/ssg/ - Starsector General

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What's your vanilla shipfu?
Picture related is mine

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>>175295139
The Hammer of the Ludd.

BTW What are you spec your carrier commanders?
>3 Carriers skills are mandatory
>speed skill
then what?
>missile for missile carrier like mora or dover
or range for non missile like Heron
Anything else?

>>175295138
It needs Steam

Anyone know what properties to change in the settings file to stop enemies from retreating?

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>>175295139
A U R O R A

>inb4 autist says it's asymmetrical

>>175295141
For the others I go combat endurance, missile specialization, helmsmanship, and gunnery implants.

>>175295138
Ship painter when? Just add overlays to the damn sprites with an alpha map already so we can paint them.

>>175295142
When it's finished

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>>175295143

>a single Drover, a destroyer sized vessel, is so overpowered it can eat entire fleets of frigates alive except for tritech

I'm trying to run a fun little cluster of frigates but christ, lashers suck such immense dick now and virtually every situation could be 999x faster/easier just by using a Drover with two talon wings.

>>175295145
Not really wrong. You'd probably get the dregs of humanity for a frontier mission.

>>175295149
Get a Phaeton, you can fit the survey sensor hullmod AND the improvised flight decks with talons. Great ship for early exploration.

>>175295151

>improvised flight decks
Never seen these once

>>175295149
carriers are retarded OP right now because fighters are infinite troops that are strong against basically everything else.
Also, what is up with trading? its so difficult to find out where certain goods are produced, only missions seem to give any payout at all and usually its just best to sit at massive markets and buy the stuff you need of the black market and give that in.
Theres no incentive to ever trade normally, or even find trading routes where you buy volatiles from one place and drop them at another because tariffs are through the fucking roof.

I hope alex takes a lesson out of trading from games like port royale 2, trading was really fun in that game, along with making trading fleets and routes that made real profits.

Why do people say Devastators are good PD? They're way too damn slow.

They are, however, excellent shotguns.

>>175295153

Trading seems broken at the moment because there doesn't seem to be any point in selling to the legit markets when you can always sell to black markets at ZERO consequences.

The #1 change to this game that needs to be made is to remove the stupid capture the flag mini-game that keeps popping up in battle, it's so shoe-horned in it's unreal.

>>175295144
What good is symmetry in space anyway? I have to say I fucking love asymmetrical ships.

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Soon (tm)

>>175295156
Centre of mass doesn't stop existing in space.

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lol

>>175295144
It's not that it's asymmetrical, it's that it looks like a glove, and nothing like a spaceship.

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>>175295157
oh boy, 8.1 can't get here soon enough

>>175295157
yooooo

>>175295157
gib

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>>175295139
ez mode

>>175295157
I came

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>>175295157

Nigga wat?
Who the fuck is Tartiflette? A fucking ex-Front mission game dev or something?

He's turning diable into some ridiculous shit.

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where can i get this game?
its look soo good

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>>175295167
There's mega in the previous thread, I think.

>>175295157
WHY

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>>175295168
>that skull

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>>175295169

WHY NOT

IT'S A FUCKIN SPACE MECH.

SOMETHING LIKE 60% OF DIABLES SHIPS ARE EITHRE MINI OR GIANT ROBOTS NIGGA.

DON'T ASK QUESTIONS. JUST GRAB A SWORD. NIGGAS NEED CUTTIN'

>>175295160
then you're actually saying it looks objectively good because the human hand has proportions matching the golden ratio

>>175295170
Which one?

>>175295172
I'm actually saying that it needs a rework, as you literally can't tell what's what on the ship. It's like it's made by some blind retarded engineer who only got his job because his father was a Tri-Tachyon CEO.

>>175295171
rule of cool ftw

>>175295157
The only thing I really take issue with is that it's an actual blade and not a tiny, high-intensity beam lance. I guess glorious nippon steel is better against shields though.

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>>175295174
After running your post through my Pre-Collapse Datacore, it firmly concluded that YOU are, in fact, the blind retard.

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>>175295175

Ay, when you've got good enough armor, a sword will kill a man just as well as a bullet.


>>175295176
>Frost Wanzer variant with high-frequency MGS ninjasteel blade
>Another with what amounts to an open Flux Vent, fitted to a highflow valve & a high-pressure nozzle
>FLUX Blade Wanzers.


I need this.

>>175295174
it looks asymmetrically balanced. the modules are not equal, but their hypothetical center of gravities are, and that's what makes it more aesthetic than a completely symmetrical design because it needs actual work to make properly.

the design just makes you THINK of the function/center of gravity/relative weight of the modules if you want to make sense of instead of the mere form of it. even the bridge is slightly off bore, like it was meticulously placed just to the left by some cutting edge AI without regard for human eyes. it's so brutally efficient it conveys the ethos of tri-tach perfectly.

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>>175295157
lol

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>>175295139

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>>175295139
are kitbashes allowed here

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>jump into system
>'price info updated'
>no fucking way to check the updated price

HOW? WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS EVEN MEAN

Alright lads, I'm taking a break until 8.1 and mods come out, don't wanna burn myself out before the good stuff comes. If you see me here again, call my wife and she'll come pick me up.

>>175295182
Why wouldn't they be?

>>175295185
he was asking for our vanilla shipfus

>>175295183
your mere presence causes the system-wide prices to simultaneously shift, as a consequence of the hyperspace jump's relativistic effects on causality

>>175295181
>that vintage apogee with shit weapon mounts

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Special sneak peak of last mobile suit for now before I start on gundams

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>>175295187

>>175295183

Go into your Intel Panel, there should be information regarding prices.

>>175295191

Nothing concrete, it just says 'prices updated' but there's no listing of the updated prices anywhere.

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>>175295183
Yes there is. Opening the intel will let you see what prices/(goods) were updated. Opening the general prices tab and plotting it into the map (there should be a small map on the intel, pressing the "map" tab on top of it will help) will let you see prices across the sector, which are delayed based on your last visits there.

Hopefully in the future tariffs get smaller and the game engine can predict shipping lanes, so that pirates can camp them. As of now there should be at least some skills that net you extra supplies and fuel for non-profit/loss trades.

Out of instance friendly satellites and other shit for updating prices on 2d delay when

just who the hell sells apogees? do they even exist on this version anymore?

also this game needs sensor ships now

>>175295194
I've seen only one in my 55 levels of gameplay, and it was in Hybrasil on Tri-Tachyon military base.

>>175295194
Does Omen count as a sensor ship?

>Go back to 7.2a for awhile
>Start as Diable
>Draft gets fucked by missiles
>Grint my way up to a Mantis
>Mount double Antimatter bladers, Safety Override & 2 Reliant HMGs+Heavy Mining Laser

>Start shitting on everything to some crazy ass zone of enders like song.
>430km/s bursts of speed.
>Average 230+
>So much Flux Dissapation my shields are on constantly. even with AM blaster pop offs.

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>>175295193

GOOD MAN.

We illicit organ traders now!

Fighters seem too good because :
>Alex drastically buffed fighters but didn't change the amount of point defense AI ships typically have. Laser/Flak boats for example burn fighters to ash
>AI ships don't typically use hull mods that make dealing with enemy fighters easier. You won't see advanced turret gyros, resistant flux conduits, or a fighter hanger using wasp drones very often
>The AI just isn't good and aggressive enough to deal with carriers. The AI is great at exploiting openings but is complete dog shit at creating them. They will basically let you park your carriers at the rear of the frontline and will do very little to pressure them

>>175295198
I wish I could haul slaves. Is there really no slavery in a shitty god-forsaken sector?

>>175295199
Yeah, it basically comes to the fact that ship variants remained the same. Give pirates 2-3 dedicated PD ships per fleet, and it'll be a lot harder to swarm them, especially early on.

>>175295201
Also, pirates lost their fucktons of Talons for some reason. That would help them to kill player fleets early.

I was thinking about playing Starsector. Is it worth it to pirate the game now, or is there any update coming up soon?

>>175295145
I didn't even think about this until now. But if you go with the current demographics and trends, only one out of fifty or so people should be white by the space age so he still needs to work on that diversity.

>>175295203
The major update just released.

>>175295203
>or is there any update coming up soon?
If lucky we'll have another content update before Christmas.

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>>175295194
I see them for sale a lot at the League capitol in the Thule system.

>>175295193
Yeah, legit trading is borked until there's a way to lower the tariffs. Not to mention the tool tip prices are wrong anyways.

>>175295200
The Hegemony, Sindrian Diktat, and Luddic Church would have none of that shit.
Tri-Tachyon is unscrupulous enough but it already has corporate slavery and wouldn't have much use for literal slaves considering their focus on advancing and automating everything.

Your viable options for slavery would be Pirates, Independents, the Luddic Path, and the Persean League.

>>175295208
Perseans should really have some slaver polity planet just to show that they're not all good guys.

>>175295208
the persean leage is mostly a bunch of independents that say fuck your shit hegemony and gone allied againts them, seem to have a hands off aproach for internal matters, even for domain standards, and the domain starts to sound rather opressive

so yeah could happen in CERTAIN worlds

Any way to turn off this commission crap?
I want to buy ships from more than 3 market goddamnit.

>>175295145
do what the gumdum franchise has been doing for the past 30 years - draw any kind of character you want but give them diverse NAMES

example - jap first name, yurpeen last name

problem solved
people these days literally cant even get past appearances, though they are important arent they

What's the points of marines now? I haven't seen any use for them since the update

>>175295155
>The #1 change to this game that needs to be made is to remove the stupid capture the flag mini-game that keeps popping up in battle
What? I've never seen anything like that.

>>175295194
Check the two military level independent ports. They tend to get odd inventory.

>>175295203
>is there any update coming up soon
Likely no. But you should buy it anyways. Even if the dev keels over and dies tomorrow, there is enough game for it to be worth the 10 USD.

>ppl jsut now realizing fighters are good.

Nigga, you could have dozens and dozens of wings following you with only a single carrier deployed. NOTHING stood a fucking chance

>>175295144
asymms are dum

>>175295214
>What? I've never seen anything like that.

You've never seen the stupid fucking 'capture points' shit in combat?

>>175295215
You had to pay a lot of supplies for them though.

Do you think if gates were reopened Domain would slap everyone's shit? Imagine how advanced their ships would be if even Tri-Tachyon is basically only one of its megacorps.

>>175295215
"fighters were bad because you couldnt put officers in them!"

>>175295219
The domain would kick everyone's shit in no doubt... if it's still a thing

>>175295220
To be fair +25% bomb/missile damage is fucking huge.

The game keeps freezing even if I update java. The previous version didn't have this problem ;_;

>>175295210
>>175295209
If you read the flavor text, there is one Persean planet that enacted Jim Crow esque laws toward Luddic believers and basically turned them into a slave race working on plantations and factories or being used as fodder in the military until the rebelled
When the Luddic Church sent the knights in to assist their faithful, the Persean League stepped in to defend the current government of a planet.

The Persean League doesn't really care what you do on your own planet as long as you continue to contribute to their military and coffers.

>>175295221
>yfw the domain shut down the gates intentionally due to reapers on steroids invading their territory

I want Luddic Knights to be like old Brotherhood of Steel/

Haven't played in like 8 months. I had to use mods to make it fun after playing vanilla for awhile.

Has he updated vanilla more to be more standalone?

Lad we have a board called videogame generals for a reason

>>175295228
n-nyaaaaaa

>>175295228
>being this new

>>175295217
those are bonuses, and also i DID beat the shit out bigger fleet without them so there
not really needed

>>175295219
after 200+ years if they ever come back they will have battleships that make the paragon a rustbucket, or a battlecarrier with that much tech

but i bet they are gonna be a thing on release version

>>175295224
Nah, that planet didn't pay the League dues after the rebellion was over. You can join the League, but you can't leave. So they asked for help and the Knights were sent to protect them, they failed.

>>175295228
"Generals"—long-term, recurring threads about a specific game—should be posted in /vg/. This is not to say threads about specific games cannot be created on /v/, just that long-term, recurring threads belong in /vg/.

Literal retard

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>>175295219
>>175295225
>>175295221

I'm almost certain that some AI takeover happened and the gates were closed in desperation.

>>175295228
>going to a thread about a game you're not interested in just to bitch about it
>bitching about genuine video game discussion on /v/
Yeah, go create some LOL threads and post cropped porn there. Muh video game culture, amirite, guise?

apparently the easiest way to get an appoge is to blunder on a pirate salvager

got 2 that way

>>175295228
"Lad" please go shove an entire >>175295181
up your ass.

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>>175295182
would you post this ship please

I really want your custom rime and I wouldn't feel right using your sprite to make my own but I will if I have to.

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So i got my first dominator; its nice that Tri-jews don't really bother you for buying black market stuff in Hybrasil. Any suggestions on how to kit this puppy out?

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>>175295144

Mah Aurorabro

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>>175295239
EVERY THREAD UNTIL YOU LIKE IT

You can also swap annihilator or all of them for reapers if you want to take on onslaught, for example.

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Get it while it's hot :)

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Have these threads taken the place of the space game generals that were here before?

>>175295239
For yourself or the AI?
Anyway use the large mounts and missiles for damage and the rest for point defense. Acts like a big fat turret.

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This fleet is more effective than I thought it would be

Need better missiles though. Everything's got salamanders or black caps and they don't seem all that great. Harpoons maybe?

>>175295243
What's that game?

>>175295238
sure, should I make a post in the forum with all the other stuffs?
https://mega.nz/#!A4NGBIZA!x1frC729hbP8B1B54mLPBYaxJyb6sLN1lSLV-oGRSwo

>>175295245
AI is very good at using Harpoons and Sabots.

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>>175295242
I can into HTML as well

>>175295242
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>posts today
>get banned retroactively
4chan can't handle dank memes

Guys, best ballistic small PD defense out of all the mods from 7.2a?

>>175295182
I've always wanted to try and mod a Rime to get rid of the cargo hold and make sure it has two Med missile hard points on it (maybe more). That way I can have a dedicated Thrush platform.

>>175295252
Blackrock small yellow laser.

>>175295182
What's a kitbash

>>175295233
>title has standard /xg/ format for generals
>links to previous thread in it
>people continuing conversations from previous thread
At least change the thread name

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Egh, the others are mediocre, I like your Rime and I guess this one is alright.

I wouldn't post them it I made them but I still wanted them. You wouldn't happen to have that other Rime anon posted in the other thread? The red one you replied to saying your rime kitbash was better? I want that one too if you have it.

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>>175295157

>>175295257
meant to quote
>>175295247

>>175295256
/vg/ is for threads that last for months and years, not for your new flavor of the month

you get recurring threads when a new popular game gets released, you get recurring threads when a popular game gets a major feature update, but these threads do not last for long so they should be kept on /v/

>>175295256
i agree, faggots talking about video games need to get out of /v/ - Video Games

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>>175295246
http://store.steampowered.com/app/565490

Will I enjoy this game if I love FTL?

>>175295253
The two med hardpoints are universals, so go crazy with the Trush'es
>>175295255
A ship made using bits of other ship's sprites
>>175295257
No, sorry, red is reserved for diable ships, I could get you a green one tho

>>175295263
Other than space ships and simple graphics there is no correlation.

>>175295263
Did you enjoy mount&blade ?

>>175295263
Why do people think FTL when they see this?

SS+ just updated

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>>175295255
You take shit from different model kits and bash them together to make something new.

>>175295254

Nigga that's energy, I said Ballistic. I know the Argus is bretty gud.

>>175295268
That's not even possible. Fuck off

if i buy now, will i get a steam code when it gets on there?

>>175295272
>if*
Probably yes, dev's a cool guy. Eh kills aleins and doesnt afraid of anything.

>>175295272
I don't think it'll ever go on steam

>>175295272
99% yes

other developers have done the same thing when they migrated to steam platform

>>175295272
Would be a pretty dick move to ask the people who made your game possible to buy it again.

>>175295272
>implying we get release version before the invention of FTL and colonization of Pluto

>>175295272
literally why does it matter when you get just add any game on steam. except if you do it the other way around you can't play your game without steam.

steam a shit

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>lose gigantic battle
>lose all combat ships
>lose dignity
>lose practically all supplies and fuel
>only thing left is thousand crew members
>personnels capacity under 200

Time to draw straws, boys.

>>175295278
Steam is just so much more convenient since it automatically keeps everything up to date for you all in one place.

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>>175295279
>not stabilizing the orbit of cryopods for 100 days
>not getting back to inhabited space for the largest luxury passenger carrier available
>not buying ALL the Voltrunean lobsters on the market
>not returning to your men, opening the cyopods, and taking them on a luxury cruise
>not hauling them to best tropical beaches of Eventide, and leaving them enough money to live their lives in peace

>>175295279
You can put them in pods, stabilise orbit and then get back there within 100 days to save them. If you aren't a dick, that is.

>>175295281
>>175295282
Game should really have some penalties for jettisoning people.

>>175295278
Now imagine if Steam or a similar service didn't exist and you had to keep up with every single game out there individually. Doesn't that just sound like fun?

>>175295279
Don't worry, they'll be safely jettisoned in cryo pods, just hope it isn't the pirates that picks them up.

>>175295281
Stabilizing takes supplies, which I didn't have.

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How bad of an idea is this?

>>175295138

Where can I download this variant?

>>175295287
Why would you want burst pd on a hardpoint?

>>175295287
what the fuck

>>175295288
The pic itself! It's just a skin and adding it is straightfoward

>>175295287
DELET THIS

>>175295284
>>175295280
most of the games i have that have plenty of replay value are also heavily modded, and i end up turning auto update off because the mods won't work anyway. and seriously, subscribing to the game's newsletter isn't that hard. certainly not worth having your games drm locked.

i get the sunk cost feeling when you have to get ALL your games on steam because you already started buying them on there and end up logging into steam anyway. then i realized i was being silly and could just not buy steam games. devs get more money too by bypassing steam entirely fyi.

Gachimuchi mod update when?

>>175295293
>devs get more money too by bypassing steam entirely fyi.
just read that again and think of how stupid you sound

>>175295138
I love this game but this isn't /vg/, dumbass.

>>175295287
First of all, if it's made to kill fighters, front-faced harpoint won't do shit against talons who will shove a shitton of their swarmers up your tailpipe. Don't even think injector + thrusters will save you when you only have front shields. Even then, why not use the large energy PD system? It has enough damage to kill some frigs on its own.

Second, Ion pulser is not great against shielded fighters even when it's placed on a turret harpdoint, and you placed it in the front.

Cant wait for this viral marketing to end

>>175295297
D Sunder doesn't have a large slot.

>>175295298
>100 IPs per thread
>most of the posters are actually discussing the game
>MUH SHILLS
Heh, kid.

>>175295300
>100 IPs per thread
anon are you ok?

>>175295295
steam takes a 30% cut from steam store sales, versus none from independent sales. yeah, they do get help with exposure, so i feel that it's fair that they get a cut. but it's also my prerogative to bypass steam and buy straight from the dev because i contribute more money to a game i like vs. a service that i'm ambivalent to.

>>175295298
Shouldn't you be in one of the five (5) Persona threads?

>>175295301
Screenshot my post and return where there's at least 400 posts, or better yet, search the archives where all of the threads had 100+ IPs.

>>175295300
>Thread up every hour on the hour
>For a game no one new existed last week

Uh huh. How much do they pay you?

>>175295280
Yeah it sure is convenient that Steam literally region locks games so that they can price gouge people in the US while charging russians 1/5th of the price.

>>175295305
The game existed since 2011, the new update came recently. If you think it's shills, just hide and ignore, faggot.

>>175295138
How's the learning curve in this game?

>>175295291

Alright, thanks.

Is there a similar variant for the Maelstrom?

>>175295302
I know steam takes a cut because that's how they stay in business but the way you said it sounded like devs are better off not using steam

>>175295308
Sort of steep, but you can have fun from the start.

>>175295298
You know what. If viral marketing means interesting and coherent discussion about actual video games, those marketers are honest-to-god welcome here.

>>175295309
Not that I know of. The author first posted it in a /vg/ thread.

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>>175295300
>>175295304
Baited.
Update on the salvage and survey fleet. The Hyperion is really nice, every fight isn't a nail biter now though i'm worried that it'll make me complacent. Playing on iron man, red beacon coming up soon.

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>>175295305
>Uh huh.

>>175295314
Why are you not using 4 salvage rigs for maximum bonus?

Is ORA stuff fun to fight against/with? Debating on whether to use it on my playthrough.

>>175295314
>worried about losses
>not just running a derelict zombie fleet

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Why IPs are determining thread quality?

>>175295316
I do, just did an organics sale so I dropped two to save a portion of resources, I could get rid of all four for that type of work but meh, you bump into pirates often enough to justify salvage rigs on cargo runs.

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>>175295314
How not to get swarmed:
1. choose faraway jump-point
2. go dark
3. realise when you point mouse at enemy fleet it shows their detection range

>>175295319
What did Domain even think about when they created that ship?

>>175295318
I don't like spending skill points on the (D) related skills, there are more useful skills. I will do that type of character in the future though, probably.

> use asymetrical design irl
> enemy realizes how big a retard you are and attacks your ship on a vector that isnt symmetrically defended on all side because "muh artistic design"

>>175295306
russian gdp per capita is also 1/5th that of us, so relative to peoples' purchasing power their "cost" is proportionate. region lock is still super annoying when i move places tho. but if you didn't have region lock only people from north america and europe could afford games while they'd be expensive relative to everyone else's income.

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>>175295322
I don't know man

>>175295322
FUCK FIGHTERS

really, they made that because rebels used fighter spam, since actual military ships arent easy to get

>>175295323
You don't know what you're talking about.

>>175295324
I mean, if it's really long distances (and space battles would probably feature long distances), it doesn't matter that much. You just mount a big cannon on the front and smaller cannons on the turrets, and shoot the fags.

>>175295325
Russian GDP is irrelevant, the seller is literally taking less money for the same game and service depending on the customer. Furthermore, they are directly inconveniencing customers to maintain this greedy practice.

>>175295321
Aye, you figure that out pretty quick. The apogee sensors are really great for that style of play to, you'll see shit coming way before it sees you.

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>salvage 3 Hammerheads
HAMMER TIME

>>175295330
Don't like their service? Launch an alternative then. Isn't capitalism great?

>>175295281
why do cats lol

We should have (D) officers

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Here's just the edited .class file to crack the game. But you didn't get it from me.
https://my.mixtape.moe/itrold.class

>>175295328
I dont think I know what you're talking about.

>>175295324
this is why tanks have guns only facing one side right? oh no wait, because you just turn and putting a 50% cheaper gun on the back and front is a waste of resources.

>>175295330
it's actually egalitarian because it provides games at a reasonable price for everyone. but it'll only work if rich people play more than poor people.

>>175295337
a) You really don't need any Combat skills.
b) With the Industry skills maxed out, (D) ships become arguably better than their normal counter-parts due to the immense reduction in cost. I'm running a slightly weaker Medusa at the cost of a normal frigate.

>>175295335
>(d) officers take up less of your officer slots
>(d) standing for "damaged goods" and they either have trauma or various physical disabilities
>you will never have a hueg cripple harem that synergistically works well together, such as your eyepatch qt doing carrier duty

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>just want to peacefully explore the sector
>can't find pic related

>>175295340
>(D) officers change their personality on the fly dramatically, making them unpredictable

yes

>>175295338
>tanks are the same as space warships

>>175295341
Too bad every probe is guarded by space metal boxes.

>>175295339
Cost reduction doesn't equal combat performance. You fleet size affects the size of pirate fleets you encounter so you're much more likely to have unfavorable odds when using a larger fleet, especially when it's mostly degraded and you have no combat skills. How far into your iron man campaign are you? Have you wiped yet? I'm wondering because I haven't done iron man (D) fleet yet.

>go to system for a round of low level bounties
>search around to top up on supplies/fuel and small wAIfu fleets since yellow beacon
>come across derelict Phaeton
>expect fuel, get Class V Survey
The money keeps on flowing, when I think I dumped everything into fleet resources I just keep getting more.

>>175295343
actually more relevant than you might think because starsector is 2d

>>175295341
Apogee seems like a fun solo ship. Might need a Phaeton and Buffalo for deep exploration but a really nice ship that has more use with Industry.

>Large Missile and Energy for self defense
>can throw on Converted Hanger for a fighter escort

>>175295322
Aside from lore reasons, from a military engineering point of view a ball filled and coated with equipment is the most efficient form for three dimensional space fighting, just like needle-like ships are most efficient and safe for interstellar travel as we can currently fathom it.

But since the game has FTL travel, inertialess sub-FTL travel and things like ships shooting machine guns at each other while traveling at astronomical speeds, I dunno.

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>>175295345
The game is boring when it's easy and you highly overestimate the impact of (D) mods that have their effect halved, it's almost not even there unless it's Degraded Engines. What makes this playstyle fun is that you don't have to worry about losses as long as you win the fight, so the only thing you have to worry about is actually winning the fight at any cost. Anything you lose you can just bring right back, or use any of the dozen extra ships you've salvaged. There has only really been one moment where I thought I might lose and that was against a pirate fleet of two Moras with several destroyers and frigates while the best thing I had was my flagship Hammer. I constantly take on significantly bigger fleets than mine and come out without a single loss which makes it all the more satisfying knowing you were doing it in sub-optimal ships and no combat skills.

I really wish the mod makers would list the full breadth of their weaponry offered.

I fucking hate crawling through RNG markets. Fuck me.

>>175295350
It's boring when it's easy. You get free ships so losses are inconsequential. Anon...

Is a salvage only pirate run fun?

>>175295352
If you lose a fight the game is over, anyone who says otherwise is a casual.

>>175295350
My first campaign for .8 was full industrial non-iron man. I'm not saying it isn't fun or potentially useful, I'm just saying that for a hardcore iron man campaign, it's to unreliable.

>>175295351
Nexerelin can't come soon enough. Can't wait for Prism Freeport and all its awesome high-level merchandise.

>>175295355
Why would you need a run to be reliable? Where's the fun in knowing you are most likely going to win?

>>175295348
its not very powerfull though

im struggling to find a good config for it

it seems like all shields are unbreakable with it

>>175295341
>tfw they got rid of the sensor drones

>>175295356
we're probably going to be waiting like a month. nexerelin and many of the other mods can't be updated until Alex releases 0.8.1

some issue with the current release is keeping the modders from getting their mods playable.

>>175295357
For an iron man run, i'm going full endgame mode and plan on fighting tri kikes and hegemony. Stashing fleet ships on the level of cruisers now so it'll be coming some what soon.

>>175295353
you mean no market buying? no market ship buying at least is a good way to make a de facto "hard mode". a lot of difficulty potential is lost because you often earn enough money to get better ships than anyone before having to fight them. a good gameplay principle is that you need to fight units before you are rewarded by getting to use those units.

I don't understand why some ships can be restored and lose the D part of their name entirely, where as others remain D and only lose their D Mods, and still have worse stats than a fresh hull.
It even costs the same to restore them to the still D'd state as it does totally clearing it, and you can restore them over and over for no visible change.

>>175295361
I do that without any trouble. I've already taken on battlecruisers while not even having a cruiser in my own fleet.

>>175295363
Latter ones are obsolete (D)-versions from earlier game version, they should get axed since every ship can be a (D)-version

>>175295363
There are actual (D) ship variants, and then there are regular ships that receive (D) mods from combat damage. You can tell by the description.

>>175295365
>>175295366

Oh, thats a bit janky. I imagine that will be changed soon, but is annoying at the moment.
At least now I know what to look for to avoid disappointment.

>>175295358
I've tried using Squall with a Tachyon Lance, not good for any fight that lasts longer than its capacity. If the 2 front small energy hardpoints were hybrid or universal that could solve its anti-shield issue. But that'd be too good and I'd run with MIRVs instead.

>>175295367
Yeah it really seems like an oversight.

>>175295364
Aye likewise, I took out an onslaught with my medusa earlier in the game, it's not that hard. I want to engage war fleets and a 30 ship D fleet ain't gonna cut it unless i've recovered some serious shit.

>>175295370
Sure it is, you have better fleet composition and officers.

>>175295368
mayve i should downgrade to a graviton?
it would do something against shields, aint?

Jesus christ the sound of the Hephaestus Assault Gun is the stuff of nightmares.

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>>175295157

>>175295287

what the fuck

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>>175295247
I think you can drop the landing bay, this thing doesn't need it.

Either that or seriously tone down it's maneuverability and firepower potential.

>>175295285
>they join up with pirates to hunt you down

>>175295373
its the slound of hulls ripping
wish the dominator guns where a bit closer then if get ripping good

>finish tutorial
>get a message about RNG and piracy
>several seconds later get jumped by 3 groups of 3 or 4 pirate frigates and a destroyer or two

is this a coincidence or does it really know

>>175295379

i think the developer puts copies on torrent sites like this, i downloaded one before i ended up buying the game. after playing a while there would just be huge pirate fleets everywhere.

>>175295379
:^)
it's just there to scare you

>>175295371
I don't see how you could have a better fleet composition, faction war fleets are fully rounded. Do you mean taking abunch of carriers basically?

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After a very large battle, I finally understood the fleet mechanics. There is a good reason to keep hundreds of deployment point's worth of ships with me when going to big battles, because I can tell the CR ~ 0% ships to retreat and summon in new ships. Even the change piloted ship mechanic makes sense now.

And seems like that all those little groups of enemies will form into one big pile if you attack them.

>>175295382
They are rounded but not optimal, they also run stock variants only.

And the officer levels make a huge deal, not a lot of fleets out there with 10 level 20 officers.

>>175295197
this build kicks ass anything to replace the anitmatter blasters with that has more ammo?

>>175295385
Aye, i've got officers lined up for it, leveling up my last two officers now. How far into your iron man campaign are you?

>>175295372
On the medium energy slots? It'll build soft flux so it'll mostly help on ships without good dissipation or shield efficiency (low-tech/pirates) and isn't too taxing. You could also run Autopulse on big energy with extended magazines since that's a good all rounder but I forget how well the Apogee manages flux.

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>>175295157

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Don't drink and shoot

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>>175295390

>>175295390
I swear one time I had a carrier get blown up by its own Khopesh wings.

Is 120 the hard limit on fleet size? Just got my onslaught and now all of a sudden I can't field all my ships. It's gay as hell.

>>175295376
noted, I'll reduce its OPs (so you can't have heavy weapons and fighters at the same time) and mobility, but really the cruiser was meant to be solo/custom/capital/boss ship so the enhanced performance was intended

>>175295393
go to settings and increase battle size

>>175295393
check out settings

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>>175295390
that's about to be a clean burning hell I tell ya hwat

>>175295390
Do you think Dominator captains say when some faggot launches reapers at their backside? I'm sure there should be something in Hegemony combat manual for that.

>>175295384
>no memory how to code
did he died

>>175295399
He said "fuck it" and there are now source files on forum, though 2 guys said they could try to port it to 0.8(.1).

Is there a way to improve D ships without mods in 0.8?

This always triggered me, especially with my fav frigate Scarab.
They're pain in the dick to get without defects.

>>175295401
You can restore them at the refit screen at stations.

>>175295401
yeah. go to any market, then go to the refit screen.

in the bottom left area should be a button that says "restore". you can pay a hefty sum to have the d mods removed from the ship

>>175295401

Yeah, go something like 6-9 points deep into the salvage tree.

>go through hyperspace storm
>-70 supplies/day

Has Alex said anything about 0.8.1?

>we finally got forced to /vg/

so be it

MODS
SCY exploration and survey fleet will be fun.

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>moved
that's why you don't make the OP "starsector general"

I guess that's it folks.

rip starsector threads I guess

>Bunch of cancerous fuckboys piss and moan about a healthy discussion thread
>We get forced to the cancer containment board

Mods can go suck a dick.
Niggers need to prune all those bullshit waifu-circle jerk, console war faggot ass threads shitting up /v/

>>175295402
>>175295403
>>175295404

There are permanent D hulls that always have worse stats, even when all the D Mods have been removed via restoration.

>>175295663
>>175295682
>>175295695
you can make more threads on /v/, just don't name it /ssg/ starsector general like a retard.

the OP was literally asking for this to happen

guess we're on /vg/ now, we're in the same league as league of legends threads

>>175295695
Fucking right. Do we need 7 Persona threads? I'm saying this as a fan too, fuck.

So this won't last a week now.

>>175295812
I wonder how long will it be until somebody makes a thread on /v/ because this one was moved here

>>175295848
or the minimum of 5 dark souls threads that are up at all times

goddamn mods

>name it a general
>post it on /v/
>get hit
And this is how OP was a faggot again.

Just grab a phase ship and post a "stealth space game" thread on /v/

>have no burst PDs, nor have I even seen one
>want some for the backs of a few of my ships
>hostile with TT

>decide to go on TT murder spree to steal some burst PDs
>travel to each planet they have a base in, wipe out every fleet I can find in the map, then go to the next
>every TT world is now extinct of fleets (besides what respawned behind me) and I've still not found a single burst PD

what the actual fuck

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Fucking retarded piece of shit OP. Why the fuck you have to call them generals? How fucking stupid one person can be? Now they will die in /vg/ and will be banned from /v/ because of some faggotron who can't make a proper thread without GENERAL in the name. Really hope you fucking die in a fire you retarded fuck.

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Like an inbred population, we are now doomed to dwindle in disgrace.

>>175296037
at least wait for this thread to die off first. there's no reason we can't have starsector threads on /v/, but OP made a mistake.

and for christs sake, whoever makes the next /v/ thread, don't have /ssg/ or general in the name at all. super simple stuff

>>175296259
Fucking retards will fuck this up, just you wait. /v/ is beyond stupid.

Next time report the generalfag false fag OP and make a regular Star Sector thread instead.

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>>175295251
fuck the mods

what were the pics?

>>175296453
this

any idea where to find delerics of big ships?
other than the odd liner and a cruiser, slim pickinks so far

>>175296663
Beacon systems and in outer worlds.

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9935 [Thread-4] INFO com.fs.graphics.TextureLoader - Cleaned buffer for texture graphics/particleline32sq.png (using cast)
9955 [Thread-4] ERROR com.fs.starfarer.combat.CombatMain - java.lang.NullPointerException
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at com.fs.starfarer.campaign.accidents.A.super(Unknown Source)
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at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

huh

>>175296259
Yeah, just make the thread about something, even if its just a bait post. Thats what all the other endless turdslurping threads do.

>odyssey
>paragon
>aurora
>apogee

damn, these ships are all great

>>175296125
bigger REDACTED fleets drop a ton of burst PDs

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Post fleets

My bounty hunter save is starting to take off, I want to get my hands on an Aurora again.

>>175297724
>apogee
>aurora
as far as i know you got a better chance getting it from pirate salvagers/prospectors than finding one of them on the market

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>>175297840
Amazon exploration ship

>>175297993
>level 1
>apogee

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>>175297840

not pictured bunch of tankers/small freighters

also: that sweet apogee using 6.4 supplies per month

>>175298080
>cheats
I won't spend time with getting this ship if I can spend it on exploring.

>>175298124
What on earth is that blobby ship with the blue detail

whats a good loadout for an explorer apogee in 7.2a?

>>175297993
>That CR
what happened?

>>175298124
Nice missile boat

>>175298256
blobby blue ship??

>>175298468
>cheats
I just spawned myself an apogee to do some climatic exploration mmkay

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>>175298319
>explorer
>7.2a

>>175297832

Where are they located?
I've seen a few marked systems, but it's always just one or two little fighter guys.

>>175298619
Look for red/orange warningbeacon, make sure to come unprepared

>>175298319
>exploring the half dozen systems
>no even rewarded/paid for doing so

Literally no reason to do exploration in 7.2a

>>175298256

You mean the top left ship?
That's an Odyssey.
Basically like an Eagle with worse tackle ability but more slots for Tacticals and with a flight deck.

lel the version of Starsector 0.8a on kat is not cracked/activated so it'll crash regardless of the fixes you try to apply to it (64bit java, fiddling settings.json or vmsettings

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>>175299040
do it yourself takes literally a couple of minutes

>>175299040
There has been a working MEGA link on previous threads on /v/
>>175299001
You forgot dual autopulse lasers with HEF

>>175299040
>kat

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>>175299001
i fucking love the odyssey

>long range
>cools down easy
>lots of pd energy turrets
>built in fighter bay

con is: shitty directional shield

It's basically a "imma just chill over here while you melt" ship

>>175299001
No. Middle row, furthest to the right

Why are my weapons causing a net gain in my flux even though their flux/sec is lower than my flux dissipation?

>>175299774
It's the ugliest ship in the game.

>>175299774
tachions or lasers?

>>175295332
You got a download link for that portrait pack?

>>175300170
Tachyons

Two of them

thats 2249x2 burst damage, plus 1500x2 emp damage

>>175295358
plasma cannon

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>>175297840
Not shown: 7 Wolves, 1 Shade, 2 Tempests, 1 Prometheus, 3 Colossus, 1 Ox.

Why is the AI so damn stupid? I put 3 phase lances and safety overrides on a D lancer and simulate it in an easy matchup against an Enforcer, and the thing is too much of a goddamn pussy to go into lance range. Literally all you need to do is shoot it with the lances once and their flux is maxed.

>>175302001
Running plasma cannons on cruisers/destroyers is very impractical, especially on solo ships. Only REDACTED use them, and they have support frigs with a ton of lasers/ion.

>>175302046
D tsundere*

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Payday soon!

Where in Ludd's name can I find a Colossus to buy? I passed up the opportunity when I was poor, but now I have nearly three million credits burning a hole in my pocket and all I want is a ship to hold my fucking luggage.

I'd get an Atlas but then I'd have to get commission with someone and it's not worth the hassle.

>>175302742
Theyre kinda rare in my experience. Look at hegemony markets.

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>>175302373
>only 1 alpha core
Don't talk to me and my son or my son's son ever again until you get at least 12 per expedition. I bet you got it in yellow or orange system too, nerd.

>>175302742
I saw some in Nortia and Sindria, so I guess military and/or high-stability markets have them.

>>175303214
>I bet you got it in yellow or orange system too, nerd.

orange yeah

so hard to find the red ones

>>175297840
I had a Heron for a while and ditched it for a second Mora. Thing just died way too easily.

Is giving the AI fast ships a lost cause? Seems like it inevitably ends in them doing a retarded fucking kiting dance that involves nothing dying ever.

>>175305075
I find that they pilot wolves on an okay level.

How do I build a Medusa? Do I just slap lasers? I've been giving them heavy blasters but they do not seem to work that well. Or maybe the ai doesnt know how to use it properly

>>175303214
how big of a fleet is needed for those? atleast two capitals?
a battleship and a cruiser?

>>175305075
Give them something that can vent fast as fuck, the ai loves to vent flux all the time

>>175305245
yep, tac lasers are its thing, i pur atleast 2 sabots and 2 pulse lasers, you could try gravitons but i never used them on a medusa

>>175305260
You need at least 3-4 REALLY tanky ships, a lot of bombers, and a lot of PD fighters. The more burst damage you can dish out the better. Expect all your smaller ships to die if you don't manage them well. This is not an over-exaggeration.

>>175305448
damn, mayve i cna keep it contolled at 120 deployment battles?
that be 2 moras and 2 cruisers plus some frigs or destroyers

>>175305010
What kind of officer did you give it? My cautious one doesn't really die when I do bounties, oddly enough an Ion Beam is handy at disabling engines so its bombers can do its job better.

I replaced my Drover with a Heron and the +50% damage ship system is not half bad considering the Heron's speed to chase things.

>>175305612
Moras can tank, but you need something heavy to break the defence, which is gonna be all over the place. You'll know what I'm talking about when you deploy, trust me. Also, try to lure all the support fleets to far reaches of the system before engaging the station. They're retarded and will follow you even when you sustained burn there and back.

is there a way to speed up time faster/toggle?
i probably spend like 50% of my time playing just travelling, and its getting to the point where holding shift is hurting my little finger

>>175305798
Aggressive, then later Steady. Maybe my fighter composition was bad or the rest of my fleet is poorly balanced.