/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

Some migrants have arrived.

Urist
He-Man

Herne
Hercule

Who do you want to reach the finals and who actually will?

I want He-Man Herc but it's going to be Herne and Urist

>>182901760
HE-MAN VS HERCULE

I NEED IT

Gourd.

>>182901760
I'd be fine with Urist or He-Man, they're both fun fighters. I want Herc to win his matchup.

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>>182901760
I hope He-man and Hercule win, so it'll be two legends fighting against each other.

But realistically, it's a 50/50 chance between Urist and He-man, and Herne will most likely win against Herc because adamantine cloaks, yo.

He-Man for the winner definitely, he destroyed all his opponents man.

>>182902059
I bet it's that mask Skeletor wore that's empowering him.

Are we doing semifinals tonight? Or waiting again?

>>182902053
I know that Hercule's manager said that he'd rather keep the lion cloak because it was more in keeping with his character, but I could easily mod in some "Nemean Lion Leather" that is just renamed adamantine, in case he wants to spend the points like that.

>>182902562
Semi-finals are gonna be next week, sorry lad

>>182902053
Lava top lad.

>>182901172
Blatant propaganda on the thread, Hercule's got this.
DELET THIS.

>Barely noticed the tournament was going on

Look, last time we got elf vs elf, so this time we need human vs human.

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For those who may have missed it in the last thread and might possibly be interested I'm gonna be posting this again once more. My mod is officially updated to 3.0

http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12897

New features are 3 new races that are sure to fuck your shit up, and a unique language for all 12 civilizations. If you give my mod a try, please tell me what you think of it. I could use the feedback since I probably won't be able to find all the problems by myself.

On another note though, I'm gonna talk about some particularly cool tricks I learned that might be of use to any other modders in this thread.

1. I was making a race of inbred, genetically defective mole people. I tried a bunch of different solutions to try and represent this aspect of them, but managed to discover a solution that I think works fairly well. I located their MAXAGE tag and did this to it:
[MAXAGE:10:90]

Basically, this means that they are only fit and healthy for the first ten years of their life, and beyond that their genetic deformities mean they could kick the bucket at any minute, which is what I wanted.

The second problem arose from making an insect race with fertile male drones and female queens, and sterile female workers and soldiers. The issue was that the race quickly went extinct because drones kept marrying sterile females instead of queens. The solution to this particular conundrum was surprisingly simple. I simply made the bugs gay.

Basically, I greatly increased the rate of homosexuality within soldier and worker castes, which pretty much solved the problem.

Anyway I'm done rambling, please check out my mod if it interests you and have a nice day!

Wow I fucked this post up on multiple levels. Presentation could have been much better.

>>182903253
They're putting chemicals in the water that turn the frickin bugs gay

>>182903239
>tfw it's gonna be dorf vs elkman

>>182903253
So, the military is full of fags.

Just like real life.

>>182903442
>>182903901
Y'know as soon as I posted this I knew anons would instantly fixate on the gay bugs. Never change /dfg/.

I am admittedly excited to see how the magic update will affect these tourneys when its finally released.

>>182904610
I'll finally be able to make gladiators that are just shitty fighting game references.

I can't wait.

TOURNAMENT
W
H
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>>182904610
Wouldn't that require the tourney to use a specific world-gen to create a set of rules for the magic to work?

>Crab with spell that causes full-body necrosis to itself but will probably kill the opponent before the crab fully rots

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I'm no artist, but this tournament has been severely lacking in art.

>Artifact release
>Steal artifacts from as many civs as possible in adv mode and retire
>Adventurer migrates to your fort with all the artifacts in tow
What happens, do the agents/armies declare war or what, what if he isn't a permanent resident? Do agents just come to your tavern and beat him up with you having no clue as to what's going on?

>>182905223
Big
Hearty
Keks

>>182905223
>Literally drawing furry OCs
GET OUT

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>>182905525
You're overreacting

>>182904856
Never

Tourneyanon fell down the stairs and broke his neck, killing him.

>>182905861
oh well
who's going to host the next tournament

>>182905861
Tourneyanon is dead? The horror...

>>182906186
David Attenborough

>>182905223
That's a cape Anon, not a cloak

>>182905861
It was inevitable

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Here's He-Man drawn in MS Paint using the pencil tool and shoddy colour filling bucket tool

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>>182906815
Just for you, baby.

>>182905223
I don't think Herne has eyes anymore, not after that headshot

>>182908121
Truly, the arena medics are miracle workers.

>>182907705
Nice

>>182908682
>ywn play as a top grade heal slut in adventure mode once the magic update is released

>>182902053
>Lava lad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eVNCB4ExYE

>>182908994
>Heal slut
Hot

>>182905653
Keep your sick animal fucking fantasies OUT of my /dfg/

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>>182908994
>>182909114
Get the fuck outta here with that shit

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>>182909361
We're all secretly furfaggots on the inside, my man.

>>182909421
Sorry senpai

>>182909489
Damn you my only weakness, Moths. This won't be the end you furry fucking faggot.

>>182909361
DF has animal men, if you're going to flip out every time they're mentioned/depicted because you've convinced yourself that Mickey Mouse is furry shit then it sounds like you're going to have a rough time

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/168813875/#168816998

I still want Herne to win

>>182910906
HE-MAN WILL WINCHECK MY DIGITS

Who would win in and unarmed fight?

A fly man or a mosquito man?

>>182909714
>this is furry: >>182909489
>mickey mouse isn't
huh?

>>182911675
This
>>182907795

Is what started the discussion

"Highlight this week was making sure other dwarven civilizations can in fact retaliate if you decide to bother them. So I sent my expedition leader by himself across the plains to the next mountain range to raid a mountain home. He did not survive. The next season, eight well-armed dwarves and two of their goblin buddies attacked my remaining six dwarves by the wagon. So one needs to be careful!

Current project is turning all of my dwarves into children, letting them be kidnapped by goblins, and then growing them back up so I can send them off on rescue squads."
Dorf civs can now actually fight back against the goblin horde. Nice!

>>182911873
i specifically mentioned two things, neither of which is that

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>>182911675
In addition
>>182909489
is some monster-girl tier bullshit

>>182911057
HAH
I do have something I want to write if herne loses, though. so I win either way!

Is this the worst tournament yet?

>>182909489
i know that doujin

>>182912263
Nah.
There's not really a "worst" tournament.

>>182912263
Certainly the one with most controversy.

>>182912263
No, all the elves are dead.

Reminder:
>Every mechanic has already been figured out and is well-known, so you're not allowed to ask any questions
>Every mechanic has already been figured out and is well-known, so there's no point discussing anything furthermore
>The game is a "story generator", not a game, so you can't complain about anything except the story (which is also randomly generated so you can't complain about it either)
>The game's difficulty hasn't lowered over time, that's just a meme
>The game doesn't have serious FPS problems, exaggerating those is a meme
>If I don't like something, then it's a meme
>All memes are bad except "kill elf" which is hilarious
>The game is in alpha, so you can't say anything bad about anything
>If you have anything bad to say you can't say it anywhere except in the bay12 forums (this includes passing mentions of any bug, which are inherently a bad thing)
>If you know what bay12 is, you can't post here, you need to go back

With all these rules in mind, here are the /dfg/ approved topics to post about:
* The update

>>182903253
>Basically, I greatly increased the rate of homosexuality within soldier and worker castes
Pretty sure there's an asexuality rate you could have upped instead, which'd make way more sense

>>182914049
kill elf

>>182904062
desu I'd be fine with the homosexuality if they were yinglets
but then I'd fixate on why you modded yinglets in

>>182914049
Dude, calm down. People acknowledge DF has problems and that some mechanics aren't widely understood. It's still an alpha, so you can say whatever about it, it'll most likely be changed. It's more of a game to people who want the game aspect, and a story for the ones who want a story. Quit being retarded.

>>182914049
Way too true.
But seriously though, elves are inferior to Dwarves in this game, they're literal cannibals ffs

>spend more time planning your fort than playing the game

>>182914808
>Start fort
>Can't into A E S T H E T I C
>Retire

>>182914479
Elven women were made for the BDC. lil elf bois can't get it up for them so it's up to the Dwarves

>>182915995
>being this elflet
When will they learn?

>>182915995
>Big dwarf cok
Kind of contradicts itself, leave the elf fucking to the human degenerates anyway

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>just lost whole fort of 20 dorf to a single werepig after he killed 3 skilled axedwarfs and then infected 10 more before being choked out by a 150 year old fish dissector who arrived a month before

>>182914981
>make excruciatingly picky embark
>back up save
>play for two hours
>not satisfied
>roll back save
>repeat until suicide

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>one tick after embark
This is going to be a good fort.

>>182916229
Dwarf cock is probably T H I C C as fuck though.
I never thought I'd ever write that. I am horrified and ashamed of myself.

What happens if you pour magma over weapon traps?
Are the weapon traps destroyed?

>>182916229
You know how this works, you smaller you are the bigger it is. Also, Humans don't deserve those precious Elf Ears.

>>182917427
Why do you even need weapon traps if you have magma?

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>>182918258
I want to watch the gobbos gib AND burn.

>>182918258
maybe lava for undead, traps for goblinite?

>>182903253
Hey, you still around? If so, I skimmed through your shit and there's a lot of mistakes/copy-paste errors, some of this shit I'm surprised even works. I would post it anyway for whenever you might be on, but it's a lot of stuff to get into, and I don't really want to bother unless you're here.

>>182901172
Hey anons, I come from /tg/. Is Dwarf Fortress free, or do I have to pay to download it? Does it require an account, or can I play it offline without ever having to sign up for anything? How hard is it to get into this game for a newb?

>>182922194
Completely free. Doesn't require shit, 100% offline. Extremely. Google 'starting dwarf fortress' or some shit, there's plenty of guides on getting started.

>>182922194
Dorffort is 60 dollarydoos and the collector's edition is 120.

>>182922194
free

no account, all offline

follow the wiki and you'll do fine. Though I would additionally reccommend that you download DFhack and use the built-in Stonesense application just once so you can get a good idea of how everything fits together (ASCII can be disorienting if you're not used to roguelikes).

>>182914259
>>182914049
>implying this game is ever going to leave alpha
Top KEK

>>182922194
download the lazynewb pack aka starterpack

>>182922336
>>182922384
>>182923136
Thanks anons!

What can I do to enjoy the game? pretty much every fort I build up to a decent running level and then abandon it and start again. What kind of things do you guys do to make it interesting?

>>182923463
Self-delusion, mainly.

>>182921084
>Hey, you still around? If so, I skimmed through your shit and there's a lot of mistakes/copy-paste errors, some of this shit I'm surprised even works.

haha yeah I have no fucking idea what I'm doing. Once I get it to work I just don't touch it and hope nothing breaks.

I would post it anyway for whenever you might be on, but it's a lot of stuff to get into, and I don't really want to bother unless you're here.

I'd totally be down for some feedback. I really have no idea what I'm doing.

>>182914083
I

uh

huh.

>>182904062
what is this magical realm you have thrust upon me

>>182923463
Adventure. Do shit.

And then, write.

New to /dfg/ where can I watch the tournament?

>>182924159
It's written down. Dig through the /vg/ archive and search for /dfg/ threads, it'll be on the weekend days.

>>182924296
how do I add my adventurer I got him to max fighitng

>>182924385
can't at this point. You'd have to have entered before it all started.

>>182922194
Its easy once you spend 10 minutes learning the commands and that on the wiki. you mostly just hit d to designate things like digging and stairs and b to build w workshops at which you assign what they will build.

Aight cool. I'll go through them one by one as I see things, but first, something that's true for nearly all of them is completely untouched (from dwarves) appearance modifiers (gap teeth, square-chin, splayed-out ears, convex nose, etc). They won't show up if they don't have the proper bodypart, which is probably why you didn't notice, but please remove any that the creature doesn't actually use. It's bad form to leave them in, and reduces the clutter.

Baoyo: It's a rodent-creature but no hair or tail? Also they lay eggs? No SMELL_TRIGGER? Surely rodent-people have good senses of smell. Weird, but not necessarily problems if that's what you wanted. They're also described as having a "lust for violence", yet their VIOLENCE is 0:45:100. Their BRAVERY is 0:25:50, which could be understandable for the 50k sized males, but somewhat stranger for the 100k sized females to be so cowardly.

Kalkir: An octopus which uses VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS? And also uses chitin for its bone and cartilage? Very weird to me, but they do live in trees so I suppose they might not be literal octopi? Also 8_SIMPLE_HEAD_ARMS doesn't come with hands! They can't grasp anything! Seems like you want SIX_TENACLES (except with 8 instead and possibly GRASP on the claws)? They have a kick and bite defined, but you'll never see them since they don't have teeth or legs, so they can be safely deleted. Although that does bring up a lack of STANCE parts, meaning they will always be crawling/on the ground.

Cont.

>>182925587
Whoops, meant to quote >>182923763

how do I do legends viewer while playing?

>>182925902
dfhack open legends

>>182925587

>Baoyo: It's a rodent-creature but no hair or tail? Also they lay eggs? No SMELL_TRIGGER? Surely rodent-people have good senses of smell. Weird, but not necessarily problems if that's what you wanted.

My plan is actually to avoid completely mimicking conventional animal men. They are meant to appear superficially rodent-like, but are really a classification unto themselves, as are the majority of the other species.

>They're also described as having a "lust for violence", yet their VIOLENCE is 0:45:100. Their BRAVERY is 0:25:50, which could be understandable for the 50k sized males, but somewhat stranger for the 100k sized females to be so cowardly.

This is definitely a mistake and I will fix it.

>An octopus which uses VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS? And also uses chitin for its bone and cartilage? Very weird to me, but they do live in trees so I suppose they might not be literal octopi?

See the original statement.

>Also 8_SIMPLE_HEAD_ARMS doesn't come with hands! They can't grasp anything! Seems like you want SIX_TENACLES (except with 8 instead and possibly GRASP on the claws)? They have a kick and bite defined, but you'll never see them since they don't have teeth or legs, so they can be safely deleted. Although that does bring up a lack of STANCE parts, meaning they will always be crawling/on the ground.

Ah fuck that explains a lot. I'll get to fixing that.

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Is it true that this method "pressurizes" magma into shooting out as a decent stream?

>>182917427
If all the components are magma safe then the trap is magma safe. If they're not then it isn't.

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>>182904062
That is far and away the best part of the whole thing.

>>182905223
Hell that's pretty artsy to me, keep it up.


>>182902053
Dig the lava lad pics, head under the arm is a great touch, did you do my crab wielding Adamantinated She(He) Cloak 'Staaahp' too?

>>182909714
Uh, yours might, if you're some kinda lame not!Hitler maybe, but I chucked all of mine in the ovens where they belong: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12737

>>182912057
>the old guy has a knife like everyone in game
You drawing these or just have a bunch saved?

>>182926124
If you build the pumps in the right order so the stack is designed bottom > top, suspended, then unsuspended and constructed top > bottom, which is exactly as much of a pain as it sounds, then activating the pumpstack teleports magma from your cistern to the top pump basically instantly and shit just floods out.

>>182926356
>cloakgirl(boy)
I want the cute adventures of a Cloak girl, dont get tour crab traps in here

is mudstone magma proof

>>182926929
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Magma-safe

>>182926856
Well the crabs are already shemales, it's a big part of the joke.

>>182926973
I don't like jokes, I want my magical floating cloak to be grounded and serious.

>>182926971
shit, already using it
oh well

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>>182927210
>oh well

>>182927093
>the gritty medieval berserk-esque journey of the floating adamantine cloak and her crab handmaidens (male)

FUND IT

>>182927210
why would you think magma is lava safe

>>182927731
Obsidian is magmasafe though

>>182927860
I meant mud not magma

>>182926035
I also notice many of your creatures are MUNDANE; this is generally saved for creatures that are actual real-life creatures. I'm pretty sure it only affects the Ages so if that's what you wanted, go for it.

Manat: They switch between exoskeleton and vertebrae tissue layers and between chitin and skin so much it's difficult for me to tell who has what. Some castes don't have a tissue layer body detail plan, then some have a vertebrae one, and then at the end for all castes you say everyone has an exoskeleton one. It's possible the last exoskeleton plan is overwriting the previous castes vertebrae one, but I'm not sure. I would suggest taking it out completely from the all castes spot and just making sure every caste has it's own materials/tissues/tissue layers definition, unless you're absolutely certain it applies to everyone. It's more text, but it should make it much more clear what caste exactly has what. At the very least I note the nobles are described as having chitin, and even have chitin colorations, but use vertebrae tissue layers and skin. And please for the love of god, format these things. Use that tab button! If you're still using notepad, get a real text editor! Especially since I'm about to throw line numbers at you.

Joghadai, line 384,
Silanif, lines 26-29, all missing opening brackets.

Vulc: Baby names! Maybe they only turn into vulcs when they're an adult, eh? They've got tusks, too, may as well give them a gore attack, unless you think they wouldn't be big enough.

Cont.

>>182905653
I like to imagine that that's a mustache, not a mouth when I read this comic

>>182928502
>manat

hoo boy. This was the first race I made and they are by far the most frankensteined and fucked up of my creature files, which funnily enough fit them thematically. I'll try to iron everything out.

>If you're still using notepad, get a real text editor!

I just use plain text, what would you recommend?

>Joghadai, line 384,
>Silanif, lines 26-29, all missing opening brackets.

All right I think I managed to sort these out. Usually when I remove the brackets from something its because I want it removed from the creature but am also worried it might fuck things up in the future so I keep the rest of the line intact in case I want to add it in.

>Vulc: Baby names! Maybe they only turn into vulcs when they're an adult, eh? They've got tusks, too, may as well give them a gore attack, unless you think they wouldn't be big enough.

ah fuck I missed that, it's been fixed.

>>182929528
I use Atom. It's designed for programming but it works well for plain text too. Easily allows for switching between files in a folder, and you can do neat things like selecting several lines and indenting or unindenting all of them at once with a single tab or shift-tab press.

Woor:
Don't give them natural climbing skill, speed up their climbing gait. 5kph is positively anemic, even with good climbing skills. 6 arguments in the vertebrae detail plan! I have no idea how the game is handling this, but it seems like you just meant to replace the skin with chitin.

Xing: Stop switching between castes! Put those gaits and body sizes where you first defined them. Also the two sections which have the gaits in them are the same. I'm assuming you meant to change the first one later, because you gave all the castes flying. This is just a personal suggestion, but maybe add a few more organs to them? In general, the longer the BODY list is, the more interesting they are to fight, more things to grapple, more things to interact with.

Yotunmen:
You claim they're cold to the touch, but with a homeotherm of 10067, they're just as warm as a dwarf. You can reduce this somewhat but going to 10000 or lower (which I totally would) would necessitate changes to how easily their blood freezes, and the COLDDAM_POINTs of their tissues. Or even further, you could make a kind of ice with a fixed temperature that makes up some of their tissues, and literally make them out of enchanted ice.

>>182931106
>Woor

All right I'll fix all that. I envisioned them as big, apelike mosquitos. I guess I'll just completely replace their layers with bug layers instead of trying to compromise. No idea how to go about that but I guess its time for more experimenting.

>Xing

I actually just ripped them from the ant man raws so what you see there is more or less just them with some bits added. I'll see about the gaits and stuff.

>Yotunmen

>You can reduce this somewhat but going to 10000 or lower (which I totally would) would necessitate changes to how easily their blood freezes, and the COLDDAM_POINTs of their tissues.

I will fix this by making it 10010 instead.

>>182932095
10001*

>>182924385
>how do I add my adventurer I got him to max fighitng

What in the fuck are you trying to say son?

>>182933613
He got him to me fighit which is impressive since I didn't even know people were aware that I'm a master fighiter.

[NATURAL_SKILL:foo:x]

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>>182933783

>>182933783
...I didn't quite catch that.

>>182932095
The Woor will work out perfectly fine if you just use chitin in place of their skin. A vertebrae body, but with a layer of chitin. Only downside is that it will be rather thin without more intensive modifications. Remember that you totally can, and even should make new body parts and body detail plans if the default stuff is too rigid.

>I will fix this by making it 10001 instead.
Well, see that doesn't really fix the problem, it makes it worse even. Now they're dwarves except with 66 degrees less protection from the effects of cold, and would mean they'd have to avoid cold places like the plague. I'd highly suggest modifying their blood's melting point, I'm pretty sure you can just specify a new one right when you import it.

Hlira:
700 lines, Jesus. First two castes missing opening bracket on FLIER. Huge missed opportunity with the lodra. Make their wings actually made of stone, bitch. There's your homework. I'm slightly confused by the ambrosia bits. I think what you want is to say

[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:TRANSMOGRIFIER:CREATURE_EXTRACT_TEMPLATE]
ambrosia w/e

First, and then,

[CDI:MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:TRANSMOGRIFIER:TRAILING_VAPOR_FLOW]

You make a new material, using a template, give it a new name, and then say use my new renamed material. I think before it would've just been ignored your ambrosia which you called VENOM because you never referenced it to be used, you just referenced the plain unaltered template. That's my understanding of the system anyway.

>>182934245
All right, I'll get on checking all that out. Also, you might want to check the lore document included with the mod. A few of the things you mentioned are explained in that.

Also the ambrosia works exactly like it should for some reason. I also wondered why originally but I stopped questioning how things worked a long time ago. I'll play around with that and your other suggestions though. I haven't made new materials for body parts before so that will be a new frontier for me if I give it a go.

https://youtu.be/G2uWrsF_u2g?t=621
>I actually found another DF lets player I like.

Guys DF lets players are the highest quality lets players, its not even close.

>>182934985
That tileset!
Not completely terrible though, I'll give him that. Decent editing and isn't crippled by convention.

>>182935678
Its a pretty shit tileset. Probably like the first DF lets player that's actually made me laugh though.

>We can't even be outside right now, LEST THE BARN OWL CORPSES FUCK US UP

>>182934791
It's surprisingly easy to make random body parts made out of weird stuff. Take look at this if you want https://pastebin.com/KK0eJBWD It's a relatively normal animal, but made of shit like gold and platinum, and it doesn't cheat like the bronze colossus does where it just says everything is made of bronze and doesn't even have any body parts beyond its humanoid body. The idea would be to create a new tissue using the slade material that would replace feathers. I don't want to overwhelm you, but it's fun stuff.

Nelfa converts are OPPOSED_TO_LIFE and Nelfai aren't meaning, regardless of what it was doing before, it will immediately try to murder the Nelfa that converted it. If that's intentional, than carry on. Missing opening bracket on both Yoerai and Ritvhai NO_DRINK. They all have the same flying gait so you can safely move that with the rest of the gaits at the end. Nelfa converts can't fly, but as long as they lack the FLIER token they won't be able to, even with a flying gait defined. I know some of my suggestions don't actually have an affect on the game, but it's very important generally to make things as neat and clear as possible, especially if you'll be coming back often to tweak things.

Ganbu have SPHERE_ALIGNMENT:WAR:512, but also have defined religious spheres. I honestly don't know exactly how those two interact, but I prefer to stick to just one. That alignment seems a bit out-of-character for them, so I think you might've just forgotten to delete it. Interesting that they think eating their own race is a personal matter, killing animals is acceptable, but eating other races is unthinkable. Unless that's a mistake.

>>182934985
That's a nice intro.

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>>182936459
>https://pastebin.com/KK0eJBWD

will check out

>If that's intentional, than carry on
yep its meant to be like that.

>Unless that's a mistake.
eating their own isn't a mistake, the war stuff is.

I'll also take a look at all the other stuff.

>tfw this whole time

my dwarves aren't drinking from my well?

>>182937056
Are they injured?

Do they have buckets?

what's it called when you dump a bucket of water into zone to create mud for farming? I forget what's required for that

>>182936743
A bunch of races have the same art image element modifiers and item improvement modifiers and autumn for their active season, not mistakes really, but something you might want to diversify a bit more. Kalkir loving mountains despite relying on their trees seems odd, but doesn't seem like a mistake. And I know that dwarves to us are "normal" so being able to make steel and adamantine are assumed, but no vanilla race other than dwarves can do it, so I feel like you should give a bit more thought to which races should get steel and adamantine.

And that's pretty much it.

>>182938107
Pit/Pond, it's under i zones. You have to press p to turn it into a pond in the settings. Pond zones have to be set over the pond itself with space to dump the bucket from

>>182938258
Good points. I honestly forgot about the whole Adamantine thing so I'll adjust that now. Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it. Its definitely a lot to go over but I'll wear away at it. Hopefully before the next release because I have 4 cave-dwelling races planned that are gonna use the kobold sites.

>can't find a good colour set
>just make my own instead by taking parts I liked from others
I highly recommend it.

>>182938382
Alright thanks, but I got an error.
>dwarve cancels fill pond: inappropriate building

>>182939193
I highly recommend you go find someone to make you happy and live a fulfilling life.

>>182939280
>This error occurs if a dwarf tries to fill a pond and the pond zone isn't over open space. To fix it, channel underneath the pond zone, or delete the pond zone and make another over open space.
You have to put the pond zone at least one z level above, so they can drop the water down and the zone itself has to be on the edge like how you have to anchor a bridge.

>>182939364
I'm very fulfilled at the moment, thank you.

I can't believe Romero is dead.

is there a way in Therapist to quickly search labors? I don't look forward to bending my neck looking at the vertical categories one by one each time I want to assign a labor to a dorf

>>182939576
Oh
okay thanks again

>>182940425
if it's internally in your fortress often you can just channel out a single tile above it and build a floor over later since you hardly need any water to create mud.

>The Stray Puppy <Tame>(male) has been slaughtered

/dfg/ has been missing for a week

>>182942710
No

>>182942710
It was inevitable

>>182942710
A Bump! Curse them!

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>Steal tons of artifacts in adv mode
>Migrate to player fort
>Six civs come demanding the stolen artifacts
Do you protect your special boy/girl or sell them out?

>>182943618
sell them out
good bye

I wonder if the topics/knowledge arc stuff will allow things like this to be made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR234dzDo4E

Artifacts having mechanic components/hidden blades isn't too far out there either down the road, especially since one story (I think maybe an ascii one) involved a staff that granted the wielder fighting prowess/had multiple buttons along its length to deploy various blades (an evil wizard is tricked into activating a series of blades that cut off his own hands at one point)

>>182943618
Protect them, I will NOT allow my comrades to be taken by fascist pigs.

>>182944356
That's a neat weapon.

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>>182944835
It'd be cool if toady ends up making it possible (through vanilla or throwing a bunch of options in via mods) for the worldgen to get as crazy as real life

how to dump corpses in lava
some elves attacked me and I don't know what to do with all these bodies

>>182945215
Create a hatch over the lava, designate it as a dump, have the corpses dump there, pull the lever?

can dfhakc be used to find ores on a map?

>>182945771
Yes.

>>182945797
neat
how can that be done? all I found was digvx, but I don't know where any ore is in the first place, and would like to be pointed in the right direction

>>182945835
reveal and unreveal shows and hides the entire map

>>182945835
Also locate-ore command for metal ores.

why shouldn't I always use dump zones instead
of stockpiles?

>>182946549
that one crashed my game
locate-ore HELMATITE
I got another question, how to use advanced worl parameters to make more volcanoes in a world?

>>182946734
why shouldn't you just wall yourself in?

>>182947278
I was asking seriously, I don't know what the advantages of stockpiles are

>>182947291
not him, but that answer should cover your question as well.

because what you asked was basically
>why use a legitimate feature and play the game in a somwehat more challenging way, when I can use a broken feature and remove any small challenge the game still offers?

my own answer to your question is simple: DF is a single player game, so do however you like. no one's going to accuse you of cheating, but you might cheat yourself off the playing experience.

>>182947240
>HELMATITE
>HELM
Well of course you dumbass.

Prostitution when?

When an NPC is described as having slit eyes, do they mean like really narrow eyes or cat-looking eyes with the oval pupil?

>>182948282
It means he's asian

can I force a civilization to be at war somehow?

>>182948214
Romance Arc

>>182947240
increase the volcano count? I'm pretty sure that's an explicit option.

also, for your other concern:
>>182948086

>>182948214
I want to see an elven maiden (male) penetrate a dwarven lad (lass)

>>182949453
wait till next update

>>182950865
no

>>182950903
Oh well then no, there are no ways.

>>182950980
one good way is to give them ISIS-tier ethics that makes them wage war on civs with more reasonable ethics.

this is the reason that elves wage war on dorfs and humans so often. I guess you could make elves even more aggressive by making their ethics stronger in that direction.

you could also try to play with spheres to get some nice sectarian violence going.

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bump my dorfs

>>182953814
My haulers even want raises

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dump my dorgs

>>182955704
A bump? What is it this time?

>>182956189
I have heard of plans to assassinate /dfg/.

>>182956320
I was nauseated by this shitpost. So disgusting!

>>182956491
I'm still amazed by how much the lines used for talking about emotions sound like Trump tweets.

they follow the exact same formula:
>[thing that happened]+[very brief description of own thoughts on the matter]

>>182957085
The battle rages... I laugh in the face of SJWs!

Guys a bucket just moved by itself, I fucking saw it, no dorf or any other thing near it. What happened?
It's a masterwork bucket if it helps.

>>182958036
>It's a buggy POS bucket if it helps
There's your answer

>>182958036
Your fortress is haunted, get some slabs

>>182958036
post a screenshot of the place to give us some context.

any reason why my dorfs go outside to the river to drink? I have plenty of wine

>>182960412
are you sure they're drinking?

aren't they just washing themselves?

also, where is the wine? can the dorfs reach it?

>>182960487
no, they were drinking. The wine is in a stockpile next to the kitchen. I have it set to feed the kitchen, could that be the issue?

>>182960558
now my broker was thirsty and just went for the wine... weird

>Finally got a pair of Polar bears to breed.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

>>182962902
>local anon cheers for two polar bears fucking, later found measuring the size of stairwells

anyone here ever tried a jabberer farm/ war jabberers? i want to make a fort entirely around them

>>182960558
are you sure there's actual wine in your booze stockpile?
if you have lots of drinks but they're all stored in soldiers' waterskins, they'll still show up in your stocks screen, but obviously civilians won't be able to use them

>>182947595
How are dump zones cheating?

>>182967512
they're not. but if you exploit them for quantum stockpiles, you avoid the challenge of managing storage space.

did you even read my post? I specifically said that no one would accuse you of cheating in a game like DF.

>>182967512
They're not.

>stockpiles can be set to accept only certain items (wood, stone, finished goods), dump zones accept everything that is set to be dumped
>stockpiles can be linked to other stockpiles or workshops, dump zones can not
>stockpiles take more space but each tile shows exactly what item is present, dump zones have everything stacked on 1 tile
Just to name a few differences

>>182905525
RUDE!

>check artifacts
>all my works of literature are gone
FUCKING HUMAN THIEVES.

>>182968291
if you make a 1x1 stockpile at the bottom of your dump pit, and them unforbid the stuff there, I think it counts as being in the stockpile, and can be managed as such.

>>182905525
the traits are far too zoomorphic to be considered furry.

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>spend a long time setting up the perfect embark
>get spawn camped by alligators

>>182968734
Very wrong by any margin or standard
t. flaming furfag
p.s. nobody uses that word

>>182968883
I only count 6 corpses.
You can still do it Anon, it's not too late!

>>182969564
what word?

>>182969575
It would be extremely painful.

An ambush! Curse all friends of nature!

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>>182968883

So how do you play adventure mode with peasant level point buy? It is too hard? Do you have to grind and cheese?

>>182970689
You're a big guy

>>182974193
Pretty much dump all your points in dodge, grind throwing, and huck things at people.

>>182968734
t.
Dog fucker

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>>182974787
Those're just elves.

>>182974762
Is throwing still fluffy wambler over powered? Or has it been tonned down

Another thing that'll be !!FUN!! during magic arc development is Toady trying to tackle how high magic rules work. In an interview he brought up how it'll be tough/interesting it will be to make the world react properly to teleportation being commonplace.

Actual tourneys in DF when?

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>>182977328
>!!FUN!!

>>182977542
>Agent infiltrates your fort disguised as gladiator so as to enter with his weapons without arousing suspicion

Toady implementing more invasion methods/antagonist types is going to be sweet.
>gobbo enters fort with grappling hook, skulks through the streets/halls and poisons the entire stock of a food that only your baron likes
>Bandits make a hidden tunnel into your fort and storm your surface markets
>Elves throw poisonous shit from their giant eagles before fucking off

>>182978565
>stock of a food that only your baron likes
too bad dwarves with preferences don't even seek out food they like, huh?

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>>182978891
Give it time

>>182978891
Thank d-g, imagine a dwarf trying and failing to path to the one barrel of aardvark kidney roast that a dozen other dwarfs like.

>>182978891
Burrow it.

>>182978565
you forgot:
>goblin spy emptying a bag of rotting vermin remains into your well, spoiling the water
>goblins sending kidnapped and indoctrinated children back to their homes. the children claim to have escaped on their own, and will act as agents for the goblins

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fucking bump my dorfg

I decided to do another test, this time to test the effectiveness of two different sets of adamantine armor, one set, composed of an adamantine cloak, hood, pair of gauntlets and pair of high boots vs a regular full set of armor, adamantine helm, mail shirt, breastplate, greaves, gauntlets and high boots.

The sets of the test are divided in three groups composed of three sets each, in each group the humans will be using a different weapon, for example in the first group the humans will be using platinum hammers, in the second they'll use adamantine battle axes and in the third adamantine spears, this is to see if one of the sets of armor has a particular weakness against a one of the types of weapon (blunt, slashing or piercing). In each set a hundred humans wearing the first set of armor will fight a hundred humans wearing the second set of armor, in individual fights, also, in each set the humans will have different skills, for example, in the first set, the humans will have no skills, while in the second set they will have adept armor user, dodging and weapon skill, and in the third set they will have those same skills but at grand master level, this is the same for each group of sets.

I'm not sure if I explained this correctly, if you have any dobuts then just go take a look at the results here and you will understand what I was doing: https://pastebin.com/YKuhgkiD

I'll post the observations in the next post.

>>182983164
Well, the results speak for themselves, the humans with the full set of armor didn't manage to win once, they came close a few times, but it was never enough, the humans with cloaks clearly have an advantage over them, their set of armor is better, there's no reason to use an adamantine mail shirt, breastplate and greaves if you have an adamantine cloak, the adamantine cloak will cover more and protect better than the three other armor pieces together, and you can stack cloaks, for even more protection. Same thing with adamantine hoods, there is no reason to use an adamantine helm if you have an adamantine hood, and you can stack hoods for even more protection.

Regarding the tournament, the first set of armor (adamantine cloak, hood, pair of gauntlets and pair of high boots) costs 696 points in total, and it would cost even less if tourneyanon didn't decide to double the price of the adamantine cloaks, while the full set of armor (adamantine helm, mail shirt, breastplate, greaves, pair of gauntlets and pair of high boots) costs 1002 points in total. Basically, with the first set of armor, you're getting better protections for 306 less, so there's basically no reason to go and get the full set of adamantine armor.

Hey Tourneyanon, hope you see this

I'll take
Grand Master Maceman for 135 points;
Accomplished Dodger for 135 points
Skilled Discipline for 21 points
(291 total)
12 points left over

Adamantine a shit

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>second migrant wave
>haven't even considered making a military yet
>suddenly, fucking wereelephant megabeast out of nowhere
I guess it's time to reroll.

>>182985941
I don't know how to deal with werebeast attacks either. They always infect my entire militia

>>182985941
>>182986619
You could just seal them off and wait for them to turn back

>>182986831
The fort it happened to was reliant on gathering. Either way I think they are too infectious, they have a 100% infection rate and if sealing up is the only way to deal with them then that's shit.

>>182986961
They don't have a 100% infection rate, I know for sure my militia leader got bit and didn't turn.
Anyways, what is your militia like? I always focus on getting a weapon and mail shirt for 5 dorfs as fast as possible, even if it means a copper mail.

>>182987207
They got infected by the blood it sprayed when they smashed it to death in 3 turns and no one was injured by it.

>>182987410
they might have had already open wounds and the wereblood got into their cuts. don't know if you turn into a werecreature if you ingest the blood

>>182983330
Just fucking ban adamantine clothing already, there's no good reason to keep it in the tournament

>>182987881
Agreed. I'm fine with keeping armor, but all the clothing really needs to get removed.

>>182987881
>>182988050
It's too late to remove it from this tourney, but it should be removed from the next one, if there is one.

>>182988598
Yeah, that's what I meant. Let this tourney play out, but next time remove it as an option.

>>182985941
I almost forgot how cancerous the stock tile- and color set is.
>>182986619
Just seal yourself in and wait for it to transform.
Or dig out an alternate entrance with a proper security checkpoint lined with slicing/drowning/gassing/atomsmashing devices.

>>182988821
gassing?

>>182989002
You can create a gas chamber by dropping heavy things into magma to produce magma mist.
Less of a bother than pumping and draining magma every time you need to purge the undesirables and way classier than just dropping a bridge on them.

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>one round lasts for 24 hours max
>have to wait a whole fucking week for next round
What the fuck, why not just wait for the update before we have the next round while we're at it.

>>182989320
How long does mist persist? How do I get it where I need it? I've never heard of this method before but it sounds cool

>>182989837
Depends, I don't think it can travel more than 3 tiles high or wide so you need to generate it where you need it.
Easiest way is to have a room with a tile channeled into a magma reservoir one z-level below and drop items from a dump zone set directly above it on top of a retractable bridge or a hatch.
Or you could use it with a lava moat and a track stop dump atop the wall to create something along the lines of murder holes.

>>182990757
So have blocks placed on dump zones on hatches above the lava next to the path and connect them to a lever to dump them all at once into the lava?

>>182979456
>implying they need subterfuge at all when they can just visit your tavern

>>182986961
>they have a 100% infection rate
no. they have to break the skin, and even then, there's RNG involved, and a pretty big chance to get away without getting infected.

>sealing up is the only way to deal with them
it's not. not if you set up your militia early on, and provide them with a decent weapon and a shield.

>>182987410
>They got infected by the blood
no, that's not how it works

What exactly is there to do in Adventure Mode? It looks like there are tons of things you can't do compared to fort mode and basically the only meaningful thing your adventurer can do is fight wildlife. Am I missing something?

I can't wait to be able to filter out races and different types of visitors to my taverns.

>>182992658
adv mode is very bare compared to fort mode, no doubt about that.

there are still tons of things you can do, though, if you can just set up your own goals and then use the game features to reach them.

personally, I've recently discovered the fun in building increasingly complex and difficult obstacle courses, and then use my parkour skills to run through them.

>>182992658
Advfort lets you use fort labors in adv mode.

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>>182993972
>using advfort to work instead of nonsense

>>182995995
did you just eat a dwarf?

>>182997620
My friend drank two.

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I wish stonesense showed bolts in flight

>>182992654
>no. they have to break the skin, and even then, there's RNG involved, and a pretty big chance to get away without getting infected.
fuck sake, everytime
it IS 100% sure

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I would give my firstborn for some mod about poppies, milk of the poppy and opium

Come on niggas from /dfg/, help a brother out

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>>182999710
>they never went on a weremammoth rampage and infected entire towns except those fuckers who simply wouldn't turn
Hi, I'm tilesetanon, but you may remember me from such faggotry as The Weremammothening, or The Weremammothening 2: Smells like Weremoose.

I'm here today to let you know that you're mistaken about this new exciting fact!

>>183000380
All right I'm giving you some moral support, now do it you fucking faggot

anyone feel like arguing about tilesets? Fuck square tilesets amirite?

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>>183000630
>there were far more people bit besides the ones turned here
>I've returned to a site with a dudes arm in my mouth and he still wasn't turned
>totally 100%

>>183001762
Fuck yeah!

>>183001762
I like square tilesets.

>>182923463
Look up mega projects and stupid dwarf tricks on the wiki. Or come up with your own constructions. I've been working on building a massive castle.

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>>183002151
maybe you will like this tileset I made senpai

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>>183003504
demo

There is literally no difference between a square and a rectangle.

>>183003658
imagine having THIS opinion

>>183001762
>having a literally distorted worldview

>>183003658
Tilesets literally don't make a difference at all. I don't understand what's all the fuss.

>>183005304
Autism.

>>183000736
Deep down I actually dont know how to mod shit

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>>183003658

>>183006308
what's the second one down under pixellated vomit, the inconsistent clusterfuck one? I wanna try that.

>>182976252
Just throw bolts and arrows.

best animals to embark with?

>>183006604
Looks like phoebus.

>>183006757
Turkeys, dogs, and cats is what I always embark with.

>>183005304
Well, they do make a difference. It's just a cosmetic, inconsequential difference. That said, I do enjoy silently judging anon for his inferior taste.

>>183006757
Alpacas

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>make an adventurer
>start as a bandit
>go around attacking people my boss tells me to attack
>am seen as a villain by all who know me
>one day my camp is attacked by monsters, everyone killed except for me.
>flee beaten and horribly injured into the night
>crawl into the nearest building I can find, a castle of one of the local hamlets
>The family takes pity on me and lets me stay
>repay them by roughing up some goons that were causing trouble in their village
>"the defenseless are safer from outlaws, thank you"
>start doing this sort of thing more often
>eventually my reputation as a hero overshadows my reputation as a brigand
>become a hearthperson
>retire in the same village I turned my life around in

It is a good feel

>>183007898
What do you mean "attacked by monsters"?

>>183006757
a cat of each sex is enough to kill any hateable vermin in sight, 2 dogs of each can be good defense for your fortress early on against kobolds and wild animals, and 5 turkeys of each. You don't need that many turkeys for breeding because 1 male can fertilize all females, but I like to bring extra because turkeys are cheap and bringing a lot of turkeys to butcher early on is cheaper than bringing actual meat.

>>183008003
lions and tigers and bears oh my

>>183008003
I went to sleep in the camp and I woke up with night trolls tearing into my bros. Apparently a lair was nearby and they stumbled into my camp in their nightly wanderings.

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Tfw so autistic i am doing a new drawing every day of my dorfs, their features exactly as described in the character sheets, and playing only one ingame season every few days to pace myself and keep up my drawings w the game

>>183008445
post ur draws

>>183008445
this is very autistic my dude

post them

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>>183006308
fukken saved

>>183007898
I like how despite the fact that it is very bare bones adventure mode manages to be an excellent story generator a lot of the time.

>>183006763
I think he meant the one under phoebus

>>183008003
>>183008135
Can confirm. Have seen it happen before in a town, everyone was getting mauled by a night troll. Fortunatelly my adventurer was pretty strong at that point so I dealt with him rather quickly.

how to reclaim workshops?

>>183008445
howdy Kruggmsash

>>183009426
duerer, iirc.

it's pretty cool for its novelty, but nothing I'd personally want to play with.

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>>183010467

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>>183008923
>>183008974
i am not a very good artist, but here you go. I also do not have a scanner, so sorry for potato quality.

"Strike the Earth!"

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>>183011102
"You have struck Hematite!"

>>183010916
Who is the original artist of that one anyways?

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>>183011183
"She was ANNOYED after having a drink without a goblet, cup, or mug."
bully away lads

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>>182914049
>The game's difficulty hasn't lowered over time
Haha, good one xD

>>183011102
>>183011183
This is my favourite kind of autism.

Carry on my friend.

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>>183011102
>>183011183
They look real cute, anon!
>tfw I'm retarded at drawing

what the fuck just happened?
>under siege, going fine
>first wave of 4 waltzed right though my entrance due to a lever failure but were butchered in the ramp into the fort proper by the militia who were going up to their posts
>bridges are up, second wave is sitting in the outdoor stockpile in front of the gates
>all locked up while I craft some doors to keep dipshit marksdwarves in their pillboxes instead of running outside to stand in front of them
scrolling past the gobs sitting in the field when I notice a disturbance
>captain of the guard has somehow appeared in the middle of them and started throwing teeth around
>killed two and grievously mangled a third
>slit the fourth's throat and stabbed the final one in the arm
how did she get out there? she'd have had to bypass a dozen drawbridges, and they didn't run to meet her; they were exactly where they had been. it's like she dropped out of the sky.

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>>183011341
>>183011379
thx fellas, will post todays drawing when i get around to doing it

>>183011102
>>183011183
>>183011272
Thems some nicely good drawings, Mr. Autist.

>>183011228
unironically Kruggsmash

>>183011102
ah fuck continuity error
>>183011272

J U S T
no GOBLETS guess its back to square one

>>183012449
I guess he has been around for a while.

>>182914049
holy shit, how did I miss this gem when skimming through the thread this morning.

you really are butthurt.

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>>183011272
>>183011183
>>183011102
these are great

>>183011102
>>183011183
>>183011272
Dang dude, these are great. Do you think you could do some drawfagging for the tourney someday?

>>183011183
>>183011102
your dwarves seem awfully semitic for some reason

>>183013456
gee, I wonder why

>>183000380
Things to smoke, pipes, and smoking circle events was one of Toady's goals from his old consolidated development page. Things from that page sometimes wander into updates so they may or may not be included in a couple years.

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>>183011102
>says not a good artist
>actually pretty good
bro come on

>>183012962
What is that picture trying to say?

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Adventure mode can be pretty fun

>>183007898
>That was a worthy post, you are something of a poster, thank you for all you do.

>>183013969
he loves his honeny and is going to film their love making

>>183012962
thanks!

>>183013221
Thanks. Sure? maybe?

>>183013808
th-thanks

>>183013456
Yeah, I imagine the "caps" in the game as those jewey hats. the expedition leader (fatty) is also described in game as having a hooked nose.

>>183014446
>a kea has stolen a leather yalmulke!

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>>183014085
indeed

until your companions steal your kills and tell you to get gud

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>>183011272
"Mebzuth Melbilbomrek has created a masterpiece date palm wood barrel!"

>>183015349
oy gevalt!

>>183014085
You're mistaken. Either you've been tricked into thinking you're having fun or you're experiencing a bug and should make a report on the tracker.

>>183017519
fun fact, barrelmakers are known as Coopers. know anyone with that last name? well their ancestors probably made barrels.

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>>183014085
>went back into legends and checked Amustk's history
>he was 11 years old

Do you guys think the bugged adventure mode sieges will be fixed in the next update?

Does Toady know about the bug?

>>183018598
It's not on the bug tracker as far as I can tell.

Add it yourself, good sir anon...

>>183014085
Naine got revenge!!! Satisfying. Good post.

>>183018598
He's acknowledged it multiple times and he won't drop what he's doing to work on every autist's favorite issues.