/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

>>183177939
w&b

>>183177898
I'm trying. I would assume that much is obvious.

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lads what's the strat for germany in KR?

what should my production look like and how should I deal with russia and japan?

>>183178010
>>183177676
Context.

>>183177476
>So benefits of plurality for pop chance to join a rebel organization should be higher, if plurality is high, for more "Liberal" rebels and if plurality is low, the chances would be higher for more autocratic rebels.
Yes, as I see it that represents what I think plurality broadly should, which is social openness and willingness to compromise. POPs in societies with high plurality but low opportunity for expression or support will rebel in favor of those things (liberals, socialists, to an extent an-libs), whereas POPs in societies with low plurality--which I think can broadly be referred to as a sate of democratic crisis--will favor restoration of order or glory through the use of a "strong man," IE dictator.

>But in the event I do these changes and plurality falls in autocracies. Wouldn't that make rebels there worthless? The country is already autocratic and has low plurality.
I don't think pluralism should fall in autocracies or dictatorships as much as it should be tempered, with a very slow rise. In nations which are absolutist and have the autocracy NV the growth should be almost negligible even with decent CON, but I don't think it should ever be entirely stopped. The goal for absolutist states should simply be to fight against the rising as best they can.

Similarly, as I see it, it's not the dictatorship's job to reduce plurality through further decisions/events after they've taken power, but to KEEP it down. Dictatorships should almost invariably already be apluralistic from the moment they come to power, because the conditions which precipitate their rise are almost invariably going to be a state which experienced democratic crisis and a loss of pluralism prior to resorting to an authoritarian solution (in in-game terms: events, decisions, revanchism, war losses, etc., which reduce the value). In order to retain order, then, the goal is merely to keep that apluralism, not to pull it down from a high.

>>183177867
I'm working on it. The main problem right now is that the US doesn't encourage soldiers in the south. I will probably have to toy around with pops a bit.

>>183177897
I think they may be representat, yes. But an Alawite tag when we already have Syria?
I don't think it's necessary.

>>183178091
It creates a problem with irredentist borders for italy, but that's about it, I think. If they don't get cores in Postojna, that would at least solve this.

> If you did, would you create a decision to claim the three province Slovenia also known as the Julian March.
Sure.

>>183178364
Yeah the irredentist borders are what is bothering me too, maybe just leave istria as a three province state with fiume, pola, and postojna, since they didn't receive Independence till well the 1990's

>>183178336
I like your thinking, but in that case there should be a way for democracies to lose their pluralism, facilitating democratic crises and subsequent dictatorships. Currently, there's no way for that to happen unless very specific random events fire far more regularly than is really possible. Also, how do communist dictatorships play into it? Are they pluralistic?

>>183178364
How can you switch religions as an unciv? I understand that only non-judaic faiths have the option.

HPMfag here. How do I ensure that the CSA wins as Mexico? They are only starting out with a pathetic 20-25k, and are much more content to siege middle america and fucking die the moment a forty stack comes along than to even try to defend themselves. At full mobilization I have 100-125k, and it's only enough to stave off the inevitable for up to two years. I'm 100% open to someone stepping in and playing as Mexico/the CSA for me as a learning experience. I've been playing for years and I'm fully willing to admit that I'm no pro.

>>183178364
Can you add a decision or something to encourage conversion to the state religion?
I would imagine this would cause militancy and push immigrants

>>183178364
Are you planning on eventually doing something with the Paris Commune?

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Anyway, the states look like this right now. I need to check pops and decide on istria, but they will probably be left in, at least for now.

>>183178336
The problem is, I can't affect growth. I can only take chunks out of it.

>Dictatorships should almost invariably already be apluralistic from the moment they come to power, because the conditions which precipitate their rise are almost invariably going to be a state which experienced democratic crisis and a loss of pluralism prior to resorting to an authoritarian solution
That's the thing, while I agree a rebellion should lower plurality, it shouldn't kill it all. It should reduce it by 50% (though I can't do that, so it will always be a fixed number, probably -30 or -35) and the rest would be brought down by an increase in autocracy. It if starts too low, the initial instability becomes too irrelevant. maybe.

>POPs in societies with high plurality but low opportunity for expression or support will rebel in favor of those things (liberals, socialists, to an extent an-libs), whereas POPs in societies with low plurality--which I think can broadly be referred to as a sate of democratic crisis--will favor restoration of order or glory through the use of a "strong man," IE dictator.
It makes perfect sense, thank you very much for your input in this. I will make it so low plurality (less than 35%) affects autocracy-seeking rebels by making them more likely while high plurality (more than 70%) makes liberal rebels more likely. Between 35 and 70 it would be a neutral zone.

>>183178863
>in that case there should be a way for democracies to lose their pluralism, facilitating democratic crises and subsequent dictatorships.
Right, which is my concern with this. Democracies should lose pluralism through revanchism certainly, and if they have the Autocracy NV they should gain it more slowly, but the other situations where pluralism should be lost are probably either difficult or potentially even impossible to implement (obviously HPM would know more about it than I do). Labor unrest should be a major one, to represent draws to both fascism and communism, but how could that be modeled? Lost wars should of course also factor in, but that could be abused by players to keep a state's plurality artificially low, which directly impacts their research points. Plurality loss on scandals, party scandals, dismantlement, and yellow journalism would also need to be implemented or their values increased, as well. And that's not even considering other factors which I'm invariably missing.

>Also, how do communist dictatorships play into it? Are they pluralistic?
All dictatorships should be apluralistic, but I think communist and anarcho-liberal rebels should have a slight benefit to rising chance from high plurality (or say rather that it doesn't dissipate entirely). All extremist ideologies should have their greatest support at very low levels of plurality, however, with fascists and reactionaries gaining a larger boost than communists, who should still have their largest draw at minimum plurality, but less total added benefit than fascists/reactionaries, based simply upon communism's ostensible internationalism, brotherly unity, etc. It's difficult to advocate that easily in apluralistic conditions, and so the main risk for a nation to fall to communism should remain conditions in the nation itself, although since communism has benefits to rising chance at higher plurality than other extremist ideologies do, it's still a threat at all pluralities.

>>183179521
Bellissimo

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Friuli isn't as useless as I thought it would be, about the same as Tirol. Emilia Romagna and Venetia now both have almost half a million pops each.

>>183179020
I'd need a better and way more specific reason for that.

>>183179328
Flavor, probably. A tag is unlikely.

>>183179010
Through a decision to request missionaries.

>>183179521
do you still plan to do Meuse borders at some point?

Germany has no way to neuter france currently without it looking hideous,

>>183179521
>The problem is, I can't affect growth. I can only take chunks out of it.
Ah, now that is a problem. So you wouldn't be able to include passive reductions scaled to revanchism? If so I truly wonder how extensive and perhaps even process-intensive a rework on this scale would need to be. Probably too much to bother with, even though I think it is more realistic.

>That's the thing, while I agree a rebellion should lower plurality, it shouldn't kill it all.
I don't mean it like that, I mean that, for rebels to rise in sufficient numbers to be successful, the dictatorship should have already been undergoing a crisis of democracy when it was a democracy, and should already have low plurality from beforehand. A dictatorship which is formed in conditions of high plurality should be just as unstable as if a republic is formed in conditions of low plurality.

That said, since you can only take chunks out, I suppose that's something of a moot point. Although I think that plurality should perhaps not be the currency required for totalitarian decisions, but instead a reduction of plurality is the reward for increasing totalitarianism; plurality should still be a threat to the dictatorship and shouldn't be very easily wiped away. Apluralism should be a pre-coup prerequisite for a dictatorship which is stable from the moment it's established, otherwise it will need to go through a long period of struggle on the path to totalitarianism.

>It makes perfect sense, thank you very much for your input in this.
Very welcome. See >>183179625 for further thoughts if you're interested, although to be fair now I think it's probably impossible to model plurality as I think would really need to be modeled to pull off everything perfectly.

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It's being difficult to be a great power in this campaign. But as I got a neat flag, it boosts the morale of chink hordes to achieve pic related for Chinksraum

I don't know if it is about coding of the game, Viets became like %30 of the population in the states that I didn't own at the begininng of the game. I even managed to get 1% bureaucrat to make that part of Guanxi a state. I don't observe such behaviour with European pops, I wonder if it is hardcoded somehow.

>>183179876
Well the most obvious would be those who enact the islamic law decision or whatever it is. Historically and within the timeframe of the game conversion to the islamic state religion allowed less taxes and was thus encouraged, I also think a level of militancy and perhaps an associated event that decreases non-state religion pops by a little bit can be used to simulate pogroms associated with this anti-heretic environment. An encourage pogrom decision for all absolute monarchies should act against a specific religion like the genocide decision and then cause a decrease in pops, small level of conversion and immigration push in effected regions due to the religious violence

I'd also like to see a decision or maybe a slider or something to pay to encourage christian missionaries in colonial states, with higher efficiency on animists, then buddhists, then hindus. Jews and muslims would be exempt from this. I know missionaries can be encouraged but just in foreign countries and it doesn't have the same effect.
Within the timeframe of the game entire ethnic groups have had significant christian minorities develop through foreign occupation and missionary work

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>>183179876
>Flavor
>HPM is an americunt
:(

>>183180527
Why no west Malaysia?

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calll the cops idgaf

>>183179876
Hello, HPM, as you know in the game by the end the pops are 10% conservative, 40% liberal, 40% sofialist, and 10% other, I respectfully request you make farmer pops much more inherently conservative so this doesn't happen, it's frankly unbelievable traditional conservatism is dead by 1936.

Also, aristocrats liberal and socialist tendencies should be ENTIRELY removed, for one because the appointed upper house reform rests upon these pops being more conservative/reactionary than their counterparts, but more importantly because it simply does not make sense to have commie aristocrats.

And I don't just mean change 0.9 to 0.8, I mean change it to 0.5, if not lower.

Please don't fight me over this, laddo, I've not been well.

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>>183180719
It seemed as too much of a mess, but since now Brits control all of it I think I will also include it. USA went berserk in a way I have never seen before in this game. Hope they won't try to install democracy to my rice fields.

>>183180857
Farmers were socialists back then. Don't reflect modern politics to the past.

>>183178887
HPM said there's a new version coming out soon because he found a bug in the rebel files :^)

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>>183179521
Can you please for the love of God remove that little benis in Transnistria?It makes borders horrendous and I doubt it's historical

>>183180957
No but your southern half needs to rise up and btfo the commies

>>183181102
Yes, farmers desperately wanted their goods and trade taxed and regulated.

They're more socialist today because today they want subsidies, back then they just wanted to be left alone to sell their produce.

>>183180857
>aristocrats liberal and socialist tendencies should be ENTIRELY removed
I completely disagree. Aristocrats weren't just some monolithic hivemind of conservatism, some aristocrats irl wanted greater political rights and social reform.

>>183181225
Also, whilst we're on the subject, fis the borders of the green state north of it so both grossgermaniums and gross romaniums can be pretty.

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>>183179521
>>183181225
Here's a picture for reference.Definitely not historical.

>>183181438
>whilst
t. shakespeare

>>183181536
It looks like Romania is opening its mouth while Ungarn is taking a shit into his mouth.

>>183181354
Okay, I didn't actually mean entirely, and yes, I know there were handfuls of socially and politically "revolutionaries" such as Barnardo, but I would argue this is better represented by the capitalist pop. When I think of aristocrats I think of manors, castles, indentured servants, millenia of tradition, not humanitarians. Like I said, I believe the "benevolent philanthropist" is the capitalist, not the aristocrat.

>>183180857
>>183181102
Farmers should start much more reactionary and conservative, with a quite low percentage of liberal tendencies.

>>183181672
It's commonly used in my country, for I am an ANGLO

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Should probably count from a different artillery amount.
At least I don't tend to have full combat width of artillery as soon as I hit mil tech 7.

With full combat width of artillery, Leader Shock is better at mil techs.0-8, 11-12.
While Leader Fire is better for the rest.

>>183181696
Yet another reason for Transilvania to remain Romanian

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R8 my German blob.
White people are truly the most superior race on this planet, All other races are inferior to whites.

>>183182228
>Doing the release minors trick
0/10 do this with max infamy

>>183182326
>release minors trick
?

>>183182228
truly germanic and glorious

>>183182380
Considering your infamy is under 25 and you have one province German nations that will petition for annexation after awhile, I'm saying you are using the release opm for free infamy trick

>>183179876
>I'd need a better and way more specific reason for that.
Not him but I 100% support anything that can make the Heavenly Kingdom have more than 1% christians.

>>183182228
kys irl

>>183177939
white men

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And I need to decide if reactionary rebels break alliances on win or not. NNM thinks "no, they shouldn't" while vanilla says "yes, they should".
Anyway, thanks for everyone who helped with this. I need to go for a while.

>>183181225
Sure.

>>183180589
The islamic law decision doesn't exist anymore, and the whole thing was a mistake. Especially considering the Dhimmi have protection, though it wasn't always enforced.

In any case, moralism provides a bonus to conversion, so you can pick a party with that.

Only animists can be trully converted if there's not a pop of the same culture in the same province.

>>183180339
>So you wouldn't be able to include passive reductions scaled to revanchism?
No.
For some bizarre reason Paradox never implemented the functionality for it to work like a modifier, hence why it will be taken out in chunks.

>plurality should still be a threat to the dictatorship and shouldn't be very easily wiped away
I do agree with you, the problem is how to wipe it. Events? Decisions? Probably events.

I can't do everything perfectly since it can't work like a modifier, but plurality will still play a big role when differentiating democratic from autocratic regimes, hopefully.

>>183183235
See
>>183180857

>>183183235
When you're changing pops what files are you rewriting?

>>183183235
How come Brazil gets a decision to claim Cisplatina when they can do that through conventional war but Germany don't get a decision to create a protectorste in Bohemia because they can do that in conventional war?

>>183183494
The pop files you dummie

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>>183183407
Farmers are all for subsidies and big government, it protects them from crop failure or over production. The bed of American socialism were farmer's parties out west.

>>183183407
Also, Vicky's conservatives are literally just the old guard of Europe. They're platform was "keep the status quo". They were mostly gone by the thirties and were replaced by social democrats and centre-right pro-business parties in Europe.

>>183183551
Because one is historical irredentism and the other is to fit your specific blobbling conditions

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>>183183770
Don't dignify the revisionist with rebuttal. BASED FARMERS ARE ACHUELY PRONE TO FASCIST 7:10

i'm a cia plant and you're all on a watchlist

>>183184113
i'm not american so suck my dick

>>183183235
Reactionary rebels shouldn't break alliances, even if they form a monarchy from a republic.

Reactionaries are keen on keeping allies since they want to keep their regime. There are some exceptions, like Boxers or russian reactionaries.

Communist. fascists and the rest break alliances because of "muh proletariat/race/state/rights" thing.

>>183184113
I'm behind 7 favelas tho

>>183184179
CIA isn't just domestic lad. Its the FBI you needn't give a fuck about.

Are you planning on making it so that religion actually means something in Vicky 2, HPM? I feel like there's a lot you can do with that.

>>183184368
oh shit i'm sorry then

>>183184008
Aah, I see, you're right. Germany has never historically taken the Czech lands,

>>183177939
white men

>>183184427
Right.Glad you understand.

>>183184091
fascism is a form of socialism and left-wing, they are against the free market

>>183184641
It's not socialism. Fascism relies on a big business to support their rule. See Hitler and Mussolini for examples. The only thing in common is the desire for a bigger state.

>>183183770
It's different from one country to the other but they should definitely be the most conservative/reactionary pops at the start everywhere.

>>183184920
At the start, yeah. And they are.

>>183183235
>trully
lmao check out this tardlet spic

>>183184920
Apart from aristocrats of course.

>>183185065
As I've said, it historically differed from one country to the other (still does). There's probably no way to make it so certain ideology events don't pop us as often in one country than in another, though.

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AY PAPI!

>>183179014
Just try to involve the UK into it, they will at the very least distract the US and the yankee brigades will be decimated while they siege down all those tundra provinces.

>>183185195
sorry alex that was too meanspirited I actually really enjoy ur mod please come back i love you

>>183184423
Sorry for what?

>>183185718
I'm already allied to the UK, but intervening via influence makes the CSA the warleader. I could try waiting for them to call me, but the AI is ridiculously shy about it for some reason.

>>183185709
If I remember correctly those western troops will blow you the fuck out. Beware of the eternal Castilian.

>>183185718
Oh, apparently being called in normally doesn't make a difference. The CSA has three military score and still won't let me be war leader.

>>183185947
I don't doubt it, can't wait to westernise.

>>183186809
Is there anyway you can bring your troops to mountain provinces (the appalachians maybe), dig down and kill the yankees there?

>>183186978
I'll try it, but won't they just overrun everywhere else?

>>183187184
You will slow them down, the AI will freak out and send half their army towards you. If you've seen AI Germany fight France and Poland you'll see that they split their army despite Poland being much weaker and easier to hold off.

>>183185709
>1492
Scared

>>183186974
>>183185947
>westernised troops actually beating non westernised troop
EU3 is a relic of it's time.

whhere can I download vicky2 mods? Like concert of europe?

How will Victoria III handle westernisation without triggering their SJW audience?

>>183188574
Paradox doesn't really given to that stuff that often though.

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Anyhow I'm back in burgerland now, although it'll be another week or so before I'm actually home again. In the meantime I don't have much to do, so I've been playing HIP (although my laptop runs it like trash) to try to get a feel for what rules I'd like to use in my run. Obviously a lot of this is subject to change and I'll need to do another test run before any potential AAR could begin, but this is giving me some ideas about what to do and how the game performs under certain conditions. Lowered demesne value, for example, doesn't actually seem to make realms weaker; if anything, it's kept everything far more stable, at least seemingly.

In this game I've personally killed 4 Caliphs, there have been 5 Caliphate regencies for underage heirs, the current Caliph is 1000 in debt with 4 loans, and I've beaten him in both an offensive and defensive war, yet he has no serious rebellions. I suspect this is because the AI is giving out land to fewer rulers but creating higher-level titles for them, since land can't so easily be concentrated in individuals, leading to a loyal base of rulers who never feel the need to rebel. This is just assumption on my part, but as historical as a 50% demesne value would be, it seems like it behaves poorly with the game's mechanics.

Another example is the Byzantine Empire, which at one point had a Muslim heir that was underage. That heir not only successfully took control of the Empire despite major rebellions, but he held it together and converted most of it besides. I was forced to place a Armenian Paulician claimant on the throne in order to finally end the Islamic push into Europe, and now the Empire is about 50% Islamic, 20% Orthodox, 20% Iconoclast, and 10% Paulician, yet is still holding together just fine. Entirely unreasonable, and I have to hope that it's the demesne setting which is responsible for it.

>>183188574
speaking as one of them ebil sjws, literally just rename uncivilized to non-westernized or something. Not like it'll matter, everyone will still call them uncivs anyway.

>>183189047
>>183189074
This isn't your general, lads.

Leftypol

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It's coming, province by province, hold me!

I really like the Chalcedonian mechanic, expanded heresies, and trade routes in CK2+, but everything else seems better in HIP

Which one should I pick?

>>183189570
About to start my first Heavenly Kingdom game ever in HPM.
Any last words before I inevitably kill myself?

>>183189054
If you do use HIP for the AAR, can you please use the english version?

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>>183189759
Maybe it's not so bad.

>>183189891
Didn't mean to quote anyone btw

>>183189938
No, I like the localized version. Although I need to be more consistent in my usage of language the next time around, because last time I was very indecisive about when to use the local language term or the English equivalent.

>>183189759
did the AI do that? How?
>>183189891
It's not actually that hard. All you need to do is (as qing) only build soldiers in pops that have Taiping cores. Then, when the rebellion hits, Qing will have no army.
You still shouldn't do it tho, china is fucking boring.

>>183190053
C U T E
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>>183190053
How did the eternal latins accomplish this?

>>183189938
i like it, so fuck you

>>183189891
Don't do >>183190176 instead build segregated armies so Taiping core and Qing do not mix to make it an actual challenge

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>>183190176
>>183190396

No idea, I just saw the AI COLONIZE everything.

>>183190176
The plan was to genocide by religion every 5 years.
What should I play then? Hyderabad > India?

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When would you start going for full combat width with artillery in eu4?

Here's a list what single regiments of each type deal in damage for each tech level.

Tech 25 and 26 artillery regiments from backrow deal more damage than cavalry regiments.

The art also has the added benefit of protecting the units in front of them as well.
Thinking a minimum of artillery for full siege bonus at least.
Then full combat width of artillery since at least tech 25, but probably earlier than that.

>>183190528
clever

>>183190486
Where's your Artist advisor?

>>183177939
White Men

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>>183182952

>>183190591
>The plan was to genocide by religion every 5 years.
Jesus christ don't do that, you'll leave your country with no pops.
>what should I do instead
Literally any unciv that doesn't have a Chinese primary culture. For some reason rpoints via conquest were turned off for china in HPM, which means that you literally just sit around and wait a million years until you finally get to press the china wins button. (And then you explode into warlord states because fuck you that's why.)

>>183189047
Compare EU4 tech groups at launch to now

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>>183190836
The artists disappeared.

>>183191017
EU4 seems to be the only one that does get hit though.

>>183190591
>Hyderabad > India?
Never played Hyderabad, but Mughals is very easy.There's a decision which gives you thousands of RP and all of your cores, you can westernize by 1857 and beat the brits only a few years later.

>I like the localized version
eat shit cunt

>>183191060
Create one with your cultural tradition.

You need 1 artist advisor at all times.
And Patron of Arts idea

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>Defensive War
Is this some kind of joke?

>>183190428
t. Basileia Al-Magyarsqazarslagizakhia

>>183191148
because EU4 is the only one where it is relevant and during the political correctness era, paradox have taken the dildo up to the hilt

>>183191283
they'll never expect it that's the thing

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To be honest, the only "real" reason to play Victoria 2 is to genocide inferior subhumans and repopulate their land with aryan supermen.

>>183191181
If you don't like it, make an AAR of your own, or just don't read mine. It's a struggle to even get the motivation to finish an AAR sometimes, and I'm certainly not going to disable an option that I enjoy which helps keep me focused and interested in the game simply because you don't like it.

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>>183191552
Lmao.

>>183191283
I'm giving Wales my spirit

>>183191748
>not just calling him a faggot and telling him to shut the fuck up

>>183191694
Please, tell me you are the same guy who sperged out over losing ottomanism

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>>183191694
Entire empire, for reference.

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>>183191937
Absolutely. I had originally intended to not have to genocide the Azerbaijanis, Albanians, and Bosniaks, as I wanted all of my European territories to be 100% non white, but that wasn't possible.

Still, 90%+ Turkish isn't too bad.

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>>183191806
Stay Strong little Wales.

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>>183192224
And here's pop density in the empire. As you can see, everywhere except the Turkish homeland in Anatolia is entirely depopulated, with many provinces having less than a thousand people.

>>183192224
Absolutely BASED, glad it all worked out in the end.
>>183192462
what's Cairo like, for reference?

>>183192462
And the next step in my master plan, shutting down all factories in anatolia, to force the turks to go settle the non Turkish states.

>>183192462
>population: 4.8M people
im playing as egypt right now and have 5.7M population. being turkish is a mental illness

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>>183192756
Forgot image.
>>183192697
Attached Cairo's pops to that image, after the next genocide it will hopefully be Turkish majority
>>183192854
I'm not actually a t. urk, I just don't play to win, I play to gas people.

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>>183192756
>>183193059
It's working, sort of. A lot of the Turks are retarded and migrating to the other states with no factories, but some of them are realising it's their destiny to colonise.

>>183193398
why are there so many rebels in italy

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Any way to get rid of this?

>>183191158
Really? I'm playing as them right now and I don't see any decisions like that. When does it pop up?

how do i enable the balkan and turkish populations exchange decision in hpm
i can't read all the requirements

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>>183193398
Aah, they're figuring it out. This is the true legacy of the Turkish people.
>>183193521
Mussolini is meming them, and they're a presidential dictatorship.

>>183193565
Jihad against the British.I took it and gained all my cores, independence and a bunch of RP.Not sure if it always works like that, as the title/desc might imply it's Britain's choice.I'll check the files.

someone tell me who to play in ck2
no memes. i want something historically plausible but not boring.

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is this redpilled


>>183193568
Kill yourself, the balkans are rightfully Turkish. 1000 centro

>>183193892
germany

>>183193742
>>183193565
Yeah, Britain decides it but they never refuse it if the mughals are a player.

>>183193892
Celtic Union as Scotland, Ireland or Brittany?

>>183193742
Huh. Nice.

>>183194014
but i want to send the turks back home

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Persia is getting t. urked as fuck.

>declares jihad against britain
>they give me all my land back
>then they sends me an alliance offer
really makes you think

>>183194360
>Turkish Socialist Republic
>opressing cultural minorities across Europe, Asia and Africa

Release puppets you faggot

>>183193568
Basically you need Mass Politics and the turks have to own Thrake and Asia Minor

>>183194546
TURKISH socialist republic not TURKISH AND SOME MINORITIES

>>183194574
okay
thanks anon

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>>183191694
>>183191974
>>183192224
>>183192462
>>183193059
>>183193398
>>183193659
>>183194014
>>183194360
>communist
>gassing everyone rather than just by religion
>not utilizing Islamic Law to do most of the work for you so that you don't completely tank your life rating
Absolutely disgusting

>>183183235
Commies and fascists rebels should break alliances. As you have said before, these are radical ideologies.

>>183194656
More reasons to release puppets then, everything that's not 100% Turk outside the borders

>>183194360
Should've conquered the rest of Arabia instead of random desert land in Africa tbcvqah
>>183194546
Uh, sorry but Ottomanism dies with the Ottoman empire, they wouldn't accept being ruled by turks :^)

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>>183194546
I did, there's a Kurish homeland in Ardalan, see?
>>183194712
Why would I let inferior Persians, Arabs, and Serbs live?

>>183194793
based cuckbro

>>183194712
>>not utilizing Islamic Law to do most of the work for you so that you don't completely tank your life rating
Hard to do that when it was removed from the game.

>>183194825
I thought I could release an Arab puppet, but apparently not.
And that land was free, I colonised it.

>>183194992
This is the old patch, but comtards can't do it anyway.

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the plan

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I haven't seen this meme before but desu I don't think I like it

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>>183195181
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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There's no chance I'll get Manchu'd.
Qing get out.

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>>183194892
>inferior
>gave you your religion and culture

>>183195143
Drop Bulgaria and instead get the rest of Syria and Iraq

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It's a damned shame I can't target Greece for immigration, just 300 Turks would make this province majority Turkish and make the map look better.
>>183195352
Muhammed was a Turk.

>>183195352
>religion
those commies are atheists, I'm pretty sure.
>culture
that would be the mongols

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>>183194712
>>183194892
>>183195143
REEEEE TURKROACHES GET OUT OF MY THREAD THIS IS A STRICTLY HELLENIC GENERAL

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>>183195543

>>183195727
HELLAS

>>183195478
Don't genocided provinces get a negative bonus to immigration?You should've waited until they ran out so the turks won't keep moving between non-geno provinces

HPM, why the generic North Caucasian culture still exists? At this point it only represents Ossetians and Abkhazians.

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>>183195727
>tfw turks are allowed to shoot wild greeks to death in macedonia

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>>183195906
THANK YOU LAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's why the t. *rks have only been emigrating to certain provinces, the random ones that didn't get the genocide modifier.

When it wears off I'm going to close the Anatolian factories and unleash the Turkish seed all over the empire.

>>183189054
Have you come up with any ideas on who you will be playing as in the campaign?

>>183193537
invade japan

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This is THE most aesthetic flag
prove me wrong

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>waah why are you genociding the BASED black arabs, don't you know they're secretly based?
This is why I genocide them, this right here.
This province is 40% intellectual yet the rural and suburban Arab RETARDS are still at less than 60% literacy.

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Daily Ultimate Autism

>>183196637
Invert it vertically and remove the eagle

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>>183196637
*proves you wrong*

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ah yes

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>play Kaiserreich
>everything is so well done
>interesting borders
>interesting geopolitical situation
>tons of quality lore
>extensive focus trees for most nations
>tons of interesting events
But then
>"American Union State"
>"Kingdom of X"
>"Allgemeine Ostasiatische Gesellschaft"
>"Cretan State"
>"Fengtian Government"

Why do people do this

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>>183196916
>>183196637
*proves you both wrong*

>>183196651
The effective max cap is 4%, anything more won't make any practical difference

>>183196916
>Bourbon France

No thanks. Based Robespierre cleansed this filth.

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>>183197021
Fuck, wrong pic

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Find me a whiter or baseder sprite than this.

>>183196554
I'm still very attached to a Lithuanian or Old Prussian ruler, but my time in Stockholm this past week also has slightly changed my mind on playing a Norse raider.

I would say that, as of now, I still prefer the idea of a Romuva ruler, but I'm also contemplating a Norse ruler in Scandinavia now. Having played in the Caucasus in the earlier start date, I really don't think it's going to be the interesting area I hoped it would be.

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>>183197380
hard to please huh

>>183197083
>why do people do this
Name countries?
I can't see the problem there desu.

>>183197478
Show that to HPM when he get's back, it's probably a bug related to Dayr al zouri being turk now

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>>183197538
*blocks your path*

>>183197691
Giving them shitty overcomplicated names.

>>183177902

>Official HPM twitter handle
https://twitter.com/alexgrandii

>Official HPM blog
https://alexgrandi.blogspot.com.co/

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>>183197783
Leave the Arabs to us.

>>183198521
>adoro uma boa música, festa e lecionar.

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i just finished updating this shit to the new HPM
i was also playing around with Germany, how should I organize it?
I'm going to shower now, and probably leave soon
When I come back I'm going to give Finland to Sweden and I'll see if I give Norway to Denmark or Sweden
Also, I need some good borders for GroBsaxony but I can't fucking read medieval maps so if someone could draw decent borders for me that would be nice

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*internationale starts playing*

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HPM ,fala em português por favor :3

>>183198719
Alex muito normie puta que paril, aposto que ele escuta sertanejo.

>>183198819
Why does Russia have the polish corridor, what is with that red dot on Dunkirk, will spain's imperial possessions like in Belgium and Italy rise up

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>>183197185
I was pointing out there were only 5 pop there.
They either emigrated or died or some shit, now the province is noculture.

I want at least half a dozen provinces to be like this by 1936.

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/gsg/ will always be brazilian

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Okay, so I shut down all factories in Anatolia now the systematic extermination modifier is over, now every corner of the empire will be TURKED.

>>183199762
*SOUTH brazilian

alex is SULISTA A MORTE

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BASEDO ES FUARKO

What's the best national value in vicky 2?

>>183200213
this is so bad

>>183200631
encourage FASCISM

this turk is literally the worst thing I've ever seen in a while

>>183200631
Productivity for powergaming, equality for rp :^)

Thinking of forming the Holy Roman Republic on my next playthrough of CK2 (it would be my first game as a Merchant Republic, as well as my first Rome game)
How difficult would this be to pull off?

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>>183200678
It's actually more effective than conventional genocide.
Commies confirmed best genociders.

>>183200904
>Thinking of forming the Holy Roman Republic on my next playthrough of CK2

oh nice it's not like this is literally the only thing people post here

>>183198140
It is to emulate the titles that countries actually give themselves.

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A fucking month of this process and Greece is already almost entirely Turk.

>>183200934
no i mean that

that's turks in rightful christian lands

please no

>>183201010
Really? I thought most people who did Rome playthroughs went for regular feudal governments

>>183201165
stop pls. i like genocide but this is gamey

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>>183201262
>implying stalin didnt do shit like this all the time

>>183201165
don't let those butthurt arabs stop you, continue genociding and continue posting

>>183201203

there's been even a jewish roman empire posted here

>>183201173
Claro que nao. Alex= QI 147

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>>183178028
Or you could play the mod and find out for yourself.

You, in most cases, don't have to worry about Russia just yet.

>>183189054
Good to see you, but yuck to that game.

Go CK2+ and Nestorian

>>183197083
Because those are their names?

Also, political situations fluctuate wildly, so it's just normal to indicate easily what the government of the now is. Seriously, why the fuck are you complaining? Maybe fucking play the mod and learn the lore.

>AUS is literally the name of the new America
>Kingdom of X is self-explanatory
>AOG is literally the company's name, it's like calling somewhere the East India Company. It's the corporation's actual name.
>some countries or dependencies have used x State
>Fengtian Government is just a way of saying Clique in the Chinese Warlord Era context you fucking retard

>>183201371
nah stalin did not close factories to force russians to migrate.

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I want to play EUIV

What mods should I use?

>>183201517
Well, I guess it can't be too difficult to do then
I usually don't blog about my games unless something particularly interesting happens anyway

>>183201691

are you using HIP?

>>183201683
There's this one cool one that is mandatory to have fun called Uninstall.exe

>>183201371
no

no

NO

which country do i use to save europe and abolish the turk?

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fuck you t.urk poster

>>183201995
Greece WC senpai.

>>183201995
slovenia to yugoslavia

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>just realized gott Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser and Deutschland Uber Alles have the same melody

wHoA...

>>183202337
nice job genius

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Okay, so whilst I was building the camps I shut down the factories, but I also did a conventional genocide and now they have the no immigration modifier, so it's time for the unemployed Turks to get back to work in Anatolia.

>>183201668
It's not gamey at all, lad. I built factories in every state, this is just me telling the Anatolians they should go seek employment elsewhere.

>>183201623
>Go CK2+ and Nestorian
I prefer HIP, so CK2+ is off the table. I'm still not certain about my area and goals, however.

>>183202050
>Republic of Egypt
>Republic
Based

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Is this pure?

>>183202539

german creativity amirite? heheh

>>183201995
>>183202081
Sorry what I meant to say is Greece WC F A M

>>183202562
For Vicky 2, you've done a fash France and you've done communist Britain, how about an absolutist Austria?

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the absolute state

>>183201792
No

>>183203061

download HIP (don't use VIET though, it's absolute cancer) then try to come up with a interesting run.It's way more rich in options than vanilla.

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>>183202807
Fucking epic bro, here are your goals.

>>183198819
Saxony looks bretty gud. I'm with the other anon tho, what's up with Russia's polish corridor

>>183203254

>people's republic of italy

delete this immediately

>>183198819
Germany looks far too clean in general.

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Rate my America

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>>183203432
Or what, you'll nerf the Turks again? You're pathetic, Grandi.

>>183203754
It's shit, but you already knew that

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is this redpilled

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>>183203813

DELEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETE

>>183189054
mod?

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uh

>>183203982
Why are they at war?

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>>183203754
Glorious Korea shits on the world

>>183203813
Please stop this.

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WHAT THE FUCK

>>183203254
>banat not owned by romania
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>183203813
>tfw it'll only go up to 1936

It'll be over soon lads.

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What are they up to?
>>183204218
Oregon boundary dispute, 54-40 or Fight is actually working now. See >>183203020

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>>183204391
I've no idea how or why this is happening but the Christian population is regrowing?

>>183204703
The genocide modifier is pushing your own pops away.

>>183204703
They became hardcore traditionalists and are making 13 kids per family.

>>183199486
>what is with that red dot on Dunkirk
Calais
>will spain's imperial possessions like in Belgium and Italy rise up
Probably
>>183203375
>>183203697
https://pastebin.com/UCuxnUjR
I wanted to split up Prussia but giving the Polish corridor to someone who wasn't prussia looked kinda weird, so I guess the Russians have the duchy of Posen and East Prussia (minus Danzig) now

>>183202954
Victoria 2 won't be up for another AAR for some time, I think, but it's possible I could try that in the future. Frankly I typically don't like trying absolutist games because they simply turn into horrid rebel spam, but it's something I may contemplate. Presently I want to do CK2, though, and then probably Kaiserreich. Those two alone probably won't be finished for a full year.

>>183204160
HIP with SWMH.

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You retarded fucking t*rks, this is your home now!

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Is HPM's economy broken at the moment? I've played 3 games as very strong countries, US/GER/UK, and I've very rarely seen their needs fulfillment better than pic related. Every POP I check can't afford their daily needs, farmer or clerk, colonial or non-colonial. Is there some additional finesse I've yet to discover?

>>183204851
>Calais
Why do they own it?
>I wanted to split up Prussia
But that looks so shitty, might as well make the west part of Prussia be Brandenburg and the east still Prussia

>>183204921
I say Austria for absolutism because you get a national value that allows you to keep yourself at the very least semi-constitutional. Your literacy will be ass but that's how its like leading a giant multiculti empire.

I've been gone for a while, how's the new HPM?

>>183205176
w&b

>>183204851
I like Prussian Napoleon

HPM needs to capitalize the S in Desert Scrublands. He said he'd do it but didn't.

>>183205081
>might as well make the west part of Prussia be Brandenburg
Yeah I was thinking about doing that desu
>Why do they own it?
Uh... read the pastebin?
Though I don't know if Calais is a strategic port, but I don't know of any French ports on the mediterranean that the Brits could take

>>183205446
>Yeah I was thinking about doing that desu
Fuck off. I want Prussia to retain its strength. This mod started off great but now you're just shitting on Prussia.

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>the US will end up winning this

>>183190528
is this fresh?

>>183202760
This playthrough looks like /pol/'s worst nightmare, keep it coming.

>>183205601
how did the US end up getting so JUSTed?

>>183205446
Honestly, Brandenburg-Prussia looks fucking disgusting with Mecklenburg and without Pomerania Anterior, especially if they don't own West Prussia.

>>183205081
>>183205549
>>183205759
Ok, how about you draw some acceptable borders and I just put them in?
Also, I think I will do something like the 1848 revolutions but way bigger where Prussia can come back and lead a German Federation or something

>>183205446
>read the pastebin?
Did that and I wonder why they took it when they already have the channel islands, but yeah instead of the Russian Penis splitting them just give Berlin area to Brandenburg and leave Prussia with the Baltic coast state and the interior to Russia

>>183205098
Typically I can actually make Austria and even Russia's literacy quite strong, but the problem is as always just one of tedium. Still, Planned Economy is in itself tedious, so I've already experienced some of that. It's not outside the realm of possibility, but there's still other things on the table first. I'm really very set on CK2 as the next AAR, at least.

Like this >>183198819 but with Pomerania added and with the Polish corridor also added, but no Posen. If Napoleon was Prussian then they'd still want a Peace with Honor thing so Prussia isn't too weak. I'd argue even give it Silesia.

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>>183205705
No idea, I think this is officially their last stack now that a 48k one got wiped while trying to reach DC.
Also, see >>183203020, Mexico won their war somehow and will refute the Manifest Destiny as soon as this war here is over.

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>>183205925
>Ok, how about you draw some acceptable borders and I just put them in?

Nah dude, you do you. This is your mod, keeping it different means keeping it fun. This is, in my opinion, the most aesthetic incarnation of Brandenburg-Prussia we've had, after the acquisitions under the Great Elector, but that was in the mid to late 17th century so after your point of divergence. I'd maybe put in decisions that lets this happen. The Hohenzollern/Brandenburg had a claim on Pomerania for a long time before that, so maybe giving a decision that adds cores to Pomerania Anterior might be a fun idea.

>>183206083
CK2 is fine, but please don't do boring ass Baltic pagans.

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>>183205994
How about giving this to the UK?
>>183206110
>Silesia.
"no"
t. habsburg pro

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>>183205697
Also looks like what's happening to modern day Europe.
Now fuck off back to >>>/r/paradoxplaza, kiddo.

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>>183206463
>Also looks like what's happening to modern day Europe.

German domination of the continent?

>>183206523
p aesthic

>>183184641
>fascism is a form of socialism and left-wing, they are against the free market
whew lad
>Hitler called Communism a Jewish invention.

>>183204481
großß germaniums AND großß romaniums?

>>183184641
>corporatism is now left wing

Man I keep forgetting people like you actually exist.

>>183206463
you're ending this in 1936 r-right? It hurts to watch.

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>>183206463
fuck off big_benis, nobody cares about your shitty playthrough

>>183205068
Netherlands has the best economy I've ever seen. I've had it fueled only by industry before.

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>>183201875
Should I do it?

What's a fun nation to play in Vic2 that starts off weak but can grow significantly powerful?

>>183206626

Fascism is a form of socialism.Under fascism the corporations were allowed independence of administration AS LONG as they were following the governments direction's.The "will of the people" trumps the individual choice of the corporations, therefore it's a socialist system.

>>183206996
UK

>>183206996
Austria.

>>183207084

government's directions*

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>>183206370
Looks like a good stand in for Gibraltar and allows them Mediterranean shipping. Also I know the prussian bit is guess work because I don't know the specific province shapes but I was thinking something like this, if you do have a Prussia returning they can invade pomerania and get to the rest of germany that way

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Closing the factories in preperation for the final genocide.
>>183206816
Yep.
>>183206909
u mad white boi

>>183206993
Sure why not :)

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>>183207084
This is what happens when you read /pol/ instead of primary sources.

>>183207148
>multiculti shithole

>>183207267

I read Mussolini.

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>>183206523
So Mexico didn't refute the Manifest Destiny because apparently they did "lose" the war against the US, and the decision states Mexico shouldn't have lost a war in the past 5 years. Pretty disappointing t bh

Anyway, what NV should I go for?

>>183207216
>reducing Prussia to a single province

Cringe. Once this mod is out I'm going to make a Prussian Empire and avenge them.

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>>183207245
Ooops

>>183206996
Persia, Japan, China, Egypt, basically any unciv with a large population.

>>183207485
>not making your own Hyper Prussia Mod
cringe

>>183207385
Might wanna read Smith, Ricardo, Marx or talk to people who know what the fuck they're talking about.