/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

First for futa elf necromancers.

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It's out!

Do werebeasts not need to eat or drink? I had a werebeast attack and that only injury was he bit one of my dwarves feet off. I wasn't sure if that counted for being infected or not so I went on the safe side and walled him up. It's been a bit now, he hasn't turned and its surely been enough time for him to be hungry or thirsty, but he isn't.

>>183146331
The futa necromancer wasn't even an elf :<

>>183146512
You raised my hopes and dashed them quite expertly.

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>>183146512
>shoops a fake
>doesn't even pick a more plausible version number than 48.16
C'mon bro.

>>183146512
>>183146739
Yeah, the .16 was a dead giveaway.

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>>183146331
Why are scimitars functionally identical to short swords?

For that matter, what's the deal with pikes? are they any good? (I realize that both pikes and halberds will be much better once toady represents their greater reach)

>>183147353
Pikes have greater penetration than spears.

>>183147353
They're functionally identical because their raws are pretty much the same, the only difference is that the pommel strike of the scimitar has a contact area 50 while the pommel strike of the short sword has a contact area of 100. As for why do they have identical raws, well, I have no idea.

Pikes, as >>183147484 said, have greater penetration, 20% more going by the wiki, but they require two arms to use for most humans and dwarves.

>>183147353
I mean, how would a scimitar be functionally different from a straight sword?

In a time before time, tourneyanon was struck down by a crab.

>>183146512
>some marksdwarf issues
heart skipped a beat

>>183147959
Worse stabbing, ability to slash without stopping on a horse

>>183147959
More slashy, less stabby.

>>183147959
it's used by subhumans

>>183148520
Curved swords existed all over
>Polish sabers
>Musket-era cavalry sabers
>Indian talwars
>The Falchion
>Egyptian Khopesh
>Ethiopian Shotels
>Persian Shamshir
>Pashtun Pulwar
etc. etc.

Curved swords are great against opponents with little armor/from horseback because while they can't stab through armor and have worse reach they'll cut shit real good

>>183148717
>poles
>sandniggers
>indians
literally my point

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>>183148767
kill le elv xD

>>183148767
don't forget literally everyone that ever used horses in the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries

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I like the xiphos.

>>183149106
That's a nice looking sword.

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>>183148918
>everyone that ever used horses

>>183149106
I prefer bronze swords, but humanity stopped really making swords out of bronze pretty early (for good reasons), so we'll never get to see how bronzeworking could've evolved in terms of swordsmithing

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>>183149106
I like this one, I bet it's great for cutting bread.

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>>183149274
Chinese swords are interesting.

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>>183149629
>jian

>>183149704
There's a little-known and rarely-taught Chinese katana form that was created by the Chinese people living along the coast who had to fight Japanese raiders using katanas that they looted and/or reverse engineered.

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Sentient undead (Mummies, vampires, and necromancers LEAVE) when?

>>183150612
Literally husks.

>>183150657
literally without a brain. They don't need one to "live."

>>183150834
Literally ghosts.

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>>183150876
Sentient corporeal undead

>>183151316
Go fuck yourself.

>>183151316
Mist zombie adventurers are sentient and undead.

>>183151523
They still have brains, he literally wants skeletons.

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>>183151523
ALRIGHT MISTER PEDANTIC, SENTIENT ANTAGONIST UNDEAD THAT ACT UNDER THEIR OWN WILL

Talking skeletons, undead servants, ghouls and whatnot.

>>183151847
Go fuck yourself you fucking nigger.

>>183151847
>Talking skeletons
literally mummies

>undead servant
not concilable with "acting under their own will". thus: literally ordinary zombies.

>>183149148
>This is a fine engraving a human, four humans, and a horse. The horse is impaled on the human. The horse is weeping. The four humans are laughing.

>>183152358
>The artwork relates to the founding of the elven settlement Horsefucks in the early spring of 69.

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>>183152109
Settle down

>>183151847
I want to paint that kobold like one of those french girls.
Clothed and mid-copulation.

>>183153020
Maybe she's getting fucked right now and the painting nust doesn't show it.

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>>183152229
Let's speculate on how mummies may one day interact with fort mode
>raiders recover artifact
>months later a mummy wanders onto the map
>curses the shit out of everyone, reforms and rises again a month after being "slain"

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>>183153289
What if Mona Lisa was mid-orgasm?
I guess you couldn't Louvre yourself any more for some publicity.

>>183153363
Literally the same as that episode of Courage.

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>>183153539
nice

>>183153539
THE MAN IN GAUZE THE MAN IN GAUZE THE MAN IN GAUZE KING RAAAAAAAAMSEEEEEEEES THE MAN IN GAUZE THE MAN IN GAUZE THE MAN IN GAUZE KING RAAAAAAAAMSEEEEEEEES

>>183155398
QT-BOLDSneed to be exterminateddesusenpai

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>>183156085

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>>183149629
adventure mode forging and sword embroidery when

>>183156792
oh man I didn't realize how much I wanted this until just now
sword writings
>it was inevitable
>pslam 23
>let !!fun!! rein

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>>183156792
I couldn't help myself

When is /dfg/ usually most active? I'm running on EST time btw.

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>decide to make pastures in the stone layer like a True Dorf™
>prepare a bunch of 11x11 rooms and flood them with a water
>mud everywhere
>nothing is growing
>manually check a few tiles
>actually moss grows just fine, but it's covered in mud and therefore undistinguishable from the muddied stone
>nice feature you dumb frog
>move pastures to the sand layer where I can actually see if my animals have shit to eat or not
>repurpose the muddied rooms as stockpiles for various goods
>everything is covered in mud and looks like crap
>once engravers are done with more urgent shit, delegate them to smoothing the muddied floors to make my corridors great again
>designate smoothing
>only a few tiles are flashing
>nani.engrv
>it looks like a bit of fungus makes the floor unsmoothable
>u fuking wot m8
>have a great idea
>construct some buildings on the moss and remove them
>both mud and moss are gone
>so is gabbro
>apparently stone turned into silt
>Jesus Christ, somebody take compiler away from that fucking toad
>as I wonder how to unfuck this, furrowed silt turns into silt cavern floor
>moss starts growing
>perfectly visible on now unmuddied silt floor
>ideal for pastures in the stone layer
>mfw

>>183158180
updates/tourneys
the rest of the time it's borderline off page 10 except when off topic

>>183158297
Ah I see. So like the 18 IPs we have right now is about the norm?

>>183157979
What is this image trying to convey

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>>183158610
You tell me.

>>183158238
it's a feature you dip:
>Physical weathering, also called mechanical weathering or disaggregation, is the class of processes that causes the disintegration of rocks without chemical change. The primary process in physical weathering is abrasion (the process by which clasts and other particles are reduced in size). However, chemical and physical weathering often go hand in hand. Physical weathering can occur due to temperature, pressure, frost etc. For example, cracks exploited by physical weathering will increase the surface area exposed to chemical action, thus amplifying the rate of disintegration.
>Plant roots sometimes enter cracks in rocks and pry them apart, resulting in some disintegration
from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weathering

>>183158610
',:^)

>>183158563
the thread has only been up for 4 hours. 60 posts in 4 hours is actually pretty fast by our standards.

in any case, calm down. /dfg/ is a slow general, and has always been slow, although it peaks after new releases. and that's fine.

>>183158712
What the fuck

How did I not notice

>>183158712
>1 KB
I still fell for it

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All right my dudes. After being inspired by the writefaggotry in the previous thread, I have decided I would contribute a bit myself with a short vignette. Or, so I thought. Turns out I uh, I went full autism, and created a rather lengthy story. Also pls no bully, but I incorporated the races from the mod I have published ( http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12897 ). The mod has a .txt file containing lore stuff for all 12 races added by my mod (though only a few of them are used in the story) so reading it would probably clear a few things up. However, it probably isn't necessary. Anyway, here is the product of (I estimate) roughly 5 hours of constant work:

https://pastebin.com/frYr5CbV

If you read it pls tell me how you felt about it, what you liked/disliked ect. I actually hope to eventually make a living as a writer so little things like this are a good way to practice.

>>183159373
It's shit.

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>>183159373
Saved for later

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>>183159421
tfw

>>183159459
Thanks! I basically live in this general so when/if you get around to reading it, feel free to leave a critique because I will probably definitely see it.

>>183157979
I like to imagine archeologists in the future finding 1000+ years old hard drives all over with this symbolism and trying to decode what it means

>>183158610
it's lost
shitty /v/ meme for the sake of it's age it's kept around

A kidnapper has made off with the thread /dfg/

How fucking long does it take for furrowed soil to become unfurrowed? I moved those farms like 4 years ago. Do creatures have to walk over it or something? I thought it just regressed back to normal grass after a few seasons.

>>183159373
I liked your retarded cat avatarfagging more
Also story is

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>>183163636
>I liked your retarded cat avatarfagging more

Oh was that considered avatarfagging? Sorry. I just use cat reaction images a lot because they're very noncontroversial and thus won't cause any derailing to whatever conversation is at hand. They're like the beige of memes.

>Also story is

th-thanks.

>>183163609
it takes a while, but it happens.

are you above ground in a mountain biome? grass doesn't grow back there.

I made another test, this one with spears vs pikes, you can check the full results here: https://pastebin.com/mQrpFMhe

The spear seems to be the superior weapon, the humans with the pikes didn't even win once, they got close sometimes, but never enough to win, while the humans with spears won and several times with a number of survivors significantly higher. This is pure speculation, but I think the reason why the humans with spears did better than the humans with pikes is that you only need one hand to hold the spear, while you need two to hold a pike, this is a big disadvantage, since if an attack manages to disable an arm, the effectiveness of the pike will be lowered drastically, while with a spear, you only have to worry about damage done to the arm that is holding the weapon, the damage done to the other arm will not affect the effectiveness of the weapon. The next step of this test would be to test these weapons against large creatures.

>>183163636
F

>>183163815
Beige is a shit color though.

>>183163831
I don't remember what biome it is, but grass has regrown under other old farms in this embark.
Maybe its spread across multiple biomes.

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>>183164048
>Beige is a shit color though.

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>>183164048
>>183164125
pls friends do not fight

>>183164881
fuck off eggnog

>>183159373
>7759 words
wo fuk niga

>>183159373
tl;dr

>>183157979
>>183158712
I don't get it.

>>183165545
>7 page uni assignment due to the 10th of august
>subject feels saturated after writing a single page

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>>183165828
it's a stale meme that has lived on far past it's expiration date

>>183160367
loss*

>>183165545
>>183165615
Yeah I kind of went overboard with it. I didn't intend for it to be so long but I couldn't really think of any ways to shorten it and besides, I genuinely enjoy writing so its not like I had anything to lose by taking my time with it. Its a really nice feeling to be writing a story and feel a sudden urge to wrap it up only to realize "Hey wait a minute, I don't have a deadline. I can take my time and just keep going!" Its great.

Although to be honest this is the longest story I've ever written for anything. I'm pretty proud of it.

>>183165836
Honestly I feel that way a lot too with assignments. Luckily fiction is much easier.

>>183166103
I read it
>not one dickgirl

>>183166669
Besides that glaring flaw, what did you think about it? If you didn't like it, what problems did you have?

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Check out this embark. Hematite at the bottom.

>>183168681
Look at how silly humans are, they build glass case to admire rock. In the fortress, we build case made of rock to admire glass window.

>dorf drops cellphone
>it cracks the concrete

>>183166949
A mean, it's obvious that you're a regular joe in terms of writing technique, but all in all it made me a lot interested in your mod races. What inspired their design?

>>183173024
>A mean, it's obvious that you're a regular joe in terms of writing technique

How could you suggest I improve? I have definitely noticed I tend to write in a sort of "samey" way sometimes. I'd really like to get better.

>but all in all it made me a lot interested in your mod races. What inspired their design?

Well a lot of my creative process comes from a stream of consciousness kind of thing. I just come up with a vague idea of what I want and it all just sort of comes together naturally, like solving a puzzle. However, I did have an overall set of guidelines for the races I intended to add. Since animal men already existed, and plenty of other mods tackled adding in more traditional fantasy races, I focused on adding more unique and "out-there" races, hence the name of my mod. My general ruleset was:

>They shouldn't be just "animal people", there should be some extra stuff going on.
>They shouldn't directly mimic a commonly used fantasy race
>If they do end up breaking rule one or two, their culture should be different enough that they could be considered a separate entity.

My way of figuring out just what I wanted was creating a culture and assigning it to a site, and then creating the physical creature after. Like for the Rux, for example, the first thing that popped into my head was the idea for a race of backstabbing schemers. I assigned them the [TREE_CITY] site, and then asked myself, what sort of creatures would fit a site like this? Birds was the first thing that popped into my mind, and after a few tweaks the Rux were all set up.

There's some more specific stuff I could go into as well, so if you have any more questions focused on specific races I'd be happy to answer them also.

>>183173960
>How could you suggest I improve? I have definitely noticed I tend to write in a sort of "samey" way sometimes. I'd really like to get better.
take actual courses instead of listening to people on the internet.

even the most celebrated writefaggotry on 4chan and fanfic sites sounds cringey to people outside the echochambers, and certainly wouldn't pass as good literature. taking advice on 4chan will only reinforce bad habits.

>>183174415
Oh I also take writing courses. I just like posting my stuff here because I find 4chan is pretty good at tearing apart what people care about so even if the flaws that are pointed out are exaggerated, they still point me in the right direction. I mean, look at what you just did now. If I hadn't already been taking courses, the idea would certainly have been implanted in my head thanks to your advice.

I'm gonna go poke /dfg/'s dead corpse with a stick.

How do I change my adventurer's name if I already started him? Can dfhack do it?

>>183177782
>the general shudders and begins to move!

>>183179368

Nice try Neil. go back to your damp cellar

Holy fuck /dfg/ you're so dead.

>>183163846
Maybe test using larger creatures which can one-hand the pikes? Also consider the size of their targets.

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check out what toady made for me

>>183182895
I was thinking about doing that after finishing a few other tests. The idea is to make a race that's just humans big enough to use two-handed weapons with only one hand and see if that changes anything.

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>>183183106
saved to the archive

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>want to dorf
>can't dorf because no update yet
TAODY

>>183159373
dickgirl protagonist anon here, I am happy to see someone was inspired. I'll make this post a rolling critique as I go through.

First thing is that first sentence. It's too long and not a great hook. Start a little more vague and unspecific so the reader is drawn in.

You also infodump a bit. Sometimes it's necessary, but trim it as much as possible. You do have a talent for filling up space--and I know that doesn't sound good, but it means you can have great control over your pacing, which is key.

I'm not sure if this is just an artifact of pastebin, but make sure you start a new paragraph when someone speaks. It really helps clear up where everything is coming from.

Oh, and adverbs! Try to avoid them. You'll notice that there's a lot of times where you can cut them out without changing the sentence's meaning. Unless you need them, do that, because they sound weird.

Make sure you keep the same tense. Less confusion that way.

Use more paragraphs and vary the length of your sentences so you can control the flow a little better.

Overall, pretty good! I look forward to more stories in the future.

>>183187436
Man

Why do you have to type like this

You don't need all those space you know

Is this supposed to be bait?

It looks like bait

Well, anyways, here's your (you)

>>183187436
plebbit spacing

>>183188131
>using paragraph breaks is Reddit tier

>>183188131
>>183187993
wat

it's called making separate paragraphs to space out your ideas. I was also writing as I was reading, and didn't want to make more than one post.

>player masterwork as humans
>siege by a mixed human/goblin/tigerman army with 3 pages of invaders
>Only have 10 men armed with iron pikes and leather armor
>seal the gates
>panic conscription
>shit out muskets at light speed
>stick 20 musketmen at the end of a bridge
>unseal the gates
>invaders loses half their men before the rest flee in terror

>>183188312
>>183188325
>two sentences is a paragraph
plebbit leave.

>>183188526
Any time you indent is a paragraph, but you can't indent on 4chan so a line break has to do.

>>183188605
>>>/reddit/

>>183188775
I still don't understand how that's reddit.

Are you pretending to be retarded? You better be pretending.

>>183188526
>>183188775
t. never written a university assignment

>>183187436
>>183187993
>>183188131
>>183188312
>>183188325
>>183188526
>>183188605
>>183188775
>>183188854
>>183188924
I hope you fucking die.

>>183188775
>>183188526
thanks for shitting up the thread

>>183188980
>>183189120
thats adowable. does babby need a tissue? ;o
>thanks for shitting up a dead thread

>>183189158
yess please mommy :3

>>183189158
if you think a general is dead just because it doesn't go through several threads a day, then you need to go back to whatever shitty meme board you came from.

This is all fault of the tournament.

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>>183189571

Fuck

call me paranoid, but sometimes I really get the feeling that there is someone who just wants to destroy /dfg/.

the general was so fucking good just a year ago, but lately, it's like there are a few people who are willfully sabotaging it. it's not the usual casual shitposting either.

>>183191307
I think we're too easy to bait sometimes.

>>183192591
ding dong banu

>>183192591
>nighty instead of nightly
See, sleepy after tracking down all the shit that wasn't wanting to play by the right rules.

>>183192591
Nice blog Max.

>>183191307
>call me paranoid, but
You're paranoid.
Shitposts are a perennial crop on 4chan, and /dfg/ is no exception. I understand wanting to believe that shitposting is a conspiracy, but honestly we're not that important.

>>183193940
then, do you deny that there has been a steady drop in post quality since the beginning of the year?

also, some people do find us relevant enough:
>https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/169775519/

>there are people who unironically think the update won't take another year
o I am laffin

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New Swerwer album soon.

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This is probably the worst Dorf thread I can remember.

>>183196075
Only then did I realize that I had had rhyolite the entire time, but I never appreciated it and took it for granite.

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>>183196075
I would improve it but my crazy defense mechanism didn't work.

>>183195923
fuckin' nice, is it still df-themed?

I'll try to un-derail the thread then, with a stupid question:
If there's an abandoned site, for example a human town or a forest retreat, with no-one living there, then is it possible to embark onto that site?

>>183197103
>rhyolite
>not gneiss

>>183198512
I'm not certain about normally, but you could certainly do it with DFhack in any case.

>>183197365
probably.

but really, all we know is that he's doing something. since he announced it to the DF community in the description of his re-uploaded songs on youtube, I assume that he's making it for DF.

>>183194446
Sure, I'll deny it. I haven't actually done a post-by-post study to substantiate that, I doubt you have either, and I'm not aware of any objective metric for post quality anyway. I have been posting less since the tourney started, because I personally find the atmosphere distasteful (even though I've participated in every one), but that's just me.
I've noticed that some of the other regulars have been largely absent since it began, too. A lot less frownposting, Drew is still lost in the woods, Relicwebsanon seems to have fallen off the cliff, and only one new ninedots drawing in recent memory. But testanon is back providing quality research, some new drawfags have been cropping up, and that one guy with the racemod has been generating a lot of instructive failures (and successes, I'm not ripping on you, I've been learning a bit watching your progress). And we still have Max, for what that's worth.
I think bitching about things you don't like, arguing about development, and general shitposting are always around and are always going to be. Hell, this time last year we were having thread-long arguments about senshi/berserk posting. Just roll with it, man. Enjoy the good posts, and ignore or engage trolls as you please.

>>183198536
Phyllite under schist happens.

>>183199457
hopefully you're right.

maybe it brightens up after the tourney.

I'm still baffled as to how the tourney could go so wrong. I remember the last one as one of the absolute highlights of the general's history, and I expected an equally fun experience this time around.

>>183200006
32 gladiators happened

>>183200006
maybe its because only a small circle of /dfg/ actually knows how the fucking tourney works, so the rest of us dont really give two shits?

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>>183145026

>>183200006
It's all about attitude. Observers (or perhaps it's just one guy?) are raging about >adamantine, and sure, it's not balanced--but the managers that have posted so far don't seem to care, even if they've sworn off it.

There's a lot of exaggeration, too. Herne got shot in the head--which is typically fatal.

>>183199457
I remember frown-anon hasn't really posted since that one guy suggested he go to /ic/ and read the sticky. Maybe he's just on a quest to git gud

>>183200219
Oh shit that's actually good wtf

>>183200219
>AWAKEN MY AMETHYSTS

>>183200305
Of course the managers all say they're OK with it, they need to keep up an appearance.
They're a target. If they give the thread something to shitpost about nobody will hear the end of it.

>>183200219
This pixel aesthetic goes really well with df

>>183200219
Holy shit, that's cool as hell

So, will Steve make it in the battle royale, that he may continue his quest for feet?

>>183201304
I think that the winner of the battle royale is probably going to be someone defence/dodge oriented, so maybe.

>>183201304
>>183201420
What is this shit and how do I apply for it?

>>183201592
A tournament. You submit a fighter and the organizer runs the fighters through the bracket. Unfortunately, you're far too late to apply (we're nearly at the end of the tourney).

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>>183200219
That drawing gets a good-job-Dale.

>>183201420
Gladiatrix. Remember best girl brunhilda?

>>183201304
>>183201420
Are any dwarves in the battle royale? They get martial trances, which aren't a factor in the tourney proper, but give them a massive bonus against groups of opponents. It's only dumb luck that dwarves haven't won the previous BRs.

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>>183202241
>tfw no wilba this tourney

>>183202241
Well. My thinking is that the gladiators focused on dealing damage work by taking out enemies before they can be hit: but there's obviously more than one enemy, so eventually they'll be hit.

>>183201420
I'm still hoping my man Gorilla with a Gun manages to make a return in the battle royale. I think being ranged will be an advantage, able to effectively sit out until most people are weakened.

>>183203576
It depends on whether or not he is ignored or gets swarmed.

>>183203576
I'm afraid I have to disagree - I have a feeling that it's going to be an utter scrum when push comes to shove, and the winners are going to be the ones who can outlast the others rather than deal the most damage.

What does the winner of Battle Royale get?

>>183204978
Feet.

>make 20 leather armor sets
>have 10 soldiers
>they equip everything except for the torso piece
>try removing bins does nothing
>already set to replace clothing

>>183205145
Thats actually a game crashing glitch. You'll want to trash all the torsos before the seasons change 3 times or rip your save.

>>183205145
did you also give them a mail shirt or breastplate?

Is it possible to turn off bogeymen? I know I can just travel with people, light fires, or kill them, but it's just sort of annoying.

>>183206141
you can generate a world without them in adv worldgen.

>>183206703
Nothing mid-game?

>>183205425
Pls be fake

>>183205864
Nope, just leather armor (entire set) and iron spears are in the uniform

>Tell the story of how /dfg/ was struck down by autosage in the land of Page 10

>>183206763
nope.

>>183210402
>State opinion about performance
This storyteller is terrible.

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bump my mans

>>183214761
I'm going to check if horse man is a thing so I can do this.

>when you accidentally leave you floodgate/door into the dry most empty and half the siege enters it
>it's a surface fort so there are plenty of open fields for them to spread across and I can't funnel them to protect my civilians

>>183147959
Scimitars don't get stuck when you attempt to cut someone's head off. Have you seen an ISIS execution? Yeah, one of those. However they can't stab.

>>183202374
i'm still here brother

>>183201304
I'm betting on purple fist, just because he managed to last so long with herne. The other elementalmen might have a chance too. And we can't forget Mr. worldwide. We all know how well a goblin + spear combo goes in a battle royale.

bump my dorfds

fuck urisft and fuck dorf people

>>183223512
shut up Stâtost

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>>183187436
All right, thanks for the tips. A consistent tense is definitely one of my weak spots. I get so caught up in writing I forget about all that.

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pyrolusite

>>183226878
>>183230831
nice rocks

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>>183226878
>>183230831
Not posting best rock

>>183231613
>>183232765
*minerals

>>183211514
This anon makes me retch.

>>183227870
Youll get it. Just practice practice practice. And proofread. And more practice.

>>183232321
I love the autism. Like.
It's a good autism. We need more of this

>>183233412
You stumble over the details.

Urist makes a mockery of the smod.

>>183232321
He feels euphoric after admiring a fine drawing.

>>183233898
>fine
If that was on a dwarven wall it would be plain old no-quality, well-made at most.

>>183233694
I will keep posting one every day, Armok willing.
>>183233898
He felt satisfied upon improving artistry.

>>183232765
Is that an anus

>>183233071
It's like an autistic reflex. Someone HAD to say or the thread would've imploded.
I rely on /dfg/ for this kind of reliability.

Ideas on how to spread boulders over a drawbridge? Like over a 3x5 area. If I could just create a stockpile over a bridge that'd be perfect.

>>183235929
first thing that comes to mind is have dwarves haul rocks over the bridge then pause the game when they are on the bridge and Forbid the rock he is carrying, i think the dwarf will drop it instantly. I could be wrong.

>>183236202
Oh that'd work, good idea, but God damn the micromanagement.

>>183235929
Is it possible to built stockpiles over floor grates? If so you could build a floor of them above the drawbridge and have them connected to a lever.

>>183235298
Yes

>>183236596
Oh

Good

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>>183236443
Yeah... The only other thing I can think of is to build some sort of scaffolding above the aforementioned bridge, and then have Dump zones 1 tile above it where the dwarves can climb up and drop them.
Actually i take that back, since i dont think you can put zones over thin air. What you can do however is build a QuantumStockPile™ using a minecart, with the minecart set to dump the item (off the ledge). see pic related. I can break it down for you how to do this if you dont know already. this would permit your dwarves to automatically dump mass amounts of boulders without any input from you except the initial set up.

>>183236574
That's fantastic, I hadn't thought of that. Unfortunately can't test it, no PC right now.

>>183236917
Thanks, I know about quantum stockpiles, the problem is I want the boulders spread out not all on the same tile

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>>183237058

>>183237307
>over a 3x5 area
I don't even want to think about how many z-levels I'd need for that

>>183237461
...3?

>>183237769
You can't set a track stop to only dispense one item at a time can you?

>>183237879
isn't multiple stops an option? I tend not to use minecarts other than for magma reasons since wheelbarrows are too effective, but you should be able to.

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ok why cant i make any alcohol? i have shit tons of plants but i cant brew anything. Why?

also separate question, i have tons of things in my trade depot, but dwarves arent moving it. Why? i have a large stockpile set for all things so it wouldnt be the bins fault

>>183238052
What error does it give when you try to make alcohol?

>>183238052
If it says "plants" at the end of the name then it needs to be processed at a farmer's workshop.

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>>183237879

>>183238432
apparently i didnt have enough barrels. thanks anon i forgot you could look at that.

>>183238503
What tileset?

>>183239170
curses_16x16x16.png

>>183239770
clever

>>183235929
Just use 1 tile dump zones. Dump as many stones as you want on each tile, delete the zone, and then dump on the next one.

What is that dfhack trick you can use to teleport to a location? I forgot it.

>>183238432
No it doesn't. The 'process plants' order is for turning plants to thread, 'process plants to bag' is for quarry bushes, 'process plants to barrel' makes dwarven syrup from sweet pods, and 'process plants to vial' is for making golden salve. Except for things that have to be milled or brewed, no plants need any further processing to be used. The issue with crops that had a 'plant' suffix being unusable was fixed back in 2014, but even then the farmer's workshop wasn't involved at all.

>>183241591
https://pastebin.com/13EkrFt2

The command is "questport."

>>183242219
>2014 was 5 years ago
Fucking scary

>>183244698
OH SHIT IT'S 2019

>>183244806
>tfw it's happening

>>183243968
thank

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Lantern shields when?

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>>183243968
I tried it and now this happened

>>183245730
>swiss army shield

>>183245813
I think you goofed the install somehow. Delete and try again.

>>183245956
I do it the exact way you are supposed to. Open pastebin, select the raw button, and save it as questport.lua in the appropriate folder.

Does it matter if I give my dwarves silk or plant fiber clothing?

Will they get better moods from wearing silk?

>>183246670
Doesn't affect strange moods. Or even normal moods that much, honestly.

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ATHEISM WHEN
THIS SHIT IS GETTING OUT OF HAND

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fuck

>>183247723
what hath occured

>>183247848
Looks to just be a bandit gang that's gone out of control and turned into a small army.

>>183248081
Well all he's gotta do is dodge while playing Eurobeat and he'll be fine.

>>183246670
Silk is negligibly lighter.
That's it I guess

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>>183247013
>atheist fort in a high-magic, real-creation-myth world
>heavily religious fort in no-magic or elaborate creation myth world

If I give my militia captain a candy cloak I can go ahead and remove his greaves and chest armor right?

>>183249042
give him three and it's a go

>>183249042
All good until it wears out.

>>183245730
I don't know if it would be even possible to mod it in.

You could add more types of attacks to a shield, but I'm not sure if you can also make it work as a piece of armor.

>>183249042
Yeah, remove his mail shirt if he has one too. Keep in mind cloaks wear out eventually though.

What do I do to make my militia train? All they do is listen to a guy recite poetry all year despite being set to active with orders to train.

>>183252629
Give them a room with an armor stand and assign it like a bedroom and queue them to train there

>>183253697
Did that too

What are some good dorf fort stories? I've already read Boatmurdered, Roomcarnage, Reginald, that one where the guy makes a self-sufficient fort in a lava lake, Matul Remrit, and The Littlest Cheesemaker.

>>183255421
There's always that ONE story.

>>183255838
That ONE story is fucking bullshit and didn't happen.

>>183255838
>>183255934
Obok Meatgod? I remember that but I forgot to put it down. Unless its something else.

>>183256074
Yeah that one.

>>183255934
Honestly, it's depraved but not nearly out of the realm of possibility.

People have posted screenshots of similar deeds.

>>183256132
Some of the things that happen in the story can't happen in the game, like the demon on top of the mountain just going *poof* when he saw Obok. The story is complete bullshit, they guy just made it up to get attention.

Made a small food stockpile inside my noble area, in case attackers get inside and I need to hold until the next militia wave shows up.
How do I stop others from eating out of it? And how do I make the kitchen not use it?

>>183256349
Could've been a bug, or simple embellishment.

The truly horrific part of the story, as well as most of the other deeds, are 100% possible.

>>183254952
Activate them in the military menu.

>>183256609
Yeah right, look, don't act retarded now, there's a whole lot of bullshit in that story.

Look, there's a whole lot of bullshit in that story, but the biggest of them all is when he rapes that kid, he says that he closed the game, added a few body parts, and then opened the game again and raped it, but there's a problem with that. For those changes to take effect, he would have had to make another world, and he didn't, so bam, there you have it, just a bunch of lies made to get attention.

>>183257946
You can alter some raws mid game. Plus, it was an older version.

>>183258182
Not bodyparts, I tried, and it being and older version only makes the story more unbelievable, since in the story he says he attacks a bunch of forest retreats when back then there were no actual forest retreats.

>>183258305
not who you're replying to, and I agree with you on most accounts, but there were forest retreats in the game when I picked it up in 2010.

they were very bare bones: just elves hanging around in a forest, but all the trees had names.

>People actually play in anything but smaller worlds

I started using them out of curiosity and haven't looked back since.

>Small enough for interesting landmarks and places to be meaningful instead of one of dozens strewn across the map.
>The amount of kingdoms and the interplay between them is compact enough to be studied.
>Much less lag on the calendar for if you use that updatefinish script.
>Stuff you do actually matters since even a single fort can be fairly important for a world of that size.

>>183259119
I wish the rate of expansion wasn't so incredibly fast as to make all the interesting or worthwhile embark locations on any large world occupied within moments. There's no point of it since the default site cap gets filled within 100 years on a large world.

>start making a nice throne on my surface castle town
>months pass
>then years
>throne room still empty because liaspn is only offering my trade deals despite me having given him hundreds of thousands worth of good and having 110 population
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY BARON OFFER

>>183259073
Yeah, you're right about that, in 31.25 and .34 only humans had actual sites, but before that elves did live in forests. but even then I still think the story is completely fake.

>generate a world with 1124 years of history
>check worldgen
>there are exactly 11 elves in the world
>2 are the daughters of the very first elven queen, born when the world was still not more than 15 years old. Both were kidnapped by goblins and have endured over a thousand years of servitude.
>They have spent this time watching their entire people be exterminated.
>The remaining 9 elves are mad werebeasts with no hope of redemption.
>One of the two last pure elves does nothing but mope in an abandoned tomb.
>Her sister just wants to see the great natural sites, but is trapped in the goblin tower.

I think I'm going to play an elf myself, with the task of slaying the 9 lost souls and putting them to rest, slay the tomb-dwelling elf in a one-on-one duel (she's a master pikeman), and sneak into the goblin tower and try to recruit the last remaining elf. If she agrees we'll found a site in the woods and try and retire there. If not I'll quickly kill her, and then die killing as many goblins as possible.

>>183260519
How the fuck are you going to track them down

>>183260314
>even then I still think the story is completely fake.
so do I.

it's only because of its edginess that it reached meme status. it's also frustrating that there's always people who are willing to argue for its legitimacy.

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>scholar writes book about some shit
>stores it in library
>writes another book about writing the original book
>writes another book about storing the original book
>writes another book about writing about storing the original book
>and so on and so forth

>>183260873
I'm waiting for a sequence like
>The truth about "X"
>The truth about "The truth about "X""

When is the fucking patch coming? I wanna play DF again, but i dont wanna have burnout as i heards the new versio is coming "SOON TM".
Dont tell me they are just focusing on the furry dwarf wedding.

>>183261573
literally nothing is keeping you from playing the game whenever you want.

generating a world and starting playing in is a trivial matter.

>>183261203
>The truth about miggers
>Miggercaust was just a hoax!

>>183260573
Exporting legends beforehand, I assume?

>>183261573
>Want to Dorf
>Can't Dorf
It was inevitable.

>>183261203
>The Fall of the Twin Dark Towers by Goblin Correspondent
>The Truth About The Fall of the Twin Dark Towers by Urist Amünbotol
>The Lies of The Truth About The Fall of the Twin Dark Towers by Goblin Correspondent

>>183260573
legendsviewer

>>183261690
My point was that i wanna play with the new content, also i usually devote alot of time for a couple of forts and then get tired of DF for X amount of time afterwards. I dont wanna be on my downtime when the new versio hits.
Also i heard the current versio has some game breaking bugs, Something about weapon traps crashing whole game etc.

>>183261923
>also i usually devote alot of time for a couple of forts and then get tired of DF for X amount of time afterwards
well, that's a retarded way of playing.

>>183262035
eh, i've been playing df for a long time and that's what i do as well. do it with ss13 too, play for a bit every once in a while then take a break

>>183262132
if it leads to "want dorf, can't dorf" situations, then it is an objectively bad way of playing.

plus, I can't really understand how DF can be so exhausting to some people that they have to take half year long breaks between their sessions, and then "re-learn" everything when they start it up again.

>>183262272
Eh more like "dorf till i drop". I have alot of games i love (ss13, AoW, TA, etcetc) so i usually play my current fav till i feel like i have done all the fun stuff i wanted to do with it. Also i have played these games so god dam much that i dont really need to "re-learn" anything.

I really cant imagine myself playing just one game all the time.

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>>183146239

This is the end isnt it?

Theres just no way that any woman will allow the developers autism to continue....

I did another test, this time with two groups of humans, one steel spears and the other with steel pikes, both of them fought against particularly large creatures (elephant men, ogres and giants) in individual combat, and after finishing I compared their results, which you can check here: https://pastebin.com/NaZTHbnr

Seems like the humans with steel spear performed slightly better than the humans with steel pikes in the first set, while in the other two sets the performance of both groups was very similar. It seems like the first set was the hardest one for both groups, that's strange, I didn't think elephant men would be that strong, they're on par with giants against these groups of humans, while ogres seem like the weakest.

>>183262754
His brother is being married, not the man himself.

>>183262754
inb4 she pulls another Notch on him and divorces him for half his autismbux.

>>183263619
zach doesn't get any autismbux, toady does.

and toady is still single.

Is there some kind of bug about embarks overlapping onto Mountains being completely flat? The embark relative height screen shows large cliffs but in reality I get nothing.

>>183264658
what did the elevation screen say?

>>183264748
You mean the cliff indicator? 7's to 0s for the river.

>>183264851
there's another one that just shows relative elevation, as opposed to the cliff indicator, which you seem to be talking about.

>>183264980
Yeah it was blue to grey, which should have given something/

>>183265054
I don't know. I can't really say anything unless you show some screens of the embark indicators versus the actual map.

>>183260873
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Tingle#Short_stories
>Pounded In The Butt By My Book "Pounded In The Butt By My Book 'Pounded In The Butt By My Book "Pounded In The Butt By My Book 'Pounded In The Butt By My Book "Pounded In The Butt By My Own Butt"'"'

>>183265449
I wonder how much money he makes.

>>183266778
He's got a normal family, so I'd assume not all that much.

>>183265449
>He got political with the newer releases

Oh that's just disappointing. Chuck Tingle should have remained a pure writer who did what he loved; write books about cryptids, inanimate objects, and metaphysical concepts having turgid gay sex with handsome studs. But he sold out to cash in on muh drumpf. Really a shame. Like the WeRateDogs guy on twitter.

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>>183260873

>>183257882
did that as well, it says they are active

>>183260873
I've once had a scholar write about how life in the fortress sucks in every way possible, had 12-14 works just about how life sucks in the fort. He tackled everything, from how shit the location is to how much of a nigger the mayor was.

>>183261923
Weapon traps crash the game if the weapons break. Just don't allow any weapon traps to break and you'll be fine. In practice, that largely just means not using glass, and maybe not using stuff like copper, silver, or obsidian.

>>183262868
I'm not organized enough to make proper use of your work, but I appreciate it nonetheless.

>>183264658
Maybe it has something to do with erosion?

>>183252629
>>183253697
>>183254952
>>183271093
Does the room have permission for that squad to train in it?

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Why do I even bother escorting miners, they do a better job than the military.

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Should I commit to learning this game or stick to Rimworld.

>>183273319
what kind of question is that?

this is a general where people talk about playing DF. why would you ask "is it worth my time to play DF" here? obviously people who play the game find it worthwhile.

>>183273992
>what kind of question is that?
The kind of question that you could have answered with a simple yes instead of been a bitch about it. Or the kind of question that you could have thought about for longer than 2 seconds and analyzed the second part in which I implicitly compared DF to RimWorld and you could have given me a reason or two why DF is a better game to play.

>>183274849
>analyzed the second part in which I implicitly compared DF to RimWorld and you could have given me a reason or two why DF is a better game to play
no, DF is worthless compared to Rimworld. that's why I spend all my time playing DF and posting in the DF general.

I'm not going to desperately try to convince you to give DF a try. if you're interested, download it and give it a try, then decide if you like it.

>>183273319
>be an anon that constantly browses a fan forum for Dwarf Fortress
>Check every day on the main site for updates
>Excitedly think about what the next iteration will be like
>consume fan art and memes all the time
>"Hey should I play dorf guys?"

What do you think I'm gonna say m8?

>>183275881
"No, fuck off, we're full."

>>183275881
Something with more than "durr hurr yes".

>>183275658
Oh wow did I insult you by asking you about your game? Sorry, I guess, nerd.

New player here

What's the optimal ratio of military dwarves : civilians? I'm planning a big base and want to have separate housing for my soldiers.

Another question, why do my dwarves keep dropping Seeds under thrones everywhere? Bug? I read somewhere you can fix it by designating a Dump on Seeds so they'll all end up in one big repository.

>>183277076
Whenever they eat raw plants, like plump helmets, they leave behind 1-2 seeds, which another dwarf will come along and put into a stockpile if there's one which will accept it.

>>183277254
Ah, I thought there was a bug in my game because I had some above-ground farms that wouldn't let me plant ANYTHING in my first Embark. Must have been something to do with the biome or temperature, but at the time I thought my dwarves couldn't reach the seeds for some reason.

bump my dorfs

>>183280036
Page 9... this is truly horrifying.

>>183281627
so this is how /dfg/ dies...

>>183282979
Death is all around us. I have a part in this too.

>>183283096
It was inevitable

Is there any way to peacefully convince bandits to stop banditing or do I just have to murderhobo them?

>>183283391
give welfare to them and apologize for your ancestors crimes

PS: it won't work

>>183283391
you can make bandits stop harassing a town, but you can't stop them from banditing altogether.

if you beat two harassing bandits unconscious, the rest will flee the town, and the two you beat up will flee when they wake up.

>>183283721
He said bandits, not treeniggers.

Unless they're bandit treeniggers

>>183283721
WE

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>>183273319
Every time I try to play rim world I just end up thinking I should play Dwarf Fortress instead

>>183283949
>>183283721
I just recruited all of them (except the chief who wouldn't join).

What should I do with him?

>>183285597
replace the chief and become an even worse bandit gang

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Oh shit, am I fucked? What do I do?

>>183285806
They all loyalty cascaded when I attacked and I had to kill them all.

>>183286574
personally, I just seal off the caverns.

if you don't have time for that, send out some well equipped soldiers and hope that the syndrome isn't deadly. in case your soldiers fail, you may want to quickly construct a wall while they're fighting, and then deconstruct it if they win.

>>183286627
Wait, nevermind. One is still alive. I had a nice chat with him and convinced him to join me (though I did chop off his leg).

>>183286757
There was another forgotten beast already walled off in my caverns. This new *native platinum* forgotten beast made quick work of the previous one. But the caverns have my only source of non-stagnant water, so I'd like it back sometime soon. I heard blunt weapons have better chance against mineral beasts, but what do you guys think?

>>183267074
How do you know? One one of his stories is about the mystery of his true identity pounding him in the butt.

>>183287182
that thing's a beast. if you have a squad with candy weapons they can probably deal with it. send in a random peasant or an animal first to make sure the gas doesn't just paralyze them or something