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Welcome to the Sonic General. Here we talk about all things Sonic! Share art and music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, and more.

/sthg/ #814 - Buddy Edition.

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Sonic News<
Sonic Mania vids:
6 Minutes of Gameplay : http://youtu.be/uB9RP2SV8HY
Green Hill Boss : http://youtu.be/X1GZbQgtGLY
Chemical Plant : http://youtu.be/4TX2I3iUORQ
http://youtu.be/52UGIIIp9WE
Pre-order Trailer: http://youtu.be/wvD8NZN9Zsg

Sonic Forces vids:
Sonic Forces E3 trailer:
https://youtu.be/dprxYd_16Ck
7 minutes of Gameplay: http://youtu.be/fyTzm8WgtlE
Full level Gameplay: http://youtu.be/6g6_rRqjlCI
Avatar Gameplay: http://youtu.be/TJZfptketUc
>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>General Interest Links<
/sthg/ - Level Development Kit:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw9wQojS0lxpbXpxRWZiOFNWSHM/view

[NEW] Birthday Bash Zone
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw9wQojS0lxpamZnSzItcURDUFE/view?usp=sharing

Sonic Time Twisted
https://overboundstudio.com/index.php?action=game_page&id=1

Bump in Sonic 1 v0.1 + Source Code
http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/x5kpc8IZ/file.html
http://www10.zippyshare.com/v/Vh05gC9s/file.html

Green Hill Paradise Act 2
https://mega.nz/#!bdtByBRB!QENQpUU2fzjYSs79s0Y0lR5Zx1Tt5CI6v3f-buPsUo4

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom-season-2
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>>181775176
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>>181775384
But Egg Fleet is easily the best level in the entire game.
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A date to DIE for!
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Buddy is sad. Say something nice to him, /sthg/!
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>>181775794
NERRRRRRRRRRRD
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>>181775532
>Didn't two devs get extremely ill overworking during X-treme's development.
Yeah, Sega has a serious problem with overworking their employees, especially on Sonic Team. My friend is telling me one of them nearly died of Pneumonia and had to restart the game twice. They even tried to use the NiGHTS engine and then Naka said GET FUCKED.
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>>181775371
Yeah, it shows that Sonic Heroes is an awesome game crafted with lots of love and labor.
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Takashi "Who cares if Shadow swears?" Iizuka
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>>181776313
Does green girl count as an animal?
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>>181775561
I would do horrible unspeakably gay things to Buddy if i ever got my hands on him.
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Some Harmonica anon from earlier remind me to ask, how does one get or make a musical transcript/sheet?
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>>181776310
Why does he look so weird?
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>>181775698
>awesome music that can't be heard because of the constant rail grinding noise
>tons of areas that require you to beat every robot to continue
>goes on for too damn long
>good atmosphere that you can't take in because you spend most of your time in small enclosed areas beating robots to continue
>too focused on beating robots instead of platforming

this is not the best level in the game
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>>181776402
I'll lick his glasses clean if they're dirty. For him of course
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>>181775794
Please cease to exist.

>>181776391
Don't matter since I'm still callin' dibs.
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>>181776313
Claiming best girl!
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>>181776313
Sticks.
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New episode of Sonic Unleashed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdFq8ezm_x4
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>>181776507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vak7Lv1fMVw
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>>181776831
Fuck off.
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>>181776313
I wanna be tied down and have Merlina shove her staff right up my toot-hole
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>>181776831
I like Best Friends Play better.

And I miss Liam.
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>>181776894
Lol butthurt.
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>>181777102
>>>/reddit/
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>>181776568
You really gonna be "that guy?"
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>>181776831
Why do they sound stoned? I thought this was kids show?
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>>181777393
It's aimed at teens and manchildren not kids.
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>>181775794
Sonic believes in you, Buddy.
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>>181777540
Kids do anyways. Poor things will grow up to have shit taste.
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>>181776831
Shill somewhere else
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>>181777769
Yeah you're right anon Dan and Arin totally paid me to post that.
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>>181777893
Either way, post that shit somewhere else
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Top 10 video game bromances
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>>181776894
>>181777313
>>181777769
>>181778041
Are y'all really gonna cry over game grumps?
Kek.
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>>181778870
Thinking GG is garbage =/= crying, my man
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>>181778870
figures walrus faggot likes gamedumps.
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>>181778870
>types y'all unironically
>likes game grumps
Come on, Rotorfag, you're better than this.
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This is Classic Sonic. Say something nice to him
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>>181779470
Fatty Ratty
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>>181779470
Forces would be a better game without you.
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>>181779470
You knew how to physics
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>>181779470
Always the cutest Sonic.
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>>181779470
You're cute.
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>>181776424
I'm a complete beginner to music theory and instruments in general but there's three ways that I know of to to get sheet music for video game music:
1) Figure it out by ear and use a program to make the sheet music. I imagine this isn't too hard if you've been playing for a long time but for someone like me this isn't possible
2) Look for covers on Youtube. Sometimes people post their sheet music. Alternatively, check out musescore or another sheet music site
3) Go on vgmusic.com and find a MIDI for the song you want, open it in some kind of MIDI editor, isolate the instrument that you want to learn, and generate the sheet notation for that. I'm sure I'm getting a lot of the terminology wrong in my explanation but this method almost always gives me what I need. It's tedious but it gets results. You're screwed if no one made a MIDI for the song you want though. I'm having this problem with Empire City's music from Sonic Unleashed

I'm sure there are much better ways to do this but again I'm a novice to music theory so this is just what I know

>>181735587
try what I wrote above. I'm also learning to play the harmonica and that's what I do to get my tabs. HarpTabs is really lacking in video game tabs so you usually have to make them yourself. Harmony Assistant on OSX works decently well for generating tabs from MIDIs. It does diatonic, chromatic, and some of the other different harps. You can also adjust the pitch of the music which is useful since harmonicas have limited ranges compared to other instruments and can't play certain notes. The interface looks like it's from 1998 but it still works. I think it's on Windows too but I'm pretty sure there are much better programs for this. HA is one of the only options on OSX so it's all I know
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Pic related is how we should be handling Sonic's speed.
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>>181779875
Thank you so much for your input, anon. I wanted to give attention to that user but I was also curious myself.
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>>181780095
Never played Spyro. How does his charge work?
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>>181779657
>>181779705
STOP CALLING ME CUTE
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>>181777356
What, that hates buddy? I'm not the only one.
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>>181780195
Base analog movement is a much slower trot meant for platforming. Charging propels him forward automatically.
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>>181780276
You're such a cutie.
I want to pet you and make you purr.
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>>181780276
You're a cutie that I want to snuggle in bed like a plushie.
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>>181780393
I too like to look up her skirt.
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>>181780605
Why? I don't think there are any Chaos Emeralds there.
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>>181780310
No, you stole my girl, bro. Not cool.
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>tfw you're the only one that liked the insta-shield from Sonic 3 and it won't be returning in Mania
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>>181781002
They gotta draw you in for the sequels somehow, anon.
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>>181780406
We already had that. It was the 'run' function in Lost World. And it fucking sucked.

Hell, arguably we have that now with the boost mechanic.
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needs more mascot deer

also HOLY FUCK LESS THAN 3 WEEKS FOR /STHG/'S THIRD FUCKING BIRTHDAY
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>>181781372
spyros charge is much better to control than sonic's boost

also maybe lost world could've worked but the level design didn't do much to show off the running in 3D.
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>>181781256
>Mania sequels
h-haha, yea..
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>>181781002
As a kid I literally never used the insta-shield because I thought it was dogshit. It was only fairly recently I was playing through it again and I realized that it was totally fucking awesome. The insta-shield and elemental shield gave Sonic so many options in S3&K, god damn, holy shit what a good game. Does anyone else in here like S3&K???
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>>181781002
Pretty sure everyone liked the insta-shield. I'm also sad that it won't be returning, specially since the drop dash doesn't look like it'll require the same amount of skill as the insta-shield to be used or be as thrilling as the insta-shield was.
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>>181781372
>We already had that. It was the 'run' function in Lost World. And it fucking sucked.
That's...what? That's not what the run button does, you retard. The run button in LW was like in Mario. You hold it WHILE you move. It doesn't automatically propel you. Even if it did, Sonic's base movement is way too slow, and so is his run speed. The run speed was so slow there was literally no reason you'd want to not run in the first place. Spyro wasn't like that, there were multiple situations where it wasn't wise to charge especially since you could hit your head on walls.
>Hell, arguably we have that now with the boost mechanic.
True but it makes you invulnerable and Sonic still moves like a tank down linear corridors. Sonic also instantly goes to top speed, where in reality he should slooowly reach top speed like an accelerator.
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>>181781002
I thought everyone liked the insta-shield. That junk was wicked tight once you got the timing down
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>>181781635
What're you talking about? There's plenty of stages to reuse.

>>181781659
Same here, although I never went to go back to use it properly.

>>181780908
2slow, and I already did it last time too.
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>>181781976
Seriously, I had no idea someone actually disliked it.
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>>181782118
>What're you talking about? There's plenty of stages to reuse.

I'm assuming that they don't believe that Mania is going to have a sequel because they have doubt that the creators have a plan of doing a second/third/etc rather than the amount of content, anon.
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>>181782351
I only disliked it as a kid because I was stupid and thought I should be using it defensively because, y'know, it's the insta-*shield*. And while it does have some application for shielding projectiles and shit the far better option is to use it offensively.
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I know being optimistic at all ever is stupid but I have hope Mania will sell so well and somehow be reviewed well enough that they have no choice but to let them make a sequel. I have no doubt in my mind Taxman/Stealth/PW could make another Mania, there are plenty of classic levels to remake, or better yet they could make an entirely original game. I mean is there any reason to think they couldn't or wouldn't want to? The only issue is will SEGA let them.
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I FINALLY GOT ALL 7 EMERALDS WITH SONIC IN ADVANCE 2, FUCK YES!

>>181782725
In all honesty, I can totally see a Mania 2 happening. After all, what better way to make the Sonic fanbase happy than by making games for the 2D & 3D fans, thus making more money?
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>>181781549
I'm kind of sad that nobody thought to ask Toby to draw Bump
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There's so many people that really think that there's going to be a Mania II. For some reason, I just don't feel like it's going to happen or that it's necessary.

>>181783013
Congrats, anon.
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>>181783298
I was being sarcastic, and even if we did get a Mania 2 Iizuka would fuck it up somehow.
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>>181783263
Holy fuck how didn't I think of this before.
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>>181783298
if it's popular and well received well see


there's also potential for the revived 2D game series

make a game that doesn't have recreations of old zones/bosses
try and use HD sprites
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>>181783298
I want Mania to be a fully-fledged side-series for two reasons:

1) We haven't had a 2D side-series ever since Sega stopped giving a shit about Dimps and relegated them to "shitty bargain bin portable version of console game" duty
2) It'll hopefully finally clue Iizuka into the fact that we want actual proper classic gameplay for real and not just slapping old badnick designs and checker-pattern dirt onto bland generic 2D platformers like Sonic 4 and Classic Generations/Forces were/will be.
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>>181783454
My bad, anon. But I was considering about others who may be serious about it. Can't say how they would, but to me, the game wouldn't feel as special if there's a direct sequel; however..

>>181783757
It'd be interesting to see a brand new/continuation with 2D series as well. It's a good point. I just want to see "experimentation" (as in, not reusing levels for example).

>>181784070
I haven't thought about Dimps in awhile. It'd be nice to see handheld games every now and then again without it being a port of a major game.
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I hope Mania bombs hard.
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>>181784563
I hope Mania doesn't bomb hard.
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>>181784563
keep hoping' kid cos' it ain't gonna happen.
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If Team Dark isn't cooler and better than Team Sonic, why are they the hard mode?
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0/10 busted game
before anyone starts shit, im joking
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>>181784280
Legitimately, a game adaptation of Mega Drive would be the best idea for a hypothetical Mania 2.

>new levels already thought of
>new badniks and bosses already thought of
>possible partner mechanic already thought of
>package the collector's edition with a trade paperback of the comic issues
>already have a double dose of positive press from both Mega Drive and Mania itself
Enough new and experimental to keep things interesting while also keeping to the classic-style gameplay and designs, and most of the initial design phase is already done which would cut down on the time and budget to make it. It'd be a slam dunk instant hit.
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>>181776831
I hope they shit all over it like they did Boom.
Fuck that game.
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>>181784887
Exactly. Team Dark is for pros. If you don't like them, you are probably a scrub.
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>>181784563
Even if something catastrophically bad happened to Mania, like what happened to Boom, people would still love it. They would cry over it's disfigured corpse instead of pissing on the burning remains. It would still win awards.
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>>181785447
are they?
iirc, only their levels were changed to be hard
they as a team dont behave much differently to the others
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>>181785173
When you say this, do you mean every single level from Sonic 1-3&K are put together and recreated?
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Redpill me on 3D Blast.
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>>181785693
They're not even that much harder, really. The stages are just longer.
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>>181785760
I mean the comic.
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>>181785845
Their stages are the same length as Team Sonic's.
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>>181785843
k
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>>181785842
screwy controls and forced retrieval missions
not much else to say about it
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>>181785913
I was thinking about the system, my bad.
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>>181785843
Fuck everyone, these are cute NPCs.
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>>181784887
Because darkness is suffering. Not better.
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>>181785842
It's a fun little side game that's basically "what if Sonic was Marble Madness?" I like it but I'm not going to pretend it's the greatest thing ever. Go into it with low expectations and you might like it too.
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>>181785842
It's based on a game older than Sonic, Flicky. I've always felt like 3D Blast was probably supposed to star a blue bird, but then someone decided it should just be Sonic instead.
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>>181785842
Boring as hell special stages.
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>>181786281
Doesn't this mean Flicky is a Sonic spin-off game just like Tails Adventure?
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>>181785842
Have you ever played Flicky?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ejnYn7OZxo

It's this, but in isometric 3D with Sonic instead of a Flicky protagonist. It handles awkwardly at first but you can get used to it. Personally I think the best version is the Saturn version which you can easily emulate. PC version I believe is the same but with a shittier special stage. The Genesis version is the same with worse graphics, a laughable special stage, and a different soundtrack than the Saturn and PC ports. They're both good for different reasons.

Overall it's a short little time waster. Nothing spectacular but it's alright for what it is.
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>>181785843
I had a fuzzy feeling when I saw one of the NPC's in Unleashed have my (nick)name
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>>181785842
A slow and clunky abomination.
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Would Knuckles be able to defeat Donkey Kong in a fight?
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>>181786385
It's definitely a precursor to 3D Blast, so yes.
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>>181786457
my favorite thing to do in games that have dozens of named NPCs like unleashed is find the one that has my name. I memorized the trainers in Pokemon GSC, RSE, DPP, and FRLG that have my name and always make sure to fight them when I replay the games
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>>181786825
Not according to Death Battle and I don't see anyone doing any better in terms of research, so no.
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>>181786825
>sapient echidna that can punch the invincibility off of a super-powered hedgehog fueled by literal chaos energy.
>gorilla with coconut gun
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>>181786938
That's impressive, anon. I couldn't do that because my name isn't common. Seems like it'd be fun to do though.
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>>181786948
>Trusting Screw Attack
>Ever
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>>181785937
I could have sworn there was at least a few stages that had sections no other team had tacked onto them. Maybe the level layouts were different to make them take longer on average?
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>>181782725
http://nintendoeverything.com/sega-will-be-looking-at-the-reception-of-sonic-mania-to-determine-the-direction-of-the-series/
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>>181787079
Did you see that time Dong punched the moon out of orbit?
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>>181787327
I want a 2D Sonic with graphics like Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap
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hey look it's that same classic sonic pose from the first sonic forces trailer
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>>181787963
right down to the hand/finger placement. This really is generations 2
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>>181787327

These are the possible futures I hope to see if Mania does well:
1. Sonic Team immediately looks at what made Mania so well-received and incorporates elements such as physics and sloped terrain into future Modern titles
2. Sonic Team leaves 3D to the wayside for a little while, letting a "Neo-Classic" age begin, which will eventually usher in a "Neo-Modern" age, that takes 3D Sonic in that new, physics-based direction

More likely, however, Mania doing well will just tell Sonic Team the completely wrong message:
>Well! Looks like we've been doing it all wrong! People only want Classic Sonic. Time for a re-brand! We will only make exclusively Green Hill Zone-packed nostalgia trips from now on.
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>>181787963
....Has Sega tried sonic with sports yet?
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>>181788221
Well he's in the Olympics.
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>>181788221
Besides Olympics, yes. But there's very minor games and I heard there a time that they were going to make something football/soccer related (according to a picture) but they dropped the concept.
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>>181788221
Well there's riders.
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>>181788221
Wasn't there a golf game?
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>>181787079
IF HE SHOOTS YA

IT'S GONNA HURT
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>>181788221
There's the Olympics in the Mario & Sonic series, and there's also Sega Superstars Tennis. Sonic & Sega All-Stars Soccer was in development by Sumo Digital, though it was cancelled by Sega for unknown reasons.
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>>181788407
Yes.
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>>181788221
There's Sega Superstars Tennis, I guess, if you want to count that.

It was okay.
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>>181788613
How can you be a real Sonic fan if you haven't played Sonic Fishing?
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>>181788613
>>181788748
mfw I will never be able to gamble with Sonic and his pals in Sonic's Casino Poker
mfw I will never be able to fish, bowl, golf, play tennis nor billiards with Sonic and his pals.
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>>181788613
>Mobile games from the early 00's.
Good god they must have been awful.
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>>181788173
>More likely, however, Mania doing well will just tell Sonic Team the completely wrong message:
>>Well! Looks like we've been doing it all wrong! People only want Classic Sonic. Time for a re-brand! We will only make exclusively Green Hill Zone-packed nostalgia trips from now on.
This is what's going to happen and we all know it. Look at what's happening with Forces. There was an interview with Iizuka and he basically said that everything that's in Forces is there because it was in a game that did well (minus Red Guy from Lost World, I think Iizuka just wants to shove his alien creations in as many games as he can). He specifically said Classic Sonic is back because he was in Generations and Generations did well (despite Classic Sonic's physics being odd and his levels not being as grandiose as Modern Sonic's). Chaos and Shadow are back because Adventure 1 and 2 sold amazingly well. Metal Sonic is back because Sonic CD scored well. Instead of looking at what made these games great/sell well, they just took random things from said games and threw them into Forces.

Sega just doesn't get it. I hope that if Mania does well, everyone who worked on it talk some sense into Iizuka and Sega and tell them *why* it did well. It's not a good game because it's Classic Sonic. It's good because of the level design, physics, and general atmosphere and experience. You can't just put Classic Sonic in a game along with some basic uninspired 2D platforming and expect it to be great.
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>>181789050
At least there's Sonic Athletics...
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How'd I miss Iizuka's statement that Sonic Mania would have the most stages of any classic game? Even if S3&K aren't counted as one game, Sonic 2 had 11 stages so we'd be getting 12 stages at the least and 15 at the most.

I don't want to get my hopes up but if they somehow put in the work for at least 20 quality stages I'd lose my mind
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>>181788221
It might just be the two hours I just spent playing Rocket League but a Sonic-themed soccer game sounds fucking legit.
>fields with sloping terrain and obstacles to navigate around
>roll down slopes to gain speed
>use the kick from Sonic Lost World to send the ball flying forward, or roll/spindash into it to shoot it into the air
>big cast of characters with different stats and special moves, like SEGA All-Stars
>South America loves soccer, perfect for beach, jungle, and ruins-themed fields and playable Tikal
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>>181789292
I've seen Sonic air hockey too.
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>>181789403
>Sonic Soccer
You know, that might actually be possible with the HedgePhysics engine with a little tweaking.
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>>181789509
Why not use GHPAnon's engine? Sounds like a fun project.
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>>181789242
Sega gets it, they just don't give a fuck. Sonic has always been something that doesn't have to be perfect to sell.
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>>181789661
That's what I'm talking about. I just wasn't sure what to call it. I suppose "The Dev Kit." I haven't seen multiplayer implemented in there, though. Mechanically it seems doable. Just make the ball a homing-attackable enemy and give it bouncy physics.
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>>181787327
>>181788173
It's important to note that Sonic Team only ever abandoned the Adventure formula because 06 was such a massive bomb, while Rush at the same time did extremely well commercially and critically. Think whatever you want about the boost formula, but not only are those games well-received but they still sell well. Sonic Team isn't stupid enough to throw the boost formula away, unless Forces bombs as hard as 06 did, or even near it, which is very unlikely.

Here's what I think will happen: Mania will succeed, critically AND commercially. PagodaWest, Headcannon and Taxman will all merge into one developer, and start a new line of 2D Classic-style titles, essentially becoming the new Dimps. At the same time, Modern Sonic's design will be dropped entirely or at the very least he'll be redesigned to look even more like his classic self. (IE green eyes are black again) Sonic Team will continue with a line of boost-type titles, but with less edge and less story. There's no telling what they might do with the actual boost mechanics, but I highly doubt they'll make games like Utopia.
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>>181789414
Oh yeah, I remember those too.

Although I suppose that, along with Athletics and other games, are not quite video games so I don't know if they really count the more I think about it.
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>>181789242
You're hoping that Iizuka, Sonic Team, and Sega will listen to whatever some gaijin baka game hackers have to say.
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>>181790286
I still don't see what point there would be to drop modern or redesign him to look classic. Modern Sonic is prime for nostalgia shilling right now.
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>>181790286
>>181790685
Modern Sonic will be redesigned to be more like his Adventure model in proportions. Boost will take a temporary hiatus so they can cash in on Adventure nostalgia in two years.
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>>181775561
Did someone change the OP's intro at some point?
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>>181790916
>nike smile returns

oh fuck pls no.
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>>181790916
game reviewers and internet celebrities told me I'm not allowed to like sonic adventure so I doubt sega is going to do anything with the games either
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>>181790286
>Sonic Team throwing away the Modern design & taking the story back to the Colors days
Doubtful unless as you say, Forces bombs as bad as 06. IIRC, it was said that they want the Modern stories to be more like the Adventure games again, so there's no real reason to drop the stuff they're bringing back in Forces after just bringing them back.

If anything, I could see Classic in Forces being panned while Modern's gameplay is seen as the best part of the game & Mania being a critical success, leading to SEGA keeping the Boost formula & Modern design for the 3D games, while leaving Taxman/Stealth/PW to make more 2D styled classic games.
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>>181787327
>tfw you get the feeling everything is going to go to shit
>tfw every thing that happens convinces you more and more of it
It is not a good feel.
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>>181790553
The only thing they are sure to listen to are numbers. It's how they interpret those numbers that will shape how Sonic will go next. We have Whitehead: the head of what is likely going to be a highly-rated Sonic game and Izuka: the head of what is likely going to be a moderately-rated Sonic game.

If the numbers show that Mania did better then SEGA will hopefully reconsider who the head of Sonic Team should really be. Of course, that would be the case if this were a Western company. This is Japan we're talking about. They would rather go bankrupt than admit that a Westerner does Sonic better than an honorabuuruu Nihonjin.
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>>181790286
You're an idiot. Mania will fail commercially because no one gives a fuck about 2D Sonic other than a couple deluded easily impressionable piece of shit nostalgia faggots. The game is a lazy piece of shit and is nothing special. More than half of the game is nothing but rehashed levels, that's fucking pathetic and boring. Your average normie wouldn't buy it, I guarantee you this. Even if is a Sonic game. 2D Sonic just isn't all that interesting. You idiots glorify it because again, you are easily impressionable, have god awful taste and are deluded as fuck. Mania is most likely gonna be one-off thing. Modern Sonic's design is more iconic than Classics. To think it'll ever be dropped, or thinking it'll be changed to look like Classic, shows just how much of a deluded piece of shit you are. You're not very bright.
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@181791727
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>Team Sonic are the only playable characters at absolute most
>Eggman is the only villain again
>No story
>2D sections plaguing every single level
>Shadow, Team Chaotix and everyone else that makes this franchise interesting and worth anything are relegated to being quick boss fights with 5 voiced lines at best, or just not appearing at all

Truly the darkest timeline. I didn't get into Sonic for garbage like this.
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>>181791727
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>>181791727
T. Adventurecuck
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>>181791727
Ow, be careful with that Edge. I don't know, was that ducktales remake actually successful? e-celebs loved to jerk to it, but did anyone actually give a fuck?
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>>181791932
>>Shadow, Team Chaotix and everyone else that makes this franchise shit are relegated to being quick boss fights with 5 voiced lines at best, or just not appearing at all
>No Story
>Eggman is the only villain again
>Implying these aren't good things
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Both Forces and Mania will be the two best selling Sonic games since at least Colors simply because they're on every major platform. The only questions are how successful, how well Mania's sales compare to Forces', and how Sonic Team/Sega will interpret those sales.
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>>181792001
Don't. I like the Adventure games & that bait was just lazy.

Also, while I can understand it I think some people here are being a bit too pessimistic about Sonic's future. Between Forces & Mania, we're getting a Sonic game with a more interesting story than the likes of Colors/Gens/LW, 1 true 2D-style Classic game, the Boost formula looking superior to the last time it was used & Sonic's friends seems to be doing more than what they have in the last decade. Personally speaking, while they're still making mistakes (Classic in 3D, Sonic's friends remaining NPCs, GHZ rehash, etc.), I'm surprised with some of the shit we're getting with both games.

They have a long way to go, but I do think SEGA & Sonic Team are trying more now than they were during the days of say, Generations & Lost World.
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Would you say the Grounders in Aquatic Ruin Zone are bad game design?
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Not another day,no more confusion!
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It boggles my mind that Sonic Team let Boom happen, and Mania happen. Westerners should never, ever, never touch my precious Sonikku
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>>181792687
>Sonic 2 was developed in America
>Sonic Adventure 2 was developed in America
>implying Sonic Mania is a bad thing.
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>>181791887
>>181792604
>all they can do is call my post bait, can't even prove me wrong or provide a counter-argument.
Is this what it looks like when you take evil by the balls and put it in its place? It truly is never as hard it seems
>>181792001
T. Adventure patrician**
Classics are overrated
Modern games past 2010 fucking suck balls
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The only problem I really see with Boost as a concept is that it makes the level designers put more time into making the levels visually long instead of setting up actual platforming challenges. What do you guys think? How could they improve the boost formula to make actual levels and not just long hallways with 2D being the only real platforming bit?

For me, Sonic Team should learn to transfer the 2D sections into 3D, at least with their design philosophy. They have a lot of routes going on during the 2D sections (obviously due to the fact that they're 100x easier to set up), so they should just transfer those ideas into 3D to make the game feel a slight bit less linear.
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>>181792970
>T. Adventure patrician**
>Adventurecucks are THIS deluded into thinking their shitty games are good that they'll shit on everything else and think that "M-MUH MODERN SONIC" is actually relevant"
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>>181792607
At points, yes. I played Sonic 2 yesterday all the way through with my buddy and the placement of the Gounders in there were questionable. Other issues I have with the zone is that the arrows blend into the background a bit, making avoiding them difficult as well as the placement of the Whisp enemies in some parts were obnoxious.
All-in-all, I believe that Aquatic Ruin has one of the best level themes and music in the game, but suffers due to these issues.
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>>181792930
What's your point retard? They were still made by honorary Japanese people dumbass
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>>181793018
I would like to see a Sonic game where Boost is gained through keeping your momentum & building up speed. Not sure if that's something I could make in the Devkit, tho.
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>>181793162
We don't need any more squint-eyed pieces of shit making Sonic games. Sonic is 100% American and should stay that way, no faggy anime nip nong ching chong.
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>>181793395
>I would like to see a Sonic game where Boost is gained through keeping your momentum & building up speed
It's called Sonic Advance 2, my neger.
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>>181793456
I know, I'm talking about doing something like that in 3D.
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You think you have the answers?
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>>181793162
Doesn't change the American development location, you dense fuck. Americans still get involved in many Sonic games you fucking weeb.
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>>181792687
Iizuka said he was heavily involved with Sonic Boom actually. He was "in direct correspondence with the devs constantly." Despite this, it took weeks for the devs to get answers to their questions from SoJ and didn't even know they were developing for the Wii U until many months in. It was just as much of Japanese fuckup as it was an American one
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>>181793451
>Says that will posting Sally.
>Literally from the bottom of the barrel of burger trash Sonic fanfiction.
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>>181793593
I'll laugh & watch you fall
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>>181793162
I've heard some memes that they only really listen to jap audiences too. whatever happens in the rest of the world doesn't matter. doubt there's a large retro crowd in japan for mania. They're all sanic X fags.
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>>181793529
Green Hill Paradise - Act 2 does just that, but if you wanted to do it within the Devkit I would suggest learning a bit of C# and making a script that basically does this:
If Sonic reaches a high enough speed that exceeds his usual grounded, flat maximum speed
Then raise Sonic's current max speed to a higher point, adding in additional particles, trail renderers and motion blur.

Also, hi guys, how goes it? Looks like some neat shitposting going on. Good.
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>>181793924
Oh hai, GHPAnon! Funny enough, I tried to play GHP Act 2 since I enjoyed the Birthday Bash stage, but my computer began freaking out & I had to close the game.
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>>181793924
GHPAnon, didn't you make this? I remember you had other (admittedly bad) Sonic fangames on your channel too.
https://youtu.be/xe1S3Fn7V1g
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Sometimes I get worried about the end of the world. I start thinking about my death and I get scared. I don't want to die. There's nothing after death. I want to be immortal. I don't want to not exist. I want to always be here. But then I think about this general and realize immortality would be a chore. It's the same cycle of bullshit everyday. Same shitty bait. Same reactions. Same shitposts.

I used to think the ending to Sonic and the Black Knight was a cop out but now that I think about it, yeah, Sonic's right. A world that goes on forever would be boring. I can barely handle this general during the news hiatuses. I don't think I could handle an eternity of this.

Thanks for solving my existential crisis Sonic.
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>>181794352
Anon you do realize that even if everyone was immortal, this general is still likely to die someday right?
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Here he comes, you guys ready?
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>>181794579
Rougher than the rest of them?
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>>181794206
Sorry it broke on ya. I hope you get it working soon.
>>181794271
>Dimensions
Oh my god. This takes me back. You have no idea.
>This editing
>2D
>These physics
>These animations
My god. I've changed so much and yet not nearly as much as I thought.
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>>181794352
Yup, we always think our time is the most important era. but really, it's the same shit today, as yesterday, and eternity.

>>181794575
We're all going to meet up in hell someday complain about no new news.
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>>181793451
I know this is bait but you're still a fucking retard. Sonic is a Japanese product made by Japanese people. This is like calling DBZ 100% American. You're only doing so to fit your own personal agenda. You're a fucking idiot. If this wasn't a conversation through a fucking Cambodian basket weaving forum and one irl, I'd be fucking you up bad rn. Piece of dog shit nigger bastard keyboard warrior
>>181793697
Again, what's your point you fucking thickheaded, subhuman dense retarded bastard? They were still made by Japanese people, what the fuck does the location matter? IT WAS MADE BY JAPANESE AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU PIECE OF SHIT, GET THAT THROUGH YOUR DENSE FUCKING SKULL. I know you have a pea-sized brain, but this is pathetic.
>>181793759
So the only retards that want a retro styled Sanic are the westerners. You're all fucking stupid. I'm smarter and better than all of you.
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>>181794989
>I know it's bait
>BUT I'M STILL GOING TO *autistic screeching*
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You find some interesting comments on YouTube...I'm not the biggest Sonamy admittedly, although it can be cute at times, but geez. The fan brats aren't better though.
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>>181794752
Makes me wonder why you can't get HedgePhysics to work a 2D plane.
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>>181793018
Keep boost in 2D only. Don't bother trying to make 3D segments out of it because it never works. Stick to the Rush formula in terms of gameplay. The reason why boost works better in 2D is because it's actually much easier to see around you, whereas in 3D you can only see ahead of you. That severely limits how much vertical and lateral movement you can put into the level design, which turns boost into massive linear corridors in 3D.
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I'm surprised Eggman didn't fuck with Dark Gaia again, that's the only foe Sonic legitimately didn't defeat, he was a destruction through and through so Chip could do his thing.

please don't do the press x 60 yo block the big beam and shoryuken the boss again sega, it looked cool but it was such a pain to play no matter how good the music was for the scene.
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>>181795226
*fan
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>>181794989
>this post
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>>181795119
I know, right? The best way to deal with bait is to have fun with it, not act like it's serious.

>>181795226
Shippers are nuts, what else is new?
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>>181795038
Was this the last time Sonic drove his own plane?
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>>181795270
>the "it never works" meme
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>>181795119
I'M surrounded by faggotry. Or rather dog shit idiots who don't know their place and talk out their fucking ass about MY favorite franchise. You can all eat my shit.
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>>181794752
I think my PC is too shitty for GHP act II. It does the same for a lot of stages in Sonic World too. Although for some reason, the test stage for the devkit runs fine.
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>>181795226
>Sonic almost kills Amy twice
What
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>>181795505
I've explained exactly why it doesn't work, shithead. And I'm not even saying it doesn't work in 3D period, but the amount of effort it takes to make it work in 3D is far beyond the amount of effort it takes to make anything else work, so there's no point doing it when they could keep boost to 2D and introduce a better 3D gameplay style that doesn't involve massive budget-consuming linear corridors.
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>>181795228
I'm sure it's possible to do so, but I don't really see the point. We already have a perfectly good 2D engine in the form of Sonic Worlds. Were you hoping to do some 3D to 2.5D transitions? If so, you may want to look into how Splines are implemented in Unity and how they could be integrated into the existing engine.

>>181795581
The test level is also very small compared to GHP. That's not too surprising. You do need a pretty beefy PC to run GHP.
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>>181795526
>WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'm RIGHT AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG STOP DISAGREEING WITH ME WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>181795598
In Riders, Eggman had Amy in his hands & Sonic knocked the Doctor into the air causing both him & Amy to "nearly die." Granted, Amy landed on her feet seconds later & the whole scene was played for laughs, but I guess it still counts for some reason.

>>181795858
I think he's just fucking around now, anon.
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>>181795689
Or just not have 3D and keep it 2D. Sonic works better there anyways. Maybe Sonic needs to regress a bit more until Sonic Team either figures out a way to make it work or just realize it will never work period
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>>181795475
Does SASRT count?
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>>181795858
>he thinks anything but the Adventure era games should be the way the series should move forwards
O I am laffin
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>>181795942
>I think he's just fucking around now, anon

He's fucking around real good tho.
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>>181776313
Ghost blowjob please.
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>>181796004
See >>181795858
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>>181796004
Chill
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>>181795953
Stop piggybacking off my posts to justify your obvious shitposting.
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>>181796004
SA1 was forward. SA2 shit the bed and continued the cancerous linearity untill what we have now.
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>>181796170
Honestly, I think Sonic should become very nonlinear. Something like the Zelda DLC in Lost World would be perfect for Sonic going forward
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Giving myself a quick draw challenge. Hit me with a simple request!
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>>181796580
How about Sonic and Hatsune Miku doing a high five?
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>>181791887
I've wanted to make a picture like this for some time, thank you for this.
>@
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>>181796580
Modern & Classic Sonic bullying Buddy
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>>181796170
>>181796289
Kys retards. There's nothing wrong with linear level design. The Zelda DLC fucking sucked btw. Because walking around aimlessly with no goal whatsoever in a unfocused map doing jack-fucking-shit is perfect! Yeah! Fucking idiot
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>>181796704
Better than literal hallways with nothing interesting going on
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>>181796704
>>181796289
>>181795953
>>181796806
Quit forgetting your periods at the very end, it's your calling card.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6nzlUVXk34

Explain
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>>181796806
If you think it isn't interesting, you're a deluded idiot. Non-linear doesn't automatically equal good either. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You are an idiot
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>>181796580
I thought "simple" said as much, but maybe I should have added "preferably one character".
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>>181793451
God please no. Americans can't make video games for shit. Do you really want Sonic turned into a sassy black woman with an afro?
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>>181796954
>Everyone who doesn't think like I do is a deluded idiot. Only I know what's good
Do you have any self awareness or are you 12? It seems like the latter.
>>181796978
T. Weeb. Go back to your fucking loli simulators
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>>181796580
Draw Sonic reading a Sonic comic
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>>181795226
Amy is his girlfriend. He just doesn't want to admit it.
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>>181796580
Draw Eggman wearing a Sonic costume
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>>181795740
I mean what if I want to do an entirely 2.5D game? Like Sonic Fan Remix?
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>>181796954
>>181797087
You're both idiots, now kiss already

>>181797137
t. Amy
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>>181796580
Draw Sonic jumping over Razor the Shark.
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>>181796580
Knuckles chilling out or taking a snooze while on M.E. guard duty.
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>>181797212
Interesting. Well, I can tell you right now that making the fixed camera angle can be done easily using the Camera Trigger objects. The trick will be actually getting Sonic to stay put on a 2.5D plane. This is where Splines come in. I would research how you can get a Spline system integrated with the current engine. Perhaps head to the Discord and see what they have to say over there. Good luck!
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>>181797267
I think he meant actual Sonic characters not deviant art tier OC.
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>>181797087
>Everyone who doesn't think like I do is a deluded idiot. Only I know what's good
Yeah sounds about right. I love it absolute retards try to take pseudo-intellectual standpoints and think they're right because of that. I see through your bullshit. I won't allow you talk blasphemy just for you to go "it's m-muh opinion"
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>>181796806
I'm in narrow hallways runnin' like it's a ballgame!
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>>181797642
Sonic himself is a deviantart tier OC.
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Just end the Sonic franchise and set me free.
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>>181797654
>I'm right because I say I'm right. My opinions are fact because I say so.
Are you 10?
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Why are there idiots shitposting at 1:07 am?
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>>181797846
When I'm 40 plus will I still be thinking, "I hope this one's good!"
If I don't have kids by then there is no hope.
Would you let your kids play Sonic? Or would you be afraid they'd turn out to be autistic furfags who post on /sthg/?
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>>181797916
People are dumb enough to keep replying.
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>>181797916
Who cares, just ignore that shit.
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>>181797916
>>181798024
>>181798106
HAHAHAHAHA TO IGNORE MY POSTS IS TO IGNORE THE TRUTH, FUCK 2D, FUCK CLASSIC SANIC FUCK MODERN SANIC ADVENTURE IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YViYAfxxawE
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>>181797916
i blame yurop
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>>181781549
Less than 3 weeks for /sthg/'s final birthday
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>>181798587
>Rogue the bat
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>>181798587
>Rogue
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If you think that you're right about how Sonic should work you have a better way to prove it besides just name-calling and pepe-posting. You have multiple open-source game engines at your disposal to put your opinions to the test.
If you're not willing to put the work in to properly and practically demonstrate why you think that your ideal Sonic formula is the best then your opinion really is just baseless chatter.

Of course, that's just my opinion.
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>>181798983
I'm fucking sick of all this bullshit about "what Sonic should be" anyway. Fans should instead be asking themselves what Sonic CAN be.
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>>181796580
shadow finds this general and tries to put a bullet through some anon's head while Sonic gets angry and tells him to cut it out
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>>181798983
>Making & contributing something to the Sonic fanbase, while showcasing my idea as to what I would like to see out of the series
Ha! Who would ever do that?
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>>181799150
>Fans should instead be asking themselves what Sonic CAN be.
I like your attitude, kid. Well fucking said.
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>>181799150
Ideally that would be a good attitude, the problem is more what Sonic Team realistically can be.
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>>181798983
So if you can't show your opinion visually then you don't matter? Very nice elitism.
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>>181798983
Fuck off, that's so stupid. I'm not gonna make my own fucking game to prove that the fully 3D, Adventure game play is the best. It just is.
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>>181799286
Sonic can become a human AND a tranny?
My dreams have come true!
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>>181799557
I think the point is that you'll prove your point better by showing, instead of telling.
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>>181799596
>literally treating your opinion as fact
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>>181798983
That's really too much effort. I fucking created this franchise, it should align to my world. You're all fucking invaders, get. the. fuck. out.
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>>181799820
Prove you made Sonic.
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>>181799557
It's called nut up or shut up.
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>>181799814
>Posts a fucking Boom pic
>Thinks his opinion has any validation whatsoever
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>>181799820
>I fucking created this franchise
Solipsist babby detected.
Don't worry kid, eventually you'll realize it's not everyone else that doesn't matter, it's you that doesn't matter.
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>>181799921
You couldn't possibly understand, no one here could. My vision expands so far beyond the perceived walls of this franchise. I was Sonic before it was cool to be Sonic. There is no light at the end of the tunnel for you guys. lost, you're all fucking lost.
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>>181798983
I know this isn't the point you wanted to make with this, but it seems a bit similar to what some people tell movie critics: "I'd like to see you make a better movie."
Hell, maybe even the average gamer that points out flaws in certain games coming across the same statement. Sometimes people don't need to be experts in the field (or create what they're criticizing for that matter) in order to point out the flaws in things they love and hate.

But I guess this case is a little bit different because people don't need to be coders to make what they want because they have the option to use the Dev Kit.
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>>181800178
The difference with movie critics is they're judging the actual quality of the movie itself. Same with food critics and most game critics. They don't say "THIS is how this movie should be! Why didn't they just do THIS?"
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>>181799932
It's called "your opinion is worthless unless you make a fangame to show it", cunt.
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>>181800390
He didn't say your opinion is worthless instead of making a fangame. He's saying that your argument would be better if you showed what about your idea of what you wanna see out of Sonic could work. You don't have to make one, but your argument would hold better
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>>181800178
>people don't need to be experts in the field (or create what they're criticizing for that matter) in order to point out the flaws
Of course not, as long as you come at it with a level head and examine the pros and cons.
But as soon as someone reaches that level of complaining about how everything is trash and only they know what is best, you want them to either shut the fuck up or show us how its done.
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Sup guys.
Yuji Naka here.
Ask me anything.
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>>181799557
>>181799596
>>181800390
I'm just saying that, in my opinion, if you really want to understand your favorite Sonic gameplay style at a conceptual level then you need to study it and get your hands dirty. Just playing it and saying "Yeah, this one's the best." just isn't enough.
If you're passionate enough to yell at someone on the internet at 1:30 in the morning about why you think your favorite gameplay style is the best then perhaps you might be passionate enough to put your rings where your mouth is and make a playable prototype to make your case. It's up to you whether, or not you're willing to take the plunge. If not, then that's okay.
Just know that you have the power to make your opinions so much more powerful than just words.

>>181800178
This is a valid point. You cannot apply this "Don't like it? Do it yourself." logic to everything. That's silly. But here, I know firsthand that a passionate enough Sonic fan can accomplish some crazy feats if they're driven enough to prove their point and I'm not just talking about myself. Mr. Lange and his team, Taxman and Stealth and countless other developers and ROM hackers do what they do out of passion and drive.
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>>181800817
How do you feel about most people ITT never having played Rodea the Sky Soldier? And most likely even fewer having played the Wii version, the way it was intended to be played?
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>>181800817
What's the most complex English sentence you can muster up about the rat?
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>>181800887
Understanding and being capable of putting into physical form are such different things that I can't believe you were so stupid as to say it's the proper way to go about things.
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>>181800817
Why in the icy blue hell did you greenlight Shadow The Hedgehog?
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>>181801157
To this day I'm really surprised that people still question the existence of the game when the fanbase at the time were screaming for both a game centered around Shadow and a game involving weapons. What they flubbed was the execution (should've been less edgederp and more Ratchet & Clank).
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>>181801157
Kids REALLY wanted a Sonic game with guns. Like REALLY BAD. Since Sonic wasn't the type of guy to hold a gun, they had Shadow do it.
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>>181801112
You say that s if putting your ideas in physical form in the devkit is hard or something. Literally anyone can do it, since it takes no knowledge of coding or game making to make a stage in it. Hell, I'm in the middle of making one & I know jack shit about making games
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>>181801463
>b-but
You're making excuses for some elitist trying to give a greenlight to invalidating any opinion that has no presentable form. In the end that makes him no better than any other shithead tripfag on this website.
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>>181801591
He flat out said it's okay if you don't want too make your own stage. He just said that if you're passionate enough to argue about it this late at night, there's nothing wrong with trying to prove your point.
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>>181801308
ShTH could've had edge, it could've had guns, it could've even had swearing. But if they were going to have a moral duality system and guns they should've made it a GTA or Jak 2-style open-world game, not try to force it into Sonic's usual linear gameplay.
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>>181801796
No, he said that if you aren't willing to put it into presentable form then it's just worthless chatter.
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>>181801591
He's not invalidating your opinion, you stupid fuck. He's just making a point that every single goddamn thread starts this shitty argument over what gameplay is best, as if any of them are shit to begin with. After 800 fucking threads it's gotten really, really old, and instead of yelling back and forth like this, he's decided to give us the tools to make our own games instead of shitting up threads until the end of time.
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What if CW/HCG/PWG made a successor to Sonic Mania and it was a metroidvania?
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>>181801867
>It's up to you whether, or not you're willing to take the plunge. If not, then that's okay.
Just know that you have the power to make your opinions so much more powerful than just words.
Anon, stop acting like nobody in /sthg/ can read posts
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>>181801591
It's disgusting that we let tripfags into this general. He needs to either take off the name or fuck off, preferably the latter
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>>181802094
Well, that won't happen. What are you gonna do about it?
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>>181801925
Sonic + Metroidvania sounds fucking stupid
Tails Adventure 2 on the other hand
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>>181802094
Quick, get the pitchforks!
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>>181802094
You are trying way too fucking hard to fit in with the "4chan culture". YOU fuck off and lurk moar, and understand when tripfags are acceptable.
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>>181801112
>>181801591
I'm honestly, sincerely just trying to encourage a community of shitposters to possibly become a community of creators and artists. Yes, conceptualizing and making a Sonic level can be difficult, especially if you've never even considered doing something like that before, but I believe that if you're passionate enough about this stupid, blue rat to be here arguing at 2 in the morning then you have the passion to make something spectacular.
Sonic fans have a unique drive that's so hard to comprehend that most people just pass it off as "autism" and leave it at that. I believe that you, yes you, can channel this into a creative force that can accomplish amazing things.

>>181801867
I did say that and I will freely admit that my harsh wording was in part due to my frustration with these sorts of ceaseless arguments. >>181801918
Articulated my frustrations pretty well, I think.

>>181801925
Didn't the Before/After the sequel guy do something like that at one point? From what I remember it worked pretty well so I'd be down for that, totally.
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>>181799286
>That pic.
Fast La Fast?
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>>181802207
Sonic + Metroidvania could work if the level design stayed true to the physics engine. A more open-ended seamless game world wouldn't be out of touch.
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>>181801994
That is literally him preemptively covering his own ass. What I got out of his garbage bin of a post was that if you don't take action then your opinion is worthless while implying that his opinion on how Sonic should be is worth more because he made a fangame. And this isn't the only time. He's one of the many autists that will nitpick ST and fucking shit their pants over shit like a boostpad in front of a loop and claim it's the death of Sonic, and yes he's done that exact thing before.
>>181802252
He certainly isn't acceptable when he's using to wave his e-dick around. Just look at how many dicksuckers came to caress his ass because I called him out on his passive superiority and opinion invalidation horseshit.
>>181802305
Watch what you say if you're going to wear the trip and not deliver anything. There are too many fucking morons here that will kneel to you because you made a thing.
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>>181802305
Shitposters are gonna shitpost, I doubt they'll read this as encouragement to make something. They probably don't even want to do it in the first place. And, sad to say, nothing is really going to stop them.
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>>181802393
He's complained about boost pad in front of loop & people disagreed. I disagreed too. Doesn't really mean anything in the end, because opinions are just opinions & not worth getting angry over.
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@181802393
>There are too many fucking morons here that will kneel to you because you made a thing.
Gee, it's almost as if contributing greatly to the community deserves respect from said community.
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>>181802548
He's just going to keep shitposting into oblivion.
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>>181802601
I don't even get what that anon is trying to accomplish by getting angry over people liking someone who provides content for this place.
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>>181802374
That already exists.
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>>181802761
That doesn't play anything like Sonic though. You can very easily make a Sonic Metroidvania in Sonic Worlds and not change a thing about the physics.
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>>181802760
by shitposting at* I meant to type
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>>181802525
Yeah, I know. I just got fed up with all the negativity and arguing over which sanic is the best sanic, you know? It's frustrating.
>>181802548
You disagree with me about the boostpad?? Get out of my /sthg/. Don't you know who you're talking to? I'm the creator of Green Hill Paradise!
Reeeeeeee
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>>181802579
That means jack shit.
>>181802601
People like you certainly make me want to start.
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>>181802393
I see the glimpse of the point you're trying to make. It's what I said before >>181800178. Though the way you do it is definitely more aggressive.
However, I also see the point he's trying to make. What he's saying is that people should give it a shot and try to create what they want from Sonic, as idealistic the thought that people would do it may be.
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@181802919
I urge you to seek help because you're obviously a sociopath who doesn't understand respect.
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>>181802236
>pitchforks
No need to be primitive anon, we must get the chainsaws!
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>>181802923
Him trying to get people more active is great but it has nothing to do with opinions or their weight.
>>181803026
>not having respect for someone who CHOSE to come here and do this means I'm a sociopath
This is 4chan. I don't care who you are. What you say has just as much weight as everyone else and who you are is irrelevant. Don't like it? Take a hike to reddit or neogaf if you want to jerk someone off.
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>>181803090
>chainsaws
>Not setting your enemies on fire
Baby
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>>181803090
Let's get those and a whole pack a' robots!
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>>181803090
As long as you pay for the gas.

>>181803184
>not using flaming chainsaws
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@181803146
Whether we're on 4chan or not is irrelevant. You are still acting like a sociopath.
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>>181803204
>>181803215
>Not creating a raygun that turns those who've wronged you into dust
You don't belong this general.
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>>181803090
Fuck it, just launch the nukes. Wait for those who survived to become mutants, then bring in [weapon of your choice] to the slayground.
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>>181803259
You clearly don't know what a sociopath is, retard. The word you're looking for is "asshole".
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>>181803259
>@
Okay, I appreciate the support n' all, but what the hell is this wizardry?
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>>181803416
It's (You) denial.
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>>181803416
It's pettiness at it's finest.
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>>181803393
Perhaps, but the fact that he doesn't understand why anyone would praise anybody for doing something they like is a red flag for being a crazy person.
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Can I get some webms of Mania, I'm trying to sell it to a friend who is curious. I hate to be a requestfag but Jewgle isn't giving me shit.
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>>181803416
It's a way to reply to posts without giving them a (You). Kinda petty, but some posters on 4chan really care about seeing (You) in their posts.
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>>181803574
Not here, buddy. There is no reason to put one person above another.
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>>181803457
>>181803617
Oooh. I didn't know it was a game. That's pretty neat'o. How do I play, my fellow 4Channers? Seriously, though. People actually care that much?

>>181803591
I've got just the ones for ya.
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>>181803718
>People really care about that stuff?
Yep. IIRC, a few months back (You)'s were removed for a day or two & there was constant threads on the q & a board demanding them to be brought back.
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>>181803591
Then, here's one of the new Bubble Shield in action. This is to demonstrate that Mania's physics will not only be as good as the original Genesis games, but the might just be better.
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>>181803718
Thanks m8.
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What are some of the worst romhacks?
I mean the absolute worst.
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>>181803836
I suppose there is a psychological element to it that I can understand, but not to the point of turning it into some kind of metagame. Yeesh.
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>>181803850
My stomach is getting fluttery from looking at this. Won't be long now boys.
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>>181803836
They should just integrate the red lines next to a post you get on 4chanX
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>>181804015
That's actually what they replaced the (You)'s with, funny enough.
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@181803712
That's where you're wrong, fucko. Again, don't act like you know 4chan's culture, because that's not what the Anonymous thing is for.
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>>181804058
Should've stuck with it.
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>>181803952
I don't know if they're objectively bad but the stupid meme hacks like Crazy Sonic just piss me off.
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>>181804072
Okay, you can stop with the @s.
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>>181804072
Except I will because I do. You clearly don't.
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>>181804147
i raise you sonic green snake.
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>>181804191
Trips exist for a reason, you dumbass.
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>>181804292
And not for the reason you think they do, buddy.
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>>181804342
They exist for the exact thing GHPAnon is doing. Also, I'm not that anon.
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>>181804393
Wrong. They existed originally for single thread usage. Now they're used like neogaf accounts.
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>>181804550
And guess who actively encouraged that? Moot. So get off your high horse.
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>>181805165
moot was and still is a faggot so I don't get what your point is.
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moot didn't use his trip on every post
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We should troll r/sonic with something. tractor time or something.
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Anybody who trips for no good reason is and always will be a faggot.
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>>181805916
Thankfully, everyone who tripfags here provides something. Outside of the occasional shitposters who are gone within a day.
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what a night, amiright guys?
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>>181806185
. Another night of "posters on 4chan shitposts with idiots taking bait & people getting angry over nothing."
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>>181805916
Except GHPAnon has never tripped for no good reason.
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>>181806765
To be fair, that post might have been referring to people who don't provide something, yet still tripfags. Either way, this whole argument is just stupid & has gone on much longer than it needed to
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>>181806765
Except for whenever he spouts off his opinions and everyone here licks it up like it's the gospel truth.
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>>181807063
Did you miss the part where people have disagreed with him? People can agree & disagree on people on anything. It doesn't really mean much.
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>>181807063
Oh the humanity. Someone agrees with someone else's opinions. Clearly these threads are better when we all hate each other.
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>>181807154
Let's go back to the glory days, then. FUCK YOU ANON, REEEEEE
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>>181807274
The only thing that keeps this place from becoming just another furry dumping ground is that porn isn't allowed, thank goodness.
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>>181807274
>Over a year since that day
>This year's event was the exact opposite.
Was hoping to watch episodes of the shows and the OVA with /sthg/ again.
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>>181807274
We've gotta pretty good tri force of hate going. Dead comics, classicfag hate, modernfag hate. There's nothing left to love.
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So was Heroes Shadow actually a robot?
Maybe Forces Shadow is actually the robot.
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>>181807963
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>>181807963
No, the true ending of Shadow the Hedgehog has a throwaway line about how he is the real Shadow.

Most people missed it, but it should be well known by now that Shadow is the real one from SA2. I doubt they're ever bringing back Shadow robots
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>>181808076
Maybe the Shadow in Shadow was a different Shadow than Heroes.
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>>181808217
can't be
team dark reunites in 06
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>>181807960
Yes there is.
Sonic is still here and loved by all in some way.
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>>181808217
Don't make this more complicated than it is.
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>>181807274
You know, if it wasn't for people posting/falling for tettible bait, this general would be pretty great. You have comicfags, gamefags, toonfags, & all sorts of different type of Sonic fans in one general creating shit out of our love for Sonic, discussing our favorite/least favorite things about the franchise & when no one's shitposting or falling for shitposts, it's honestly my favorite place to talk about the blue rat.

Stop being retarded, /sthg/. Don't fall for bait..
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>>181808217
The only reason Shadow is asking about who he is at the start of the game is because of the ending of Heroes.

Also what >>181808327 said, he knows all of the side characters, and works with Team Dark still. Eggman specifically says he took Shadows body after it fell in SA2, and used him as the prototype for the androids.
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lost world is the best 3D sonic
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>>181807960
We can love each other :')
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>>181808379
What if people talk about things I don't like, but I don't really have any discussion to contribute on any other subject? I should just shit on them right?
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Good thread lads.
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I wish Sonic was faster.
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>>181808454
>What unpopular opinion can I hold to show my superior obscure tastes today!?
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>>181809886
But how fast?
Give me an approximation in mph.
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>>181810213
How fast is the Flash? He needs to be faster than him.
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>>181810279
the flash is as fast as the plot demands
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>>181797132
This wasn't quick.
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>>181810725
>Last one, huh?
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>>181810725
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>>181810725
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>>181810725
I hope you realize his left hand is a right hand.
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>>181810725
Thank you, anon!
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>>181779470
Worst Sonic
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>>181810213
I remember calculating Archie Sonic hitting over Mach 10 during LIMIT?!
Not much faster you can make him without having it hit absurd territory.
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So...

The Dark Brotherhood...

I tried to play it about a year ago, maybe two. I made it as far as central city and gave up. Story didn't hook me, writing seemed bland, the RPG game elements themselves didn't seem fun. It was a huge disappointment. I also found it was too hard early on, and that I might need to grind to progress?

But I can't seem to shake the feeling that if I stuck with it, I could have eventually enjoyed it.

So break it to me /sthg/, does it actually get good, or is it really as big of a disappointment as I often see it called?
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>>181811726
No prob, Anon.

>>181811638
What are you---
>Took the reference pic with the wrong hand.
AH SHYTE.
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>>181814305
You don't have the balls.
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>>181814348
Bet.
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>>181814348
It's 5am. He might.
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>>181813056
I enjoyed it, though I did play it muted most of the time. It was more the story and little character interactions that motivated me to get by the grinding. Just so you know it does end with a cliffhanger.
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>>181814305
>people keep posting this image with no text
what did he mean by this?
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>>181815046
>being this new
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I'm bored.
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>>181815768
Me too.
Wanna be gay together?
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>>181815829
>>181815768
stop
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>>181815829
No thanks, I'd rather just stick with my cats
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>>181815954
O-ok.... ;_;
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>>181816076
You should get a cat and/or dog for yourself
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>>181816182
>not instead hoarding sonic plushies and random soft cushions which don't require looking after unlike animals
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>>181816182
I do have a dog and a cat.
>>181816228
You can't get knotted by a plushie.
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CEASE THIS DISCUSSION AT ONCE
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You see what happens when we don't discuss the sonic games or extended lore like the comics? The furries come out of the woodwork.
I warned yall.
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If Sonic saw you zoofags posting in his thread he'd cry.
Think about that.
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>>181817501
It's too early for this. Pls stop
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>>181817668
>tails is top
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>>181776313
Ruined by Lost World. Elise, please. Only character with actual character
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>>181817780
I wanna bully this little shit
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>>181776402
>buddy is quickly becoming my favourite character
>I'm unironically starting to find him cute
>part of me wants a buddy plushie to be made
why must my tastes be so trash
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>>181817890
You've likely also had a friendly chat with me on a different general/board and just never knew
:^)
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>>181818005
At least you're self aware that your tastes are trash, thats the first step to remedying them. Have you tried, say, not being gay?
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>>181818005
I would unironically buy a Buddy plushie and cuddle with it.
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>>181818005
>>181818278
Buddy will never get a plushie. He's just a design.
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>>181818359
Don't remind me anon. We can dream.
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>>181818359
It's not that hard to make your own custom plushie.
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>>181818770
>needing to actually having talent with practical things and high motivation
slight problem there anon.
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>>181787079
Did that Red Nigga punched a Moon?

Thought so.
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>>181776831 >>181776894 >>181776913 >>181777393 >>181777769 >>181785182 >>181778993 >>181779112 >>181779203 >>181778870
Did Game Grumps '06 begin the Sonic revival?
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>>181818359
It's not likely but I wouldn't completely rule it out. The generic placeholder OC for Xenoverse got a figure.
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>>181819351
If GE still had the Sonic merch license, I would think it's possible considering they made plushes of characters that didn't have much like Blaze, The Chaotix, Chaos, but I dunno if Tomy would.
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Is CD not considered a mainline game?
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>>181819598
It should be.
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>>181819598
It is
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>>181819598
CD is being represented in the game, so I thought maybe this was just a representation of the timeline, that the game takes place after 3&K, but before CD has actually happened. I heard that Stardust Speedway was being created in Mania with this in mind too, but I could be wrong though.
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>>181791727
Truth
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>>181819960
I always thought CD took place between 1 and 2.
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>>181820202
>sonic
>timeline/canon

Pffffff
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>>181820202
It did happen between 1&2.
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>>181819598
Because you should not confuse the mememasters who'll write articles about how Sonic is so much better in 2D even though they never played even one title.
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Just don't Reply to bait
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>>181810871
You know what that means! Time to start mass buying the comics and reprints if the originals are too pricey.
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Y'know. Lately I've been wondering...why didn't they just make Tails take the place of Buddy? Sure it'll be a bit out of place to give him his own levels while being sandwiched between two sanics, but looking at the way buddy plays, it's a combination of Tail's free-roam platforming in Adventure and Shoot gameplay in Adventure 2. The Wispons would also be a cool tie-inn considering his past interactions with the wisps, plus let;s be honest, Tails was Sonic's buddy before Buddy was a thing. They could have at least added a Fox option to the customization so I could attempt to recreate him, but Bark it is, I guess.
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>>181820767
>Implying having a CaC in a Sonic game isn't the epitome of Austism
Say what you will about Shadow, but at least he's an official character.
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>>181820767
>>181820767
>>181820767
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>>181820858
>tails sandwiched between two sonics
OwO
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>>181803850
>Those physics
My dick can only get so erect, August get here already please.
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>>181820767
All three of them should be screeching autisicaly and holding trash cans.
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>>181820858
>why didn't they just make Tails take the place of Buddy?
Because they wanted to add an OC maker.
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>>181821332
But what's the point. IIzuka himself said they neutered the OC maker so you can't make something as detailed as say, Shadow, Silver, Blaze, etc? There aren't even any Fox or Echidna options despite the fact that they want to make bank. The OC maker came a decade too late, cause I see more people laughing at/ironically liking it rather than genuine interest in it as compared to Mania's reception.
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>>181821073
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>>181820858
>why not Tails instead of Buddy
Fuck Tails
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>>181822385
>Fuck Tails
You don't have to tell me twice.
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>>181819462
Buddy is going to be a playable character in a mainline Sonic game, which is the first time someone other than Sonic and Sonic has been playable since Sonic 06. That by itself will guarantee him merch.
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>>181822385
>>181822459
I sometimes wonder why I come to this damn site for Sonic discussion.
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>>181823368
There is a shitposter here who wants to fuck Rotor, what the fuck did you expect.
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>>181808379
I've been saying that for q long time.
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>>181804321
I'd like to get my hands on that thing but I bet if it's sold on eBay it'd be like $5,000 or some shit.

>>181807896
I'd like to do spoilers with you, anon.

>>181819462
I thought GE already made Blaze, Chaotix, Chaos, etc. Were they actually bootlegs?

>>181797916
I was going to ask why is it "dead" by the time 11 PM (EST) comes around and I wake up early in the morning, there's 350 comments and most of it is people arguing/shitposting.

>>181798015
I would if I had any and if they'd want to. I just hope that my kid(s?) wouldn't become degenerates like me(?)

>>181823368
What do you want to discuss about, anon?
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>>181825182
>I'd like to get my hands on that thing but I bet if it's sold on eBay it'd be like $5,000 or some shit.
If it really is the first Sonic plush, I would hope SEGA or Ohshima would keep it. It's pretty important to Sonic's history, since the character was pitched to higher ups using the plush.

>I thought GE already made Blaze, Chaotix, Chaos, etc. Were they actually bootlegs?
They were official. GE just no longer has the toy license, so they won't be making anymore Sonic merch.
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>>181817895
Elise is best girl, you hardcore faggot.
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If those figma fellows ever made a Team Dark set I would sell my house to buy it. Not that I'd need to, but I would anyway.
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>>181825520
>I would hope SEGA or Ohshima would keep it. It's pretty important to Sonic's history
It'd be for the best.

Shit, I misread some words in your initial >>181819462 statement. I'm sorry, anon.
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>>181825871
I suppose it'd be for the best when you mention it that way**
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>>181825643
Sonic characters are bit too noodly for figma. You're better off praying for a nendoroid set. Are there any companies still making Sonic action figures or is Jazwares kill?
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>>181825624
This is what I'm saying.
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>>181826079
Jazware is done. TOMY is getting front row seats.

"Headline News This just in!

BAD NEWS: GE Entertainment is LOSING the Sonic license in April 2017. If you want their really nice looking plushes buy them NOW anywhere you can. They made tons of rare characters including Chaos 0, Charmy & Espio. Prices are going to go way up when the license ends. See & buy them all here before they are gone: GE Sonic Plushes

Sonic Boom Tomy toys are starting to appear in discount overstock retailers in the USA like Marshalls, Ross, & TJMaxx for big markdowns!

BEWARE of FAKE SONIC AMIIBO figures - ONLY Sonic is official - any other Sonic character is NOT a real Amiibo = don't buy it.
Jazwares LOSES SONIC LICENSE: NO MORE JW TOYS - Any pending JW toy news is now cancelled. No new toy or plush will be released by JW. Info by PatMac & Sonic Stadium"

>>181826079
More Nendoroids would be nice desu.
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>>181825871
S'alright, anon. We all misread every now and again
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>>181825624
>common core kids are now old enough to post on 4chan
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>>181825182
>What do you want to discuss about, anon?
Well, potential ways to improve Forces, I want that game to be just as good as Mania. From the looks of it, the Customization options aren't looking so hot despite it looking like the highlight of the game, and my worst fear about is intentionally cut content packaged into DLC. I also hope Modern and Buddy have more open areas in later levels to make the most of the 3D gameplay while the 2D sections are toned down to make Classic Sonic stand out.
I'm feeling a little uneasy when it comes to the story, they said it was going to be Adventure style, so I hope they mean wacky, over-the-top, but still serious to some degree. Buddy's gameplay sometimes seems lacking in flow especially the lightning whip. Compare that to something like Gamma who'll walk and roll and shoot with ease. Music is a little weak as well.
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>>181826079
>>181826304
I wouldn't buy a nendoroid set. They look quite awful in my opinion.

The reason I named figma specficially isn't because I care about the articulation but because of how on-model they usually are. I enjoy that. I'm sure they could make a fantastic looking Team Dark set with or without articulation but it's never going to be more than a dream.
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>>181787327
>think mania looks amazing
>but really want fully 3d sonic that isn't shit

Please be good Forces. PLEASE.
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>>181826408
Go back to lusting after Cream the Rabbit.
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>>181827105
Forces will be good, but it's so unimpressive it will be shat on anyway
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>>181826408
>kids

Kids are watching the Unleashed let's play you enormous faggot.
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Saw this stupid meme on Facebook
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Tezt
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>>181827874
>Thinking Sonic 2006 was good
>Thinking Colors was bad.

You are right, it is stupid!
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>>181827874
As someone who loves all the games listed there except for 06 and Lost World, what the fuck. Sure 06 definitely had the most potential out of all 3D Sonic games, but its final product is objectively bad.
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>>181828126
Modern fans have gotten so anti-nostalgia, that it's messing with their perception of quality.
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>>181827994
Colors is worse than 06
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>>181827874
What a bunch of horseshit, Colors was fantastic.
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>>181828215
No, because think about it, Colors and Lost World are recent, the most modern in that picture, this isn't the work of a Modern fan, this is the work of someone whose dreams will never come true. I should know, I'm one as well.
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>>181828573
I know they're not Modern Modern fans but I didn't want to start shit by calling them Adventurefags or something like that. I honestly don't know what to call the middle part of the fanbase.
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>>181827874
now that is what I call bait. 10/10
what page?
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>>181828816
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRe3h1iQ1Os

shhh
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>>181829107
>vgl will never do this
why live
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>>181827874
>06
>innovative
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How does it feel knowing there are people in this general who prefer adult human women over rainbow colored, noodle limbed animals?
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>>181829816
elise is an animal in bed
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>>181829816
my niggas
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>>181829859
She's a hot burning devil inside.
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>>181829816
So?
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>>181829816
What about someone who's both?
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>>181829942
Not anymore, the Flame of Solaris was blown out. Now she's just a sweet, beautiful princess whom I pine for.
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Is Omega stronger than Metal Sonic?
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>>181830185
too bad she belongs to sonic man
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>>181830185
You mean it never happened at all. No one is stupid enough to extract the Flame of Solaris and seal it in a sweet, beautiful princess, right?
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>>181830289
Is Knuckles stronger than Sonic?
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>>181830334
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>>181830289
Probably

>>181830479
He knocked him out of super mode.
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>Other boards went offline for some reason except for this.

What happened?
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Why Sonic 06 was story-wise a better Kingdom Hearts than every Kingdom Hearts put together?
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>>181830654
How does one make that sort of facial expression?
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>>181830654
What
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What's the coolest setpiece in Sonic?
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>>181831726
Can't access /co/ & /vp/ for some reason.
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>>181832060
Strange, works fine for me.
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>>181830908
they went full retard
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>>181830654
>CP being posted on /a/ and /v/
>literally can't report because hiromoot is a fucking baka
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>>181832596
>thread about ponies has hit all limits
What the fuck.
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>>181832596
>>181832778
>both boards are going nuclear
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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To be honest, I never had an issue with Elise, even if preferred Sonic with Amy. I liked how Amy and Elise were friendly each other instead of hating one another.
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>>181832046
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>pony+cp thread on /v/ gets archived
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>>181833253
*I, *with
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>>181833727
post crossovers
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>>181833982
the best crossover is rainbow's promo video referencing sonic's catchphrase

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRdZGGctk1E
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>>181833727
>>181833982
>report is still broke
You win this round.
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>>181833727
>>181833982
>>181834182
Not this time.
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>>181834182
>offical channel
Welp.

>>181834289
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>>181834289
You can't do anything. Just accept it like I have.
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>>181834289
>>181835008

it's time for GR15 to end. we're taking this site back
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https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/882992621039230976

>Here's a sample of the main Sonic Forces theme, "Fist Bump", with vocals!
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>>181835938
Sounds better without vocals imo

>"Fist Bump"
L-lewd!
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>>181823508
>shitposter
>singular
if only you knew
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>>181835938
MY FUCKING DICK
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>>181835938
It was kind of meh until the vocals kicked in.
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>>181829816
You can't fix trash taste anon.
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>>181835938
We Can 2.0
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>>181836382
furries get /out/
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>>181835938
Hooba dooba
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>>181836541
But anon, then we would lose at least half of our posters!
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>>181836829
How is it called when you're not interested by furry trash but you still... care about Sonic characters?
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>>181835938
If this doesn't prove how self aware this game is in how ridiculous it is I have no clue what will
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>>181822905
>>181826116
cute!
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>>181837339
It's called having good taste.
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>>181829816
How does it feel knowing there are people in this general who prefer actual real-life cats to both of those things?
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>>181837339
...
Hopeful?
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>>181835938
It's.... alright. The vocals sound a bit forced, though - it's Hoobastank, mind, so that's more the boy rock band schtick.

It's not the worst vocal track we've ever had, but it doesn't sit up there with anything from Crush 40, Endless Possibilities or even Reach For The Stars. It just... doesn't sound catchy enough to stick in your head and end up singing along with.
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Good day friends, How are you?


I wanna let everyone know I'll be doing a Sonic and Undertale request stream tonight 9pm EST till 12- 1 am Est depending on how long it takes me to finish.. if you guys wanna hop in later that would be cool. I'll be talking with my austist friends just an FYI. Just for those who ar interested Thanks, <3
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>>181838729
no one cares
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>>181838729
Neat

>>181838938
Speak for yourself
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>>181838729
Terrible, I have to outside.
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>>181835938
Honestly, I preferred it without vocals. It sounds kinda lifeless. Like there's a lack of emotion, as if the vocalist is just going through the motions.
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>>181835938
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>>181835938
>the two of us
Damn even Sonic wants classic out of this game
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>>181835938
>It's alright
FUCK. Where's the thunder in these vocal tracks, where's the impact? I don't feel one way or another about it, and I should feel good, dammit!
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>>181835938
>that name
>tfw outside, reaching for headphones in order to comment the theme in time on /sthg/
It's nice. When I first heard the intro I was afraid because it sounded like a stock animu opening without the waifu voice, but the vocals cast this feeling away. It sounds like the kind of theme which now is just "nice", but which will in a few years be full of symbolism and nostalgia.
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>>181835938
>that name
What the fuck

Also it doesn't sound that great but hopefully we'll get a Crush40 cover eventually that makes it sound a lot better.
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>>181838729
Work was aight.
Going to play some vidya after my run.
Going to continue not asking girls out to chill.
The usual.
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>yfw Mario has a better Vocal track than Sonic in his first try.
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>>181835938
I would've loved Johnny and Jun on this but I'll take it. Kinda reminded me of the themes in Heroes. It's a step in the right direction for me after whatever Lost World was doing.

>post yfw it starts to play in climax of the final boss
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>>181839903
Get out, stupid plumber
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>>181838729
Not bad. Just tried playing Sonic Unleashed and Colors in VR using Dolphin. Unfortunately the HUD elements don't like to play nice and the screen would bug out every time I Boosted, or some other small thing that made the overall experience not really worth it. At least Adventure and Adventure 2 work pretty well, though naturally the camera does some vom-inducing things every once and awhile.

What else should I try? I have access to every GCN/Wii Sonic game.
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>>181840068
Truth hurts doesn't it?
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>>181840242
>Truth hurts
It only hurts when it's not lies, fatty
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>>181839903
>randumb song so gud xoxo
You mean like the Turd Mini that sold as if it was the next next revolution of gaming. Mario is a big crappy landmark for autists and people that don't play videogames.
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>>181839903
>He thinks Jazz Ditty #1867 is better than Open Your Heart
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>>181840553
So he's just like Sonic.
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>>181840232
Try Heroes and Riders.
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>>181840635
beat me to it
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>>181840596
I think he means, the first time Mario has a vocal track, it blew Forces out of the water. Which I hope because no nigger is going to tell me that What I'm Made Of isn't goat.

>>181840553
But I like Mario. In fact, as much as my love for Sonic is, I think Mario is indeed the better platformer.
Sonic is a good platformer but DKC is king.
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>>181840820
I think post-NES Mario is an overrated meme. DKC is great tho. Kirby is awesome.
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>>181840242
this is gonna sting then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2SSHpTGCrA
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>>181781784
>True but it makes you invulnerable and Sonic still moves like a tank down linear corridors. Sonic also instantly goes to top speed, where in reality he should slooowly reach top speed like an accelerator.

Spryo doesn't slowly accelerate when he charges. Also Boost does not make sonic invulnerable. Not anymore than spindash does.
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>>181841348
Who would win? Red guy or some clear liquid
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>>181841520
>15 hours ago
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>>181785843
Sonic Unleashed should be the staple of how humans look in the sonic world. Exaggerated and Cartoony. So that he doesn't look so out of place.
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ITT: We come up with synonyms for "Chaos Emeralds." I'll go first.
Anarchy Gems
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>>181841016
Mario Sunshine and Galaxy were good.
Even if overrated, they're still good games, I can respect that.
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>>181841980
Mayhem Stones
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>>181841980
"Mineral MacGuffins"
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>>181841980
dragon pearls
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>>181841980
The Discord Elements
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>>181841348
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew9IMNVdDek
>implying Sega did it first
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>>181841980
M. E. and the Seven Dwarves
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>>181841980
Destructive Diamonds
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>>181841980
Riot Rocks
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>>181841980
Deep Power Stones
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>>181841980
Wrath Rocks
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>>181841980
Power Crystals.
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>>181838729
Sounds like a plan
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>>181841980
Entropy Elements
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>>181841980
Order Sapphires
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>>181841980
Bedlam beryls
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>>181841980
Turmoil Tourmalines
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>>181841980
Cataclysm Crystals
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>>181841980
Time Stones
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"Gotta Go... Faster..."
"Sonic, No! If you go too fast, you'll-"
"No, Tails. I need to go faster!"
"No, Sonic... Don't do it...!"
"Tails... you're my best friend, you know that?"
"Sonic, no...!"
"Sayonara..."
"NO, SONIC! SONIC! STOP!"
"HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA....!!!!"
"NOOOO!!!"
"FFFFAAAASSSSSSTTEERRRRRRR....!!!!"
"SSSSSOOOOOOOONNNIIIIICCCCC!!!!"

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM...... !!!

"S-...Sonic...."
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>>181843691
So this is the power of speed huh?
Not bad, not bad at all.
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>>181843691
that was an actual episode of boom
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>>181833317
Where the heck was Eggmanland in the OVA?
It seemed like it was somehow below the planet's surface in a massive cave.
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>>181843838
It was in the Land of Darkness and the surface world where Sonic lives is the Land in the Sky.

The Sonic OVA had some weird ass lore.
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>>181843838
No, Eggman lives on the surface in the Land of Darkness, whereas Sonic and friends live way above in the Land of the Sky.
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>>181843838
The OVA's world seemed to be comprised of two areas: the land in the sky and the land of darkness. From how I understood it, the land of the sky was made up of large, floating, connected landmasses, and the land of darkness was the planet below.
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>>181835938
>The song is called some shitty dudebro name.

Is Sega serious with this shit?
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>>181843838
he explains it himself

try watching the movie without porn on the other screen
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>>181844198
They're trying to connect with the kids cause fist bump is pewdiepie's thing and kids love pewdiepie these days, right!?
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>>181844367
But Pewdiepie's thing is called the Brofist, not the fist bump.
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>>181843691
"I can't believe Sonic is... gone..."
"...No..."
"K-Knuckles? What..."
"There's still a way to save him."
"What... what do you mean? How?"
"I JUST HAVE TO GET STRONGER!!!"
"Knuckles, NO!!!"
'HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.....!!!!!"
"KKKNNNUUUUCCCKKLLLEEESSSSS!!!!"

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM.... !!!

"........K...Knuckles..?"
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>>181841980
Rowdy Rubies
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>>181826832
Yeah I understand your points. I actually agree with most of them. I'm looking for more openness with either Buddy or Modern Sonic. (Preferably Buddy's since considering his ability)

It's a bit hard to make calls as to what can be improved when we don't know, at least for certain, most of the content available. Though I suppose it's better than shitposting.
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>>181843838
New Jersey.
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>>181844615
>3 hours ago
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>>181844435
It's the same exact shit.
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>>181826916
I can see why you don't like them. On model is mainly nice for me personally.

I don't think the Sonic series has ever had figmas or anything else so that's why I mentioned them since it seems it'd be a likelier chance, anon.
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>>181835938
>Sonic characters praising and cheering the player on
>Theme song is basically Sonic kissing the player's ass
I'm more excited for Mania but his game's giving me so many shameful boners
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>>181844703
Nah, it didn't look half as bad as Newark.
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>>181835938
I want to listen to this so bad but I'm stuck being around people with no headphones for the rest of the day. Now I'll never understand the context for all these posts
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>>181844198
It makes no sense to have that name with the tone the story is going to have. If anything it'd work with a sillier , lighthearted tone that Sonic works better in
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>>181835938
Does a good job of getting me pumped.
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>>181844703
I can confirm.
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>>181845013
You wouldn't wanna hear this in front of people, it's Sonic Heroes levels of cheese
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>>181845045
I never want to see The Master wink at me ever again.
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>>181845205
*play this out loud in front of people
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>>181845205
Those are my favorite levels of cheese. Now I'm sitting in public with the stupidest grin on my face looking like a idiot
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>>181844198
It's not named after a dudebro move you fool, the title was chosen by a closet furry who certainly posted here today.
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>>181845280
thats not john simms

>>181835938
I think it was better as an instrumental
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Death Egg Robot is just a bootleg AT from Votoms. The legs go backwards when they land, they don't detach but Votoms have extending fists, the new Death Egg Robots in Forces even have similar faces.
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Sorry that I'm not always on 4chan, anon.
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>>181845280
That's not the Master.
Fun fact, Simon Pegg was in Doctor Who, looking after the Mighty Jagrafex of the holy Maxrodenfoe, but you're thinking of John Simms, best known for Life on Mars and being the Best Master.
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>>181845456
Yes it is. It looks like him, therefore him. QED.
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>>181845350
*an idiot. I guess I really am one when I make typos like that
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>>181776724
Best looking hammer design
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>>181835938
Yikes, this is not my kind of music but I hope someone derives pleasure from it.
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>>181845503
Was suppose to be for >>181844712
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>>181826079
I had an idea for Sonic figures that had plastic molded heads, bodies, hands, and shoes, but their limbs were bendable wires covered in colored plastic. I think that there's a toy out there that already does this, but I'm not sure.
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>>181845517
Ah yes. Doctor #9. How could I forget? Pretty easily, turns out.

You think The Doctor would be mad at Sonic and Shadow for all of their Chaos Control fuckery messing with the timestream?
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;D Fist
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The song is just stupid. I had a feeling it would be since the music itself didn't sound all that good, but I still held out hope that somehow the vocals were going to be better once released.

Like always, I was wrong. "Adventure-like" my ass, Iizuka. All the music is uninspired, current year garbage and wannabe retro.
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>>181780095
>Pic related is how we should be handling Knuckles.

FIFY
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>>181835938
I don't even know how I feel any the name or lyrics and I even like things like "You're My Hero".

The singer seems familiar (or maybe generic) but maybe it'll grow on me.
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>>181845350
Same here, this dropped while I was on my way to a meeting on foot
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>>181845981
Nine and ten would. 11 might be willing to hear them out.
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>>181835938
Jesus christ this is awful. The fan-made lyrical versions are better.
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I'm probably the only one who doesn't outright hate the Forces theme. The vocals could be done better though. I'm more interested in the game itself anyways.
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>>181780095
>>181780195
treetops level is basically 3D sonic but good
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>>181846212
The vocals sound more like a Youtube "X song with lyrics" fan thing, the guy lacks vocal range too. The name also seems stupid and thought up in mere seconds, Live and Learn, Open your Heart, Reach for the Stars and Endless Possibilities have better names that sound appealing, "Fist Bump" is so lazy much like a lot of what I've seen of the game so far
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>>181846734
>charge button instead of momentum
Can you fuck off already, Spyro retard?
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Don't worry guys...I'm sure the Crush 40 cover will be good...
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>>181846704
All the music is awful. You're going to be hearing this trash in every stage.

Sonic used to have rockin' tunes and everyone praised Sega for it, but they once again went full retard and changed it. They changed one of the only redeeming elements of their franchise. What a bunch of fucking faggots.
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>>181846704
>I'm probably the only one
What

Even though this is /sthg/ you should read the thread instead of presuming it's full of shiposters anon

>>181847038
They changed it because of years of "cut the buttrokk muh Sonic isn't for teens it's for 4 years old and Eggman theme parks" shitposting
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>>181847038
>Sonic used to have rockin' tunes and everyone praised Sega for it
Actually soundtracks being filled to the brim with forgettable buttrock was one of the WORST things about the music. People hate the overreliance on rock in SA2 through ShTH. It wasn't until Sonic 06 that the music started to get good with actual variety like SA1 did again.
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>>181846824
You're exactly right. The vocalist has no range, sounds like they picked some random Youtuber who does video game music covers. And the lyrics sound like they have little thought put into them, like they were just made up on the spot so the game can have a vocal theme.

This is a fucking disgrace. I'm insulted.
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>>181844816
>Sonic finally knows what it's like to be a dick-sucking cheerleader
Feel the pain your fans felt for the last 7-10 years, Sonic the Hedgehog. You deserve it.
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>>181847262
>They changed it because of years of "cut the buttrokk muh Sonic isn't for teens it's for 4 years old and Eggman theme parks" shitposting
And people asked for this indie-tier shit?

>>181847357
Nigga, there were complainers (Like every aspect of Sonic), but I've seen it get a lot of love. Sega is taking 5 steps back with this. The only song that sounded half-good was Modern Sonic's Park Avenue stage and Sega hasn't fucking released that one, so they think all the crap tracks are quality.
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>>181841980
JO Crystals
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>>181847636
*Friends
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>>181847038
Sonic does electronic music better than rock.
Jun's guitar work is good but the lyrics are always cringy. I never really cared for Crush 40.
This is good rock without the bullshit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLxlkEWUdO8
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>>181847884
Well, we have neither now. So we're screwed.
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>>181835938
The vocals don't mesh well at ALL with the music, holy fuck. I would've gladly taken more Crush 40 buttrock over this drivel.
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>>181847778
>And people asked for this indie-tier shit?
After years of "hurr Sonic isn't Mario", Sega proposed that abomination of Lost World that did as good as it deserved. Now they are not-so-subtly realizing they listened to idiots who don't even play Sonic games and are trying to retropedal to a "rock" genre but still feeling "indie" and "trendy" because gamers are nowadays still reduced to Kotaku, mindless Amibo buying and bleached hair.

Now let's be clear, I would personally have preferred a Sonic 06 soundtrack. In terms of music, direction and general feeling, the game nailed what Sonic should have been perfectly. Unfortunately it was an alpha abomination that got shitposted to death, until the indie nostalgiafags persuaded Sega for 7 years that they were the true fans.
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>>181848360
Hey, Sonic 06 was a trash game, but it's music was excellent. So you're not in the wrong thinking that.
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>>181846704
Sonic with vocal themes is something that should've stayed dead because now we get garbage like this. Give me orchestral any day, at least that's generic at worst instead of awful. Or hell, electronic. Give me Colors' ost over this trash
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If Forces is bad, then Iizuka succeeded his mission in making Mario appear better since he loves him so much.
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>>181848360
>the game nailed what Sonic should have been perfectly.
Idk about that, but it nailed Sonic 06 perfectly. That's the thing: it was competent in what it was doing. But this is just plain stupid. Much like the game itself, it's at odds with itself. It's a vocal theme, Modern Sonic usually has those, and they're trying to appeal to older fans with it, but the lyrics are cringy and juvenile like they think kids are idiots and wouldn't like it otherwise.
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I know people have opinions but I personally do not want (significantly) autotuned electronic shit that some people rave over.
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>>181848649
If Forces bombs, say goodbye to 3D Sonic, if not the franchise on the whole.
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>>181848603
Colors OST wasn't really that bad, though.
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>>181849192
I know it wasn't. It's perfect for the franchise and Forces would be better with a soundtrack like it
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>>181849192
The worst from Colors is "Speak With Your Heart" disregarding lyrics imo.
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>>181849451
It know it's incredibly cheesy, but I still like it for some reason, shamefully.
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>>181848740
Yeah, there's still an insincere feeling about it. But when you think about it, it's not even Sonic alone. It's like when you watch an capeshit movie and then it starts to throw random jokes to deescalate a tension it doesn't assume. Welcome to the marketing&casual era of the 2010s.

>>181848576
It's the only Sonic soundtrack I bothered to get on my Spotify. I only watched the full Johnny playthrough but the general universe and artistic direction impressed me.
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>>181849087
>If Forces bombs, say goodbye to 3D Sonic

Good, if Sonic Team are too fucking incompetent to make anything good anymore then it's not worth it. I'd rather have no 3D Sonic than a constant stream of shit. I'm not even a Classicfag, I'm just so fed up with being disappointed.
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>>181849451
Speak With Your Heart more like Speak With Your Farts because that song is bad am I right
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>>181849451
>>181849597
Speak With Your Heart is great though. It transcends being cringy and becomes adorable and innocent.
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>>181848360
I've been listening to 06's OST since 2009. Easily one of my favorites of the non-2D Sonic games, along with Adventure 1, Heroes, and Secret Rings.
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How blinded by nostalgia do you have to be to unironically think Open Your Heart and Live & Learn are good songs

I mean what the fuck, they're both terrible
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>>181849597
I don't know, I want to like the song but there's something about it. It's not the cheesiness though.
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>>181849851
Better than what we have now.
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>>181849851
They're decent and WAY better than this.
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>>181849669
I'm definitely okay with adorable and innocent. Why I like Reach for the Stars over Speak with your Heart, I don't know if I can really describe it.

I'd like to say autotuned or repetitiveness but the former has both.
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>>181850058
Is it because it sounds kinda childish, like, more-so than it should for a Sonic game?
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Don't be too disheartened, anons. Remember that Forces has been in development for years, even before Mania started development. A lot of great 3D fangames like GHP, World and Utopia have come out since then and, more importantly, have gotten a lot of traction in the mainstream media. We know that Webber knows about GHP, at the very least, so there's that.
Maybe Sonic Team is already looking to the future now that Forces' development is wrapping up and they're taking these new developments into account to determine what it is fans want to see?

Unfortunately, if they take inspiration from GHP and Utopia that means more Green Hill Zone...
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What vocal songs in Sonic would you consider to be cheesy?

And before you say "all of them", prioritize and think the most cheesiest.
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You know what the worst thing about the song is? It's not horrible. We Can, Almost Dead and Race To Win are so much worse.

But it's not also not amazing like Open Your Heart, What I'm Made Of, or Dreams of an Absolution.

It's just...adequate. It meets the bare minimum of tolerability.
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>>181850321
I'm okay with childish sounding themes though. What other songs would be considered as childish?
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>>181850621
>We Can is terrible
Get the fuck out of here you gay, not even Bara Polar Bear.

RotorFag is less of a raging homosexual than you, you bumder.
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>>181850513
look a like
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>>181850513
Your favorite
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>>181850621
the bear minimum?
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>>181850621
Almost Dead was GOAT, dude.
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>>181850621
Between those three I like We Can more.

Now that I think about comparing Fist Bump to other themes like A New Venture and Race to Win, I think I enjoy it a bit more..

>>181850825
Pls, anon. I like a lot of them.
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>>181850513
All of them are cheesy in their own way. Cheesy is not necessarily bad. Sonic's campiness has always been one of its strengths.

The ones that go too far though are basically >>181850621
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>>181850825
Y'wanna run that by me again?
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>>181849851
Yeah, that's no music to listen to in public. We should get help from One Direction instead, in order to be hip and trendy!
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So hey, got a question

Reached the point of making E-102 Gamma's upgrades and the other E-series parts, but something hit me.

Gamma's Booster was very obviously faceted in Sonic Adventure, but I don't know if that was out of graphical limitations, considering his cyclindrical limbs are literally just 4-sided logs in Sonic Adventure, or if it was done by design.

Would it make more sense to make the booster into a fully rounded shape, or keep the faceted design?
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>>181851065
Exactly
They're all the cheesiest of the cheese
But even when compared to the more cheesy songs in the series, >>181851196's favorite's especially cheesy
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>>181850513
We Can is definitely the cheesiest. I like cheesy Sonic songs but even this one is too much for me. Everything about is too happy and bouncy for me

Both versions of It Doesn't Matter are cheesy but awesome. They get you so pumped up you don't worry about the cheesiness. Plus they have those awesome guitar solos

The majority of songs in Sonic Underground are ridiculously cheesy but I know most people here haven't heard them all so it's hard to say anything about them. I think Learn to Overcome and No One is an Island are probably the cheesiest of then all. It's hard to pick since most of them are forgettable
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>>181849851
>t.Bieberfag
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>>181851195
I like the way you described it as "going too far"; I wished I phrased it better. Thanks anon!
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>>181850621
>talking shit about Almost Dead
Get out
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>>181851516
Keep the faceted design.
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>>181851808
I agree.
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I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU'RE THINKING AS YOU TURN TO ME
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>In an alternate timeline, Force's opening stage tracks sound like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfFfDiNeTgI
Say what you will, but I'd rather go fast to that than what we have right now. Even the name is called Noisy Town/Town in Upheaval.
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>>181841980
Pandemonium Prisms
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>>181850164
Not by much. All vocal themes are bad
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>>181852226
Thanks for dampening my day, anon.
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>>181841980
Bedlam Baubles
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>>181852392
What's your favorite instrumental, anon?
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>>181851987
>>181851808
Okay, thanks
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>>181852487
Green Hill Zone.
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>we'll never have the guy who did MGR compose a Sonic game
https://youtu.be/ZYnDsr8z4iU
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>>181753009
>but other times it gets really frustrating when I can't explain what something is or to respond when someone asks "remember this part?"
That's strange, because I don't suffer it. I don't think I have this problem, as I still can remember fondly some games controlling and looking like how they really do in reality, and thus, this make it easier to discuss. For example, I quickly regained my old muscle memory with Rush's controls once I have played first for a few minutes on Leaf Storm and I was able to rapidly get around with the game's physics and level design.
I wish I could explain it, but I can't, because I don't know.

> Also waifu tends to be used as a default term even though husbando would be the technical term for you.
Really? That's the first time I have seen someone calling my husbando "waifu". I never thought "waifu" could be a general term, not only reserved for fictional females.
That's interesting to me, but nah, I will still gladly use "husbando" term since it simply suits better to me.


>>181835938
This sounds good for me. It doesn't pump me, but the rhythm sounds like it's from an serious anime's opening. This goes well with Forces's general serious theme, and the vocals make it better. I want the lyrics.

>>181779203
>>181779112
I don't really watch and like youtubers in general like Game Grumps or whatever it's called, but still, I believe you guys are overreacting over a video for a bit too much, I guess.
By the way, I'm not him, but what's wrong with saying "y'all"?
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>>181852392
Do you mean Sonic vocal themes or all video game vocal songs, because depending on your answer.
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>>181852639
Why the fuck haven't you been banned for avatarfagging yet?
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>>181841980
Rumpus Rhodonites
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>>181852616
Are there any tracks this guy did besides MGR?
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>>181852616
Sonic in general would do well from an MGR direction.
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>>181852873
Because nobody even bothers to read posts that long. Most people have like a one or two sentence limit tops.
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>>181852639
Wish I could've heard a further explanation but I find your explanation fascinating, thanks anon.
Its usually reserved to female fictional characters though. I've seen the several occasions where someone otherwise though.
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>>181853107
True. People here have their brains freeze when they have to read more than two lines of text.
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>>181852487
Rooftop run
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>>181835938
I didn't like it all at all until the very end. The singing sounds off sometimes during the rest of the song but it's mostly on point during the last part, aside from "one mooore laaahhhhhst fist buuuueeeeeeemmp". Also:

>Before I say goodbye to you,
>One more last
>Fist bump!

I think this confirms that Buddy is NOT going to get killed off like a lot of people were thinking. I'm guessing he just leaves and goes home.
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ive been playing Dr. robotniks mean bean machine and I completed it for the first time. It's fun try and build up combos. I've come to think of it as a good pin-off game. credit should go to the original puyo puyo.

Would like to see it done again, Call it Eggman's Mean Bean machine.
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>>181853310
I should have clarified "favorite instrumental from a vocal song".

Rooftop Run is really nice though (though I'm assuming you meant the Day counterpart) I need to listen to the night time parts again
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>>181853310
>>181853665
Better be talking about the Generations version. The gorgeous violins make the original track sound like a beta version.
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>>181853409
>Would like to see it done again
Or you could just play the myriad of Puyo Puyo games.
Remember in the 90s when anime bullshit didn't sell like hotcakes?
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>>181853409
Is MBM's difficulty curve high, anon?

>>181853894
I wasn't thinking about Gen's. I'll give a relisten by the end of the day

>>181853907
You remind me to get Princess Maker
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>>181854203
it's a case of one you learn what tactic to use it becomes easier.
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>>181853409
>Eggman's Mean Bean machine
>Eggman
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>>181835938
Pretty good but could use some work. Hopefully is isn't the final version.
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>>181852873
Lazy mods
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>>181853107
My brain aborts reading whatever it identifies as blogposting.
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Despite the theme song being meh, I'm still looking forward to Forces.
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>>181855921
lets get one thing clear here

rotor is not gay. you're fucking gay
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>Kiss your fist goodbye!
What did he mean by this?
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>>181856487
It's "Kiss your fears goodbye."
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>>181855741
Sorry, anon!

>>181853107
I noticed that. Not a good mentality to have, especially during discussions/arguments.
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>>181856748
oh. Well that's the last time I go to the youtube comments for lyrics I guess
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>Listens to Fist Bump
>It's actually pretty good
>Looks at this thread
>The first few posts are all people loving or jsut not really caring for the theme, only for the thread to be filled with shitposting
Are we gonna go through this shit every fucking time news about Forces comes out, good or bad?
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>>181857708
In case you haven't caught on, yes.
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>>181857708
Why do you like eating shit?
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>>181857708
Yes. You're not allowed to like anything from Sonic Team because they're killing Sonic.
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>>181857708
Most likely. Seems like more people are looking forward to Mania than Forces. I'm not crazy about the theme but I'm still pretty hyped for the game.
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>>181857918
I love just how it's always the same thing that happens too
>Forces news drops in the morning
>It's either people liking it or people just stating that they don't really care that much
>No arguing or shitposting, just people giving an honest opinion
>Afternoon hits
>500 posts of bait, arguing & shitposting
>Next thread, people are having a decent discussion about said news without shitposting
Like clockwork & I'm not even happy about everything we've seen with this game so far
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>>181857708
Classic Cucks and Dreamcast Douches shitposting to death. You can't stop it, just ignore it. Even on /sthg/ they are a noisy minority, evidenced by every strawpoll we got.
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>>181857708
I liked it but it could use some polishing. Also I wonder how the full version will sound considering this is only a sample
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>>181858496
I think this is the final mix. The music is louder and has more compression to it than the instrumental did. This will be what you'll hear in the final game.
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>>181857708
Anon, just like how you can like things. People can dislike things! WOAH!

I didn't know that liking only some aspects of a thing means that you're shitposting, you sound really offended.
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>>181858778
Anon, I just said I'm not even fully happy with Forces. There's things I dislike & things I like about the game, that doesn't mean people aren't shitposting.
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>>181858715
If that's the case than fuck. It's not bad, just not...good either.
>>181858382
At least they can agree on something, plus the Forces OST so far is pretty weak, dangerously Lost World level .
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>>181859158
I liked Lost World's soundtrack. Very few bad songs but it mostly doesn't sound like Sonic music at all.
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>>181859148
Alright, I'm blind; so what posts are you referring to?
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>>181857708
I think the reception here is generally negative because it's been so long that everyone has been expecting different things. The lyrics are kind of cheesy and the franchise has sort of been moving away from this sort of music for awhile. This is Sonic Heroes levels of cheesiness which a /lot/ of us were not expecting. Plus, a lot of people liked the instrumental version because it sounds like ass-kicking music. The lyrics don't exactly match up with that. Also, it's not Crush 40. For the people who did want cheesy buttrock to come back, they wanted Crush 40 and not some random music group that's never worked with Sonic before. We have all these nostalgic characters returning like Chaos and Shadow but no Crush 40. What.

Personally, I like the song a lot. I like the cheesiness. I feel pumped up for something when I listen to it. It's no Open your Heart or What I'm Made Of for sure, but it's still pretty good. I can definitely see why people don't like it though.

Give it some time. People might start warming up to it. And if they don't, it's fine. This general is actually pretty diverse so there's always going to be something someone loves that you hate and vice versa.
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I'd like the song more if the singer wasn't the guy from fucking Hoobastank. What's next, Linkin Park doing the credits song?
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>>181859629
I never heard of hoobastank until today. Do thy have any notable songs?
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>>181859474
>For the people who did want cheesy buttrock to come back, they wanted Crush 40 and not some random music group that's never worked with Sonic before.
I mean, it's worked before. Cash Cash and Bowling for Soup did well enough.
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>>181858715
Doubtful. The instrumental being better now is because that part of the song has been around for a year. The lyrical version could very well improve towards Forces release

>>181858191
There's been shitpoting about Mania too. sadly.
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>>181840596
I love Open Your Heart, but Jazz anything is better than Butt Rock.
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>>181859887
Not that anon but Cash Cash was mediocre for me usually, what did Bowling for Soup do?

Because I was okay with other singers but I don't think I'm okay with the ones listed.
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>>181849851
i lose it every time i see the finalhazard fight because of live and learn and how it drowns out the voices
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>>181835938
I think it's okay. I can't really judge it now though, as it might grow on me later.

I also thought SA2's soundtrack was meh when I first heard it, but now it's one of my favorites.
Well, I even came to like some of Sonic 4's music (when someone gave it better instrumentation anyways)
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>>181860150
Endless Possibilities, which is easily one of the best Sonic songs ever.
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>>181859969
Fist Bump now is to the instrumental what Lights Camera Action is to the original Studiopolis. They've been mixed and will be what we'll hear in the games.
Unless you're hoping that they rerecord the vocals which isn't impossible I guess.
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>>181860318
>yfw Endless Possibility was sung my none other than Charles Entertainment Cheese
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>>181860150
Bowling for Soup was responsible for Endless Possibilities. Good song in my opinion.
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>>181860318
>The guys who did my favorite Sonic Theme also did one of my favorite cartoon themes
Shit, it all makes sense now.
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>>181860318
>>181860570
Oh whoops, that's what I get for not checking. Endless Possibility is pretty great.
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>>181860598
Also this so-bad-it's-good AMV intro.
https://youtu.be/NuXuu5nsNnY
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>>181860810
How is this bad? It sounds perfectly fine.
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New thread when
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>>181860598
>Suddenly really want to make Perry for Forces
>Realize I almost certainly can't because there's no what they'll let you have a duck bill and a beaver tail.
Fuck me.
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>>181861101
The video, anon?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BdhL0hcElo And then this happens.
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>>181861148
let sonic die
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>>181861101
It's bad because the song has literally nothing to do with the anime.
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>>181852983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHz8_rdsEqU
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>>181861101
The song's not as good as the Flock of Seagulls version, and a lot of people have a grudge against it considering it replaced one of the most popular anime opening themes of all time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu533OKYHyc).
The Spasnish Language version (mind you Mexico and South America is the region where Saint Seiya is the most popular by far) did the right thing by recording new vocals for that theme, rather than replacing it outright. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnjOZrTcJkw
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>>181859629
>hating Linkin Park
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