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/dag/+/bwg/ - Dragon Age & Bioware General #1077

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Titan edition

News:
>the BSN now is gone forever (but there's a backup somewhere so it's not really gone)
>Tyranny and Andromeda are out
>Pillars of Eternity 2 Deadfire announced (romance confirmed)
>Cyberpunk 2077 likely out before June 2019
>Bioware's new IP- Anthem, set for fall 2018
>Divinity Original Sin 2 coming out on September 14
>Dragon Age: Knight Errant #2 comic is out

Sales:
Inquisition GOTY PC $19.99

NOTE:
>We occasionally discuss other, smaller RPGs that don't have their own generals. This does not mean we are /wrpg/

Dragon Age Stuff:
>Check THIS before asking questions:
http://pastebin.com/NtncZWPf
>DA:O Mods
http://pastebin.com/n4vGHHHd

>How do I import my save into DA:I?
>http://www.dragonagekeep.com
You can use this website to create your own DA World History by bringing over your choices from the previous games. You need an Origin account.

>Where is my Warden?
At the beach, knocking back a few cold ones with the Architect.

>/dag/ (incomplete) Art Archive
http://dagnaart.imgur.com

>/dag/ booru
http://dagna.booru.org/index.php

>Help me /dag/+/bwg/, I want to watch something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBxn56l9WcU
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First for the cutest Leliana!
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Isabella's tits
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>>180572314
>>180572314
Previous thread, because I'm a dumbass.
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And Elven glory!
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>>180764653
>Solas with hair
Why would you make me look at this with my very own eyes?
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Fenris
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>>180764653
Best elf
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>>180764956
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>>180764901
What is wrong with Solas having hair anon? And Bioware may give him some hair in Dragon Age 4!
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>>180766437
Considering Leliana and Morrigan have the same hairstyles after ten years I wouldn't hold my breath
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>3 party members

Why is this allowed? I appreciate that Obsidian is bringing back 6 member parties but I can live with Dragon Age's four. 3 is fucking retarded.
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>>180766437
But I like him bald. I couldn't imagine him any other way.
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>>180766437
His bald look is too "famous" now, even Bioware made jokes about his "egg head" and they even made a shirt about it

The look of such important characters tend to be left as it is, because it's part of the reason why they are loved and appreciated in the first place.
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>>180764956
Penris!
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>>180766880
I see now why people praise his bald head. Sorry, Solas should remain bald!
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>>180766763
First playthrough? You should post some screenshots if so.
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>>180767105
Fenris!
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Oh yes, playthrough screenshots! I will start with Pride!
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>>180767239
You don't need to apologize, anon.
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>>180768029
Holy fuck, they've been really planning this since Origins like they said.
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>>180768560
Probably means there are more hints in Inquisition we haven't noticed. Besides the obvious Tevinter ones, Jaws of Hakkon and Trespasser introduced the snake people.
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>>180769315
And by Trespasser I mean The Descent.
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>>180769315
You mean that journal, right? It dates back to before the fall of Arlathan (but during its siege) where a dwarven warrior describes "scaled people" who killed his father and his companions.

Some think they might be humans (the dwarf says they are as tall as "the humans from the Imperium") who drank dragon blood, because drinking too much dragon blood caused some Reavers to "grow scales".
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>>180769782
There was also the guy from Jaws who wrote about snake people coming from the moon or something like that.
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>>180769315
Don't forget all that talks about spirits and their birth, and Geldauran's claim in JoH (he was a Forgotten One, the other side of the elven pantheon). Plus the Titans in The Descent, slowly "reaching the dreams again" and connecting with the first dwarf after millennia.
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>>180770402
I miss Justice. He was nice to have around before DA2 happened.
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>>180769315
This girl sums it up best. Thedas is fucked.

The World of Thedas 2 is also filled with stuff, I think the last three points come from that book in fact. It might be hiding more between the lines.
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>>180770692
It'd be wise to remember Bioware is likely to drop/never touch upon a few of these, at least not for a good while, like the Tirashan/Volca Sea/Amaranthine Sea stuff.

On that note I really wish we got to go to the Tirashan in Inquisition.
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>>180770497
Me too. At least they gave us another great spirit friend in Inquisition.
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>that image
I fucking love Dragon Age lore, man.

Hope they don't fuck DA4 up.
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>>180771087
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>>180770692
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>>180770847
Well, the Tirashan might play an important role, especially if we are going to learn more about the Forgotten Ones/the elven pantheon in general. Those elves are considered heretics even by other Dalish, they steal blood from the humans, and are incredibly creepy and violent, according to the soldiers guarding the borders. Their perspective of the world and their own lore must be fucked up.

There is also another journal in Trespasser, by the way, hidden in a ruined tower. A man managed to cross the Volca Sea, but was caught in a storm and was saved by a "beast" controlled by an elf.

This elf, who lived in a tower, offered him a place to stay. When the elf said he was the last of his kind, the traveler pointed out that elves actually still lived in the south, but the elf said things were not the same anymore and then showed him an eluvian, part of his family since generations.

>http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Codex_entry:_Moldy_Journal

So either this traveler met another ancient elf who was convinced he was alone in the world or a crazy modern elf who believed he was special because of his eluvian.
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>>180767551
Penris!
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>paragons are living dwarven gods
>they have the power to tip an election to their candidate of choice
>only one paragon is alive when you return to the assembly
>be dwarf noble with a legitimate claim to the throne and a paragon on your side
>can't become king/queen even though one of Orzammar's rulers went from casteless to king in one move
>but Alistair totally gets to be king

what did BioWare mean by this?
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>>180772118
Because Alistair isn't the hero of the game who on occasion has to up and leave to go on a mysterious journey.
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>>180770692
The Elves in the Tirashan forest are Ancient Elves, like the Sentinels from Mythal's Temple. If they are worshippers of the Forgotten Ones then something grim will happen.

Some anon asked me about the theory, "the third party responsible for the Second Sin." They are the Forgotten Ones, Blighted Ancient Elves trapped in the Void, who spoke with the Magister Lords in their dreams to invade the Golden City. They are the source of the Blight.
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>>180772702
But why would the Forgotten Ones want the magisters getting anywhere near the Evanuris? To try and kill them?
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>>180764548
I want to drink her underboob sweat
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>>180772980
I honestly don't know, their main objective was to spread the Taint in Thedas for some unknown purpose. Maybe to corrupt and destroy every last hibernating Old Dragon God?

As for the Evanuris, I think whatever magic is keeping them locked away is linked to the Veil. The Magisters could not have done anything to harm or save the Evanuris. The Magisterrs were kicked out of the Golden City as soon as they got blighted.
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>>180770997
Yes! I love Cole, he's so sweet.
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Cannot cuddle with you all at once!
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>>180774606
Why is your entire party dead again?
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>>180774720
I am too lazy to level them up and setup proper Tactics for each companion. No worries, my Cousland is immortal.
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>>180775237
Well, that's good at least.
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>>180775237
I thought your Cousland was Eternal.
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>>180775858
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>>180775858
Not so eternal against the Spectral High Dragon!
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>>180770692
I am excited for a new blight, I find that to be the most interesting.
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>>180776975
The Architect disagrees.
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>>180770692
Well, to add to the good things:
>Fereldan and Orlais are generally united through the Inquisition, which is still powerful despite being drastically cut in size (assuming it is kept together), perhaps includes the wardens, seekers, and mages
>The "prophet" I guess of the Titans in Valta seems to look up to the inquisitor perhaps
>The Qun seem to be generally honorable, and if indeed a new blight is coming, I wonder if they will stop to fight it.
>Tevinter has a chance in political revolution, once again surrounding the inquisitor
>The warden is seeking a cure for the Calling, its possible he/she will find it

DA2 was useless in the grand scheme of things, but assuming the "best of" choices are made in DAI, this is what I come up with to help fight all that shit.
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>>180772702
Wait, I thought the forgotten ones were the dragons
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>>180777909
No, where did you get that information? The Forgotten Ones were leaders of the Rebel Elves that fought against the Evanuris, Solas was part of them too.
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>>180772702
>>180777909
Wait, I got those confused. But still, it was the Old Gods who spoke in the dream of the magisters, whom took the form of dragons and are now sought after by the blighted people.
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>>180777769
Ferelden and Orlais still harbor old hatreds, and Gaspard doesn't generally have much respect for Ferelden, worsening things if he becomes emperor.

Things "awakening" in DA is generally not a good sign. There's always something fishy behind it, and Valta's thing with the Titan will be no exception.

The Qun's ultimate interest is in subjugating the world to its ideology. Some may favor more diplomatic ways, but both the military and the spies seem pretty keen on becoming the Religion of Peace™.

Tevinter will be one of the biggest messes ever most likely.

Assuring the Warden's cure is achieved and their survival will likely involve a large sacrifice of some sort.
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>>180779682
>Assuring the Warden's cure is achieved and their survival will likely involve a large sacrifice of some sort.
It's probably a little early to be building theories, but any ideas on that point?
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>>180770692

I haven't played the games in forever, what is corrupted exactly the Qun? Is that from one of the Inquisition DLCs?
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>>180781073
Nothing specific in mind, just a Hawke vs Warden ally type of deal but more extreme: let the former protagonist die (as well as any possible chance of the Grey Wardens not living on a death sentence) or have some other important character die/lose some essential piece to achieving a peaceful solution that cannot otherwise be achieved.
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>>180779682
The Warden is dumb. You just need to kill all the Old Gods to cure the Calling, instead of spending 14 years looking for god knows what.

>>180781168
Yeah the Trespasser dlc. I am not sure what exactly she is talking about. Did she meant Solas wants to eliminate the Qunari who are attacking Thedas?
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>>180764207
Nice concept art. Are those streams of lyrium?
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>>180769782
>Some think they might be humans (the dwarf says they are as tall as "the humans from the Imperium") who drank dragon blood, because drinking too much dragon blood caused some Reavers to "grow scales".
Oh, shit. There are hits in the Elder Scrolls that Tsaesci did the same and than they become the Vampire Snake People.

Also, Thalmor's big plan is pretty similar with Solas'. The Elves think that Lorkhan (trickster god who tricked elven gods) lured them into the trap of mortality. They want to destroy the world and became immortal spirits what they were ones.

And Thedas also has two moons...

I think it's really strange concurrences.
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>>180782839
>Implying the next blight isn't becuase the warden gathered all his/her warden friends and went down there, hence no communication
Would you go with your warden into the depths /dag/?
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Ugh TES lore, even the developers don't care about it.
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>>180786136
>t. David Gaider
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>>180786024
They will deal with the alive Warden in the most disappointing way, you heard it here first. S/he would not find the Cure to the Calling either.
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>>180782839
If Solas is anything to go by there's something else to the Blights and that just killing the Archdemons won't fix things.
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>>180785913
Both series were heavily inspired LOTR which is where I think the whole 'elves used to be magic star spirits' or whatever came from.
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>>180786868
What would be interesting is if the warden died fighting all the old ones, but was successful, but now with no calling a new chaotic blight caused by all the creatures in the deep roads, due to not having any reason to continue searching deeper.
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>>180766437
Buzzcut Solas looks good.
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>>180787823
Nearly all modern fantasy (especially games) are Tolkien/LOTR inspired.
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>>180787826
That is a nice idea to deal with the Warden, but they have to let us play as the Warden. Killing all the Old Gods off camera would be a bad thing to do.

What I am curious about is that, if all the Old Gods die and the Calling dies with them, would the darkspawn become sentient or would they go mad and start attacking the surface world? If the latter happens, I think Thedas would dispatch every last darkspawn. With no Archdemon to lead them, the darkspawn army would be scattered. I think they would even start attacking each other.

>>180787703
I think Solas just wants to preserve the Old God souls, just like Mythal. He hates how the Wardens kill the Archdemons in desperation. The Ancient Elves used to worship these Old Gods, just like the Tevinter Imperium.
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>>180789475
Solas is probably also worried about the potential fallout like you outlined earlier in your post. He seems to think the Blights are an inevitability, but at the same time is actively opposed to the Wardens' idea of ending them before they begin. The idea of the darkspawn overrunning the world after the Old Gods are all killed has come up before, so I'd assume that's what they're getting at.
>The Ancient Elves used to worship these Old Gods, just like the Tevinter Imperium.
Anon... no. Ancient elves worshipped the Evanuris.
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>>180791667
I was going to ask about that because I don't remember them ever confirming the ancient elves worshiped the old gods. Solas seems to not even know what they really are, but he could've been lying.
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>>180792204
I think it's more likely that the Imperium co-opted the elves' religion and reimagined it into Old God worship, not unlike Greek and Roman mythology. I do think there might be some connection there, though, as Solas specifically says there's no LORE connecting the Old Gods to the elven pantheon. For all we know they actually could be connected.
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>>180789475
I think the same when it comes to the darkspawn, but having such a huge number plus perhaps some mothers (or even magisters) to control them, granted itll be many sects.
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>>180774454
> no cute fanart of Cole and Justice together
it hurts
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>>180791667
Why do you think Mythal wants to preserve the souls of these Old dragon Gods? Why did she actively tried to bring back dragons in Thedas? Maybe the Ancient Elves used to worship these dragons before the Evanuris came into power. We know some of the Ancient Elves could transform into dragons(though they were forbidden to do so),and the form was called "the Divine form".

Anyway, I don't have enough lore material to prove if the Ancient Elves worshipped the Old dragon Gods or not, yet.
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>>180794808
I don't know what the Old Gods are, exactly, but I don't think ancient elves worshipped them. I haven't seen anything to convince me otherwise at any rate.
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>>180795778
Old dragons Gods are obviously enormous and cute Lelianas!
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>>180796801
Anon.. anon.. I NEED this..
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I really want to know if the lore about ancient Vints getting contacted by dragons via their dreams is true and (hopefully) not the Evanuris.
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>>180797386
Me too!

>Tfw no cute anon to give you non-upscaled 8K Leliana images

>>180797731
Why would an Ancient Elf try to help a filthy Tevinter Mage whose people conquered the Ancient Elven empire? I know the Evanuris are cruel but still.
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>>180798997
Someone had the theory in anothr thread that the Evanuris just wanted the fuck out of the Black City, and contacted the ones most likely to actually manage to breach the Fade - the magisters. Magisters manage, go into City, boom. Taint corruption from the City (who got it from the Evanuris, who got it from the Titans) overwhelms Magisters, ??? hurls them back to earth.
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>>180799408
Also, if you're an Evanuris, taint corrupted, locked away, would you either help your enslaved people (who are pretty declined from what you know) to reach a position to help you or would you bet on the new horse in town?
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>>180799408
That is an interesting theory, but why have they not tried to contact anyone else yet, to invade the Black City again? Why they all went silence after the First Blight started?

It is almost like whoever contacted the Magister Lords to invade the Golden City, only wanted to spread the taint in Thedas and that they did.
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>>180798997
I don't think 8k is possible in this game
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>>180799408
Where are the Evanuris? So corrupted theyre basically puddles? Serious question, Ive been wondering since playing origins
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>>180804053
I want to smell her hair, anon..
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>>180804165
They're in the Black City. Not puddles, but they ARE probably corrupt enough to have taint oozing out of their eyeballs at this point.
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>>180804053
No problem! The Nug Queen looks so pretty!

>>180804165
"They sleep, masked in a mirror, hiding, hurting, and to wake them.." - Cole
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I don't know why people call the sparkledeer graceful, they're pretty fucking fat
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>>180807562
They're way too easy to hit by accident in a skirmish. I try to avoid killing them as my Lavellan, but inevitably she happens to scrape one with Chain Lightning and I have to put it down because the rest of the party won't just leave it alone.
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>>180807991
I always kill as many of them as I can because halla leather has decent stats
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>>180807562
They are beautiful, look at their curvy horns. Elven warriors used to ride Hallas, so it is a good thing they are fat!

>>180808069
How could you as an Elf lover!
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>>180808568
Fuck elves.
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>>180808696
Hug all the cute Elves!
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>>180808696
Gladly.
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>>180776536

That thing kept crashing my game.
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>>180808568
I can like elves without worshiping fat white Bambi
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It's no wonder the Dalish are always on the brink of poverty if they have to feed these chunky fucks
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>>180810010
Apparently the fix is to zoom the camera all the way out. That thing is hard, I never managed to beat in any of my playthroughs.
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>>180810764
>can't even eat them later
Shame. Venison's pretty good.
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>>180810961
>pull the aravels
>can use the dung as fuel
>horns can be used for crafting or trading with shems
What other uses do the halla have?
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>>180810764
What, feeding them grass costs nothing. And Hallas are pretty useful for pulling the Aravels.

>>180810520
Nice shot! Don't step on the cute nug!
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>>180811154
She poops from there!
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>>180811110
Do you think the Dalish actually do eat them? Obviously they can't slaughter them like cows or pigs, but if one died naturally, would there still be any stigma in harvesting the carcass? They could probably use most or all of the halla anyway.
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>>180811110
>Milk
>Cuddling
>Leading the Dalish clan to their next location
I don't think the Dalish ever kill them for their horns. The shemlens hunt wild Hallas themselves.

>>180811451
NOO!
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>>180811451
Skinning them and making some dried meat would be the practical choice but I'm inclined to think the Dalish do something autistic like burning them to honor Sylaise or something
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>>180811570
YES!

>>180811578
Yeah, they probably do. Wasteful motherfuckers.
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Andromeda is a galaxy much more limited in scope than the Milky Way, until more games arrive to flesh it out. This will never happen due to Andromeda's poor performance
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>>180811765
The Dalish would never harm or eat a holy animal dedicated to one of their gods.
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>>180811873
Well, they should. Because inevitably those holy animals are going to die, and not using them is a waste of perfectly good meat and pelts.
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>>180811871
Andromeda was a piece of shit. BioWare needs to nut up and fucking pick an ending to ME3 so they can develop ME4. We want more Shepard (since Shep lives if you pick destroy) and friends. No one gives a fuck about Cuck Ryder and His Dogshit Group of Crippled Fucks.
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>>180811982
If Anthem is successful I doubt they will ever touch ME again.
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>>180811871
>>180811964

Fuck off back to /meg/. Fuck off! To /meg/
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What is up with the sudden trash-posting?
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>>180812090
i hope Anthem is hugely successful and cucks Bungivision
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>>180811958
Why not give them a holy burial and let their soul rest? Their are plenty of other sources for meat and pelts.
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>>180812303
Why take more from nature than you need to?
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>>180812360
Cannot argue with that.
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>>180812090

I kinda just can't see it succeeding, who wants these kinda games from BioWare? And if it succeeds it may even be worrying because it totally changes their crowd. I'd rather have more ME even if I didn't really like any of them much except 1.
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>>180811873
>implying cultures with animal sacrifice never ate the animals afterwards
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Is fighter a viable DPS in PoE?
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*turns anon into a cute Golden Halla*
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>>180813057
>>180650612
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>>180813057
Monks are better
>>180813118
Kill yourself
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>>180814135
Yeah but for RPing reasons I don't wanna be a monk
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>>180814189
Fighters can do good dps too I suppose as long as you focus on one type of weapon and have high might
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That game has its own general, you know
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>>180814615
It doesn't, you're thinking of a different game
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>>180815471
Which is?
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>>180814615
You're retarded, you know
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>>180815694
I'm not the one posting in wrong general and then going on
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>>180815741
>not knowing what pillars of eternity is
>acting like retard and then going on
Kill yourself
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>>180815876
Any reason you couldn't correct me properly the first time?
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>>180816152
Why should I spoonfeed a retard who spends all day whining about "offtopic" posts in a dead general
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>>180816276
I see. You're a child.
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>>180816342
And you're a moron who posts in a wrpg thread and doesn't even know about a major obsidian release
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>>180816484
>We occasionally discuss other, smaller RPGs that don't have their own generals. This does not mean we are /wrpg/
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Can we please stop replying to whiny anon and talk about lore instead?

>>180816484
This is a Dragon Age general. Fuck off with your elitism.
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>>180816569
wrpg - western role playing games
Bioware is a western company that makes rpgs
I used the acronym, you're really grasping at straws here
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>>180816718
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>>180816765
Off-topic anons ruined the comfy thread atmosphere.

Anyway, if Sera is Andruil, how do you think she feels about the halla?
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is there anything worse than newfags?
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>>180816950
Bitchfags.
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>>180816950
Whiny anons who act like assholes instead of correcting people who are understandably mistaken?
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>>180816858
>if Sera is Andruil
Why would she be?
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>>180816858
>if Sera is Andruil
I've never much liked this theory as it seems like kind of a stretch. She doesn't seem to be a fan of animals in general, though it's hard to say with halla in particular.
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>>180817019
Because she is. Solas talks about it in ambient conversations.
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>the person who complains about all non-da posts is an elf lore poster
Shocking
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>>180816991
um there have always been women here so don't discriminate okay?
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>>180817171
Not all female posters are bad, anon. Most of us are nice, polite and helpful.

I always try to be nice and respect others, but I won't let anyone act like a rude ass to me either.
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>>180817171
"Bitch" as in "bitch and moan"; to complain.

You knew this, though.
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>>180817290
Is this a bitchpost >>180812121
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>>180817060
Andruil is locked in the Black City with the other Evanuris, so no, she isn't.
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>>180817372
no because it isn't complaining about things she wants to talk about (elf lore)
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>>180817372
No. /meg/ cancer doesn't contribute anything to our general.
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>>180817060
Maybe that was just a comparison?
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>>180817450
Stop acting like an ass.
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>>180816569
So you understand that we discuss smaller RPGs but still complain about PoE?
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>>180817673
>Blackwall
God damn it
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Elf lore should have a separate thread, or better yet, why don't you 1 or 2 losers that unironically care about that shit just add each other somewhere instead of autistically pretending to be anonymous in a sub 10 people general
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>>180817673
Post more smiling Solas!

It always cracks me up.

I wish Inquisition had better animations, his facial expressions are already very good but I'd also love to see some crying or laughing Solas.
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>>180817589
i'll act how i want to act. every other discussion gets drowned out by the same three people samefagging about the same lore every day
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>>180817778
Curious. What the hell are you even doing in this general and what do you even want from it?
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>>180817778
But we're not pretending to be anonymous, anon.

Lorefriends are easily recognizable because we make posts that are actually intelligent and worth reading. Haven't you considered that we enjoy talking to each other and lore posts aren't for you?
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>>180778114
The Forgotten Ones = Forbidden Ones, this has been confirmed in DA2. They were elves who abandoned Elvhenan in its greatest time of need to turn into spirits and flee in the Fade, so the Evanuris exiled them and never allowed them to take physical form again.

And I still think the Evanuris are somewhat connected to the Old Gods, meaning they pretended to be gods again so the magisters would listen to them and tear open the Veil.

Maybe the Evanuris seeked a way to escape or found in the Blight a way to get closer to freedom somehow, so they wanted it unleashed back on Thedas.
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Listen, motherfuckers, we're going to talk about what /I/ want to talk about or we're not going to talk at all!

t. whiny anon
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>>180817931
He's probably here to spam waifu pictures, Witcher trash and Mass Effect shit, and whine about other people enjoying themselves.
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>>180782839
>Did she meant Solas wants to eliminate the Qunari who are attacking Thedas?

Yeah, she originally meant that, but she had to change the wording a bit because the people who loved Qunari and the Qun sent her death threats. Solas clearly said he wants Thedas free of the Qun taught by the triumvirate, though, because it's pretty much slavery.

The "good Qun" is the one some Tal-Vashoth and the people in Rivain follow: it's not extremist, it actually makes people happy and it doens't force anyone to drink potions that screw up with your brain if you refuse to follow the teachings.
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>>180817996
Kinda hypocritical of you considering your attitude to games that aren't dragon age
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>>180818005
Mass Effect is fine in this thread, anon..
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>>180818253
No it isn't, Leliana anon.

They have their own general and should stay there.
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>>180818132
>she had to change the wording a bit because the people who loved Qunari and the Qun sent her death threats
I know this reaction is pretty typical of Tumblr whenever someone says a thing that upsets them, but there are people who like the Qun? Unironically?

>>180818253
Mass Effect has its own general, though. And it's dying, so why post in here when they can go to /meg/ and keep it alive?
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>>180818253
Not really. Mass Effect general is separate for a reason.
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Let's post a lot of non DA stuff to make the tree huggers fuck off.
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>>180794808
>Why do you think Mythal wants to preserve the souls of these Old dragon Gods

Because they are part of her. "Part of what once was snatched from the darkness". They are most likely part of her soul/her being that she used to keep the Blight at bay underground when the Evanuris started mining it and using it like dumbasses. That's why she wants Kieran at all costs - "I will have my due".

It's the same reason why she is so interested in Sandal, too, so much she visits him at night and scares him with her laughter.

>The idea of the darkspawn overrunning the world after the Old Gods are all killed has come up before, so I'd assume that's what they're getting at.

Yeah, Solas says that killing the Old Gods might make things even worse. Without Archdemons and their calling, darkspawn would go mad (see the Mother in Awakening: she lost her mind the moment she was severed from the Archdemon). So they would probably flow out into the surface, desperately looking for that music again, and this time they would do this without any kind of predictable order, without any plan, since it's confirmed the Archdemons tell them what to do and where to go once a Blight has started.
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>less and less posters
>faster and faster threads
Is this typical of a dying general?
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>>180818420
Loresamefagging. It's shitposting but at least kind of high quality shitposting because it requires a lot of typing.
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>>180818393
How about you go away and leave us alone?

>>180818420
How dare people actually discuss things!!
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>>180818420
As opposed to what, guttering and constantly being archived midway through the thread? Because that was happening regularly until Knight Errant started coming out, but I think now we've just established a fairly comfortable flow with the mainstay anons we have.
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>>180817060
He just says she is "apart from herself" because she isn't really an elf to his eyes. He desperately tries to get her interested into elven stuff to see if she can feel something for what it's supposed to be her people, but she doesn't give a fuck and in the end he's just "she is too far gone for me to help her".
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>>180818464
Are you so used to trash posts that high quality content seems like shitposting to you, anon?
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>>180817931
Surely not DA elf lore because that shit is just lame and uninspired. I guess it works for babbies first fantasy setting.
>>180818494
>The comic brought posters to the general
You don't seriously believe this, nobody cares about it and the art is terrible.
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>>180818589
Okay, so you have no real business in this general. I guess that's cleared now.
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>>180818589
>Waah!
>How dare people discuss things I don't like!!
For all your complaints about lore 'samefagging', you sure post the same bitchy shit a lot, whiny anon.
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>>180818494
>/dag/ one year ago
>had more than 10 posters
>got archived occasionally but people actually discussed things other than LORE 24/7
>/dag/ now/
>10 posters max
>never slows down
>only thing "discussed" is spamming the same shit all day every day by a minority of the general while the rest of us sit by and watch
i wonder which is better!
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>>180818842
For fucks sake. Why is it so goddamn hard to just leave the general alone when you don't even like the content others bring and are incapable of contributing anything yourself? What is your major malfunction?
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>>180818842
>got archived occasionally but people actually discussed things other than LORE 24/7
So you preferred it when it was more shitposting than an actual general? I know we discuss a lot of the same things, I'm not faulting you for bringing that up, but there just isn't anything new to talk about right now. Hopefully the conversation will get to advance some time soon.
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>>180801386
>It is almost like whoever contacted the Magister Lords to invade the Golden City, only wanted to spread the taint in Thedas and that they did.

For all we know, that might have been the Evanuris' plan since from the start. I doubt a random nobody - even powerful magisters - would be able to free the Evanuris like that, Solas made it very clear that even in the case of a ruptured Veil they would stay locked away.

So the Evanuris probably decided to influence Thedas and find their freedom in another way: if they are Tainted, they might be connected to everything that is, even in the waking world, and the Blights pretty much assured them tons of deaths every time, which weakened the *entirety* of the Veil and improved their chances to escape. I feel like theirs is a work of patience, chipping their bounds little by little, waiting for the right moment or for Solas to finally fuck up one last time.

Even Mythal said that "things happened that were never supposed to happen" and that the Taint (which she knows "more than you could possibly imagine") is terribly wrong and dangerous. And Morrigan says that she is deeply connected to the Blight and even more dangerous than it.
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>>180818842
I wouldn't mind them if they stopped complaining about everything that's not lore
>>180818969
Why is it so hard to understand that nobody gives a shit about your walls of text and there are 5 non-DA games, 4 obsidian games and other stuff that people could come here to discuss
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>>180818969
no one can post anything but dragon age without being told to fuck off or being immediately drowned out by a 5 paragraph essay on how long solases dog cock is

>>180819042
>anything that isn't lore is shitposting
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>>180805208
>"They sleep, masked in a mirror, hiding, hurting, and to wake them.." - Cole

you know, I always thought that was referring to the other ancient elves that are still uthenera, waiting for Solas to proceed with his plan. the Evanuris aren't really "hiding" and Solas would have no intention of "waking them".

maybe Cole is referring to Solas' army waiting behind a mirror, tired of sleeping and waiting? "To wake them" would mean destroying the world, because he would have to leave Lavellan and proceed with his plans by waking and rallying the other ancient elves that are waiting for him.
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>>180819118
>anything that isn't lore is shitposting
I didn't say that. Non-lore posts aren't a bad thing at all. Just spamming Leliana and awful Tumblr art 24-7, though? I'd call that shitposting.
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Does Solas actually have a wolf form?

I don't think he's a shapeshifter like Mythal, but anything is possible.
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>>180819217
except we did have discussions. we even had lorefags, they just didn't drown out the entire rest of the thread. maybe i'm expecting too much to think that the generals quality could go back a year but it genuinely makes me sad to see this place in such a state
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>>180819323
Probably. I'd go into detail but I don't want that other anon to get any angrier than he already is, so I'll just direct you to >>180750527 where we started discussing it last thread.
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>implying that you don't want a qt lore-posting gf
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>>180819397
Oh for the love of god. Just leave already.
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>>180819465
you fucking leave
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>>180819493
I'm not the one having problem with the content.
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>>180819397
I don't know what to tell you, anon. Like I said, I'm just hoping we get something new to talk about soon, lore or otherwise.

>>180819465
No, we should let him have his say. It doesn't mean you have to agree with him, just that he has just as much right to post here as anyone else.
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/dag/ is so much more whiney and drama filled than /meg/.
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>>180819561
>No, we should let him have his say.
He's already said all he has to say for like the millionth fucking time. Literally everything he has the capacity for.
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>>180819664
so exactly like lorefags?
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Tbh I'm just here to witness how far a general can truly fall when some people refuse to let it die
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>>180819664
>>180819827
Both of you need to calm down and stop acting like children. I agree that we could stand to talk about things other than lore, and I'm saying that as someone who likes discussing it, but at the same time our options are kind of limited right now. Can we PLEASE just try and be fucking civil with each other?
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>>180819963
Why do you care so much?
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>>180820014
kys whale
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>>180820014
fine
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I'm fine with /dag/ dying until the next game.
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>>180820197
But...all my /dag/ friends
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>>180820448
Doesn't look like anyone is friends with someone here desu.
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>>180820662
Solaswives and Leliana anon are friends.
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>>180819628
I wonder why that is
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>>180821709
Elflore, ew olfdicks?
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>Bitchfags whine and moan about lore
>The thread immediately dies without lorefags
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Can you repec at all in origins main game?
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>>180823318
Nope. You need a mod for that.
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What do you think would happen if Solas drank from the Well of Sorrows?
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>>180824223

He'd make a burp like a bald babby.
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>>180824223
His plans would be over
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>>180824295
Seriously?

Why do have have to act like that?
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>>180824295
kek
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>>180824364
What makes you say that, anon?
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I love lorefags and waifufags, but I hate fags that can't tolerate other fags.
So stop being a bunch of crybabies.
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>>180825458
This! Lore is a crucial part of Dragon Age, people who don't want to talk about it don't actually care about this franchise and should post somewhere else.
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>>180824761
If flemeth is any indication of what kind of person Mythal was then she probably has some ulterior motive.
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>>180824383

Jeez sorry for stating my theory. Feel free to disprove it.
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>>180825960
You're a funny one. My first and only (You).
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>>180826645
Thanks, I guess?
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>>180826140
Hmm, I guess you have a point. She's probably try to control Solas like she does Morrigan.

Thing is, Solas is a much more competent mage than the swamp bitch. I wonder if he'd be able to withstand Flemythal's influence.

In that case, he'd have his innate magical prowess, the knowledge accumulated in the Well of Sorrows, /AND/ Mythal's divinity. He'd probably be able to rip the veil asunder if he was as ruthless as the Fen'Harel myths imply; that's why I love his character, he could become more powerful than the Maker but holds back because he's a Good Person.
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I like both breast and butt
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>>180827182
I'm pretty sure he is already being controlled by Mythal, though. Who knows, maybe he drank from the Well or was bound to her in the distant past, especially if he was her bodyguard/slave/pet like Trespasser implies.

Or even if it isn't a direct control, her influence over him is enough and she knows exactly how to treat him and what to say to convince him to follow their plan. He admits she was dangerous like the other Evanuris, but also that "she was the best of them" and that the Evanuris deserved their punishment for killing her, so he is completely biased towards her, just like a loyal dog.
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I like breast, butt, legs, feet, pits and vagina
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>>180827823
>vagina
What are you a faggot or something?
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>>180827772
this, she is already controlling him.

>the Well of Sorrows puts whoever drinks from it under a geas; they think they are acting out of their own volition, but they are actually guided by Mythal and the will of her priests
>Cole: "Many cold voices, speaking over you in your head. You don't want them."
>"You have given up a part of yourself. Everything you do, *whether you know it or not*, will be for [Mythal]

and yet Cole also says

>"Solas doesn't want to hurt people, he isn't that kind of wolf. The Qunari don't see."

if Solas is really acting alone, then that makes no sense. it's been confirmed multiple times how Cole can always recognize bad people: if Solas was really trying to hurt Thedas because he wants to, Cole wouldn't be so eager to save him and help him, he wouldn't even Greatly Approve when Lavellan says she wants to save him. instead he says that Solas is a good person, that he doesn't really want to hurt anyone, so Cole must have noticed something.
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>>180828420
>mfw Solas adamantly refuses to drink from the Well not because he is scared and disgusted by its implications, but because he is already bound to it and the others would discover it if he tried to drink from it
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I like bepis
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Post cute Solavellan headcanons.
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>>180831198
Solas has a sketchbook full of drawings of Lavellan.

He's also going decorate his base with paintings of wolves and halla in DA4 because they remind him of her.
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Post ways you would attempt to kill Solas
I would simply lock him in an oven and turn it the fuck up. Even if burning alive 24/7 wouldn't destroy him, he would eventually go insane from the pain and forget who he was.
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>>180832673
Edgy.

What would your therapist say about this? It can't be healthy posting in a general you hate.
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>>180832961
Effective is the word I would use.
I don't hate this general, why would I?
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>>180832673
Make him wrestle with a roo
Hide rotten pears in his backpack and wait until he gets attacked by wasps
Re-enact Poe's "The Pit and the Pendulum"
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>>180811873
Look at the egyptians, they worshipped animal gods but had to kill them for protection (crocodiles) or food (cows) as well.
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>>180833147
>posting gross shit in order to annoy Solaswives
You're either a troll or a very sick individual.
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>>180833530
>troll
Are time machines real after all? What year are you from?
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>>180833654
Cool evasion.
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>>180782839
> The Warden is dumb. You just need to kill all the Old Gods to cure the Calling, instead of spending 14 years looking for god knows what.

When the Taint corruption becomes to strong, a Warden gradually looses themselves and degenerates like other ghouls. I imagine ending the Calling is not only silencing the Dragons, but also finding a cure for the Blight itself which isn't a normal disease. To bad Warden can kill Archie and never meets Fiona...
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>>180828605
No wonder he doesn't want Lavellan bound or share that connection with Morri.
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>>180832673
Just boss battle his disgusting, hulking wolf form. Bonus points if he's only a head afterwards like Ludwig from Bloodborne.

>>180833530
I like him, but I also don't mind bad endings, because the relationship to this fictional character isn't what is keeping me alive.
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>>180834156
>I like him
>Posts about killing him
Yep, a troll.
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>>180834663
Having different options on how to resolve a situation is part of the fun of an RPG, anon.
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>>180835325
If you want to kill someone, you don't really love them, anon.
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>>180835441
Anon, he isn't even alive. He's fictional. Polygons. Code. Spoken Lines. He can live in one world state, die in another. Ever transmutable.
I know you do this to farm replies but c'mon.
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>>180835552
It's not about worldstates, I'm simply puzzled by the fact that you clearly hate him while pretending that you love him.

For what purpose?
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>>180835552
You're arguing with a very obsessive person who can't stand anything negative being said about their favourite character, as seen above. Don't bother.
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>>180836029
>Stop liking what I dislike!
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>>180835945
>>180836029
>>180836593
This is getting out of hand y'all. Please, let us post for one hour not about Solas.
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>>180836698
I won't give in to whiny trolls, anon.
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>>180837027
You already do by engaging.
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>>180836593
Feisty.

What would your therapist say about this? It can't be healthy replying to posts that trigger you.
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Is there an established DAI moste? I think we settled for DAO on Zev and in DA2 on Merrill.
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>>180837741
Think again then
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>Poor solaswife actually thinking someone wants to discuss elf lore with her when it's in fact just the former leliana spammer taking on a new role to start shit
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>>180837884
Fen and Bela have commitment issues like crazy, Anders is a whole other bag of bad.
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>>180837994
Morrigan is DA:O moste and your sister is DA2 moste because all romances are bad and don't love you.
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>>180838171
>>180837741
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>>180837305
I'm just trying to understand your mental illness. Psychopaths are fascinating.

>>180837994
There are at least three of us here, anon.
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>>180838171
>>180838546
Morrigan isn't moste because she fucks off at the end and is an edgelord for the duration of the game. The DA2 romances love you, but they're also pretty fucked up people in part.

So who's moste for DAI? Blackwall, S***s and Cass are out because they leave at the end I suppose.
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>>180838750 (You)
>posting ad hominem in order to bait for angry reactions
>defending by shifting blame towards other Solas anons
You're either the husbandowoman or a very skilled falseflagger.
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Zevran is trash
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>>180839085
You are an idiot
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>>180839252
UR TRASH
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>>180839242
This post doesn't even make sense, anon.
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Dorian is unironically the best romance
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>>180841713
Dorian's pretty good. Idk about best, there is no best in my eyes.
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>180841238
What do you require explanations for, exactly? You've practiced the very same posting style on /meg/ with Jaal instead of Solas. It's really obvious, so maybe you should get a trip.
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>>180842063
What the hell are you talking about?

Maybe people talk about Jaal because he's the only good Andromeda husbando, yet you seem to think that there is a big samefag false-flagging operation going on. However, I don't post on /meg/, which is why your rants are amusing.
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> managed the hour without arguing about Solas
Good job everyone
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Cullen is shit.
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>>180844240
My mage OC Chad Tempesthands bullies him for being a shit Templar.
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>>180844504
Tell me more about Chad Tempesthands. He sounds fascinating!
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>>180844656
He likes killing fat turds and taking over their taverns then making out with the wench
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>>180844504
Templars with frat boy names fits so well... they truly are joacks...
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>>180845002
But that anon said Chad is a mage.
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>>180845219
Christ, I can't read anymore.
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>>180837994
I like Leliana!
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>come back to /dag/ six hours later
>people still arguing
Come on now.
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>>180845910
What do you want to talk about? The fact that Ferelden most likely doesn't have a strong seafaring culture because of sea monsters? Pulled that one straight from my ass because of the monster in Redcliffe lake
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>>180846068
That's actually a great idea. What about the Amaranthine Ocean?
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>>180845910
More like:
>Come back to /dag/ after 10 hrs
>150+ posts about lore whining
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>>180846167
I just want people to get along, anon. I really didn't think that was such a big ask.
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>>180846119
It's impossible to cross and everyone who tried to reach the fabled Amaranthine, allegedly full of treasures, died. Only one survivor of these expeditions was ever found, but he had seen something so bad that had made him go mad and he killed himself before saying what it was.
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>>180843028
What's amusing is the strong emotional response coming out immediately after someone shits on Solas or Jaal. There's only a small number of female anons here, and it's easy to spot the same sweet
>why are you so mean to my precious hubby?!
>there's at least 3 of us Solas fans!
>if you hurt Solas you're a psychopath
>he is best boy!!
Forgive me if I thought you're one of the girls who until recently spammed on /meg/ but the style is exactly the same.
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>>180846338
Oh shit. Great Old Ones confirmed?
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Cover for the final number of Knight Errant, out this September. Looks like Prince Sebastian is gonna score with main character Vaea.

>As the truth about Vaea's proclivities is revealed, she steels herself for Ser Aaron's judgment. Before they're able to discuss much, Marquette arrives with his men and a vicious fight breaks out--the result of which will determine both Vaea's future and that of freedom in Thedas.
>and that of freedom in Thedas

God, I hope we will see some hints for DA4 and what awaits us.
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>>180846119
Not quite explored due to the Brecillian Forest that'd be the direct lead-in to it. The Waking Sea and Thedas' coastline are more important for trade, especially after the Orlesian occupation and Blight.

>>180846338
Whut. Where did you get that from? I only know of Awakening's Amaranthine.

>>180847038
Nice to see Seb appearing again.
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Jaal and Solas are the best!
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>>180847025
Most likely just a reference like the Necronomicon rune you can find in a book in Skyhold.
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>>180847017
Isn't the spammer a dude? Who's faking it?
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>>180847213
>Whut. Where did you get that from? I only know of Awakening's Amaranthine.

World of Thedas 2. Told you that book is full of interesting lore.
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>>180847038
Ohhh nice. I hope DA4 has more cameos.
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>>180847017
Not that anon, I'm not about that anymore. I realized what an asshole I was being and that's why I stopped posting on /meg/.
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>>180847609
what were your posts?
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>>180847821
I love how the design notes for Architect were all "cold calculating with no empathy" but from what I've seen people like to interpret him as... sweet but very misguided.
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>>180847889
I was one of the mainstay Jaalfags. It was partially over-exaggerated as a joke, but like I said, I just ended up being an annoying bitch and not realizing it. I'd rather just learn from it and leave it behind me.
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>>180848081
He is like that in the book, The Calling, too. He is naive, actually wants peace even if his methods are crazy, and he just want to live in peace.

I wonder how much he would change if he started to remember he was one of the ancient magisters of Tevinter who tore open the Veil to meet gods that never existed.
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>>180847332
Aw. That's probably for the best, though. There are already about ten different ancient evils waking up to threaten the world, we don't really need another one.

>>180847363
>World of Thedas 2
I really need to dig into that one of these days.
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>>180848205
I was too. But /meg/ is so male-oriented that I don't care that's it annoying. It's so minor to the waifu posting
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>>180848592
True. I guess I'd just rather be my best self than be an annoyance and bring people down.
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>>180849426
They bring themselves down with the Liara vs Tali vs Vetra fights CONSTANTLY. But I'm pretty mad at ME to post much anymore
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>>180848081
To be fair, you see that with a lot of antagonists, especially in a fandom like this one. He does come off as surprisingly well-intentioned for someone who's supposed to be cold and lacking empathy, though.
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>>180848205
Hey, it was still more bearable than all the *action* spam done by the Leliautist in this thread. I don't think the other anons actually hate Solas or Jaal, it's just the obnoxious posting that had a negative impact on their impression.
I won't reference you again.
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>>180848081
He kinda lacks emotions, I guess it has something to do with him being a half darkspawn.

>>180849814
Stop. I am not the only one who *slaps* anons.
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>>180849814
Thanks anon. Don't get me wrong, I assumed a lot of them were just doing it for a laugh and some of it was actually pretty funny, but you're right, the nature of the posting was a problem. That's why I've been avoiding doing that again at all costs.
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>>180846068
Why is everyone going on about Ferelden being a boring fantasy England when they don't into ships then? That's like one of the key defining parts of British culture

>>180849728
Funny, when I left MEG there weren't many other Liarafags other than the femshep spammer.
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>>180850298
Probably because they don't realize that there were places other than England in the Middle Ages. I think another anon pointed out that Inquisition's Fereldan architecture is more Ukrainian in appearance than anything. It's more like a big amalgamation of different parts of medieval Europe than England specifically.
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>>180850672
That's nice. I like when they reference your character's romances in expansions and later games, it's such a sweet thing.
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>>180850552
I wish there was a game that did medieval Europe, or some fictionalized version of it, well. Like, in Origins, it felt like the teyrns were rich just because, and the peasants weren't really ruled over by the aristocracy.
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>>180851339
Crusader Kings II gets kind of close, I think.
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>>180851431
I wish I could get into it, it just feels too Sims-like to me. The only grand strategy game I really like is Victoria 2.

I guess the closest thing to what I'm looking for is Mount and Blade.
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>>180851739
Oh, I've heard good things about Mount & Blade! That's a low-magic setting, right? Or is it no magic at all?
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>>180851904
None. It's really good but there isn't any story.
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>>180850925
If only the stupid Grand Cleric had not called her..my Awakening experience would have been 100x better. I hate the Chantry now!
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>>180851657
>>180852223
You okay?
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>>180852032
Interesting. Kind of a shame about the lack of story, but at the same time the sheer openness seems like it could be a lot of fun.

>>180852223
Is there something you'd like to discuss, anon?
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there is nothing wrong with morrigan and kieran having sex if you ask me
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>>180852223
I quite agree m'gentlesir
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>>180853501
>>180853525
Can you stop posting here, please?
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>>180853525
I never realized before how many belts Cassandra has. Is she a JRPG character?
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>>180853501
im totally with you there, it's their thing
>>180853660
it's DA related so i really don't know what your problem is, fuck off
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>>180853501
Truer words have never been spoken.

>>180853660
Kill yourself.
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>>180853501
>>180853767
>>180853868
t. samefag
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>>180853740
She's an anime
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people false flagging again....

i guess ill join this time, let me think ehat ill say....

I LOVE SERA!
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>>180854658
Did you just get banned for shitposting and resetted your ip? The poster count climbed to 35.
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How do you think Solas would react to meeting Archie?
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>>180854625
An anime in desperate need of a nicer wardrobe. That horrible stitching really stands out on lighter fabric.

>>180854658
What do you love about her?
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>>180854821
nope, just trying to looks as ridiculous as the whiny anons
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>>180854876
i love how progressive she is, shes not your perfect white elven woman, shes a brown real poc who smashes the opressive cis white norms
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>>180855214
btw, that what false flagging is, if you dont know what sarcasm is
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>>180855214
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>>180855860
nice fn@f gif bro
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I keep getting slapped! Help me anon!
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>>180854876
It's what her "underwear" looks like if you don't give her any armor, this is Sera's
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>>180856225
shirt made from a potato sack LUL
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>>180856345
haHAA
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>>180856223
use force field on yourself when she grabs you, or a cc that works on her
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>>180856225
>>180856345
>>180856395
Why are you still here?

Can't you see that you're lowering the quality of the general?
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>>180856047
Fucking gross
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>>180856468
Thanks. I will try. Her lewd tentacles keep slapping my companions. And her children enjoy cuddling you for like 10 seconds and you are unable to move.
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I find it fascinating that Solas produces breast milk
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>>180856875
this fight is like a WoW fight, use a cooldown on the tank when she grabs and for add phase group up and AoE, rinse and repeat
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>>180853767
>>180853868
it's just natural, just because society has put that taboo in our heads it doesn't mean this has to apply to the world of DA
>>180853962
>how dare you talk about something else, samefag waahwaaah
sad
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>I left /meg/ because I acted like an obnoxious piece of shit and it made me feel bad
>which is why I'm doing the same thing on /dag/ now
hmm
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>>180857236
do you think morrigan still breastfeeds kieran?
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>>180857572
considering her current size, i dot think so
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>>180857572
No but his new daddy Solas does
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kieran feeds morri
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I want to slap Sera's saggy breasts while she chokes me with her thick thighs
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>>180857459
I know you won't believe me, but I'm not doing this, I swear.
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YES! Had to lower the game difficulty to Easy.
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>>180858741
Good one. Don't feel bad about it, the Mother is a really hard boss.
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>>180858741
That thing gave me nightmares back in the day.
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Not gonna lie, former Leliana anon here. This is fucking hilarious watching Leliana crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let her get the divide codes.
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>>180859204
Um, Leliana anon is the only Leliana friend here. Stop false-flagging.
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>>180859382
That is simply not true. I like Lel too!
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>>180859593
I'm pretty sure you don't, anon.

It's sad that you need to lie to us.
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Why did they have to make the dragons so pretty in Inquisition, /dag/? I almost feel bad killing them.
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>>180848470
It doesn't help his "evil" image that he writes Utha these kind of letters as well.

>>180850081
That's explicitly stated in-game, I think? Though I'd rather say that they're pretty dulled and he can't react to humans like someone with not half their brain merged with their hat and Blight would.
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>>180859642
Do not imply I'm false flagging, anon! That would be very rude.
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>>180859763
>copying Leliana anon's style
Sure.

What exactly to you gain by doing this?
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>>180859851
NO. I am my own person...
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>>180859673
I'm gonna go ahead and say it: They did dragons better and more interesting than Skyrim. They actually succeeded in that regard.
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>>180857861
o ye

thats the stuff
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>>180859992
Yes, one who is a troll and a false-flagger. Shoo.
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>>180860119
Can you stop this rudeness?
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>>180858741
> I'll never carefully fondle an awakened Broodmother
jimsa
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That great and sad feeling when you are going through the Awakening epilogue slides.

>>180859204
What did anon mean by this?
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>>180859729
>Though I'd rather say that they're pretty dulled and he can't react to humans like someone with not half their brain merged with their hat and Blight would.

This. Also, he doesn't remember his former human life and he has no idea how humans behave, how they think and act like etc. He is curious about them, but doesn't really know how to react around them, so he's often aloof, a bit weird and too solemn.

I really wonder how he was like when he was human. Corypheus was described as "serious, but good and just, never cruel" by one of his elven slaves. Maybe the Architect was the total opposite and his calm, kind demeanor is actually caused by his total amnesia of past events.
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>>180860402
He was a High Priest of Urthemiel, right? I could see him being very vain and narcissistic.
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what's your favorite kieran moment?
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I remember some anon telling me that the identity of the Architect is a Grey Warden secret. Apparently that is not true.
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Also, while we're on the topic of old Tevinter, it's stated that they all "kept their identities secrest" even though I wonder how that worked given that they're the High Priests of their respective gods. The Wiki indicates that Cory wouldn't find anything on them because he couldn't research their names but that looks pretty unlikely.

>>180860402
Given the brain damage by Blight, there's no way of telling what he was like. Damn shame Cory was sent to the Fade, as he's the one of the seven most likely to still have somewhat intact memories. The others must've been making continously new memories, overwriting the old ones, whereas Cory was enthralled and then snoozing for the millenia.

>>180860521
Sure it's the Dissonant Chant but he wasn't on board with Cory's (Seth's) plan to enter the Fade until his god annoyed him. Beauty's kind of hard to pin down though, but I'm glad they went with "structural beauty" instead of "Aphrodite"-like.
They still have the old buildings kept magically in place in Tevinter? I wonder if the sight of them would job Archie's memory.
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>>180854868
I think Solas would sadly kill the Architect if they ever met. He was one of the Magisters that invaded the Golden City and brought the Blight upon Thedas. He is indirectly responsible for the deaths of many Old Gods.
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>>180860103
I made that webbum
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>>180861329
And directly, he blighted Urthemiel after all.
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>>180861397
True, but it was unintentional.
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>>180861336
Thank you for making that webbum, anon.
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>>180861554
"I didn't mean to poison him with poison" isn't a good defense.
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>>180861991
I just love ass, anon
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>>180859729
What was the promise he kept to Utha? It was never stated in-game or maybe I didn't pay attention.
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They better not fucking decide not to include arcane warrior or knight enchanter specs to make way for blood mage spec in DA4.
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>>180861223
>The Wiki indicates that Cory wouldn't find anything on them because he couldn't research their names but that looks pretty unlikely.

>Did the others never return from the Black City? There is no record even of our names! We are vilified by legend. They spit on our deeds and claim we brought darkness into the world. We discovered the darkness. We claimed it as our own, let it permeate our being. If the others have not returned, they are lost. I am alone in my glory.

I think it's because the Chantry all but erased their names from The Chant of Light and any other text. Dorian was able to find Corypheus' name after a long research, using a rare copy of the Liberalum. Corypheus probably didn't even know such a book existed, he comes from a completely different time.
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>>180862092
It's further explored in The Calling, she's a Silent Sister iirc and he promised that with his experiments he'd find a way for darkspawn and the people of Thedas to exist in peace.
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Why my anon is so lewd?!
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>>180862131
Playing an arcane warrior/ Knight Enchanter only makes sense with an elf.
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>>180862169
And yet, Corypheus' lineage apparently persisted into modern Tevinter. They aren't doing great and had to denounce him publicly so as to not suffer more damage to their reputation.
You think he didn't look up "Amladaris"?
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>>180861397
doesn't matter, he was purified into the form of our beloved kieran
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>>180862423
He never said he couldn't find traces of his lineage, only that his true name is not stated anywhere. That's what hurts him - they vilified him so much that they didn't even think about mentioning who he really was.

So he probably looked up "Amladaris" and thought "Good, here we are", then realized the rest of the world didn't even know he had been part of that family.
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>>180862131
>>180862231
>Blood Mage
>Arcane Warrior
>not Spirit Healer but some new kind of healing/buffing specialization

>Fog Warrior spec that replaces Assassin
>Tempest
>???

>Champion
>Reaver
>???

My guesses for the specs for DA4.
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>>180862774
Right, I guess there wouldn't really be a Templar specialization if it takes place in Tevinter. Maybe they keep Artificer for rogues?
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>>180863314
I was thinking some mix of Legionnaire Scout and Artificer because of Kal Sharok but I figured that'd be unrealistic. Artificer would fit though.
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>>180862757
Except that WoT explicitely states his first name, family name, and the (supposed) standing of his house at the time before the Ritual, which was apparently "mediocre", and WoT being a culmination of in-game texts.
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>>180863662
Anon, do you want to fuck kieran?
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>>180862757
The image of Cory being bend over the 'Vint version of a telephone book and saying that out lout cracks me up, thanks for that.
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>>180863529
The WoT books are supposed to be written by Father Genitivi briefly after Inquisition, so the word probably spread at that point thanks to Dorian's research.
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>>180863771
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>>180862757
>>180863786
>tfw your great x9 grandfather who disgraced your family and introduced the fucking blight into the world shows up on your doorstep, and he's now ten feet tall and covered in glowing red rocks
>coming this fall to fox
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>>180863989
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>>180863794
I remember distinctly the line "shortly after Corypheus publicly appeared [...] House Amladaris officially denounced him"...

>>180863989
I'd fucking watch it, never-ending "in my time" anecdotes with the modern family playing the "and who's fault is it that times changed?" card to shut him up
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>>180863989
I actually laughed out loud at this. What do you think it'd be called? inb4 Cory in the House
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>36 posters
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>>180864326
Do you think Morri likes it?
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>>180864410
Those were good times.

Speaking of House Amladaris I wouldn't be surprised if they played an important role in future DA games.
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>>180863989
>>180863786
If they refuse him and say they don't want to have anything to do with him, he can always go back to Samson and Calpernia. He has adopted them, especially Calpernia.

>Samson is the son with rage issues that fucks up a lot, but Cory always forgives him and answers his stupid questions every time
>Calpernia is the clever, brilliant daughter who always listens to him, but rebels at the end after learning how many secrets her dad kept from her
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>>180864338
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>>180864410
Magical Moments of the Amladaris if nice
Rise and Fall if polit drama
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>>180862003
His plan was so incredibly dumb.
>Let us try to give an untainted Old God some corrupted Grey Warden blood, what could go wrong?

>>180863529
Corypheus didn't magically grow lyrium shards all across his body and face when he fell from the Black City. The seven Magister Lords of Ancient Tevinter got deformed after years of Lyrium consumption; his human form would have looked quite creepy too.
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>>180864595
Sometimes family can be a millenium old lich, a middle-aged ex-knight drug addict and a brilliant former slave

>>180864708
> his human form would have looked quite creepy too
That was back in DAO codex' when they still said that Brother Genitivi brought his own bias in reporting.
Also, a magical society would have means to cover that shit up, you can't be a priest figure and look like a monster.
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>>180864708
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>>180864708
You don't know what he put into that Grey Warden blood.
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Should I play the Golems of Amgarrak after Awakening? Is there anything lore related in it?
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>>180864708
>Let us try to give an untainted Old God some corrupted Grey Warden blood, what could go wrong?
I was gonna say if it worked for other Darkspawn it's not entirely unreasonable to think it could work for an Archdemon, but then I remembered they don't become Archdemons until they're corrupted and woken up.

So I guess the Architect should have tried to poke it awake with a really long stick or something.
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>>180865272
I really want to see the cavern of a sleeping Old God(Lusacan/Razikale are left). I read a theory earlier that the Old Gods are actually trapped inside the Titans.
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>>180865259
It has some interesting implications about making golems and what not but literally nothing that happened in it has been referenced or brought up in any other game.
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>>180865469
It's either in WOT 2 or Inquisition but there's a codex entry about some Wardens who get extremely close to where an Archdemon is sleeping, I remember something about them being able to "see" its song or something like that. There might be another Archdemon in the Western Approach and I think Razikale is somewhere in Ferelden.
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>>180865002
*hugs*
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>>180865718
It was dwarves. They entered the empty prison of an Old God by mistake, found corpses of darkspawn kneeling in prayer, and had to leave, because their guts told them it was extremely dangerous to be there and there was something pressing against their minds.
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>>180866017
I think there are actually two different codexes because I definitely remember one in the Western Approach written by Wardens who were forced to turn back. The dwarf one I remember and is definitely from WOT 2.
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>>180866017
I wonder what this "Calling" actually is. It is described by the Wardens as a "song", Lyrium emits a song in its pure form and Titans too.
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What's your favorite Solas moment, anons?
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>>180866503
The moment when Lavellan cucks him with Sera!
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>>180866503
Trespasser ending.
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>>180866660
Oh for the love of god. Just leave already.
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>>180865513
Thanks, but I think I am going to play it anyway. I heard the final boss in the dlc appears in Dragon Age 2.
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>>180866239
It seems like magic also has a "song" of sorts to it, or at least it used to. Then there's the Chant of Light and the Chantry's goal of spreading it until it's sung all over the world. I wonder how it all fits together?

>>180866503
I like a lot of them, but my absolute favorite thing to do is take him out with Bull and let them argue about the Qun.

>>180866792
Don't be rude, anon.
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>>180867004
Serafags are obnoxious children who should make a thread in /aco/ instead of shitting our general up, rudeness is the only thing they deserve.
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>you can't talk about this dragon age character because I don't like him/her/it
>calls others children

this really gets the neurons firing
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>>180867203
Look, I don't like Sera either, but that doesn't mean you can go around being rude to people just because they have different tastes than you.
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>>180867321
You weren't even discussing her, though, only making shitposts that paint Solas in a negative light.
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Stop fighting ANONS!
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>>180867785
Let's just ignore the troll and go back to discussing lore.
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>>180867785
We can't help it that autismanon blows a gasket whenever someone mentions Sera!
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>>180867785
You're right. Sorry, Lelanon.
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Sera has a lot of potential to be interesting from a lore perspective, it's a shame that she's so disgusting as a person.
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>>180868190
True. And in spite of everything, she does have a good point in that the Inquisitor should be relatable and not "scary."
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I just think it's funny that whiny anon keeps coming here despite hating everything that's posted here except for the same waifu pictures we've already seen dozens of times.
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>>180868550
He's only happy when he's trying to ruin things for others.
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>>180868705
Exactly.

What a petty and repulsive person.
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If Solas had children, would they inherit his talent for magic?

We know that Dreamer mages are exceedingly rare, but it would be neat if Solavellan child became another Kieran.
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>>180869350
Assuming magic is anything like any other inherited trait (which I'm fairly sure it is, seeing as Hawke's mom talks about "bringing more magic into the family" by marrying a mage), then maybe? Even elves without magical talent probably still have it in their genotype since magic used to be inherent in their species, so I'd guess that there's at least a 50% chance that their child would have magic as well.

Bear in mind I'm just basing this on what I know of genetics, which is admittedly really basic stuff, so feel free to correct me if I fucked up.
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>>180870008
I don't know much about genetics either, it's not really my main area of interest.

Still, it's something to consider. I wish BW let Weekes continue DA according to his vision so that he could make Solavellan canon, there's so much untapped potential in it.
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>>180870279
>I wish BW let Weekes continue DA according to his vision
He's head writer, isn't he? I'm not sure what you're worried about.
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>>180845428
>only likes her
Weak.
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>>180870543
They still have to take all the dudebros who'd get offended if female elf who romanced Solas was made canon into consideration while making the games.
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>>180858741
Congratulations! You are bad at this game.
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>>180870710
Eh, it'll probably be fine. I think Weekes favors Solas enough that he'll probably get some kind of positive outcome, and I don't have a problem with it not being the "official" canon as long as I can keep my story going.
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>>180871224
This, Solas is clearly Weekes' fav child and many people liked the romanced/appreciated it. There has been a lot of noise about it when Trespasser came out, so he will probably put a little bit of more care into it.

He also disliked how Thane was treated in ME3, so I'm hopeful to see the chance of a good outcome for Solavellan.
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>>180871491
Yeah, for all Weekes gets touted as a dark lord who loves to make the fans cry, he's surprisingly kind of a softie when it comes to romances.
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>>180870706
I like cute Elves too,including Solas!

>>180870817
Thanks! Origins is too hard for me.
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Ariane is so sweet!
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>>180767393

Yeah, it's my first playthrough.

It took me a million years to figure out how to use FRAPS, so here is my shitty screenshot.

I'm currently trying to get into Juhani's pants and do side quests until I have enough money to buy HK-47 since I'm a complete retard at swoop racing.
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>>180873348
How are you finding it so far, anon? I don't really love Star Wars but I've heard KOTOR is supposed to be really good.
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>>180791667
The Mother commanded the Darkspawn as any leader would, and despite varying degrees of intelligence and autonomy Darkspawn under her sway see to be unwaveringly loyal to her. If the remaining old gods command the Darkspawn in a similar manner, what happens in their absence? Would they default follow "the song"(some attack command instilled by the titans against surfacers----originally the a Ancient Elves by applied to all races now?) and overrun the world? How many Darkspawn could their be? By the form of the Ogres, Hurlocks, and Genlocks I assume they're corrupted Qunari, Humans, Dwarves, etc by the blight rather than some entirely different race.

Thinking about DAlore is annoying, even by Inquisition there's much more pieces to the lore revealed but not enough to draw any reasonable conclusions. I still don't know if stuff like Dark Ritual (much less the Well of Sorrows choice) is an incredibly dangerous choice that could screw over Thedas by DA4 or a good choice where everybody lives
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>>180873348
Please tell me your ship isn't still infested with gizka.

>>180873585
Both KOTORs are some of my favorite RPGs so I hope he likes it.
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>>180878376
Mabaris cut hard as a motherfucker for my boy Sandal
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>>180873585

I'm liking it, but from what I've played this game is one big homage to Star Wars, so I'm not sure I can recommend it to you. It has a lot of the things that make BioWare games good, though.

>>180876993

>Please tell me your ship isn't still infested with gizka

You mean I shouldn't just keep them until the end of the game?
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>>180880618
>Project Nugstorm
Pretty cute!
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>>180882302
>Iron Bull
That is one swole nug. Who's bottom right, Leliana?
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>>180878376
>>180874714
Please give Ariane her armor back.

That's rude.
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>>180878508
>HoF's mabari is most likely dead now
Feels bad.
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>>180764207

I don't use /vg/ often, why is Tyranny in the OP of a Bioware general? If I talk about Tyranny, am I going to get any responses?
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>>180887557
I haven't played it so I can't help you there. I've seen anons talking about it a couple of times before, though.
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>>180887557
>NOTE:
>We occasionally discuss other, smaller RPGs that don't have their own generals. This does not mean we are /wrpg/
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>>180888176

Ok, hopefully someone replies. Tyranny had and amazing premise in my opinion, a solid opening/exposition, and a pretty cool prologue that allows you to choose your character's starting reputation.

The whole game starts to fall apart for me in act 2.

I sided with the Scarlet Chorus because it made sense after being told that only 1/3 of the Disfavored were going to be there for the beginning. After that somehow I got locked into being the Voices of Nerat's errand boy, and here's where the problem lies. Based on the premise and setup, I should be under no compulsion to do exactly as Nerat asks right? I'm an agent of a completely different archon. So it's frustrating how, at the end of every quest, the game gives me no option but to send someone back to him to be killed. As far as I can tell, there's no way to avoid doing this. I tried going back to Tunon's court to tell him that Nerat was planning to take Zdenya away from him, but there's no option to tell him anything. and then at my trial, Tunon holds that against m, telling m I should have served his interests first.

I was trying to be loyal to Tunon and the law, but it feels like the game keeps repeatedly forcing me down a certain path because of who I sided with in the beginning.
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>>180888745
Wow. Reading that, I'm actually intrigued. It wouldn't happen to be playable on Mac OS, would it?
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>>180888981
>Tyranny is a role-playing video game developed by Obsidian Entertainment and published by Paradox Interactive. The game was released for Microsoft Windows, OS X, and Linux on November 10, 2016.
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>>180890082
Ooh, maybe I should give it a try. I'd be happy to talk about it afterwards too!
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>>180817993
>The Forgotten Ones = Forbidden Ones
>They were elves who abandoned Elvhenan in its greatest time of need to turn into spirits and flee in the Fade..
They are not the same group, the Seekers of Truth scholars are just dumb. Here are some of the codexes I posted some weeks ago:
>The legend says that before the fall of Arlathan, the gods we know and revere fought an endless war with others of their kind. There is not a hahren among us who remembers these others: Only in dreams do we hear whispered the names of "Geldauran" and Daern'thal and Anaris, for they are the Forgotten Ones, the gods of terror and malice, spite and pestilence"
>"There are no gods." There is only the subject and the object, the actor and the acted upon. Those with will to earn dominance over others gain title not by nature but by deed. "I am Geldauran, and I refuse those who would exert will upon me." Let Andruil's bow crack, let June's fire grow cold. Let them build temples and lure the faithful with promises. Their pride will consume them, and "I, forgotten, will claim power of my own, apart from them until I strike in mastery"
The Forgotten Ones were leaders of the Ancient Elves who rebelled against the Evanuris after they self-proclaimed themselves as "Elven Gods". Notice how the second codex says,"I, forgotten, will claim power of my own, apart from the Evanuris until I strike in mastery". The first codex mentions about an endless war between the aforthmentioned groups. One of the reasons why Solas had to create the Veil was to stop this endless war in Elvhenan. The Evanuris became powerful after drinking Lyrium/Ancient Dragon Blood(they took down the Titans/Ancient Dragons); Forgotten Ones became powerful after discovering the power of Red Lyrium, the source of the Blight.
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>>180890240
Do it!
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>>180887557
>>180888284

also Obsidian has a close relationship to BioWare

Chris Avellone and David Gaider are friends
two of Obsidian's games are direct sequels to BioWare Games
Alpha Protocol is similar in style to Mass Effect and Pillars of Eternity is similar in style to Baldur's Gate

the only Obsidian game that doesn't really belong in this general is Fallout: New Vegas because it belongs to an entirely different popular franchise
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>>180818396
Old Gods are basically Ancient Dragons "Hocruxes" of the Evanuris, just like Red Lyrium Dragon and Corypheus. They are not all part of Mythal.

>Mythal visits Sandal at night and scares him with her laughter.
Cute.

>>180819049
I don't think the Evanuris are blighted, they are locked behind Eluvians in the Black City. I mentioned earlier that Old Gods might be what is keeping the Evanuris immortal, so I don't get they would try to spread the Taint in Thedas, which would eventually corrupt and kill the Old Gods.

>>180819180
>Masked in mirror, hiding, hurting and to wake them..
Sounds like the Evanuris trapped behind the Eluvians to me; hiding from the Tainted Black City, waiting for someone to free them. The realm where Solas trapped them would be a nightmare of some sort, so they are suffering for eons.

Drakon/Andraste prophecy:
>And I looked up and saw
>The seven gates of the Black City shatter,
>And darkness cloaked both realms."
Seven Gates/Eluvians/Evanuris escaping and causing chaos.
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>>180866864
Somewhat... they reused the model for the boss because suits really wanted anothr boss fight there, no matter what.
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>>180894528
Oh okay. I ended up not playing it because I hate the Deep Roads in Origins!
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>>180894924
Anon.. the Deep Roads were BASED
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>>180894265
>seven Old Gods
>seven trapped Evanuris
This is borderline shower thoughts, but what if the Old Gods aren't horcruxes, but more like keys? What if killing all of them opens the Black City? That'd explain why they'd want the Blight to reach the mortal world (because in a roundabout way, it's probably the best way to ensure that they get removed), and why Solas is so opposed to the Grey Wardens.
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>>180875920
> By the form of the Ogres, Hurlocks, and Genlocks I assume they're corrupted Qunari, Humans, Dwarves, etc by the blight rather than some entirely different race.

Wrong! Any living being that is blighted and doesn't die becomes a ghoul, a mindless servant in a darkspawn horde. Darkspawn themselves are born from Broodmothers (tainted + raped + cannibalistic force fed) women of their respective species. You can't cure the Blight of a darkspawn and are left with a normal being, they're literally sustained by it. Although Matt Rhodes' design notes on the redesign read like there was some confusion among the staff about that too.

> I still don't know if stuff like Dark Ritual (much less the Well of Sorrows choice) is an incredibly dangerous choice that could screw over Thedas by DA4 or a good choice where everybody lives
Gaider said in an interview that Old God Baby wasn't necessarily the good choice.
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And you'd think we wouldnt just be standing there but noooo
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>>180895003
>What if the Old Gods aren't horcruxes, but more like keys?
That is the Veil according to Solas/Trespasser.
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Anyone here play Jade Empire?
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>>180895458
Played it years ago, but I remember it fondly. Was a shame that the fire demon transformation came so late in the game when it was useless, I loved the little buggers.
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>>180895419
Oh? I thought he said that bringing down the Veil wouldn't necessarily free them, but I'm probably just remembering wrong.
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>>180895694
He said the Evil Gods will return after the Veil comes down and he has a "plan" to stop them. I am really curious about his plan.
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>>180896017
Thank you for correcting me. I do have to wonder if the Old Gods are still involved somehow, though. Not just because of Solas's reaction to the Wardens wanting to kill them, but because Flemeth/Mythal went to such lengths to save Urthemiel's soul. They're obviously not "just" dragons, but then what are they?
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>>180895601
Yeah I played it back on original Xbox, had so much fun with it. The steam version is actually pretty good but I find it hard to get engaged since I already know the story.
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>>180897270
I still have to replay it, got it on Origin when they offered it up for free. I also got a problem going back playing BW games because the base story is so similar...
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>>180895458
Ugh, this is a Dragon Age general, get it through your thick skull and stop posting about shit nobody cares about.

>>180896315
Artificial creations maybe?
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>>180897793
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When will whiny anon fuck off for good?
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>>180898275
When our general dies for good, probably.

I think it's hilarious that some people manage to get triggered by something as innocent and interesting as lore.
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>>180892970
> BW game set in the world after the destruction of Evanuris/Titans/whatever

> Fallout: New Thedas
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>>180898735
I like it, though that assumes there will be a world left after the Evanuris and the titans and god knows what else. Everything right now is looking like we're on the train to the actual apocalypse and the brakes have been cut.
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>triggered by JE now
Just rename /dag/ /solore/ (Solas and Lore general) and stop fooling people
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>>180899113
It's just one jerk, anon. I never got to play Jade Empire, but if it helps, I'm interested in it and I'd like to hear what you have to say about it.
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>>180899113
Leliana too!
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>>180899113
I'm still upset that I couldn't fuck Sagacious Zu, I didn't want to romance chink Carth
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>>180898903
I know, I just want to spitball the idea. Let's just say that the complete destruction was averted at a heavy cost, Radiation = Blight, magic = technology? or a talent more common but few have the ressources to actively research it...

>>180899113
BW games, Lore, Sol and Lel are ok with me...
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>>180899113
>People are still posting what I don't like
>Guess I'll continue acting like a bitch instead of leaving them alone
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>>180899247
Different anon, but I remember the colours and comfy wuxia setting.

Come on BW, reuse Kang's arc for Archie
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>>180899336
I'm glad I'm bi master race because male bioware love interests are awful
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DA4 will be the last game in the series, or at least the last one that won't be ruined with MP garbage. Bioware aren't going to care about the franchise after Anthem sells 9999999999% more than DA4.
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>>180899714
I don't know that it'll be a big enough success to jeopardize Dragon Age. Destiny clones are the in thing right now, sure, but Bioware is coming in late to the game and they're not really known for making shooters.
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>>180899612
It is very comfy
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>>180900023
And some of the enemy designs are pretty fun.
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>>180900023
>using the loli companion
Really?
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>>180900083
Nice. Looks a bit like the demons from Dark Souls... or I guess the Dark Souls demons look like that, rather.
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>>180899703
Try going to tumblr maybe.

>>180899714
I seriously doubt the lore in that game will be as good as DA's. The lore community is the only reason why anyone still cares about franchise, Antem is never going to surpass it.
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>>180899336
even if he looked like this?
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>>180900170
>loli
Kyaa anon-sama~
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>>180900378
>you'll never make Sagacious Zu pregnant
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>>180896315
>"Your heart beats with the old blood, as well. Where do you think it comes from? It sings of a time when dragons ruled the skies. A time before the Veil, before the mysteries were forgotten. Can you hear it?" -Yavana(Flemeth's daughter) to Warden Alistair
I think they were primordial beings that became the first of the Dragons, Ancient Dragons that ruled the skies before the Veil was created. And the Titans ruled the earth. Most of the Ancient Dragons were killed by the Ancient Elves/Evanuris except some which are known as the Old Gods today. The Evanuris invested a part of their souls into these remaining Ancient Dragons and became immortal.

>"The blood of dragons is the blood of the world. In destroying what it does not understand, mankind would destroy itself." -Yavana
If all the dragons go extinct then something bad would happen in Thedas. And Mythal and her daughters were trying their hardest to save these dragons. Mythal will resume her plan after getting a new host.


>>180875920
>If the remaining old gods command the Darkspawn in a similar manner
Sentient Broodmothers, Awakened Darkspawn, Hurlock/Genlock/Hurlock leaders, the seven Magister Lords can command a group of darkspawn too. Though the Archdemon maintains the ultimate command over the entire darkspawn horde, because of the Calling/Song.

>What happens in their absence?
They would be free of the Calling and majority of the existing darkspawn would become sentient. The Broodmothers may go insane, like the Mother, and in turn produce darkspawn who obey their command. The darkspawn would start fighting each other.

The song of the Old Gods and the song of the Titans are different. A darkspawn will not follow the song of lyrium/the Titans.
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>>180900665
>The Evanuris invested a part of their souls into these remaining Ancient Dragons and became immortal.
Was this explicitly stated anywhere? Because if it's just theory, it does make some sense considering the concept of becoming immortal via dragons just came up with Corypheus. It seems like too big a thing to not use again.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hw6ymPBAyE
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>>180902286
>Anders's callout when romanced sounds genuinely distressed and heartbroken
>Fenris just goes "Nope, not okay"
T-this is fine...
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I just want you to know that I love all loreposters.

You guys rock.
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>>180902705
Thanks, m8. Love you too.
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>>180902256
It is just a theory at this point. It makes sense because Corypheus transferred his essence/soul into the Red Lyrium Dragon after he got Mythal's Elven Orb. Also Solas in Trespasser dlc says that he never imagined that a Magister Lord would have discovered the secret of "effective immortality".
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>>180903339
Trespasser DLC again. Sorry, I keep fucking that up and I know I shouldn't. I was in an overly emotional state the first time I played through it and it was way late at night because I blasted through the entire thing as soon as it came out, so a lot of the details are kind of blurry.
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>>180903448
No problem, my memories are blurry too! I don't even know who this "Felassan" guy is, in the Trespasser dlc. I need to replay Dragon Age 2, Legacy, Inquisition and all its dlc to refresh my lore memory.
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Post your:
>Husbando or waifu
>Favorite ancient elven god
>Favorite obscure bit of lore
>Aspect of DA lore you wish was better developed
>Your thoughts on Solas (his romance, his future, your Lavellan's relationship with him, etc.)
>Song
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>>180903651
Felassan is a character in Masked Empire, one of the books. I couldn't fucking stand that shit and he was the only thing I liked about it tbqh.

>>180903653
>Favorite ancient elven god
Conceptually I like Dirthamen because a god of secrets is pretty cool, but favorite overall would be... I guess June? We never hear all that much about what he does, so I like to imagine he just kind of stands around being oblivious while the other gods do their thing. Also his vallaslin is GOAT.

>Favorite obscure bit of lore
Hard to say. I'd like to see as many ideas explored and explained as possible.

>Aspect of DA lore you wish was better developed
Dwarves. Everything about dwarves. I want to know their secrets now more than ever after Descent.

>Your thoughts on Solas (his romance, his future, your Lavellan's relationship with him, etc.)
Definitely provoked the strongest and most visceral response from me out of any Bioware romance, for good or ill. It might only have a handful of scenes, but they're masterfully done and I like that there's room to fill in the blanks. As for the future, all I'm specifically hoping for is that A) we're not railroaded into a bad ending and B) he gets a badass, terrifying demon wolf form.

>Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2WH8mHJnhM
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>>180903653
>Favorite ancient elven god
Fen'Harel and Mythal.

>Favorite obscure bit of lore
Definitely the hidden codex entries in Trespasser.

>Aspect of DA lore you wish was better developed
The Order of Fiery Promise as well as the Empty Ones, I wonder if they have a connection with the Old Gods or the imprisoned Evanuris.

>Your thoughts on Solas (his romance, his future, your Lavellan's relationship with him, etc.)
He definitely has the best romance in any Bioware game to date, it's a shame most people can't look past his supposed racism and see that he's actually an amazingly written character. I hope we can redeem him in DA4, my Lavellan deserves some happiness after all she's been through.

>Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4V3Mo61fJM
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>>180905621
I don't know if we'll get anything of the Empty Ones, but I could see the Order of Fiery Promise making a comeback, especially if the events going forward have as much to do with the Canticle of Exaltations as I think they do.
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>>180906041
The two are pretty similar so I wouldn't be surprised if the Order of Fiery Promise was created by the remnants of the Empty Ones.

>The Empty Ones were a small and short-lived cult based in Nevarra and known for worshipping the blight and, by extension, the darkspawn. Some confuse the Empty Ones with followers of Tevinter's Old Gods—a reasonable mistake since Archdemons are said to be tainted Old Gods. However, it is clear from the histories that the Empty Ones did not worship Dumat and his ilk, but the blight itself.

>Following Andraste's death, many of her followers fell into a deep despair. They believed that the Prophet's betrayal and execution marked the beginning of the end of the world and that the Maker's wrath would soon come upon them. The most fatalistic of them all gathered together to prepare for their doom. They called themselves the Empty Ones, for they saw themselves as worthless husks, ready to be swept away by the Maker's hand.

>It is unknown what passed then, but over time, the Empty Ones grew to believe that the blight was to be the tool by with the Maker would end all of creation. They preached that it came from the Void, a place of nothing, and that returning to the Void was something to be celebrated because it meant an end to all pain and all suffering.

>Some mistakenly take this to mean that the Empty Ones worshipped evil, but that is an oversimplification. The Empty Ones believed the world to be beyond redemption, and that it was the Maker's will that it be destroyed completely. There are tales of Empty Ones scouring the Deep Roads, searching for darkspawn, whom they saw as the blight's prophets in order to assist them in bringing about the next Blight.

>Predictably, the beginning of the Second Blight saw the end of the Empty Ones. The entire cult made its way to the Anderfels, where they stood in the path of the encroaching darkspawn and, singing in praise of the oblivion that was to overtake them, were consumed.
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>>180906283
The Empty Ones come off as more inactive and resigned to the world ending where the Order is more about bringing the end of the world to cleanse it for what comes after. You have a point, though. Hell, maybe a few of them even survived as ghouls to pass on their doctrine.
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>>180904745
>Felassan is a character in Masked Empire, one of the books.
Oh, whoops! Do you know a lot about Dragon Age books? Are there any lore-important comics that take place before the events of Origins or between Origins and Dragon Age 2? I know about the Silent Grove. And I am pretty sure they will expand on the Dwarves/Titans in the next game.

>>180906283
>They preached that blight came from the Void, a place of nothing, and that returning to the Void was something to be celebrated because it meant an end to all pain and all suffering.

>"One day Andruil grew tired of hunting mortal men and beasts. She began stalking The Forgotten Ones, wicked things that thrive in the abyss. Yet even a god should not linger there, and each time she entered the "Void", Andruil suffered longer and longer periods of madness after returning."
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>>180907408
No worries. I've read all the books so far, but not the comics beyond synopses since I tend to get picky about the artwork. Asunder and Last Flight are my personal favorites. Masked Empire is pretty much the backstory to Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts, so I'd say it and Asunder are about the closest to required reading as any of the spinoff stuff gets (at least up to this point).
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>>180907669
Thanks!
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>>180883851
The dress makes Ariane look graceful!

>>180883663
Yes, the hooded nug is Leliana!

>>180885524
I never cared about Warden's Mabari. Nugs are far better pets, and I am glad that Schmooples' legacy is alive in the form of Schmooples the Second, even after 14 years.
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>>180903339
I thought the source of his immortality was his superior version of body hopping(possessing GWs doesn't kill him) and the dragon was his undoing because he invested so much power on it he became temporarily vulnerable when it died.
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Shut your stupid whore mouths, I'd rather just blog about my real life
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>>180910535
Good thing there's a board for that!

>>>/r9k/
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>>180910579
Umm it was a humorous post poking fun at whiny anon's inability to provide anything other than blogposts to our general, anon.
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kieran's first pubes
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>>180911046
If all you can do is make disgusting shitposts, it would be better if you didn't post here at all.
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>>180911115
too bad nobody gives a single fuck about what you would consider to be better
>>180911117
black kieran would be cute too
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Why is whiny anon upset now?
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>>180911362
you mean >>180911115 ?
i really don't know, talking about topics other than solas seems to really upset them, don't worry about it.
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>>180911362
Not enough pictures of Sera in this thread, perhaps?

Or maybe the lore is hurting his tiny troll brain?
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>>180911486
No anon, I meant the sad little man who posts gross Kieran shit and disgusting blackwashed tumblr "art" for no good reason.
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>>180911574
no idea what you are talking about
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>>180911524
Whiny anon hates Sera!
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>>180911645
I'm pretty sure he's a Serafag, Leliana anon.

Nobody else would hate Solas this much.
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>>180911619
That's because you're the one who posted them.

Honestly, why do you keep coming here? Nobody likes you and you don't like us.
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>>180911783
you are one paranoid motherfucker, i'm a bit worried honestly
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>>180911783
You're that one faggot anon, aren't you?
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>>180911853
Why thank you.

>>180912149
I'm a straight girl, not a faggot, anon.
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>>180912293
Ah, I knew it! Faggot anon, I think you're a quality poster. Never leave, you gender confused faggot.
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>Faggot anon
>Whiny anon
>Bitch anon

We need more nice nicknames!
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>>180912374
Hi, lazy anon.
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Stop it, just fucking stop. Responding to Kieran anon does nothing and his shitposts aren't worth this much attention. Just ignore him already.
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>>180912472
Well, what do you suppose we talk about instead?
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with all their progressive BS in BW games recently i'm glad kieran is white no matter what color the dad is
>>180912472
what the hell is your problem? please calm down a little
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>>180912659
The discussion about Archie earlier in the thread was pretty interesting.
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>>180912737
Oh, no it wasn't.
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>>180912737
Pretty sure that conversation already ran its course, which is why it ended.
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>>180912703
Fucking leave already.
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>>180912831
Explain to me why I should dislike Kieran poster.
He seems tame to me.
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Y'all motherfuckers need Andraste
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>>180912659
Literally anything else? We were having a good conversation about the books earlier, how about that?

>>180912703
My problem is that someone, and I am not pointing fingers, has been nothing but catty and confrontational in an attempt to upset people over the past few days. I think /dag/ can be a great general, but it's a problem when there are people here constantly trying to start shit.
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>>180912896
Would Andraste teach these anons not to get so triggered by the weakest of bait?
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>>180912886
All he does is false-flag and whine about lore posters, anon.
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>>180912972
I'm pretty sure they're beyond even Her help..

Just kidding! Andraste can do anything!
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>>180912996
That's it, I'm devoting myself to Andraste.
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None of this shit would have happened if your dagpanions were still here.
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>>180912896
Humans need to return to the gods of their ancestors. They will never be whole as long as they follow modified elven legends and slave songs.
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>>180913054
What shit?
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>>180913153
When you don't know something that others apparently know, it's a sure sign that you are a newfag and should lurk some more. Take that widsom with you wherever you go.
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>>180913265
Get over yourself. There's no reason to treat others poorly.
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>>180913054
Jealous anons drove them away...
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>>180913147
So, Old God worship or animism?
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>>180913265
What the hell are you even bitching about now?
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>>180913539
Yeah people that are unironically jealous of someone being popular in a thread on 4chan. Imagine being so pathetic that this is your goal but you fail even at that.
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I like the Frostback Basin. It's a shame that JoH feels so unnecessary, though.
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>>180914439
You just described Kieran anon.
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>>180914676
Ok? What am I supposed to do about it?
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>>180914708
Anti-Kieran anon a.k.a. faggot anon is just as bad, to be honest.
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>>180914880
I was just trying to start a conversation, sorry.
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>>180914708
We established the nickname "Kieranon" months ago, newshit.
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Anons, if you don't spam lore around the clock you aren't true /dag/gies and have no business being here with us anons, anons, so fuck off, anti-lore anons, anons
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>>180915359
I like the way you type, Kieranon.
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What is /dag/'s favorite map? How about least favorite?
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>>180915509
de_dust2 is the best hands down
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>>180915509
My favorite and least favorite map is Flemeth's Hut.
Liked the atmosphere. Felt a bit cozy, despite being in a marsh.
Disliked fighting there.
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>>180915691
I liked how unsettling that area was. There's something about an unassuming little ramshackle hut in the middle of a swamp that's just so spooky.

It's going to sound like a meme, but I really liked the tower in Legacy. I also like Emprise du Lion and the Emerald Graves, especially that one mansion full of demons.
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>>180914676
I'm not a lorefag so I didn't even read all of those avvar walls of text, but liked it because Ameridan was cool and it had qt Bram and some Harding screentime
>>180915509
Favorite - Crestwood
Lest favorite - Forbidden Oasis
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>>180916343
I should have realized you're the Kieranon.

It's obvious you hate loreposters for some reason but I can't even begin to imagine what we did to make you troll a general you don't even like.
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>>180916343
Oh yeah, I did like seeing more of Harding. Her relationship with Kenric is pretty sweet and Kenric himself is adorable. But you don't like the Oasis? Is it because of all the cliffs?
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>>180916540
Do you ever sleep?
>>180916595
I fucking hate desert maps and it's also a nightmare trying to get all the shards
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>>180916680
Getting the shards can be a pain, but it's not so bad if you're creative with your climbing. Still, I get what you mean. I'm not big on desert maps either.
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>>180907408
Solas mentions the Void too, when he talks about his dead Wisdom friend who might return, even if with different memories and personality.

>"There are stirrings in the Void."

So after dying, a spirit might return, coming from the Void, a sort of death and rebirth cycle, although the personality is different and only the "connotation" (Wisdom, Love, Faith etc.) remains.

>She began stalking The Forgotten Ones, wicked things that thrive in the abyss

We know that the Forgotten Ones were exiled by the Evanuris in the Fade and were never allowed to take physical form again and to walk in the lands of the gods. Maybe the Void is a dark, sickened part of the Fade?
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>>180899714
Anthem and DA are two different genres, though. Bioware is known mainly for their RPG games and Anthem is already a risky project as it is.

Even if it succeeds greatly, I doubt Bioware will completely shift their focus to that genre; they will most likely devote the old ME team to those games, while the rest of Edmonton continues the RPG tradition. The two things can perfectly coexist together.
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>>180899714
i'd be happy with a kieran standalone game no matter the genre
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>>180896017
He doesn't exactly say that.

>Inquisitor: "Had the Veil fallen, wouldn't the false gods have been free?"
>Solas: "I had plans."

It's not clear whether he means "Don't worry, I had plans to keep them locked away" or if he means "I had plans to deal with them."

I doubt it's the second one, though, he couldn't kill them when he was at his mightest, how did he intend to deal with them when he was considerably weakened?
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>>180916765
I'm kind of spatially challenged so I spent way too much time trying to figure out where these corridors go. Anyway, three desert maps in the same game is way too fucking much, comfy forests and meadows are much better. I'd even take a fucking tundra over a desert map
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>>180917553
Yeah. Too much sand, too much of the same scenery. The Hissing Wastes were better because of the atmosphere, but still not ideal.
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>>180917553
Nobody cares.

Cease your weak attempts to act like several people and leave us alone, Kieranon.
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>>180913560
Old gods. Humans seem to be drawn to dragon worship for some mysterious reason. Dragon cults have been reported in areas that have never been conquered by the Imperium and we haven't seen any non-human members.
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>>180917553
>mfw when I first explored the Emerald Graves, read the codex entries about the Emerald Knights, saw the Chantry statues and the Orlesian villas and explored the Din'an Hanin while The Lost Temple track played in the background

I really wasn't expecting that map to be so beautiful and eerie.
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>>180917963
There is a kind of sinister undercurrent to its beauty, now that you mention it. I guess that's to be expected considering the history of the region, but hey.
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>>180917657
Pissing wastes are better because it's night and at least it doesn't look like it would be hot as fuck to run around in all that sand
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>>180917776
Shut the fuck up, lady
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>>180918247
It's more the atmosphere that gets me. Staring out into the horizon and just letting the scope of your vision widen until there's nothing but sand and sky... for a video game, it's really good at making you feel small.
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The Blight is poison meant to destroy Titans. The Evanuris made it.
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>>180918061
>hundreds of trees that symbolize all the elves who sacrificed themselves to protect their home
>the tomb of the Emerald Knights is literally called "Place where glory ends”
>there you learn of Elandrin and his doomed romance that caused the Exalted Marches on the Dales
>the Orlesians have built statues of Andraste and villas without giving a shit about the elven ruins and the holiness of that place
>there is a giant tree with a statue of the Dread Wolf near it used by the Dalish to hang the humans who bother them
>that creepy-ass villa haunted by a possessed little girl who just wanted to have a friend
>that crazy man who thought he knew how to close the Rifts and left his journals scattered around explaining his theories and you find his corpse near one of the open Rifts
>that lady who killed herself jumping off a waterfall, her body still in the water
>those giants chilling in the high clearing near the "vallasdahlen", the "trees of life" of the elves
>Red Templars chilling in the same zone, surrounded by all that green
>that beautiful dragon sleeping in those ruins

The Emerald Graves might be even creepier than the Exalted Plains.
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I wish /dag/ wasn't so male-centric.
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>>180918764
It's just bad vibes everywhere with that place. I should love it and think it's comfy because aesthetically it's just what I like in maps, but there's too much about it that's WRONG.
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Is there a mod for Inquisition, that makes gathering materials less shit?
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>>180920207
I can't mod, but I think another anon posted this one not too long ago. Apparently it removes the gathering animation so it goes a little quicker.
http://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/788/?
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>>180915509
The circle tower is my least favorite. I dread having to do it every time i play origins. My favorite might be the western approach because its just beautiful to look at.
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>>180921029
Right? I HATE the tower, plus the Fade sequence two-thirds of the way through is such padded bullshit.
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>>180920416
I was thinking more along the lines of more resources per node, but this will do. At the very least it will make it slightly less annoying.
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>>180921182
Ah. Well, there are in-game perks you can get for more efficient plant harvesting. Not sure if there's anything similar for mining, though.
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>>180915509
>favorite
Literally everything about the Deep Roads and Orzammar in DA:O

>least favorite
The entire Kirkwall.

I can bet on anything you can think of that I, a single man alone, can create a more lively, believable and atmospheric city if I had the ingame assets and the map creator.

I have no fucking idea how did they fuck kirkwall that bad in DA2.
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>>180921654
It's a bit autistic but I liked how there was a clear sense where everything is located in Kirkwall, like you can see the gallows from hightown and hightown from the lowtown and so on. It's better than Denerim where fort Drakon is fuck knows where and Val Royeux which is just one big square
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Superior ancient old bald elf coming through.
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>>180922361
This guy is a bastard.
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>>180922361
>that terribly sad text in WoT2 where the Dalish hahren in the Arlathvhen wonder what kind of horrible life Zathrian must have led
>tfw you realize what they say about immortality and loneliness fits Solas and all the true ancient elves perfectly too
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>>180918867
kieran is for everyone
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To be against Kieranon is to be against Dragon Age
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>>180923298
He's the only good poster right now, a counterbalance to the cancerous elfshit.
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>>180923298
>Shitting a general up for no reason whatsoever
What's your mental illness?
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>>180923686
i'm glad kieran got rid of the old god soul because all that shit will date back to le elves again anyway, the less heh as to do with that the better
>>180924797
what's yours? we are talking about DA while you are trying to upset people with nonsensical posts
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>>180923686
Grow up or get out.
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>>180925021
I do kind of feel sorry for the people that have waifus that have deep connections with the current DA lore because boy did it turn out to be bad.
>>180925043
You have serious issues. People can post what they want in here, brainlet.
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>>180925587
Please, Kieran posting is a clear attempt to mock lore posters by some false-flagger.

It's supposed to be 'ironic', which is baffling to me because I can't understand people who hate DA lore yet keep coming here.
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>>180925587
exactly, kieran may be safe but morrigan will become an elven god or some shit, i really like her but this will ruin her.
>>180926759
take your meds. i'm also not "false-flagging" or anything, you have no idea what that actually means, do you? yet you keep using that term.
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::ChEcK OuT ThAt FrEsH PoStInG StYlE I JuSt ClAiMeD FoR MySeLf::
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>>180927172
See

>>180927304

It's clear you're only posting like that while trolling.
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HOW MANY SAMEFAG IPs ARE YOU ON
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>>180927612
Who are you talking about, anon?
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>>180927612
Like 5 or 6 right now, my dude.
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I'M A PIONEER. I'M AN EXPLORER. I'M A HUMAN, AND I'M COMIN'. I'M ANIMATED. I'M ALIVE. MY HEART'S BIG, ITS GOT HOT BLOOD GOIN' THROUGH IT FAST. I LIKE TO FIGHT, TOO! I LIKE TO EAT! I LIKE TO HAVE CHILDREN! I'M HERE. I GOT A LIFE FORCE. THIS IS A HUMAN. THIS IS WHAT WE LOOK LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE ACT LIKE. THIS IS WHAT EVERYBODY WAS LIKE BEFORE US. THIS IS WHAT I AM. I'M A THROWBACK. I'M HERE. I GOT THE FIRE OF HUMAN LIBERTY. I'M SETTIN' FIRES EVERYWHERE, AND HUMANS ARE TURNING ON EVERYWHERE.
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>>180929914
Please stop shouting
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I hope they bring back gold, silver and coppers in DA4 desu.

I disliked the single unit system in DA:I. Just "gold"? Nah, don't want that shit.
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Which valuables can I sell?
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Who's Kierananon?
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>>180933651
It's Kieranon, you illiterate!
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>>180933651
False-flagging whiny anon.
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>>180930663
Well, at least the bridge in Emprise du Lion was pretty beautiful and perfectly matching the surrounding architecture.
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>>180933651
The only not insufferable active poster right now.
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>>180902286
> the twins
oh no

I miss that (barely hear the cries of my companions in DAI) and the affirmation/irritation companions would express if you selected them as played characters in DAO.
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>>180922090
I'll never forget the anon who only realized when we talked about this in a thread that the Gallows are located on an island in the middle of the bay. I just wish Kirkwall was bigger and livelier, I love its look.

Also, here's Fort Drakon in relation to Denerim from concept art.
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>>180922652
> when the cutscene plays when you discover Skyhold Solas wears a pre-set staff
> same model as Zathrian's
They knew what they were doing.
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>>180936481
Maybe we will get to see it again in DA4. I'm hoping for big, lively cities like Origins, especially if we are going to see Minrathous and other cities in the north like Nevarra and maybe Starkhaven too (the new comic seems to be hinting at the latter, especially).

Now that they finally pin-pointed the style of the different cultures down, it's time to see them in motion for real and explore the cities and what they have to offer. Val Royeaux was nice, aesthetically speaking, but it felt like you were allowed to explore only the market, while the big, rich, important parts of the city were closed off. Where was the Grand Cathredal with its towers? Where were the slums, the alienage?
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>>180938182
The alienage in Val was the one where barely any light got in, right? Fuck, that'd have been a depressing sight to see. I guess they couldn't think up for enough quests that'd justify this extra area, same with the cathedral. Even though it's a fucking shame because that one sounded at least remotedly like something interesting.

They better whip the polygons real good to make the jet buidlings that are perserved with magic look fine. Tevinter got such a neat blend of oriental and eastern designs in WOT.
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>>180936481
This must be some very early concept art because Fort Drakon is just a big tower in game.
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>>180940006
Yeah, but I like the... verticality it gives the city. And at this point I can't recall anything that /hasn't/ been redesigned since its introduction in DAO. So like, if they ever churn out some big coloured illustrations for the cities/areas of importance in Thedas, I hope they reuse it.
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One month ago, Alexis Kennedy, the new writer at Bioware, posted this on his personal blog:

>http://weatherfactory.biz/the-shadow-s-tale/

He discuss all the noise and rumors and hype surrounding his interview with Eurogamer, which was immediately turned into a "DA4 confirmed" kind of thing.

>So I can neither confirm nor deny what people have assumed I’m working on: but I will share a cautionary tale.

>Back in early 2014, when I was still running Failbetter, we announced a collaboration with BioWare. We didn’t share any details.

>A few months later, BioWare teased a new IP, Shadow Realms. Eurogamer, PC Gamer and Polygon noticed that the Shadow Realms trademark had been registered the day after I announced the Failbetter/BioWare collaboration, and all three suggested that Failbetter was working on Shadow Realms.

>It was an entirely reasonable assumption, and a nice bit of detective work, but it was just an assumption, and it turned out to be flat wrong. The Failbetter/BioWare project was Dragon Age: The Last Court. Shadow Realms was something completely different, which sadly got canned (it looked fun!)

>So if you’re looking forward to the next Dragon Age, read what I’ve said, listen to the commentary, and make up your own mind.

I am worried about this. It's like he's saying "Don't get your hopes too high, because you'll only get burned." Either he has to damage control hard because the reveal about DA4 came too soon or he really is working on something else. DA-related, yes, but not really what people want after three years of wait.
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>>180940204
It looked like that in the act 1 cutscene in DA2, the game that was built from the ground with the new art style so it's safe to say that it's set in stone now.
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I'm at the point in Inquisition where you have to pick the In Hushed Whisper (Mage) or the Champions of the Just (Templars) quest. Who should I side with?
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>>180940779
I really hope they're at least working on a DA-related game like all the flash games... I need some news...


>>180941272
What's your Quiz like? Who would they side with? Hushed Whispers has a pretty cool arc.
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>>180940779
I want to hope that he just spoke too soon and he's trying to damage control, but I can't help but think that we're a little bit fucked. But, I mean, it's been three years (or a year and a half if you want to start counting from Trespasser). And Knight Errant is supposed to be a lead-in, isn't it?

>>180941272
What kind of Inquisitor are you playing?
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I'm currently playing a mage on my first playthrough on normal difficulty. Should I go for Knight Enchanter as second specilization? Can't quite decide between that and Rift Mage. Also, I heard that KE is the go-to for nightmare playthroughs, but I'd like to pic another class for that, anything recommended for nightmare rogue/warrior?
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>>180917492
I love how he says "had" past-tense, as in, there was a plan, but there might not be one anymore. He's not even worried about them anymore, all he wants is for the Veil to be gone.
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At 1:01:00 mark, Mike Laidlaw, creator director of Dragon Age mentions:
>It's no secret that we're doing something with Dragon Age. I can't talk about what, but we're certainly involved in something.

https://soundcloud.com/the1099/episode-98-mike-laidlaw-on-how-dragon-age-is-made-and-the-probability-of-jade-empire-2

Also, Jade Empire 2 was a thing.
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>>180943568
creative director*
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>>180941420
>I really hope they're at least working on a DA-related game like all the flash games... I need some news...

Same, but that would suck so much. It wouldn't be a full RPG game you can lose yourself in, something that would decently conclude what Inquisition started. And it sounds like what Kennedy is working on is way more complex than that.

>>180941530
Yeah, usually a sequel is started immediately after the release of the last game, especially one with such an open ending like Inquisition/Trespasser. Wasting three years like that for a minor project sounds stupid and financially crazy, they could ride the hype like there's no tomorrow and people would get mad and disappointed, especially after all those pics posted by Darrah. DA is also their last remaining RPG, now that ME is fucked, so they could - and SHOULD - really do great things with it.

Like I said, Kennedy described a complex game: full voice acting (which he has some trouble with, because he isn't used to writing with that in mind), complex storylines and lore he has to write down on a map on the wall to remember everything, direct communication with the other writers... he did nothing like that while working on The Last Court, so at least we can be sure it's not a web browser game like that one.

>>180943568
>It's no secret that we're doing something with Dragon Age. I can't talk about what, but we're certainly involved in something.

>mfw
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>>180943894
Maybe they're planning on something like DA2 was supposed to be? Side-chapter mopping up the Quiz? But that doesn't make sense either...

Wicked Grace to imitate Gwent?
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>>180942848
KE's good and it has one of the few actual healing abilities in the game (which can be very useful!), but I prefer Rift Mage for the sheer utility. Weakening works on just about everything you encounter, and even if it doesn't Stonefist still hurts like a bitch and Veilstrike is nice for stuns. There's also Firestorm, which is probably the most unbelievably satisfying Focus skill I've used. Overall, very good for crowd control and support, the passives are strong and the spells hit hard in their own right.

>>180943894
That's pretty comforting. Thanks for pointing that out, anon!
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>>180943568
Wait, he says something else at the very end:

>They are hiring a lot of EXPERIENCED people, in environment design and gameplay.

>He mentions the new comic, Knight Errant, again.

>He says that "there are other things in progress, but I can't talk about them until they are realized". Still, "things continue, at a pace", and the fact that he is still the Creative Director for DA is a good sign, because it means things are going well.

Okay, I'm definitely sure they are planning the next game + big stuff surrounding it, now. Maybe there will be DA4 + another smaller "game" + marketing stuff. It seems they are really building a lot of content.
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>>180944386
I'm really torn now, I've got an elf quiz and have always been a slut for Arcane Warrior, and from what I've heard in-game it's like that, but all what you mention sounds so good...
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>>180944963
He also talk about the open-world. Dragon Age 2 was a bit too tight and Inquisition was too open at times.
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>>180945340
I mean, from what I've heard KE is like Arcane Warrior, but now I really can't decide between it and Rift Mage.
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>>180945340
Knight-Enchanter is a little bit different from Arcane Warrior, I think. Very much like a war cleric where you're doing major DPS as well as support, though apparently Spirit Blade's been nerfed somewhat.
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I love this cover!
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>>180946194
I wish Weekes wrote a Solas novel...
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>>180946194
I still respect Loghain for respeccing from rogue to warrior in the ~ twenty years between that book and Origins.
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>>180946421
Has he contributed to any of the Dragon Age novels/comics?

>>180946513
He used to be poor farmer boy!
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>>180947125
Nate, Sebastian and Varric are from wealthy families and are rogues as welll, it's just rare that someone rerolls their character like that.
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>>180947125
He wrote The Masked Empire, which deals with a lot of the stuff presented in Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts and add a shitton of stuff to the elven lore.

It's where he first played with the idea of Fen'Harel, too. Felassan was such a great guy ;_;
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>>180947574
I am looking forward to reading it! How it fares against novels written by David Gaider, like the Asunder for example?
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>>180948465
Heard some like it better than Gaider's, which isn't hard. Gaider really ain't for books or doing things solo.
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Anyone have or know where to find the comics? Preferably for free
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>>180948465
Personally, I prefer Weekes' style over Gaider's. Weekes has a better grasp on characters, he deals with interesting concepts and storylines, his lore is on point, and he likes simple, but effective plot twist.
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>>180948465
Not that anon, but I absolutely hated it, not for the writing so much as the characters. Celene is a horrible person, Michel is a plank of wood, and Briala enables Celene. Felassan was the only character in the whole book who I found at all likable. It wasn't bad from a writing perspective, though, and compared to Stolen Throne or the Calling it felt less... clunky, I guess?
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>>180948656
I found the Silent Grove comic here!
http://view-comic.com/category/dragon-age-the-silent-grove/

You have to buy the novels.
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>>180935334
thanks anon, i can't post as much as these nolife spammers but i do my best
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>>180948465
DA novels & Comics rated from best to worst:

Last Flight
Masked Empire (I'll miss you, Best Elf T__T)
Asunder
Silent Grove/Those Who Speak/Until We Sleep
The Calling & The Stolen Throne
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Magekiller
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Let me get this straight
> Stolen Throne (novel)
Maric and Loghain backstory
> Calling (novel)
Backstory for Fiona, Loghain, Duncan, Architect
Origins
> Silent Grove/Those Who Speak/Until We Sleep (comic)
Alistair + Varric + Bela search for Maric, introduces Mae and Maric's dragonblood
DA2
> Asunder (novel)
Introduction of Cole, Fiona, cure for Tranquility, start Templar-Mage war, Wynne dies
> Last Court (Flash Game)
> Masked Empire (Celene/Gaspard/Briala backstory, Fen'Harel intro)
DAI
> Magekiller/Knight Errant (comics)
Calpernia's ex and his elf friend tour around Thedas

>>180949805
> Last Flight
Don't know when it takes places, something something Grey Wardens, griffon chicks, nonbinary character?
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>>180950002
That's about right, though I don't think Loghain was involved much in the Calling.
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>>180949805
>>180950002
Thanks anons, this helps a lot!
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>>180950251
I remember that one being the reason for his massive distrust of the Grey Wardens IIRC. What's Magekiller/Knight Errant actually about, that was just a shitposted guess since that's all I know about it. I will say that I enjoyed the issues that was posted here a few threads ago with the thief remembering her chill Dalish uncle.
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>>180950002
Maybe one of the things they are working on >>180944963 is another novel that will pave the way for DA4.

I can't believe DA missed the E3, I'm starving for serious news. Can't /dag/ contact some badass hacker and convince them to hack the servers at Bioware to see what they are doing like it happened to the poor Red Projekt folks?
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>>180949739
No one expects a functioning human being to post here 24/7, all good.
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>>180950686
Why would they hire multiple people for a novel, though? Especially if those people have experience in gameplay and environmental design, but there's no mention of their writing?
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>>180950486
*the issue, I just know that one, the rest via Osmosis. Same with Last Flight.
Really wish we'd go to the extreme far our settings, like the Donarks, those elves who worship the Forgotten Ones, or the land beyond the Amaranthine ocean.

>>180950686
I really don't know or can guess, since they mentioned VA and all... DA VN when? I know E3 is pretty important but for the past few years I've seen more and more apathy and banality in it... either they wanted to save themselves from it or literally had nothing to show yet.
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>>180950002
Last Flight takes place while DAI is ongoing. It's completely removed from what's happening in the game, but has lots of great implications for DA4, and explores the events of the 4th Blight, and the Wardens and griffons who took down Andoral.

It's a very tight story, with narrative which interweaves the past and present of Thedas, and really gets into the desperation and dread that accompanies a true Blight.

Also, griffons are cool.
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>>180950701
Why are you still here, whiny anon?
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>>180951040
Damn, I should really bump that up my priority order then. I know >>180949805 ranks it pretty high, but are there more opinions on it?
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>>180950938
Yeah, they are working on a game; Mike Laidlaw said he is hiring level-designers and gameplay-designers.
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>>180950701
as long as i know someone else appreciates this qt it's still worth visiting this general
>>180951059
don't start shit again, it's enough now
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>>180951171
I thought Last Flight was pretty good. The pacing is nice and it fleshes out the history of the series in a really interesting way.
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>>180950938
Dude, reread the post I quoted. They are working on other stuff related to DA, not just one game. One of those things might be a novel, that's why they can't say anything until it's "realized".
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>>180950486
So far, Knight Errant has been a lot better than Magekiller. Vaea & Ser Aaron are more likeable than Tessa & 2nd-rate Fenris (ahem, I mean Marius)
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>>180951334
Your samefagging isn't fooling anyone.

Remember, subtlety is important.
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>>180951446
Yeah, I spoke a little too soon. Sorry about that.
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>>180951537
now your paranoia is just getting tiresome, just stop posting
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>>180952789
Kieran has a shrinked adult's body.
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>>180953128
as is tradition with Bioware
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>>180952789
I'm going to /meg/. Fuck you
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that Kieran posting is getting creepy. posting best non-HoF Kieran dad
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did you guys noticed that this general started to get more alive after ME died?
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>>180953573
I kind of feel bad for /meg/. They had a few months in the sun and now they're barely active at all, MEA and the aftermath were just that much of a disaster.
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>>180953573
I have no interest in the ME franchise at all, but it makes me sad for people who were expecting it to revitalize the fandom.

I'm just here to mooch the new DA comics, honestly, but it's fun to do a little anon lore discussion away from r/dragonage and the nuBSN where people aren't such ragingly aggro pedants.
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>>180953946
What if that'll be a cautionary tale for us...
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>>180954364
please, tell me what the colour coding is for.
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>>180953946
That guy from Shittaku who often guesses things right said there are no plans for singleplayer DLCs and that the Montreal team has been gutted. The only thing that could keep /meg/ afloat are the books and the comics, which surprisingly are still being released.

>mfw DA is getting a lot of content, people are actually waiting and asking for a sequel, while EA's previous golden child bit the dust

Who would have imagined such a thing after DA2?
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>>180953530
I love that fanart! Why is he holding so many maps?

>>180954403
Daddy!
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>>180954532
He said he wasn't 100% sure about the DLC thing but that he wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't any.
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>>180954403
I hope not. With any luck DA won't be handed off to a third-rate team and held together with pandering and prayers.

>>180954525
Seconding, what's that about?
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>>180954650
Artist wanted to shower him in maps, common sentiment I share as well

> Daddy
He won't love you, no matter how hard you try child.
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>>180954525
Lore tidbits from certain characters, and character moments I wanted to find again... uhhh... for reference.
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>>180953573
That's because Jaal loving hambeasts are spamming elf lore here now, they literally said that earlier in the thread.
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>>180954819
I just found out that you can gift Loghain and he is very fond of maps!
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>>180955391
I'm seriously wondering about your child-like enthusiasm. ...Is it shitposting? English not the first language? Genuine autism? Are you involving me in dd/lg play?
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>>180955674
At least one of our regular posters has autism.
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>>180955674
That's a nice comic.
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>>180954819
>He won't love you, no matter how hard you try child.
Todd Howard is so cruel...
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>>180955674
He's autistic and easy to copy, which spamanon used to shitpost as him.
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>>180954819
>Loghain and Anora used to go to Denerim together when she was little
>she braided his hair and he learned how to braid hers
>he turned bloody stories of the battles he fought in stories suitable for a child
>sneaked cookies in cabinet meetings for her
>interrupted conversations to tend to her bruised knees

Loghain best dad of Ferelden.
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>>180956050
So what if they are? 1 in 68 people minimum are on the spectrum. 4chan basically exists because there are enough autistic people in the world to have multiple people in different time zones obsess over the topic of each general and keep it active. Thank goodness for autistics who maintain shit, so I can come back and shitpost whenever I get a wild hair.
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>>180955674
I just love the exclamation mark! I don't always use it though anon.
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>>180956879
Wild hair? Also, that's a cute drawing! I'm curious about the context, though. Why does he have a goose on his head?
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Don't make a kieran thread.
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>>180956879
They mentioned autism, so I was just saying that is a possibility.
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please do make a kieran thread, he deserves one
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>>180958884
>>180958884
>>180958884
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>>180957206
There is a nest of gooses on top of Bioware's Edmonton roof. The eggs hatched a few months ago and Bioware made cool Dragon Age shirts with puns about them. One was about Solas and his "egg head".
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