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/mggg/ - Monster Girl Games General #137

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Nothing suspicious here Edition

This general is for the discussion of games containing Monster Girls, main game of discussion is Monster Girl Quest, but people are encouraged to introduce new games.

News:
Monster Girl Quest Paradox 2 is out.
Some guy called Rogue has started helping with the Paradox translation process.
UI Patch for Part 2 will be released sometime this year!


How to use the latest non-patch Paradox translation: https://pastebin.com/a0VDpMji
(HAVE FUN WAITING TWO YEARS FOR CORE PLOT POINTS OF PART TWO)

Monster Girl Quest Paradox 2 download: https://mega.nz/#!PI1WiAKZ!exKwDBYVhJ8QK1w3b9M4XCipjv5GgDSyHZ5d_wrlo2w (or check the MGQ pastebin for a torrent)
2.01 Update: https://mega.nz/#!KQElTZqb!L9PpVMpNnqsaAd6uGemKfXJMFazpP4-ALhCAwrHu1xM
Rough Guide: https://pastebin.com/yKjNkSME (WIP) (Also, obviously spoilers)

Monster Girl Quest (MGQ): http://pastebin.com/CGWN0k1u
Monster Girl Island (3D game): http://monstergirlisland.com/
Mobile games with Monster Girls: http://pastebin.com/NFaxEGib
Zell’s game Forest of Blue Skin: http://pastebin.com/hqc0JYhJ
Quest Failed: https://frostworks.itch.io/quest-failed
The Dungeon of Lulu Farea: Kill,Screw, Marry!: https://mega.nz/#!JmI2VDpT!KalSjtfGiwX0SmIhlFT-Y08DKf2jUkDltOba0flsqJ0

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SETOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUCHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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ITS LAZARUS!
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>>181661682
I literally linked a download link to 2.02 last thread;

http://www.mediafire.com/file/lgo1k9cf78gwf7g/MGQP2_2.02.7z
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>>181661682
Who dis grill?
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nth for slim
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>>181662025
Just a wandering magician. Nothing special
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>Angel world is horrible
>Monster world is terrible
Alice I and Ilias gave us no choice. We must fight against both of them under the banner of the true third god.
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Hey guys I'm from League of Legends general, can someone tell me the name of this catgirl? I don't see her in the game.
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>>181661940
>look mom I posted it again
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>>181662089
Just a simple traveler passing through.
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>>181662224
>catgirl
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>>181662224
Looks like an older/more developed version of Kamuro. She's a Kitsune though.
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>>181662278
Just a traveling gourmet.
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I still can't get into the castle to speak with the queen right after getting the boat, the guards keep sending me away
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>>181662224
She's a kon kon. Not a nyan nyan. Her name is right there.
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>>181662224
Looks like Kamuro, the kitsune.
>lewding her
>you truly are scum.jpg
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>>181662921
>Not lewding kamuro
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>>181662480
You need to recruit sara.
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>>181662696
>>181662735
boi
Neris is clearly an atypical case from most monsters, even setting aside Alice's master race pussy. Her "normal" appearance resembles a succubus but lacks the horns. Alice doesn't even have a succubus race, why would Neris??

This is a moot point, the original question was if she had the archfiend and demonoid races and she obviously does... she has a fuckton of races obviously human is one one of them
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>>181663115
Kamuro is a pure maiden focused on achieving mastery of taoism, not a random, cheap slut.
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>>181663897
Neris will be able to switch to human. Most likely she has both human and monster blood like Nero. It's just that her monster blood is stronger, that's why she's like her mother.
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>>181663897
>alice doesn't have succ race
Neither does Sphinx but that's where Sara gets her monster blood from.
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>you lived to see eden become number one
I'm so proud of her.
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>>181663897
>>181664465
Personally I can see it going both ways.

On the one hand, I understand that it really doesn't make sense for Neris to be a special exception. But on the other hand, she is part of a set of twins with a male born to a monster girl so that itself seems like a special exception.

But anyway, here's what sways me to the Neris has access to human camp. Though this is very theoretical.

First off, let's get the races out of the way. Majin(human) requires Human, Fallen Angel, and Yoma Noble. Majin(god) requires Majin and 森羅万象士 which I don't know how to translate very well. (Omnimage? I dunno whatever) but it's the top tier class that requires all the high tier mage jobs and Nero can access this. So far so good.

But here's where it gets interesting. ABOVE Majin(god) there is a race called "Chaos" that requires mastered Majin(God) and an unknown class that is currently not present in the data. However, this data is right below the Mahou Shoujo class which would imply that requires the top tier version of Mahou Shoujo. Granted there are 2 Slots under it which means there would have to be 2 different top tier classes of mahou shoujo so there's room for this to be wrong, but I can't imagine what else you could fit there.

Now... would Nero have access to Mahou Shoujo? I kind of doubt it. So then that would make the Chaos class inaccessible to him. What's the point of it then?

That's where Neris comes in
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>>181665136
Perhaps monster genes aren't inherited but the dark energy, which is random in how it manifests in a given person.
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>>181665495
>she comes with no clothes equipped because shes naked
its the little things
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>>181666027
>give her the archangel bra
>she gets no bonuses
harsh trtr
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>>181665558
>chaos race has access to skimpy clothes
It's either Neris's or Adramalech's/Sonya's if they get a better race to use.
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>>181666109
>give Lazarus the salamander buff
>he dies when it's over
too far trtr
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>>181665558
Okay I screwed up. I could have sworn I remember mahou shoujo being inaccessible to males but I was wrong. I just wasted your fucking time
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>>181666523
>forgetting the party almost forcing Luka to be a magical girl
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>>181666523
Still though!

That's 3 fucking classes with some steep requirements! I would be very surprised if they created a race tree that goes this deep just for fucking Nero and Nero alone. There's gotta be someone else who can take advantage of it
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>>181665737
Or that succubus is the easiest monster a human can be converted to, since this is a tradition in succubus village.
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>>181666109
Naturally, you don't just hide Eden's eden and get a benefit.
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How exactly do you get the apoptosis race change item?
seesaawiki tells you to use he Remina alt. card key on the door in the Tartarus west of Succubus Village alt.

Is it in the silver/platinum chest past the wooden door in the castle area or is there a second door I'm not seeing?
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>>181666353
>make frederika a makina master
>she becomes a fucking tank
based trtr
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>forgetting to put the 2.02 update in the OP post
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Well that only took FOREVER but we good now.
So here is (the first of many) Cecil Mod V2!!!
https://mega.nz/#F!1m4AgaAR!2ZjhnVEEFfZN13ejaRWXgg

The addition of new content isn't as much as i'd have liked but I'd rather get it in your hands now. Plus there's always the much awaited Cecil transformation. I did a quick play test which seemed to work fine but message if you run into any problems.
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>>181667702
Very good based Cecil mod guy now can you also revert the draconian buff nerfs so that high level play can rely on tactics instead of stat fluff
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>>181667121
Threadly reminder!
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>>181667943
first she kills lukas aunt
then his unborn kids
Is there no end to her bloodlust
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Are we still ages away from having all the h material translated from part 1? I'm never going to spend hours grinding my way through the game, I just want to play something like the encyclopaedia from the VN. Last I saw there was a library mode where a few things were translated, and the castle with request scenes which were sometimes translated. Any progress on this, and is there a way to battle enemies whenever you want like in the VN??
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>>181668252
yah
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>>181667846
So you want to only raise your stats temporarily through using the same skills every single time instead of raising your stats permanently?
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>>181667846
Stacking buffs until you're nigh untouchable and can hit with the force of a nuke is tactics?
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>>181667943
Counter Reminder Doesn't happen in game but the CG exsists
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>>181667846

>Throwing every single possible buff on and killing the boss in a single attack is high level play
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>>181670659
Oh, it'll happen.
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>>181671026
Just like Chrome's extra scenes right? Or the battlefuckers?
;_;
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>>181671436
https://pastebin.com/4qzn7cGT
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I hate vore so fucking much
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>>181671620
http://exhentai.org/g/581098/0e6cd408ff/
http://exhentai.org/g/671438/9cfbf44f4d/
http://exhentai.org/g/749499/500b0e94ab/
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>>181671436
>>181671620
>>181671818
Here's your (you).
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>>181665558
Wait, I don't understand. Just like how Alice can transform into a human form or sprout new appendages in her natural human form like wings (which we haven't seen, but we did see her mother and her ancestors with butterfly-like wings) or tentacles, why can't Neris similarly alter her human guise?
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Yo I got some Rainbow Crystal from the Alraune place who can smith it ?
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>>181673005
Elf Smith on Elf Island.
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>>181673005
elf near the queen
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>>181673005
The elf princess' guard is one of the people that can. I think there's also an NPC in the fairy island end area that might be able to.
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>>181669849
There is no challenge if you just inflate your stats way beyond what the game is designed around
>>181670540
That is literally what the skills are for yes
>>181671009
Being able to pull it off against a high level boss certainly takes skill
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>>181667702
Is this compatible with Dargoth's Translation Patches?
If so how to install the mod?
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>>181673601
wait dargoth released a patch...
FUCK!
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>>181673771
Yup
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>>181673440
>That is literally what the skills are for yes
Except that it's clearly not because Torotoro changed it. Chains like inner/focused/daisy/transform still work just fine. Why in the world are you acting as though Torotoro removed stacking rather than simply placing on limit on what manner and how easily you can do so. You can still do stupid shit like getting 80+% passive evasion. The difference is that to reach that you now have to make sacrifices by supplementing yourself with the new gear that he implemented.

>There is no challenge if you just inflate your stats way beyond what the game is designed around
If you need to inflate your stats to beat the current superboss content, then not only are you not a high level player, then you're straight fucking garbage.
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>>181673440

>There is no challenge if you just inflate your stats way beyond what the game is designed around

Isn't that what you're doing with buff stacking?
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>>181673440
Here's the thing. If you beat every boss using the exact same skillset, you are playing a bad game. If you have to change your setup for a special boss, and have to actually have a specific strategy for dealing with each and every single important entity, then you are playing a good game. Clarastacking and buffing to demigod range really does kind of lead to the first one and evades the second one by quite a large margin.

This RPG has so many dials you can turn to balance the whole shit, why should high-level play be monotonous?
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>>181674115
The rebalance of ability stacks is the problem is that it forces you to rely on the passive buffs from the class or sacrifice ability points for a marginal boost. This forces you to use shitty slayer abilities or sacrifice an accessory slot in order to compensate.
>>181674204
The difference between artificially seeding your character and buffing is that one is a risky proposition and prone to failure; therefore it's more skill. The former is essentially no different from adding +999999 attack sword in principle.
Using the skills to boost your (uninflated) stats is perfectly fair within the game mechanics and is not cheating.
>>181674290
Says the guy who spams red lotus frame dance/heaven's blade every encounter to wipe out mobs, the fact that there's an optimal sequence of turns shouldn't mean you have to deflate stacks wtf?
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>>181675609
>Using the skills to boost your (uninflated) stats is perfectly fair within the game mechanics and is not cheating.
trtr disagrees with you there, and that's the only thing that matters.
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I dunno, i always found part of the fun in games was figuring out how to break them.
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>>181676082
Strategies within the game can still be overpowered and broken, buffing is fucking insane in terms of the damage you can inflict, my goddamned samurai kitsune oneshots the reaper with a full-power buffed skill for 732k (crit)
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>>181675609
OH NO. WE HAVE TO USE CLASSES OTHER THAN BATTLEMASTER/POPE/SUPERSTAR AND YOUR ABILITIY LOADOUT ISN'T A CLEARCUT CHOICE WITH MANY OF THEM BEING USELESS/SUBOTIMAL?

WHAT A HACK
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Im resisting playing part 2 until more of it gets translated (aka probably the rest of the year) ;_; but for those who are playing it how is it?

Did they fix 100% physical resist / spell reflection? Is farming job exp less cancer? Are there any jobs that are beyond broken?
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>>181675609
>Says the guy who...
Mobs are different from bosses and don't really function into this "high level play". Like I said, it's all about dem bosses. Having varied ways of defeating them with maybe different ones being viable per boss is fine. Having each boss be defeatable through almost the exact same sequence is not. And this is what happens if you survive till you set up this impenetrable barrier. It's not really amazingly complex, it's just this trick you taught yourself that makes it possible to beat everything.

Or in other words, there shouldn't be an optimal sequence of turns that's the same for every single superboss in a setting in which you have about 132 things you can balance per fight. I'm not saying we have reached that state right now, but trying to reach it is better than actually staying stuck in this bland, monotonous, braindead way of actually making you feel like your decisions mattered.
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>>181676714
>Is farming job exp less cancer?
Sorta. I forgot about mobs, but bosses tend to give around 45.
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>>181675609
>Spam red lotus
Well I'm not since I'm playing through Part 2 on Paradox with a party I didn't grind with before hand.
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>>181673976
Good news is it seems that the translation patch can be applied over my mod. So nothing need be done on my part. CECIL MOD GUY OUT!!!
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>>181677023
Where the hell did that picture even come from?
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>>181677316
xelvy twitter
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>>181676460
I think a lot of the shellshocked Part 1 folk haven't actually unlocked the advanced jobs, because holy stat bundles...

And, even then, I just tossed double King of Hearts on my Hild as Donfather (dual wields guns normally), and she's just dropping 90k crit Geysers at lv40 without buffs. (For the record, Slayer + Daisy Bell boosted Geysers were only hitting 45k crits on targets without resistance to the attached elements.)

This isn't how I'm supposed to utilize the job, of course, but TT wasn't lying when he said the advanced jobs with proper gear will pretty much shit all over our part 1 shenanigans.

The only catch is going to be finding ways to cheese the incoming damage really. Damage output is not going to be an issue if me doing it wrong is any indication, especially once I unlock some more valid advanced combat jobs for which I matching weapons with good stats.
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>>181677023
>>181677316
>>181677909
Yeah it took me about 2 seconds of looking at it to conclude it's gotta be some fanart Xelvy put up somewhere. Probably on his pixiv too.
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>>181677023
is there a full version of that pic?
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>>181677023
It's incredible how strongly everything Xelvy draws clicks with me. I'd probably bend over instantly if we ever met in person.
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>>181678242
>>181677909
I.... I can't recognize Xelvy doing anything other than abominations..... Xelvy seems to draw a lot of cute things on his twitter.

Damn, now im sad there isn't more good MGQ Fanart.
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>>181678521
even setouchi has done lovey dovey stuff
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>>181676926

>Part 2 on Paradox with a party you didn't grind beforehand

Out of curiousity how hard is paradox? I remember playing the original MGQ1 on the hardest mode wondering how it was possible to beat some of the bosses unless RNGesus was on your side.

Shit, I remember Lufia 2's special dungeon, those Golden Dragon fucks spamming their strongest move three times in a row could very well lead to a TPK.
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>>181678743
>Out of curiousity how hard is paradox?
I got it for you hard
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>>181678521
Damn I wanna see what nukuro can do on thos drums now
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>>181678743
>paradoxes paradox mode
Please for the love of christ only do it with a NG+/LOC party.

Getting Binded in paradox isn't that bad unlike in the VN what you need to worry about is undodgeble magic attacks or a buff running out.

For the most part Paradoxes difficulties range from "Auto kills everything" too "Think or you're gonna be raped viciously."
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>>181679092
the hell is illias doing?
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>>181678521
hmmm i've been resisting the twitter shit for 6 years now
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>>181679092
>2 pianos
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>>181678743
Part 1 was absolute hell until after you complete the first Tartarus, then it becomes progressively easier until Saki, which is a small difficulty spike, then Adramalech which is a fairly large one. Knowing which status effect enemies are vulnerable to is a necessity.
Part 2 was fairly easy at first, then around Yamatai the mobs became harder to deal with and now in the Grangold region, mobs can easily sweep my team with buffs up if I'm not careful.
I highly recommend getting Endure and Holy Martyr on at least a few characters before you finish Grand Noah
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>>181679386
>one piano
>one keyboard
i'm not an instrument guy but even I know the difference.
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>>181679092
what kind of music would use a keyboard, a piano, a violin , a guitar, a sitar and whatever the hell illias is doing?
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>>181679734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC0cvwnG0Ik
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>>181679808
Is this how the blank squares sound?
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>>181664407
>Google "Kamuro"
>Wiktionary: kamuro - 1. Rōmaji transcription of かむろ
>かむろ (rōmaji kamuro) 禿: bobbed hair; baldness; young girl attendant of a high-class prostitute
>Your eyes right now
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>>181680468
Not him but why would attendant imply she did the sex
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>>181680468

She also says she wouldn't mind being a prostitute, I'd take a screenshot of it if I could be bothered to talk to her over and over to suggest prostitute.
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>Work for a prostitute
>Not influenced by sluts
>Implying purity
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>>181681113
You know she doesn't actually work for a prostitute right?
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>>181681264
Her name implies she basically interns at a cathouse. Also >>181681053 shines a harsh light of reality upon your specious ruminations.
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>>181681113
Kamuro's a smart and pure girl.
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>>181681701
Again, why would attendant imply that she is doing any fucking?
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>>181681053

And here it is.
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>>181682261
>>181681701
>>181681113
Who even gives a shit? She's a monster.
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>>181682381
Because my monster waifu is pure and yours isn't.
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So I need help figuring this out. I need to find the Princess Elf. I've already collected the Orbs from Poseiden and Sphinx. I already defeated the white snake girl after her battle with Neris. I've spoken with the Queen Elf and then traveled to Yamatai and spoke to the old man in the tea house. I think at this point the Princess Elf SHOULD appear at the Snake Shrine, but she's not. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, or if this is a bug.
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>>181676714
>>181676813
Mimic Island exists, so there's that. And just by equipping double exp abilities, my characters (who had it equipped) went from level 30 at the beginning of Part 2 to the max level even before I had finished the Tartarus.
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>>181682542
She should appear outside the snake shrine when you approach, then run inside. After entering the shrine and going to the right of the first floor, the event happens.
If she's not showing up, it could be due to not completing the four shrines quest, which unlocks the oriental jobs for non-kitsune.
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>>181682261
>Kitsune courtesan
Just like the myth Tamamo
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>>181682659
Speaking of the Tartarus, I'm just about to enter. How much of Part 2 do I have left
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>>181681881
>hurr durr why would someone working with hookers all day ever get exposed to sex?
t. 89 IQ you

Here's more proof if you need it.
From: http://mon110.sakura.ne.jp/mong/top_monp.html

性技の勉強も欠かしていないようだ。
>It seems that studying sexual skills is also indispensable.

Basically, from Engrish, this means she's a slut
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Reminder Yao is the only pure Kitsune
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>>181682879
I don't believe it's a question whether any monster girl is exposed to sex. The only question is if the monster girl is still a virgin.
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>>181682754
Ok I'll give that a try then. May take a bit of time.
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>>181682879
She clearly knows about sex, you're arguing that that makes her a slut. This makes you more of a purityfag than anything.
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>>181682754
You have to have Sonya with you so she can get into a verbal spat with her, then rush inside to drag the elf princess out only for her to get beat and raped as the rest of the party stands outside. Side note: I'm about to start part 1 myself, is it true that as soon as I get the ability to change jobs that I might as well drop the hero job from Luka because he maxes it after a story event?
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>>181682381
It sabotages the oft-stated argument that Spatsune is "ruining" Kamuro.

This could not be any further from the truth; if not for Spatsune, Kamuro would be working as a prostitute.
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>>181682818
Quite a bit, actually.
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>>181683350
How does it sabotage anything? Sex is a regular and casual thing for monster girls. People claim that Spats is ruining Kamuro because she's teaching a seemingly smart child literally wrong information.

Also, much
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>>181683242
I did have Sonya with me, but nothing happened.

Truth be told I'm doing the Alice path this time, but when did my Illias playthrough, I did not run into this issue.
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>>181683242
>is it true that as soon as I get the ability to change jobs that I might as well drop the hero job from Luka because he maxes it after a story event?
Yes
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>>181683242
Sonya doesn't have to be in your party for any of her interaction events.

Yes, you can avoid apprentice hero and warrior for Luka for efficiency.
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>>181683242

It's true as well as the warrior class, I decided to level guard to avoid any wasted job XP.
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>>181683616
>*Also, much of what Kamuro says in Part 2 is at least somewhat correct
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>>181682879
>kunoichi elves, that weird delphi thing, and living fernandez weren't in this part at all
hmm
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So the illas in the final evaluation of part 2 is Angel world illas right?
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>>181683753
Kunoichi elf is part 3 tier.
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>>181683350
Intellectually, Spatsune is ruining Kamuro.
The ONLY thing Spatsune has ever gotten right so far is that buoyancy is why boats float, because Spatsune is actually a boat aficionado.

Then one time Promestein fills in for Spatsune, now there's a woman Kamuro can actually learn from!
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>>181682754
Alright it worked. Thanks for the tip anon!
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>>181683789
>living fernandez weren't in this part at all
Well she is dead in Paradox world so the alive version must be from the monster world which also means its modern day and not in the past
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Xelvy simultaneously has one of the most appealing art designs of these characters, with the most horrifying H-Scenes to go with them. You would think that looking at Sonya's two forms at the end, that he H-Scenes would be incredible. But then you actually see them. I can't tell because of the moonrunes, but it actually looks like she flat out rips your fucking nuts off and blood explodes everywhere.

This is why as appealing as the design of the Archangels are, I'm in no way looking forward to the loss or possible requests scenes with them in Part 3, because of what a sick fuck Xelvy is. But I know at least Shiki will deliver. He understands it's a fucking porn game.
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One thing I'm confused about for Part 3 to clear up.

>In the Puppeteer's Tower in Part 1, Black Alice was referring to being defeated by Luka, implying she's original timeline Black Alice
>But we learn in Part 2 that THAT Black Alice from Part 3 was actually sent back in time 30 years, and blew everything up in the process of becoming a chaos god

So what's the deal with the Black Alice in Part 1 who is ordering minions to cause trouble? Or is she the Paradox world's Black Alice and her phrasing about her defeat was referring to Heinrich?

I don't have English enough Part 1 (never did the final patch) on hand to go check that dialogue to clear this one up.
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>>181684136
>promestein shits on that researcher in iliasport for not being able to say things simply for people to understand her
>her explanation to kamuro is filled with complicated terms that immediately confuse her
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>>181684136
Promestein is teaching Kamuro shit information too. Doesn't she discuss the Bernoulli effect when Kamuro asks how birds fly? Promestein might as well be getting into Poisson distributions if Kamuro asks why some leaves turn red in the Fall.

Shit teaching like this would just deter Kamuro from ever achieving scholastic success.
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>>181684991
She shits on the "scientist" for pretending his fluke of an experiment was legitimate science and covering up his ignorance with big words. Promestein is clearly knowledgeable of the subject.
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>>181685648
Her knowledge of anything is irrelevant to a student who can't understand what she's saying.
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>>181685847
She shouldn't have asked the question then. Promestein just contributed her knowledge as a bystander, not assumed the role of her tutor.
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...have you ever wondered what a real dick is like? If even someone like Promestein still lusts after the cock when the chips are down, then how good must it be?
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>>181685954
She didn't ask Promestein the question in the first place. It's like if some college student who overheard a middle schooler asking her friend about algebra started spouting shit about calculus.
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>>181686251
Once again the "straight" posters reveal their delusion.
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>>181684579
Considering what Gnosis does? You very well might be right.
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>>181684991
Did you forget the part where right after Ilias comments that Promestein has always been a bully?
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>>181686251
Only Luka's dick does that. It's the Nephilim hero bloodline shota cock.
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How'd your 4th go /mggg/?
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>>181684579

Why can't someone that's nice be in charge of the angels, with delphi you got freaks but with xelvy I'm afraid of what he's capable of.
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>>181687130
I finally started Paradox. Pretty good so far. I didn't know I could recruit the pirate mobs if I chose to go with the Navy, I was pleasantly surprised.
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>>181687243
Don't forget that Xelvy also made this
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>>181687243
I think TrTr just hates the idea of Angels, God and Heaven. I find it to be a bit of a common Japanese trope where "God" is the villain.

Two years ago when Paradox was first announced, I was excited to encounter Uriela, Raphaela and Sandalphone. Now not so much. I bet Xelvy is sitting in the dark of his room right now, under the glow of his PC monitor, drawing Uriela sticking her finger up Luka's urethrae. Because god forbid a character with a body like hers has a sexually appealing loss scene.
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>>181688110

You just know Gabriela is going to do some plansect tier shit.
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>>181684893
We don't know.
The native world's Black Alice should still be at large and a separate being from her VN counterpart just like the local Ilias. Promestein too for that matter.
Keep in mind that Luka has gotten flashes of the VN events. Perhaps something similar has happened to her? Considering Chaos God Black Alice can interact through recordings and how she ascended, I wouldn't be surprised if all of her lesser versions have gained some kind of meta awareness. When you beat the Black Alice of 500 years ago, she reveals that she knows the party is from another world and that Heinrich is the one who must fell her, not them.
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>>181684579
What actually happens in the Sonya scenes? I didn't really see anything bad?

As for Gnosis, the ball eating thing doesn't even show up in the game itself, so as of now, I'd say you're on the same level of pussy as all those people who were put off by Xelvy's stuff in the VN.
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>>181688110
>I don't find this particular fetish in this fetish porn game to be appealing, so that must mean that no one does.
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>>181688254
>being an elitist for a japanese fetish porn game
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>>181688251
>When you beat the Black Alice of 500 years ago, she reveals that she knows the party is from another world and that Heinrich is the one who must fell her, not them.

If Heinrich could figure it out on his own, I'm sure she could.
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>>181688401
Not an elitist. I'm just calling you a pussy. Am I wrong? I don't think so, considering your reaction.
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>>181688254
If I remember correctly
Succubus!Sonya: Orgasm contest then eats him
Angel!Sonya: Punishment but has actual sex and may have been impregnated
Chaos!Sonya:Become with me Luka
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>>181688467
I'm not that guy, and you are still being an elitist whether you believe so or not.
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>>181688530
I ask if it's actually visually explicit, like the vore stuff where they show Luka getting digested inside.

>>181688551
Whatever you say, pussy. You don't need to prove anything to me. Seeing as I already know you're a pussy.
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>>181688254
>the ball eating thing doesn't even show up in the game itself
And a few other CGs don't either.
I'm still annoyed by the kissing Chrome scene not actually being in the game.
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>>181688687
>>181688401
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>>181688530
I remember in angel sonya scene that she's crying. That brought me feels
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>>181688396
I would assume people who have fetish for sticking things up their urethrae, or having their genitals mangled and mauled, cannot make up more than 2% of the fanbase.
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>>181688898
And your point? Clearly Torotoro doesn't commision content based on what he thinks is the most popular.
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>>181688898
Count them. Do it quickly.
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>>181684991
>>181685001
Bah! By challenging Kamuro to the utmost, Promestein is giving her the biggest boon to intellectual growth!
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>>181689027
>>181688898

Someone make a poll
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>>181689207
No, I was asking him to count the instances of the scenes his examples showed up in.
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>>181689207
How bout make a poll on a site where people won't purposefully choose the most fucked up fetishes, just to troll?
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>>181686305
She's not her teacher. She asked the question, she got a correct answer. Hopefully Kamuro realizes her ignorance and researches the subject to relieve her ignorance.
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>>181689489
Generally people who interject on conversations with people they have almost nothing to do with and start spouting nonsense nobody but they can understand get called autistic.
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>>181689328
I can think of 4 right off the top of my head. Promestein, Laplace, Sonya, and Gnosis.
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>>181689718
Surely you're not talking about Lolistein. Or rather, the hell. Delphinus' angels are more disgusting than anything Promestein or Laplace did in the VN.

As for Sonya; what, specifically? Other anon listed examples here and none of them are actually visually explicit.
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>>181688396
Who the fuck find that shit appealing? Anyone who fantasizes about that shit happening to them is probably mentally disturbed and should probably seek help before they do something stupid and hurt themselves. An old friend of mine who is a psychologist, told me he once had a student who shoved crayons up his dickhole. He had to be hospitalized eventually and get therapy. Seriously there's fetishes, and then there's psycho shit.
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>>181689718
Don't forget this cute little thing
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>>181688530
You know thinking about the bloodlines of Luka. Have you ever noticed that Luka's family always seems to love crazy girls. Heinrich and Black Alice. Marcellus and Lucifina. Then Luka and Alice.
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>>181689959
>As for Sonya; what, specifically? Other anon listed examples here and none of them are actually visually explicit.

Sonya Mazda. Why do you got to the pictures folder of Paradox, ctrl+f soniamazda, and tell me what she's doing to him doesn't look visually explicit.
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>>181689994
I agree and despite the vocal minority here, vore is clearly the latter.
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>>181690002
She doesn't do any of that stuff though. You might be thinking of that other butterfly by umidori or whatever whose request scene google translate nicely decided to translate as "urethral suicide".
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>>181690187
Alice is crazy for Luka!
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>>181690002
>>181690376
Wait nevermind I missed that somehow. The fuck did we need two sounding butterflies for.
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>>181690381
Man after learning that Alice stored Luka's semen for future generations that sounds crazy in my eyes.
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>>181690494

Because Plansect needed more reasons to get burned down.
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>>181690376
>doesn't do urethral insertion
Wrong.
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>>181690568
Neither of those are in Plansect dude.
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>>181690605

Nevermind me then.
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>>181690584
rip
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>>181689994
Nigga, are you the fucking thought police? Surely you aren't seriously insinuating that people need psychiatric help because they have a weird fetish and jack off to drawings of it.
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>>181690742
Quite the opposite, actually. My psychiatrist told me to never see him again after I jacked off to his Rorschach test.
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>>181690742
Depends on what they're jacking off to, hence why I said there's fetishes and psycho shit. If I see my friend jerking off to the torture scenes in Hostel, BME Pain Olympics, or Child Porn, I'm not gonna be like "Meh...I'm not the thought police."

I'd probably be seriously concerned for him.
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>>181690224
Yeah, not explicit at all. Definitely nothing like Gnosis, anon. All you see at the end is purple stuff; just by looking at the picture, it's impossible to understand what's supposed to be happening.
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Speaking of unused scenes that milf minotaur has basically another entire one of her scene's worth of CG where she breastfeeds Luka and gets impregnated that isn't in game for some reason.
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>>181691232
>Testicles are opened and exposed
>Red liquid pouring from them
>"Pfff you don't know his balls are in distress in that image."

Are you some kind of asshole?
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So there's the BF Called Witchy in Magistea Village and the Succubus Witchy. How can they be differentiated?
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>>181691232
>breastfeeding
>impregnation

How could one thing be so perfect?
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>>181691808
They wear different colored hats.
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Is there a way to edit your save to change a companions name to english?
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>>181690584
>all those rape scenes where Luka describes it like the monster sucking it right from the source
>and then it actually happens for real

The imaginary pain and that art has me wincing but the general idea and those little upwards travelling proboscis bulges are accomplishing something else.
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I was rummaging around in my old computer and I found some old MGQ stuff, think we could come up with an updated version of pic related?
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Just out of curiosity has anyone made a walkthrough on how to beat the paradox pt 1 on Paradox difficulty? I was thinking of being a tryhard and replay part 1 to give it a go, but unlike normal I would actually need to know good class comps.
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>- Slimes are ideal for damage dealers. They can use multiple skills per turn, leading to more buffs, and more damage.

What bizzaro world is this? How can slimes use multiple skills?
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>>181692905
Only if it's the paradox world map
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>>181693724
Yeah, that is what I meant. Probably should have said that.

Nice catch.
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Sonia is pure shit.
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>>181693324
skill division
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>>181667702
could you upload it as zip or on mediafire?
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>>181692905
I've thought about something similar with the Paradox map, except it would just be naming locations and maybe have a "here be this type of monster" thing with faces of encounters.
The main obstacle is that I don't know how to create plain images out of rpg maker map files. It would be tedious taking screenshots and assembling them.
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>>181692905
>Iliasville-keep same
>Iliasburg-NO DRAGON
>Nameless Slum- Phoenix Rising
>Pornof - Absolutely Normal People
>Mountains-keep same
>Tartarus No.1 - Were not in kansas anymore.
>Happiness village - WHERE IS SHE?
>Medias Village- GOLD UND GOLD!
>Enrika - here there be sluts.
>Rostrum - EVERYONE IS DEAD
>Tartarus No.2 - What the fuck is even happening.
>Iliasport - No one cares
>Treasure Cave- Nothing good resides here
>Ocean between Natalia/Port- Shikibus no.1 lives here
>Port Natalia- Shota Enthusiasts
>Luddite Village - Rapist & More Rape
>San Ilia - MECHA POPES
>Forest of Spirits -Chi Pa P-WHAT THE JESUS HAPPENED
>Chrome Manson - 4spook8me
>Monte Carlo - FOR JUSTICE
>Rubiana - Where is everyone?
>Sabasa - Beat the slut out of the queen
>Pyramid - There isnt even a princess here anymore.
>Grandeur- SAKI-CHANNNN!
>Witch Hunt Village - Insane Woman VS The World
>Ruins - Shy Depressed Woman
>Saloon - Lizards live near here
>Tartarus No.3 - Actually Abominations
>Port Marle- Small breast or Big breast?
>Marine Headquarters - Lolis in uniforms
>Finoa - do not conscript me
>Gran Noah - Colosseum and Sluts
>Yamatai - ASIANS
>Plantsect - Vegan y/n?
>Esta - Everyones gone
>Tartarus No.3 - welcome to slavery!
>Undines Spring - here there be slimes
>Lima Village - EVERYONE IS DEAD.
>Goddard - Everyone is depressed
>Grangold - SUPER KINGS & SHIKIBI
>Goldport - Only Bagpipes
>Succubi Village - Slut on Slut action
>Lady Village - A lot less nope
>Salamanders Volcano - Everything burns.
>Bird God Shrine - G2 SNOW
>Fairy Island - Pot-Smoking hippies & NEETs.
>Snow Heaven - Polarbears and Angels
>Ilias Shrine Ruins - WELCOME TO THE END OF THE UNIVERSE.
>Remina - WELCOME TO DIE V3.0, YOUR FRIED!
Time for (ALTS)
>Iliasville Alt - NANI?
>Rostrum Alt - Chefs & Dads
>Remina Alt - These people are cool
>Succubi Village Alt - I'm the Hero now.
>Monsterlord Castle Alt - Shes a big girl.

Did i miss anything?
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>>181695531

You could find the map that pops up when you press Q.
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>>181695765
This shit is way too tiny though. I won't stand for low quality enlarged images either.
Time to figure out how to make a real Paradox map. I guess.
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>>181693068
You're not being a tryhard if you're just following a guide
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>>181693324
Hint: This.
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>>181692905
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I have to thank whoever looked in the picture files and found testicular extraction, I love saying that word, and while I do not want to experience testicular extraction I do want to see it more in media so it can be enjoyed by everyone.
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monster girl gamu is the best western visual novel i have ever seen! fujo is very smart and i ask all to support dev!
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>>181698072
>best western visual novel
Not even close to Quest Failed
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>>181698371
you do not need judge game! Just play demo. i love it and the beauty art!
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>>181697985
What would you even call it? Hulling? like what I do with the acorns in the fall?
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>>181697918
>Having Chrome bathe in the spring could also work...
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>>181698493
i tell you what, if you can repeat that in english, ill try it out.
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So, anyone know a bit her?
Aside from being black alice, is she different in any way or is she still the same war hungry, do whatever the fuck she wants demon lord out to rule all of reality?
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>>181699003
>Aside from being black alice, is she different in any way or is she still the same war hungry, do whatever the fuck she wants demon lord out to rule all of reality?
Shes insane.

Shes also surprisingly reasonable at points, hell she felt sorry for the lost Polar Bear girl and tells Lilith&Lilim to come be part of their play.

She also says she knows that Heinrich has to kill her.

I kinda.... dont want that to happen after having her in the party for so long.
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>>181699003
She plays BOOMERANG with the slimes that live in her castle, anon.
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>>181695897
Post version from game files you baka
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>>181699902

I think he did.
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>>181699003
She's black Alice from 500 years ago she's crazy but she might be a little less evil than VN black Alice
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>>181698586
I just said that I call it testicular extraction, I saw that said by someone else here and went with it.
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>>181699902
That is the in-game map that pops up with Q you idiot.
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>>181699930
Apparently so
Someone needs to tell Torotoro to fix this shit before part 3
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So what are racial abilities that stay with the character like Talk on angel Luka?
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>>181661682
does anyone know how to start/do the yamtai sidequests?

ive defeated white snek after shooing neris away, talked to the shrine maiden at the cat shrine and then found the cat, saw her respond to a different cat, but not quite sure what to do next for for or snek
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>>181702406
Did you not rescue the Tanuki in Orochi's cave?
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Excuse me, brothers, do you have a moment to talk about our Lady and Savior Goddess Ilias?
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Daily reminder
>>103918815
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>>181702880
Inshilias, brother
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>>181702880
Thanks for the laugh.
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>>181697637
SLIMED
How can the other knights even compete?
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>>181704751
>Erubetie will never achieve her dream of being the slime at the Nickelodeon kids choice awards
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>>181695897
There's this one but it's not updated to part 2 yet
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>>181690556
That was Tamamo(since she's always thinking about the good of the monster lord line)
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Where the hell do i find Casandra and Emile after they've been unsealed?
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>>181702848
i just did, i had recruited orochi such a long time ago i didnt consider that a location that tanuki could have run off to, are there any other quests? necessary to make elf princess show up?
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Some people on the wiki keep saying sonya fate is different between the two routes any truth to that?
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>>181708281
her apoptosis forms are different but I presume that's it
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>>181708316
Some people on the wiki are saying she only makes a clone of her self on the illas route while in the Alice route she turns back to normal by nuruko
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>>181706965
Oh man I should reread those Questions answers again. I need to remember this since I screwed up who stored that.
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>>181708535
Huh, interesting. I guess that's where Nuruko's true form is shown too?
Anyway, based Nuruko
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>【ルカ】世界は僕のものだ!
>【ボニー】そして海は私のものだ!
>【ソニア】ルカの妄言に賛同者が出来ちゃった!
Heh. Bonnie seems like she'd get along well with World Domination Luka.
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>>181708168
Did you recruit Ant Queen yet? I've seen some people say you have to complete the 4 Yamatai villagers quest. After starting Ant Queen's recruitment quest, you should talk to the elder inside the building. Afterwards, exit and you'll see 4 youths speaking to each other. Interact with them and the quest should begin; they'll scatter into 4 different locations and you'll have to find them all. I believe they go to Succubus Village, the Forest of Spirits, Natalia Port, and Harpy Village.
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>>181708724
Conquer them all Luka. The world is yours Luka. Not the gods or demons.
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>>181708281

Ilias route: https://youtu.be/7WfOTqB4ZTo?t=19m55s

Alice route: https://youtu.be/VcoeJRtTdjY?t=12m46s

Because I looked around and spoiled myself like filthy spoiler whore that I am, I think the way Ilias route handles it looks cooler.
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>>181708535
>>181708593
Yep, on Alices route she turn back to normal due to Nuruko SAVING THE FUCKING UNIVERSE.

Nuruko also actually says words when she does this. They're mostly blocked out by Apoptis boxes but she says something on long the line of "I am the spirit of chaos, i will save everyone here."

She promptly turns back into cute little Nuruko afterwards and still goes "Kyuu Kyuu" while being adorible as the Lilith Sisters freak the fuck out about Nuruko not just saving the universe but BANISHING ADRAMELECH and ABSORBING ALL OF CHAOS, and she does this effortlessly.

Damn Luka's children are badass.
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>>181709056
Man the Luka bloodlines is a scary family. Nuruko even scared the Lilith sisters.
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Double anal.
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>>181708945
>>181709056
It's really col to see some big differences between routes but I can't really think of a reason why their different
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>>181708945
Jesus shit the guy goes through text so fucking fast I have to pause the screen to read it. Tell the man to chill the fuck out.

Anyway, yeah. I think it's cool that Nuruko gets development on Alice's route but Ilias's route has that hint of tragedy to it that I prefer with Luka promising to one day save the real Sonya.
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>>181709329
>you don't get to fuck those laser-emitting mouth-pussies
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>>181709056
>>181709280
Is this talk of Nuruko being Luka's bloodline some kind of meme or some deep lore that I missed or what
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>>181679092
>Hey, can my friend come to our next band meeting?
>Sure, what does she play
>She doesn't, she just stands at the front making weird poses while wearing slutty cosplay
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>>181709484
>Is this talk of Nuruko being Luka's bloodline some kind of meme or some deep lore that I missed or what
Nuruko is implied to be the offspring of Hilde and Luka.

Hilde was made to reproduce and only responds to Luka's DNA. Hilde also wants to breed with Luka. In the Paradox part 2 trailer Hilde has the same Chaos mask as Sonya/Nuruko, shes also shown to be impregnated and her children also have the same mask.

Nuruko also only follows Luka, everywhere he goes. Nuruko will follow Luka durring camp scenes, in the pocket castle, in the house she was found in. Nuruko will follow Luka to the legitimate end of the universe.
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>>181695897
I don't know if this counts as a map but it's the field itself(that you traverse)
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>>181709691
Man I can't blame Nuruko. For all we know Luka tells Nuruko that he's going out for a pact of smokes. He's never coming back.
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>>181682783
looks like Kitsu beat her to the punch.
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>>181708945
From what I can tell
>black Alice can talk like a apoptosis
>in the illas route sonya seem to have more free will and saves everyone but disappears and makes a clone while making everyone but luka forget (nuruko also isn't there?)
>in Alice route she doesn't and nuruko saves her and everyone, morrigan joins and then gets told Alice mom was killed
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>>181709691
What's the chance they used sonya DNA for Hilde apoptosis DNA
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Hah. Currently doing Alice's route. Ilias seems rather fond of her two subordinates, going by her Yamatai Village appearance.
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>>181711143
Well at least the the alice route gets something the Illias route didn't
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Which of these is the latest patch translation version for Monster Girl Paradox 1? The one on the left is version 1.21.76 and the right is 1.21.51
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>>181712705
forgot picture
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>>181712693
Yeah but sadly it has nothing to do with Alice character and just the fact that sonya and nuruko acted differently on each route.


Well atleast the routes have very different ending now so part 3 will be cool
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>>181712882
The last number % so 76
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>>181713219
Don't really feel like playing it if its not all translated, know the date when its going to be fully translated?
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>>181713637
out of the 24% remaining non of it is story content, its h scenes(bad ones mostly) and battle text(what people say when they use skills) just play it or wait till part 2 has everything ported over from part 1
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>>181713142

Aw damnit I picked Ilias. If I get a bad end just because I wanted to be a moral compass for Ilias I'm going to be be upset.
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>>181714038
Don't worry the only person who will suffer is sonya and Eden and the other Eden
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>>181714038
Ilias route is basically her redemption arc, surely our faith will be rewarded in part 3
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>>181713946
Would you list the game as a visual novel? Since its on the visual novel database
https://vndb.org/v17046
https://vndb.org/v21267
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>you will never punch morrigan so hard she orgasms
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>>181714106
>Eden and the other Eden
The clothed Eden looks too smug to suffer
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>>181714038
>Aw damnit I picked Ilias
Bad end.
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>>181714195
>harapan scene with Morrighan never
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>>181713142
There seems to be so much stuff that needs to be squashed into part 3 that I can't imagine it being feasibly possible.

Like either Part 3 is going to have to be longer than part 1 and 2 combined or it's going to be a disappoint.

And if it is that long, there's no way it comes out faster than part 2 did. 3 years at minimum I'd say.
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>>181714331
Part 3 will probably take like 3 years to come out, seriously.
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>>181714504

And even longer until it's translated/we know what the fuck's going on.
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>>181714331
It depends of how much is already done before part 2 was even released
>Sonya 2 forms were done when LOC came out
>Angel world micaela and Lucifina were done when LOC came out
>neris Angel form was in the game files from the start
>battle fuckers both part 1 and 2 as well as chrome have unused scenes
So lots of stuff may already be done like but not in the game files like
>designs for all important characters are done
>xelvy probably finished all his H scenes and CG a year ago
>probably a lot less jobs and races for part 3
>lots of dialogue for characters could already have been written
Not to mention for part 3 they can release patches for more post game content and just release the main story
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Is there non-loli Ilias in part 2? Seriously, loli is such a shit tier fetish, all I remember from part 1 is missing the original frfr's Ilias
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>>181714767
>probably a lot less jobs and races for part 3
Honestly this is a big one for every less job or way less text
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>>181714767
I mean yeah, it's possible that he held off on releasing part 2 until a certain degree of part 3 content was already done so as to make it so the difference in intervals between part 2 and part 3's release date was more reasonable.

I'm not the optimistic type though
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>>181714895
yes
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>>181714895
Playable or with a h scene no but two adult illas appear one the old frfr and the other is pic
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>>181714950
It less hold off and more the fact that lots of stuff been done before it was necessary
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>>181714767
Also if the end of part 2 is any indication there may be plot threads that are exclusive to each route. For example, Heinrich's berserking stuff may be exclusively solved on Ilias's route.

So while writing 2 routes that answers all the questions would be an undeniable tall task that would result in the content you have to write nearly doubling, if you divide those plot points between the two routes and only solve half of them each for each route, then the amount of content you have to write won't increase by as much.
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So, is prime world destroyed? If I understood the finale, only 3 worlds remain, paradox, monster and angel, right?
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>>181714305
What's a harapan?
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>>181715654
when you punch girl's stomach repeatedly
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>>181715515
As far as I can recall they only mention that it's the parallel worlds that are being destroyed. I don't think the original counts as a parallel world. In general the state of the original world hasn't really been touched upon. Since that's where Neris and Nero likely come from, it'll probably be explained more once they play a bigger part of the story.

Also there are obviously more than those 3 since we can already access more than those at this point. She just says that the majority of the parallel worlds have already been destroyed and there aren't that many left
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>>181715727
From the inside.
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>>181715515
Their 7 alt worlds left 8 if the VN isn't one of the Tartarus
>paradox root world
>first world 1 year ahead where Angels killed everyone
>second world that's in the past luka dad went though their
>third world the future gone from chaos
>4th world Angel world may be in the past if loli prom hasn't been missing for hundreds of years
>5th world 500 years ago
>6th world monster world presumed modern age
>7th world in the centre of the world may be the VN world or black Alice personal world
>VN world? Sent Nero and neris
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>>181715918
Probably more than that too. For example, it's unlikely that there's only one tartarus in the parallel worlds you go to. There are going to be even more tartaruses in those worlds that lead to other worlds(but obviously you can't access them because you're always blocked off in some way).

How many of those lead to worlds that are still alive or already dead is a different matter though
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Looks like you'll be forced to sacrifice everything for IIias's sake in her route and everything will be saved in the Alice route at the cost of IIias. Man, talk about a heaven's feel, you can protect everything if you choose to go along with what fate has decided for you a little bit or you can lose everything for the sake of someone else.
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>>181714950
>it's possible that he held off on releasing part 2
Well we already know he did that for bugs for a month or two
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It's possible to meet La croix right? I imagine so since her zombie brigade is recruitable. how does that encounter go down?
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>>181716924

I imagine a major issue for putting together paradox would be bug squashing, with all the characters and all the jobs and all the skills there is so much that can possibly go wrong.
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>>181717362
probably the largest and most time consuming part of paradox is writing all the scripts neccesary for even small cutscenes or interactions.
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>>181717303
Post game in the town south of the Bird God's Shrine. She believes the erosion of the world to be irreversible, but Chrome convinces her otherwise by giving her alt-La Croix's notebook. La Croix decides to continue research with the new information and gives you Cirque De Croix.
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>>181690187
I can't say i blame them....
I also love Ilias
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>>181717726
That took way to long for their main goal at the end of part 1
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>>181717726

I see, thanks.
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>>181714260
For you.
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>>181715515
What. No. There's an uncountable amount of them, apparently. White Rabbit even copied Bunni (if you choose to attack her in Iliasburg) from some random world. It's just that Tartarus pits have only opened up to connect to 8 other parallel worlds.

Paradox World is simply the first ever parallel world, which makes it the most important parallel world of them all.
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>>181676082
That is true but his balance has done more harm than good.
>>181676460
Then the underlying issue is still unresolved, increasing the ability point distribution for those classes could easily put them on par with those classes. If some classes are clearly better than others, nerfing all off them is not the right solution; making those other classes actually viable is. Even this solution doesn't make those abilities useful, you're just going to put abilities on to fill the the empty space instead of playing to your strengths.
>>181676780
Look, if trtr wanted to make certain strategies ineffective, he could make counters like dispel, make the boss immune, or nerf those skills that are abused.
>It's not really amazingly complex, it's just this trick you taught yourself that makes it possible to beat everything
>but trying to reach it is better than actually staying stuck in this bland, monotonous, braindead way of actually making you feel like your decisions mattered.
What does this even mean.
>>181676926
The point is that for 99% of your encounters you're going to be using the same superior skills with little variation so the argument that a monotonous style of play for super bosses harms the game is a disingenuous argument.
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>>181714106
Eden will never again feel this, she's getting repaid for all the suffering she has lived through her life, it's karma.
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>>181715774
>She just says that the majority of the parallel worlds have already been destroyed and there aren't that many left
Fuck, the notebook better be useful then.
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>>181718487
>make counters like dispel
You mean like he has.
>make the boss immune
You mean like he has.
>nerf those skills
You mean like he has.
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I picked IIias, does this mean I'm locked out of Nuruko?
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>>181719597
yes
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>>181719597

No.
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>>181719597
Maybe?
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>>181719597

I don't know.
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>>181719597
You're not the boss of me now.
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>>181719597
The stuff at the end of the part doesn't happen, yes.
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>>181719597
No fairy race
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>deal 130k damage with heavens blade unbuffed
great game balance trtr
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>1.3 mil damage geyser
yeah and Clara was clearly the problem
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>>181719696
>>181719743
>>181719775
>>181719775
>>181719825
>>181719854
>>181719856
>>181719885
Fug, I feel like I got tricked by the IIiasfags. her character development better be for real,then instad of just another ruse cruse like before.
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>>181720090
She's only in her new form for like 30 seconds and gets the fairy race it's no big deal till part 3
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>13 mil damage with Excalibur
so much for difficulty I guess
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>>181720090
Cant talk for alice in pt 2 but illias develops pretty well through pt1/2 whereas in pt 1 alice just felt kind of there
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>>181720247
Fool me once...
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>>181720247
>resolving her conflicting feelings of missing her mom and having to oppose her
>kind of there
nah get fucked pisslias stain.
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>133 billion damage with Grangold King
Clearly buff-stacking was the problem
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>>181720090
I mean. She's legitimately sad and upset over Lucifina and Michaela left her in Part 1.

Besides that, Eden is cute not to take.
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>>181720353
>resolving her conflicting feelings of missing her mom and having to oppose her
Call me when she mets her mom corpse in part 3
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>>181720450
so like in the vn lmao
cuckliasfags are so brainless its amazing they remember how to breathe
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>>181720585
>so like in the vn
Wow truly worth doing the Alice route
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>>181720353
That's not really much of a compelling story line? As is, she doesn't really develop as a character at all. She's pretty static so far. It's more like her exploring a mystery rather than actually maturing as a character.
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>3.3x10^33 damage with eden beam
what the fuck?
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>>181720450
there is that final evaluation,and that is the only time we "see and meet" her
in the vn at least
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>>181720768
Seriously?
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>>181720768
>eden beam
Is that a legit attack?
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>>181720768
This one is balanced, considering Eden can never attack without being bullied and it needs to be charged.
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>>181720450
To be honest I'm more interested in the ancestors, lilith sisters, heavenly knights and alice's relationship with her mother
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>>181720765
Nuruko true form, black Alice, morrigan and all those part 3 exclusives are the highlights of her route
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>>181721037
>alice's relationship with her mother
Should of been in part 2 instead she's dead
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>>181721142
Sabasa King was also supposedly dead.
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>>181720925
Yeah, but you need to unlock the Ilias Beam and Magical Girl job first, which leads to a sidequest where Eden learns the Eden Beam from Ilias.

>>181721041
Like, story highlights? Not particularly?
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>>181721041
Plus it seems like Sonya was able to be saved in her route sparring Luka some angst, considering he cares enough about her to threaten people far more powerful than he is with death for talking bad about her or trying to do something bad to her.
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>>181721323
He fell into a hole she was killed by luka dad
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>>181721439
That's not what the succubi said.
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>>181720765
She goes from just hunting the white Rabbit to wanting to save the world? She becomes humbled by being usurped as monster lord 3 times over? She bonds with Luka over their missing parents?
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>>181721589
a strong gust of wind blew him into one of those holes
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>>181721589
Said about what? They do say that Alice 15 was killed by Marcellus
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>>181721809
Read Morrigan's conversation with Queen Harpy again.
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>>181720720
it's not like you played the VN lmao
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>>181721887
Read half the other dialogue in the game
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>>181721787
First point is irrelevant? That's what I said. It's her exploring a mystery. Her character hasn't developed at all from her goal being expanded.

And no, Alice's character hasn't changed from getting "usurped 3 times over". She was always strong-willed. It's even made a joke of, with her not feeling humbled or weakened at all and saying that she'll just beat her mother down and take back her place. The only real feelings she has are of confusion over her mother's actions.

And bonding with Luka over their missing parents? Eh? Why are you mentioning this as her character receiving meaningful development? Her character isn't changing at all. She's static. You're retarded if you think someone feeling sad or happy with someone else means a character is not static. Do you even understand? She hasn't grown at all, no notable advancements. She's not dynamic.

Your literary sense is completely nonexistent if this was all you could come up with to reply to me with. I could pity you and pretend to acknowledge your points, but you're arguing that Alice's story is not her "just being there", but that's all she is.
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Come to think of it Marcellus is pretty hardcore for killing Alipheese the 15th, I know he's supposed to be strong but he killed a monster lord all by himself.
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>>181722573
she let it happen in both times though
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>>181721392
i like the ilias version more it was more tragic and gives luka another reason to fight on "to save his childhood friend as well as the world" it felt more personal
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>>181722642

Do we know if she let it happen the second time? it seems like it'd throw a bit of a wrench in the monster world's plans to have the monster lord die.
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>>181722573
I think paradox Marcellus killed worse shit than monsterlords at this point
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>>181723003
No, Adramalek was weakened and about to be killed by Luka. It does not count.
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>>181722858
>it seems like it'd throw a bit of a wrench in the monster world's plans
Probably the reason she let it happen I really don't think a peace lover like her gives a fuck about their plans.

Besides she needed to die to match the true history
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>>181723106

I imagine he could solo full powered adrameleks at this point.
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>>181723106
>about to be killed
More like about to kill Luka. Ilias and Alice both say there's no time to fight it. Also if you think for some reason he could use Flash Kill but hasn't ever fought anything strong you're out of your mind.
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弱すぎ
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>>181723106
No she wasn't, Luka killed a 10% Adramelek and then she resurrected before Marcellus showed up. And apparently she gets stronger with each death
Either way, we don't know what Marcellus kills offscreen. I think he's involved in whatever keikaku brought Nuruko and Hild to Luka, so I think he's seen far more shit than just Adramelek
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>>181723121
>Besides she needed to die to match the true history
following history eh? yeah history is done by this point both ilias and alive 15 are dead...so history is done...?
and no our ilias is not the ilias of paradox she is dead....guess we have to wait till part 3 to find out what's next
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>>181723159
>>181723281
>>181723306
>as I ready my next move...
Adramalek was still fucked from the fight, Marcellus just killstealed the final blow.
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>>181723281
Speaking of Flash Kill, do you think Marcellus has the spirits? Maybe from some other world?
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The real reason why trtr killed off Alice 15th is because he only has zombie artwork of her from the original trilogy
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>>181723797
which is why there are new portraits of her in the game files
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>>181723729
More like he saved Luka's life.

Though I guess if the translation is going to translate 覚悟を決めた as "readied my next move" that might be hard to conclude, heh. Luka literally just gave up and accepted his death before he was saved
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Ilias companion is technically original timeline Ilias right? Is the Alice companion original timeline Alice or Paradox timeline Alice?
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>>181723626
to do list
>luka dad has to die
>Alice adult form
>Eden being 3rd
>4 Knights need to be relevant
>epic war with everyone working together
>love lova giga
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>>181724039

Paradox timeline Alice.
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>>181724012
What a bitch
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If aldra is just like doomsday
Wouldn't the best action be to contain or seal her?
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>>181724012
No I don't believe you. Only rogue or Dargoth can confirm this.
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>>181724093
Did White Rabbit borrow her for history recreation like she borrowed a Tamamo for the Treasure cave?
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>>181724054
Luka and Alice have to do the nasty

So
3day ntr for illias route
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>>181723729
>floor was collapsing under his feet
>there was no time to fight
>Lol luka could've totally dealt with this"
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>>181724671
Can't he fly?
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>>181724853
He's the only one who can break the atmosphere by flying.
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>>181724853
If he can TRTR decided it would be cool to never imply he could.
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>Make it all the way through part 1 and 2 without Sonya because you figured out she's only going to be trouble
>The game forces her into your party right before the end anyway

Oh come on
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>>181723729
omg noob ks i go afk bitch
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>>181698869
play game! good western visual novel!
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>>181724671
>no time
>enough to speak with his dad and watch him leave (as always).
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>>181725574
Yes there was enough time for a literal split second attack from Marcellus and for him to say about two sentences before skating off.
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>>181725574
Is Marcellus black
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>>181725795
Goku
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>>181726017
G-Goku Black?
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>>181726147
FUCK super GT was better
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>>181726580
All I heard was super goku actually dumber than abridged goku and that was enoughh for me not to watch
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>>181723729
>psssh nothin personnel
what happened that made marcellus so edgy
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>MGE is just a safespace waifu world
>orc is codependent to the point of committing sudoku at a whim
>dwarf and egg are literally toddlercon
>devil is literally just reskinned Alice
Last time I listen to you guys desu
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>>181723797
Her artist is fucking UN_DO, not Thomas.
TT wouldn't even have to ask to get new art, cut-ins, AND h-scenes for her.
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>>181723738
I bet he has the artificial spirits.
It would go well with him being a part-apoptosis cyborg.
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>>181727382
>my hot wife is dead
>why am I a robot
>I need to die
>why does my son get all the hot monster girls
>fuck micaela dead too
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>>181724326
>3day ntr for illias route
Considering the backlash TRTR got from NTR in the Vn
Chances Alice NTR-ing luka from Ilias are 0%
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>You will never be double penetrated by 12 inch apoptosis cocks
Why even wake up in the morning?
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>>181729713
>NTR backlash in the VN
What? From who? Was it with Meia?
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>>181725495
Sorry

If you can repeat that in proper English, I'll play it
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>>181729686
>now my son is fucking loli reincarnations of my wife and micaela
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>>181727382
>save the world babby boy I'm saving existence itself
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>>181729898
Probably Granberia
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>>181729713
NTR? was it the last part were they try to seduce him?
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>>181729898
Granberia and Alma Elma.
Even a lot of us stopped taking Granberia seriously as a waifu or fighter after that incident.
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>>181730174
>Even a lot of us
You mean a handful of people from a general on a Nepalese goblin giant alpaca wool knitting forum?
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>>181730174
Like anyone cares what you think
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>>181729909
He's probably some autistic south asian fucker.
Leave him and his broken english be
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>>181730174
I don't believe you
>>
at least we're not /mgqg/
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Where the fuck is the Yamatai village chief? can't find him.
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>>181731232
In the large house with the sign in front of it within the house halfway to the north in the eastern section.
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>>181731232
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Characters you became unexpectedly attached to as party members.
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>>181731841
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>>181731841
Too bad her time is short...
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>>181731841
Hild is cute, CUTE!
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>>181731841
>says she is both a ghost and a slime
>only has ghost as a race
fucking LYING bitch
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>>181731841
Pochi such a cute little puppy
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>>181731841
Vore skill that hits everyone.
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>>181733245
>vore scenes: skip
Best option desu
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>>181733784
I only like her vore for mobs. I wish she wasn't a vore monster, but since it works in gameplay I give her an exception.
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I somehow missed an orb..
Got the red, blue, green, yellow and silver one - got the last one out of the monster lord's castle and now i'm left dazed and confused
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>>181731841
>beat Adramelech, assume my part 1 party's finalised
>oh hi
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>>181734069
to clarify, I've got the one from Sphinx, I've got one from beating Poseidon, I have beaten the queens (not too sure if this actually gave you some of these), also I've recieved one from the Elf Princess and also one from the castle
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>>181734545
nevermind, I screwed up
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>>181734069
>>181734665
With those colors, I assume you lack Purple, which is Selene's ghost ship.
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>Trying to decide on a Marine race character to use on Ilias Route
>Almost all of them off-putting as fuck
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What are your Last dying words before being turned into dried fish?
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>>181737482
What all generic NPCs say
>AAAAIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>181737482
"I just wanted to be a shinkibus as weeeeellllllll."
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>>181737482
Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good, and let me be judged accordingly. The rest... is silence.
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>>181737482
My fish cannot be dried!
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>>181737482
Second Coming
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Chi pa pa!
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>>181721365
Ilias Beam? How do you unlock that?
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>>181737468
Even this one?
What about crab girl?
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Looking at part 1 and 2 of the VN, the only characters we're missing are the chimeras, Elder succubus, Yao, and of course the heavenly knights.
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>>181739026
no ass
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How long does survival last until you don't get any rewards and it's just endless killing of rounds for the sake of it?

I think I got a reward around 20-25 or something, and now im at 50+ and haven't gotten anything
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>>181739527
You get the gold at 10 rounds
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>>181739026
Why is this seacow so smug? Her tutu isn't even around her waist! Her scarf doesn't match her clothes! She's purple!
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>>181740142
She has large tiddies
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>>181740581
So does 90% of the cast!
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>>181740740
Except Morri-chan!
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>>181740851
Delete this! Her breasts are large, that's just an unflattering angle!
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This thing needs to be updated for Paradox part 2.
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>>181740964
Never! Morri-chan is a flat dork
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>>181740968
What am I even looking at
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>>181741106
Jokes on you, flat is justice ! Morrigan best shikibus !
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>>181740851
>>181741106
Delete this, idiot.
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>>181741106
Fucking shut your mouth you piece of shit! Morrigan's more than ample bosom is bigger than anything you've seen in your life you stupid virgin! They're big!
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>>181741306
>>181741340
Is that Lilith sisters talking?
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>>181741106
Do not bully Morri-chan. She is perfect.
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>>181741106
>>181741306
Not only flat but also but pathetic at sex skills...using auras to get off her victims...
My my could it be the dreaded Morrigan is a virgin herself...?
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>>181742412
Her feet are more than you deserve!
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>>181742412
Monsters of this era are pathetic, they don't even know what sex aura is. What would take ordinary succubi weeks, she did in a half hour.
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>Lucifina with like 4000 Magic and several magic boosting abilities does 50k damage to a polar bear exploiying its Fire weakness
>An uninvested Micaela with 1800 Attack does 54k with her strongest attack, Eden 46k
Is Magic bad or what?
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>>181742783
But I want a naizuri from Morri-chan!
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>>181743268
Wouldn't surprise me. Magic is often shit.
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>>181743268
>>181743328
>TFW Grangold King can do 180,000+ Damage in a single attack that hits everything with only 3000
>Sometimes not even Luka with buffs can do that much

Some characters are better than others......
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>>181743716
>180,000+
Get on my level
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What's the highest damage you be seen?
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>>181743316
Fucking bastard, if I see you in the street I'll kill you! Morrigan's breasts are the biggest in the world!
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>>181744086
Morrigan getting roasted in this thread
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>>181739026
post more mammary mamano
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>>181741106
Actually, she's just average.
Which is even worse than being flat.
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>>181745449
Yay Saki! Kira~
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>Belzeebub A: ahh, this age is terrifying..
>Belzeebub B: how are we gonna cope?
>Belzeebub C: the dango is delicious

>Belzeebub A: what are we gonna do now?
>Belzeebub B: I want to get sealed again
>Belzeebub C: the dango...

Why is C so fucking cute?
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>>181745449
Average is good. They fit perfectly in your hands.
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>>181745958
Belzeebubs are adorable in paradox.

Which is saying something after they did.... that.....

Hell they even resolve to captain Selen to never destroy the world or summon the apocalypse, because theirs one currently going on in their eyes (and their not wrong.)

Paradox World > VN World
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>>181745958
I just realized that this is a parody of the lilim sisters being reawakened from the VN.
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>>181746327
Waking up suddenly only to find out that the legendary monsters are back, new gods, and a lot of fuck up things in Tartarus. Yeah I would be scared too.
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>>181746193
I have big hands
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>Cassandra's mucus heals friend's wounds! >Emily recovers 370659 HP!
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>>181745958
can we kill them?
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>>181747065
Don't forget the first thing you fight is a killing machine descendant from space-time altering heroes and a literal goddess of creation
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>>181747142
Then get a big girl
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Which orb am i missing? i'm losing my fucking mind right now.
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>>181747360
Oh yeah man like I've said the Paradox world has it's moments but when it's fucked well it gets pretty fucked. Also did anybody update the Luka family tree?
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>>181747287
>370659
Its like Shikimamo healed herself holy fuck.

Where do you even find Cassandra/Emile?
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>>181747287
>he didn't wipe them out on the first turn
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>>181747579
You go to the magical girl battle fucker then go into the poison swamp again.
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>>181747498
Red

Elf Princess
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>>181747758
>magical girl battle fucker
Can't wait to recruit her, I bet she'll be pretty strong too
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>>181747731
>Playing on normal
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>>181748219
nah boi
Paradox or go home
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>>181747758
>magical girl battle fucker then go into the poison swamp
I don't know where these are.
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>>181748417
So you're saying that you could do 400k unbuffed AOE damage pre-Tartarus?
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Are succubi the most common type of monster in MGQ?
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>>181748708
Magical girl is in the town near the poison swamp before Grangold. If you don't know any of that then you're too early to ask these questions.
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>>181748915
No? Apoptosis is.
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>>181748898
If you were LoC capable in part 1 and took your time in Part 2, it's not hard.
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>>181749195
>If you were LoC c-
And I no longer care. Why have so many people tried to brag what they can do with their LoC teams with hundreds of attack seeds eaten?
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>>181749528
You take that back right now, I never ate any seeds.
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>>181749671
You ate my seed
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>>181749528
And I wonder when will someone care enough to post a tier list for a normal playthrough that doesn't involve grinding every class and race.
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>>181749757
No way fag.
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>>181749053
Nope there are 27+ succubi while there are 19+ apoptosis.
You just remember the apoptosis more because of how vivid their designs are.
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>>181745958
They were always cute when one of them wasn't trying to fill up your ass with eggs.
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>>181749671
Never. If you can do 400k UNBUFFED without even having access to tier 3 jobs, races, and abilities, then your stats are so hilariously inflated that your name must be andrew dobson.
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>>181749960
>They were always cute when one of them wasn't trying to fill up your ass with eggs.
I knew I didn't have bad tastes.
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>>181750012
Are you calling me a cheater? Fuck you. I never cheated.
>>
Is Paradox difficulty even possible with Luka solo? and is it even possible on part 2 ng+? This game feels balanced around having multiple members, but that accessory and ability to buff stats for missing party members might be enough.
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>>181749904

>Grind

Why not just hack them at the maximum possible level?
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>>181750572
>Paradox difficulty even possible with Luka solo
no.

jesus christ no.
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>>181745958
Do they still get an h-scene?
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>>181750683
At that point why be willing to put enough effort to hack it when I can use part 3 ng+ Luka, Alice/Ilias, or that team I wanted anyways
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>>181748209
Prepare for disappointment, Magical Girl has some of the shittiest abilities ever.
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>alice route gets morrigan
>iliasfags claimed they have a better route
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>>181750762
Yes
10 aff for hugs with those booby abdomen appendage things they have, and 100 with the main one for reverse rape+bum drilling
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>>181748209

>Not wanting the Justice instead

Does your heart not burn with passion?
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>>181751194
>Alice gets the shittiest succubus sister
>Illias gets Eden
>not being better
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>>181751194
>alice route gets morrigan
>iliasfags claimed they have a better route

You're right we only get:
Eden,Loli Michaela,loli Lucifena,mother fucking Heinrich
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>>181748219

I have to second this. I tried on normal as I'm a coward and am kinda surprised at how easy I'm blowing through random encounters.

I might change the difficulty to hard as this is just laughable.

Also anyone know some good classes for Ilias/Alice? I was thinking of making Ilias into a Pope but I'm not certain.
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>>181751334
So Luka can just walk around half of part 2 with a clutch of ass maggot daughters living inside him?
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>>181750572
I heavily, heavily, heavily doubt it.
>Gnome goes from useful to life or death mandatory
>You have to take the full brunt of every multihit attack
>Defense and willpower have very little impact on damage when enemy stats are that high. It's all about the resists and you can't possibly cover everything.
>You won't be able to maintain buffs on yourself and still find the time to attack. Also, dispel/waves will be the death of you
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>>181751447
>morrigan "shittiest"
>thinks a fat vanilla angel is better
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>>181751556
lmao i can slap my dick onto the keyboard and trash everything on hard
>>
The bunny girl is surprisingly helpful, even if some of her lines aren't translated, is it best to leave her as bow and arrow user.
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>>181751662
I haven't read it, maybe they don't lay eggs and just fuck his ass
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What monsters are you guys looking forward to most in part 2? I'm a fan of arekishi's oppai lolis but paizuri doll looks good, too.
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>>181751889
Morrigan is the worst out of the three and Eden is always number one, so try again, friend
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>>181751889
>thinks a fat vanilla angel is better
You really have to be gay to not like Eden's body
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>>181751194
>>181751889
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>>181751556
I played through on Normal and the final boss was doing enough damage to kill my dudes in one hit. I don't know what steroids everyone is taking.

>>181751194
I can live without the succubus sisters really. I'm more disappointed in the lack of Black Alice
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>>181751889
A literal imp has her beat in terms of bust size. Morri worst succubut.
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>>181752153
Oh... an arekishi paizuri scene... again...
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>>181752153
>>181752813
That isn't Arekishi you plebs.
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>>181752813
>Arekishi
>Paizuri doll
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>>181752562
Join us in the church of paradox anon. Once you play for a few hours your eyes will forever be opened.
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>>181752562

Final boss died in like two turns for me.

Then again I had Chef Teeny superbuff my party, dance, focus attack, then killed her in one round.
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>>181752153
The bird and the cat!
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>>181753274
Why don't you use Chef to buff before the battle even starts?
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>>181753980

That's what I did.

Still took a turn to basically charge everyone's attacks.
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>>181753323
I wonder if other Black Alice cronies are dumb retards too?
The monkey seemed pretty laid-back but not too dumb
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>>181754512
tezcatlipoca is a good kitty!
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>>181754965
I like how if you talk to her in battle one of the dialogue choices is her asking you to scratch under her chin.

And one of the options is to uppercut her in the chin
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>>181754965
I don't want to a cheetah-taur, but Tezcat is so fucking cute!
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>>181754512
Azidahaka seemed pretty competent at least. I doubt Izanami or the Alices are going to be jokesters either.
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>>181755409
Well, the Alices are just puppets, so...
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Based UN_DO
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>>181755742
Maybe the puppeteer will have a sense of humor and they're actually just used in a comedy bit
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>>181755112
Can you recruit her?
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UHHHH
THICKER
>>
Wasn't there a way to check the status resistances of each character? I can find it, but maybe i'm just remembering wrong. Can someone help me?
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>>181756081
Not yet.
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>>181756116
Lilith looks weird as shit when drawn by Un_Do though.
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Exercising with monmusu!
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>>181756206
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>>181756653
Man, vampires suck.
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>>181756653
Fuck i was searching for it in the library, that's why. So i can't check the enemy's resistances, i needed it for that. Oh well, will do somehow. Thanks anyway anon.
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>>181756653
>He uses the cute bandits
My man
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>>181756858
there is no difference between vampire and succubi
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>>181756858
>drawn by silk
>too much cape shit
UN_DO's vampires are better
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>>181757067
leave silk alone
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>>181756059
She didn't seem like the joking type
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>>181757067
>>
akazawa red? more like "rather be dead"
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>>181756987
Succubus=overused slut
Vampire=human woman 2.0
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>>181756987
I was mocking their status resist and making a standard suck pun.

>>181757067
>>181757148
>>181757391
>>181757465
Vampire Queen is good, don't be mean.
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>>181757465
Nah man
This is woman 2.0
By the way what are her stats going to be?
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>>181756987
>>181757465
where did the imp touch you
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>>181757391
is this UN_DO's best ass?
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>>181758601
No
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>>181758040
>Wants the imp to touch me.
Why can't they be real!?
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>>181694087
You'll pay for that!
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>>181759201
>wake up
>harpies are not real
>>
I've been gone for a while
Did my girl mary get a new scene in part 2
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>>181759941
No
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>>181759941
literally who lmao
>>
>>181756981

I actually use Teeny for support

Maid + Cooking for support is great, add in you can make her a dancer and it becomes gravy.
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>>181760028
rip
>>181760046
One of the cutest
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>>181759941
no girls besides i think promestein and illias/alice got any additional scenes in pt2
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>>181760423
>been gone for awhile
>first posted in november of last year
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/filename/1324135411.png/
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I want to hug Rami-chan!
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>>181760956
no ass
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>>181760956
I want to rug Rami-chan!
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>>181760653
Im not sure what you're trying to imply
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>>181761090
If you're gonna rug someone, rug Pisslias instead.
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>>181760956
>Using exhentai's shitty converted jpgs
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>>181757986
No, that's woman 3.0.
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>>181761750
>setouchi
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Fuck, forgot to spoiler it.
It's been about two weeks. Is anyone still just getting into Paradox 2?
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>>181762005
Yes
Do I need ilias if I want to potentially fug a lucifina
who do I get from having alice
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>>181761869
>>181688401
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>>181762118
>who do I get from having alice
Another Alice and no one memorable.
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>>181762118
lilith/llim, morrigan, human form black alice
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>>181762118
You get shikibus, which means alice is clearly superior
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>>181762118
Alice exclusives include Lilim+Lilith, The Lilith sisters(though only Morrigan at the moment) and Alicetroemeria(and presumably Black Alice eventually)

Ilias exclusives are Michaela, Lucifina, Eden, and Heinrich
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>>181762278
>pisslias fags in full damage control
lmao
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>>181762118
You get Black Alice from 500 years ago, Lilith/Lilim (The weaker dipshits) and Morrigan.
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>>181761869
What are you implying?
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>>181762118
>who do I get from having alice
The flat fish drier
>>
Its a shame considering both sides have some good characters, which do you dudes think I should go with-- alice or ilias
I'll probably rerun a bit of part 1 before I start part 2
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>>181762390

>Lucifina

Oh god is there going to be a scene where Luka is raped by her? By his own mother?
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>>181762802
Illias definitely if it's your first time through
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>>181763010
There is one, she's pretty crazy in it too
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>>181762396

Joke's on you, I like watersports
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>>181762416
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>>181763374
that scene was fucked up
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzNdpcBoM4I

For your listening pleasure.
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>>181763083
More interesting storywise or is it just because the characters are strong? My team is geared up from chaos labyrinth
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>>181762802
Still need to do alice's part 2 route but thus far illias has been more interesting plot wise, though im not looking forward to high tier angel monstrosities that will likely plague part 3 and may end up stuck with
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>>181763575
Storywise
>>
>just completed part 1
>Had amazing time
>See that part 2 isn't translated yet

So do I just shitpost here for two years?
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>>181762390
What's the passives on Ilias's recruits? I remember seeing Alice's being posted here before.
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>>181763575
The biggest differences happen in part 3 so can't really say at the moment. The differences in the first 2 parts aren't really that significant(except for the very end)

I'd say most people would recommend Ilias mainly just because the original series already had Alice as a heroine whereas Ilias was a villain so given the choice, it'd be more fresh to pick the choice where you get to see a villain slowly turn into a hero instead of just having another adventure with Alice.

Of course if you just really fucking love Alice that much(or you just can't stand Ilias) then feel free to pick her
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>>181763846
MACHINE
TRANSLATOR
BOIIIIIII
>>
Hey, can anyone say, which skill illias teach to luka in last camp, cause i accidently skip it.
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>>181763906

Alice does seem better stat wise though.

All those damn races to choose from. Ilias does get holy magic which I think nothing in part 1 resists (At least in the main game that you're expected to fight) and probably for a good section of part 2.

>>181764150

I think I had enough of that during Violated Heroine when Nanako constantly said "Good food" according to the translator
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>>181764324
>violated heroine
keep that shit in /hgg2d/ cuckboy
>>
>>181764150
how comprehensible is the machine translation?
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>nuruko gives luka a beetle
Chaos child confirmed.
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>>181765134
Terrible, just wait for Rogue and Dargoth.
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>>181763860
Heinrich:
Always equip swords/heavy swords
Always has sword skills and hero skills
Hero Skills do 50% more damage but cost 33% more SP

Eden
Can always equip spears/heavy spears
Can always use spear and holy skills
Spear and holy skills do 50% more damage but cost 33% more SP

Lucifina
All holy elemental attacks(not just the skill set) do 30% more damage
Bow skills, white magic, and black magic always available
Bow skills, white magic, and black magic are 30% more effective.

Michaela
All holy elemental attacks(not just the skill set) do 30% more damage
Can always use sword and spear skills
Sword and spear skills are 30% more effective
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>>181765421

Holy shit the abilities Lucifina and Michaela get shit all over everyone else such as Luka and Alice/Ilias

Do they get a buff to compensate for this?
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>>181765939
Not in pt2
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>>181766148

Well shit. Lucifina appears to an Ilias ++. Heinrich at least has high costs but 50% is just nuts.

I'm wondering what, if any, buffs they'll get.
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>>181765421
>>181766450
Yes, almost every character from part is irrelevant now. Even the main cast.
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>>181766450
More than likely illias/alice/luka will get a nice power boost in pt 3 and/or get a special class/skills
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Can you start a second NG+ after your first one?
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>>181766730
>*from part 1
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>>181743268
The heck. My Michaela has around 2000+ attack and she can do 200L damage with her strongest attack. I think you just didn't build her properly.
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>>181765134
It's pretty decent. Enough to get a general understand of what everyone is saying and doing
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>>181762005
Dude that's male version beta
Ilias had to get rid of this part as it was too buggy
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>>181765134
It worked well enough for me and I was only using shitty chiitrans. I never needed to use the pastebin guide, and I even helped add a quest or two to it.
The trick is to be patient. I dunno about other translators, but chiitrans lets you hover over the japanese words for more definitions. That feature was a godsend when the normal text was too jumbled to quite understand. Make sure to look for any red fine print that says "negative" under the definitions though.
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does witch alice hev scene?
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>>181766730
Letting you get the queens and grangold in pt2 was too much, plus some of the route exlusive chars. Alot of the pt1 chars cant even compete unless you heavily grinded them, granted this only really matters on higher difficulties
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>>181767427
>hev scene
is blowjob only
sorry komrad
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>>181767590
so, no hatjob...
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>>181767590
She's saving her pussy for Heinrich.
Little does she know that the only thing he'll be inserting into her is a sword.
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>>181767590
>just copied Sara's blowjob
lazy as fuck setouchi
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>>181767828
you think she still got off anyway
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>>181767548
>Letting you get the queens and grangold in pt2 was too much
Torotoro obviously has big plans for part 3. Getting these fucks out of the way now leaves me hopeful for what we will get.
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>>181768024
Part 2 was good.
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>>181768024
That's my hope, just disappointed at how wide the gap in power is with pt1 chars and part2 and dont want to repeat it in pt3, pt2 chars are already pretty absurd in abilities, not to mention none of the pt1 girls even had any additional events(aside from dragon/vamp bandits)/scenes
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>>181766450
The part 3 characters will be even stronger.

Alma Elma's passives grants 50% more damage on Martial Arts and pleasure attacks with no strings attached unlike the 33% SP increase like Eden and Heinrich. Stuff like that will probably be the norm once you get to that point.
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>>181768368
Luka's dealing with some destruction of the dimension tier bullshit in part 3, of course shit is gonna be OP
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Would you like an Impregnation mechanic in Paradox 3?
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>>181768368
TrTr is going to have to use up-arrow notation for part 3
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>>181768684
No.
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>>181768684

Luka's a male, he can't have children.
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>>181768684
Should there also be a child support mechanic? Will the next pocket castle area be a playpen?
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>erubettie gives pocket money to slimes
>alma likes music and painting
>granberria is granberria
Talking is always fun.
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>>181768995
>playpen
>Luka's few hundred children are all happily playing with eachother.

Great job Hero theres now a few hundred extra Angel-Human-Monster|Angel-Human-Apopitis|Angel-Human uber powerful combinations now.

At least the Gene-Pool has gained something from this.
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>>181768684
like in fable?
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>>181769009
They are wholly different people from their VN counterparts, it's not the same as canon...
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>>181769174
You can fuck anything!
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>>181768684
I dunno about that, but I'm still waiting for a rape scene that has a flashforward to the girl being pregnant while fucking Luka.
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>>181769518
>have entire group of people classified as battle fuckers
>can't actually fuck any of them
its almost like molyneux himself coined the term
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>>181769485
Not really. Aside from Erubetie, who is much less antagonistic towards coexistence for obvious reasons, they are pretty much what you'd expect them to be. Erubetie even gives you jelly if you raise her affinity high enough and tells you to eat it.
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>>181769725
thats cause they are humans anon
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>>181769817
They may be the same in personality but they have lived in different environments and fought different battles. They have different experiences, therefore they are different people.
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>>181769817
It's made with love so it's safe don't worry.
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>>181769725
It's a wholesome Illias approved sport though. Why would they have actual sex? Especially since humans can't just choose to not get pregnant like monsters.
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>>181770118
Does it matter? I wasn't trying to debate their existence, fucking hell.
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>>181769725
KATE SCENE WHEN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>181769817
>jelly if you raise her affinity high enough and tells you to eat it.
After everything thats different......
After everything crazy that happens.......
Erubetie is STILL after Luka and a Shotacon.
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>>181662224
Sauce?
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>>181770248
Just because their paradox counterparts have a hobby doesn't mean their VN counterparts do.
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>>181771528
And it doesn't mean they don't either. Difference is the game is saying something about it here and you're just making assumptions. Why are you even making this an argument?
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While walking home from the gym, you find a lamp. After refusing to fuck you, the genie inside offers you four choices
>A) Instantly get a fully translated copy of Paradox Part 1 and Part 2
>B) Instantly get an untranslated copy of Paradox Part 3
>C) Your choice of Riot, Elizabeth, or Twinkell will come to your house and fuck you in the ass once a month. They will ONLY diddle your butt and any attempts to force them to do anything otherwise will result in a savage beating. The real kind of beating, not the MGQ kind. They will also obfuscate themselves with magic, so you can't show them to others.
>D) Any monster of your choice will dry your fish. You will not be healed/revived and death is guarenteed. If anyone tries to save you then they will be killed as well.
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>>181771829
A
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>>181771829
B, duh
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>>181771528

Wasn't Alma Elma's hobby basically being a giant troll?
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>>181771829
>B) Instantly get an untranslated copy of Paradox Part 3
I am going to spoiler everything, and i am gonna try my damnest to translate what i can for the glory of everyone else.

Also ill send it to Dargoth.
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albert was fuckig shit, and rui ewrything :3
as the usual
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>>181771310
It's hard to not fall into the Luka charm. Most of every monster girl and Angel wants a piece of Luka. Even his daughters and another version of his mother and auntie want Luka.
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Since Nero is part echidna, could he grow a vagina if he wanted?
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guys
My resolve is crumbling, I can't take the wait.
How shit is google translator, honestly?
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>>181772834
No.
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>>181772839
Good enough to let you understand most things, longer sentences and weird speaking styles from girls will give it some trouble though.
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>>181772839
The 3 year wait until part 3 is probably going to be harder anyway
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>>181772839
Neural networks have advanced machine translation by leaps and bounds.
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So, how do I set up the machine translation/
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>>181772839
It's bearable for a rough understanding of dialogue/events
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>>181772273
Needs to be reversed, Lucifina loves to see the chaos caused by Eden's voice.
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>>181772273

That's Eden saying "I'm Eden onee-san"
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hopefully there's a sidequest where lolistien injects seaweed into herself and unlocks a new form.
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>>181773645
Press the buttons when prompted
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>>181774769
Lolistien injected White Rabbit into Bunni-Slime, which actually does change her race!
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>>181775018
it was not white rabbit it was beast extract
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>>181774769
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>>181774769
Considering there's 4 different data stat sets for Promestein, yeah. She'll actually have 4 different forms. The White Rabbit drug form might even be one of them considering I can't think of what else the 4th would be
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>>181775018

It wasn't the white rabbit that was something else, I liked how the Promestein theme started playing for it though.
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>>181768368
Well, you know, Adramalek from Part 1 only has as much HP as a few mid-game mobs do in Part 2.
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>>181775568
She was a disappointing final boss.
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>>181775739
Mm. Chaos Sonya was much harder for me. Should have had on some Trance (Seduction?) Checks.
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>>181775894
That would be a better balancing decision than merging ability stacks.
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"LOOK AT ME.

I AM HEINRICH NOW." ~ Luka Hein
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>>181773061
>>181773219
>>181773337
>>181773787
Thanks anons, sounds like it's worth at least trying out.
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>>181776443
Heinrich doesn't seem like the kind of warrior who would use a shield.
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>>181776785
Too bad, trtr likes his sword and bored classes that's final.
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>>181776443
"Heinrich's Sword"

Wouldn't that be Angel Halo...?
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>>181777248
No, Heinrich IS Angel Halo.
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>>181777325
That's even worse. You're wielding his legendary sword and it's him!
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If part 3 comes out will it be GOTY even tough it was divided on 3 parts? i really dig the damn plot that these games have and all the small stuff, not only that but for being a porn game it also talk deeply about many other stuff.
feels like im playing a game with porn at a sidedish
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>>181776043
>The issue is that stats could be stacked to an insane degree
>The fix to this would be to just slap some extra avoidable status effects on bosses
Do you work for Blizzard?
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>>181777673
The sword that Heinrich used before his fall =/= Angel Halo. Heinrich literally hated angels so much that he got corrupted into a sword and berserker meant to kill angels.
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>>181777248
That brings up a good point though. We know that Nero stole Angelo Halo from Luka/Alice, but what happened to Heinrich's Angelo Halo?

Did Nero literally go around stealing every Angel Halo and that's why it doesn't seem to be around anymore
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>>181778093
That's just being anal. The sword didn't achieve it's current form until he did what he did, but he still had a sword forged from angels given to him by Lucifina at the start of his journey.
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>>181778107
It's the same sword. Luka's Angel Halo looks the way it does because of Heinrich killing so many angels with it. It absorbed all their essence and transformed into its current appearance.

The Armored Berserker is simply a Heinrich who still has Angel Halo and got mutated by it. In the original timeline, he was killed and his soul sealed before that happened.
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>>181778273
>>181778243
Wait I thought he got Proto-Angel Halo after the incident with Black Alice
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>>181778273
It's not the 'same sword' because one is 500 years into the future and from a different dimension. Nero stealing one isn't somehow going to get rid of the one Heinrich had in the past unless like I said, he stole it from him too
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>>181778450
What? Why are you confused?

>>181778626
Context. Other anon seems confused about what happened to Heinrich's Angel Halo. Unless he thought Heinrich was wielding Angel Halo in his entire adventure for some reason.
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>>181778273
Given that Armored Berserker resembles a Luka who was succumbing to his Angel powers (Nero even remarks that his form isn't truly corporeal and will reform itself in time), its possible that he comes from a time where he was victorious in his purge.
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>>181778450
Tamamo said he got it from the start and Lilith+Lilim also recognized the sword in the original VN so he used it on them at least(at least in the original timelime)
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>>181778716
>Unless he thought Heinrich was wielding Angel Halo in his entire adventure for some reason.

Why wouldn't he though? He had it from the start and he doesn't seem like the type that would want to needlessly harm monsters.

Why wouldn't he use it the entire adventure?
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>>181776785
When you recruit him he dual wields.
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>>181778273
No it's not the same sword, otherwise monsters would get sealed when you use it on them. You do remember Lucifina made Angel Halo out of 666 angels right?
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>>181778937
Because Lucifina gave it to him. Why would she give such a powerful weapon to some no name adventurer who hadn't accomplished shit
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>>181779273
Say what? What does that have to do with whether Heinrich decides to use it or not? I don't understand the logic to that
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>>181777248
Luka kept his iron sword with him his whole adventure; having Angel Halo doesn't preclude him from having another sword, especially since Heinrich does "kill" Black Alice in his journey.
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>>181706394
You don't happen to have one without the names do you?
It would make this process less tedious.
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>>181779463
This is true, though it's funny how the one he used to kill Black Alice was apparently procured for the Remina experiment. Whatever sword is being dubbed as the legendary Heinrich sword isn't really so legendary.

I think the Heinrich equipment is all fake man. Doesn't add up!
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>>181776443

>those stats

Is the low end of stats in part three going to be 8000 or something?
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How do you get the Goddard blacksmith to actually smith anything after you finish the war?

Or do i need to get the JUSTICE custom from somewhere else? Also who the fuck smiths rainbow items? i cant find them.
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SHOCKING: New exposé suggests harpies are considered one of the best species of monster girls.
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>>181731704
can you detail the yamtai quests necessary to move on and find princess elf besides finding the squirrel thing in the orichi cave, beating white snake, and finding the neko that responds to you?
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>>181781963
>peaceful species, gets along with humanity just fine
>willing to work hard and play hard, fine with you having a human wife because they understand
>sex is probably vanilla as fuck and absolutely fluffy
>still not real
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Is pastebin down? I can't access any of them
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>>181734545
how did you get to elf princess? some of the yamtai quests but im not sure what im missing
1 beaten white snake
2 found the tamawhatever squirrel delivery person in orichi cave
3 found the special cat (not really) at the cat shrine

cant get any changes out of the rats in front of the snake coin or anything out of the fox shrine
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>>181781963

What fake news source did you hear that from?
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>>181781963
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>>181782394
The only other one is talking to Nero and Tamamo in the fox shrine. The fox shrine portion was only necessary during my Alice playthrough, while Ilias route didn't require it. Did you turn in the quest with the village chief and receive the job change item?

Also, did you have the meeting where the orbs are mentioned, or are you just assuming you're that far because of the guide? It may be worthwhile to make sure that you reported to the 4 leaders after defeating the 5 queens.
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>>181781963
see
>>181759524
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>>181781963
Well of course, considering they're descended from best Ancestor!
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How on earth do I get into that forest tower in happiness village, I cleared up the slime girl issue in another town, ended up in pornof, a place that honestly might be better off burned to the ground, and am still grinding out this shitty Guard job for Luka. did I mess up somewhere? was i actually suppose to conquer the battle fuckers already? the maid, the bunny girl, the kung fu chick , don the thief do way too much damage
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Ah the congregation of heathens repulsive as always, Unwilling to hear the words of the almighty goddess Ilias though i suspect her merciful nature is really the only reason you affronts to humanity and angels alike are allowed your repugnant existence. Should she decide to utterly vaporize the monster lords heathen fringe collective Those who serve Ilias should do what is right and help destroy them.
Remember monsters are responsible for all ilk the world experiences.
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>>181784181
https://pastebin.com/zaNGkJF2
martial artist is a way better job
go to happiness village and enter the tree right next to it and go to the top floor and talk to the NPC there
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>>181784181
>forest tower
Did you inspect the Queen's room at the top of the Harpy village?
>Battle fuckers
Nah, they take some time to beat. More often then not you can only beat them one or two towns later, if you level properly
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>>181784181
You were in Pornof looking for a rabbit girl. There should be one in the inn, which will tell you where to go next. You can do the happiness village quest after that.
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>>181784260
Shitty stupid piss stained barfangel! Raphaela exposed as the liar she is!
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>Dullahan's only scene is a weird hairjob
Which other girls are wasted opportunities for good scenes?
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>>181784580
Will she succ like Gnosis?
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>>181784580
Heretical lies.
As expected from a heathen.

Would you jump off a cliff because "Raphaela exposed the dangers of living"?
Wait don't answer you probably would you mindless heathen puppet.
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>>181784761
its masha what do you expect
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>>181783171
thank you so much, i've been stuck at yamtai for ages, i was on ilias route, so nero/tamamo fox shrine wasnt a thing, before/after the questline
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>>181784913
>masha's only good scene is vampire's
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>>181784181
>shitty Guard job
That job is better than hero or warrior because those get maxed out for free.
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>>181785198
>for free
>when the game is 70% over
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>>181784379
Damn, I already have Guard to level 9, jobs are mastered at 10,right? I might as well finish up before changing to kung fu Luka,oh well, at least this'll mean I can change him and Sonya together, I got a bunch of golden objects for them but IIias with a Killer bow and the rabbit girl with the gold one make them both killing machines, I was able to take care of the 3 rapist slugs in 2 rounds because of them.

>>181784521
I found one in the underground casino and she was a battle fucker I lost against. I assume you're talking about a different rabbit.

>>181784761
Damn, that sucks to hear. I'm already having trouble finding girls I want to crank it,to in this game, Sonya got Xelvy'd, Hip's scene looks like she's making out with some dirty doll of Luka,rabbit girl's scenes aren't long enough and most of my castle are abominations and lolis.
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>>181785310
>job grinding before part 1 is over
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>>181785384
>I found one in the underground casino and she was a battle fucker I lost against. I assume you're talking about a different rabbit.
The pink haired one in the inn. An actual rabbit monster, not a human BF dressed as one.
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>>181785384
Guard is valuable down the road for unlocking the Hero of Justice class. If you weren't going to level Guard now you'd do it later so it's no big deal.
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>"You marred a Slug girl?! I hope you're ready for slug hell when you die!"
That and the youth basically telling Luka's group to fuck off when they came to save from slug threesome rape really make me wonder how the hell anybody could be a virgin in this setting, man or woman, monsters aren't picky at all even crusty old fuckers like the happiness village chief fucks a lolish looking harpy despite being married, really makes me wonder if battle fucking became a thing less because of a sport and more as a desperate bid for human women to keep from being NTRd by monster and apparently angels. haven't seen any personally but the NPCs talk like those species are just as eager to tease humans as the monsters are.
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What classes would you recommend luka leveling in
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>>181784913
>brown hair Luka STILL not fixed
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>>181785997
Everything not magic, and a few magic just for the abilities. He's going to stay the whole journey so he should learn everything.
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>>181785997
Luka's trait gives hims access to sword, holy and heroism skills all the time.
Apprentice Hero > Warrior > Swordsman > Magician > Spellsword > Priest > Martial Artist > Paladin > Overpowering Fist > Noble > King >Pope > Battle master.
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>>181785997
Informant is a good one for the talking skills, which will make recruiting easier. He can use talking skills regardless of job and race, which is not always true for other skills.
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>>181786397
Wait I thought he got access to all melee weapons
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>>181786397
>Apprentice Hero > Warrior > Swordsman
Don't do this, just wait until you get Hero for free so you get Apprentice Hero and Warrior maxed for nothing and save job exp
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>>181786390
A bit ironic since angels are great at magic.
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>>181786397
What classes should I level Sonya in? I plan on finishing her priest job but her damage is pathetic,even with the golden hammer I gave her, Slime and Frost crush aren't very helpful and she's the slowest in the party.
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>>181786772
He should at least get Sword, Spear, and Axe from melee skills, which have his event skills.
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>>181786854
>level Sonya
Protip: you don't
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>>181786772

Sword, axe, spear, holy and heroism.
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>>181787101
also talk cause he has it always correct
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>>181787212
That's not in his trait.
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>>181787265
It's a human thing.
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>>181786854
Yeah that's the problem. You're using Sonya. People make fun of her for being quote on quote useless.
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>>181787335
It is a human skill, but Luka can use talk regardless of what race he is.
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>>181787335
He keeps it as an angel, but it's not in his trait.
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>>181785997
>>181786713
Before you go on a recruitment grind, consider leveling up the Speech God job first since one of the skills there raises affection by 25, which is just 5 points behind gifting them stuff.

Also, get someone with one of the advanced tamer jobs to get a triple recruitment rate.
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>>181786949
He does. But not Katana, which has his Undine-related move. So you're forced to level one of the rank 3 Samurai jobs if you want permanent access to all four of his signature moves.
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>>181787515
Which is weird maybe in part three his trait will upgrade to add them
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>>181783171
I'm pretty sure on Illias route you still need it. I remember Illias saying something along the lines of, "There's nothing else to do at the Fox Shrine so I guess we can say it's complete?", after talking to Tamamo.
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>>181786854
i honestly wonder if the reason why shes such a useless unit might be that she may get a helluva powerboost for part 3
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>>181787676
Luka definitely getting a new trait in part 3 along with his Angel form
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new thread where?
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>>181787515
Luka isn't Japanese enough to wield the Folded Cold Steel Samurai Katana. The question is can Belted Nero do so?
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>>181786854

Level her up as warrior and then power fighter, go full club.
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Speaking of traits I find it weird Luka can use sword skills whenever but can't always equip swords
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>>181786854
>Sonya
>Useful
You need a healer? Alice can do it better as a priest or pope.

Clubs? They're fuckin worthless mate.

Sure she gets the Apoptosis races after part 2 but.... Shes more than useless right now.
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>>181788248
>>181788423
Damn, is Sara still useless,too? Why does Luka keep hanging out with big boobed short haired useless chicks? The only useful thing on them is their bodies and that's only if you have a little sister complex.
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Anyone know where to take Vanilla after talking to shop keeper in the Snow Continent ? Salaan wont talk to me nor Lazarus
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>>181788586
Oh If only you knew what Luka's true fetish is. You'd be surprised.
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>>181788665
Have you tried talking with Queen Vampire?
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>>181788586
>Why does Luka keep hanging out with big boobed short haired useless chicks? The only useful thing on them is their bodies and that's only if you have a little sister complex.
Jesus christ its like you can see through Luka and everything he likes in a woman.....
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How good are Slyph and Hild?
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>>181788792
You're kidding me? I mean, that sorta explains his attachment to them despite his somewhat bullying comments about them but really? I guess that explains why the rabbit girl keeps calling herself his sister in their h scenes.
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>>181789053
>Slyph
But why?
>Hild
She can be.... kinda useful... But i mean her primary purpose is to fuck the shota.
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>>181788586
I bet you are popular with the ladies
>>>/r9k/
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Is there a secret to making the distressed merchant appear so you can save him from the mandragora and get the merchant job?

It's my second playthrough after aborting the first one, so I went and did the four bandits quest first, but maybe leaving Talus Hill for later was a bad idea? Buying junk from Vanilla and talking to her a bunch does nothing. I then tried finally getting the soldier medal/guard job but no dice.

Maybe I broke the game?
I got this event to show up the first time I played, so this is weird. I just want to warp to towns.
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>>181790103
You just talk to his brother before going there.
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>>181789825

Chi pa pa.
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I can honestly say, I'd kill myself if my sisters were Sonya and Sara, one's a hot headed idiot,another's a dense idiot,even worse is because with their keeper they pose a massive threat to a number of people.
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>>181790103

Step 1: Talk to the merchant in iliasville
Step 2: save guy in Talus hill
Step 3: talk to vanilla

If that doesn't work.

Step 4: Complain on mggg that shit's fucked.
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>>181789053
Hild is useful in that she can do a lot of things and you need a robutt anyways for Daisy Bell, as it's a unique buff that stacks with pretty much everything
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>>181790408

Well, I should do the steps properly

Step 4: Go to merchant
Step 5: Go get beetle at Talus hill
Step 6: Talk to vanilla again, give beetle
Step 7: It should be done now
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