/sg/ Starsector general

>>175452036
mega where

wrong thread name

For anyone wanting to make their own ships, I recommend watching this
https://youtu.be/jxoNLP_6ok4

blackrock when
neuterino when
tiandong when
diablo when

>>175452121
What's wrong about it? Starsector is one word, so just take the s and put the g for general, done

>>175452219
I like to search generals by their general name, searching /sg/ doesn't even begin to narrow down the threads

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>>175452219
there's already an /sg/

>>175452173
Diable shouldn't be too far away

>>175452219
It's taken

>>175452284
i'm sure there is, but we can borrow it until we're dead again

>>175452284
>>175452347
There literally isn't

>>175452367
/sg/ is for Stalker General, there just isn't one up at the moment.
How new are you to /vg/?

post OP info like weapon guides

put mods in OP
put shitty basic guides/faqs in op

>>175452425
What does it matter? No one is going to enter /sg/ in the search field and be upset that there's 2 threads there. If someone is gonna search for the tag anyways.

>>175452219
/wowsg/, /lisg/, /hsg/, /tesg/, /csgog/, /nsunsg/, /ssg/, /ksg/, /vsg/, /rsg/, /hotsg/, /gsg/.
All of these contain sg in their names, ssg is already taken, literally any other name even remotely related to starsector would be better.

>>175452425
>implying anyone ever goes to stalker gens anymore
hownew.ru

what does it mean really when a ship is lowtech, midline or high tech?

>>175452545
It does matter because two generals are not supposed to have the same name. One will get deleted.

>>175452681
They don't have the same name though. Just the same tag

call it /starg/ :DDD

>>175452601
i don't care about /sg/ per se but literally anything other than /stsg/ would be better, unless it's equally as retarded with the inconsistent pseudo acronym

>>175452715
theres no reason for it to be /sg/ and not /stsg/ when /sg/ is taken and hard to search for.

Wouldn't it be nice if we could have a mod tell us if we could use the same tag as another general?

>>175452757
Unironically supporting this, it's unique.

>>175452715
Those are the rules.

>>175452764
Convenience is more important than satisfying your autism.

>>175452863
>Those are the rules.
Show me

Please respond how do I make more money it's a net-zero game when I do bounties, how do I do AI cores and salvaging and such?
Salvaging gives me a tiny bit of fuel and supplies.

>the start of the thread is just complaining about the tag
>the general won't even be here by next week
nice

>>175452764
Its convenient for other people you fucking autist, if I can look up stsg or any other name even 1 millionth of a second earlier than sg its objectively better.

>>175452927
You go after inner-sector bounties that don't require you to travel 200 light years.

>>175452982
All of them are really far away though. I always choose the closest.

>>175453013
You are aware of the fact that there are two kinds of bounties, right?

>start playing campaign
>get to part where you recover derelicts around tetra
>tetra is literally orbiting so fast I can't actually catch it even with max burn
what the fuck man
I painstakingly waited for it to pass to get into its orbit but I can literally reach one trailing derelict before it speeds away from me again

>>175452927
Lucrative salvaging = abandoned stations and domain probes etc floating around in distant systems. Ignore the debris fields. Recovering damaged ships is not profitable directly (i.e you cannot liquify them profitably though you can obviously use them instead of buying new ships).

AI cores come from the REDACTED enemies in distant systems with warning beacons. The beacons range from yellow (easy) to red (hard). These enemies can be farmed indefinitely and even used to hoard supplies and fuel because they drop so much.

I'm 100% sure this patch will see some major economical rebalancing either by the developer or a mod soon.

>>175452982
System wide faction bounties give garbage money and are only useful if you're completely broke.

>>175454664
Then stop complaining.

>>175454523
Ah I see, thank ye. I just bought the game and started a new game, should I grab a salvager or just stock up on crew and heavy machinery?

How do I downgrade to 0.7.2.a officially? All I can find in the official page is the 0.8 installer

anyone got a valid 8.0 code?

>>175452601
>>175452764
I nominate /secg/!

>>175454818
Get a torrent

>>175454738
Ignore the salvaging rigs for now. Get a mule or a shepherd for salvaging mods.

>>175454698
I'm not him, newfriend.

Is there a trick to finding red warning beacons or do I really have to wander around aimlessly?

>>175455239
> or do I really have to wander around aimlessly?

pretty much

>>175454738
And yeah you need some machinery and a shitload of crew for both surveying and salvaging. Your first goal after getting 2-4 combat frigates (for abandoned station defenses) should be a mule or other small freighter. I assume you already have a tanker. At some point you should be able to combine bounties and/or exploration missions with the other stuff for crazy money.

>>175455239
Combine the search with missions or other profitable activities, obviously youre gonna go broke real quick if you fly around with a whole fleet while making no money.

Why not /starsectorgeneral/?

/srsr/, /srsrg/ ?

>>175456719
kys

>>175457014
>kys
Did you come from /stalkergeneral/?

>>175455073
By salvaging mods do you mean the salvaging gandry mod? It's the only one k can find on the wiki

Wasn't /sfg/ starsector's once?

Salvage rigs are more economical than shepherds because they give +25% to salvage, but are defenceless
>>175454818
Look up on dev's blog

This thread isn't gonna make it through the next 3 days

>>175457468

How are their running costs though?

I think I figured it out. If you give a carrier escort, it will try to attack.

>>175457668
8.1 is coming up in a couple of days

>>175457769
3 supplies/month, exact same as shepherd's.

>>175453279
How in the fuck? Are you carrying 1000000 ore in your 100 sized inv?

>>175458235

Will saves be compatible?

>>175458257

How about fuel costs?

>>175458290
probably yes

>>175458235
How are you sure?

>Yeah, I'm definitely going to tone fighters down a bit in the .1 release. It's pretty clear they're currently OP, but it feels like a few relatively minor adjustments (along with some judicious nerfs of specific fighters) can bring them in line. Combat skills could possibly use a slight buff, as well.

>>175458370
i can feel it
just wait, it'll happen
also my dad works at fractal softworks

>>175458327
Jesus christ, it's in the game...
2 shepherds give you +20% to salvage for 6 supplies/month and 2 fuel/ly
1 salvage rig gives you +25% to salvage for 3 supplies/month and 2 fuel/ly

>>175458726

Coolio, thanks.

I see you talking about yellow and red and yet all my beacons are orange. And I've seen everything from a couple of frigate groups to hordes of carriers and a shielded station in them.

>>175458235
[citation needed]

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>>175458951
forgot pic. Not that you can see much.

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Left is the error the game gives me after reaching the main menu, right are the mods. I made the java 64 fix too in case that matters, any ideas?
also I couldn´t find GraphicsLib 1.0.4 in the mod page, only 1.1.0, which supports 0.8, I don´t know if that may be it

>>175459079
they don´t show up red in the map icon as fas as I know, only in-game

>>175460125
You literally just said why the game is crashing.

>>175460212
In game they show up grey and only change color when they bleep every so often. In orange, as far as I've seen.

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>>175460125
You idiot.

anyone knows a good tutorial about how to create systems/planets?

>25% CPU usage
>20% GPU usage
>sub 40 FPS
Is Java just that bad?

>>175460686

Post system specs. I get constant 60FPS.

>>175460730
Why would the specs matter when only a fraction of them are being used?

>>175460686
The thing that describes Java the best is a quote from one of the Skyrim sex mods. When you're asked to select a sexual position there's an option "fuck me like those Oracle devs".

Have we finally migrated?

Also I just started a new playthrough, without buying anything from markets except for the usual supplies. It's arther fun, you really have to make due with whatever you get. I was ecstatic about fining a sunder with only one d-mod, and now I'm hving fun blasting small shits with my triple mining blaster setup

>>175460949
Migrated? We've been buried. This general wont even be up by Monday.

>>175461003
So forcefully migrated?
Just make a new /v/ thread without calling it a general

>>175460454
>>175460348
Oh shit, thanks
To be fair with myself it does say in the Starsector+ page to use GraphicsLib. still, my bad

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>>175454523
>AI cores come from the REDACTED enemies
False. I've recovered many Alpha cores from Domain survey ships and motherships. The defense systems are piss easy to kill too. Although I was pretty disappointed that the mothership exploded after I took out the puny weapon pods. I wanted to salvage it whole, is there a way?

Also, I learned that even if a system has only one planet, it can still have loads of probes, and they will all be in close proximity to each other because the possible orbits (star, planet, jump point, dust rings) are few. I recovered six or seven probes from one such system, all in the range of a single scan.

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It's weird that I can use the console to give myself a REDACTED station and all its weapon/shield pods, but can't put them together.

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>>175461863
Same thing with this one, anon. It looks like its "pods" are hardcoded, and even if you get it, you can't install anything on it.

>>175461863
>false

No, it's entirely true though you could say it's a partial truth. You/he were told to salvage anyway so no damage done.

>>175461863
Note: Survey ships and motherships always seem to have many times longer orbits so they wouldn't be discovered as easily as surveying a planet. Often I only pick them up with a long range scan. HOWEVER, the probes that are found much more easily will tell you if there's a survey- or mothership in the system or nearby, so don't just quickly tap through the salvage process! The message is stored in your fleet reports for a while.

>>175462251
>>175462391
Yeah, there are a couple of issues with modules right now (hopefully they'll get resolved in 0.8.1). That's why Scy hasn't updated yet.

>>175462251
But if you want them you have to add one of the variants to your fleet rather than the bare hull.

Yeah I just figured it out. If you want to stop your Carriers from being suicidal, don't give them any escort. That way they stay way back because I guess they realize they have no protection to go to the front.

>>175462391
>>175462251

Wait, domain-era and REDACTED ships are supposed to be salvagable?

I thought the player could not get them.

Is it just me or the link for Diable Avionics is dead?

>>175462821
There's a mod for that. Stations are never salvageable, I used console.

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>>175462761
Huh, it works. Even allows to edit individual hardpoints.

>>175452284
Yeah and it's Syria General

>go to every hegemony military outpost
>all selling onslaughts

I ALREADY HAVE AN ONSLAUGHT I JUST WANT THE BATTLECARRIER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>175463760

I just want a fucking odyssey.

Where can I buy one? Everyone wants me to get a fucking commission first.

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so, should i go ahead and buy a falcon XIV since i can't get the fucking battlecarrier for the life of me? this is my current garbage fleet

>>175463760
>bought an onslaught
>immediately regret my decision

I want the speed of the Falcon but more firepower.

What do

>>175464317
>speed
just press f

I sure love how these Scavengers turn red but only when they are right on top of you.

>>175464423
I hate the burn drive, it makes me vulnerable. I can't stand the idea of getting hit even once if I can help it.

sigh

I guess I'll have to fix my autism

>>175464790
>not charging headlong into the biggest enemy ship, blasting away with your ion cannons and ballistics as you spacejoust

faggot

>tfw you salvage a ship and it's only D mod is compromised armor
Glorious cheap deployment

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So, uhh...

You can install hullmods on each individual pod of the battlestation. And shield mods work.

So now you have hardened+accelerated+extended shields on it, along with flux distributers/resistant conduits/flux coils. And each pod counts as a frigate, so the OP price of hullmods is really low.

>>175465079
It's also bad because I can't install improvised hangars on all of them and have 16 fighter wings.

how the fuck do i get markets to show new ship stock

god damn it, ive burnt myself out on starsector already
time to leave and wait another few months/years/decades for the mods or game to update

>>175465908
you need to use sustained burn xd

So abandoned stations seem pretty cool, I can put ships there for later use and store things, do I need to claim it or anything? Will I need to protect it against enemies?

>>175465772
Markets refresh every month

>>175466369
If you mean abandoned stations in core worlds, then you can put there whatever you want and it will never disappear. You don't have to claim it or defend.

>>175466369
You can just leave them at whatever market station you use more frequently. Putting them there is just a waste of time.

>go to tri jew space
>all these high tech derelict ships
ok

Post music for bounty huntan or TRUCKAN

>>175468607
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQWAcgefsQQ
Forgot the link

is there any way you can change the "speeding up time" speed up factor?

yo can anyone post the weapon guide

I don't know what to put on my shield and armor killers. best medium weapon I can think of is the triple arbalest

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>>175470619

>>175470827
Machine Guns are not underwhelming as PD.

>>175470827
This guide isn't even remotely a guide, it just tells you what the weapon does.

>>175470986
Compared to the flak everything is underwhelming

Can someone post crack.jpeg please

>commisioned for Hegemony
>want a paragon
should i just make a new game?

>>175471781
Go fight trikekyons, they'll drop this for you

>>175471835
but muh dmods

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>>175471638
Nevermind, archive is friend

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>>175472028
Restore ships or learn to live with them

>>175472186
>restore ships
wait, you can remove dmods?

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>>175472391

>>175472495
Oh shit, didn't know about that. Thank you.

>>175472495 >>175472391 >>175472585
You must be docked at a station/planet though.

surely my fleet of frigates and two destroyers is enough to handle this 40k hull mothership + friends

>>175462391
>>175461863

>mothership

I can't be the only one who thought of Homeworld once I saw this thing? A ancient space hulk drifting through space, guarded by equally ancient and obselete machines programmed to protect the now defunct mothership.

Shit was awesome.

>>175464317

Onslaught can take on a Paragon 1vs1.

The only disadvantage the Onslaught has comes from its insane fuel cost, which is 15 per day, whereas mid-and hightech have 10 at max.

>>175470827
>>175471136

Yeah, there's no Dual Flak either.

And the Tachyon Lance is easily the best large energy weapon in the entire game.

>>175472585
>>175472028

Restoring is only worth it for rare ships like the Hyperion or Scarab, maybe even the Tempest.

Invest into the Industry skill tree and you will never have to worry about D-Mods ever again.

>>175473903
Plasma cannon wants a little talk with your hull.

I JUST WANT HIGH TECH SHIPS TO PLAY WITH
I HAVE 3.5 MILLION
WHY IS IT SO DIFFICULT???????????

>>175474637
Join the tri-jews goy

>>175473903
>Flak cannonS

>>175474167

TL does about as much damage with longer range and has EMP to boot, and the latter can bypass shields if the target has high flux. Plasma is good and all but I'd say the Lance is the best in practical terms.

>>175474637

TT bounties will always have high tech ships. You can recover all kinds of crazy shit from their fleets, including Astrals and Auroras. If you have a lot of money you can restore them and remove their D-Mods, or just invest into the Industry tree and never worry about degraded stuff ever again.

>>175474728

Outside of the Paragon you rarely get what you want. I find there's more mid tech stuff in their ports than actual high tech.

>>175474868
Too bad TL doesn't deal hard flux to shields, it also has lower DPS.

Do I need to start a new game in order to use mod faction like Shadowyard?

>>175474868
Does this "high-tech" distinction have any in-game consequences or is it basically a cosmetic distinction?

>>175475821
energy weapon mounts and certain innate mods

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>>175468607
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuDmdYcHmkk

it hurts

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thoughts on this loadout?

>>175468607
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w34fSnJNP-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5p8YhhaVlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcUBI-YVRY8

>>175475129

I presume so since the planet they spawn on is only generated when starting a new game. Rule of thumb is to restart for every new mod.

>>175475821

You may have noticed that ships comes in either dark red/orange, white/beige, or with a bluish tint. Lowtech, midtech and hitech respectively. Mechanically lowtech have only ballistic slots and poor shields but excellent armor and hull, midtech have a mix between energy and ballistic slots and have a equal mix with armor/shield ratio, whereas hitech only have energy slots and generally poor armor but excellent shields and generators.

There are reasons lorewise why things are like this but the lore and setting hasn't evolved since 2011. Sooner or later Alex will have to update it somehow.

>>175476220

>shield mods

What kind of pussy are you, anon. You're in a freaking Onslaught, slap Heavy Armor on that bitch and tank it like a man. Ignore shields unless you're defending against torpedoes or bombers or plasma cannons.

>>175476220
>no integrated targeting unit
>unstable injector
>unstable injector with no integrated targeting unit
>hardened shields
>stabilized shields
>extended shields
>47 capacitators
>no reinforced bulkheads
>no heavy armor

>>175476220

>Low tech
Dissipation > Capacity
>High tech
Dissipation < Capacity
>Mid tech
Dissipation = Capacity

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>>175474728
They had a battlecruiser, that's it. Persians have better loot for commissars.
I already found one Apogee and like a million Destroyers just randomly in black markets.

>>175476220
Shield mods on onslaught, fucking lel.

Also, onlsaught needs dissipation, not capacity. Max the number of vents.

>>175476546
Heavy armor slows down the ship. And it's already slow.

>>175477353

You get 400 armor on a ship that already has around 1750. Get the right combat skills and you get like 200 extra. You're going to be virtually immune against kinetic weapons and that extra armor will help a lot since the Onslaught thrives in the thick of it.

>>175477353
Onslaught is not about catching fighters. You use Burn Drive to get into firing position, then just outrange most things with your integrated targeting unit.

>>175460686
Yes, java is literally THAT bad.

This game is eating up probably 2-3 orders of magnitude more compute power and memory than necessary just because it's programmed in java. Java is for shitty internet games you play in a browser for 5 minutes because the developer didn't know any better and who cares it took 5 days to make and oh boy look at all these libraries and documentation.

Just the fact that adding mods can use up all of someone's RAM fucking amazes me.

But hey, if all you've got is a hammer...

>The RNG may know you are playing a pirated copy of this game, let the paranoia begin!

Nigger what?

So, can I rename my ships somehow?

>>175477672

Should be a option in the Fleet Screen.

>>175477825
Refit screen.

>>175477601
Google FUD

>>175477601
stop being a nigger

>think getting cozy with pirates will improve the game since I won't have to deal with random encounters out of hyperspace when I'm trying to trade peacefully
>now they just open comms before attacking

>>175480365

I've never gotten friendly with pirates, what do they say?

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>about to cave and get trijew commissar status
>see this

>>175480978
There is a special spawn that occurs when you have trade missions.
They will spawn adjacent wherever you hit hyperspace, and demand as many goods as you're carrying to meet the mission.
I've never had this spawn comm before attacking when I had hostile reputation.

>>175480981
Is that ship any good?

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>>175482364
>can phase into another dimension to avoid all damage
>is it good?

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Rate my setup

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>>175476684
>>175476841
>>175477186
Okay so i've taken these things to consideration. Made few test runs and came up with this.

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ayy

>>175484453
Hey, don't you want that apogee?

>>175484319

That's much better.

Personally I'd switch the assault chain with a flak cannon , or better yet, dual flak, and remove the two flaks that are on the large mounts and replace them with something else. Cyclone launchers are beastly, but it might be better with annhiliators instead to keep a constant pressue. Believe it or not, but four of those pods will keep enough pressure on a Paragon allowing you to 1vs1 it.

If you attempt to disengage do your ships get deployment CR loss? If not, can't you just disengage to get a free full deployment against aggressors?

>>175484915

You lose CR from it, yes.

0.81 is out

>pulsar rays don't do anything

why

>>175485449
You wish

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>>175484602
>people having trouble finding Apogees in store
:^)

>>175485940
Its a known bug, the fix is held off until a later patch or if something that breaks the game like the early save corruption issue comes up again.

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>>175486131
Recovering ships is an amazing feature. You really don't need commissions if you keep working on those bounties.

So Transverse Jump lets you exit and enter hyperspace through planets and star if I understand it correctly. But can't you already exit like that?

>>175488958
you can exit from anywhere in the system, if you're being chased, just press the button and you'll be out in hyperspace

>>175488958
No? You can only exit through those pink hyperspace jump points but you can enter through planets and stars.

It's only really useful for escaping star systems where you are being chased by patrols you can't deal with, and for that purpose it's a life saver.

>>175488958
You spend 20 supplies and some fuel to jump out of the system anywhere/anytime you feel like.

It's a get-out-of-jail-free card.

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>>175488958
you can enter star systems through these pink things

Does Hegemony have any shield tanks?

>>175490194

Enforcers?

>>175490194
Eagle has some pretty juicy shields.

>>175490770
>>175490552
Yea, might pick up an Eagle

Why doesn't enemy CR ever go down?

>>175491319

Doesn't Eagle count as Independant more than Hegemony?

The Hegemony cruiser would be Dominator.

>>175491550
They're AI controlled synths.
They buy AI chips off you to bolster their numbers.

>>175491550
it does, but don't forget about peak performance

>>175491550

It does.

>>175491768
The hegemony has pimped out eagles tho

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WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT

>Going to take a goddamn month for version 8.1 to be released and subsequently all the worth while mods to be updated.

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BEACON DIDN'T SAY SHIT ABOUT THIS

>>175491793
I've never seen it go down.
A couple of my ships seem to have a malus to their peak performance. But the numbers are mostly the same.

>>175493430
Oh cool, multiple star system with a pulsar

>>175493460

If you're using /d/ ships then it's more then likely they're experiencing malus by default, even worse if they've CR relevant (d) hullmods

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What in gods name is going on here, are the remnants trying to weaponize solar flares or something?

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Ok now I'm scared this is reaching across the entire system and it's coming at me fast.

Is this the end?

>>175493913
I wish, a bug causes them to be like fluffy teddy bears and be harmless.

>>175493913
Nah, its just a pulsar. They dont do anything yet sadly.

>>175493913
Funnily enough they're supposed to just push you around.

>>175493616
But so are pirate ships. Pirates are all (d)s.

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this game made me curious about other space games, I have elite dangerous, but jumping from system to system is too boring, could I have some recomendations? just tried X4, but seems I should watch some tutorials before understanding what to, game asked me to hire an engineer, I did but still didn't progressed.

>>175493913
It's a jet of charged particles traveling at 80%+ lightspeed being ejected from the poles of a neutron star.

The way the game depicts them isn't really accurate though. First, the jets are usually perpendicular to the orbital plane, not parallel. Second, they have variable rotation speeds and a lot of them rotate several times a second. (up to hundreds/thousands of times per second, which is just nuts)

video related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHCnzb0xK7U

Even the slowest pulsar in this video is like an order of magnitude faster than the ones depicted in-game.

>>175494453
star control 2
master of orion 2

What gun do you guys like to strap onto the Conquests anti-ship side?
The anti-fighter side seems pretty well off with the Devastators and Heavy Needlers.

>>175494453
Could try Distant Worlds. You can set the entire empire to automate and then just fly around a little ship by yourself.

I tried E:D, too, for that space itch. But it was shit. So, so shit. Worst space sim I've ever played, and I played X:Stillbirth.

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Praying RNG will cave and give me the battlecruiser next.

>>175494952
space is fun

>>175495550
>>175495425
thanks for the recomendations, I'm surprised all of them are 2d but ok I'll try

>>175494952
Also, pulsar's are kind of rare. Given the size of the map in-game which is like, maybe 300ly and probably less, you'd be lucky to have a single pulsar at all, let alone multiple.

Same deal with the black holes, and the vast majority of the stars should be red dwarfs (like 50%, easily), and dwarf systems should have virtually all planets tidally locked to the star. The only exception would be things like moons orbiting gas giants and the like.

>>175495726
Maybe try Stardrive, too.

The combat has a Starsector feel to it, if I remember right.

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>>175494453
Battleships forever.

>>175485449
Hopefully we get RC20 on Monday. If we don't then it's probably going to be a very long wait.

>>175494453
Star Wolves

>>175495726
the space genre has been total ass for like 2 decades

Also look into ksp and space engineers

elite dangerous is ass, so is the original elite it was based on. 4x games never got much better than master of orion 2 except graphically, and absolutely nothing out there comes close to matching the writing/plot of star control 2, which is just sad because while it's good, it shouldn't have been a bar so high that nobody else could surpass it. when it comes to 4x the more modern ones are so content starved (endless space/stellaris), or just so poorly put together (stellaris) you almost don't even want to bother.

For 3d space fighter shootan you got independence war 2 (very very similar to star sector, actually), freespace, and some multiplayer version of freespace or something that I think microsoft worked on, which was pretty fun.

Aurora for dwarf fortress in space autism with a UI that is LITERALLY 20 years old from the dos era and quite possibly one of the single worst UI's I've ever had the misfortune of using in my entire life, it's even worse than DF's which at least gets by on usable hotkeys. Aurora is in that transition period from CLI and hotkey commands to nonsensical GUI designed by an idiot, except it was made 5 years ago instead of 20 or 25 years ago. It's an abject lesson in why we don't let the engineer/linux types do their "functional over form" UI thing - they always think rote memorization and abstract concepts are "functional", rather than simplicity and intuitiveness. e.g. they design for someone like themselves who've used the UI for ten years and not for clueless idiot retards with room temperature IQ that you need to actually design for.

how do you get the ship stations to refresh their market and add new ships for sale?

>>175497320
>space engineers
I have that one, it was just for building ships and flying I think there wasn't even combat, what's the game about now?

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Why is the Mule the best ship?

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>>175498013
Why Donkey of the Ludd best ship?

>use fantastically superior tactics to win what should have been an unwinnable battle
>glorious, barest victory, a triumph over madness against brute force
>save game
>open gl blah blah has crashed
>load up starsector
>load game
>load is from before the fight
Done. Just done. As if the bullshit of that fight wasn't already infuriating enough, now it's gone and stolen my victory from me by pretending it never happened.

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>>175498172
Look at that fucking clown. Why is the Pirate variant always the worst?

>>175498451
You could always cheat.

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>>175498495
Well support carrier on the way.

>>175498451
>when the computer gets so mad at losing it ragequits and reloads the save so it can beat you

>>175498710
That's exactly what I'm going to do.

Ain't putting up with that shit. I'll roll with a loss but not like this.

>>175452036
Link where?

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>>175494453
If you like the loadout and combat simulation of Starsector this oldie is worth a shot.

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>>175498013
It's not even the best freighter

>>175498995
Actually, no I won't. Can't fucking live with the cheat.

Gonna try to scrape victory again or at least die while taking out as many of them as possible.

>>175500813
I'd cheat. One, it's singleplayer, who cares? Two, user experience is more important than being fair... You won that fight, why not just jump to the conclusion?

>>175500338
that's because it is also a combat freighter

>>175500338
I just got a colossus in my no byuing ships run
Thanks, pirates or scavengers or whatever the fuck that fleet was

>>175498745
So this is the legendary "advanced A.I"

>>175500950
It's extremely tempting. Especially when you see them firing more missiles than they have any right to. The enemy hammerhead fired at least 8 harpoon missiles. Then, when I had to vent, they somehow found an extra 4 to fire.
It'd be fine if they had that extended rack mod, but they don't.

>>175501314
Wait, what? 12 missiles without expanded missile racks? That shouldn't be possible.

>>175501314
>>175501314

See if you can recreate that, and then post it to the forums for bug fixing.

AI Cheat is some straight horseshit and one of the reasons I never enjoy grand 4X games nowadays.

>Looking at YOU DISTANT WORLDS.

>>175502213
AI in SS is good enough not to cheat (I don't know about campaign, but in combat it never cheats). This is weird. Also, it'd be good if he kept the save before that fight so dev could recreate that bug as well.

>>175501314
>>175502043
Balanced Destroyer Hammerhead variant has harpoons with Expanded Missile Racks.

>>175502213
I'm trying but I'm having a hard time getting to the hammerhead, now. Past all those irritating little superfast, unshielded frigates and that fatass cruiser of theirs.

>>175502664
The AI is pretty good. The way the AI dodges missiles is some pretty nifty flying. God I wish my AI-controlled ships would fly the way they the enemy AI-controlled ones do.
They're good at flanking maneuvers, too.

>>175502213
>AI Cheat is some straight horseshit and one of the reasons I never enjoy grand 4X games nowadays.

It's the only way devs know how to do AI anymore

nobody puts in effort, they just go "add hp add damage lol done theres youre hard ai"

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>>175503190
>that endurance battle against the last goddamn Afflictor.

Which are the most cost effective rocket platforms? Mass vigilance?

How does the 10% hard flux dissipation from Defensive Systems 3 work? Is it in addition to your normal flux dissipation?

>>175504131

Condor with two Knopash wings, probably.

Long range pilum spam with 8x annihilator pods running about.

>>175504131
bomber carriers :^)

>>175504131
Vigilance with Reapers are complete assholes.

I wish you could simulate ships that aren't your own for testing things before going through the effort of getting them.

>>175504771
You could always enable dev mode and use the Edit Variants feature to test any ship with any loadout

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Trying my fucking hardest in this doomed fight. Think I did well in that engagement but those bloody pirates don't quit.
I made progress by pretty much sacrificing that wayfarer-class ship to draw off a few of their annoying little frigates.

I would be fine with a fleet wipe but I'm going to lose at least 6/8 AI cores, two class-IV survey datas and a class-V survey data. This is very early game so the cash from those is very much needed.

I will never respond to another distress call ever again.
I'll win this fight or I'll go take it out on the bloody starsector team and no-one will get a finished game.

>>175505125
Calm down Ahmed.

>>175505125
>or I'll go take it out on the bloody starsector team and no-one will get a finished game
That's going to be a very short list.

>>175504318
Think its 10% of your normal flux disipation rate will get rid of hard flux

What's the best personality for missilefags? I got a steady officer with rank 3 missile specialization and she never seems to fire missiles unless someone overloads and then she blows her entire load.

Have 2x Salamander, 2x Sabot and 2x Harpoon, should be more than enough to instantly disable and kill anything small.

>>175494453
You could try out Aurora 4x

>>175506276
The best you can hope for is aggressive and even then they'll probably have a habit of firing them all into enemy shields.

whats a good loadout for the vindicator(s) i want to use it cause i like the looks

>>175506276
Go for the ones without ammo counts. There's few rare missiles types that say they have "auto-loaders" so they can fire infinitely. They'll have a slower fire-rate but being able to spit out a missile whenever you need it is so much more useful than being restricted to an inexplicably tiny rack.
They scrapped ammo for the ballistic weapons, and that was a good decision. I never bothered to use them because you were guaranteed to run out of bullets in any fight. And you could actually bait enemies to waste all their ammo, then just mop them up with ease.

I bet they'll scrap ammo for missile launchers, soon enough. Either that or something like 1 reload each minute.

>the flux dissipation rate from power modulation 3 doesn't apply to flux dissipation from vents
Why

>>175507632
infinite ammo for missiles is a meme

You will virtually never use more than 20-30 in a fight with any single launcher, and that's really pushing it. Most of the time just 10-15 is enough.

So anything with that many missiles might as well be an infinite launcher. Especially combined with the extra ammo mod.

>>175507884
The ones with tracking will have 5 missiles on the rack, at best. Dumbfire missiles are different.

>>175506276
>never seems to fire missiles unless someone overloads and then she blows her entire load
That's how the AI uses Harpoons and it's a very good use for them. It might be overkill but it's a very reliable kill and that's important.

Annihilators and Swarmers the AI likes to just fire whenever they're off cooldown, no matter what they're shooting at, or if they had better weapons available for the job. Kind of a waste but they have a lot of ammo and the HE damage is good so it works out ok.

Sabots the AI likes to use on attack runs against Destroyers and above, very rarely against Frigates.

Torpedoes are weird, the AI just throws away as means to try to overload flux even though torpedoes only do 50% to shields.

Rest of the missiles AI just uses whenever they can.

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I hate how slow the combat is and how pokey and evasive the AI is. I feel like everything should be at least 1.5x faster and AI more aggressive instead of LOL WEAPON RANGE which makes crusiers and destroyers garbage.

>>175508871
They don't want to die, anon. They'll stay out of weapons' range to stay alive. Who can blame them.

>>175508871
Weapon range is too low.
The issue in space should be shot leading, not some magical range where things not experiencing friction stop working.

>>175508871
Literally everything in this post is wrong.

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so ranges are probably kept the way they are because otherwise the scale you can zoom out to wouldn't let you see anything, and AI would never hit anything because there is no "optimal range" just strict ones

dunno if I want to tweak them or not

>>175509432
weapon ranges feel like they're designed around the player being zoomed into their ship and seeing no further than 500 units, if that

could probably double ranges across the board without too much trouble

>>175513720
my god this formatting

how does the dev consider this acceptable

Okay, suppose I wanted to make a new spaceship and give it to the independent faction

what needs to be done?

I've been told I should create this in a mod folder of some kind instead of modifying the game's filestructure itself, but I don't know what's needed or anything.

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>>175513873
Here's 1000 units of range in game at 1920x1080 on the furthest zoom setting, there is about 2500 units vertically visible.
Doubling it would let beams hit nearly everything on screen.

>>175515523
If you right click you can look around further

>go into a system thinking the beacon was orange
>it wasn't

I can't decide where to sell my survey data. Should I sell it to the friendly independents? Should I offer it cheap to one of the major factions? Should I pawn it on the black market to dodge that fat tax?

I'm probably just going to put it in storage and forget about it.

>>175517595
Do you hate money?

>>175517869
Go to an stable market of a faction you don´t care about and sell it on the black market. The tax is a pain in the ass when we´re talking about that much money

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>>175515523
The game seems balanced around the idea that the player ship is always in the centre of the viewport if "maxCombatZoom":2.0, # zoomed out all the way - then beams with 1000 range can hit things up and down.

Of course with this "balanced" restriction, there is there is an unbalanced amount of viewport to the left and right on a standard 16:9 monitor setup anyways, so I'll just double this limit along with doubling weapon ranges.

And here is 2000 units range with "maxCombatZoom":4.0,

how to make ships

>>175452036
These need a pastebin of new player tips.

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>>175518272
what ship do you want to make?

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>>175513873
For all short weapon ranges, this is the case.

>>175519309
That's so close that you could go to a window at the front of the ship and exchange rude gestures with a member of the enemy crew, who also just happens to be looking out of a window.

>>175518250
>>175519309
Capital ships can extend range even further with mods

For example, targeting core mod means a tactical laser has 2000 units range, and with optics mod it's 2400 units range

If you doubled the default ranges, you'd get 4000 and 4800 respectively

I think I'd get rid of the targeting core mod if I increased default weapon ranges, for the most part I think the reason it exists for capitals in the first place is due to them being so big they take up like a quarter of the beam weapon's range with their hull just to start with.

>>175519283
a frigate which I can call my own :3

>>175520339
A family frigate seems like a really comfy place to live.

Or it would if fuel and supplies weren't so expensive that you have to fucking murder people for it.

who even designed the game sprites, the devs? do they have a fastforward youtube clip of them making one?

also I wish there was a camo filter or something for each ship cause fuck wanting to look simlar in design or color amirite

>>175521126
The blog posts had something about the design of the sprites.

>>175520339
what type of frigate do you want anon? I might be able to help you, my uncle has an old frigate that he doesn't use any more, do you have the credits?

>>175521126
A camo filter is trivial if you design the sprites with it in mind from the ground up.

However, it seems like nobody's actually done that.

>>175521126
>camo filter
What, a paint job? Who on earth would paint their spaceship, anon? That would be crazy.

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>>175514127
Just a matter of tools.

>>175514337
Starsector\starsector-core\data\world\factions\independent.faction

>>175523034
How do you did that in notepad?

>>175524904
notepad++ and the textfx plugin
https://www.cathrinewilhelmsen.net/2014/10/15/edit-columns-in-notepad-with-textfx-plugin/

Why did they have to make supplies so expensive?

>>175525168
To fuck you in the ass and force you to go full combat.

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>>175525168

There's a fix for that. Change the base value in commodities.csv

That should help you with playing and less being a jew counting beans.

>>175524996
Thanks.

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8.1 when?

>>175525469
do you know where I can find the numbers for the "speeding up time" function? I went back to playing my 0.7.2a build because muh mods, but I really miss the convenience of sustained burn so I just wanted to tweak the fast forward thing to speed it up a bit more

>>175525168
Money is no issue anyway.

whens it coming to steam so I can buy it

is it me or are energy weapons the patrician choice

>don't have to deal with % damage fuckery and shields
>just 100% to everything, bruteforce with enough energy damage and flux management

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>>175525649

data/config/settings.json

Do browse the rest of the config files and tweak it to your tastes.

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>>175525168
to balance out the rewards

>>175525783
when it's ready™ So never

>>175525783
Soon after Bannerlord release.
Fucking roaches release it already.

>>175525813
I don't really know a ton about coding, could you give me an example of the changes you would make to that if you wanted to double the speed up time effect?

>>175526023
They've been working on butterlord for at least 30 years now. When the fuck are they going to finish it?
Are they still wasting all their time on hair physics?

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Safety Overrides Eagle is the best pirate killer ever.

>>175526516
Its SotS 2 all again.
They piss main coder in the team and he packed and leave.
Now they try to finish it but no one on the team know how.
Kind of like Paradox.

>>175525813
nvm I figured it out.

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>1 cruiser

>vs 6 destroyers and 10 frigates

lol get rekt perseans

>>175527015
Are Medusas shit?

>>175525168
This is my current issue. I can't do shit because everything costs me more in supplies than I make back.

>Hadn't played SS in a while, but checked in every couple weeks for dev updates
>Suddenly new version
>Completely forgot how few ships and stuff there was in the base game and how many mods I had running last time I played

>>175527437
Pretty mediocre.
Nice flux stats and good mobility, but lacks decent punch.
A pretty good AI ship though I find

>>175526594
What weapons do you have on it?

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>>175527437
I'm using a modded weapon and they seem cool with them. But weapon itself seems kinda OP.

>>175527437
I think they're a good all-rounder. A fleet of them will have a definite edge over most pirate fleets.

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>120 days to survey a derelict
>wow, that's loads of time
>travel to system
>search for derelict
>keep searching
>search some more
>still searching
>search over here
>search over there
>searching searching searching
>time runs out

>tfw can't find any red beacons

>tfw lost fleet to some warthog fighters
What with that damage? Its not a bomber

>>175530148
>don't worry, it's in the heart of the system
>search five debris fields
>search everywhere around the star
>search the nebula
WHERE IS IT YOU FAGGOT?

>>175531382
fighters are OP son, get some better PD or get rekt

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ruh roh shaggy
>default settings.json has a parse error

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oh fug :DDD

>>175531382
EMP shits on unshielded fighters.

>>175525531
>>175524996
Word of warning, it broke my CSV.
I settled on this as the solution.
http://csved.sjfrancke.nl/index.html

>play fast and loose with ships the whole game
>true reckless bounty hunter ahoy, buy 5 shi´s every successfull run, lose 6. fuck try jews and their expensive flashy lights, I only need a wolf and a kite to fuck carriers up
>be tired of having to hunt for lost ships all the time, get carriers, replace the frigate models that die
>start noticing I'm dropping 20 ships without a single loss
>take a look at my fleet set up
>realisation hits
>I have become hi tech

>>175527437
they are a glass cannon.

put some good capacity, two antimatter blasters, hit and run.

expect to lose it every couple fights if you pilot it.

When's the hotfix coming?

Game suffers from severe lack of content despite having a solid foundation for it's gameplay. Have the devs considered adding some mod factions/ships from player-made stuff permanently?

Why is it that when I set a weapon mount as hidden it isn't actually hidden in game?

>tfw find 3 ai cores from one fight

Have anyone have some links to guide how to add ships to the game?
I made some new ones (for the Ludd) and do not know how to make them appear in the game.
Want to share the word of the Ludd with more people.

>>175539080
Which one?
Gamma? They are cheap. Alpha? You lucky fuck.

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tech and industry are the best skills t b h

>>175539094
http://starsector.wikia.com/wiki/Creating_a_Custom_Ship

>>175539204
gamma :(

>>175539442
You can still amass them and use for boosting rep.

>>175539247
What's good in Industry besides Salvage?

>>175540354
None actually.
Most its just more money skill.