/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

How essential is learning OOP for beginners?

>>183521032
It's not, but if you intend to use unity you'll need to understand it eventually

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If your character wears panties at all then I'm not buying your game

>>183521032
Just download an engine and follow tutorials.

>>183521032
>oop
>2017
do you want to make a game or something, loser?

No ideaguys beyond this line

_______________________*fart*____

>>183521118
>godot
>not unity
>not unreal
And that's why we will never make it.
Engine wars will kill it before we start.

>>183521126
good thing they don't then

>>183521032
I think every commercial engine is OOP-based.
But don't worry, OOP is very easy.

>>183521032
Non-essential but a lot of frameworks use it. I wouldn't think too hard about designing your stuff around any sort of programming doctrine. Just focus on tools in the language/engine and use them when you want to.

>>183521247
Nice

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>>183521126

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>>183521032
you want to actively avoid it until you have the basics down

>>183521043
Looks cool.

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>Make small Nvidia tweaks
>Rendering-engine performance spikes from 14-20% CPU usage to 0.3-0.4% CPU usage

My game is going to be so easy to run!!

>>183521126
They are wearing Royal Marines uniforms.

>>183521342
>#54

At least they haven't truly given up yet. You only lose when you stop making projects.

>>183521342
Better to have 54 unfinished games than 0 games at all

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The red box now eats light blue boxes!
So far only if they're under it, I have to program the other directions now.

>>183521236
Godot is pretty obviously the best engine to use because
>the game has to be 2D with simple graphics
>the game has to be open source
>the game has to cost nothing for both developers and players
The only question is whether Godot is appropriate for this kind of game or if it'd be better to write a 2D engine from scratch.

>>183521575
54 unfinished games IS 0 games

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How many shaders or shader programs does your game have?

>>183521495
As long as they're not wearing panties underneath those...

>>183521236
Godot is honestly the best choice for a community project. It takes less than a minute for anyone to download, it's free, it's open source, and it works well with version control.

>>183521643
Ok, let me rephrase
Better to have started working on 54 games than 0

>>183521629
>2dstation
>not wanting to make the jump to glorious 3d
And there's the next thing that people are going to bitch about.

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>>183521646
One vertex shader.
One fragment shader.
One shader program.

Want to see my fragment shader, anon?

where are all the godot devs???

>>183521671
They're motherfucking marines, anon. What the fuck do you think?

>>183521646
6 shaders.

I need mechanics
Mechanics for a stealth game
No I don't mean a person who fixes cars or other types of machinery

>>183521892
disco- I mean deving

>>183521794
Don't really see how the game could have even 1/10 the depth in 3D.

What'll really get people arguing is whether we should include poo.

I am trying to decide if I want to make art for a videogame. Is anyone here working on a game, and needing an artist?

>>183521892
hello

>>183521950
You haven't met a lot of marines in your life, have you?

>>183521809
sure

>>183521987
what engine

>>183521032
my first little game didn't use any objects or even arrays at all and was made in a single source file. i don't regret starting out that way because at first i had a really hard time understanding how classes and methods worked.

the best advice i can give you is to just start working on a simple project as soon as possible. you don't need to understand every concept in programming to make a simple game.

>>183521982
>3d
>3 dimensions of space are height, width, depth
>no depth

>>183522039
I deliberately phrased that question in such a way as to make any answer possible.

>>183521972
How many dimensions and what are the themes

>>183521987
I might need an artist, but I'll have to see your portfolio first.

>>183522048
Excuse me?

>>183522125
Oh, didn't know I was interviewing yet ha ha. Well I was hoping to talk about the game I might be working on first.

>>183521982
You're saying there's no depth in Mission-Impossible dropping into the Cap's quarters?
Thermiting the AI from below, causing it to land in disposals?
Pushing the clown down a maintenance shaft, making him go splat like a pie?
Watching the plasma pooling on the floor just above the CO2, trying to climb as high as possible to keep yourself from breathing it in?

>>183522382
I'm telling you no one is going to program that level of depth into a 3D game.
Do YOU want to make 10 different animations for force-feeding somebody shit?

>>183521892
being depressed

where do you guys get your sounds?
The links in the OP are ok but... not enough variety.

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Gonna try this again.
How, in the world, to i load a simple text file in ue4?

If the documentation was correct, this would be how:

FString fileContent;
FString GameDir = FPaths::ConvertRelativePathToFull(FPaths::GameContentDir());
FString CompleteFilePath = GameDir + "text/test.txt";
FFileHelper::LoadFileToString(fileContent, *(CompleteFilePath));

But, lo and behold, even though the file exist at that path (Which i've written out to be sure) it claims there is no such file!
Even:
FPaths::FileExists(*CompleteFilePath)
Tells me it doesn't exist.

The folder text has also been added to the "additional non-content folders to package".
Anyone here who knows UE4 that can tell me if this engine TRULY is this useless or whether i've missed something obvious?

>>183522047
https://ghostbin.com/paste/rv2jpaap

Password is meow

>>183522475
Who needs animations?

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>>183521341
i know right

>>183522373
A waiter doesn't interview the restaurant owner.

>>183522560
Get your phone out, open a sound recording app, and have at it. Find sounds around the place, or make them with your mouth.
Obviously it wont be great quality. But they should be passable at least. And you can always mix them and add effects or whatever with Audacity.

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>>183520941
First for C++

>>183522567
Why not just use C++, anon?

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>>183522475
Actually.

>>183521972
dark environment, cone line of sight, sonar ping for noises, multiple ai behavioral patterns, mission goals

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>>183522874
I'm using C++!

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>>183522782

>>183522830
I was making a light joke but if that's seriously how you feel then I'm fine waiting for someone else

>>183522882
Are you insane? That's c++ code right there.

can you make money off a basic platformer with good art?

>>183522567
I can tell you that the engine is not useless and you've missed something obvious.

I don't know what though

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>>183520941
Reposting since I have a habit of asking for feedback right when the thread dies.

Which jump feels better to you? A (pic-related which is a bit floaty and jumps a little higher), or B (I'll reply to this with a faster/lower jump).

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>>183523070
None of that code is STL C++, anon. It's all Unreal Garbage. Just do this:

#include <string>
#include <fstream>
#include <streambuf>

std::ifstream t("file.txt");
std::string str;

t.seekg(0, std::ios::end);
str.reserve(t.tellg());
t.seekg(0, std::ios::beg);

str.assign((std::istreambuf_iterator<char>(t)),
std::istreambuf_iterator<char>());

>>183523049
You'll be waiting for a long time
Just like the rest of the thread is waiting for you to stop shitposting

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>>183521892
Hey

There actually was a 3D SS13 clone on Steam Greenlight several years ago.
I don't remember what it was called and I have no idea if it ever got released.

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>>183523268
I NEED A C++ VERSION OF THIS MEME RIGHT NOW

>>183521892
Waiting.

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>>183523210
B, faster jump

>>183522831
Good idea actually, I was getting annoyed by trying to record from my laptop (I have nothing for thsi so you can hear the fan in the back and whatnot all the time) but with a phone it should be a lot better.

>shilling his Godot again
You know, normally I'd have tried it but your constant shitposting about it made me hate it instead.

Good job. I'll stick with gamemaker.

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>>183523330
Dwarf station 13 or something?

It never left early access. Devs abandoned it. NO REFUNDS, of course.

>>183523115
please define "good", "make money", and "basic"

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>>183523118
If you know the engine well enough to say its good but don't know how to load a textfile i've got bad news for you.

>>183523241
>Anon is so stupid they don't understand what include is
>Anon still thinks that including string is okay though
>Anon is so stupid they don't know why anon wants to include it in a .pak file, which is different than copy pasting "muh first c++ program"

Whew. Its fine that you are stupid but if you don't know the answer just leave the guy alone.

>>183523459
good = something that looks like professional art.
make money = more than googum games.
basic = basic platformer, not more complex than mario NES games.

>>183523406
>being triggered by someone's engine choice
t. nodev shitposter

Tell me about your language's type system

>>183523406
nobody cares about your autistic faggotry, godot is pure love, no place for hate

>>183523413
>Dwarf station 13 or something?
No, I don't remember the title but it wasn't an obvious reference to SS13.
The Greenlight trailer was first person and showed off some hallways that were very atmospheric but totally empty.

>>183523579
i wouldn't really call smb3 basic

>>183523413
Spacebase DF-9.

Not even for free.

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>>183523471
You don't know how to do something, you come here asking for help to do something, someone tells you how to do something and you laugh at them and insult them?

Wow, you must be fun to have around your mom's house. Fuck you, anon. Good luck never being able to read text files in your shitty videogame project. I hope you fail.

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>>183523406

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>>183522874
>>183523005
>tfw gamedeving in best language

>>183523695
>Spacebase DF-9

My guess was close enough!

>>183523659
You're thinking of Centration, another scam """remake""".

>>183521118
SS13 keeps living because everyone can easily add more stuff on top, the sides, the bottom of the feet and maybe half inside the dysfunctional liver.
Either build an engine that easily plays with plugins, addons and mods, or go with a tool that has documentation available.

Honestly, Godot does sound perfect. Easy scripting language and asset loading for WH40k reference #142 and a backbone with C++ for simulation heavy stuff made by people who know more than dragondrop.

BUT! I am of the strong conviction that any attempts that start with "hey, let's try another remake!" is doomed to fail. Someone has to come forth with a framework that already presents the functionality of the most important systems, i.e. networking, construction, electrical grid, character creation, inventory management, admin functions, chat, jobs, round objectives, minimum of equipment, atmospherics, medbay.
They can be shoddy as all fuck, but you need to get people to a playable state so that they feel like "I bet I could fix this" instead of "I wish someone made this".

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>>183523724
>OOP Furposter is so autistic he can't differentiate 2 posters

Whelp thanks for nailing my point even harder.

Can you even call yourself a gamedev if you're not proficient in C and C++?

>>183523579
try searching steamspy for released platformers and see what comes up.

so you're looking to sell 3k+ copies at $5-10?

it comes down to how good your art is. i'd say merely professional is no longer enough to sell a game on the art alone. you have to have a charming style or be really technically skilled, or have an interesting mechanic.

what's professional quality to you, and are you already skilled enough to achieve it?

>>183523406
gamemaker is unironically a piece of shit so idk where you get off insulting someone else's engine choice lol

>>183521892
Present.

>>183523838
Yes, that was it.
Did it get into early access before being abandoned?

>>183523908
my goal is to draw the sprites on top of a 3D render.

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>>183523904
No!

>>183523848
Kinda makes me wonder why GSS13 failed if it allegedly had construction, atmos and electricity working, which seem like the hardest to code.

>>183523406
>ugh Godot shills, so annoying
>check out this Gamemaker engine instead!
All you engine posters are the same. Fuck off. Next time post video game progress, it's more interesting than your autistic engine wars.

>>183523724
Not the same guy. Calm your tits. But yeah if i wanted to load a raw txt file you could do it even easier than your over-engineered solution, sadly that wasn't what i asked for so no dice.

>>183523659
>>183523413
>>183523330
https://tgstation13.org/wiki/List_of_remakes
>was
>was
>was
>was
>was

>>183523724
Its probably the anime avatarfag that is always having stupid UE4 issues

>>183523692
I mean the first one, not the 3rd.

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Thoughts? Comments?

>>183524003
People paid for it, people played it, people found it sucked, devs vanished.

just WHY aren't you using panda3d?

>>183524007
are you fucking cris? of all the styles you've tried, the only one that has potential to sell is that brown girl wip you kept posting, if you can learn to draw it fast enough

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>>183524248
But I AM using my 3D panda, anon.

>>183523848
>Someone has to come forth with a framework that already presents the functionality of the most important systems, i.e. networking, construction, electrical grid, character creation, inventory management, admin functions, chat, jobs, round objectives, minimum of equipment, atmospherics, medbay.
To be perfectly honest, I'm about to download Godot and see if I can get a basic atmos sim working
I don't know much about the engine though, so I'm not sure how well it supports key features like mods and networking. It should ideally be possible for players to download any necessary assets when logging into a server.

>>183524189

>discord

>>183523330
Centration, maybe? It was dead, made a discord after some months, then died again (I think).

>>183524301
>.gif
Holy shit that's smooth as fuck anon

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>>183524268
I do remember doing this years ago.

>>183524310
Offline atmos sym: no problemo.
Now try syncing it to 100+ players over 10 000 tiles.

t. early day SS13 developer.

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here's the skate girl again, current WIP, moving onto the head soon but looking for any suggestions (besides changing the hand/feet size since the larger extremities are part of the aesthetic and help sell the skating/spraying animations)

>>183524310
word of warning: the scripting is slow so you might want to wait for 3.0 with C# or C++

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oub_7aSzp0Q

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>>183524189
The wings look way too rigid.

>>183524310
>how well it supports key features like mods and networking
You can load assets and themes on runtime.
2.2 onwards has piss-easy networking, but I don't know how well that scales.

>>183522567
>Come to AGDG asking for help
>Expecting any real answers

You must be new here. Everyone here is a scriptkiddie, that's why they use furfag avatars and the like since they never have actually done a real project. Go ask on their answerhub instead.

>>183523241
>Animeposter can't read

What a big suprise.

>>183524443
Extra digits

>>183524442
Actually, that reminds me that I don't know anything about networking.
Is it the kind of thing you have to build into every system from day 1?

>>183524594
If you're talking about networking on atmos scale, then yes.

Simple multiplayer can be an afterthought, but complex stuff llike this needs to be in from the getgo.

>>183524549
what

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>>183524442
>t. early day SS13 developer
I didn't know royalty graces this thread with its presence. Salutations, Sir!
How early are we speaking?

>>183524442
>tfw always was too scared of networking to get into it
>shit like this is a prerequisite for even an exact copy of ss13 and cubes if you try 3d

>>183513234

That's quite dope, Anon. Hope things work out for you.

That Quadrophonia track is nice aswell.

>>183523070
I think he was referring to the C++ standard libraries for I/O

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>>183522090
This is the game.
You play as Little Red Riding Hood. You look for cake slices to bring to your grandma while hiding from and avoiding the wolves.
Here are the mechanics I have/plan to implement
>picking up and throwing items
>wolves interact with items they see on the ground (ie. if they see a cake slice, they'll pick it up and eat it, if they see a stone they'll kick it away)
>hitting a wolf with a stone will stun it temporarily, after which they'll start chasing you down
>different types of wolves with different behaviors (like a wolf that can't see anything but has very good hearing, or a wolf that can't go after you but can alert other wolves)
>areas blocked by little birds: if you get to close, they'll make noise alerting the guards, so you have to throw a stone at them from afar to make the go away first
And in maybe
>find other types of items to exchange for cake slices (ie. find a carrot, bring it to a rabbit in exchange for a cake slice)
I still feel like this is too little and a game like this just won't be fun. I didn't have any big ambition for it, but still I'd like for it to be at least somewhat enjoyable.

>>183524523
>You can load assets and themes on runtime.
Does that include code?

>>183524706
wew, guess I'd better learn networking
Will probably take a look at the BYOND atmos code as well, though I assume some of the important stuff is buried in the engine itself

>>183524759
Early 2000s.

>>183524938
>"""""wolves"""""
>monstergirls
kys

>>183523682
Yes, you can, but it is inherently an OOP framework so you'll be using it anyway even if you don't strictly follow OOP fundamentals.

>>183524938
If all of those features currently work, start building levels with them.
You don't need a million mechanics, you just need to use your mechanics well.

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FUCK your shit, blue boxes!

Pressing action key while facing (yes, the red cube is actually facing a direction) a blue cube kills a static cube object and replaces it with moving cube object.
Static cubes are different from moving because of saving performance from all the collision checking that will be going on.

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>>183520941
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMWLWmOftWo
>ideaguys

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>Unrealbabbies have trouble doing this

>>183524706
Would one actually need to sync the atmos sim to the clients? Wouldn't it be enough to transmit the result, i.e. the force impulses? If the game needed to present data about the atmosphere on a certain tile for example in a PDA scan, it would poll that from the server, but wouldn't need to store it locally, thus preventing simulation desync?

>>183524880
Again alot of people here not getting what he was trying to do and have now probably successfully scared him away.
Good riddance though.

If you use the standard C++ libraries you lose:
Cross platform support
Easy packaging and deployment

Something an actual dev would know.
>Inb4 "hurr enginedev from scratch and spend 2 weeks writing his own packaging software"

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>OOPs in 2017
This is so sad and misguided

>>183525048
Why?

I am willing to contribute to a ss13 remake, just don't put me in charge of administrating the project pls

>>183524953
Any scene is a node(object) plus children that you instantiate. Any node can have a script attached to extend functionality. Scripts can be changed on runtime. Scenes can be loaded at runtime.

>>183523471
I've personally never had to read from a txt file in UE4, there are usually more fancy ways to do whatever might need that.

>>183522567
Just tried it, this works for me with the txt in the main content folder.

FString SaveText;
FString Filename = FPaths::ConvertRelativePathToFull(FPaths::GameContentDir() + "text.txt"); FFileHelper::LoadFileToString(SaveText, *Filename);

>>183524727
An extra finger on each hand

>>183525210
Everything that breathes (so, humans, monkeys, and aliens) needs to know what's in its tile's atmosphere at least several times per second.
It does seem like leaving the server in charge would be the smartest approach, though.

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>>183525201
>AGDG devs avoid answering a dude's question and act smug for not being able to

>>183525305
They look like the only thing that would happen if they caught you is /ll/.

>>183525401
but

she has 4 fingers and a thumb on each

>>183525274
Not really though.
OOP and games feel like they were made for eachother unless you fuck up from the beginning when modelling classes.

>>183525465
Multiple people answered you tho

>>183524443
UNDERSTAND UNDERSTAND

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>blender on the right monitor
>zbrush on the left
get on my level fags

>>183525491
So give her five fingers and a thumb on each, say it makes her better at skating tricks or sth

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>>183525210
By that logic, every tile that comes into view would have to be polled by the client to properly render it. If you have a 100-tile wide viewport, that means you need to fetch 100 separate tiles every time a player moves. With 100 players moving one tile every tick, you have 10 000 get requests to fulfill. Per tick.

>>183525480
They actually want to steal your picnic basket to eat those cake slices. And take away your hood___

>>183525403
>It does seem like leaving the server in charge would be the smartest approach, though.
I have barely any experience, but I read through some primers and the Godot docs. It seems to me that a very authoritative model would come natural, leaving all data and simulation to the server and letting the client deal with presenting / drawing that data?

>>183525628
>using Blender
Why are you asking me to wallow in dirt?

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>Unreal engine
>"Videogames"

Lmao, they can't even do THIS

>>183525550
>it's correct because it's how it's done
>it's how I do it so it feels right

>>183525767
What alternative is there, anon?

>>183525274
Maybe it's because I use an engine and it already does everything for me, but I have never had to do any of that shit on the right side. Also no one should structure their objects like that anyways. OOP doesn't represent evolution.

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In merryo odyssey the blob shadow matches his silhouette pretty closely rather than being a circle like usual. HOW?!

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>>183525572
Again, not me. there are more than one person on here you know.

>>183525392
Nope. Nothing happens on my end, it claims the file is empty (and i checked, it isn't)
Really getting spooked.
Just to be sure, the file is in the Content folder that sits besides the Unreal Engine Project file?

>>183525917
Low-res texture map.

>>183525634
But the server needs to maintain consensus across all clients anyway. Otherwise it would be trivial to cheat.

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>Use "engine" because it makes developing videogames "FASTER"
>Spend two days trying to figure out how to read a text file

C++ devs win again!

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pls help.

>>183525274
>pet object has 4 legs
It's hard to agree with an image when you have something that moronic in it.

>>183525790
Doing hello world c++ level of programming i can do mate, but i want it packaged with the game.
Do you know how to do that or is >>183525465 correct?

>>183526121
If you can't help me its fine. I don't get what sort of fun you guys get out of nogaming and then laughing at the people trying.

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>>183526102
The solution is to sync at room-level instead of at tile-level. Don't tell anyone I told you.

>>183525917
>pretending to be retarded: the post

>>183526149
>eclipse

>>183526121
Win what?

>>183526242
Out of curiosity what do you actually need the text file for?

>>183525987
Its dynamic though? You mean a render to texture?
>>183526251
???

>>183526242
>I want it packaged with the game

#include <string>

struct anonFile
{
static std::string content = "Wow this sure was hard, anon";
};

>>183526361
No, I mean shadow mapping to a low-res texture.

>>183526245
How?
Do you define rooms as immutable sets of tiles while mapping, or do you calculate them dynamically according to what is or is not enclosed?
If the former, won't you get strange behavior if a player builds a wall in the hallway?

>>183523210
Floaty jump might be fun if you could cancel it with a key to land quickly like a ground slam. Fastjump looks like it feels better to control. It's hard to tell this without playing or knowing your end goals.

>>183526353
Parts of the map structure of the game, will be loading my own format in time from an external map-editor i've been using for previous projects.

>>183526365
See above, i can't switch out parts easily like that. Hot-reloading and linking c++ is again a very roundabout solution.
If you can't help its fine just calm down.

>>183526519
Define a room as a collection of tiles geographically linked with the same atmospheric conditions.

A player building a wall, thus sealing off one part of a room, creates a new room with the same atmospheric conditions as the room he sealed it off from.

>>183523210
>>183523379
Make it floaty on the way up and fast on the way down.

>>183526121
>hmm I need to read a text file I wonder how to do it in this engine
>google "how to read text file in X engine"
>learn how to read a text file in less than 2 minutes
Wow, that sure was hard.

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>>183526643
>I want it packed
>I want to swap it without recompiling/repacking

Pick one.

>>183526815
>tweet=negative
>not tweet==negative
what was meant by this

>>183526815
Or he can pick both

>>183526705
So enclosed areas share a single atmospheric state?
Won't that cause gas leaks to immediately diffuse throughout the entire room?
How will it interact with hull breaches, or even open doors between significantly different pressure zones?

>>183525274
I think you're just a bad programmer who doesn't know how to write good OOP code.

So, hold on.
I understand that tile-based atmos (and electricity/disposals?) is going to be slow as shit and should be switched for zones.

But won't players and objects only updating on a per-room basis lead to some really strange behaviour?

>>183524938
need rotating guns

>>183520941
I make music that I feel would fit into dark indie games. If anyone is interested I can help make some music for your games. I've always wanted to do it.

https://darknasty.bandcamp.com/album/singularity

>>183526815
In UE4 recompiling c++ code is different to packaging.
Its fine if you don't know the answer honestly, and your'e anonymous so its not like your reputation get worse or anything.
Just stop replying if you are frustrated by not knowing the answer.

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>>183526960
Welcome to ZAS, AKA zone atmospheric system.

A breach doesn't immediately empty all the air. It slowly levels the two rooms depending on how much of an unsealed border they share until they form a single room.

>>183525270
I thought the C++ standard libraries were cross platform by default?

>>183526960
Pressure equalisation will happen nigh-instantaneously, generating push/throw force in the direction of the pressure gradient.
The end result is disgustingly violent atmos like Bay has.

>>183527120
>transfer rate between two volumes acting on entities in those volumes
Strange how?

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>>183527151
>I don't know how to do things in my environment!!
>It's okay if you have a million ways to do it in yours just stop replying to spare my feefees

Unreal devs on SUICIDE WATCH

Can anyone recommend some low-poly resources that aren't strictly for realistic-looking stuff but less detail or anime?

>>183526251
Eclipse may be the most comfy IDE i've ever used, no joke

>>183527261
>disgustingly violent atmos
*the only fun atmos
Breaches being non-violent is a disgrace.

>>183527275
Well, I understand that gasses can be simplified on a per-room basis, but unless you want your combat to be extra robust you need to make mobs and items update on a per-tile basis.

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>>183523241
>Animeposter tries to be cool by solving an non-existent problem in a roundabout way
>Code is 4x slower than necessary
>Takes up 2-3 times the memory
>Does it in twice the lines of code.
>Keeps replying >>183527324 to the dude for half an hour who's honestly just trying to get help.


Every time.

>>183527167
>ZAS
That's the system Bay12 uses, isn't it?
If I dig up the code, am I going to learn anything, or is it inscrutable nonsense like most of SS13's core systems?

>It slowly levels the two rooms depending on how much of an unsealed border they share until they form a single room.
Well, I was mostly interested in the way pressure behaves; how do you calculate the forces exerted on objects and mobs?
And what about gas leaks, or more specifically open gas canisters? Does this system diffuse them through the room instantly, or does the gas still spread from the source of the leak? I'm not actually sure which is more realistic, but I think spreading from the source of the leak is more interesting gameplay-wise.

>>183526815

>using assignment operator for if statement

>>183527426
Harmless breaches are almost as awful as cold space.
But popgun atmos is so hilariously deadly it's stopped being funny after the second time those chucklefuck greyshits opened the hazard shutters.

>>183527475
I think baycans flood straight away, sadly.

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>Tfw posting on a Martian sandcookie-baking referendum website about the decisions you made while writing an atmospheric simulator fifteen years ago

>>183527463
I'll just ask someone who's an actual dev turns up.
Is this place always this shitty nowadays?

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>>183521126
we good then

>>183527507
>Brian Who
what did you expect

>>183522874
>>183523005
>>183523772
this thread is for capitalists only

>>183527612
the most experienced dev here is googum, the rest are basically amateurs with 1-2 years of experience using unity or gamemaker.

>>183527612
Its always been bad.

>>183527349
Model resource has models from old video games. N64, PS1, DS, etc, all have some nice looking low poly models. It can be helpful to see the wireframe, and UVs and texture of those models.

>>183523241
the STL is absolute trash. one of the worst things about C++

>>183527610
Well, rewrite it.

>>183527475
>I'm not actually sure which is more realistic
I have stood in bathrooms that had a very obvious source.

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idk where to put rockets on these skates, anyone wanna have a whirl at giving me some ideas? maybe paint over the image?

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>>183527734
Yeah, ill just ask somewhere else. Thanks to the guy who actually tried to help.

>>183527602
>cold space
Is there a SS13 server that doesn't do this? Is there one that deals with heat management in that way?

>>183524938
You could turn this into let's play bait with the popular cute game with spooky twist shit. It doesn't look very fun to play right now. Maybe speed up enemies and character movement with added time/score system.

>>183527929
ask /dpt/ they know more about coding than us.

>>183527970
I thought Bay didn't.

>>183527602
>>183527970
What actually happens heat-wise if a living organism is in space with no insulation?
Does it boil alive from solar radiation?

>>183527893
Along the soles, below the ankle, on the outer sides.

>>183527996
The problem is that it's a mystic ue4 issue. Doing it in raw c++ is the first thing you learn so that will probably not help.

>>183527893
on the wheels

>>183528086
It boils from low pressure. Radiation does ugly shit, too.

>>183527893
Make the part between the wheels thicker and have them fold out when in use.

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One final note, before I go kill myself:
The transition from ZAS to per-tile systems is creating a radial system of equalizing rooms with radius-based transition rates.

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thanks for the feedback of the last thread about the UI, I've reduced the size of some things (the top/bottom bars, the feedback on the left side and also the distress/prevent area and text size. Should be better now. And just so we're clear, this only pops when you meet hostile characters.

how come so many model references are from diagonal views, and how come blender only snaps to directly facing certain directions

>>183528137
your solution is asking:

on /dpt/
on some unreal discord.
on reddit.
on stack overflow
on the unreal forums

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You guys are weird

>>183528213
Still too big. Sorry.

>>183528191
Can you elaborate on that before you kick the stool?

>>183528086
Without a space suit, your blood will start to boil very quickly and is more likely to cause your death than asphyxiation.

>>183528072
I dunno. I appreciate their codebase as a player on forked stations, but I once made the mistake to connect to actual Bay. Once.

>>183528303
>tfw I will never make a cute girl laugh
Why do I even try to live

>>183528190
I want to have the rockets always visible

>>183528303
>oh no he posted a LAUGHING WOMAN.gif, this must mean woman is laugh at me!

>>183528369
I've been on Bay for years before getting sick of their shit.
Sadly there's no server with the right balance of autism (read: RP), retardation (read: freedom to be gamey/silly) and degeneracy (read: non-whitelist nonhumans).

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Why do game developing companies always end up hiring women? Their games usually drop in quality shortly after.

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>>183528337
what specifically do you find too big? Keep in mind that you only see the middle area for flashy effects, you're actually locked into place with your opponent while both you and him.

I'm doing another area for the real card matches (encounters that last a few minutes, instead of this scroll thing which last like 20 seconds). In there you only see the board and your decks/cards/etc., no more world stuff.

>>183528540
>>/r9k/

>>183528245
Can you please clarify both of those questions? I don't understand either.

>>183528540
Women can be good visual artists. Programming on the other hand....

>>183528642
>>183528337

>while both you and him.
him* exchange a few rituals.

Damn, but yeah, what bothers you specifically? The size of the scrolls?

>>183528540
Companies can fall for memes too. Look at the open world meme

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>>183528690

Blender can snap to certain views by pressing numpad keys, for example straight on, from the right, etc.

pic related is from diagonal angles

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Learning programming has been so cumbersome, 7 months in I can't make a make a program of my own in C.
At least I already know how to do graphics and sound but fuck this I just want to make games.

>>183528213
Make the heads fit in the purple borders. Try putting the Distress Prevent horizontal fit within purple border. Move the scrolls/cards down so only half of them is visible. Add mouse hover over that expands card view if it looks okay.

>>183528853
its at an angle so you can see the topology better

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>>183527475
If you are interested in the physics of this, I highly recommend the very readable An Introduction To Thermal Physics, by Daniel Schroeder. Well of course you need a slight math background, calculus at least but linear algebra always helps, and not having a teacher will of course make it a bit more difficult, but it's a great text for understanding this stuff from a thermo/statistical mechanics point of view.

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>>183528936
At least you won't have trouble reading a file once you get to gamedevving levels, anon!

>>183528937
>Add mouse hover over that expands card view if it looks okay.
They already do that so it wont be a problem, I'll try to move stuff around to see how it fits, just seems weird to me to shrink the cards/avatars even more since there's not much going on in the middle while you fight your opponent.

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anyone know why my blender export has a different color?

>>183529103
Hahah yeah. Still sucks though, takes so much time before you have something solid so to speak.
Btw, why was your code: >>183523241 made like that?
Tried running it alongside mine, and mine is not only half the lines but also way faster. Any reason why you went such a roundabout way to do it?

>>183528642
>>183528763
I think it's more a layout issue, there are four big zones that do not need to take that much space. No point in seeing the enemy/player's face since it's already on the screen. Once they're past the tutorial, players won't need to know they have to pick a scroll

>>183529312
Lighting?

>>183528853
front, side, and top views are important while modeling. Turn on orthographic view, with numpad 5.
You can also use numpad 2, 4, 6, 8 to rotate the view a bit.

The reason pictures of models are shown at an angle like that is because it's a better way to show off a model.

>>183529312
Could be a billion things. Lighting, material properties, fucking up normal maps, just to name a few.

>>183526539
A ground slam like they have in Borderlands the Pre Sequel would be pretty cool in an arena shooter desu

>>183529345
It avoids string re-allocation, and thus runs in the same amount of time regardless of the size of your file (as long as it fits into memory). Your code probably works line-by-line, making it slower the bigger the file gets.

>>183529103
>At least you won't have trouble reading a file
What do you mean?

>>183529312
Bottom has a better color. Keep it.

>>183529826
Except that is already handled in c++ STL?..
Try it yourself if you don't believe me.

>>183529851
Some anon wanted help with a packaging problem in UE4 and this guy spent 30 minutes making fun of him for not being able to read a file (even though the problem seemed to be unrelated).

Its typical for the nodevs here to be asses. You get used to it.

>>183530224
memcpy() vs for(0->memsize)

Are you coding your game fair and square or you're helping/messing with the player under the hood?

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kek

>>183529312
Probably because that's the colour you've given it. Switch the display methods between rendered, material, texture and solid and see if any of them look like the box at the bottom.

>>183530432
Why is he a facelet?

>>183530432
Niqqua if you creating one of these a day for practice you need to start experimenting more

kek

>>183530432
character creator fucking when

and start modeling bodies pls. an animation style that would probably fit is snapping to keyframes with no interpolation at all, like wizzone does.

>>183525198
whats wrong with this?

>>183530771
if you have to ask you are too far gone

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>>183529247
Here's some concept art for your UI for inspiration.

>>183530824
>can't even put into words what is wrong with it
dismissed

>>183531285
You caught me red handed!

Combat functions completed - an enemy can now track and attack a variety of targets. Improved path finding in a really hacky way that will serve for the moment.

Implemented the groundwork for player controls beyond movement - including attacking.

Some infrastructure changes regarding how the various data structures talk to each other, that was a pain.

5 and a half hours of work today.

>>183531273
>>183529374
thanks guys, I'll work it up

So are all the tutorials for Unreal engine broken?
Even when I copy the code exactly I get compile errors, the simplest fix i've found is to include engine.h

>>183531650
but where is the game

>>183520941
progress posters should really start using a keyword for fast browsing, next OP should add that, going through hundreds of shitposts is just a time sink

>>183531909

shitposters will just add it to their posts

>>183531909
>progress
>.webm

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There's now enemies with AI in the game who fire back, so game is starting to feel like an actual game. I'd even go so far as to say it's starting to become fun to play.

>>183531909
just search for .webm and maybe .gif extensions

>>183531816
Maybe your problem is copying code instead of understanding it

Read the errors

>>183531843
I'd get laughed at if I posted a webm. I don't have enough of a game right now to bother with posting anything.

Also I'm writing everything in python from the ground up, and my graphics are nothing but blocks. BLOCKS.

>>183531909
With 4chanX you can quickly scroll through all the images in the thread.
Of course some will be meme images. But at least you'll get all the progress too.

>>183532057
>reactive instead of predictive AI
Boring.

>>183527463
>code is 4x slower than necessary
only because it's doing unnecessary syncing with C streams.
Toggle sync_with_stdio and try again.

But, you're right, other than that the guy's retarded.

>>183532193
Have to start somewhere anon.

>>183531992
>>183532074
Still images are valid progress too!

>>183532179
>I'd get laughed at if I posted a webm. I don't have enough of a game right now to bother with posting anything.
>Also I'm writing everything in python from the ground up, and my graphics are nothing but blocks. BLOCKS.
So ? You're not alone. (>>183525169)

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>>183532179
I got fanart out of posting a small AI project that had nothing but squares.
Just post it, coward.

>>183521606
Nice anon.

>>183532349
there are far more funny pictures of frogs, wojaks, women and anime in the thread than static progress
if you look for webms you'll get more progress posts than anything else

>>183532179
But I want to see it

>>183532545
>frogs, wojaks, women and anime
the 4 genders

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>>183532395
>>183532401
Christ, fine.

>>183532107
Its not even the code its just the includes
It says the identifiers are undefined and I have the exact same includes as the tutorial

Today I'm going to make a list of the things I need to get done

>>183532639
Wasn't so hard now was it?

What's it about? What does encryption do? Who are you fighting? Is it turn-based? Please tell me there are hotkeys for movement.

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>>183521892
>Following a tutorial
Hello there

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I've been meaning to start a small project that deals with First Person Dungeon Crawler. I've narrowed down the engines I could use to like Unity or maybe RPGMaker with FPLE plugin. Right now I'm leaning heavily on Unity and have done basic shit on it like grid-based movement and trigger event detections. My main concern with Unity is that I have to code all the shit I need for like battle scenes and inventory which RPGmaker already covers. I'm not trying to dodge coding, I can pretty much code shit though not in a professional level.

I'm really confused with what engine I should pursue. If any anons have better suggestions that can implement first-person crawler I'm open for it. I just wanna make graphic assets and shit so I could see what it'll look like prolly shit.

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>>183532727
We can do it. I believe in you.

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>>183528540
Why do /agdg/ threads always end up attracting subhuman scum? These threads usually drop in quality shortly after.

>>183533039
>those shitty physics
lmao

>>183533075
U E 4
U
E
4

>>183533241
>please
Just working with the gravity. Where's ur game?

>>183532938
There are not hotkeys at the moment, but there will be.

I'll keep "what's it about/who are you fighting" until I have a game demo that's a webm. I'm still sorting out how to convert FLV's. It is not turn based.

Encryption is sort of the "health" of the game. When it reaches zero, the target (or you) can be deleted or modified. Encryption can sink to 0 - Max Encryption. RAM is the universal resource. It's used to do every action, from movement to attacking. When you "delete" an enemy, they drop whatever RAM they're holding, plus (Max Encryption + Max RAM)/2.

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>>183533039
>Mac

>>183533402
bro, you wont get good physics for a cartoony platformer if you use realistic rigidbodies as most engines use.

use libgdx bro.

>>183533256
I don't think I want UE4 for this.

>>183533405
>RAM is the universal resource. It's used to do every action, from movement to attacking.
So you could fuck yourself over by moving in circles?
You are really hitting that 90's games feeling.

>>183531816
Yes, actually. There was a significant change in their API around 4.14 or 4.15 release which made it so a lot of methods, which used to be included as part of a header the tutorials assume you're using, are now located in other headers.
I had to make some changes in the modules being used in the ProjectName.Build.cs file. Specifically, adding CoreUObject.
"PublicDependencyModuleNames.AddRange(new string[] { "Core", "CoreUObject", "Engine", "InputCore", "HeadMountedDisplay", "UMG" });"

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>Use game engine to "speed up" videogame development
>Spend five days FIXING a TUTORIAL because THEY broke it

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>>183533112
Let us do it

>>183533610
That was part of the concept. I'm trying to convey the feel of the idea of "hacking" that was part of the public perception around that time with my mechanics.

Yes, you could fuck yourself by moving in circles, but I'm going to fiddle with game balance/costs when I have things more settled. Movement will probably not cost a whole lot.

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>>183533241
>>183533402
Feedbacks!

I am an actual mason, and I'm interested in doing some stonework for a dev here. But first, I just need to know a little about your game.

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>>183533782
>write your own game engine to "speed up" videogame development
>spend five years "implementing" a "rendering system" because there are no tutorials

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>>183533786
FUCK YEAH COME ON!

>>183533782
>Being so obtuse that you have to rely on step-by-step instructions on how to make a game
>Not just skimming the documentation and taking a glance at the source code

>>183533870
>>183533870
better.

>>183533782
youre right we should of spent 5 day drawing rainbow triangel

>>183533039
Kawaii player sprite. Did you make that or is it part of the tutorial?

>>183533912
Hey there. I would like to have a brick and mortar office space to work on my game in.
Do you have a portfolio of previous buildings you've constructed?

How did you guys fall for the /agdg/ meme? What made you pick this community?

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>>183534259
https://opengameart.org/content/arcade-platformer-assets

>>183534420
I can repedeately tell everyone how to make games without making one myself and nobody can call me out on it, because anonimity.

>>183534420
I frequent 4chan. I'm working on a game. Seemed like the place to post.

>>183534405
Uploading as we speak my pal. In the meantime, why don't we talk about your office and architecture preferences?

>>183534420
tigsource is sterile and flaccid
reddit is reddit

>>183534420
people used to make fun fanart and have fun
but there is less of that nowadays