/sthg/ - Sonic The Hedgehog General

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>I'm counting on you guys!
>Hmph!
>Affirmative!

You have a favorite character from the comics/cartoons? Good! Now how would you properly implant into the game canon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfJuJrqFhXM
Thread theme

>>181645313
Was this the peak of 4kids?

Has anyone ever heard back from rafa?

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>>181645286
Rush Adventure 2
Alternatively Shadow the Hedgehog 2 with Eclipse as the main villian

heroes fucking sucks

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Happy 4th /sthg/.

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>>181645286
Cosmo.

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>>181646684

>>181645286
Eggman is still capturing animals to put them into robots. One of the Deadly Six shows up to fuck around with it so that the animals are enslaved under their control. Sonic interrupts the process halfway through. The result is a rabbit who was in the machine at the time ends up with permanently robotic legs and a left arm. She comes to terms with her new cybernetic status and decides to use her new abilities to help others. Gameplay is basically Mega Man in the Sonic universe.

>>181645313
People shit on 4Kids, but they had some pretty good dubs. Pokémon, Kirby, Ultimate Muscle, and even F-Zero.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CimFRUlV178
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQUU_VzP3tg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSxJaBn7dtk
Happy 4th of July, you niggers.

>>181648994
And they also came up with some pretty good songs when they put the effort.

>>181649030
Is it wrong to find this adorable instead of cringy?

>>181649335
I'm more bothered by whatever the heck is going on with the ears.

>>181648994
I don't even think Sonic X was bad.

I think most people who shit on 4kids are just weeaboos and edgelords

>>181649570
>I don't even think Sonic X was bad.
Ignoring the edited script and censoring, the Sonic X dub was atrocious. It frequently played obnoxious music, got many details about the games wrong ("That used to be Chaos Control") since they didn't even play the games, and they even use Live and Learn in the SA2 adaptation.

>>181649848
*didn't even use Live and Learn in the SA2 adaptation

>>181648994
Pokemon was pure cringe.
People also forget about the F-Zero anime. It really is dope as fuck. It manages to blend being chill and high-octane races pretty well. Captain Falcon is also absolutely based.
It sucks that only Kinnikuman Nisei got dubbed considering the original series is god-tier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5OMmTQARK8&t=334s

>>181648994
>Kirby dub
>good
They fucking cut out scenes from the show. They also changed the soundtrack. 4kids is shit on because they did that for nearly every anime they dubbed.

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I've been struggling to find some way to tie Sonic into my July 4th festivities, but I think I've got it:
Post your best times for Empire City in the Generations Unleashed Project. This run took me a few attempts after having not played it in awhile.

>>181650535
Both the US and JP theme for Kirby is so damn catchy.

>>181650535
Yo that theme tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I61RdIMqfuQ

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>>181648326
But that can't really work in the games. While in SatAM and the pre-reboot comics, roboticization was used on both anthropomorphic citizens and non-anthropomorphic animals, in the games and rebooted comics, the animals Eggman uses are the smaller animals. In the reboot comics, it's mentioned that Eggman was testing a new approach for roboticization, so that might have been akin to SatAM, but as of now, we'll never know.

You really are a bunch of manchildren...

>>181648326
This desu. Have it play like X4. Maybe like X4 you can play as Ant

>>181650831
The Deadly Six decide to do it to Tails.

I just realized that if we battle against Shadow we could get a remix of I am all of me or All hail Shadow, which one do you want?

>>181650535
I think what he means is in regards to the script and acting.

>>181650535
>not liking Dedede's sexy Texan accent
To the brig with you.

>>181650831
Bunnie just happens to be a bigger animal who gets captured regardless. The reason why I included the Deadly Six, much as I hate them, is because they did exactly what I described to try and enslave Tails, so it'd basically be the same thing.

>>181650440
>Pokemon was pure cringe
Are you talking about the dub or the anime in general?

>>181650890
For what reason, anon?

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>>181649848
they would also make really /really/ bizarre changes. They would remove text and symbols from signs, buildings, etc. and never replace them, even if the text played a huge role in whatever was going on screen at the time

>>181650890
>he spends his free time to come onto an anime imageboard, goes over to the video game circlejerk, seeks out a general dedicated to a 26 year old game, flexes out his fingers to call the posters manchildren
>instead of doing anything productive with his life
>considering what he's doing, literally anything at all

C'mon Anon, look around you, we're all manchildren here. You, me, the people from /ck/ to /fit/, what you gonna do.

>>181651168
Mostly the dub.

>>181651225
dumbest thing is most of the text was in english. they just needed to fix a few typos here and there

I guess reading is for nerds

>>181650941
>>181651087
First of all, it's mentioned that Tails' "roboticization" was done with Eggman's technology and his help, so he could do the same thing. Secondly, Tails was designed as a cyborg, whereas Bunnie's roboticization was interrupted, thus turning her into a cyborg. A more game-accurate backstory would be Bunnie being turned into a cyborg successfully and then gaining control of her body through one of Tails' inventions or something.

>>181651576
"Kids today don't read."

– An actual quote from Al Kahn, CEO of 4Kids Entertainment from 1991-2011 who was so bad that even the staff hated him

>>181651580
>First of all, it's mentioned that Tails' "roboticization" was done with Eggman's technology and his help, so he could do the same thing.
But he doesn't actually want to, otherwise he'd do it more often.

>A more game-accurate backstory would be Bunnie being turned into a cyborg successfully and then gaining control of her body through one of Tails' inventions or something.
No because then she's a different character. Having the process interrupted preserves that.

>>181651846
>implying you have to be very bad for your employees to hate you
>implying kids today read

>>181651168
the Pokemon dub was actually pretty good for the first 20 or so episodes. With the exception of anything remotely violent (like misty slapping ash in the first ep) being removed and some of the music being changed they actually kept the dub very similar to the original. Even the episode titles were close.

I don't know what happened but at some point Ash and James' voices got higher, all the episode titles changed to bad puns, etc. It was like 4kids wanted to be careful and get everything right with the dub at first but once they realized they had a hit, they started Americanizing it (more than it already was) and stopped caring about translation accuracy

>>181652112
was supposed to respond to >>181651358

>>181651857
>No because then she's a different character. Having the process interrupted preserves that.
Well, she'd be different anyways. You can't translate everything. Plus you still have the whole angst about the robot parts thing.

>>181652279
So why bother making things more different than they need to be? There's absolutely no scientific explanation behind any of: 1) how Eggman's robots are powered by animals, 2) how the Deadly Six were able to convert that into cyborgification, and 3) how the cyborg parts were able to be fully used by their wearer (in that case Tails) while still being able to be taken off in time for the next cutscene. So the games are perfectly free to make up an explanation as to how a rabbit can become a half-cyborg, or even leave it with no explanation as they have in the past. Keep it simple instead of being retarded with it.

>>181652606
It's not that different. The Deadly Six/Eggman "roboticize" Bunnie, but Tails, being a tech genius, invents something that gives Bunnie control of her body. She discovers that she's a cyborg, and cue angst/butt-kicking. She can even have her personality and everything.

>>181651846
It isn't exactly untrue, though.

>>181653076
>"It's not that different."
>proceeds to list a bunch of shit that makes it completely different
>"But you can make it the same other than that!"

>>181653076
Why can't to be "She got into an accident and had to get mechanical parts"?

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I want to take a Sonic level and put it in VR. Not as an actual playable thing, but just take the environment and walk around in it. Which level should it be, guys? Which Sonic level do you want to just *be* in? I've got a few in mind, but I can't decide.

>>181653537
What's the difference? Bunnie gets captured, gets freed from said capture, has angst and recovers from it, kicks butt with Sonic and friends, and has her personality and speech patterns intact from SatAM and the comics? Is it really all that important that the process is interrupted vs. being completed?

>>181653667
Because then she'd be an ordinary citizen. She wouldn't have combat parts, since she's not part of a resistance or anything.

>>181653993
Stardust Speedway

>>181653993
Green Hill Zone

>>181653993
Apotos

>>181653993
Sweet Mountain

>>181643178
https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=1548380
I know, 2 hours later; better late than never.

>>181653993
I think we need more Green Hill Zone

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>>181654079
Because you're changing things for no reason when the changes add nothing and serve no purpose other than to make things different for the sake of being different. If I say "let's put Bunnie in the games" it means making Bunnie as accurate as possible with the only changes being necessary to be accurate to the games (for example, no Robotnik roboticization because that's not a thing in the games). If you're going to change more than what's necessary then just make a different character.

>>181653993
Green Hill Zone! It's always the most sound and familiar place, doesn't it just warm your heart anon? I bet you're feeling all nostalgic huh? Don't worry, you can pre-order the upcoming Sonic Forces and Sonic Mania games, both featuring Green Hill Zone! We-uhh, I mean, Sega, would certainly love to see the positive feedback to their loving recreations of your favorite Zone. And then you'll see those beautiful green hills in VR in no time!

>>181653993
City Escape, or anything from Colours

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>>181653993
Emerald Coast

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The Game Grumps are now playing Unleashed.
On Wii. Christ, it's like they're trying as hard as possible to ensure that they get the worst experience possible so they can shit on it.

Great.

>>181657226
Okay

>>181657226
No shit. They know Arin's overreacting freakouts bring them the clicks.
Dan's laugh brings mine.

>>181657226
That's the best version though.

Game Grumps is playing the best Sonic game ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNd0kXZTi2s

>>181657226
>>181658563
I want to nail Arin to the fucking cross.

>>181657226
>>181658563
>Game Grumps
Who fucking cares?

>>181659101
FUCKING NORMIES, who else.

>>181658335
Wii isn't even the best SD version, at least PS2 doesn't have to deal with shitty gimmick controls.

>>181658563
And I should care why?

Though to be fair I think the Wii version utilises the boost mechanic the best by putting it into one shot segments.

>>181659334
The wii version can be played with a gamecube controller. And iirc the wii version is better for speedrunning.

>>181657226
>adventurefags still mad that their game is shit
i don't even like gamegrumps

>>181659723
The point is after all the actual fucking business and promotion the Sonic social media has given him, he responds by pulling out another Sonic game and shitting on it.

>>181659723
Whether people should care or get into an argument with it is a whole different discussion but what does the Adventure series have anything to do with Sonic Unleashed or their opinion on Sonic games in general?

>>181659973
yeah i agree that's kinda shitty actually

especially since he acts like he likes sonic every time it happens

>>181660002
adventurefags got fucking FURIOUS when he played SA1 and it was super buggy and shitty

>>181657226
Wonder how many free cupcakes he'll get this time.

>>181660002
>>181660081
also they tend to excuse it with "b-but you didn't play the original dreamcast version!" as if that's a good excuse

Videos about good Sonic games don't get the views. Simple as that.

>>181660287
even if he played a good sonic game he'd be complaining about how he can't hold right to win (even though people were making fun of sonic for that before)

>>181660081
>>181660215.
So what? The Adventure games were far from the only ones Game Grumps shat on & people get pissed about all the nonsense they've said, not just Adventure games.

>>181660385
I'm pretty sure he shat on the Genesis games, too

>>181660081
>>181660215
Okay Adventure series is bad but this isn't Adventure series, this is Unleashed; Where does "adventurefags still mad that their game is shit" come from? Comments? OP?

>>181660510
>>181660510
it's just that "they didn't play the right version!" is the typical adventurefag defense

>>181660609
And what does the Adventure games have to do with the video? No one's talking about Adventure but you, for some reason.

>>181660215
Did people actually say this or are you talking out your ass?

>>181660510

>>181660471 This is what I was trying to point out but I poorly explained it.

>>181660609
So what would be a better argument so someone wouldn't be defaulted using "adventurefag defenses"?

>>181660959
you could've just said "oh boy gamegrumps are playing another sanic game even though they hate them" or something like that

The only time le grumpworm was right was when he said OoT was shit.

>>181661098
I'm not that anon who made the initial posts but I didn't know that it made that big of a difference and assumption to a person and their "stance".

I guess I'm learning more about people's mindsets.

WOW. I had no idea there was actually a sonic general on. How does this shitty franchise still have fans. Jesus christ you really all are autistic aren't you.

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>>181659973
This is what angers me, more than anything. There are some scumbag e-celebs who scammed their way into popularity (IE Kirbopher) but Arin is among the worst of the worst. I have a genuine, actual hatred for that man.

>>181659973
How long is Aaron gonna suck up to Arin anyway? Maybe he'll shit on Mania and that'll be the final straw or something.

>>181659723
>>181660081
Arin literally played like shit to deliberately make the game look bad. You can't defend that.

>>181661529
Why do you care?

Why hasn't Sega made come up with another Sonic Fighter yet?

>>181661897
don't take the bait

>>181661883
nah he's really just that bad at video games but adventure is bad

sonic doesn't react appropriately to joystick movements half the time, if you anticipate a turn you're guaranteed to fuck up

>>181661529
Anon, please learn what autism is. It would make you look slightly better but considering you make lame comments, I doubt that it could save you.

>>181659101
Every time they do a Sonic LP on their channel people turn everything they say into a meme and that's all we hear for months. I know everyone here hates SSMB, TSS, and Reddit but sometimes those are the only places to talk about certain pieces of news or whatever. It sucks having people come in and derail every conversation on those sites with game grumps quotes. It's also slightly worrying because Mania and Forces are coming out soon. Having 4 million kids hear "Sanic is poopy ass dicks fuck this shit sanic was never good" from their idol once a day for a few months isn't going to help Sonic's image. Mania's audience is mainly older fans but Forces seems to be going after a wider audience, e.g. people who aren't already Sonic fans. It also doesn't help that Forces and Unleashed both feature Boost gameplay and Arin is already ripping it apart.

>>181661987
>sonic doesn't react appropriately to joystick movements half the time, if you anticipate a turn you're guaranteed to fuck up
That's literally not true, fuckhead. You have obviously not played the game. You just watched your gay little c-celebs play it for you.

>>181661897
>>181662162
i'm just surprised there's a sonic general is all. the games haven't been good in years. i didnt know there were actual fans outside of the mongoloids on deviantart and youtube.

>>181661792
Probably forever unless a major PR disaster occurs or the Grumps move out of Los Angeles. The latter is why they probably get so much focus, SoA is right by them.

>>181661883
>Arin literally played like shit
Of course he did, he's awful at games, but there are also plenty of problems with Adventure that don't help.
I specifically remember in Emerald Coast, on one of the loops if you're too far right you get sucked through the wall and die. Stuff like that.

>>181662313
The general has lived off the now dead comic books, autism, and the promise of good non-Boom games in the future. Mania is gonna be good, though.

>>181662313
>the games haven't been good in years
There hasn't been a non-Boom Sonic game in years.

>>181662569
>Mania is gonna be good, though.
doubt it. honestly I dont know how you even like any of these games at all. The genesis games are impossible to control and everything looks awful. I tried playing sonic 3 and honestly it was just a shitty experience all around. I watched people play it online and it didnt look much better. I just dont get you people.

are you sure its not all just nostalga?

>>181663062
Where in the 2000s were you born?

>>181663062
>everything looks awful
What DO you like?
That pixel art was top of the line back then.

>>181663062
Your bait is so old, it predates your own existence.

>>181663062
Anon, if you look around outside of 4chan, there's actually people who got into the series recently. So no, it's not nostalgia.

Anyway, we have shitty taste. What are your favorite series and games can you recommend me to look into instead?

Chip is an abomination of a character.

/baitg/
Welcome to the Bait General. Here we watch anons take obvious bait because they're autistic, retarded, braindead and more.

>>181663198
The one that ends with 15

>>181661897
>>181662162
>>181663198
>>181663243
>>181663296
Told you guys not to take the bait

But, I guess it keeps this general alive and doesn't reduce it to a slog

>>181663243
everything looks to blurry. Sonic doesnt stand out from the background enough. It would help if there were outlines like in the old super nintendo Mario games

>>181663247
it might be hard to believe but there are actually people who dont like the genesis Sonic games. Shocking I know

>>181663296
basically every core mario game, especially NSMB and 3D world. Bloodborne, Dark Souls, Mega Man, anything good essentially

>>181662162
>implying he's wrong about us

>>181663430
>>181663748
I frankly do not care, anons. I want to see what their response is and I will seek to it. I just got what I wanted and I'm done.

>>181663892
Speak for yourself.

>>181663748
its called discussion i would LIKE to have one. But i think 4chan after what i have seen is everything /I/ like is good and everything /You/ like is bad.

>>181664015
>everything /I/ like is good and everything /You/ like is bad.
Correct.
Now kill yourself.

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>>181645286
Emperor Metallix.

>>181663970
I'm speaking for you too. You can lie to me, but don't lie to yourself anon.

>>181664065
how about i find YOU and kill you that way both us fags die?
See how productive that was?

I come here wanting to have conversations, not go back and forth determining who should die because of opinions.

>>181664526
>that way both us fags die?
Worth it.

>>181663762
>>181663062
>>181662313
If you're wondering why & how a Sonic general exists, it's simple:

1) Love for the series. Some of it is nostalgia, some of it is love for a series they've just discovered, but overall there's an appreciation for the Sonic series. Whether's they were introduced through the comics, the tv shows, the Genesis, Adventure or even the Boost games, everyone here loves the series & we come here to discuss our enjoyment of the good & our hatred for the bad. There's also the characters, music & other things we've come to love over the years as well.

2) The shit we've made ourselves. From our drawfags, to our writefags, to our fangamefags like GHPAnon, the guy who made Bump in Sonic 1, /sthg/ has created a shit ton of content for us to enjoy. GHPAnon even released a devkit so we can make our own Sonic levels in the style we want, which is insane.

tldr; This general exists because we love Sonic, we love talking about it & we love making shit for us to enjoy. Honestly speaking, this general is one of my favorite places on 4chan. When people aren't shitposting at each other, there's great content, fun discussions & good times.

>>181664079
I can speak for myself. Just because I say most people don't know what autism means, doesn't mean I'm denying my actual diagnosis of it.

You should learn what it is too; and if you either have it or already know it then, then you should know better, anon.

>>181664614
look, go outside meditate, go for a run, listen to music on a park bench, or something. Just clear your head. The want to die is very indicative of lack of purpose.
Go on now, shoo.

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>>181664880
>lack of purpose.
Yes

>>181664765
That and other sonic fan sites like retro are too Walled Garden. So its either this or reddit, which is an Orwellian junk heap right now.

>>181665026
go find it then, i found out i am quite good at voice acting by running story lines out in my head, I love to run and climb things, swimming is good past time for me, and for those times i want to get my hands dirty, going to the mountains and hills and looking for cool rocks and crystals. You can find purpose.

>>181664803
>I can speak for myself.

I know, I'm speaking for you to say what you can't bring yourself to admit.

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Hi, /sthg/. Whatcha playing?

>>181657226
I a-actually like Wii version. Trying to archive the highest number of action chains and seeing Sonic spindashing randomly were some of the best memories I had with the game. I also prefer the way it handled boost.

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>>181665085
There's always SSMB.

Jokes aside, this is really the only place I'd want to talk about Sonic. Everywhere else is either dead or suffering a fate worse than death - filled with 13 year old rp'ers.
Retro seems cool but I wouldn't get in because I don't know shit

Sonic Unleashed is a shitty game. All versions ofit.

>>181665503
exactly what i mean its way to walled garden, too elitist. They don't just let anyone who is a fan in.
Gotta have a talent THEY want or else go else where.

>>181665335
Anon... even in my sentence I just admitted that I was autistic. Let alone other times where I admit I was autistic but I don't expect people to remember that.

>doesn't mean I'm denying my actual diagnosis of it.

Read the whole thing instead of justifying your ignorance.

>>181665421
Not playing anything currently anon. What about you?

>>181665642
Eh, the way I see it, Retro just have a specific topic they're dedicated to (ie hacking/development etc.) and they have the application process precisely because they don't want 13 year old rp'ers shitting up the place, so I can't blame them.

>>181665507
There Werehog was such a disaster, I wonder how things would have went if it wasn't a thing and we just had the day stages.

>>181665801
Sorry, I didn't actually read your post.

>>181665904
I could forgive Retro if they didn't already have no-talent people who just want to do discussion there, AND kids shitting up the place. They didn't adopt that elitist policy until recently (circa 4 years ago), but made no effort to purge any of the users who don't contribute, so they look like hypocritical assholes as a result.

It'd also be easier to forgive them if they made it crystal clear up front that it was an elitist community dedicated to hacking and development instead of pretending it's just like any other Sonic forum.

>>181665421
Playing SA2 at the moment.
Just got to the part where Sonic makes Shadow eat his words.

>>181665904
It would be a very short and boring game.

>>181665421
I can't even imagine how much of a massive nintendrone you'd have to be to play the wii version of Unleashed.

>>181666269
They've had that policy for a lot longer than 4 years, I tried to get in after Sonic 2 HD started, but long before it had a public demo (so around 2008-9)
but didn't get very far out of the "make your case for membership" area, so yea.

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>>181666636
Short, true, but the actual Sonic stages in Unleashed were the best they've been over the boost games. Makes me wonder if it would have been ravaged regardless because of the 06 disaster.

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Otani's sound column's translated. Some tidbits:

>Vocals will be in every Avatar stage!

>Also, multiple singers, male and female, are participating!

Otani on Forces' music

>In contrast to the rock sound of Modern Sonic’s music, the Avatar stages' music has drum and bass/EDM-based, dance-like music as the main concept. With this, the coolness and euphoria that are characteristic of dance music, which are different from live band songs, can be expressed. Since it's a customizable character, I thought music that structured by combining different parts would fit, so I decided on that direction. Vocal part is not a full chorus, but adds in as fragments.

>Your impression of my music for the Sonic series might be fresh, high-speed pop or rock, for example, Endless Possibility or Rooftop Run. It's no wonder, since I made lots of music like that in my last work, Sonic Runners.

>However, I love techno/house/hip hop/drum and bass/dubstep/EDM and dance music, and I had been intensively creating such sounds for a very long time. I think all of the demo tapes I submit to Sega as an assignment for new employees included such music… Meaning,the soundtrack this time includes everything in my drawer!

>The Avatar is a resistance member who rose up from the general citizens, so this character is scared of being in a fight. Even then, one summons up his own courage and stands up against the enemy – the lyrics describes that mindset and, at the same time, tells the player to cheer up.

>The concept of stage music is different for each game. For example, in Sonic Lost World, I concentrated on expressing the "sound" of the level theme (grass field, desert, ocean, snow and so on) and the playful rhythm with the music. A light and casual soundtrack, you could say.

>On the other hand, for ‘Sonic Forces’ I am composing while having the story’s flow and the characters’ minds in my thought. Overall, the music is finalized in heroic and dramatic, heavy and large-scaled tone.

>>181666791
I own both versions and enjoy both for different reasons.

>>181667228
Presumably you play the Wii version because you're a nintendrone in denial.

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>>181667126
>The Avatar is a resistance member who rose up from the general citizens, so this character is scared of being in a fight.

pls no bully the Buddy

>>181667126
>dubstep

>>181667639
But if they said they played the PS2 version and liked it, then it would be okay?

>>181667126
While this is still relevant, have a MIDI of Park Avenue on me. Do whatever you wish with it, idgaf as it's basically finished.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4id_0-hJbTSTEFJNEVGWjV2THc

>>181667126
Sounds neat. I'm glad the idea of Buddy being an ordinary citizen is the case.

>>181667126
I'm down for the drum and bass. Not so much the EDM, synthy sort of stuff though.

>>181668040
The Wii version IS the PS2 version, but no one plays that version because there's no reason to. The reason people play the Wii version is because they're nintendrones.

>>181667126
If I hear any dubstep I'm gonna fucking flip

>>181668195
So are you saying that the PS2 version is better because it's not on a Nintendo console?
I'd want to hear you talk about the game, not the console.

>>181667978
>>181668227
What's wrong with dubstep?

>>181668459
I'm saying they're exactly the same (i.e. they're both shit), and the only difference between the two is a nintendo logo on the front on one of them.

IF YOU BELIEVE IN SONIC DON'T BOTHER TO CHOOSE

IF IT'S GENERATIONS OR ADVENTURE AND BOOM

JUST GO AND PLAY 'EM IT WILL START WITH A SMILE

THAT WON'T WIPE OFF YOUR FACE NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY

>>181667126
Hmm I'm all for motivational music but no wonder I feel so divided about the music; it's practically alphabet soup.

>>181667126
>... Since it's a customizable character, I thought music that structured by combining different parts would fit, so I decided on that direction. Vocal part is not a full chorus, but adds in as fragments.
I don't know how to feel about this. I was hoping we'd get like full songs for these stages. I was also hoping we'd get at least one vocal song for Sonic but it's not looking that way.

>>The Avatar is a resistance member who rose up from the general citizens, so this character is scared of being in a fight. Even then, one summons up his own courage and stands up against the enemy – the lyrics describes that mindset and, at the same time, tells the player to cheer up.
Interesting. I was thinking he would just be a "you're supposed to project your feelings onto him/her!" kind of character or a even more generic version of Classic Sonic. I know stories/character development/etc. have never been a strong point of these games but I'm actually looking forward to having a "weak" character if this is the case. Most Sonic characters don't afraid of anything and walk right into danger without batting an eye. Even the younger ones like Cream and Amy. It's nice to see a character who might actually be scared of Eggman and his robots for once

>On the other hand, for ‘Sonic Forces’ I am composing while having the story’s flow and the characters’ minds in my thought. Overall, the music is finalized in heroic and dramatic, heavy and large-scaled tone.
really looking forward to this. These are always my favorite tracks in these games

>>181668549
Apart from it being a dead fad, it sounds like trash my man.

whats with the save file switch?

What's the state of Utopia? Are the devs still working on it? I tried searching sonic retro but didn't see anything.

>>181645615
>tfw been so busy with life that I couldn't find time to worry about some virtual character from a Tajikistanese bread grating board
>tfw I have disappointed Bump

>>181667780
Buddy is gonna die.

>>181669327
And Sonic is going to go Dark Sonic and kill Eggman! Wow!

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Why is Sonic Team so dumb? Haven't they done Shadow enough injustice already?

>>181669181
It's a tech demo for god's sakes, it's not a real fangame. It's just a demonstration of what the engine can do, and frankly I think it pales horribly next to HedgePhysics.

>>181669737
I wouldn't be surprised if they think fans just like him better as a villain.

>>181669737
He worked better as a villain anyways. Besides, he's one of the few non-Eggman villains people care about

>>181669737
Shadow hasn't done anything useful in the main series since '06. Let's just see what they come up with this time

Can someone post that one picture of Buddy standing against the wall looking scared and Sonic in front of him looking like he's going to punch Buddy

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>>181669737
>yfw they're just there to cheer Sonic on like in Gens
>"WARRGARBLE"
>"01110101001101"
>"YUUV GAT DIS, SANK"
>"I am a terrible character and shouldn't be in this game"

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I wanna fuck this Wolf.

Seeing as Forces is the first "serious" Sonic game since 06, and Iizuka said he is aiming to recapture the feel of the Adventure games, what are the odds of a character being killed off, ala' Silver and Shadow in the past games?

Could be one of the villains, or perhaps a good character sacrificing themselves. I'm honestly thinking Iizuka is intending to shock people by having a character die, but my money is on Zavok if it happens tbqh

>>181670909
There's 0 chance sadly. It's still for kids dontcha know, and any consequences of the story will be undone in the end because status quo is god. Shame too, I'd love to see someone killed, like Cream. That'd be a real gut punch too, having a building fall on her or something

>>181670909
If falling into molten lava didn't kill Zavok then I don't know what will.
Personally my money is on a Disney death, either Tails or Avatar.

>>181670802
he needs to be bullied

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This man conceived a storyline in which a sentient, organic creature convinces itself that it is a robot copy.

>>181671083
Well Shadow was killed of for "real" in SA2, that was only undone because of fan demand to bring him back in future games. If Iizuka is truly aiming to recapture the feel of the Adventure games, I could see him repeating such an ending.

>Cream
Please no, that would hurt me real bad, it would be unjust as fuck, and she's my favorite, so pls no.

>>181671134
>Avatar
This is what I was thinking. Heroic sacrifice, and a reason why your character is never seen again in future games, so they can have new Custom Characters. (Or drop the feature altogether)

>Tails
I can't see this ever happening because Sonic & Tails traveling together as buddies is kind of the unbreakable status quo. But I have seen lots of people semi-jokingly talking about Tails dying in the game Where exactly does that idea come from?

>>181671214
That actually sounds pretty interesting and I have no idea what story you're talking about.

>>181671214
Technically the true ending of the game ignores that, and Iizuka himself supposedly said the true Hero path is the canon one.

Also the android story is the neutral path, which has a 3-mission-long revenge bro-op with Shadow/Omega chasing Eggman, storming his base, and then fucking killing him. I don't care what anybody says, this is fucking badass.

>>181671424
Man imagine how pissed off people will be if their OC is killed off permanently. I know I'd be pretty sad if I got invested into the Avatar I created only for them to die at the end.
Furthermore, how would the ending handle that kind of death? Are we getting a full on funeral or is Sonic going to privately scatter their ashes into the river?

>>181670909
Nah. To be honest, there's no real point in killing a character off since they'll likely be brought back by fan demand anyways, ala Shadow.

Besides, when Iizuka said they want to recapture the feeling of the Adventure games, he seems to make sure it doesn't go too dark, like Shadow or 06.

>>181671502
It's the neutral path of Shadow the Hedgehog. Eggman convinces Shadow that he is no different to the rest of the Shadow Androids, and taking this pathway ends with Shadow never finding out that is isn't one of them.

The true ending to the game has Eggman confess that Shadow is real, Eggman salvaged him after SA2 and brought him back to life to use as the basis to reproduce an army of ultimate lifeforms.

>>181671716
>Furthermore, how would the ending handle that kind of death?

>Sonic picks up a cosmetic Buddy wore
>Puts it on
>Starts running
>Credits roll

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>>181671798

>>181671798
Oh fuck

I would unironically love this

>>181671716
A small speech about how brave he was and that's all.

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>>181671798
>Sonic puts on Buddy's over-sized glasses & starts running

>>181671716
>>181671798
>>181672020
Guys, don't worry. Buddy will be brought back to life like Shadow. Making the entire emotional moment of his "death" redundant.

>>181671598
>>181671502
Any story like that is batshit retarded. All Shadow has to do is poke himself with a needle and if he bleeds, boom, he's Mobian. If he were a clone, it would make more sense, but then he'd have no reason to lead a robot rebellion and team up with Omega.

>>181672165
>takes them off because they were prescription glasses and it fucks up his vision
>throws it in a pile with chip's bracelet

>>181672389
>Mobian

>>181672390
>Implying he wouldn't just sell them for rings like he did with Chip's bracelet
More money for chili dogs or to give to others

>>181672261
>buddy was a robot all along
>buddy androids

>>181672479
A chili dog is worth way more than a memory of a dead friend.

>>181672573
Certainly worth more than the memory of someone you knew for maybe a week. And unlike Shadow, Sonic's been alive longer

>>181672565
>Shadow the Hedgehog: Buddy Edition is released.
>Theme is "Here we go buddy!" from I Am All Of Me playing in a loop.

Sega has been playing a long game.

>>181672445
Oh sorry, should I say Sonic's Worldian?

>>181671716
They'll make rings from our ashes.

>>181672776
Just organic will do.

>>181672871
Just shitty friends will be better.

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>>181672817
>We are Diamond Hogs

>>181671424
I highly doubt Buddy will die. There's no reason for him to. He's not special like Shadow or Chip. Shadow was the ultimate life form fulfilling a promise to his dead best friend. Chip was just taking his place as light gaia. Buddy is just some rando who decided to fight back against Eggman. He's commendable, but not exactly special. I think at the end of the game, he's going to part ways with Sonic and just go home. He's a normal guy and not some wandering superhero like Sonic after all.

>>181672817
>>181673356
STANDING

>>181672389
Well in heroes, all those androids appeared to be partially made of flesh. Even in the Shadow game, the androids look like Shadow, not like Metal Sonic or whatever.

The multiplayer mode even had actual robotic Shadows to play as.

So Shadow would need more than just blood to prove he is real, he would need a full examination or x-ray or some shit, something to prove he has actual organs. Given how old he is, he might not even know such technology exists.

>>181673501
OW THE EDGE

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Which one of you is this? it has to be one of you because he shows up in nearly every sonic thread on /v/

>>181673524
Considering in the real world how to use x-rays to see inside the body was figured out around 120 years ago and the tech to create shit like the ARK has existed in Sonic's world at least 50 years ago I think it's safe to assume Shadow knows about x-rays.

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Takashi "Get seduced by boost" Iizuka
Takashi "Boost2win is not a sin" Iizuka
Takashi "Sonic 4: Physics Galore" Iizuka
Takashi "Green Hill overkill" Iizuka

>>181673996

Takashi "2 Worlds is Not Enough" Iizuka

>>181673996
Takashi "I like Mario more than Sonic" Iizuka

>>181673996
Takashi "Mario's the best, fuck the rest" Iizuka

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>>181674134
>>181674210
It has to rhyme, you stupid fucks.

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>>181673793
>reconstruct /sthg/
Do faggots from /v/ honestly plan on coming in here & changing /sthg/?

>>181673996
Takashi "Got a load of flak? Let's bring it back" Iizuka

>>181674323
Tell that to Iizuka.

>>181673996
Takashi "Don't get mad, it's just a boost pad" Iizuka

>>181674508
Yes, we're going to make theses threads great again by kicking out the modernfags,the boomfags and the comicfags once Mania proves us right!

>plays the worst version of Unleashed just so he can have an excuse to shit on it
Arin is honestly a disgusting person. I wouldn't even mind his opinions on Sonic much if he just played them, say, chronologically. But he keeps deliberately going out of his way to play the bad ones to try and prove his retarded point.

>>181667126
Just... who the fuck asked for this...

>>181674787
Can we kick out the classic fags as well? Seriously, kicking out all of these groups will improve /sthg/ 10000 fold.

>>181674846
I did

>>181674787
You don't have the balls

>>181674787
>>181674893

Don't forget the Advance and Rushfags. They've had it good for too long.

>>181673996
Takashi "It's definitely new, not Generations 2" Iizuka

>>181674787
What if we get rid of Sonicfags?

>>181674810
He's not going to stop being a shitter so there's no point getting angry about it. Get mad at Aaron for encouraging his shit.

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>>181675085
Don't get mad that those are a great series of games.

>>181675303
As much as I like Rush, the bottomless pits were ridiculous.

>>181673996
Takashi "No Chao for you, fucking weeaboo" Iizuka

>>181673793
Assuming the comic is dead, /sthg/ will be dead a few months after Forces drops anyway. /sthg/ can't survive another major drought without something to fill the gap.

>>181675545
>something to fill the gap.

How about autism? Plenty of generals survive on that without any actual new thing in their series to talk about.

>>181675545
I'm guessing a spinoff game will be announced for next year or something, given that the movie is delayed until 2019.

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>>181665801
>Not playing anything currently anon. What about you?
I recently download and played a bit of Kirby's Blowout Blast. Quite a good little game with huge resemblance from the first game, which I like it.
Now I will play Rush and finally end it. Extra will be TOO BLACK TOO STRONG great to play and end it all.

>>181666470
If you don't mind me bugging you, I could recommend you a mod that remaps the Light-Dash to another button. It's great for avoiding unintentionally slow spins.

>>181666791
For your information, I first played Unleashed on PS3 then on Wii and finished both of them. I still like Wii version even if PS3 holds better graphics and has longer content. I never had a PS2.

>>181673793
I remember some mouths ago seeing some anon here always posting that /sthg/ should not allow comic discussion or something similar. It could be the same anon.
Nevertheless, it can't be me, because I have stopped browsing /v/ since a year ago, which I'm glad I made this decision, by the way.

>>181675085
What's wrong with me?

>>181673996
Takashi "No friends, the end " Iizuka.
Takashi "Sonic's glory doesn't need a story" Iizuka.
Takashi "Might? Fang? They're not part of the gang!" Iizuka.

>>181675545
Maybe we can make our own content to enjoy in the meantime?

What's the biggest dick move they could pull with Forces? Things that will make everyone legit mad.

>>181675610
tell that to /blaz/, oh right, you can't because zarcanon finally killed them and absorbed the remains into /fgg/

>>181673996
Takashi "Adventure 3? You're kidding me!" Iizuka

>>181675768
If it's as short as Generations.

>>181675545
>Comicfags still believe this.

>>181675768
Arin has a cameo in the game.

>>181675768
It has 06 controls.

>>181672776
Shadow is an illegal alien.

>>181675768
If all the returning stages are from Generations (Green Hill, Chemical Plant and Sky Sanctuary specifically)

>>181675768
More classic stages.
Bonus points if they're the same as in Mania.

>>181673996

Takashi "Mighty and Ray? We don't need those gays." Iizuka

>>181675768
Make Shadow a bad guy

>>181675768
Not being able to turn off the radio, but something tells me it's going to be there just because of story purposes. Hopefully they won't repeat on when playing a level again.

Also this >>181675949 >>181675972 Chemical Plant is more or less confirmed to show up.

>>181675727
I love you

>>181675768
As much 2D as Colors.

>>181673996
Takashi "3&K was best? Surely you jest" Iizuka

>>181675768
Release it.

>>181676117
I'm just hoping that Knuckles and co. are at Chemical Plant taking care of business, meaning you never have to go there in-game.

>>181676584

>Looks like Knuckles got tricked again! Better go to the Chemical Plant and knock some sense into him.

>>181676584
That is exactly what it sounded like to me.

>Oh Silver is at Chemical Plant? That's a neat reference and worldbuilding, and explains why I am alone here fighting this crab.

I have NO idea why everybody thought that dialogue somehow meant that Chemical Plant was a confirmed location. If a bunch of characters are already saving it, why would Buddy need to go there?

Oh, OBVIOUSLY its just set up for them all to be shown captured/defeated, and Buddy goes to save them!..... Nah. It just didn't sound like that to me, it sounded entirely like a nice reference. We just got chemical plant in Generations AND Mania. It doesn't have Green Hill Status, it's not going to be in Forces.

>>181676728
>"Knuckles, nobody stole your loot. Turns out the Master Emerald was in your back pocket all along."

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>>181677009

>Sonic Team
>world building

>>181675834
That's the biggest dick move you can think of?

>>181677009
>Oh, OBVIOUSLY its just set up for them all to be shown captured/defeated, and Buddy goes to save them!
How else is the OC going to show it's cool?

>>181676584
Here's what I see it as
>Oh, Silver and co are trying to take care of it, that means I have to go there once they inevitably fail

>>181677167
No, but it's a realistic one.

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>>181677153
>>181673996
Takashi "Lore is for whores" Iizuka

>>181677009
From seeing all the levels we've got so, it appears Green Hill is the Avatar's second stage, which I'm guessing will occur after Classic GHZ and the boss.
It's not farfetched that things could go awry at the Chemical Plant, leading Knuckles to desperately call the rookie back to save him and the others.

>>181675768
Making Buddy go Super regardless of the species picked, with Iizuka explaining some bullshit why it should make sense.

>>181677431
Sonic's a cute animal

>>181677476
As I said, that seems to be what everyone is assuming from the dialogue. And while it's not impossible, I honestly think the dialogue sounded more like a neat reference, rather than set-up for the next level

>>181677585
It'd be hilarious at that point if some schmo off the street went super before Amy could.

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>>181673356

>>181675874
kek

>>181675874
>comic drops
>Overall quality of General does down

True, the comics are easily up for debate on how good they are, but it at least kept discussion on track.
The past few months have been hell for /sthg/. Sparkposting, shitposting, Shadow shouldn't care, Sonic is a dick, Boom should die etc etc.
Shitty officially licensed fan-fiction kept us going. What if we have another drought in between Mania/Forces and the next game? We're gon' die out or watch ourselves become worst general.
Who am I kidding, we're becoming dbz general long before we die.

>>181673996
I just think it's weird because this is the same man that's played such a big role in the Adventure games, Heroes, Shadow and 06. You'd think that he'd stop the bullshit that was Boom, you'd think he'd stop the shitty twitter account, you'd think he wouldn't be responsible for the dumbing down of the franchise since 2010. Doesn't it occur to him that he's butchering the fuck out of this franchise for people who don't care about it to begin with? Why can't he just pander to real fans like me? Fuck everyone else.
I legitimately want to sit down and have a talk with this man.

>>181679039
>The past few months have been hell for /sthg/. Sparkposting, shitposting, Shadow shouldn't care, Sonic is a dick, Boom should die etc etc.
I'm a comicfag, and I've been here since the start and yes, things have gone down in quality, but don't think for a second this hasn't been a thing since mid-2015. One group of shitposts has been replaced by others

>>181679039
We're already worst general.

>>181675768
One of the Game Grumps voices a character or has a cameo. Barry was on one of the official streams recently. Aaron sent all those cupcakes to Arin. He always tweets to GG all the time. I wouldn't be surprised if something happens, though I really hope nothing does.

The game gets rushed towards the end to meet that holiday release deadline. It's not as glitchy as Sonic 06 or Sonic Boom but it's clear that none of the higher ups gave a shit

The game actually has an incredibly lighthearted tone, even moreso than Colors and Lost World despite all the interviews saying otherwise

The PC version gets cancelled at the last minute for no reason

>>181679237
Because you'll buy it regardless of what's done to it, so they pander to people that don't usually buy Sonic games to make more money on top of your already guaranteed money.

>>181679660
I didn't buy Lost World, I didn't buy any of the Boom games, I didn't buy Sonic 4. Those games all fucking sucked balls.

>>181680209
Quit lying anon.

>>181677431
I only just realized that's the Sonic Advance pose. Damn Generations is full of little subtle references.

>>181680301
I know this is bait, but fuck off. Those games are fucking shit and a fucking insult to the franchise.

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>there are people in this general who think something like Casino or Carnival Night zone are better stages than Bingo Highway

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>>181679237
I agree, this man doesn't understand which direction he's taken this series in (or chooses to ignore it) and as a result the series has no proper identity as well as a very fractured fanbase. Speaking of which, he has no idea what a lot of fans want judging from his reaction to the Mania reveal. I don't hate him nor do I want to blame all this on one man, but as it stands he is stirring the shitpot.

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>>181680209
I bought Sonic 4

>>181680625
They're better stages simply because their games have solid pinball physics, which Adventure and Heroes do not have at all.

>>181680924
It just annoys me, because the man is capable of making good games. It's like he's fucking frightened to do so nowadays though. That's why we keep getting shit game after shit game, bad decisions after bad decisions.
"How long is this gonna go on?"~Sonic the Hedgehog

>>181673908
>>181672389
It's also worth noting that Shadow is a creation in general.
Even if he's organic wouldn't mean he's not Synthetic.
Chaos is made out of living water but it'd be pretty hard to decide whether or not you'd consider him "organic"

>>181681236
Heroes pinball wouldn't be so bad if the camera would actually adjust to a traditional pinball view instead of still following the character.

>>181681236
>>181681702
You're in the pinball sections for such a little amount of time anyway, if you're not trash at the game that is.

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I KEEP HEARING MASSIVE EXPLOSIONS OUTSIDE.
WTF IS GOING ON /STHG/.

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>>181681870
Yeah, like if I will fall for it.

>>181681870
People are launching fireworks to celebrate their independence.

>>181681870
They're shooting fireworks retard.

>>181681870
Why don't you go outside, Sonic. It'll be fine.

>>181681870
TURN ON THE NEWS, THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING DUDE

HIDE UNDER YOUR BED

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>>181682012
>>181682020

>>181681870
Anon...

But to be fair, some of the "massive explosions" spook me out and they're super loud.

>>181679237
I'm really curious about how he really feels about where the franchise has gone and is headed to, and what was his part in that. I obviously don't believe what he says in interviews and other PR events, but I can't help but wonder if he really believes he's taken the right decisions, or if he regrets them, or if he had no other choices because of upper management decisions or other causes.

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>>181682048
I CAN'T.
THERE'S EXPLOSIONS OUT THERE.

>>181681870
WW3. Buckle up, faggot. Russia has had enough.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sonic-The-Hedgehog-10th-Anniversary-Gold-Coin-Set-Sega-Dreamcast-/172764357170?hash=item28398ee232:g:OfsAAOSwhvFZBic6

Link related reminds me the time I got sniped hard for it for $28 while other were selling it for $35-$60 And then someone found another one for me and I bought it for $24.

>>181682605
OH FUCK. I didn't know those were that cheap. I want pretty bad.

>>181682605
Lol I bought that a year ago

>>181682846
I think that was the time I got mine; at least 6 months ago at least.

>>181682789
The current most expensive I see right now is two sealed yet dusty for $75+shipping.

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Hey there Pimps, Playas & Pain Purveyors , it's your favorite pimp's favorite pimp's pimp! Now usually I don't do this...but y'all need to chill tha fuck out. I mean y'all getting two, not one, TWO games! I mean shiiit, ya boy ain't getting no chedder from SEGA. Who's getting love? Let's see, Blue boy, them Yazkuza guys getting it and that Valkryia bitch. But she got them titties, so I ain't mad. Hell, that OG, Wonder Boy getting a cut!!

I mean, shit, y'all getting something. Where's the love for the Baron who is FAR too black for this shit? Anyhow, y'all better than this! I mean, look at Capcom! SFV & MvCI is pissing everyone off and they still ain't got no Mega Man on deck! And it's his 30th!! So be thankful, be happy and enjoy y'allsleves! Remember: Don't get Ridiculed, Get Rid of Fools! Now if y'all excuse me: Mathilda! Where's daddy's money?!

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While this one is startling, I really like looking at animation cels or any WIP/hidden content. Containing a piece of history seems really nice.

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>>181684789
That's a rather unusual and different face. Looks like he had more detail on its facial features before his debut, such as his eyebrows and how he had iris on his eyes.
And he had gloves and boots. That's funny, considering he wasn't wearing any gloves or boots for a long time until after the reboot.

>>181669836
Utopia made good models, animations, music and nailed the green hill aesthetic as well as having great physics and a clear, autistically honed vision of what they want for Sonic. That's more than I'm seeing with HedgePhysics.

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>>181685515

>>181681236
I didn't mind the pinball physics in Adventure because they never really endanger you in any way. It was also quicker/more fun to purposefully lose so you could go through the garbage chute to get the needed rings.

The pinball physics in Heroes were frustrating because they're unavoidable and can send you to your death. When you expect to be launched upwards, sometimes you get launched in an arc instead, sending you flying off the pinball board. You also can't see where you're going sometimes because the camera angle changes. At least with Adventure it's fixed and zoomed out.

>>181685515
You haven't even watched satam? you walrus waifu faggot

>>181686289
He hasn't watched SatAM, not has he even read the comics.

Some husbando.

>>181686289
He's a shitter that hasn't seen the show or read the comic. He's a fucking disgrace.

>>181685515
I personally didn't watch or follow the show enough to recognize the large differences with some of the characters. I seen some of Bunnie Rabbot's before along with a couple of minor characters but I didn't put them together.

One day I'll try to watch and read everything, even again but I have a feeling I'd just forget most if not all of it again.

>>181687865
>watching or reading garbage
>disgrace

Then again this general is full of people that play garbage.

>>181688191
Dumb meme

>>181688086
We're all garbage, anon.

So why exactly are the comics so beloved?
Just give me a reason to get me interested in them.

>>181688341
In general, they do more with the games cast and setting than the games do (reboot continuity does this,mostly) while also having some original characters and settings.

>>181688341
Ian showed up early 2006 when the games started really going to shit, and made the comics much better in terms of being action-adventure comics with fun and interesting but not overly complicated characters. With so many game characters getting completely shafted since 06, the comics became a really good source of really good characterization and fun moments for fans of other characters, and pretty much single-handedly salvaged some characters like Silver.

>>181688341
People mostly like the characters, interactions & stories. Personally I didn't really get into the comics heavily until the reboot, but the reboot had a lot of fun stories & allowed characters who are normally put to the side some time to really shine. Also featured some of my favorite versions of Knuckles, Amy, Eggman etc. Basically >>181688503

https://youtu.be/qGdSNs2kQ24

>>181688228
?

>>181688503
So if I don't really care for the characters, I shouldn't bother? Or is there something that is really great about them that I shouldn't be missing?

>>181688341
>OC donut steels.
>Everyone is out of character and therefore "fixed".
>SatAM junk.
>Not being like Sonic half the time.
>Waifufaggotry.
>Memes.
>Literal who character appearing.
>Eggman is edgy.

This is all I really hear out of the fans for why they like the comic.

>>181688662
Team Chaotix was perfect in Heroes. Mighty doesn't need to nor should he come back. He's a dumb meme.

>>181688921
Mighty doesn't need to be involved with Team Chaotix to come back.

>>181688704
Maybe, but I still suggest giving them a try & seeing for yourself.

>>181688921
>>181688986
Wait anons, all they did was post a picture. They didn't say anything, let alone bringing the character back.

>>181689295
No see, 'Mighty is a meme' is a meme in itself. If he screeches enough it'll catch on.

>>181689295
When you post Mighty; It means you are a fan, and when you are a fan; It means you want him to come back.