/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

First for He-man will win

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Herne's switched back to a pike with an adamantine cloak
Does this change your thoughts on the GWaG fight?

First for capturing elf merchants and using them to train war animal

>>182747989
THIS
GLORY TO HE MAN

>>182748057
There are two possibilities

>gorilla turns Herne into a pincushion before he can get close enough to attack
or
>Herne charges at gorilla and turns him into kebab on a stick

>>182748226
Is this a better chance for HERNE than sticking to the bow?

>>182748057
What are your dream victories?
I'd love Trihard, He-Man, Gorilla and Herc.
Realistically, thinking Urist, 50/50, Herne, Probably Steve but it's closer.

>>182748397
>What are your dream victories?
Trihardin, Larva Lad, Herne, Herc
>Realistically
Trihard, He-Man, Herne, Herc

>>182748057
>>182748185
>>182748226
>>182748297
>>182748397
>>182748525
TOURNEY WHEN

>>182748593
In an hour

H Y P E

>>182748719
>In an hour
lmaoing at you

>>182748719
if you're bsing me I'll find you

>>182748057
Trihardin
He man
Herne
Steve

Trihardin
Herne

Trihardin is champion
Stabbo wins battle royale

>>182748750
>>182748751
If you've been following Tourneyanon's post you would know im right.

>>182749054
I just woke up wtf anon
it's saturday

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>>182748853
>>182748525
>People not doubting Trihardin.
QUICK, GO BACK TO DOUBTING, IT FUELS HIM.

>>182749170
Trihardin will win the tourney

>>182749170
Trihardin is a VERY strong gladiator at this point.

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JC will win Battle Royale.
Mark my words

What does ThreeToe's wife look like?

>>182749628
Fuck off

>>182749628
she probably has five toes

>>182749628
>a balding furry who looks 20 years older than he is and who has never had a real job is not only not a virgin but is married while you have never had a gf
not sure if this should give me hope or despair

>>182749898
this is what I thought
where does he even meet women, I thought they sit around drawing and jerking each other off, and play their musical instruments

>>182749472
>>182749294
Inb4 Trihardin loses to Urist now that people actually believe in him.

SO IN LIKE AN HOUR?
can I get a re-cap on the previous tournaments?

>>182750084
zach isn't all that involved in DF anymore. he still helps out with brainstorming ideas and drawing crayon rewards, but he also has a life of his own. I think he and tarn have been drifting apart lately.

I've got a dorf taken by a mood and he wants cloth...thread, and blocks...bricks. I've got both. Granted I don't have alot of cloth but I do have it. What do?

>>182750754
>in an hour
Sorry but the tourney is over. Tourneyanon2 was killed in a werezebra attack 3 days ago, may he rip in pip.

>>182751112
>killed by a striped ass
f

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what did he mean by this

>>182751020
What does he do? Is he making his own games now?

>>182753061
throws around his patreon dosh and gets bitches

>>182753061
Getting Married.

Will dorfs admire creatures only if in a cage or will they do it even if the creatures are "free" but behind bars?

>>182753190
I mean where is his income going to come from if he's not going to work on DF?

>>182753316
Autism Awareness campaigns.

>>182753316
His wife.

Final will be He-Man vs. Herne

>>182754991
I don't agree.

>>182753316
I think he has another job now. he had to quit his blue collar job after he fucked up his back, but I vaguely recall toady saying that zach had another job now.

>>182754991
Gorilla with a gun should go all the way to the finals

>>182756128
I cannot see this happening. As soon as one guy gets into close combat with him he's a gone gorilla

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>>182756128
>implying the big ape's pathetic copper bolts will be able to pierce an adamantine cloak

>>182756570
Which is why Herne needs to lose, cheese armour is much worse than the crab

>>182756570
Get gorilla some adamantine bolts

>>182756743
Why? It seems like a good counter to the bolts. If I was Herne's manager I'd have done the same.

>>182757209
Adamantine bolts bounce off adamantine armor.

>>182750084
I have a theory.
After the patreon money started rolling in, Threetoe was finally getting enough of Toady's money to outsource Toady's diaper changes to cheap immigrant laborers. With a steady stream of mexican changing ladies to choose from, and the increased institutional hostility to illegal immigrants brought in by the recent regime change, it was only a matter of time before one desperate enough to marry him for citizenship came along. In a few years we'll see a development slowdown after the anchor baby is old enough for mamacita to start working again, she divorces Zach, and Toady's diaper changes become less frequent and efficient while Zach shakes the rust off.

>>182758103
Does bashing work against adamantine?

>>182758797
Yeah.

>>182756570
>>182756743
>falling for the adamantine cloak meme

>>182758703
This.

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Why does everyone hate the crab?

>>182759245
It killed a Very Good Boy.

>>182759245
I didn't mind the crab, I minded all the faggots forcing their unfunny memes on the thread OVER and OVER again

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>>182759361
There's always more dogs, a crab that can hold a knife doesn't seem to common.

>>182759363
And yet, here we are.

>>182759467
Sporulation was very amusing, yes.

>>182759467
Dogs and crabs are not equals. Dog's are intelligent. They have personalities, emotions, hopes, fears. They're special. And Wilbo was special even among dogs. Crabs don't have personalities. Sometimes they have knives, though, so I guess that's something. A cursory image search suggests that it's a more common phenomenon than you think.

>>182759467
the crab has been dead for a week, you can stop your meming

>inb4 herne's manager was grasping at straws by looking into the super secret and intimidating raws

>Trying to kill a FB with dog bone bolts

Well this will take time it seems

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Can I do anything with this?

>>182762568
Nope.

BEGONE

>>182766021
YOU ARE NOT MY LIEGE

hey /dfg/, help me out - i saw a DF comic years ago here, involving walling the expedition leader / mayor in with some demons. The booze stockpile was walled in as well. I remember the comic ending with the guy screaming at Armok

>Bruising the hearth, bruising the brain

Are not these suppose to be insta death , i am still tossing bolts at the FB

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>>182766021

>>182766472
A bruised heart does nothing, and a bruised brain doesn't always cause death.

>>182766141
One day we'll be playing Total War: Slaves to Armok.

Maybe.

>>182766472
No. Brains can be bruised, and rarely even have "tendons" in the skull torn and still survive. Almost any heart injury is survivable, and heart bruises are never fatal.

tourney when

>>182767734
Never.

Tourneyanon died of cancer yesterday.

>>182767734
I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but tourneyanon passed away yesterday from a stroke.

>>182767734
Sadly, Tourneyanon died from FPS death IRL.

>>182767734
No reason to be worried. A necromancer was called upon to resurrect Stabbo's corpse for the next round.

So after a dwarf gets all the items he needs for a mood, you can forbid anything but the base item and get the item without added clutter on the item, or if they use an item you don't want them to use.
Neat.

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>>182769107
Necromancer?
What necromancer?
I don't see a necromancer anywhere.

Tourneyanon has been found dead, dehydrated.

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Man, my artifacts so far are lame.

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We thank you for your service, Urist McUselessPeasant

>>182770024
Death is all around us. This cannot horrify me.

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dfhack r2: https://github.com/DFHack/dfhack/releases/tag/0.43.05-r2

>>182768450
>>182768529
>cancer
>stroke
...which... which is it?

>>182770517
It is not that hard to siphon magma without killing anyone

>>182770696
Stroke induced by a cancer embolus detaching.

>>182770024
It was inevitable.

What should we do with Tourneyanon's corpse?

>>182770790
I read that as "It is not that hard to siphon smegma without killing anyone".

>>182771172

Decorate it with spikes of leather.

>>182771317
Anon...

>>182771172
My next gladiator will use it as a weapon in the next tourney.

>>182771403
What?

>>182771318
>not decorating it with spikes of cloth

>>182771172
This is a Tourneyanon's corpse. All craftsmanship is of the highest quality. On the item is an image of a crab in adamantine. On the item is an image of an elk man in balsa wood. On the item is an image of a copper arrow in steel. The copper arrow is impaling the crab. The crab is screaming. The elk man is laughing. This relates to the slaying of Stabo the Crabo by Herne in the late winter of 270.

The item is decorated with spikes of crab leather.

>>182771172
Human-bone Earrings

>>182769616
I don't get it. Is the necromancer pooping blood? What's that coming out of the side of its head?

>>182771764
i killed the necromancer with an iron sword
no one must know

>>182771936
It must be stopped with violent force.

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Aaaargh why can't I make this fucking shit to work?!?

>>182772001
Death is all around us...Begone fear!

>>182772072
>I can't read
you need a hole with magma below the forge, but not on the center tile

>>182772278
Missing/Dead
>Drew: Missing for a week
>Tourneyanon: Missing for a week.

>>182773068
what?

>>182773134
I fucked up.

But at least we both got (You)'s out of it.

is a dorf is missing does that always mean they died?

>>182773210
I think yes, most of the time

send people to take a look where he probably is

>>182773210
Always. Unless they go insane in the woods, then maybe they are genuinely missing.

>>182772278
Well this is embarrasing... Figured it out.

>>182773505
Its okay anon, we all start out as dabbling.

I'd love a feature that would allow you to switch between a normal digging mode and I KNOW THIS FUCKING STONE IS FUCKING DAMP YOU QUADRUPLE FAGGOT NOW STOP CANCELLING MY SHIT HOLY FUCK mode.

>>182774010
Just turn off the announcement.
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Announcement
[DIG_CANCEL_WARM:A_D:D_D]
[DIG_CANCEL_DAMP:A_D:D_D]

Or use the plugin indicated in this page:
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Digging_designation_canceled

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What.

>>182775504
>it emanates an aura of giving and kindness
Are you in a good biome? I heard that titans that come from good biomes sometimes are neutral.

>>182775759
Nah, neutral savage biome.
It was hostile anyway.
>didn't burst into a pile of coins upon death
A shit.

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Is tourney even happening today?

>>182776440
We just told you that tourneyanon was dead.

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>See that a metal-smith has become posessed#
>Watch as he runs towards the metal stockpile
>Picks up one adamantine wafer
>ohfuck.xml
>Picks up another
Two minutes later, I find he makes me a crutch. Th-thanks, Urist.

>>182776931
>adamantine crutch
>literally a fucking pimp cane for the handicapped
at least your cripples will be hobbling in style.

>>182776931
At least it wasn't a warhammer.

>>182777026
I had a guy once make a Platinum Crutch, when the goblins invaded the fucker turned the head of about 5 goblins into pulp.

>>182777026
I'm planning on giving it to one of my soldiers when they inevitably get crippled, to fight in my Arena. It would've been better if it had been platinum though imo, because then it would actually be able to do some damage.
That said, 700k for a crutch isn't all that bad.

How can I order an item without specifying the material? It's hard to switch 5 screens each time I want to build picks, axes, etc...

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Alright everyone, I'm not dead. However, I'm still awaiting Steve the Wageslave's upgrades for this round. There is still the problem of the possible remake between Steve and Ulric. I've done tests since last time, and Ulric actually had a much higher chance of winning the fight between them. The other fights are more or less ready, but I want to post them all together seeing as there's only four.

Now, I'll let you guys decide. Either we hold a rematch here and now between Ulric and Steve, where the winner moves on, or I leave it and wait for tomorrow. Should the winner (or just Steve, if everyone decides that) fails to post their upgrades by tomorrow night, I'll run their fight with their current equipment.

Probably should have posted this yesterday, but it was a national holiday so I got drunk and didn't visit the general (sorry).

>>182776931
Adamantine crutches are impossibly light, anon. You realize, don't you, that your hospital is now no longer a place of healing, but of enhancement. Its wielder will move faster than an ordinary Dorf, it will do more. It will be more.

>>182777436
I think Steve posted his upgrades on the thread right after the fight.

>>182777517
>We can rebuild him
Huh, I hadn't thought of it like that. Actually, that fits the theme of my fort rather well. I'm currently going for a "pharmaceutical industry" : collecting forgotten beast, necromancers, and so on to find interesting ways to combine their effects. Super enhanced bio-dorf may be coming soon then.

>>182777436
>>182777554

>>182185281

>>182777436
Godspeed you baguette muncher

>>182777436
You could also just give Ulric some buffs before the battle royale.

>>182777749
Oh nice, I ctrl-fed every thread and still couldn't find it.

Now, the question remains as to whether Steve and Ulric should have a rematch. Either way, seeing as I'll need some time to write up the fight between Steve/Ulric Steve/Hercule, I'll leave the actual quarterfinals until tomorrow.

>>182778148
I feel bad about making an error with the original fight, but I still think everyone in the Battle Royale should start with their vanilla gear. The only ones I might allow to make some changes would be JC Denton and/or Wilbo.

>>182778476
>whether Steve and Ulric should have a rematch

Eh, what's done is done, IMO. When I DM, if I fuck something up, I avoid retconning or re-rolling unless I caught it immediately.
Instead I'll just admit I fucked up, and we'll leave it as-is and I'll just try not to fuck up next time.
I guess what I'm saying is that I'm not a fan of the "undo" button.

>>182777436
>>182778476
Ulric manager here, I'd like a rematch, but if it seems like too much trouble, or if people just don't want it, well, just let the tournament continue without changes.

>>182771317
>>182771317
but It's not

>>182778476
>actual quarterfinals tomorrow
You can't fathom my disappointment.

Is finding a good site with easy magma access still a chore? I used to spend hours looking for sites, it broke the game for me.

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Anyone had any luck using a catapult? I plan to put few on a top of a tower and than unleash STONE REHN. However from what i remember catapults are extremely inaccurate.

>>182778476
why in the world would we want rematches? we got it all over with last week. what's done is done.

>>182778476
I feel like we should save the Ulric VS Steve rematch as a bonus at the end of the battle royale.

>>182779575
the stones don't fly in an arc, so you need to have the catapults on the same level as the targets.

>innacurate
that depends on the skill of the operator.

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>>182779398
Yeah, feels pretty bad.

>>182779505
just dig down nigger, magma's everywhere on a non retarded size embark

>>182779710
what went wrong with the first round? I thought steve won fair and square?

>>182779837
>>182183786
>>182185048

>>182778476
Really can't do them today?

>>182741738
>anyone who has played the game for more than a week is well aware that v-p-l can turn a useless dorf into an invaluable member of the workforce
Anyone who has played the game also knows the workforce is impossibly saturated already and you already have literally dozens of useless dorfs and you cannot conceivably fit them into any workforce that isn't just haulers.

>>182748057
>Adamantine cloak
Okay I didn't think Herne was a munchkin for reading the raws but this is munchkin as fuck

>>182781095
you know multiple people are grabbing those yeah? adamantine is going to become more commonplace this late in the tourney

>>182781523
But there is a difference, adamantine cloaks are much more effective for large creatures, like Herne.

Or so I've heard atleast.

>>182781523
I think allowing Adamantine cloaks at all was a mistake.

>>182781951
True, they're a bit too cheap.

>>182781095
I feel like Herne would be the type of guy to look up a guide on his first playthrough of a game so he can easily beat the bosses and find all the super secret items.

>>182780920
t. guy who has never attempted any megaprojects or goals/challenges

>>182783094
I had a game with 60 dedicated siege engineers and still had close to a hundred unemployed haulers.

>>182779715
Sadness. No catapult tower than.

>>182777427
Anyone?

>>182783517
erm... by default, you don't specify the material
I'm really confused as to what you're doing anon

>>182783360
if you're not ironic, then you're doing something wrong

>>182784219
Well, when I go to the manager screen to queue up equipment and tools I have to specify.

>>182783360
>dedicated siege engineers
They're not supposed to be siege engineers FULL TIME, You just use it for stats training and to have a good amount on hand to fire ballistae when ready

>>182783094
I don't know how people build megaprojects without making stone block sweatshops

>>182784668
Oh, well yeah, for metal things you have to because each metal is a unique "job". But that's not an extra screen, you just type in "make copper picks" or whatever metal you wanna use.

>>182784890
That's the point. I don't know which materials I have and if it will have a shortage

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>>182784485
Show me your industry, I want to see what right looks like
>>182784746
Yeah. I had 50 ballistas.

>>182785010
Then, you know, maybe check your stocks?

Guy with the Batwoman adventure companion who tried to fly to the moon here.

>>182726328

Well, the wiki's "your companion will become a * on the map and try to meet up with you when you travel away" thing didn't happen.
Removing FLY from the raws didn't seem to work, I think it only works on new bat-people you meet.
Tried yelling and stuff, nothing worked.

What I had to was get a dfhack script called "teleport," reveal the map so I could see her (she was too high to see otherwise) and get her unit id, then use the teleport command to bring her down to earth. Then she's just like "Oh, hey, what's up."

Friggin' crazy bat people. If there'd been any humans on that island I started on, I'd have taken them as a companion, but noooooo. I had to wind up with a buggy flyer.

>>182785672
Maybe she saw a bee. You'd be all over that bee if you were a bat-lady.

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http://pixelcanvas.io/@-133,522

Help build the dwarf army!

>>182786432
go back to plebbit three months ago

>>182785010
Just use the metals you have on your map...?

>>182786569
No

>>182786432
What's with all those horses.

Also yes gb2reddit.

>>182786829
What did you THINK would feature most heavily in the autism capital of the internet?

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>>182786432
>>182786569
>>182786737
>>182786775
>>182786829
>>182786924
A U T I S M

>>182787472
what does the post about metals have to do?

>>182787472
Is that ... canned Doritos?
You should have told me they were selling limited edition Doritos

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrGrOK8oZG8

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>>182786432
disgusting

>>182789121
I don't see why any of those dwarves are smiling.

>They're all huddled in one corner and hanging out with a couple of humans.

Oh wait, that's probably why.

>>182781095
>>182781951
>>182782178
There's nothing munchkiny about it. Adamantine clothing is a poor use of points, it's only marginally better than other clothing.
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Armor_token#STRUCTURAL_ELASTICITY_WOVEN_THREAD

>>182781610
Have to be a lot bigger for it to matter. A creature large enough to benefit from extra-thick clothing would hardly have any points to spend (see the elephant man in the first tourney), and would receive the same benefit from clothing of any material.

>>182791226
When I tested adamantine cloaks they completely neutralized most blows they covered. I'm talking about deflecting a platinum warhammer.
So no it's not "only marginally better".

>>182781095
it's fine, anime wore one in the last tourney, without anyone saying anything.

incidentally, she also won.

>>182791226
>>182791536
I've tested it too, it can even deflect steel and adamantine battle axes.

So yeah I'd say it's king of munchkiny.

>>182792510
kind*

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>>182791226
>>182791536
Here's actual proofs instead of theorycrafting
No doubt Herne extensively tested the effectiveness of adamantine cloaks before buying one
>>182792645
King of munchkin is right

>>182792905
Does clothing get a boost with Armor User or no?

>>182793414
No idea. That testing was done with the elk man having 0 skills vs a grand master weapon user.

>the semifinals are going to be adamantine scarecrows slapping eachother until one collapses from exhaustion and gets 1shot
fucking
yawn

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>tfw Herne is min-maxing so he has the highest chance of winning
>tfw he's slowly turning into a worse Stabbo
I'm scared

>>182766472
>>182766750
What does it even mean for a heart to be "bruised"? Isn't bruising a skin thing?

Is this the tourney that will tear apart the general?

>>182793778
He has a family to go back to.

HE PROMISED

>>182793778
>Stabbo saw the power of adamantine cloaks and chose to ignore them
>People immediately start buying them next round
Die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

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>>182779575
They can be made to work, but you have to work around them a lot to get decent results.

>>182770408
>steel mace
yeah so lame

>>182793937
>stabo was the good guy all along
How did I not see this coming.

>>182793778
>making intelligent choices is min-maxing
?????

>>182794063
>exhaustively researching and testing every choice available until you find the most effective one
>minmaxing
well
yes

>>182776931
Metalsmiths fucking blow. They just make metal furniture and crafts. Weaponsmiths and armorsmiths are the only actually useful metalworkers.

>>182793886
I think people are just a little restless because they expected blood today, but it's postponed till tomorrow.
No need to worry. Not yet.

>>182794063
You don't know what min-maxing is do you?

Where do I settle for more challanging forts? high savagery? near goblins? near a tower?

>>182794209
Metal crafts are fucking godly the first two years to buyout every caravan until you churn out 2000 prepared meals
yes I know about wooden spiked balls shut up

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I ain't in the loop, how bravely did wee stabby go?

>>182794032
>on my mark, unleash hell
You are living the dream, anon.

>>182794408
Herne simulated the fight in the arena until he found Stabo's only weakness and switched his weapon to a bow to counter him.

>>182794408
shot to death like a dog in the streets

>>182794189
>>182794283

I doubt people autistically went through every single armor option to find out which one is best, it doesn't take a genius to realize "Adamantine cloak is cheap and has good coverage. I should get one."

>>182794618
And? It still is min-maxing.

>>182794759
>guy makes good tactical decisions based on whats available
>WOW fucking cheater how could u >:(

>>182794759
It IS a tournament. And adamantine cloaks have been available to anyone that wanted one up to this point. I don't really see the issue with buying one, BUT I don't think they should be included next time (or adamantine anything).

>>182794917
Adamantine weapons perhaps, but not cloaks/armor/etc

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>tournament is doomed to repeat last time's addy2win
>people will defend this

>>182794879
So basically what you're saying is that you would have been alright with Stabo buying three adamantine cloaks to become invincible.

>>182795030
Nah, armor is useless as it is. Adamantine existing just means that Master Dodger + high weapon skill + candy weapon beats armor users every time.

>>182795030
Just a coincidence that the last tourney winner had an adamantine cloak. Adamantine cloaks which ALSO deflect adamantine weapons just as well as any other material. Yep yep.
>>182795208
>spending 300+ points on dodge to still be fucked the moment a hit lands on you is superior to spending 180 points to become invincible to anything that actually hits you

Armor cost should be reworked, right now there is not much of an incentive to go for armor, with the exception of an adamantine cloak, which is too effective for how much it costs.

>>182795298
There's no way steel armor + a functional level of armor user is cheaper than a really high dodging skill.

>>182795208
Armor should still be made cheaper, imo. Right now it's not worth considering really.
>>182795298
That's more of a problem with the cost efficiency of cloaks. They get retardedly large coverage for a low cost.
>>182795407
basically this

>>182795456
Who said steel armor?

>>182795492
Anything less than steel is not "invincible." And adamantine would be too expensive.

>>182795652
Adamantine cloaks cost 180 points, have you even been paying attention?

>>182795696
I'm talking about ARMOR, dude. Not clothing.

>>182795935
>cloaks/armor/etc
- literally u

>>182795981
Literally NOT me, that was somebody else.

If you think adamantine cloaks are bad you should try adamantine robes, that shit stops anything that isn't a hit to your feet, head or hands.

>>182795935
there's functionally no difference whatsoever

>>182796146
It does make a small difference, cloaks provide the protection without requiring any skill levels in armor.

Where the fuck is update already

>>182795935
...But Anon, you were replying to a post talking specifically about adamantine cloaks?
Did you somehow read that and think they were talking about steel armor?
>>182796231
Armor user is only to make armor not slow you down I think

>>182796146
Except one is made out of metal.

My point is this: there's no reason to make a "knight" or "paladin" kinda character because ARMOR, as in, breastplates and gauntlets, is not good.

Either you cheese with dodge, a candy cloak, or both. Armor is not worth the cost.

>>182796320
I replied to

>spending 300+ points on dodge to still be fucked the moment a hit lands on you is superior to spending 180 points to become invincible to anything that actually hits you

not the other part

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who's ready for everyone in the semifinals having an adamantine cloak and every fight being 9 pages long?
should be "exciting"

>>182794189
the metagaming is now old man

Adapt or dissapear

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>tfw you're sticking to your trusty leather cloak instead of using an adamantine one
>tfw you'll probably get annihilated for it
Life is cruel

The first tourney was the best tourney, prove me wrong.

Protip: you can't but atleast try

>>182796823
Even though I didn't see the first tourney, I have to admit, it looked pretty fun and goofy, and I imagine there wasn't as many people doing fucking battle simulations and running fucking LAB EXPERIMENTS trying to find the best strategy to winning.

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>>182796750
>Sticking to my trusty cloth pants and absolutely nothing else.
Get those crutches outta here.

Just for fun I tried Stabo with cloaks vs literally anything else
he always won kek

>go to bay12 for week update
>some faggo who draws stuff and used to write stuff is getting married
>He is the brother of the toad
Honestly, the only thing that caught my eye are the three last words from the post

>imminent Artifact Release.
Makes me jizz

>>182796750
>tfw sticking to your trusty handboots

you know what they say, incest la vie

>>182797169
Anon I don't think that's what they say.

>this tournament
What went wrong?

>>182796558
More exciting than a one sided blowout with meme characters created by bay12 faggots. Honestly, I'm hoping next tourney will remove adamantine and/or increase the cost of adamantine cloaks. Because right now it's either take one, or accept a probable loss to the other people who will

>>182797369
Welcome to /dfg/, where anything I don't like is a meme and if you have anything bad to say about the game you're just an ADHD-ridden shitposter.

>>182797356
While I do like how people chose to make more unique champions for this tourney, I honestly feel as though it's the simulations, Raw-diving and Stabbo that kind of fucked it over.

>>182794520

>making shit up this hard

Stabbofags are the worst.

>>182797810
How is what I said inaccurate?

>>182797015
I'm sad we never got the Entrails vs Sten match.

>>182797856
he knew crabs were slow
everyone who has played DF for an extensive amount of time should know crabs are slow
I wouldn't call that autistic testing
If he had still swapped weapons but not mentioned the raw numbers, you'd still be autistically screeching about minmaxing

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>>182798214
>everyone who has played DF for an extensive amount of time should know [useless trivia about one animal in specific which will never be relevant to a regular player]

>>182797779
>Raw-diving

Jesus christ, stop whining already. Nobody "raw dived," Herne's manager posted the raws because they'd illustrate his point.

He didn't even HAVE to open them up to see the crab was slow as hell, it didn't move a single square before Wilbo was able to cross the arena and get into melee range.

>>182798319
>he's never wrestled crabs on a beach
>he's never lost a dorf in his seafort to a meandering crab

>>182798319
to be fair, that's not even a think you need to have played dwarf fortress to know
crabs are really slow irl too

So we have several managers admitting to testing their fights in the arena
Herne comes in quoting the raws
And yet people claim plausible deniability that hey maybe he figured this obscure detail out without help

>>182798578
>expecting people in /dfg/ to go outside

>>182798660
>obscure detail
I know it's bait but take your (you) anyways

>>182798660
>obscure detail

Dude, you could just have watched the Stabbo/Wilbo fight to see the crab was slow.

Crab-fags are the worst part of this tournament. First it was annoying memes about the unstoppable crab, now it's whiny memes about hacking the Gibson to steal the secrets of the raw files.

is it just me or is the thread massively worse this month?
even when not talking about the tournament
it's always some guy getting anal because someone said something bad about the game, some guy getting anal over tilesets, some guy getting anal over someone asking a question
it wasn't always like this

>>182798968
This is what happens when an update is close but not very close.

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You know what?
Fuck this stupid arguing, let's just talk about all the stuff in the tourney that we've liked so far.

Who is your favourite/least favourite champ?
Who would you like to see fight whom?
Which champion would you like to see get the shit kicked out of them?
What songs do you listen to while the tourney is on (if any)?

>>182798968
Could be a troll.

My advice would be: always respond calm and collected to people, and if someone gets nasty, just don't respond.

>>182799049
>Fuck this stupid arguing, let's argue

>>182798968
I know the summer meme is just a meme mostly, but it's hard not to believe.
>>182799049
Favorite is probably Trihardin or Urist, both of which have had entertaining and brutal fights. I'd put them in #2 as well, I'm hype for this fight. I'd like to see Lava Lad get donged, mostly because I want He-Man to win
The tourney is a hard thing to put music to, since it's so broken up and there's not much substance to the fighting. If only we had some kind of animations or something.

>>182799049
Herne was my solid favorite right after his first start but he's very quickly falling from grace and I think it's only gonna get worse.
I will always be salty we didn't get Skeletor vs He-Man. I hope we get Hercules vs Larva Lad.

>>182799049
I wrote the story about Herne's wife, so I'm still cheering for him.

Trihardin McLargeHuge is a close second.

>>182799504
>I hope we get Hercules vs Larva Lad.
crap I meant Trihardin vs Larva Lad

>>182799049
I seriously hope Herne miraculously loses, I'm genuinely worried about the adamantine cloak debacle. Especially since other favorites (Hercules, Trihardin) are already confirming they won't take an adamantine cloak even if it means having no chance.

>>182799819
It wouldn't take a miracle. Cloaks don't intercept 100% of hits.

>>182799049
LPA will always live on in my heart.

>>182797015
Before the tourney even began people were running arena tests and looking at creature raws to figure out point assignments. During the tourney a bunch of people were playing around with raws and arena tests and posting their observations, to the point that the semi and final rounds were pretty much known quantities before they even happened (for Sten at least), which in turn led to weeks long discussions on how to alter the point-buy system to be more fun and fair, and the most extensive series of arena attribute tests that I've ever seen (testanon kept the results in a pastebin if anyone has it).
The meta aspect has been a part of the tourney since the beginning. The only reason people are bitching about it now is because everyone's pet memeable competitor lost.

>>182800162
this desu

did tourney anon do his thing yet

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>Dwarves won't let THIS into their Forts

Why are dwarves the cuckolds of the DF?

>>182799819
If Trihardin and Hercules make it deeper in the tournament and either dump points or not spend them, I'll totally be okay if Tourneyanon did a "what if" simulation if they actually got adamantium thongs of their own.

I would support adamantum thongs and gloves, and socks too.

Shirts and cloaks are not appropriate for Trihardin and Herc as they would just shred them whenever they flexed anyways. Pants always stay intact, strangely.

>>182800819
I let them in, in to my special swimming chamber

>>182801019
Maybe they got magic pants on.
Y'know, the ones that stay intact no matter what you do in them.
Like what the Demi-Fiend from SMT Nocturne or the Hulk wear.

>>182800819
>letting weird thin strangers in to sex up everyone you know
>says that doesnt make you a cuck
Who could be behind this post?

>>182801232
It's the Kenshiro problem.

He's always got another jacket, another one of those red shirts. They come from somewhere, maybe the end credits. But that doesn't stop him from shredding them the moment he gets angry.

In my own little mind, I think of Trihardin as a Kenshiro. He's actually more of an Armstrong, as Armstrong really tries hard. Kenshiro tries hard to, but he's no McHuge.

I wish Toady applied the "dwarves like to sit down while they read" to drinking
It annoys me a little that nobody in my tavern uses chairs or tables

>>182801461
But Armstrong uses Nanomachines to boost his power potential, while McHuge simply uses his pure steel will, rock-hard abs and raw determination to get himself through battles.

He's more of a Brad Armstrong than a Senator Armstrong, in all honesty.

>>182797779
What's raw diving?

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>>182801281
Listen, if Elves and Dwarves began mating we would be fucking invincible.

>>182800819
>Implying my trade depot is outside my fort
I love elves so much that I in fact entertain them for months, maybe even raise the bridge and let them greet the other green visitors who come once in a while

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>>182801736
I'm thinking of the other Armstrong, the full metal one.

>>182802043
Oooh.
Well in that case, I can definitely see the similarities.

How many Armstrongs are there in media?

>>182798968
>is it just me or is the thread massively worse this month?
>even when not talking about the tournament
>it's always some guy getting anal because someone said something bad about the game, some guy getting anal over tilesets, some guy getting anal over someone asking a question
>it wasn't always like this
somebody getting anal about the general
It's like these from time to time, the fact that I always have to tell something like this to your kind each time prooves it

>>182800819
Elves in the Dwarf Fortverse are lank with fucked up teeth and messy hair. It's like if the entire British population were hippies.

>>182800819
I let anyone who asks into my fort. By "anyone who asks", of course, I mean "if I have enough room," and by "anyone," I mean no I don't need a dozen fucking bards, I don't care what race you are

>>182801798

A dumb meme from people who take the tournament too seriously.

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>>182801864
Can't wait to get pickaxes stuck in trees and bang some sticks with rocks
Let's make sure to talk to our farm plants while we're at it

>>182802186
>like if the entire British population were hippies.
So their prayer mats are woven from old shirts and their qurans are made from soy paper?

>>182802180
>somebody getting anal about the general
savage

>>182802186
>Dwarves are based on Asians
>Elves are based on British
>Goblins are based on Chinese
>Orcs are based on niggers
Stay mad amerifat, any fictional races based on you?

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>>182802186

Hey, that's hurtful, man!

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>>182802186
I SAY, DELET THIS, YOU CHEEKY BLIGHTER

>>182802516
Dark Elves.

>tfw never Gorilla with a gun using adamantine boots and crossbow

>>182802429
You can learn a lot from talking to plants my friend.

>>182802516
There's no orcs in Dwarf Fortress. And humans would be the most similar to America.

>>182802180
>your kind
The hell are you talking about
What kind? Those who can spell?

>>182803580
They don't use guns, they are clearly white europeans.

>>182802694
>That picture

F

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>>182803743
>Tfw we might never get someone as dedicated to putting on a good show as Robbie's actor again
Life is truly cruel.

>>182803580
Humans have random ethics, they're a wildcard

What animal uses venom that isn't lethal with one bite but can fuck you up with multiple ones?

>>182786924
>Graffiti is only for autists
oh how wrong you are, summer child. When will you learn about the world ?

>>182804564
Lions

>>182805415
The reply was talking about MLP. Read more carefully Urist

>>182805549

Your clarification makes no sense, good sir. The question upthread was "why are there so many horses on pixel canvas?" and the response was that pixel canvas is the autism capital of the internet.
Then the fellow you replied to said pixelcanvas is not such.

>>182805549
>Autitsts are prevalent among the MLP fanbase
[actual proof needed]

>>182806269
Randy Stair

>>182806507

Are Randy Stairs prevalent among the MLP fanbase? I've not even heard of the one before now, much less a bunch of them.

>>182806507
>Randy Stair
Interesting how this is non-proof with no mention of his autism diagnosis or actual MLP characters anywhere.

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>>182803743
at least he went out in style

Plump Helmet Men > Dwarves

>>182807520
Guys he hasn't died yet

>>182808612
Oh if only he hadn't died...
Truly we are in the darkest timeline.

>>182806269
t. reinbow desh is my fursona

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So i built the dam to create artificial lake and I'm pumping the water out. However process is really slow. this is how it should go or is water somehow flowing into the lake? I tought about the mist. Is it somehow transporting water through a wall? Wall is going down to the bottom of the lake and is 3Z levels high( I was afraid of waves pouring through)

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So I was playing adventure mode and found a necromancer tower and now I'm one myself.

I've proceeded to steamroll at least two towns with undead and it feels like I've won the game.

What is there to even do now?

I can make an army so big I can't even play from the lag/announcement spam.

I'm a human swordsman.

/dfg/ is dead
It was inevitable

>>182812067
It is time anon

Time to raid a vault

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>>182812067

>>182812067
if you got steel armor go kill vault niggers

>>182811942
>one (1) pump
Yeah it's slow of course.

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>>182812426

I even regretted raising such an army and wanted to just adventure normally without having to bother about rest or sustenance, but the skeleton army kept following me no matter what.

I tried to get them killed (permanently) by walking into all kinds of hazards but they would even bare-knuckle (pun not intented) an entire night troll family to death.

I finally got rid of them now. I guess I'll try to get steel weapons or something.

Do merchants ever have anything worthwhile? I've kept collecting gold from corpses, but they always sell copper crap and I'm fully encased in quality iron.

I'm thinking of deep sea diving if I ever get to become a vampire or don't need to otherwise breathe. That'd be a nice thing to do.

Hey, is there some dfhack command that will make a dorf drop everything he's holding?

>>182813137
can't buy or sell right now
if you see something you like just take it, theft has no consequences
welcome to alpha

>>182813138
'exterminate him'

>>182813137
you can make sites in adventure mode. Make yourself a cute log cabin and find some friends to live with you.

>>182814003
She's a girl!

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>>182814716
>girl
>not being a girl (male) in the year 2017

>>182814716
exterminate him (her)

>>182814003

I was hoping for a non-fatal option.

>>182814716
Exterminate him ()

>>182815831
Damn unicode characters not working

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>>182800819
>TFW the first non-wiki project you made in DF was a miasma chamber disguised as a bath house for knife ears

>>182815120
Yeah, but he'll drop it

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>>182813108
Thanks I'm creating new ones.

By the way game prompts that the peasant has come, truly a terrible threat.

>>182814997
But I am

>>182816915
Werecreature that turned back before it got spotted?

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>>182816915
Probably a late werebeast

>>182817579
>>182817697
Possible, he jumped into the water when my squads approached him. They are waiting for him to turn/come out.

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>>182816915
>a short sturdy creature fond of drink and industry.
Fucking hell.

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soon

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>>182819765
>>182817791
Werewombat. Almost harmless.

Give me some fort ideas/challenges. No megaprojects please.

My fort process has become almost too automated. I just can't lose. I resort to gimping myself by not even using cage traps and just fighting whatever's coming at me. But still it feels like a chore to start over again and again when the FPS death hits. I want to lose. Die a glorious death.

I already tried sinister embark once. I got wiped out instantly by an evil cloud that turned everyone into zombies. That was not nice.

I also embarked near a Tower. That was a little more interesting, but they never sieged more than once. I guess the Necromancer got killed in the first attempt.

How's hermit forts? As in playing Fortress mode with just one dwarf? A snorefest?

>>182821646
Select some dorfs (preferably nobles) to live luxuriant, stress-free lives free of work and surrounded by beauty. But with the other dorfs just treat them as subdwarven and entirely expendable. Just do things as normal but with no regard for safety. Gotta pump lava? Keep throwing people at the problem until the survivors finish it. Someone outside the gates during an invasion? Tough luck, peasant. Make sure everyone but the nobles are miserable and constantly working. Keep doing so until the system collapses.

>>182821646
Above ground fort, with only above ground farming
You're allowed to dig for metals and such, and to tap groundwater if there's none on the surface, but no building homes underground, and no stockpiles there either

Make sure you're near goblins or a tower or something so threats actually come to you

>>182822621
>>182821646
Oh, and you're only allowed to farm during the growing season. Try to use local plants, too.

And don't wall off your town like a bitch. Get a military.