/mhg/ - Monster Hunter General

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>literally every gook random has the dragon halk when the water halk looks THIS good
why are asians so edgy?

>equip it with the elemental beam skill and its a literal mini plesioth

>>183574364
>playing chink games

>dreadqueen set and deathprize
>stirder set and aerial tripaxe
What are other combos that are the mark of a shitter?

In the MH stories anime, these riders are beating up a whole lot of monsters.

What would you think of riders being added as a weapon class in mainstream?

>>183574649
Slutsets and mandatory sub 5 minute carts.

>>183574649
Using Armor

>>183574649
lodestar/silversol

>>183574649
Not being a speedrunner. Everyone who can't even manage to sub 4 a fucking Rajang is doing something wrong.

your threadly reminder that MHW will have

>20 monsters upon release, 3 of them brought back from the series
>24 armor sets total, at most
>20h of gameplay, no high rank
>3 maps
>$60 base game $80 season pass $19.99 initial on disc DLC that includes palico armor
>$450 worth of DLC by the end of the year, when they re-release the game on a yearly iteration with a complete reset on the progress in terms of content.

>>183574929
He said mark of a shitter, not mark of a good player.

>>183575098
I know.
>using templates
>using your armour as a crutch
If I see you online in not only TA gear but TA gear you couldn't come up with yourself based on your talismans and fine-tuned optimisation, you're going on the list, buddy.

>>183575212
cringe

>>183575063
Upvote

>>183575212
cringe

>>183575027
>Sub 4 Raj
Depends on the weapon, friend.

>>183575292
>>183575458
Can you use a trip already so you can be filtered

Is there some sort of rule of thumb one can follow to decide which kinsect to get? Are they all viable?
I have no interest at all in TA, I don't mind using something that is not the absolute best, I just want to not have a kinsect that is completely terrible.

>>183576393
First you need to say which game.

>>183576007
Why would I deprive you of the ability to see my fun posts? :D

>>183575063
Threadly reminder you'll still day one purchase it at full price.

>>183576545
Gen
I never used IG in 4U. I remember people talking about Bilbotrix as the absolute best bug but I know that's not an option here.

>>183575919
TA times don't get divided by weapon categories anymore, everyone's chasing after the fastest overall times now. So no, it doesn't depend on which weapon.

>>183576851
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8lIfymsfAU

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>>183576393
>>183576851
Why don't you look at the skills that they give on extract and find one that you like?

If you're playing Gen then you can't go wrong with the balance bug Elscarad/Arginesse or the speed 1 bug Grancathar/Bullshroud

>>183576914
They don't?
That sounds like a lie.

>>183576787
thankfully i don't have a ps4 or an xbone

>>183577215
Will you be purchasing it *at a later date?

>>183577321
by then I'll already know it's a piece of shit, and let's be honest, it's going to be a 6 to 8 month down the line for PC release.

>>183577017
>>183576995
That's pretty helpful.
Thank you, anons.

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>that new gameplay footage of HH, SA, LBG and GL

it's.. beautiful..

People are gonna fight over mount spots now
>Hammer/HH will get super pissy because someone else is hogging the head mount point

>>183579172
It's gimmicky trash that won't ever be used because using your bnb combo over and over will be better in every scenario
Flashy garbage is always a DPS loss

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>>183579383

never change, /mhg/

>>183579732
He's right though.
Mounting is a waste of time.
Running around like an idiot after adept dodging is a waste of time.
Flashy, over-the-top hunter arts are almost always a waste of time.

Bog standard poking with your weapon is almost always the best strategy.

>>183579848
This. Simplicity is best, and that's the philosophy MH has lived by even through all the flashy anime garbage they've added.

>>183579916
But World is going back to it's roots and it's just like the classic Monster Hunter games you Nintendie.

>>183579916
Even in XX, the two strongest weapon/style combos in the game are Brave HBG and Brave LS, and neither of them focus on cuh-rayzee nonsense. HBG in particular is "do the standard thing, but faster".

>>183579848
Which is why I combo with GS

>>183580001
>Forgetting AdeptKino GS

>>183579970
Well, it's going back to its roots in that you just use one attack over and over, sure.
But in that sense MH has never left its roots.

>>183579383
>>183579848
>>183579916
t. lance

>>183580001
Brave LS is pretty crazy, should've named Striker Lance instead. It's stronger than LS anyway.

MH was never good.

>>183580546
And now it will

>>183579916
>I want my games to only have 5 moves.

>common complaint about MH4/4U was that mounting was too easy to do, while being too slow to actually be useful and preventing teammates from doing damage to the monster
>mounting now takes even longer, half your moveset triggers it, and the monster goes completely apeshit, ruining any hope your group might have had of fighting it properly

Does Capcom just lack any kind of common sense? What the fuck is this shit?

Man, whoever suggested using Akantor Kingsword with aerial wasn't kidding about it wrecking shit

I mean I know yellow sharpness is probably not helping its damage output any but it still feels like I'm killing shit way faster with this set than with my old aerial GS set

>>183580705
SAY IT WITH ME:
>IT'S OK WHEN WORLD DOES IT!

>>183580705
>the complaint from mh3g was that the 3ds is absolute shit to play mh on
>they still made 4 more games on it
>the people who complained still buy them

See on at launch.

>>183580765
>Will be pirating it :)

>>183580765
I'm not paying for online play lmao

>>183580705
>Now deals 1 damage
So OP.

>>183580927
Source? It also dealth minimal damage before.

>>183581014
Try watching the video. Carving knife strikes deal only 1. A fully charged GS strike dealt 40. A regular GS hit deals 12-20.

>>183581072
But the guy you replied to never said anything about the damge of the knife. It's convenient how you replied to something that doesn't exist. It's also convenient how you forget that you can still attack with your regular weapons while mounted.
Really makes me think.

>>183581072
Successfully completing the mounting action has always been where the real damage happens you muffin.

>>183581072
So why are they showing true raw damage but using multiplied raw for the weapon info?

>>183580749
Yeah, people too stuck on autismo numbers rather than the feel of the individual weapon. Everyone shits on elem gs too, but I'm sick of raw so pulled out my kirin gs for a change and been smashing crab shells and slaughtering mizus since. Changes the whole feel of the fight imo.

>>183581192
That's pretty much one of the two things you can do. How does that make it irrelevant? You either stab it for quicker damage or bother with the slow moving attacks of the main weapon.

>>183581486
So 1 damage with knife, which isn't even super fast will be on par with the damage from main weapons? Can you source me?

>>183580749
If this is in Gen, the Yellow sharpness only really kills you if you're striking with the beginning or the end of the animation. Aerial doesn't suffer from that so badly.
You're welcome, friend.

>>183581453
>Feel of the individual weapon
You're triggering my autism so unbelievably hard right now.
>Everyone shits on elemental GS
Because they're usually inferior. Once in a blue moon they become good.
>Kirin GS
DO NOT
>Tama
DON'T EVER

Kirin GS has way too little raw, and Tama's elemental hitzones are below average even for a 5* monster.

>>183581658
>Spoonfeeding children
>This is my job now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpaQA5tVzQQ&t=490s
Skip to 7:39 when it starts mounting. Make sure your quality isn't shit. Go eat your vegetables.

>>183581715
>>183581787
Shut up, May.

>>183581715
Yeah, though I wonder how it will fare in XX once I get around to playing that

I need to stop doing the A follow up after my jump attacks though, cause that doesn't have innate mind's eye like the draw and jump attacks

>>183581715
Yeah the feel of the individual weapon. You telling me you cant feel the difference between say azure fangblade and dark of night? Kirin gs man, breaks hemitaur shells good. Try it. I was surprised too. Wouldn't run it normally, but its a nice change.

>>183581787
No, I mean the part where the damage from your slow main weapon is same as the damage from the fast knives. Still convenient how you continue to evade people's questions. You must be running Adept.

>>183581956
But the numbers, Anon! The numbers don't lie! Stop using inferior weapons! REEEEEEE!

>>183582035
What? Where the fuck did I say they did the same? Carving strikes are quicker but deal less damage, Main Weapon deals more but is slower. Do you have brain damage?

>>183582104
So what's the reason to use knives over your main weapons?

>>183582152
Don't ask me, I don't know neither.

Why are people so judgemental about using endgame gear? I got some stuff on a glitched quest from some french faggot, and even up to g rank, people just kick me, its so fucking autistic and dumb.
It's not like I'm going to hack their fucking 3DS with my endgame gear.

>>183582152
You have to build up damage using carving knife before you can deal special mounting attack using your weapon.

>>183581869
GS autism post is me, mounting argument is not me. Thanks for playing!

>>183581937
It'll be even better in XX because you get access to green sharpness.

>>183581956
No, I can't feel the difference between them.
>Kirin GS breaks hermitaur shells
Better than other GS maybe, but still very poorly.
>Try it
My advanced stage autism would literally cause my heart to give out.

>>183582069
You're not wrong.

>>183582405
>I got some stuff on a glitched quest from some french faggot
There's no shame in save editing anon. You can admit it to us.

Is there a Linux version of Athenas ass

>>183575063
Where's the source on literally any of that?

>>183582424
Source?

>>183582970
my ass basically, but it's not an unplausible scenario

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>>183574354

>LBG sidestep is now a slide in World

>that feeling when you land your most powerful attack/art right on a monster's face while it's moving around or coming at you for an attack and they get sent flying backwards across the zone
fucking golden

>>183583431
Read the command prompts

Mounting will probably be more worthwhile than before since most weapons seem to have insanely hard hitting attacks now that take a long time to execute. Basically HAs but not tied to any meter.

What are the chances of World being a hit with the normalfag crowd who usually play FIFA and movie games?
Does Capcom have huge expectations of World?
I don't want to upgrade my PC for it if it's just going to be a flop and have online shut down after a year.

>>183584270
Fifa? None. But there's more than one group of normalfags, and that's not the kind they're looking for. Skyrim would be more accurate.

Is there a way to do charged shells with gunlance in brave style? Every time I try he just does a reload

>>183584515
Isn't the FIFA crowd the biggest though? That's where most of the easy milking money is.

>>183584596
>That's where most of the easy milking money is.
No it isn't, because they only play fifa. Can't get milk out of something that isn't a cow.

>>183584270
World only appeals to the Skyrim,Souls, and Zero Horizon Dawn crowd.

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>>183584270
>Does Capcom have huge expectations of World?
No.

>>183584895
So is World going to be like Yakuza 6? A game that's a glorified tech demo that only exists for later installments to build off it?

>>183585125
Pretty sure they said Monster Hunter World will be Monster Hunter 5, not Yakuza 6.

>>183583769
>That feeling when you miss your attack on the monster, but their wild flailing causes them to move into the attack at the last second, causing them to topple out of the air

>>183585125
You mean BoTW?

>>183584270
>can't solo hunt
Casual shitters begone!

>Going solo hunta for World because I don't have a gaming pc and I don't want to pay for + for the only multiplayer game in my library

>>183585879
don't worry you will be able to beat the game in like 20h solo, there's not even high rank

>>183585879
I like you.

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>>183585879
>not gonna play World at all because because toaster and zero money

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>>183586109
>implying village in any mh took longer than 20hrs

>>183586629
>mh1 had 17 total monsters

>>183586109
You mean 4 hours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqD4jqLESjw

deadest general

>>183589856
this is what happens when people get burned out of XX before it's even released on the switch

I love you

>>183591994
I love you too anon.

>>183574748
If by slutsets you mean full kirin, full crab or full zinigger you are correct, if you mean a mixed slut set you are a retard.

>>183581265
Japs need to masturbate over their GS raw.

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>need legend tickets for crit up gems
>brachy arena
>decide to use a weapon I haven't cleared it with yet
>Aerial Gunlance

HOLY SHIT you guys. That was so much fun. I was just fucking around with it, and I got a sub 5 minute clear for the S rank. I really want to get used to the aerial dodge, cause that was CUHRAZY as fuck leaping into the air over an attack, slamming and full blasting from any angle.

Any suggested skills/equipment for an Aerial GL set? I figure there must be a decent Normal shot one for just such a usage. Novice is the only artillery level needed, right? How about Airborne? Considering Load up for even better full blasts.

>>183594654
yes

>>183594654
Kill yourself

>>183594596
I mean, it kind of makes sense. I can at least see where they're coming from. The attack value of a gigantic sword that does more in a single hit than the sword and shield should have a higher value, you know? It's not a DPS meter as much as the attack of the weapon.

>>183594654
Novice is for CB, GL has no cap but you shouldn't use Artillery even if God/Expert stacks with Felyne Bombardier.
Artillery on GL is basically placebo-tier.

>>183594787
>>183594883
What? I'm not planning on using it online, just for solo shenanigans.

>>183594913
>don't use art in the setting about 100% fullbursting

>>183594654
God I love the Rampart Lance tree

We're complaining about World's mounting being extraneous bullshit now? Every moveset in every game had dumb bullshit, where was this ire when mounting was first introduced? This is the exact opposite of
>It's okay when World does it!
This is literally
>It's not okay when World does it even though its existed in some form in every game previous!

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I want to give Miss Cat a big, wet, deep, adult kiss!

>>183596516
Piss off ESL newfag.

>>183595067
Yeah, the slam does more damage.

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>can finally use weapons while mounting
>possible KO damage with blunt weapons
>can focus on harder to reach places with cutting weapons for those annoying carves
>not terribly overpowered where you'll want to abuse it, generally situational
>still not enough information to confirm whether if mounting still functions similarly to Gen/XX or if the more times repeated, the harder it gets or shorter the recovery
Why are people complaining?

>>183597758
Having more to do is bad for some reason

>>183597758
Because mounting is still going to be a DPS loss, and having so many moves trigger mounting just means you're going to be spamming a tiny handful of attacks even more so than in previous games.

>>183596516
Because in previous games, you deliberately had to go out of your way to trigger mounts and thus they were something that could be avoided.
You can't say the same if even something like the SA's phial burst triggers mounts now, and SnS has combo strings specifically for mount spamming.

>>183598790
That's pretty much how any action game works, regardless the genre. I don't know when it's ever viable to use all your moves at least once in a combo. Just do your damage combo, then vault when you feel you need to. Same shit as always. How is this even a criticism.

>>183598926
If you cared about learning from the video instead of shitposting, you'd see that the phial burst does a "mini-mount" or something. YOure on the monster for likea second until you bursty, you dont clamber and you dont do knife strikes. We don't know what the function of this is outside of looking cool.

>>183598790
>all of this is based off footage
>not on actual, hands-on analysis
And even then, it takes about five seconds to cancel a mount? MAJOR DPS LOSS.

World will not have mounting.

>>183599219
?

World will not have DPS

>>183576007
You can filter by post contents, you know. Just filter cringe, seething, sweaty, sweety, bogdanoff and grandpa and you'll eliminate practically all text based shitposting in /mhg/. Harder to catch the furry spammer(s) but since they post the same pictures every day you can filter their specific images.

>>183599613
World won't exist. It's been canceled.

>Gunlance gets mini-SA phial burst
Is the mounted blast in the new footage a SA or Gunlance? If Wyvern Fire isn't inherently stationary anymore, my dick is diamonds.

>>183597758
>Why are people complaining?
I'm trying to figure that out myself. It's like they are just hung up on fu, 3rd, 4u, xxx or whatever the fuck their favorite mh is, and don't want anything to change. Ever. How exactly would /mhg/ improve monster hunter? If mhw is apparently going to be so shit, how would you make it better? Stop fucking complaining and put forward some actual ideas faggots.

>>183579369
>HH getting pissy over the head
lmao. I guess some shitters might with mount points, since part of the reason HH users never complain is that they aren't the third most trippable weapon like hammer is, but the other thing is that HH is kinda shit at KO but great at exhaust so you SHOULDN'T be hitting the head unless you're playing solo or it's the only weakpoint.

>>183582965
Nerds were talking about running it in WINE the other day. I remember one nerd had issues getting it to work but the other nerd helped him figure it out, you will probably be able to find it in the archives by searching relevant terms.

>>183600210
That was SA.

>>183598930
Obviously there's always going to be a bnb combo, but in most well made action games other moves still have their utility and times when they're correct to use. Using the same move over and over again being the optimal strategy is the mark of a poorly made game.

>>183600346
>How exactly would /mhg/ improve monster hunter?
New and better monsters
Actually refine weapon movesets properly, and balance them properly for once
Get rid of all the junk skills nobody ever uses on lategame gear, focus on making as much end game gear as possible useful
New exotic locales that aren't just retreads of existing maps
Less NPC chatter

>>183600346
They think "criticism" just means saying something is shit. People shitting on the game are just complaining to sound smart on the internet, we all know they're going to buy it anyway. No one here plays monhun because its genuinely good series, its because we all have an addiction.

>>183600408
>Using the same move over and over again being the optimal strategy is the mark of a poorly made game.
Like this. Straight up just pulled this out of his ass. All mounting and fancy shit are new moves, so the total usuable moves will stay the same. But for some reason giving more options is bad. Fucking nonsense.

>>183600131
It already was cancelled

>>183600604
Options that are never worth using are not options, they're meaningless fluff.
And no, the total number of usable moves won't stay the same. Look at LS. It was one of the few weapons that used every single attack in its moveset. World meanwhile gets rid of actually useful tools Gen/XX added, and instead gives you an impossible to land jump attack that REMOVES YOUR SPIRIT BUFF.

>>183600802
You dont even know how the game works, how do you know what is or isn't viable? Literally one fucking low level monster is all you've seen.

>>183600920
When have insanely slow, hard to land, situational flashy moves that consume your main resource/boost instantly ever been useful? This shit is just a super AED for LS except it can't melt Gravios

>>183600408
Sadly that is nonetheless traditional Monster Hunter. The only weapons it sort of doesn't apply to are hammer (sometimes uses charging attacks and sometimes combos to adapt to the situation), HH (its attacks have radically different hitboxes, and you have to use certain attacks to play songs) and lance (if you've never used it for any significant amount of time you probably think it's literally just AAAhopAAAhop but I'm pretty sure it's the only weapon with a common use case for EVERY attack or action it has).

>>183601069
Well, then Monster Hunter is shit and there's no saving it. Might as well just let it die.

>>183600598
>Get rid of all the junk skills nobody ever uses on lategame gear
>Less NPC chatter
How about no.

>>183601228
oh yeah I'm sorry we really need more G rank gear with latent power, wide range, partbreaker, negate hunger and speed sharpen

>>183601069
>>183601214
People want to pretend they like MonHun for some objective "purely logical" reason when that's not the case. People play monhun cus it's cool thematically, pretending to actually care about mechanics especially in this poor a manner, niggas need to step their game up is pure sophistry. Like oh I'm supposed to believe some people here are too good for monster hunter, and don't just play the game because the grinding loop is satisfying.

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>>183598926
>>183600210
>phial burst
I've been playing a huge lot of SA but never ever used the burst. Nor the axe hack combo.

>>183601357
I use most of those

>>183601441
Axe hack is good when youre out of phial and need to capitalize on a helpless monster. Burst is fucking bad.

>>183601441
Both of those are staples of brave SA, that style barely ever uses regular sword mode hits

>>183601552
That sounds pretty neat. I always wished sword mode was harder to gain and didn't last as long. Kinda like a GS lv3 charge you can store.

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>>183601412

MH is an experience, and all the repetitiveness, jankiness, shitty balance and general bullshit are a part of its charm. Getting rid of them would be doing the series a disservice.

>>183601962
You heard it here first, folks. World is too good.

>>183601357
Honestly, once I get to endgame I value QoL armor skills more than anything else. I need to use HGE and EE on all my hbg sets, I prioritise them over normal up and AUL because i know I can still kill a monster without extra damage, but carting to an unlucky roar combo is something I'll sacrifice a minute off my hunt times to stop from happening once In a blue moon.

>>183602301
That's why I was specifically referring to actual junk skills, not QoL skills.

>>183600346
>>183600598
>no first gen monsters
>test each specific hunt with each specific weapon and tweak movesets and stats until different weapons are consistently the best at about the same number of different quests; design monsters around making this the case, eg a monster with high elemental and raw resistance that's bigger than a kirin and immune to sleep, just begging to have a gunlance pound its ass
>rework junk skills to make them more useful. make combo skills of junk skills more attainable via decorations and talismans and make more of them (like the bombardier+trapmaster one), and take totally useless skills like ranger and give them additional effects that make them more viable, or simply merge ranger, psychic and capture guru into psychic 2
>talismans are craftable and non-random, you just need enough of the correct rare material and a high enough rank to add points in corresponding skills
>as few slopes as possible, ledges around the edges of the areas but not the centre for the most part, no webbing bullshit
>same amount of NPC chatter but bring back the ability to skip it by pressing B, which is mysteriously absent from XXX
>go through with the 4U localisation team's (axed) plans for tutorial changes, condensing the tutorial period of the game into one longer quest at the beginning and weapon tutorials, work on making tutorials more elegant in general, so that it only takes ~30 minutes to an hour to get into the "real" game
>remove switchaxe

>>183602537
If you cared about pure gameplay, you wouldn't be playing monhun in the first place. There's better action games out there.

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Every one of you faggots is going to play World regardless of how much your complain anyway

>>183602098
No, not at all. I'm glad that World seems to be maintaining all the unpleasantries that make MH MH while introducing a few new ones in the spirit of the franchise, though I'm going to miss things like paintballs wearing off right as a monster flees and chasing it around aimlessly for five minutes.

>>183602692
How is that related in any way to my post, are you retarded?

>>183602708
This. We play MH because we're addicted to the grind, not because of any rational deduction.

>>183602692
That's true these days, but back in the gen 2 days, there really weren't that many games that filled MH's niche of slow, methodical, prediction based gameplay. There's not that much left of that at this point of course, so most people still playing either do so because they got roped into the community, or because they're too attached to the franchise to let go even though the series has both gone to shit, and overstayed its welcome.

>>183602708
I only played gen because somebody pressured me to, which is why I started like five months after everyone else, and I got practically no enjoyment from that one. Not gonna let that happen again, so if World doesn't end up looking good I won't play it. All is as it should be.

If you're actually addicted to the grind you are shit. Most of my time in the series has been spent just hunting random shit that I want to hunt because it's fun, grinding is an impediment to get to that point and thus unwelcome.

>>183602692
>There's better action games out there.
[citation needed]

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>>183602810
>playing video games rationally

>>183602879
There's really not many 3rd person action like MH. And even the ones that do exist are just very poor imitations. I think MH has a ton of design flaws mainly originating from how much the game obscures details from the player and some really poorly designed monster movesets but the actual combat gameplay itself is unrivaled. Almost every weapon plays differently and while the combat may look simple at first glance, it has a ton of complexity to it the more you play it which is the sign of a well designed combat system.

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>>183603143
Probably means pic related, because they're totally comparable. They both have iframes on their dodge rolls, literally the same game except one of them is better.

>>183603218
DMC and Dark Souls push the combat in two different directions while still being in the genre of "little man fight big monster"

>>183603218
The more you play MH the less complex it becomes once you realize how much worthless filler the games have that you never need to concern yourself with and once you realize that monster AI is easily exploitable into walking into your most powerful move over and over.

>>183603337
>totally comparable
DS is filled with rubberbanding and hitboxes worse than MH1's, the difficulty is based around stat distribution being badly done instead of real challenge.

>>183603460
I understand subtext tends to be obfuscated both by nonverbal formats and the reader being autistic, so I'll excuse your failure to pick up on this, but I was being sarcastic.

Is there really any point to cutting vs impact kinsects? A little exhaust damage from impact on head hits seems more useful than miniscule cutting damage on a cutting weapon.

>>183603460
confirmed for not having actually played DS and just buying into the /v/ shitposting

stat allocation is just armor skills by another name

>>183603626
in MH if an armor set is shit you make a new set
in Dark Souls if your stats are shit you make a new character

>>183603337
I love Souls but this MH and Souls comparison never made sense. Souls difficulty stems from level design rather than the actual combat itself (which is incredibly simple with almost no depth). Some of the bosses are nice and challenging but the real difficulty was never just about the bosses unlike MH.

>>183603360
Both of those games have very different goals from Monster Hunter and I'd argue they do a lesser job of fulfilling those goals.

DMC is a stylish action game. It's more about performing combos to juggle an enemy while managing multiple targets than it is about just fighting a single enemy like Monster Hunter. You'll notice that Monster Hunter really isn't about doing combos of any sort.

>>183603337
Dark Souls is also not about just fighting single enemies. Any of the overlap it has with Monster Hunter is done better by Monster Hunter.

Dark Souls' strengths are its overall area design and game design, which are actually things that Monster Hunter is weak on. The combat is good but nowhere near Monster Hunter level.

>>183602537
>no switchaxe
Mcfucking kill yourself.

>>183603609
Blunt kinsects are basically inarguably better, your assessment is correct. The amount of KO applied is non-negligible, and charged shots deal about as much KO as one of hammer's heavy attacks. Of course, if you're using the kinsect like that you're not using the glaive, which is bad, but you can be a huge help if there's another KO weapon going for them (and if you go for the kinsect-only gimmick, you'll start seeing several KOs per hunt because it's literally the most efficient KO weapon besides LBG).

Cutting has some of the prettier bugs (foliacath and elscarad), so it gets aesthetic points (though ladytower and fleetflammer are qts too), and you can still get pretty satisfying moments where you cut the tail of a monster with the kinsect as it tries to fly off and it crashes back into the ground (LBG is better at this too, though). But the more important advantage for cutting is that most of the better glaives, at least in 4U, have cutting bugs, presumably as a deliberate design choice because the devs realised blunt was more useful.

>>183602708
No.
Unless you buy be a good pc or a ps4.

>>183603952
Dark Soul's game design is good? That's news to me. Got any examples? I didn't play past 1 but I always felt it was one of From's weakest series in terms of game design, the visuals are fantastic and it's soulful (no pun intended) but everything else sucks.
Levelling and Upgrading are particularly bad in Souls.

People complaining about weapons not using enough of their moveset are morons who misunderstand the point of MH.

>>183604186
This, less than 4 weapons have moves that are never used.

>>183604182
Define "game design"

It's that time again, /mhg/
>post number decides what weapon you need to learn
>add the last two digits together to discover your fated weapon
>if it is over 15 (14 if 4U), just use your last digit

>1 - SnS
>2 - DB
>3 - GS
>4 - LS
>5 - HAM
>6 - HH
>7 - LANCE
>8 - GL
>9 - SA
>10 - CB
>11 - IG
>12 - LBG
>13 - HBG
>14 - BOW
>15 - PROWLER (if applicable)

>0 - Kicks/Shadowbox only

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>less than 15 hours on Tri save
>been taking my sweet time with it
>already 100% the first three out of five quest tiers, working on the 4th
How did anyone at Capcom think this was okay?

>>183604318
No, my point is that using tons of different moves isn't the point of MH. It's making the best of limited options.

>>183603626
MH Skills in DS are Rings, not Stats.

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>find Khezu annoying as fuck
>try that one Battle School training mission in FU
>pick the Gunlance
>the Khezu can't stand up
>this carries over into every game

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>>183604343
alright

>>183603935
I get it. I mean, my first impression of MH after actually playing it was that the combat was kinda like Dark Souls. But once you get more than a first impression of each game you realise that they are different on such a fundamental level that you really can't compare them at all.

>>183603952
see >>183603570

>>183604343
This gives a huge bias to the first 9 but okay here I go.

Anyway, to get out of this shitposting spiral, I'm looking forward to playing a monhun game that isn't datamined yet. Not knowing what weapons to upgrade, just making al ittle of everything to see what ends up good. Bone > Steel

>>183604776
man i was hoping to get a blade at least now i need to make a new armor set

>>183604776
Anybody have that scan of all the sets of armor from Generations? That Narga huntress does things to my dick.

Objective best 4th gen maps

>Great Sea
>Sunken Hollow
>Classic Everwoods

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>>183604343
>learn
But I can play every weapon ok. Except hammer and guns I'll never play guns

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>>183605024
mine too

them hips

>>183604343
shoot my asshole

>>183604182
>I always felt it was one of From's weakest series in terms of game design, the visuals are fantastic and it's soulful (no pun intended) but everything else sucks.
As someone who loves Souls I agree with this 100% with regards to 1. Careful though, rabid fans of the first (second) game will crucify you even here for even expressing that 1 could do anything wrong or that 2 or 3 could do anything right. Most of them never played Demon's so you can get away with saying whatever you like about that one.

>>183604343
Okay, I'll roll. But if I roll anything but gunlance or prowler it's too late, I've already done it.

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>>183605024
>>183605201
here's the set alone without the white smudges either

>>183604343
Guess I'll roll

How do I make the Hero line weapons show up?
Want to make this: https://mhxxx.kiranico.com/buki/4b959

But even though I have everything it's not unlocked. Is there a villager request quest line I need to finish somewhere?

>>183605262
I just started 2 and I hate it already, it feels like such a 2009 Xbox game, the menus are especially bad, and the granny gloating with the "xd ur gona die!"
Not even one hour in and it's already the only From game I dislike.

>>183605386
Makes me want to play XX just for this armor. Fuck Kirin, Narga and Zinogre are much better armor sets.

>>183605216
oh nom, lance is my worst weapon

time to cry

>>183604343
Gimme good

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>>183605503
Female Narga is where it's at. The only male one I like nearly as much is Barioth X. Straight up Izanagi with a glaive.

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>>183605262
>rolled gunlance
guess it's finally time. Question is, which game should I do it in? And what style if it's XX, kinda iffy about learning brave.

>>183605484
The "tee hee this is the hard meme game!" shit at the beginning is really annoying and the interface is bad, yeah. Graphics aren't great even in the sotfs edition either, by which I mean they're a step backward visually from 1 and demon's. Plus the map design is infamously bad, as in how areas link together compared to 1. But the combat is a big refinement on 1's (apart from ripostes being absolutely fucking stupid in 2) without going into anime supermove bullshit like 3, a lot of the music and atmosphere is still godtier and one of the DLCs' optional bosses is the best boss in the entire franchise (another one is the worst boss in the entire franchise though).

>>183605828
brave gunlance is awesome

So why does the general consensus seem to be that Wide GLs are bad?

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>>183605503
With a good charm and a slotted weapon you could have

>Crit eye +3
>Crit up
>tenderizer
>evasion +2
>evade extender

too bad it got eclipsed by Mr. Mantis in XX

>>183605927
They're just fucking shit for multiplayer.

>>183605930
Having to fight Silverwind makes the set instantly shit tier.

>>183605820
persona dlc in world when

>>183606037
What about for solo play? I'm too much of a coward to play online.

>>183605930
Just transmog lol. Have fun hunting super deviant.

>>183606091
I had fought silverwind so much that he became such a non-issue by the 20th hunt. but yeah his camping shit is annoying

>>183605879
I've played a bit of it, feels like gimmicky shit and while I can see the appeal it doesn't have the same satisfaction to using it that I feel is the main draw of both GL and most of the other brave styles, especially the one everyone seems to love, LS. Thinking I might go alchemy for the scrub tier WF but that still presents the problem that it won't carry over to other games, which is also why I'm strongly considering just doing this in 4U or even 3U.

>>183605927
What I understand is that they're bad for shelling only due to limited ammo and even further reduction on fullburst damage and WF, but if you're just using shells to link combos, they're the only way a shell isn't losing you DPS.

>>183606231
im such a slut for evade extender that i just use it anyway, so its a non-issue

>>183606223
Just as shitty as any other gunlance.

>>183606279
So did I, now I just blacklist into kick people that post it.

>>183603935
I played souls before MH and I agree with you about the level design being a big part of the challenge, but the fun I had with the harder bosses was definitely what made me want to give MH a shot. The games are similar on a superficial level but it was enough to get me to play one because of the other.

In Stories, is there any point to putting extra elemental attacks on monsters or changing their element from an objective perspective (for offline play)? I kind of like having the idea of a kirin or ivory lagi that is purple and uses dragon, but it seems like that would just be severely limiting my damage with dragon compared to jho or stygian while also wasting those monsters' potential.

Of course, it's a no-brainer that online it would be helpful to build a monster to trick your opponent into bringing out a specific kind of monster when you have a strong attack of whatever they're weak to (but not enough to change your monster's colour). But if I wanted to play a game like this competitively I would just play pokemon, which has much deeper and more refined combat anyway.

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>>183604343
lesgo

Ive had MHgen since it came out but I still only play 4U,something about gen feels so wrong.
Is it the framerate? It obviously doesn't run as good for some reason, my nu3DS still only gets 30~ fps on this game.

>>183608484
Framerate, AI differences, general clunkiness, Gen/XX is worse in lots of ways. 4U is still what I would suggest to anyone trying to get into the series for that reason.

I'm only now playing through XX, and it's driving me crazy. Small monsters are 10x more annoying and persistent, and whatever changed in the AI made large monsters leave the area CONSTANTLY. Honestly I can't stand X/XX, but I have to at least play through to the end of G rank.

>>183608484
Framerate, oversized HUD, fov that zooms in a bunch, weapon attack speeds were tweaked (including, iirc, making the two weakest weapons even weaker by slowing them down), gameplay being balanced around and oriented toward the use of limit breaker moves. Gen is a shitshow, XX addresses some of its problems but it still isn't great.

>>183609275
>whatever changed in the AI made large monsters leave the area CONSTANTLY
I think this is deliberate to waste gauges and arts with durations as a balancing feature or something, and it's the most hamfisted horrible design. Of all the shitty things about XXX, it is this that I hate the most.

>>183609527
My wife and I have played MH games all the way through together since it came to 3DS, and because of this fucking area leaving "feature" I can't get her to touch Gen or Double Cross any further than LR. It's infuriating.

Is there a use for wyvernfire shots on a HBG with the limiter removed?
I've been using it whenever i get an opening, but when i do i feel like I'm doing less damage than i would have by not closing the distance/positioning and just unloading a few extra shots instead.

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I just hope we get decent character creating tolls in this, Dragon's Dogma had a pretty nice one back in 2012, and now that some MMOs are stepping up their game when it come to this, I sincerely wish CAPCOM to put some effort into this.

Jesus, even it's some simple sliders it would be good.

>>183611575
Looking cool, same as on gunlance. Does more damage than gunlance does, though. It's also a single burst of damage, so it can be good for taking down charging/flying monsters. Crag and cluster are better for breaking tough parts though iirc.

>>183612097
>tolls

fuck, I meant TOOLS

>>183612249
You fucked up a lot more than that, ESL-kun.

DD characters mostly didn't look great, the tools were pretty limited in that regard. Your character's stature actually affecting your interaction with the environment was cool as fuck though, I don't know of any other videogame that does that.

>>183612484
Vindictus but it was hardly noticable.

>>183612558
Huh. I briefly tried vindictus a few months ago and it seemed like garbage so I dropped it.

>>183612484

yeah, but no excuse for MHW to come with even less options than DD

>>183612097
SCANTILY CLAD LOLI HUNTRESSES
STONG MEATY ONEESAN HUNTRESSES

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>>183612097
Are we posting Dragon's Dogma characters?

>>183613179
Body options don't really fit the arcade style of MH imo, ESPECIALLY if it has gameplay ramifications. I would love to have it, as a semicasual player (I say that but I have ~2500 hours in the series and play at least competently with every weapon, made every G rank armour piece in one of the games (4U), 100% the games, etc; I just don't do TA and spend most of my time joining random rooms and helping out with other people's hunts), but I suspect players either more serious or casual than me would not like that.

>>183613581
>arcade style

Ha ha?

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>>183613339

let's do it

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>>183613339
>taking watermarked screenshots
You don't need to use any shaders with ENB, you know. You can just use its QOL features at no performance cost.

>>183613753
Yes, as in, there is not continuity between quests. Each quest is an isolated "instance" and progression is unlocking more repeatable quests and making gear so you can repeat those quests in different ways or more efficiently. To put it another way, it is a game that lends itself extremely poorly to speedruns and extremely well to time attacks.

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hi where the mhxx rooms :DDD

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>>183613339

It's a fucking shame this game never got a sequel.

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>>183614026
It's been almost a year since I played. If I ever go back to it I'll make sure to remove the watermark, though.

Is it really worth hunting for a perfect prowler in Gen?

>>183614339
Only if you enjoy playing as one (lmao)

>>183614270
I know you're shitposting but if you make one I'll join.

>>183614461
How am I shitposting?
also join nigga

>>183614339
I guess so, because it takes like no effort. Just check in after each quest, you can usually get one within three quests. You'll never use it unless you play prowler (in which case I doubt you'd even be asking), though, so eh.

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How do I get crown on XX?

>>183614978
crownlet (small red crown)= 1 deviant superhunt completed
king of crownlets (green crown)= 10 deviant superhunts completed
cheater crown (big red crown)= 18 deviant superhunts completed

You also need to be at least HR100 to unlock the bloodlust diablos deviant hunts.

Also you must be the one hosting the superhunt to count towards completion :^)))))))))))))))))))))) ENJOY

>>183614606
I'll join too if you're cool with some monte. Don't see any Gathering rooms, though.

>fighting Apex Seregios with Gunlance
Fun.

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>>183615382
>created a local play hub

>>183615607
Impressive.

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>>183615607
>someone joins

>>183615382
waiting for you pham

>>183616449
Whoops. Left on a solo quest, but I'll see if there's still room as soon as I get back. No need to wait.

hyper lagi is such fucking cancer holy fuck.
I'd take a triple deviant super hunt before this bullshit

Why did they have to change how hosting works?
I never had a problem in 3u, 4u, mhg, but in xx its laggy half of the time.

>>183617704
It was doing the teleport boogaloo for me and my attacks kept giving off blue sparks like someone had mounted it even before you reached the area, literally unplayable here. Couldn't really express all that in-hall because the character limit is like four letters.

>>183617992
Works for me when I play XX.
Maybe your internet is the one that sucks or you're just playing with people that have bad internet.

>>183617992
>>183618220
As far as I know (ie what I've been told) in previous iterations the "host" was whoever entered the area with the monster first, and in XX it's whoever is the lobby leader.

>>183617704
Hyper Lagi is one of my least favorite fights in all of monster hunter.

Normal lagi is close behind

>>183619000
In XX it's whoever posts the quest, not the lobby leader. So the chances of bad lag are less rng dependent unlike the previous games.

Doesn't matter who makes the lobby.

>>183619252
>rng dependent

Eh. Only if you count the rng of which area you load into. Gen/XX have way more bullshit with KOing monsters when you don't connect on your screen and such.

>4U
>almost 40 min for delivering just 8 bloodstone solo

>finally run into a quest I can't beat
>get worse and worse each time I attempt it
>finally at the point where I cart not even 2 minutes in

do I kill myself?

>>183621842
What monster?

>>183621842
What was it?

>>183621389
Gathering quests are absolute cancer.

>>183621842
5 bucks its either hyper silverlos or hyper goldian

>>183621884
>>183621904
Grimclaw IX. I didn't have any trouble with him up to this point. But now he's just impossible to deal with for some reason.

>>183622019
Nah, those are easy to cheese with a lost musket set. Takes a long time, but it's possible even solo.

>>183622151
Have you tried using CB? I've always found that CB absolutely trivializes every Tigrex fight.

XX room up
29-0340-1492-1652

>>183622392
CB is the only weapon I have zero experience with, unfortunately. Kind of wanted to pick it up at some point, seems like I'm a little late.

>>183622392
>I've always found that CB absolutely trivializes every fight.
FTFY

>>183622742
Nah. For certain fights, I find CB to be a massive pain because of its long as fuck animations. Especially against Rajang at times where it's hard to even get in a decent counter in with the axe mode.

CB is absolutely great for monsters that charge around a lot though.

Is someone still playing mhgen I need help with prowler arena quest
34-3684-3574-3472

>>183622151
My trick for Grimclaw is to use a deviant weapon, Guild/Striker style with both absolute evades. One of those arts should be usable at all times if you're aggressive enough, so you can evade through its charges.

>>183596758
Sauce

>>183628220
>battleskirt
>tiny wings
I don't like it.

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Remind me again how THIS thing is a "herbivore"???

>>183628368
Ever heard of hippos? They are agressive and dangerous.

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>>183628368

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>>183628368
Remind me again how this thing is a herbivore?

Honestly, that sold and sharp 'crunch' on the Brave LS parry is the best part
It just FEELS good

>>183628368
did you know that real life triceritops were herbivores?

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>>183628368
Herbivore of herbivores

>>183630010
I'll never understand how anyone can play MHE.

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>>183606127
Already confirmed

>>183630121
It's pretty fun and challenging.

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*Stands in your way*

>>183630496
>they picked Ann of all people

Got a DC at the end of that Teo hunt.
I'll join back in a bit if it's still up, if it's not then thanks for the hunts anyways.

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>Herbivore

>>183604343
Okay

>>183630496
>picking second worst girl

>>183633189
>>183631005
>outing yourselves as the kind of degenerates that would play garbage weebshit like persona
>>>/a/
>>>/jp/

>>183632270
What's the problem?
Do you think vegans are pacific bitches?

>>183634236
>play garbage weebshit
Where do you think you are?

>>183634236
Kill yourself.

I know I shouldn't be excited for Dauntless but I am. Nothing really strikes me as a severe red flag but I just know it's going to be bad.

>>183636029
>Nothing really strikes me as a severe red flag
Someone post THE FACE

>>183636029
Shit weapons
Incredibly stiff animations
DiVeRsItY

>>183609783
Your "wife" is a casual trash and is better suited for World.

>>183636571
>Monster Hunter never had dark skinned characters
Back to /v/.

>>183634680
>pacific
assuming you mean pacifistic, yes, they are. Never once met a vegan who wasn't softer than a tootsie roll fruit cup. And if the reason you got so upset is that you actually are one, bad news buddy, you're fucking ten ply.

Which country is the best at MH and why is it Germany?

>>183637131
>Diversity pandering is bad = Brown people are bad
Fuck off

>>183637327
>Which country is the best at _____
Like all things, the answer is America, Fritz. The only thing Germans are better at is self loathing.

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>>183637618

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>>183637143

>>183637618
>American movies are shit
>American """"""""""music""""""""""" is shit
>American literature is shire
>American video games are shit

huh....made me think...

>>183638003
how can that be true when America's entire economy is based around making media

>>183638409
>based around making media
>Only produce bad media
>Amerifats still eat it up
Given what is deserved.

>>183638003
w-we had Charles Ives

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>>183636090

>>183632270

Have you ever seen a fucking hippo fuckig shit up

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G2 stuff on 4u anybody? Please don't one hit monster I want to play too.

>>183638003
Music genres invented by Americans:

>Jazz
>Rock
>Hip-hop
>Blues
>Folk
>Electronic
>Country
>Metal

Genres invented by other countries

>Orchestra
>....

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0EcM8ZDn6A

Is the HH user wearing Blango armor?

>>183639041
Ill help out

>>183638941
Can someone post a webm of a hippo eating a man?

>>183639119
Google Blangonga armor and delete your post.

>>183639138
37-4479-7354-3472
1010

>>183639279
Orange mask and white fur on the helmet

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>>183638941
E-Excuse me?!

What's the easiest way to solo Alatreon in Gen?

>>183639642
2:02, hippo kills a rhino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZkMvdA8NRw

>>183639850
Hippos are no joke. Hippo like monster when?

>>183639850
>Diablos vs. Deviljho

>>183639734
Go for the legs. If you want to beat him in a reasonable time, however, learn how to headsnipe him with GS, Hammer, or CB. If you use CB, I recommend having Load Up. Good luck.

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>>183574364
So do you have Futai (Determination) yet?

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>>183639850
I..I understand now

Herbivores are scary stuff