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/pso2g/ - Phantasy Star Online 2 General #1296

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Previous Thread: >>182279429
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Yay for fighter
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Don't be sad that Fighter will be the top dog class. Be happy that it will get nerfed and then HUNTER will take its RIGHTFUL PLACE AS THE RULER OF PSO2.
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>>182469980
Braver would take that place before hunter ever will you need.
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>>182470191
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWC8bA0TW4s
NICE TRY BRAVER
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What should I spend my anniversary badges on?
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>>182469980
Poor.. poor deluded hunter...
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>>182470906
>year 2017
>Maidoll still whining about Sword gear
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>>182471087
Still super funny when Maidoll commented on that warcry post and then proved it wrong.
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>>182471932
FAZZ BTFO
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>>182472321
Fuck off already
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Why are consumables like hairstyles, layering wear etc still not account wide?
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>>182473454
>he does not know
shh nobody tell him
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>>182474239
Huh? What am I missing?
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>>182474395
pfffttheheh... guys shh!!
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>>182474863
Why are you doing this to yourself
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>>182474395
This, anon >>182462913
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>>182475175
>>182474395
Well that wasn't the right post, sorry meant this one >>182462654
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>>182475334
Not him but when is that taking place?
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>>182475801
I would assume EP5
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>>182475334
That's not all that helpful. Thanks Sega.
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>>182476962
Flat is just superior
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>>182477053
>flat
Lolno petite*
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>>182477543
Thank good Nova range was buffed twice and now Kanran barely deals damage.
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>>182477623
Kanran does at least 13k twice to your sorroundings though which is ok damage and fast kc build up for an even stronger aoe, katana ftw
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>>182478063
>26k
>good damage
m8 it's not ep2 anymore
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>>182478705
how the fuck does ok=good
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>>182478794
ok is a synonym to good in most cases. Stop being autistic, at most good is a bit above ok.
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>>182479051
>adjective
>1.
>satisfactory but not exceptionally or especially good.
Stop being retarded.
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>>182478705
Yeah but i didn't say it was use for damage, this guy gets it>>182478794
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>>182479214
>exceptionally good = good
Might as well say that very good is the same as good. You stop being retarded and get reading comprehension.
>>182479235
Kanran is still weaker and less useful than Nova. A whole PP bar of Kanrans won't kill lots of XH mobs.
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>>182479410
>let me just skip over the word SATISFACTORY
Are you sure your reading comprehension isn't off?
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>>182479515
Satisfactory is synonymous with good. Things that satisfy you are good.
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>>182479660
>Satisfactory
>adjective
>fulfilling expectations or needs; acceptable, though not outstanding or perfect.

>good
>adjective
>1.
>to be desired or approved of.

Good is something you want, satisfactory is something that gets the job done. Stop posting and read more.
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Okay is one step above mediocre. Rather than good, a more accurate synonym would be "acceptable", "adequate", "decent", or "serviceable".
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>>182479869
>desired or approved of
>completely skipping the approved part
Do you not approve of a meal that satisfies your hunger?
http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/approve
Here. Fucking accept is listed as a synonym to approve you mongloid.
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>>182480038
Nobody really cares about synonyms with close but not exact meaning. In that situation there is not much difference between good and ok damage and the post rather concentrates on calling Kanran's damage shit.
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>>182480052
>Do you not approve of a meal that satisfies your hunger?
Over nothing? Yes, but I would desire a better meal.
And you wouldn't approve of Kanran that satisfies your need for damage? You would still desire more damage, however.

>fucking accept is listed as a synonym to approve
So is favor. However, if you use this in conjunction with his original post, it's quite obvious he wouldn't "favor" 13k for dps as opposed to his other options.
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Goddamn I hate you all so fucking much
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Hey, shut the FUCK up!
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>>182481607
barf barf
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>>182481225
>And you wouldn't approve of Kanran that satisfies your need for damage? You would still desire more damage, however.
Kanran is completely dysfunctional in the damage department. 26k is the equivalent of a normal attack. That kind of damage doesn't satisfy anything. It's not anywhere near ok.
>So is favor. However, if you use this in conjunction with his original post, it's quite obvious he wouldn't "favor" 13k for dps as opposed to his other options.
You're really trying to spin it you way. You can quite readily substitute good for ok in that post and nothing should change. Nobody really touches on the subtle difference of good being a bit more than ok, ok and good are synonymous there and what matters is that Kanran tickles.
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>>182481714
>Kanran is completely dysfunctional in the damage department.
This is literally the second sentence, because it relates to the "over nothing" part of the first line. 26k to multiple enemies at once is serviceable. It's not your big damage dealer, however, which is completely obvious.

> 26k is the equivalent of a normal attack.
For a braver? That's not true, even with attack advance up.

>You can quite readily substitute good for ok in that post and nothing should change
No, you can't. They have different connotations, and it's quite obvious that he meant the damage was simply acceptable. This is further supported by the fact that he stated so in another post.

> Nobody really touches on the subtle difference of good being a bit more than ok
Because normal people can easily pick up on context clues with words. You, however, cannot.
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>>182481607
When can I see her uncensored version? Someone pls upload
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>>182476327
>no mention of hero camo
HOW WILL WE GET IT??
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>>182483189
5 hours
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>>182483189
You have to be part of the sekrit lewd circle for that.

The splurt guy probably isn't in it since he only posts old pics.
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So we all agree that I'm /objectively/ perfect, right?
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What's the public consensus on Guardian Force?
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>>182486530
who the fuck are you
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>>182486803
Why does that matter, anon?
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Look at dis dood.
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>>182482780
>For a braver? That's not true, even with attack advance up.
That's where you're wrong kiddo *whips out Dragon Slayer*
>26k to multiple enemies at once is serviceable.
No it's garbage. An entire PP bar not being able to kill XH enemies.
>No, you can't. They have different connotations, and it's quite obvious that he meant the damage was simply acceptable. This is further supported by the fact that he stated so in another post.
But it's meaningless. What's the fucking point of stating that you meant ok as a bit lower than good when I am calling Kanran's damage pure shit. You can't pick up on anything retard.
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>>182486803
i'm your prom date, you ugly sack of shit
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>>182487159
How do you get the accessories to show through the rappy suit?
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>>182487465
FUCK YOU
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All this argument from my kanran post.
None of you seem to get it all, kanran is not used for damage its used for kc.
Whatever damage that comes with it is extra.
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>>182487771
It's not used for damage precisely because damage is SHIT
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>>182487771
20-30k to EVERY enemy around you is a GOOD extra
20-30k x 7-10 + finisher = why is this hunter shitter speaking to me?
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>>182487275
>That's where you're wrong kiddo *whips out Dragon Slayer*
For a braver. That's a hunter weapon.

>No it's garbage. An entire PP bar not being able to kill XH enemies.
It's 30pp. You use it for KC hits mainly, as well as the hitstun/knockdown it brings.

> What's the fucking point of stating that you meant ok as a bit lower than good when I am calling Kanran's damage pure shit.
The point where the semantics started was when you stated that 26k wasn't good damage, which I then went on to say that ok wasn't equal to good in this scenario. Your point of calling Kanran damage shit came after.
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>>182488006
20-30k at lightning speed × 2 × 10 + KCFinish= what the fuck?
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>>182488034
>It's 30pp. You use it for KC hits mainly, as well as the hitstun/knockdown it brings.
Congratulations you need 300PP to kill a relevant XH enemy in one PP bar.
>The point where the semantics started was when you stated that 26k wasn't good damage, which I then went on to say that ok wasn't equal to good in this scenario. Your point of calling Kanran damage shit came after.
Read the post. Do you think the point of the greentext was to call Kanran actually ok damage and not good due to misreading or call it SHIT. FUCK YOU
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If Braver is so great how come Hunter is faster at solo PD?
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>>182488437
>using kanran to kill xh mobs
Mate...
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>>182488437
>Congratulations you need 300PP to kill a relevant XH enemy in one PP bar.
Nobody's going to use that to kill an XH enemy you retard. That's like saying Hatou is shit when its main purpose is to build hits as well.

>Do you think the point of the greentext was to call Kanran actually ok damage and not good due to misreading
Yes, because you've displayed to me that you're horribly bad at reading context clues.
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>>182488612
>>182488616
>PA can't kill XH mobs
>Damage is ok
Those two can't be combined. Glad you proved my point.
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>>182488596
Because braver is better than hunter at mobbing
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>>182488750
>use kanran for kc finish because it builds hits faster and 20-30k 2x that comes along with it is good damage
>want to kill a mob with pa so i use guren or se0 or spawnkill with kazan0
Ahh incredible post m8
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>>182488750
>>PA can't kill XH mobs
>>Damage is ok
It's used for its utility, you retard. The damage is just a plus, as it's serviceable. That's his whole point. Something being unable to kill mobs doesn't make it not okay.
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>>182488034
> Not having an OT dragon Slayer.
> Not crafting it to remove class restrictions.
There's a reason why the OT version was discontinued. It's not because it was replaced by NT, it's because it was broken as fuck.
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>>182489141
>20-30k on weakpoint
>good
>for 25pp
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>>182489762
>30-40k 2× on weakpoints
Ahhh incredible post m8
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>>182489979
>Suddenly becomes 15-20k damage range on non weakpoint while the previous guy said Kanran does 13k for him
Wow so this is the power of Braver.
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>Hunter shitter this mad kanran is faster, does more damage and gets off a fully counted finisher that does even more damage on TD, ULT and other mobbing EQs than his nova noodle
>even guren spammers do more than him
I laff
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I don't really get these toku refs
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>>182489572
why the fuck would you go through that effort to change your normal attacks for braver especially when you can't even use it for Katana Combat
that's such a small damage increase for a lot of work
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>>182490335
Fazz hasn't been the same since maidoll ripped hiss ass to shreds
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>>182490130
My kanran uses astra :)
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>Dragon Slayer OT appears
>Crafted Dragon Slayer does better mobbing than entirety of Katana
Woah
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>>182471087
>2017
>stacks of HU cubes later
>dozens of "check it, took first in yet another TD" screenshot tweets
>maidoll still resents the ball and chain that hunter needs two skills (one being a ring) to mitigate because sega is too wrapped up in saving face to admit they fucked up with and refuse to just fix directly
it's almost like maidoll actually plays the class instead of memeing.

and you cannot seriously think that hunter gear save would exist if swordgear wasn't a thing people have been bitching about for years. ditto hunter gearboost.

>>182478705
>>182487275
>26k out of a weak PA
>bad
I hate you and every faggot like you that's made the meta such cancer.

>>182489572
people say this shit about how OMG HAX dragonslayer with the weaponoid pot is, but when I tried it, it was nearly identical in output to my 13* sword. while it's impressive for a 10* to keep up in any way, that's far from broken.
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>>182490350
>he doesn't watch Kamen Rider Ex-Aid
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new player here, are there any up to date guides on how i should be gearing up as i'm leveling for the first time? i find that this game is very unforgiving for new players unless you do your research
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>>182490568
>guren aproaches enemies at the speed of light
>huge aoe
>does more damage than dslayer normals
>your post
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>>182490607
>it's almost like maidoll actually plays the class instead of memeing.
Maidoll has been putting up the whole ball everywhere but honestly Sword Gear is just kinda annoying. Sword has bigger problems that actually keep it chained down like every PA that does more DPS than Bouncer being completely dependent upon the enemy being fat in the right places or bothering to attack you enough.

Gear boost was here since EP2.
I also have plenty of first in TD screens
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>>182490797
>Buy 9* max element NT weapon
>Suddenly you contribute more than nearly every person in PUGs I play with, even on XH
It's really that easy
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>>182490797
It really doesn't matter until you hit about... I don't know 40 or so
Just pick up higher rarity shit as you go along until then
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>>182490797
Depends on your class but really you just have to pick up a decent weapon, grind it up a bit, and max its element. You can use the story units until SH, then just buy a set of cheap 11* units off the visiphone.
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>>182490967
>the enemy being fat in the right places
Pardon?
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>The Recycle Shop can now be accessed from the Camp Ship.
PRAISE JESUS
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>>182491240
what
I've been leaving the ship like a goddamn fuckshit this entire day
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>>182491215
Twister Fall
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Wait why is katana faster than hu
https://youtu.be/yIBkWcrsqXI
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>>182491353
Not yet, but you'll be able to in the ep5 update on the 26th.
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>Hero AC scratch
Is this coming before episode 5 or when it releases?
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Look at that Loser.
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>>182491421
>10 seconds faster than Hu on some outdated content purely due to abusing Escape invincibility
Meanwhile in solo PD land.
>>182470434
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are you actually at a disadvantage in any way due to gaijin ping? nearly everything should be client side, no?
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>>182492305
Only if you are a ta autist
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>>182492042
>hu has to sub fi aka the most busted class
LMAO
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>>182492517
>Braver would be worse than Bouncer if Hunter ever got removed from the game
TRIPLE LOL
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>>182491721
probably 3 days after
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>>182492517
>>182492042
>>182492593
What the fuck.
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Does weak stance work when you're hitting banish arrow with attacks on a non-weak point?
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>>182492461
Is it just an issue with hits taking slightly longer to register, or something that actually impedes gameplay?
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>>182492725
Only headshots and weakpoints.
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>>182492839
It's mostly the weapon switching. Damage is client side and if you have decent internet connection; it's registered pretty fast. Loading times also get hit by connection.

Outside of TA autism; the only other place it's really noticeable is PvP.
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>>182492871
So wouldn't average stance be better for bow when fighting Deus since Deus's weak point is hidden for half of the fight? Or do the dragon heads count as headshots?
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>>182493171
You can use both stances
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>>182492593
>if hunter got removed from the game your video wouldn't exist
QUADRUPLE LOL
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Stop it guys.
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>>182494098
>If Hunter got removed from the game all Hunters would stop playing (25%) of the playerbase all Katana Bravers would stop playing too (like another 25%) of the playerbase, all Bouncers (dunno it was like 10%?) and Fighters (13%), and Rangers (8%?) too
GAME CAN'T EXIST WITHOUT HU
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>>182491753
I love him
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My wife Xiera is super lewd!
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>>182498797
Yeah i bang her all night while youre away
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>>182491753
Loser better carry shit show.
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I wish stinky melees would stay out of expert blocks.
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Your typical gaijin hours katana shitter.
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>>182504216
>So insecure in himself that he posts a random person in the lobby name included
Your dick isn't any bigger after that I assure you
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Are either of the Yamato rifles worth going for over Aura?
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>>182505378
If you're a gunner the military one is. If you're a ranger no.
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>>182504216
>main lobby
>xh block
>ship2
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU7HPEXMbCg
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>>182506630
So who is this?
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>>182507967
Cute caseal and Sword god
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>>182508056
Ok
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⌒o⌒
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>>182506630
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>>182509940
This cloud has a big fucking forehead LMAO!!
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>>182483286
>5 h
Its been 5hrs bro
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>>182461491
>fornis rifle
Are you ready for ra to be literally unkillable?
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>>182511423
you're actually pathetic
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>>182511559
Ranger isn't know for constant DPS in the face of full aggro.
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>>182511565
Talk dirty to me more
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>>182511423
Fucked up some file transfers, sorry. My database should be back up soon, I just need 5 hours.
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>finally got the charms from zieg
holy fuck, unlocking weapon extension recipe for 7-8 is autism
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>>182511963
against bosses anon, against bosses. fornis against mobs is damn near irrelevant due to how fast shit melts.
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>>182512495
you don't need to do it yourself, you simply need to have it done by someone who has the recipe unlocked.
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>>182512645
my only friend who had it doesn't log on often enough to satisfy my need for speed
besides, i don't rely on anyone else.....................................heh................
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>>182512528
Ranger has automate, fornis rifle is actually garbage like bow
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>>182512761
what ship are you on?
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>>182512827
2
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>>182512887
i have all 3 recipes ready for request at my room

IGN:Gavenger
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>>182513358
oh, i finished everything already (i got the charms already)
i appreciate the offer anyways, though, thank you!
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>>182513521
lul wut a triggered snwoflake
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>>182512778
I'd still say fornis rifle would be a better option than any other rifle excluding cliffard for bossing.
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>>182513521
>he's still salty

your tears are delicious.
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>>182513950
Anyone that doesn't like lolis should get out though.
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>>182513994
t. FULL pleb
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>>182513994
I hope all lolis get smothered to death by titty monsters
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>>182513994
What's this got to do with lolis?
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>>182513994
>disgusting lolicons THIS delusional
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Some lolis are good, the rest are absolute trash... which is all of the ones from here/ship 2
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>>182513994
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>>182514053
>>182514059
>>182514148
Please get off of 4chan and go back to whatever shithole spawned you if you like your disgusting fat sacks.
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>>182514246
>2D is the same as 3D
Normalfag please.
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are there any hairstyles exactly or similar to pic related?
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Only losers play rainbow classes
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>>182514514
eternal f layer looks pretty close
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>>182514274
>it's either flat or fat sacks
lolifags are THIS DELUDED
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>>182514460
So you're a pedophile? At least you're honest.
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>>182516903
>I'm a pedo if I like 2D lolis
You normalfags are mentally ill.
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>>182517067
>just because i like 2d characters who are literal pedo-tier doesn't mean i'm a pedo irl!!!!
Okay, so liking 2D dicks doesn't make you gay either, nice
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What's /pso2g/ up to today?
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>this upset because he gets called a pedophile for liking little girls
free keks, it's just too easy, keep it up anons
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>>182517241
fuck off
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>>182517241
barfing thanks to you
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>>182517241
/la barf
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>>182517192
Nah, that's the exception. You look at traps and futa, you're a faggot.
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>>182517346
That's quite rude anon, didn't your mother ever teach you any manners?
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>>182517450
hot
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>>182517441
How come? 2D doesn't equal 3D, as you've stated already. You're not a mentally ill normalfag, are you?
>>
>>182517450
>>182517450
why do you even bother posting here anymore, at least post different pictures or say something different than your usual gay shit or just asking what we're doing today
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>>182517529
>mentally ill
You seem rather obsessed with this
>>
>>182517441
Mmm yes I too arbitrarily define arguments and exceptions on the internet to mask my bullshit
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>>182517676
You said it first, and once as well. Clearly, you're obsessed.
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>>182517737
I didn't say shit though
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>>182517241
running LQ2 because 1-4 has nobody doing it post yamato.
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>>182517793
If you're not the guy I responded to originally, read the reply chain correctly.
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>>182517628
It's an obsession for me at this point anon, maybe ep 5 will make the game great again probably not
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>26 minutes for a single yamato clear
I forget how completely garbage the players are outside expert blocks sometimes. Didn't even get any fuses.
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>>182517241
sleeping
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You want to hang with Arks, you must dress like Arks, Hitsugi-chan. Guehehe.
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>>182517628
Actually just for you anon, have a singular different picture I found.
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>>182518708
still over a year old, get out of here
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>>182518708
thank god image MD5 filtering is a thing now
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When are you idiots going to stop enabling the mentally disturbed
>>
>>182518928
I'm all for it, can get funny as hell
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>>182518841
Well I didn't say it was going to be new did I? I haven't even updated the game.
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How big is the download for PSO2?
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>>182519087
50GB
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>>182519164
That's not too bad.
The game doesn't use up that much bandwidth apart from updates right?
>>
>>182519297
Yup. You probably shouldn't stay in the threads for too long unless you have something to ask, because it's usually complete shit.
>>
>>182519889
Well it can't be any worse than /mhg/ or /owg/.
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>>182519978
Nah, even /fgg/ is better than this shithole
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>>182519978
pso2g is easily in the bottom 4 generals on vg
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>>182520073
Then why are you here?
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>>182520409
because /fgg/ doesnt play games and i want to shitpost cause boredom.
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>red shithead is back to shitpost
Kys my man
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>>182491753
We Drakengrad now?
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>>182520768
That would mean everyone dying so most probably not.
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>>182487478
Only the mini Rappy suit can do that. The big suits can't.
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>>182520682
Now now anon, that's no way to treat a fox.
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So from what I gather everyone here plays on Ship 2 right?
Also, can you play the game with a controller or is it KBM only?
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>>182520937
How do I know this is even you?
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>>182520073
>>182520481
>/fgg/ actually has matchmaking and people actually discuss the games (even the shitposting is mostly on-topic)
>/pso2g/ threads consist of off-topic shitposting and tangentially-related drama no one gaf about; no one even plays together
>even back in its heyday, the thread was used as a springboard for gay erp meetups more than anything else

really makes u think
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>>182521042
People play on ship 4 too. You can use either.
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>>182521102
Now you're getting it
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>>182520481
>complains about pso2g being shit
>is part of the reason it's shit
fuck off
>>182520409
As sad as it is, the blunt retardation of pso2g is better than the gussied up passive aggression on pso-w. 70% of people on both don't know shit but it's a lot less annoying here because people don't write 2000 word essays. Reddit is worse than both because there's only like two good players on the pso2 subreddit and one of them is a collossal prick.
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>>182520768
If only. Having the entire world of ep5 getting Drakengard treatment would be hilarious.
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>>182521065
Because I have never posted these images before.
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>>182521485
>shilling reddit and psow
you have to go back
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>>182521713
How is it shilling if I shit talked both of them
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>>182521713
Fuck off
>>
BALANCE
DOES
NOT
MATTER
BECAUSE
ALL
RELEVANT
CONTENT
IS
PARTY
CONTENT
WHEN
WILL
YOU
GET
IT
THROUGH
YOUR
SKULLS

STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT CLASS CHANGES!!!!!
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>>182520937
Ship 2 is the unofficial English ship, so unless you speak nip, you probably want to roll there.

You don't want to play with pso2g, so where they play doesn't matter.
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>>182521770
>>182521810
>shills this assmad
LMAO@URLYFE
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>>182521932
>You don't want to play with pso2g, so where they play doesn't matter.
Why not?
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>>182522026
Correction, you do t want to play with most of the English-speaking player base.
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>>182522214
Why not?
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>>182521932
>wanting to go to shit2
Enjoy your faggot community and awful economy. I'm so glad I never graced that filth pit.
>>
>>182521810
>>182521770
Fuck off stinky shills
>>
It blows my mind anyone can say balance in fine in this game when Bouncer exists. I'm leveling Bouncer in the LQ with Break Stance and it's literally adding several minutes to the avg clear time compared to when I run this with Fighter. In the time I dispersion strike once I've already done 3 PAs on Fighter and done more than triple the damage.
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>>182521891
this desu
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>>182522674
You're still clearing it, what's the problem?
>muh 2 minute faster clear times
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>>182522674
Bouncer is pure shit, nobody would deny this.
>>
>>182523762
I'm not so sure any more. This general has been acting retarded for so long that I can't tell if they just never get tired of acting stupid or we attracted retards who actually believe this stuff now. Just look at
>>182523358
>>182522781
>>182521891
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>>182522674
Everyone can agree bouncer is the worst class in the entire game both design wise and damage wise
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>>182524310
There's always going to be a "worst" class, stop caring so much about something that doesn't matter.
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>random TD1 announcement
>LQ party I've been running with for over an hour all drop out
Why do people always drop what they're doing to run fucking garbage EQs that don't give anything? It's not even better exp than LQ2.
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>>182522781
That passion won't complete LQ5.
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>>182526192
LQ5 is party content, class balance is irrelevant.
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>>182526367
Explain, please
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>>182526481
You're not the only person in there anon, class balance doesn't matter because you're with 3 other people
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>>182526530
But the quest scales enemy HP depending on number of people in the quest, so someone doing very little damage while everyone else is doing good damage is actually holding the others back.
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>>182526653
It doesn't scale up linearly, you're still clearing it faster in a party regardless. Does it really matter if your run takes 30 seconds longer?
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>>182526896
>you're still clearing it faster in a party regardless
Not true. If you're running with, say, an Fo/Hu you'd be better off with them dropped from the party.
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Will this be good enough to run PSO2?
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>>182527136
Pso2 can be scaled down until it basically looks like a ps1 game, you should at least be able to play like that.
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>>182526530
Keep telling yourself that. You cannot complete LQ5 on XH unless you have UNGA people carry you, otherwise you end up timing out before the final section, which denies you specific completion drops.

The party MPA has to be optimal.
Those "extra few sekunds" means a lot more here than other MPA areas.
So while you think you're styling and doing well, someone else is picking up your slack.

In a team of 4, each member needs to at least have a DPS of 18k for the entire run. Any slacking off jeopardizes a complete run.
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>>182527352
Good thing LQ5 isn't relevant content so that doesn't matter.
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>>182527352
literally finished with like five minutes to spare with four techers
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>>182527787
>drops one of the best rear unit
>not relevant
Not being a tryhard with 180 atk affixes is fine and all but are you really this shit?
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>>182528165
Speaking of the rear, would you happen to know how many slots it drops with? I know it comes with soul catalyst on it already, is it a fixed amount of slots or no? I'm not going to kill myself farming for it if I can't at least save some money reaffixing it when my current Union Rear cost around 60m to make and can't be sold.
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>LQ5
>drops a former 12* unit from sea server with +200 s-atk each and no def (there's 2 other unit, +600 a set)
>changed stat for unknown reason

would be nice if segajp retained the +200 s-atk each unit. would btfo'd everything as long as you don't get hit
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>>182528165
>drops one of the best rear unit
It's a 12* unit after it's been confirmed that there will be no new rings in EP5, that's not exactly good.
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>>182530016
>confirmed there will be no new rings in ep5
How sure are you of this info? It's nothing new for Sega to forget about old systems but rings is kind of a big one to ignore. Pretty screwed up if they nerf bow and leave it without a single good ring.
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>>182530106
Sega has confirmed that there will be no new free fields in EP5. No new free fields means no new gathering areas. No new gathering areas means no new gathering mats, which means no new rings.
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>>182530282
nothing stopping them to make new rings regardless
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>>182530282
They've added new solely using old materials before, that doesn't necessarily mean no new rings.
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>>182529616
I got one with 4s.
A teammate got 1s though.
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>>182530614
Welp, thanks for the info. It's a great unit but not good enough to justify reaffixing anything good.
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>>182524918
>do absolutely miniscule amounts of damage for the amount of effort required both in gameplay and gearing
>massive amounts of work for no reward
>it doesn't matter who cares lol you can just be carried by a bunch of FI in an MPA xD
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>>182531353
It's an extremely common mindset in MMOs, especially casual ones. If people aren't directly punished for their own inability they just make excuses and blame everyone but themself.
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>he didn't sell his shifta boots
I feel sorry for you.
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>>182532417
I sold mine around 7m since it had felt like forever since crys draal, what did they get up to?
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>>182532417
What happened?
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>>182532603
The boss who drops shifta boots is finally the scheduled EQ in pso2es again so you can obtain them again. Price is going to crash if it hasn't already.
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>>182532417
I gave everybody I know the heads up, anybody who kept theirs deserved it, because it'll never get that high again.

>>182532594
they got up to around 10m.

>>182532603
they're back in rotation in ranking event so prices are going to crash hard and never recover.
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>>182532679
Oh nice, thanks for the heads up.
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>>182532713
I wonder why they went so long without doing a draal eq. We've repeated bosses nearly a half dozen times in the time it took draal to come back. Even if they do it again people are going to hoard them like crazy this time.
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>>182533658
Why the long face?
>>
>active friends list in es
>wonder why there's no friend triggers up
>realize i'm one shotting XH bosses without even having 250 element on some elements like lightning
i can very easily see them adding another trigger difficulty, hopefully with an actual difficulty spike instead of just a number spike
>>
>>182533880
What the hell kind of loadout are you on? I have Darker Busters and Anniversary Seraphy and I still need a OP med atk boost to do that.
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>>182533996
Not him, but I'm onepassing dark and ice without much effort with gravirios/yami/soro memorial/nasu/ff10 for dark and dragon slayer instead of nasu for ice. Lightning is a pain in the ass for me
Es really needs a 50% damage squish instead of yet another difficulty.
>>
>>182533996
i run seraphy anniversary, facet 8*, final impact, and yami on every element, with an intensifier to fill out an off element as much as i can. i use darker busters from friend chips. light and wind are my worst elements obviously, but with opmed or pse i can beat those still
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>>182534413
>>182534285
Does Crys Draal not have the typical 80-90m health? I haven't had the chance to actually run it yet.
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>a whole week without keys

kill me
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>>182535332
I want to be free of this hell, I even reset sg shop in hopes of a tokyo gold to no avail.
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tfw everyone hopes for a 14* but I just want the rappy pet
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>>182536768
I'm hoping for the opposite: no rappy pet drop in the remaining few deus I do as SU.
>>
Do the races have any key differences or is it just for aesthetics?
>>
>>182538567
There are some relatively low key stat differences, the largest difference being between newmans and casts in t-atk but it's like, 50 points

It will somewhat affect how quickly you're able to equip new gear at the beginning but overall it's not anything but the most dedicated of minmaxers should concern themselves with
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>>182538567
cast has loadsa hp and no tatk
dooman has lolnohp and good atk stats
numan has lolnohp and great tatk stat
humies are average at everything
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>>182538850
So cast can take it up the ass?
Sounds good then
>>
>>182538567
>>182538850
it should be noted that while humans are the all rounder class, they actually have quite high defense and hp values, barely below cast.
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>>182522674
>dispersion shrike and break stance
But yes, Fighter is better than bouncer, just like how it'll be better than every other class soon because Sega hates support
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>>182538916
If you're not playing Force or Techer (or Jetboot BO kek), CAST is great.
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>>182539106
Are you not supposed to use Dispersion Shrike when you're dealing with like 8+ mobs and they're spread apart or what? I'm only getting Bo to 80, I don't play this class to actually put effort into getting a rainbow set. I have a geared fighter so playing this feels like torture. I don't understand why anyone would play classes that need rainbow when better classes that don't have to bother exist.
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>>182539114
So Hunter is good then?
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>>182539583
75 for the 75 class bonus and the 80sg for capping it at 80.
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Should I drop gunner for fighter?
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>>182539797
Do whatever you want, you probably suck shit anyways.
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>>182539591
yes
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>>182539797
do you have fun as gunner, do you have the gear for fighter, do you die like a shitter
>>
Are any of the non-Seikaiser Yamato weapons worth getting?
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>>182539797
There's no objectively correct answer here. Fighter will probably be a better and much more well rounded class than Gunner in ep5. Gunner isn't bow/bouncer/techer tier bad though so you don't have to feel compelled to switch if you don't want to.
>>182539942
Military TD and TMGs are actually pretty good. I can't comment on the specifics for TMGs but the TDs are actually better than pot2 Zein.
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>>182522372
>wanting to go to shit2
All non japanese knowing players should go there, containment ship.
Ship 4 english community are full of asswipes and suck balls compared to the underground ship 2 teams anyway.
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>>182540275
Military TD are not that great.
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>>182540275
>There's no objectively correct answer here
>Gunner isn't bow/bouncer/techer tier bad though
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>>182540546
How are they not great? The pot is the same as tmg right?
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>>182540275
>Gunner isn't bow/bouncer/techer tier bad though
Doesn't matter, there are only two tiers in ep 5. Fighter, and not fighter. If you're in the second category, then you don't matter.
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>>182540546
I compared them in the damage sim the other day, Military TD were better. Pot2 Zein mind you, not the affix doubler.
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>>182540609
Sorry. They're good for beginners, yes.
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>>182540445
>underground ship2 teams
LMAO

Next you gonna shitpost about 4 being a circlejerk
>>
>not playing in both ships
This is why you're not in the shadow council
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>>182540772
It's not a lie though, you guys are trash.
>>
Which classes are ACTUALLY going to be worth playing in ep 5?
>>
>>182540935
Pretty much only Hero
>>
>>182540928
who
>>
>>182540935
From the looks of things until they let us know the details, Force is the only one not worth playing.
>>
Does hero gets extra R rings by default?
>>
>>182540935
Fighter will be godly at everything
Katana and Hunter will probably be good for super aggressive stuff and put out respectable damage
Force can't boss for shit any more but they're probably the kings of mobbing
MPAs want one (1) techer but if there's a second one you just took damage away from the MPA.
Gunner will probably be one of the best bossing classes but not as good as Fighter
Summoner depends on how badly Maron got nerfed, the class is garbage if Maron is essentially gone
Ranger damage is ok but they still depend on Massive Hunter to do anything and enemies just keep getting more aggressive
Everything else is trash

>>182541062
Force isn't going to be that bad. They might end up as one of the worst bossing classes in the game though
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>>182541201
>Fighter will be godly at everything
So it's the only class worth playing. You could've just left it at that.
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>be in OH
>carry them all
>play with the sekrit ship 2 teams and freelance players
>quality of runs rise immensely
>leave the shit 4 plebs
>month later
>play with them again
>me and outsiders still have to carry them
>>
>>182541506
NA is better than OH and that says a lot.
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>>182540445
I'm an asshole, not an asswipe, get it right.
>>
>stinky fighters still delusional that limit break isn't going to get nerfed to the ground since sega mentioned "active" monitoring after the "rebalance"
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>>182541962
I hope not, I want s-atk affix prices to go up while mine go down.
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>>182541506
who you
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>>182541506
Please bring back Nal
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>>182541201
Summoner does okay without Maron.
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>>182542691
Let the dead stay dead.
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Any videos of good sword hunters going against Deus?
>>
Just got a Qliphad Calibur from Gracia. If I fuse my Zeinesis Calibur into it, will the grind cap increase? I'm thinking no.
>>
>>182544510
Grind the Qliphad to +30 to unlock pot3, then turn it into Zieg to turn it back into Zeinesis. You keep the pot3 without needing to spend fuses and then you can slam Zeinesis caliburs into it to get +35.
>>
>>182544494
https://youtu.be/AU7HPEXMbCg
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Tell me about Phantasy Star Online Tsu.
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Does anyone know if the Twin Machinegun Stance Up ring buff stacks if it's affixed onto more than one 12* unit?
I'm guessing no because that would be a pretty ridiculous damage boost.
>>
>>182545510
Rings can't stack they just overwrite the lower level ones
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>>182545390
It's better than Runescape
>>
>>182546161
Alas. I figured it was something like that. Thanks, anon.
>>
>>182546390
But worse than Tibia?
>>
>>182545390
It's worse than old school Runescape
>>
I've been getting consistent 630 errors (around 5 or 10 min after logging in) since the update Tuesday. I know its not my net because it's been running totally fine otherwise, so I'm sure there's some issue with the game, though I have no clue what would cause the 630
>>
>>182549879
run a file check
>>
>>182549879
While I can't give you a solution, I can confirm that 630s can be an issue with the game and not the connection. Back in ep3 I used to 630 in TD4 right as apprentice died, once per EQ. That was the weirdest part, it was guaranteed to happen one of the times but the 2nd TD4 run would be fine. Anyway, this went on for months until I eventually just stopped running it as I got the orbit I needed. I ran all the troubleshooting techniques like file checking and all that stopping short at completely reinstalling. I never figured it out, it just stopped happening when I tried running TD4 again at some point.
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>you will never enter Yamato itself and fight a phantom crew
>>
I've finally capped 80/80, should I bother to continue using 75% exp boosters?
>>
>>182556821
Save them for hero if you're doing that.
>>
How many runs does a Zeinesis file take to complete?
>>
>>182559414
5-6, depending on boosters.
>>
Is the NT military katana still bad?
>>
>Less than 2 weeks before HERO DESU comes out
It's really fucking troubling because the next Nioh DLC releases on the same day as the update here.
>>
>>182560815
Yes, the potentials were only improved not changed which was the whole problem with it the first time.
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>>182561441
Isn't the same potential on the gunner and fighter ones and those are considered pretty good?
>>
>>182561601
It's a crit potential. The only classes who make use of crit are Gu and Fi
>>
So I just hit 75/75, where should I look for units? I've got austere arm/rear, but that leaves a decent leg unit. I'm not sure if I'd make it to 30 fuses for a Qliphad at 1-2 fuses per run.
>>
Are there any alternate enemies to farm for the guren zombie part of yamato files that fill completion decently fast?
>>
>>182561738
Honestly, your best bet is to spam lq ep 1-4 and hope for the best. If you need a 12* unit, just get the exchange 12*. it's complete trash compared to a real one, but what can you do apart from get lucky? If you can get a zen leg, use that as a stopgap, but dont actually convert it to cliff until you've gotten your weeapons first since it's 120 fuses for a weapon with good pot vs 60 for one unit.
>>
>>182561929
Ep 1-4 LQ and Train Ghidoran Supression

Neither give any decent %, but those are your only options aside from Yamato.
Running Yamato 6 times and 1 Train Ghidoran usually gets me the completion with a 250% RDR and 100% Tri
>>
>>182561929
>>182562315
Train Ghidoran Suppression doesn't have the zombies needed for sheets
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the Qutest
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>>182562171
I don't see the 1-4 LQ in the menu anymore. Unless you mean the separate LQs?
The LQs dropped Ray units, right? About how rare are they? Like 1 in a 100 runs or so?
>>
>>182562404
It doesn't, but for whatever reason, it'll still fill the gauge/drop the equip. At least it has in the past for me
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>>182562584
the shittest
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>>182562171
there's a guren zombie spawn at 4th area of lq 1-4 (moon area). that explains the gauge filled a bit.
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>>182539583
I like how Bo plays
Too bad Sega wants me to put five times the effort in gearing for a miniscule fraction of what any other classes can muster
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>>182562682
Are you selecting the right menu option? It's the topmost one, not the osusume one which only lists episode 3 right now.
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>>182563438
You need to complete all previous episodes first to unlock 1-4
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>>182563438
I don't have the gear for the ep1-4 LQ anyway, so it's not like it matters.
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>>182512391
>5hrs
Well? its been 5hrs
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>>182563645
Just let the other 3 people carry you, that seems to be the plan of a lot of other posters here.
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>>182563801
I don't have expert block access, there's no one to carry me here in the dumps of XH blocks. I can barely even find groups that won't time out on the regular LQs.
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>>182563971
Welcome to the biggest problem with PSO2 right now. I'd honestly recommend just quitting the game.
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>>182563743
You didn't respond at the correct time--I assumed you lost interest, so I unplugged my drive. I can plug it back in, just give me five hours.
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>>182563801
You have to have at least 1 competent person and one semi competent person to clear an ep 1-4 LQ, otherwise you'll just end up failing to fully clear it.
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>>182563743
Uncensored versions don't exist because I don't take them.
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>>182541506
You sound like a real piece of shit, I am glad you're gone. Please stay on shit2.
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>>182541506
ok kemicho, you didn't have to transfer to ship 4 to find out what was already known in this general
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>>182566080
>kemicho
suddenly it all makes sense.
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I miss tsuni
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>>182564090
Is it really that bad? Should I just get out while I still can?
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>>182567163

Just have fun and don't take this game too seriously.
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Remember when OH was good?
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>be in a pyg with people from this general's over 80 percent of them aren't in a team yet they shit talk everyone and everything
I know its /vg/ and /mmo/ faggotry in a nutshell but still
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>>182564090
Join a team and play/make friends with them anon. Right now, this game is so stale, all the top geared players aren't doing shit, because there is nothing to do. I'm sure some will help you out.
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>>182567483
If the game is that stale, should I even continue playing or move on?
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>>182567163
>>182567725
Are you having fun? continue playing.
Are you not having fun? move on.
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>>182567725
>should I even continue playing
Nope.
Go away.
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>>182567965
I'm not having that much fun right now because I feel so underpowered in XH content with trash gear, 30k IF0's are just depressing. The prospect of having to get even more classes to 75 for the bonuses is turning me off pretty hard too.
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>>182567416
People on /vg/ are almost universally cowards, regardless of the game.
The reason they talk so much shit is because they think that they can lower others to their miserable level but never realize that talking shit just waste time they could be using getting better.
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>>182568104
>wahhhh why am I not strong as people playing this game for years
>wahhhh I just started but I want everything handled to me and do the same content as everyone else just like them
People like you is why videogames are shit nowadays.
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>>182568306
>muh grind
Fuck off retard
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Can you use ignite parry on Double's cars? I just want the invincibility.
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>>182568382
>waaahhhhh handle everything to me, I don't want to grind!!1!1
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>>182568104
Post gear and skill tree.

>>182568462
Yes, you can parry the cars.
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>>182568462
Yes, but if you just want only safety you can mostly just use Guilty Break to dash the fuck away.
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>>182568489
Yes I would fucking prefer not having to grind and having fun instead.
>Oh no my only superiority over newer players in the game comes from autistic grind Sega must absolutely not allow them to outdamage me
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>>182568306
So just because he wasnt here day 1 and stayed since day 1 he has to suffer through copious ammounts of dead and forgten content?
The main problem I have with pso2 is that theirs so much fucking shit thats ignored by the playerbase because of thr "I got mine" mentality. It doesnt help that Sega's shitty ass development of this game enforces this with constantly dating content and locking progress between 3 hour intervals that last 20-30 mins.
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>>182568690
>oh yeah, I just joined XH and I want to deal more damage than everyone else
Fuck off.

>>182568708
Not since day one, but yes, they have to suffer through everything others suffered. Fuck entitled new players that want to parachute in end game in a month. Make these niggers grind 6 months, if not a year.
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>>182569012
I hope you enjoy carrying me for a few months then. I'll be sure to post my 14* drop too, along with the subclass I was leveling while I got it.
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>>182569012
>Fuck off.
Wrong
If someone is actually skilled enough to deal more damage than everyone else he should.
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>>182569327
Joke's on you, you'll never get in any circlejerk to play with me.

>>182569339
He should, after grinding for months for proper gear.
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>>182569494
>He should, after grinding for months for proper gear.
Why should he grind for months and still not get drops due to RNG? Because you got shafted on it and are now butthurt about someone having it easier?
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>>182569563
>get 14* drop with unaffixed hiei
>suddenly it'll outdamage people with end game 13* with properly affixed units
You're delusional. The grind for affixes is steep and depends very little on rng.
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>>182568306
I wouldn't have an issue with it if PSO2 actually gave you ways to gear up without being a leech. But there's no real progression, there's just the leveling content and then whatever the current endgame is, with no in between.
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>>182569758
Why are you bringing unrelated points. I precisely want to cut the difference between unit affixes. Also once you drown like 60m into affixes the benefits start not being to important unless you're playing Fighter and need that extra hp while keeping up attack and PP.
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>check new "summoner" costumes incoming during july 26 scratch
does anyone even likes those?
also female hero seems thick
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>>182570035
Like, I'm not having fun because I'm obviously getting carried, but I can't actually progress without getting carried because there's no content appropriate for the level of gear a new level 75 player is most likely going to have. I'd fucking love if I could grind something actually appropriate for a while. Instead you're dropped in the deep end and told to hang on to someone else or drown.
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>>182570035
>>182570452
This is what non expert xh blocks are for. Get a +35 nox and you'll be king of the dps in your mpa.
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>>182570070
>once you drown like 60m into affixes the benefits start not being to important
You forgot one zero there.
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>>182570526
I have an element maxed aura, and I still feel underpowered. And the only relevant thing I can do is LQs, where I can barely pull my weight, and I have to gamble on whether I end up with overgeared players that can make up for it, or other fresh players like myself that will inevitably time out.
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>>182570863
>>182568491
Do this and I can see what I can do to help.
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>>182570863
Join a team and look for people to run stuff with you.
Infinity have lots of players on your level.
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>>182571098
7/11 mafia is a better fit
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>storyboard quest starts with a monotonous duel which lasts way too long
>thousands of cutscenes
>then some stop&go fighting with annoying as fuck enemies
>topped off by a really fucking annoying bossfight which has an insta-gibbing attack when low on health
>dying there means you can repeat about half an hour of content :^)
No wonder people were trashing on EP4. The story is not only "SAO as imagined by SHAFT", it also introduced enough enemies with stunlocking potential in one group to make FromSoftware blush.
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>>182571240
711 is dead
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>>182570684
nope
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>>182571661
So you're a shitter and should fuck off.
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>>182571451
They introduced easy mode for you...
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>>182570863
did you get the arena booster potential on your aura? gunner is also the most unforgiving new class for a new player. your mobbing is trash and your bossing is subpar outside of chain, which is insanely easy to fuck up as a new player without knowing all the kinks to the game. i honestly would say to pick another class and if you still aren't enjoying yourself then the game just isn't for you
>>182571451
literally you're undergeared for your level, play easy mode
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why do people shit on summoner so much in this game barring the maron throwing and aesthetics? I've seen some people get pissy that summoner doesnt have to worry about affixing but doesnt the candy compression cost more than affixing regular weapons? i dont get it

>>182568158
i think he was referring to the shitters from this general's discord
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>There are people that went and made all attack type units just because sega said so before we could even get our hands on the class
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>>182572291
i'll get my hands on your neck
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>>182572291
>only one of the weapons will be useful
>mfw when people are buying returners to make all atk units
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>>182572291
>Can make a 120 / 70 / 70/ 3 PP unit in 4 slots for decently cheap
It's not like I spent a lot.
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>>182572778
>3 pp
nice job shitter
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>>182572291
I believe Hero will need to use more than one weapon type in order to be even decent and even I think this is silly to do atm
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>>182570974
Austere arm/rear, badge leg for the ring slot. Aura TMG that I'll probably replace with the NT Yamato one once I've finished that. Haven't done much affixing yet since I'm not sure which class to stick with for ep 5 yet though. http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php?11eIbxIkbCIobCIobxIkbCIobCIobCIobCIobCIo0jdodBIbl2lNGAnfdJksXI20000006doIn0000000jdoib0000000fdoIbideBgXqDGAJkI2dnIs00009o00000000ioIn00000000IbIo0000000jdoIb0000000jdB0000000 skill tree, obviously missing class cube bonus points and the last 5 levels.
>>182571924
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>>182572838
You can call me a shitter all you want but I'll be having fun and still have better units than 95% of the people playing :^)
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>>182572951
Whoops.
Yeah, I got the arena potential. I was playing Fighter before but found it kind of boring. DS mobbing was just a complete joke, and the class has too many invulnerability frames to be all that engaging to play. For all the reward, I never felt all that much of a risk.
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>>182572778
I know pp suffers when doing all attack type units but thats pretty fazz tier
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>>182571814
>>182571924
>undergeared
I mean 12* weapon and units IS kinda undergeared for lvl75 by now, but are you guys seriously telling me SEGA made this shit XH tier hard? Or am i just fucked by some weird experimental scaling mechanism that they're either never gonna use again and remains an oddity forever, or is going to be the paving stone for "unlimited content™!"
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>>182573251
I honestly don't even think it'll matter. In the videos showing hero gameplay they seemed to use like no PP at all for their PAs.
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>>182573358
I don't know what to say. Story enemies generally deal pretty big damage but their HP isn't that much, but they also don't die to a single scratch. If you're playing on normal the story is supposed to be kinda challenging, there are some checkpoint in between too. Shit I don't even know what class you play.
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>pso2g cant even clear the story quest
CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP
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>>182573968
but i did
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>The swords in the Hero art and gameplay videos are different
Are we going to get both or what's going on here?
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>>182574532
>The swords in the Hero art and gameplay videos are different
I actually had no idea. The one in the act looks way better.
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>>182572951
>>182573104
And yes, I'm using the stance up ring too. Don't have effort symbol yet for R, obviously.
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>>182575206
You shouldn't be using effort symbol for gunner anyways. Get the crit ring so you hit 100%.
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>>182575303
I thought effort symbol was the crit one? I'm a bit new to all this, obviously.
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>>182575498
Effort symbol gives 2% damage less and 10% crit rate less than the actual crit ring.

https://pso2.arks-visiphone.com/wiki/Skill_Rings
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>>182573558
Dealing lots of damage wouldn't be a problem if it were balanced with side-effects and the amount of enemies. If you are constantly trying to dodge 6 lasersights and 4 birds that if any of them hit you once has the potential to stunlock you to death is already concerning. But they throw in even more enemies, and as mentioned a boss with an instagibbing attack with an AOE as large as the arena.
The worst of all though is that if you die, you have to retry it all from scratch. It's not particularly "hard" or "challenging", just tedious because of the duration of these fights and loading screens. It honestly feels like playing Umbrella Corps.
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>>182577359
>a boss with an instagibbing attack with an AOE as large as the arena.
If you're talking about Mother then you should have a checkpoint right before the fight.

As for mobs you should just try killing them as early as possible. Charge right into the fray while they are still spawning.
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>>182571924
Not him but as a new-ish gunner player what would you recommend switching to then? Everyone I ask just tells me it's fighter or quit for ep 5 but I dunno if they're memeing.
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>>182572935
Well yeah. There's a large damage boost for using Hero PAs or Techs after a weapon change.
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>>182578047
H U N T ER
U
G
E
Sword
W
O
R
D
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>>182578047
>I dunno if they're memeing.
Of course they are. This general is nothing but shitposting at its best and is actually the worst general on this site at its worst. Don't take most things you read here seriously.
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>>182578879
Name a class that's actually worth playing over Fighter then. Go on. I'll wait.
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>>182578971
Techer
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>>182578971
Literally any class you want to? I don't get this whole fi meme shit that goes on here when literally no class has trouble clearing any of the content in this game.
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>>182579092
I asked you which class was worth playing OVER fighter. You've yet to mention any class that has an advantage over fighter.
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>>182579372

>>182579092

You can play whatever you prefer over figher because it actually couldn't matter less. Is fighter strong right now? Sure, but that doesn't change the point that it's entirely irrelevant in this easy ass game.
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>>182579558
So you've got no arguments then. Should've said so from the start.
It's not like personal preference even applies, every other class is either too weak or too shallow to be fun.
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>>182579734
Hunter has more depth than Fighter
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>>182579734
>Every other class is either too weak or too shallow to be fun
>Weak
lol
>Shallow
Yeah rotating 2 PAs makes fighter really deep right :^)

I'll give you a 6/10 you actually got me to reply to your memes.
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>>182579861
>Yeah rotating 2 PAs makes fighter really deep right :^)
Beats spamming one tech or one PA over and over. And yes, every other class is weak.
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>>182580064
:)
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>>182580064
>Beats spamming one tech or one PA over and over
Fifags are this delusional lmao
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Nerf limit break or give everyone limit break and TAJA
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>>182573968
What story quest do they want you to clear? I thought I finished the story.
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>>182579786
They're pretty much the same because they share the same skills, most notably TAJA
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>>182578047
just try out all the classes and see what you like. just know that in the upcoming content that'll be relevant for at least until late fall/early winter, bouncer will probably be the shittest class
>>182579558
>>entirely irrelevant in this easy ass game
>when just a couple posts earlier people were complaining about not doing enough damage or parties sucking ass in XH blocks
do you play exclusively in team MPAs? even expert block pubs are shit and still fail TDVR
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>>182582032
>just try out all the classes and see what you like.
Worst possible advice. He should do research and pick a class that's good, and if he doesn't like the good classes he should play a different game.
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>>182582513
:)
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>>182581736
Except Hunter weapons have way more deep of dealing maximum damage than Fighter's going ham on the core.
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>>182579786
Nope, as there is no easy way around HU's mechanics. Top DPSDPP is tied to a strict JG timing. I wish Hunter and jet boots on BO were much stronger than Fighter and dual blades on BO respectively, since they are much less braindead to play. Too bad
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>>182583821
Oops meant to quote
>>182581736
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Could wired lance end up better than partizan in episode 5?
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>>182585012
Wired Lance is broken shit. Sega made a great job making weapon shine only when you take Automated Halfline and macro your Holding Current.
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>>182583821
That's a nice post but you forgot to switch every instance of Hunter with Sword. On top of that Sword's bossing is the weakest of the three. Wired Lance top DPSDPP is pretty much required to be used with Automate and Partizan can get around many volg issues with Massive.
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Aside from Shirona, is there any fast way to hoard triboosts? I want to be prepared for all the triggers on boost week.
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>>182580197
>>182582571
:Q
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Hey just coming back to this game after a long break, is Bo/Fo still shit?
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>>182586618
Yes. Thankfully in a few weeks Fo/Te will be shit too.
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>>182586693
But I just want to kick shit...
What's FUN now?
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>>182586802
Hunter
Usually you just kick shit as Bo/Hu without using techs for damage
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>>182586802
>But I just want to kick shit

play bo/hu then you stupid cat
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>>182587336
>>182587219
But I want to kick shit with LIGHTNing
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>>182587398
Fuck you then. Play Hunter anyway
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>>182587479
Alright..
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>>182587585
Good kot
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>>182587654
Oh, last thing
Is it easier to level now?
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>>182588214
Compared to when? The level cap is now 80 but there is only one quest currently that wants you to be 80/80. You're also in luck because we get EP2 LQ that has great exp, and other episodes are going through special campaign that boosts their exp.
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>>182588454
Like, 2 years ago or so.
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>catposter
Are you that faggot from poeg threads?
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>>182588594
No I just really like Blini sorry.
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Since the rare drop RNG is counted separately for each individual item, does that mean that the chance of getting a rare drop from Gracia is 1/4 that of Zephyros considering he only drops 1/4 of the loot?
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>playing Techer with pubs
>party tells me what to use Zanverse when Anga resists
>"You don't have to tell me, I know how to play my class"
>entire party doesn't change weapons during Anga
>they're all being resisted
>they blame me and my zanverse for the low DPS
>"wait, you guys have alternate weapons, right?"
>"lol no, the gear's a waste of SP"
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>>182592953
>ship2
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>>182592953
>Blaming you for zanverse damage when it's using their damage
This is clearly XH block shittery.
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I really hope we get Loser's partner card in ep5.
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>>182590335
The reason Gracia drops less is because of the mobbing section being cut out. His drop rates are the same.
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Anyone got an optimal Fi/hu tree?
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>>182595031
You mean Hu/Fi
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>>182595409
you mean Hu the fuck cares
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>>182596216
Very funny I will Over End you last
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>>182562584
aaaaaah
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>>182572670
Talis looks like it will have great utility with its warp thing, so it'd still be technically "useful" weapon even if it was the only thing it was good for and not actual T-ATK
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>>182597037
I mean sword has a dash with a stupid amount of reach, comparable with guren, so it's not like that warp is going to change much.
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>>182598113
there are (indestructable?) walls put up in buster quests preview videos that you can most efficiently traverse by teleporting above them and dropping down, horizontal movement wouldn't be terribly useful there
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What's the STRONGEST class?
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>>182598501
:)
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>>182598501
Hero
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>>182572291
You're really in denial, huh?
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>Fo/Hu casting dark techs
>Fo/Bo that never casts techs, period
>Gu/Ra that does nothing but stand very far away from enemies and use Elder Rebellion
>Te/Br doing less damage than my wand with his katana
>can't even get past Anga
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>>182598501
Hero desu
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>>182600042
Sounds like a personal problem
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>>182598501
hero, my signature class
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>>182600042
Wow just like when anga farming was a thing and ship2 never knew how to do it correctly
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>>182600360
at least you had twelve people then
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Is Solus showing us the fate of all FO?
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Is it better to attempt to get a Lambda Helfret drop from Dragon Ex on SH? If I understand this drop guide correctly it says it will roll for each set of level ranges it can drop in, which should be like four or five times at 65 as opposed to half that at 55? Or am I completely misunderstanding this?
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>>182601463
Who?
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How do I +35 a 13*?
Do I seriously need 5 copies of the same weapon in order to get the last five levels?
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>>182601885
You need 35 of the same weapon
I grinded 3 of the same 13 stars together and it was only +4
Enjoy your endgame content
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>>182601463
>Male Hu gets all the bitches
Water is wet btw
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>>182601885
Yes, you need 6 total of the same weapon to get it to +35. If you don't like it, then quit now.
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>>182601885
You need six copies of the same weapon. One is naturally capped at 30, and feeding five more of the same weapon raises this cap to 35.
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>>182602109
>There are people who think male human hunters get all the bitches because Sega said so
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>>182601885
>Do I seriously need 5 copies of the same weapon
Not necessarily.
If you go to the 2nd page of the weapon's details, you'd see what its current max cap is.

13*s that you get from completing cfiles always come with 30 max cap.
Dropped 13*s could have a cap anywhere from 30 to 34 which means if you got lucky, you'd only need 2
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>>182601885
There's a shortcut method that only needs 1 copy but it only works for a few specific weapons - converting an OT 13* to NT via zieg will have 35 cap unlocked already, but only a few weapons can be converted this way.
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>>182602608
Didnt know about that grind cap thing on droppes 13*'s. Thanks. Looks like I only need one then for 35 but it isnt a C-file weap so i imagine its going to be a massive pain in the ass getting people to play with to get it.
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>>182602109
it's PROPAGANDA
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>>182601552
Just run the LQ. All the bottom-left and top-right items drop there.
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>>182602737
You will want multiple copies of those to get 60 element though, otherwise you'd be relying on expensive element boosters
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>>182604125
If you want to use it, yes. If you just want it to unlock expert block, unlock lv80 cap for a class, or just for stat 6 SAF, you don't really care about the element.
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>>182603834
would it be more efficient to run it on VH or SH
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>>182604294
Based on the framing of the original question I'd guess that guy would actually want to use it but maybe not
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>tfw blossom rose isnt a multicamo
fuck
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>>182605463
I've masturbated to this character so many times
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>>182607695
wut
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>>182605463
I saw this elf in the lobby
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is Gu/Te good?
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>>182572291
I was making an all attack type unit set before sega told people to anyway, just waiting on the boost week to put it together.
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>dat techer who came back to unfreeze me when everyone else ran off
i'd suck her dick no homo
>>
>>
How long does it take for a key to expire once you get it?
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>>182614516
It's exactly seven days, unless it was handed out as part of some kind of promotional campaign thing in which case it might be set to a few months from now
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>>182612138
no, why would you even remotely think that?
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>>182616106
because he saw ignition do it
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>>182614889
Thanks!
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>>182616161
who?
i just thought it could be fun..
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>>182616595
Te as a sub for anything outside of Fo generally bad since no other class uses techs effectively and the main support skills are locked as main class only.
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friendly reminder that Fi is the best subclass for Summoner :^)
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>>182598501
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>>182619768
this meme is arranged in the wrong order for a majority of it
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>>182619865
that's what makes it a meme
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>>182620929
no, i'm saying the formatting for said meme is out of order
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What do I do about Anga as Te/Hu?
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>>182621404
don't smack it with your wand for one phase then smack it on the next
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>>182620997
>caring about how objectively correct a meme is
this guy
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>>182621502
What if every pubby on my ship for the past 6 hours has been so horrendous at their class, and the game, and understanding stats to equip good gear, that if I don't do damage, Anga never even transitions to his second phase?
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when is dudu nerf?
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>>182621659
You could grab a light ele all class partisan, I guess. That's really your only other option.

>>182621747
Next week starting on the 19th.
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>VR
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>>182621874
Could you recommend one? All I could find were OT ones, and after grinding one to +4 before hitting a wall of WARNING/Grind-2 I realized that getting it to +10 to make it even comparable to my wand would be a very expensive nightmare.
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>>182622025
If you want an NT, your options are:
ラムダパティルメリアVer2, which requires 2016 weapon badges
ロザンアリオン, which comes from ES (and is at the moment unobtainable i think?)
or, lastly, 血槍ヴラド・ブラム, which came from Halloween 2016 and the current EP1 LQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVkkHVl8QvE
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>>182622735
What the hell.

We need to go back to Ragol
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2PlaI2roK0
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>>182623385
EP6 will start with the player's campship approaching Ragol but before you're able land it explodes into pieces
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>>182623496
>mfw EP6 will take place in pioneer 1 accompanying commander Heathcliff Flowen
>you get to fight alongside him and see how he gets infected
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>>182623927
It's an alternate universe where he's a loli
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>slicers coming soon
See you in EP6 my dudes
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>>182624151
we already saw him in episode 4
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>>182624695
why are you lying
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>>182624810
how could you forget him
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How would you personally make Phantasy Star big outside of Japan?
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>>182625050
releasing an english version of PSO2
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>>182625050
It was already big but making big again for the west and maintaining whatever quality this game has over the rest would be impossible since they would censor the hell out of it all/no collabs.
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>>182625130
But that's the thing, would it take off with the current presentation fitted into the game?
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>>182625247
with ep5? it's pretty possible, though maybe toning down the requirements for hero
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>>182625361
There is no reason to tone down the requirements for Hero, it's supposed to be an expert class.
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>>182625247
If the game can't take off the way that it already is then, to put it bluntly, it doesn't deserve to.
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>>182625432
yeah, but if you released pso2 with hero locked right off the bat behind such high requirements, people would have a long time to wait
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>>182625580
They have nine other classes they can play until then.
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>>182625529
I'm saying there's a difference in appeal between Phantasy Star Online 1 and 2.
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>>182598501
Unironically Katana Braver.
The high survivability goes a long way.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouKcCW2aC54
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>>182625696
that doesn't solve the problem of having an exciting class that you can't play for months
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>>182625839
>Months
Eh it took me like a week or so to max 3 classes for Hero it really isn't that bad
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>>182625839
It's not a problem. The class is intended to only be accessible to experienced players. Maybe they'll loosen up later like they did with Fighter, Gunner, and Techer, but that's much later.
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>>182625831
>1min in
>"this game never got an official english translation"
>video was published in june 29, 2017
So did this guy miss SEA server entirely?
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>>182625764
I'm not really sure what you mean by that. PSU and PSPo both had players who had never touched PSO1 as well alongside those who did. I mean, you're going to get a mix either way.
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>>182625831
This video is amazing.
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>>182626335
The sooner everyone forgets about the SEA server, the better
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>>182626335
SEA blocked western IPs I believe
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>>182626408
Essentially SEGA would want PSO2 to be on par with Warcraft, XIV, Elder Scrolls, Star Wars, Guild Wars and so on.

I'm saying if PSO2 were to release, say only in the US even, it wouldn't grab those people.
It's almost too Japanese. Combat, story, the aesthetics.

So PSO2 obviously would appeal to people knee deep in Japanese media already, because it's familiar, it looks like an episode of Gundam 00.
And that's fine, but at the same time it would also need a heavier sci-fi aesthetic.
Phantasy Star needs that older anime feel in its presentation at the forefront of a Western release.
It needs that Bebop feel, that End of the Millenium feel, that Gundam Wing feel.
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>>182625831
>calls the story shit
>only played EP4's story
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>>182627168
EP1-3 are the pretty much the same with Matoi always acting retarded
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>>182627168
The whole thing he was going on about with it just being a shittttload of a cut scenes one after the other is something EP1 through 3 is just as guilty of

You could make the argument that EP4 putting everything on the story board in one place actually streamlined all that awful Matter Board crap too
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>>182627168
I don't think he had the English patch, so he didn't go through the grid.
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>>182626898
>It's almost too Japanese. Combat, story, the aesthetics.
It's one of the things that makes the game unique. Not saying they shouldn't try at all to broaden the game's appeal, but they shouldn't inadvertently take away from what makes the game great, either.
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Can it be boost week yet? I want to affix these fucking weapons already.
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>>182626898
PSO2 was never meant to take off outside of Japan. It just wouldn't work. PSO1 fans and the people who beg for a localization would fucking hate PSO2 if they actually played for a few weeks because it is too different.. Even now, most of the English community on JP server is only playing because Stockholm Syndrome (or in some cases, because they want to get their virtual dicks wet)
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>>182628153
No I think they'd love the combat, any MMO/Online player would.
What they would hate it the overly anime/Japanese aesthetic.

But if you market it through a late-90's anime aesthetic, which PSO1 sort of did along with all the
early 2000's console JRPGs, you would get the playerbase.
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>>182628153
what about us PSU and PS0 fags? we like the game for what it is and enjoy it. i met some PSO1 fans like the game legitimately. i remember someone shitting on me and a group of friends because we were Universe babbies and blamed us for PSO2 being shit
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>>182628390
the issues with the complaints about the aesthetic are kinda dumb since they got to atleast keep with current aesthetic trends (PSO1 was doing this too) in order for people to fucking gain interest and shit. granted im just regurgitating the obvious but fucking still
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>emergency code (distraction)
https://youtu.be/9F5p1_hR2Ws
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>>182629168
How fucking hard is it to get some gaijin with an AI sounding voice?
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>>182628578
pretty much every game in the series, the old ones included, are more or less a product of their time

I guess Phantasy Star Zero sort of sticks out as an oddity but even then they had some kind of weird Nintendo/PSO hybrid thing going
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>>182629312
I always wondered if there's a job for a gaijin to voice all the gaijin characters in anime.
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>>182629402
In the rare instances it's happened they usually seem to hire just some rando gaijin who doesn't even voice act to do it and it sounds just as out of place
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>>182629343
it eventually becomes (it practically is) a different strokes for different folks type affair but that the western PSO community is in general its more or less a more sterilized version of the classic vs modern sonic shit you see today
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I mean it's not like anime aesthetic doesn't have an audience these days even if some pso1 nerds might hate it

As a PSO1 nerd I'm actually perfectly fine with it
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>>182629889
its not even that its just more of the whole anime stigma in the west, ironic weebs, the contrarian type of nostalgia fag, etc.
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>>182629862
I still run into the occasional weirdo that still wants a "traditional" turn-based Phantasy Star V
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>ran Ep2 LQ until I couldn't stand it anymore yesterday
>Ep3 LQ was hellish today because of people's inability to deal with Anga
>tomorrow's Ep4 LQ is going to be even worse with the addition of Deadleon on top of Anga and their inability to target the big fucking glowing weak points on phantoms
Maybe I should just try to get a party for SHAQs...

>>182629889
I have at least three friends who I played PSO with back in the day who were hyped for PSO2, then immediately quit after all the trouble getting it set up because they hated the anime aesthetic so much.

I don't get it. I haven't watched anime myself for like a decade and I still don't get how they could be so downright offended by it.
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>>182630049
technically Skies of Arcadia was PS V since it was done by the same chick in charge of the rpgs
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>>182628153
gunxgrave must be the most blacklisted person in this game.
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>>182629168
This is the go-to Engrish clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVBEqVuF60I
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>>182630127
I get what you're saying, but it doesn't really work like that
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>>182630127
>Chick

Nani?
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>>182630068
If people in this thread have so much trouble with anga, why don't you bring a class with multiple good weapons. Like Fighter
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>>182629987
I know how that shit feels. Just make any sort of comment on youtube while having an anime avatar and people will jump on your shit so fast, it'd break people's necks

>fag is so mad I called her favorite gurl gamer streamer shit
>constantly calls me a weaboo while replying to every guy who posts in the thread
>goes to my page, comes back, and says "lol this weaboo play weaboo shit"
>check out his account
>naruto playlist
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>>182630468
2 people were the creators of the series (the first game anyways) Kotaro Hayashida and Miki Morimoto

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantasy_Star

remember those director interviews they had on those Sega genesis collections for for PS2, PS3, and 360? she was mentioned and had a short video in one of them


>>182630705
anti weeb are legitimately more cring than real weebs
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>>182630705
Like a lot of things on the internet, what started as a meme became more and more diluted as time went on and it spread until the point that there was no sense of irony left. Just a genuine sense of malice for something they've been conditioned to hate arbitrarily.
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>>182630468
>>182630794
My mistake, i listed the wrong chick. the correct one's name was Rieko Kodama. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rieko_Kodama she was the who did Skies of arcadia
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>>182630862
thats basically /pol/ and /v/ in a nutshell
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PSO2 Station in about 21(?) hours
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>>182630183
I actually like talking to him.
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>Want to sleep
>God in 4hours
What do
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>>182630705
>commenting on videos
>on youtube
Mate...
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>>182631280
What's even left to reveal? We know basically everything about Hero. Unless they're taking back the balance changes right before they happen.
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>>182632435
Probably updates following the initial release. Could be something similarly 'big' like gathering was (we didn't get that info in the initial EP4 announcement).
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>>182632435
They haven't given us a road map in a long time, we have no clue what is happening past July except Beach Wars. We also haven't seen Hero's skill tree. On the topic of the balance changes, the JP community was pretty loudly upset after they were first revealed. Personally I would bet against the changes being different, there is a small chance that they've been altered. IIRC, this station is taking place at a live event as well so plenty of time will be padded by hijinks and don't forget es getting its obligatory 20 minutes.
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>>182632435
>take back the balance changes
Nope, eat shit
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>>182632620
>Compounds make up more than half of Force damage on bosses
>You can only do them 1/4 as often now on bosses, even less often on mobs
Force is OP but I can't help but feel the solution wasn't just make them bouncer tier on bosses.
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>>182632620
Bow and Techer are getting destroyed by the changes dude. They aren't exactly god tier right now
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>>182632932
I don't give a single shit about them, Techer should stay with it's shitty normal attack build and provide zondeel and buffs for the real classes. Bow can eat a dick too.
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>>182633080
I too think no one should be allowed to play classes I don't like.
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You can play bow, bouncer, non buff techer and fo all you want just don't bring that shit near me, ok? I'm a hustler.
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>>182633080
Who's going to want to provide zondeel and buffs for cunts like you if the class sucks?
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>>182632435
>>182632562
Something "big" like that for late September/November or so we'll probably only get a teaser trailer at the end for

At the very least they will be going over what's coming for late August/early September the first update, which would be Beach Wars and the new Fornis that broke in the magazine we saw I guess.
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>>182633572
I wish they would all just quit the game. I had an LQ with two bow bravers yesterday and it was by far the slowest of the day. Just stop playing the fucking game, they probably won't even get the memo sega hates them with the ep5 nerfs.
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>>182633894
That's just unfortunate. Was it in an XH block? Because I rarely see bow bravers but when I do they're decent at least.
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>>182633574
desu, I'm a wand/buff techer and I don't care how much of a cunt that guy is if he knows the content and actually makes use of the buffs I'm not playing a fun class in order to provide.

you don't realize how shit everyone is at the game until you're playing a class that can't contribute to killing bosses.
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>>182634574
XH blocks. Bow doesn't have the tools for mobbing and bosses that move fast. Waste of a party slot.
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>>182634761
>can't even get in expert blocks
>yet is a bow expert
hmmm...
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Is pso2es worth getting in to?
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>>182635042
I meant to say expert, i forgot what they were named
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>>182635109
No, fuck off.
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>>182635109
No, it really isn't. Just use it for the free 100 storage and the gathering/collection search daily (also for the daily EXP and SG tickets).
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Alright, screw bow bravers they're going to be extinct anyways. How's this for a katana br build?
http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php?11eSbCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIodS0fdBdBIokAIkI2IbdoINjGKJkrAI20000006doInI2JIdKeBfJkfHnINdodo00000fdoib0000000fdo0000000Io00000000ioIn00000000dodB4NfdAjcKrKHSDxdBbn00000fdoIb0000000jdB0000000
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>>182635149
(You)
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>>182636002
They should nerf katana into the ground too
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>>182635109
For the storage? Definitely
For the story? Maybe
For the intent of farming extreceptors and making a profit out of them? Depends on how much you really want it

I played a different mobile game back then(due to irl circumstances, I could only play on smartphones). Took me almost an entire month to get up to speed with its current content.

I'm guessing getting into pso2es' end game would take the same amount of time and effort as well.
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>>182636551
>I'm guessing getting into pso2es' end game would take the same amount of time and effort as well.
It takes much longer and extreceptor farming is less money for the time spent compared to just playing the main game. You also make jack shit for money outside of EQs.
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>>182636551
You won't get up to current content on es within a month unless you whale hard.
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Is it wrong to fap to your own character?
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>>182493114

PvP is busted as fuck anyway. Even in the LAN tournament thing they did, swords could still lag guard through everything and fuck your face with rising from a mile away
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wtb active es friends
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>>182638367
It's a sign of a good character in fact. If you can get off to it that's what matters most
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Hey friends, does unlocking Hero requires you to have 3 titles respectively or does it require you to level 3 classes to 75 on 1 character?
One more question, does Bo count as a tech class? And if not whats the best way to get a tech class to level 75?
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>>182638856
Mother about to get some dicking?
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>>182638856
titles
so you can have the classes be on different characters, as long as you have all three titles all the characters on your account will gain access to hero
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>>182638856
I cant remember a time where sega had some sort of requirement (to unlock something) and it didnt require a title
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>>182639337
I don't think Fi/Gu/Te required a title, did they? Just level 30 in Hu/Ra/Fo
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>>182639223
No
>>182639328
Thanks, just need to level a tech class on 1 of my dudes to 75 then.
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>>182639337
I guess technically all the free fields/ARKS Quests are unlocked either by story or CO
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>that moment you stop at the visiphone waiting for the EQ
>3 people behind you away enough to not have access to it

I know you're checking me out
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Is there a guide or resource for what the best unit set ups are?

I feel like I've been given completely different information a dozen times over and every build I see on the same class is wildly different.
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>>182640850
>I feel like I've been given completely different information a dozen times over and every build I see on the same class is wildly different.
Welcome to pso2g where everyone here is a sad sack that makes themselves feel better by shitposting and trolling people

In terms of answering your question, no not really. Units are pretty self explanatory nowadays since 12* units have their stats baked directly onto the unit and set bonuses don't matter any more. You should get acquainted with navigating swiki with google translate if you want to play this game for any extended length of time, you can find all the unit info there.
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>>182640850
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16h9-PFBvnZi4mul7vlglLqvFGTElBRegIC6K1Dr86_g/edit#gid=1329180253
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>>182640797
yeah, checking out how fugly you are
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>>182641165
but anon, you don't even know who I am
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>Tree god fight, XH pub
>Think I'm doing pretty good
>Glance at the parser in the end
How in the fuck.
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>>182643090
open session logs and check how many maron that guy threw
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>multiple bow users in the MPA
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>wait for someone to use a trigger after Yamato
>it's always old!Yamato with no 14*s
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How many hours till psostation starts?
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>>182642027
100% cute though
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grind exp that goes past a cap just goes straight to oblivion, right?
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>>182644104
Yep, you get nothing.
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>>182644104
If it's not at +35, it doesn't quite go into the void. For example, if you're leveling something to 30 you can get it 99% of the way to 31 even if the cap isn't unlocked.
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>>182644104
you get class cubes for it lol
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>>182644357
But everything beyond that 99% does go nowhere, right?
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>>182644504
Correct
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>>182625831
>max HP Up on force skill tree
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>>182644784
Seems like a pretty newbie mistake

>Oh shit I'm a casting class I guess I should mitigate my squishiness somehow
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>>182644864
Only fighter gets to be invulnerable
>Fighter is tanking too much, let's increase damage
>Fighter is still ok or just stacks more hp, the ranged classes are the only ones who suffer
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>>182645095
Either way you just don't take HP Up skills in your tree
>>
is it good time to install game
how big is the size these days
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>>182645906
Yes. There huge event like boost week (exp and such for 24/7 for 1 week). You can pretty much geared during that time to enjoy and access other content.

Also, 50gb~ game filesize. Just be sure you update directx.
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>>182646180
When is this boost week?
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>>182646318
7/19 ~ 7/26
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>>182646318
7/19, after maintenance (JST). Boost Week is from 7/19 to 7/26.
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>>182638367
I fap to all my female characters, so most definitely not. >>182638683 more or less nailed it.

>>182643090
Where do you start your parse, because to me it looks like you included the mobbing phase where one maron can do like 5-6 million damage alone.
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>>182646986
It's a 16 minute parse so I assume he left it on for mobbing. The only other explanation is that the entire MPA besides the summoners were shit so they had plenty of time to charge Marons. The MPA is pretty shit either way but this probably includes mobbing.
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Am I playing Gunner wrong if it feels really weak and shitty? I only ever feel like I'm doing anything useful with chain trigger, and mobbing just makes me want to kill myself
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>>182643825
Would you rather I use an OG necky trigger where things didn't melt in half a second?
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>>182647134
No, that's just what Gunner feels like. Mobbing isn't so bad as long as a Zondeel is around but no class exactly struggles in that situation. Gu is still a good class on encounters it gets to chain well and often. Sega really doesn't give a shit about balance. They have zero qualms with making a class a mobbing/bossing only class that needs to work harder and gear harder and then just make other classes gods at everything for less effort.
>>
Any pussyflaps here want to do Gracia, ship 4
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>>182647331
I would but I'm doing multiship first rip
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>>182647251
So I guess I should just switch to fighter then=
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>>182647427
>i do but i dont
Don't talk to me ever again
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>>182647331
>>182647474
post gear+class
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>>182647226
Yes.
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So gunning doesn't work like monster hunter?
That's pretty disapointing
>>
>>182647734
well too bad, i'm on ship 4 and i know nobody would join for it anyway, which is why i haven't used it up until this point either.
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Can we just get a point chain trigger ring already that makes CT and normal attacks hit where you lock on?
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>>182647650
110units, qliphad daggers and knuckles. your average FiHu.
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>>182647134
Use satellite aim more and craft your Infinite Fire. Those two normally hit pretty hard and fast on weakpoints like heads if you jump first.

For mobbing use shift period. It hits weakpoints in a pretty wide radius for little effort. If it still feels weak well, that's about as good as it gets.
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>>182647885
do you not just carry any pub you're in instead with that? Average fihu i see now has izane with like 70 attack and 165hp/unit.
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>>182647960
I just want to play with some of you fags
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>>182647904
I already have IF0, but DA->SA->IF0 still feels like I'm doing a fraction of what fighters are doing. Even compared to bravers' sakura 0 it doesn't feel that impressive.
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>>182647960
Not him but I run 130 astral izane and the clear times when I run on Fi vs other classes are consistently longer. Good luck doing that now though, elegant powers weren't even 20m yet when I did this.
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>>182647464
>he thinks it's easy gearing/OP damage when playing as fighter
>"muh meme gears to stay alive"

Don't fall to Fighter meme. Stay at non-nerf class you have atm (especially Gunner. Gunner main isn't nerf).

For mobbing, just use SB or Heel Stab. Only mindless Fi shitters will convinced someone using strong class to switch to a little (((conditionally strong))))) class.
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>>182470903
Whatever lobby actions or accessories you want, then use the rest to stock up on donuts. Unless you're a summoner in which case look into some of the parfaits. Maxing out your favorite 2016 weapon is useful for leveling subs on account of them being 13 and all class, but takes a LOT of grinding. You decide if it's worth it. You'll need 400 anniversary badges for each copy of the weapon, and 6 copies total. So you'll need 2400 badges if you're starting from scratch.
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>>182647816
I'd at least like chain to build regardless of where you hit the thing
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>>182648168
>>182647960
I phrased that wrong. My Fighter clear times are much faster than everything else. I play all the melee, bow braver (not anymore in ep5 probably) and gunner.
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>>182643391
This was a day or two ago so I sadly don't have access to the logs anymore.

>>182646986
Yeah this was at the very beginning which would explain a lot. I knew something was fucky about those maron numbers but I don't know anything about summoner. Thanks anon.
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As a sword hunter, what PA should I be using against Deus ESCA while he is not moving in order to deal the most damage in the quickest amount of time? Spam guilty break?
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>>182648049
are you joining other people's parties or setting up party makers? party members build up your chain, as stupid of an idea as that is
>>182648265
>Gunner main isn't nerf
we don't know if it's a nerf or a buff. for example, they could reduce the cooldown by 10, reduce chain damage by quarter, and increase chain finish by just a paltry 10%, making gunner worse than right now. or, they could reduce the cooldown by 30, chain damage by a half, and chain finish by +125%, making smaller chains a whole lot better. it literally depends entirely on the actual numbers

judging by the fact that they aren't also nerfing chain f bonus, i have very little faith that this change will be a buff, and that the cooldown buff will be minimal. or maybe i'm wrong and they kept it that way so chain has 100% uptime, which i hope is the case because i like gunner
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>>182649025
Never spam unless it's Ignite Parry (but then mixing Stun Coincide in between is preferable). Basically I do Guilty Break -> Ride Slasher rotation most often sometimes switching GB with Rising Edge. If you're low on PP and the core isn't moving away in less than 5 second use TAJA'd Over End.
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>>182648265
Why are people pretending that Sega wouldn't leave Fighter the way it is? It wouldn't be the first time Sega left a single class far better than the rest for months.
>Fighter is only a conditionally strong class
Yeah if the condition is selecting fighter, spending more than 10m on your units and putting Limit Break on palette. Sounds like a fair enough condition to do far more damage than other classes.
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>be melee
>pa drink isnt affected by premium
>fo cucked to premium for 5% damage
>do more damage than them
Feels gr8 man
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>>182649280
I have a feeling melee players won't be laughing so much when noble powers are 30m+. If you want to gloat over being buffed while ranged is being destroyed go ahead, just don't expect any sympathy.
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>>182648013
Calling us fags? how rude.
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Sword should maintain sacrifice bite buff when switching to other weapons and back.
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Reminder that if your gear doesn't have elegants you're a literal shitter.
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>>182649581
Sword should maintain sacrifice bite when tanking the floor due to iron will not proccing.
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>>182649584
my units have elegant stamina, my cliffard weapons will have noble attack.
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>>182649581
Sword players should switch to a better class. Fuck off
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>>182649627
>spoiler
A double shitter.
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>tfw just bought a dozen shifta boots for 400k each
>stinky fighters will buy them for 2m in a week
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>>182647331
If you haven't done gracia yet I'll do it with you anon. If you have, nevermind.
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>>182650005
>all the people that will transfer to fi are fo and ra
>mfw have 2 elegants from the dozens i bought during boost week and all my shit is affixed
>new fi are going to have to pay 80m for elegants and 10m for boots etc
I laff
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>>182650248
Finished a while ago, ain't waiting nobody cuh
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>>182650378
curses, now who will carry me?
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>>182650460
Me
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>JB Bo, Sword Hu and Te for Gracia MPA
>almost time out
Reminder class balance is completely irrelevant because all relevant content is party content. You can just carry every MPA with Fi. I hope you didn't want to play any other classes yourself though.
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>Timed out on XH Gracia
How. Why. I don't think we even made it to the last 10% mark. I've never seen this happen before.
>Someone's max hit is their normal attack
Oh, that's why.
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>>182649617
>>182649673
Did a sword user piss in your cereal this morning or something?
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>>182650805
>that poor bow braver stuck in XH blocks
His class is being destroyed in 2 weeks, he shouldn't have to put up with this.
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>>182650805
bow br is so shit, it cant even carry 11 people
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>>182650807
They piss me off just by existing. Every single one is a leech and should play a real class. At least play katana br.
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>>182650805
Ship2 is a sad place, and they nerfed his hp too.
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>>182650927
Not sure if sarcasm but it will be shit soon if they severely nerf its damage
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>>182650805
That's deus, not gracia. gracia is 4 man version.

>>182650517
You didn't say who you were so I ended up getting carried by a tesu.
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>>182651548
We already know it's going to be severely nerfed because none of the buffed PAs will help. Banish and SB-0 both getting power nerfs/PP usage increased, it's a wrap. Bow isn't going to be ok because torrential arrow costs less PP. I've already sperged out about this once, just go to my other post if you want to know why I think bow is dead >>181475925
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>>182650805
kinda hurts to see. that br bow deserves better treatment :^) like being nerfed twice at ep5
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I want every class I play buffed and every class I don't play nerfed
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>>182649673
They're switching to Hero in two weeks
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>>182651782
>That's deus, not gracia
They're both deus

Deus Esca Zephyros
Deus Esca Gracia
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>>182648786
Unless you specifically go through the effort of deleting the logs, it should be in the parse folder
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>>182625050
Remake Blue Burst and episode 1-2 but with the combat of PSO2. Make it a semi-mmo like the old pso's were.
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Yeah yamato is not exactly kind when it comes to units with its factor but chances of the rematch dropping high slot ones is plausible right?
i mean i seem to get most of my 5+ slot stuff out of gracia rather than normal deus
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>>182653868
Yeah, if you suck my cock good enuff
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>>182654249
Who you
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>>182653412
>but with the combat of PSO2
PSO1 gameplay was infinitely better than 2's.
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>>182654303
Nostalgia can be pretty retarded.
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>>182639328
Oh holy shit. This changes everything then. Im already hero ready because I got a hunter char, a force char and a gunner char to 75. Glad you came around and posted this before leveling a bunch of off mag classes.
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>>182654303
As much as I like PSO, the combat back then is fucking grabage compared to what we have now
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>>182653090
Oh huh, good to know. It looks like he did Maron Strike 17 times if you're still wondering.
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>>182654352
>>182654437
Slower paced doesn't mean bad.
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>>182654486
I agree, but now it's shit nonetheless.
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>>182654768
>>182654768
>>182654768
>>182654768
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>>182654486
No, bad means bad
opening the main menu just so you aren't slowed down by targeting enemies isn't clever, it's bad design
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>>182654303
It gets real old real fast. If you wanted classic combat you could legit just download psoBB for free right now.
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