use HPM over PDM. I don't want to invest my weekend playing a game only to find it's shit and the other one is better.

>>184251912
>struggling as Sardinia-Piedmont

Git gud faggit. If you want to form Shitaly as early as possible then attack the AH when they are involved in a war. If not then just wait for that event to get Lombardia.

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>40 Delhi
>20 Indus

>>both can be monopolized in 4-5 wars
>>60 ducats per month

Oh well it seems that I'll have to go with this >>184214561 instead of conquering Mamluk lands because its too late and the Ottomans already took them. Once I get my +60 ducats per month I'll be back to dismantle the Ottomans

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rate comfy kingdom

>>184251912
you influence up until you get discredit, wait until the modifier expires and then repeat. if you pass 40 influence and they haven't discredit you yet then stop and wait a little while and try again. the idea here is to make them waste influence on discrediting you without getting expelled or having your ambassador banned until you can remove the previous sphere master

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And there's all of North Africa under my control

I'm debating if I should blob into sub-Saharan Africa

>>184252273
PDM has the advantage that they did a lot of shit so it serves as a base for many mods.

HPM was done as a lite-PDM without the bloat (factories, resources).

>>184252471
I'm a fan of that Wessex.

>>184252260
That might have been my problem, as I was trying to sphere all of them at a time. Thanks lad.

>>184252529
So for people who don't get triggered by a HORSE FACTORY, you would say that PDM is a better choice for now?

>>184252529
PDM is just bloat at this point. There are way too many RGOs and the economy is even more broken than HPM. It doesn't help that each province can only produce 1 RGO at a time so you either end up with way too much useless RGOs or nowhere near enough of the important RGOs.

>>184252582
Dumbass

>>184252652
HPM has a better treatment of pops, assimilation and the New World than any other V2 mod. The economy is not nearly as easy-mode as PDM. Cheesy strategies like rushing healthcare have been accounted for where possible.

And it runs noticeably faster than PDM.

>>184252652
The Quota immigration is something really interesting since it actually works and attracts immigrants with high literacy.

That's the only good thing about PDM. It was THE mod before since it had stuff like Great Wars and Scramble for Africa, however, these are now part of the expansion.

PDM and HPM are pretty much the same now, except for the huge bloat that PDM has, which the AI doesn't know how to use. I prefer HPM than PDM.

>>184252997
Ok, that stuff is important to me. I like to play in the western hemisphere. What about historical/ahistorical events and decisions? Both about the same? Or does one have more support than the other in that regard.

>>184252885
>RGOs and the economy is even more broken than HPM
How is HPM's economy broken?

Should I grab East Prussia as Poland? I have no intention of going PLC.

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>>184248582
here's something to restore the balance of power

Hopefully they don't start pulling me into their wars every 5 or so years

>>184253391
Why wouldn't you? It's an important trading hub so any regional power would realistically attempt to take control of the trade flowing through the area.

>>184253161
It's been a while since I last played PDM so I can't give you an honest assessment of that.

>>184242313
>>184242493
>>184244512

If I don't want to pirate it how much would it all cost me on sale >_>

I'm not adverse, just if I can get it cheap without pirating (<$15) then I'd rather do that

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>>184252471
Good
now take some pagan provinces, convert and attack the warmongering pope

>>184253779
>>_>
It would cost you a good cock suck, I think you'll be familiar with that.

>>184253614
Does HPM have _fun_ ahistorical stuff? Plausible decisions/events? Such as Russia taking constantinople. I'm pretty sure that particular item is part of vanilla (or im thinking of a mod for Victoria1), but stuff like that I mean.

>>184253391
Fucking pussy. Grab Ostpreussen, form the PLC and then fulfill Poland's endgame, Intermarium.

>>184251912
How to steal spherelings from AI (can also do this to form germany without warring austria)
1. Build factories and railroads in nation if possible
2. Influence until youre discredited and at about 40-50 influence points.
3. Once you've reached your boundary, start influencing your target GPs other spherelings to get them to lay off your desired sphereling.
4. When the discredit wears off repeat this process.

>>184253847
>Plausible decisions/events
>Russia taking constantinople
lol

>>184253795
>implying I'm good enough to do any of that
I only managed to conquer Ireland by autoresolving on easy while swarming them with twice their numbers

>>184253989
hehe upvoted your post xDD :^)

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Large amount of german pops compared to a relatively small amount of poles. Also arguably uglier borders.

>>184253989
the crimean war happenee because russia wanted it

>>184253847
You can restore the Spanish Empire if you manage to win the Chincha Islands War. That is the only ahistorical shit you get in HPM.

>>184254129
>the crimean war happenee because russia wanted it
shit cucksians say

>>184254093
in answer to >>184253595

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>>184253496
Are you mudslime or based Zoroastrian?

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>>184238128
>>184238432
>>184238679
>>184239210
I approve of this, using the roaches to your own ends in pursuit of grand Arya.

Are you ready to plunge the knife into their back?

>>184253834
Seseriously though, is it cheap or is it too expensive even on sale

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>>184254269

>>184254093
Never playe as Poland in HPM. Which decisions they have appart from getting a core in Danzig?

Can you form le ebin PLC?

>>184254192
Well I do know that if you get the Southern Democrats in power you can do the Ostend Manifesto decision, which gives you a claim or cassus belli for Cuba.

>>184254348
Except you literally can never get reactionaries in power as any democracy.

>>184254441
You can if you lose many wars.

>>184254192
There's no ahistorical formable nations?

>>184254269
>zoroaster
>blue eyed
>reddish haired
either this is some westerner fanfic or the persians have been genetically cucked into being generic brown "people"

>>184254345
yes. The blue marker in my previous pic indicates the "eastern territories" that you can claim cores on if you have a jingoist government.

>>184254591
No nigga, no Hispania, no Babylon, no Byzantine Empire.

>>184254669
*unzips red-haired Egyptian mummy*

>>184254691
holy shit

If that's the case then form Intermarium. Liberate Ukraine, sphere them and then sphere the rest of the Baltic nations together with Yugoslavia.

>>184251997
>. I don't remember seeing anything about the fate of Hedjaz in HPM though.
It does happen, the oriental crisis is the same thing through PDM to NNM and consequently HPM.

>>184254828
>gypsies
>iranians
erm,,,, laddo???

>>184254669
the second, they were really similar to ancient greeks until the arab conquests, look up the tocharian mummies

>>184254669
>multiple arab and turkish invasions
Gee, I wonder. Also, the ruling class of eastern empires have always been fairer than the others. The further down the social ladder you go the swarthier the people get.

>>184254845
I don't actually know if they have a decision for Intermarium. I wasn't actually familiar with the concept until now. Does anyone know if this is a thing in HPM?

>>184255062
I'm pretty sure you can't "form" Intermarium since that concept was never a blobbing-based one. It was more about expanding polish influence to weaken Russian, hence why I told you to liberate Ukraine and the Baltic Nations.

>>184255080
stop bullying minekid and get back in the studio, dr. shekelstein needs to make those eponymous shekels

>>184255286
is english not your first language or is gsg really full of socially retarded 10 year olds now

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>>184254293
>Are you ready to plunge the knife into their back?

Soon. When the whole border is fortified with multiple 4 level forts I'll bait them into a war and let them try to siege them all, as most of them are in a mountain. The weak spot of the Ottomans is that they waste too much manpower on attrition and they only have 250k of it before their stacks start melting down. 250k is very easy to melt with forts if its easy in the desert without them >>184239210

>>184255465
>english not your first language
erm you capitalize *nglish

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Can someone explain how to production NF tab works? I don't understand the difference between this and just moving people to work in factories that produce what you want.

>>184255562
you're not funny stop responding to me

>>184255592
It doesn't change production, it'll encourage AI capitalists to build said industries.

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>>184255246
I was under the impression that the idea was to federalize the states. In terms of sphering/puppeting the states in question - that was already my plan after I had beating Germany.

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>>184255536
The time has come

>>184255828
Based
Crush the T*rk

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poland more like pooland

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>>184255981
not so fast

>>184255816
One thing to add though, is that when I've finished all the liberation, I will have to actually puppet Lithuania, Ukraine, Belarus and Czechoslovakia, because I will be holding onto cores they want.

>>184255816
If you want to blob then puppet all of those states. Your endgame should be to balkanize Russia and the AH. I'm not sure about Germany, but since you are going to take a good chunk of their territory maybe it won't be necessary to release Rhineland.

>>184235313
I was looking forward to play as Zulu and BLACK all South Africa but it seems they are going to be extremely boring since they have no decisions to blob. Which african countries are interesting to play that aren't Ethipia?

>>184248582

of course they did, you made them lose like half a million people, you're a really shit ally

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>>184256069
So the obnoxious cockblocker who kept declaring pointless wars on me is finally out of my trade node, giving me absolute control over it

>>184257373
what's your endgame?
Are you going to expand west?

>>184256594
Pretty much only Egypt.

>>184257373
for a sec i thought that rubál khali was the sea and i freaked out at that tiny new zealand south of persia

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>>184257528
I want a monopoly over all the relevant Trade Nodes in this area so I have a massive income that is enough to urbanize at least a third of my population, creating a highly-urbanized Zoroastrian Persia. The red line to the West is unconquarable if you put high level forts there due to the mountains, while the East one is very easily defendable since its mostly mountains as well. All wars after that become proxy wars for money or vassal expansion

>>184258190
sorry buddy, you are blobbing way too much for my taste, you are no longer w&b

>>184258190
aryan and based

>>184256594
>>184257538
The tags that can form Toucouleur are also okay, but as with any African nation, there isn't too much to do other than ßlobbing all over Africa.

>>184258551
Fuck, I wanted to go full Shaka Zulu on the brits and conquer South Africa.

>>184258428
>blobbing
>historical provinces actually extend further in both sides, the West to Greece

"no"

>>184258484
>blobbing into non-aryan land
>aryan and based
t. pan-''''''iranist''''''

>>184258190
If you're going already planning on going for Alexandria you might as well meme it up and fully restore of the Sassanid empire.

>>184258929
but that's literally what I'm doing

>>184258869
All the East belongs to the Aryans you fuck.

>>184259019
Constantinople or bust

>>184259058
That doesn't mean there's aryans there.There's no need to polute your realm with non-aryans.

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>>184259369
Constantinople is trash tho

>>184259378
>not aryanising everyone there

>>184259019
Then conquer all of Egypt not just that meme border

>>184259468
dropped. put on a trip or name so i can filter you.

>>184236572
>Japan
>being afraid of containment wars
>1073 navy
>5th mil
Pussy.

>>184259524
>>184259569
I can't expand further than that because I'll absorb all the undeveloped population and will ruin my goal of 30%+ urbanization

I can and will do it through vassals tho

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Rate. Red is the territory I can claim as lebensraum once I become a GP

>>184258190
pls convert to vicky once you're done with it

>>184259767
Lmao, are you going to gas the patagonians?

Also, can you actually conquer the levant and form proper Israel?

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>>184259767

>>184259767
>borders Santiago and Valparaiso
what the fuck was he thinking

>>184259767
The Tierra del Fuego should NOT be colonizable in 1841 regardless of who colonizes it and should NOT attract that many people

>>184260090
Jews, like cockroaches, can survive in very inhospitable conditions.

>>184254005
just farm rebels for exp mate
experienced general > 2 unexperienced generals

>>184260248
Can I get away with only having one army? Also, any nice starting spots? I want something low-key where I can chill and mostly be peaceful, I tried Switzerland but the AI in this game super aggressive.

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>>184259879
This run is mostly a test run of a personal submod of the Israel submod for HPM. I plan on adding a few decisions and events as flavor for specifically for an Andinian Israel.

>>184259951
They'll be occupied in the 1980's when I need even more space for Jewish settlers.

>>184260090
See >>184260180
Also, I'm trying to figure out how to modify the Jewish return events so that they fire far more often for the northern coast rather than the southern deserts. Haven't found out how to do so yet, though.

How do I become a republic in M&T?

>>184260945
>only 3 conc and 6 mil
>literally killing thousands of people

Kek, it should be 10 conc and 10 mil since you are killing lots of natives in the middle of the 19th century. Also, it shouldn't kill ALL patagonian pops, it should be like the generic genocide decision.

>>184258190
What map mod?

>>184258190
why the fuck is it called the Turkish Empire?

>>184262118
bloat and tejas

>>184262210
In case someone other than the Ottomans creates it.

>>184262216
What

>>184262278
>other turkish states can create and "Empire"

What kind of shit is that? It's not historically accurate. The Ottoman Empire at the start got all of their territories by conquering and not by "liberating" their people. You could say they spent mana to core their originally territory.

>>184262517
They can do it by beating the shit out of everyone the Ottomans beat the shit out of.

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holy fuck

>>184262603
Oh well then it's accurate.

>>184260945
Tell me the province ids and I will do it for you.

>>184262650
Absolutely Based

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>>184258190
Anyway, here's how the AI will think in this invasion if I'm unlucky, or even worse if I'm lucky. The red circles are current level 4 forts in mountains while the blue circles are future forts that will be built soon. By the time their army reach the green lines, they'd already have upwards of 300k in attrition. It's quite easy to win after that

I'm also going to wait until I have a massive stockpile of manpower and cash, along with 3 more military tech so I can upgrade all those forts to level 6. There's no way I can lose this war. Once I wear them down from the attrition they automatically lose every future war with me

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Fuck this game. Playing as Serbia is hell. I never got to claim Greater Serbia. I got that decision that turned Serbia into Yugoslavia. The AH never fell and Russia, my only ally who could do stuff like actually helping me in war imploded and is now shit.

I let the fascist win and went full Hitler (got into massive debts and spent everything on tanks) since I was bored. The frenchies lost the Great War so Germany is now even more powerful.

Someone pls give me some tips on how to properly play as Serbia.

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>>184263490
Also, something interesting happened. The USA lost the Civil War for some reason and the CSA got ALL the USA as a territory, How the fuck did this happened?

Anyway, the Free States of America formed and became an industrial powerhouse, slowly chewing the shitty CSA. Then fucking Canada became a GP holy shit, I wish I could have played as Canada.

>>184263490
If you don't cheat, it's mostly just luck of Austria getting completely destroyed early on and never recovering

>>184235609
white men

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>>184263412
>they manajed to Trojan Horse my entire line by allying with this

FUCK

>>184264312
managed*

>>184261841
There are over 100k Circassian pops at game start, or 400k people, and a majority of them are killed off by Russia by event. Russia gets no infamy or militancy to their main culture pops from it. Meanwhile, there are only around 20k Patagonian pops, so there really shouldn't be much militancy or consciousness gain from it at all. I might tweak it though when I make it so that its more like 90% of the Patagonian pops rather than a full 100%.

>>184264657
You're comparing the benevolent and superior Jewish race to the ones even the typical filthy goyim sees as heartless savages though

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>>184264312
I managed to find a way to fix that

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>>184262958
Here you go. I color coded provinces based on how much immigration I think they would get. Green is the capital, so it would get the most immigration. Red are the flatlands, which would get just a little bit less than the capital. Yellow are the mountains and hills, so they would get slightly less than the flatlands. Finally, blue is Tierra del Fuego, which should get little to no immigration, at least until later on in the century.

Also, if its possible, I need to find a way to split up immigration from large countries like Russia so that they don't flood a single province. In this run, I'm counteracting that by adding a large immigration push modifier to the province that they all migrated to - that may be the only way to do so other than making events specifically for Russia to handle Jewish immigration from them.

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>>184265439
Here's the modifier in question. I'm wondering if maybe the best way to handle immigration is to just have every single Jewish immigrant go to New Jerusalem, and then just have them migrate naturally to the rest of Israel. After, say, 50 years, the modifier could be removed.

>>184252510
NO

>>184265439
>>184265741
You changed the capital?
They will move out anyway so I don't understand why is that necessary.

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>>184260627
>Can I get away with only having one army?
Two are all you need for expansion, for defense one in enough

>Also, any nice starting spots? I want something low-key
Your nation has nothing to do with relations, they are random at each start anyway, just like resources, take what you like

At dealing with the AI
Sometimes they are dicks and gang up on you, just keep in mind that diplomacy in koh is retarded. You can white peace any nation you are at war with in about 2 minutes with a bribe exept when they realy fucking hate you

Or you break the game by abusing the shitty balance. The tactican ability of an marshal gives them the ability to build ridiculously overpowered forts which shoot salves at enemies at the strategic map and on top of that have an defense multiplier up to 250%(!) AND is stackable with other generals talent giving you FUCKING 500% DEF BONUS(!!!!) WHICH IS STACKABLE WITH OTHER TALENTS LIKE FEAR.
Enemies litteraly disband immediately after they touch your fort, fuck cities, FORTS are the way to defend your lands

GSG approved ck2 mod/mods?

>>184267183
Gay of Thrones

>>184267183
dark world

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>>184266464
Yeah, I changed the capital because I didn't like the placement of the red dot representing the capital on the map. If I find out how to move it, I'll change it back to the default IsraelMod capital of 2396.

As for pop movement, they won't actually do it by themselves. Due to the Jewish Farmlands modifier, it's impossible for any farmers to become unemployed and thus want to move.

With the modifier I added, it's started to really spread out the population, and in just a couple of years. I'm really starting to like the idea of just having all Jewish pops come to New Jerusalem, and then naturally migrating to the rest of Israel. It spreads them out pretty evenly among the terrains, with the flatlands getting the bulk of the migrants while Tierra del Fuego gets barely any.

Why does Britain have 60k troops in Canada in HPM.

Explain yourself /gsg/

>>184267489
Epic
Then just do that lad, all you have to do is delete the other province events.

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>>184267183
Geheimnisnacht as based goblin

>>184267183
dark world

>>184267183
A Game of Thrones

>>184268118
>Geheimnisnacht
>>184267892
>>184267878
>>184267257
>>184267276
I'm looking for one that is not some gay fantasy scenario. In other words, i'm not 12.

Just kidding, i want to byzanblob for the 30th time

>>184268413
Got you family.

http://citadel.prophpbb.com/topic13635.html

>>184268413
gas yourself retard

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what is this game

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>>184264312
That can no longer happen while all the forts behind this territory are maxed out. All I need is to integrate it now, upgrade the rest of the forts to level 6 and put a few forts in that area as well, and it becomes impossible to invade me

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Check that HRE.

Also tfw byzantine deathstack appears and takes revolting Lecce. If I quickly take it completely do I get 100% warscore?

Going to try go from my foothold on Africa to spain and remove kebab

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>>184267807
What do you think is the best location of a capital, blue or red? Blue is positioned in a large bay, but has no river, while red has a river, but no bay. The problem with red is that I need to find a way to adjust where the graphic for the city is, since the default location for the city is where the green factory is.

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>>184268823
oh boy its on

>>184269074
wherever the nearest gas chamber is, you kike scum.

>>184269219
are you alright

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>>184269185
Everything's going according to plan so far - his stacks are getting worn down from the siege while I pick up whatever's left of them on the other side

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>>184269074
:^)

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>>184268903

>HRE now at black sea

anyone else experienced weird blobs?

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>>184269785
Just won another battle on a mountain as its taking him too long to reach his split stacks due to forts blocking movement and I reach them in an instant

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>>184270380
And again

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>page 9
dead general dead game dead company

>>184270570
so I just won two more small engagements but since the CB is Sultanate of Rum and the goal is to win combats, I get this massive warscore without even bothering to occupy/lift occupation, so I'm going to keep doing this

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>>184272207
>Sultanate of Rum CB: -60

god I love memes

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aah finally

>>184244890
what mod

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>>184270153

sunni uprising shit.

Gavelkind is fucking my personal troops and new heir so shit stats and vassals dont like me much.

Might lose Tripoli, managed to claim northern sardinia though

>>184270570
OwO that's a small aryan

>>184257373
Is this just a meme mod or is it worth playing?
I love playing Iran in games, especially setting up the god-tier Sassanid borders

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>>184274285

>-1500 gold


How is HRE so big if he is so broke?

Why don't his vassals go independent

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>>184273172
>264k for 2 (two) irrelevant provinces

Would've been the opposite if it wasn't for the EPIC -60 modifier to the peace offer. The irony is that they didn't take any forts either and now I have enough time to establish all the fortifications I need for the next war, plus an army

Overall it was a negative war for me but they got fucked hard as well and are now about to get counter-blobbed by Europe

>>184273849
M&T

>>184274369
It's worth playing but its slightly memetic in its current beta stage. Wait for 2.1 release if you hate memes like this >>184273172

Is it normal in the HPM mod for V2 to have carlist sympathies fire constantly as Spain?

>unironically playing Vic2
>self awareness
pick one.

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>>184274563

kebab gone for now

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>>184274651
speaking of the next war, it's this plus level 6 forts

>>184263490
>"what is this? serbia isn't controlling atleast 90% of GROSSYUGOSLAVIUMS? BETTER FUCK THIS SHIT GAME UP"
there is nothing wrong with your country and if you weren't such an autist you could have enjoyed a nice game.

>>184273172
>>184274651
>loses vastly more men than enemy
>failed to make any significant progress against the enemy
>negative 50 warscore
>still somehow wins the war with none of that changed
MAKES TOTAL SENSE THER BUD

>>184263490
It's a bit rng-based, but usually you want to take a bunch of states from Austria in one fell swoop, rather than one province at a time. The time to do this should be when Italy forms and tries to liberate north italy.

But it looks like you just got fucked by rng this game to be honest, nona. Weak italy and weak russia are the two worst factors you could get.

>>184275219
I mean, to be fair, that tiny thing should barely be worthy of having the tag YUG. That's literally just Serbia.
Other than that, I agree.

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Are Cataphracts a good retinue in HIP?

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>>184275170
holy fuck

>>184275409
Yes, it's retarded. See: >>184273172 , it's a modifier which blocks any peace offer that doesn't have a minimum of 60% warscore in favor of the Ottoman enemy. M&T have to pull their shit together and fix some core features in their mod, the other being the 115% discipline janissaries while discipline-giving effects are nerfed for everyone (i.e its a miracle to even get to 110%)

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R8 my Spanish empire

>>184239395
>Charlemanigga

>>184275692
bretty gud

>>184275657
If the modifier is so shit (and I agree it is), why didn't you just edit it out? It's totally unreasonable for the Ottomans to be able to demand that when they're losing so significantly as they were.

>>184276024
>If the modifier is so shit (and I agree it is), why didn't you just edit it out?
I forgot that I can edit it out, fuck me

brb editing it to -10

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What's going on? I just wanted to dick around in HPM using the scenario editor and this happens.

>>184276214
Go into default.map and remove the ../ from the beginning of the definitions path.

>>184276403
That did it, thanks anon.

>>184276740
Just be sure to add the ../ back before you play the game or else it will crash

>>184244001
Yes, only through events. Except for voting events, those just change what issues they find important.

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>>184275153

was literally besieging syrte and a waldnesian revolt out of nowhere!!!

Going to need mercenaries for these dickheads. Worst timing

>>184245069
>ruling party support
This changes how much they sway from the current government. Ever notice the "loss of government support"? This means they're more likely to vote a different party.

>>184276214
Is there a way to get that working with CKII?

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>>184276095
ok to everyone else wanting to edit it:

M&T mod folder\common\cb_types\turkish_cb_types.txt @ line 95

>>184277575

What other modifiers have you edited?