/twg/ - Total War General

History.

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I tried bros, i really tried.
Mannlet is fucking unflushuble turd.
How can he have 4 stacks with Drakenhof

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I'm going to be dominated by a best elf!

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>>175283574
Third for AAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>175283713
F

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>delfcuck will soon get his wish

>>175284254
Is that meant to be morathi or regular bitch elf?

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And I think to myself...

>>175283967
>>175284254

^

are delfs edgy for a reason, because 40k deldar need to stave off slaanesh but delfs don't serve chaos right?

>>175284380
regular

>white/dyed hair -> Witch
>black hair -> Sorceress

>>175284475
I don't think there's a particular reason why delfs are edgy. They just like having slaves and I think they've tried to control chaos rather than serve it.

>>175284475
They're not as directly justified as deldar but in general they represent the more violent side of the elves, lots of associations with Khaine. Otherwise it's Malekith being a petty African dictator.

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Redpill me on Bretonnian-Imperial relations.

>>175286047
They have great relations and anyone who says otherwise is a Grey Mountains dwarf trying D&C shilling to better corner the lucrative tin trade.

>>175284475
The first bigman of the elves fucked half of them up to be evil when he decided killing daemons is more important than being nice

>>175286047
Couronne and Reikland have great relation, but bretonnian lords and imperial counts don't. Averland went to war against Paravon iirc and Franz led a charge against bretonnians when he was young

rank the magic lores from best to worst in-game

>>175286047
Occasional border skirmishes, sometimes played off against each other by Marienburg to ensure their independence, also have the odd diplomatic issue such as when Marius Leitdorf insulted the Duke of Parravon's wife.
Otherwise fairly firm allies. Louen Leoncouer called an Errantry War to assist in the defence of the Empire during the Storm of Chaos for example.

>>175286734
Vampires > Life > Shadows > Light / Death > Beasts / Fire / Big Waaagh / Little Waaagh > Heavens > Metal / Wild

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>>175286634
>>175287040
>>175286047
I cannot imagine a situation where the empire and bretonnia come to blows and the bretonnians are not totally BTFO, like how does some dudes in armour on horseback go toe-to-toe with gun lines and cannonry? fuck the empire even has fucking tanks!

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You wish ze lady's favour...?

>>175287445
Grail Knights have Ward Saves in the tabletop, anon. They can take a cannonball to the face and have a nonzero chance of walking away unscathed.

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>>175287445
???

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Ok fuck this, I'm not playing quick battle anymore.

I fuck this guys shit up, but it's a pretty close battle.

All he has left is louen on a hippogryph and a lore of life wizard.

I have enough dudes left to kill him over several times.

BUT NO!

He just cycle charges my remaining ranged units, nothing I can fucking do about it.

Then he just cycle charges Belegar until he dies.

There is literally no counter to cycle charging flying units and its fucking gay. They should change it so if they're exhausted you can't take off and they just become ground units.

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>>175287445
>>175287842

Somewhat relevant.

>>175287924
>Nothing I can do about it

Have you tried separating the units then just fucking shooting him until he's dead?

>>175287924
Z E E L A D Y
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>>175287924
We warned you about quick battle bro

We told you man, we TOLD you about quick battle

>>175287445

Muh Ladys protection

>>175287924
gitgud, Dawi are low tier

>>175286634
>Averland went to war against Paravon

They probably got upset when they saw the brettonians launching beautiful averlander women from their city towers

>>175287736
does it work the same way in the lore fluff?

has there been grail knights just taking bullets and cannon balls to the fact and being like

"nah bruh"

>>175287975
>Infamously ugly wife

Bretonnian book or Empire?

>>175283713
You have to fuck up Mannlet early. Within ten turns.

>>175288352
Yes. It's literally magic.

>>175287975
>3 yrs before the game takes place skaven attack nuln and destroy entire parts of the city
>WOW HERETIC LE RODENT MEN DO NOT EXIST ;) xD

>>175288449
thats amazing

>>175288041
A ranger unit with 20 dudes left can't kill him before he kills the other ranger unit with like 30 dudes left.

Even so there should be a way for 120 dwarfs (including some Slayers) and a half hp Belegar to kill a fucking hippogrpyh.

>>175288396
Empire book

>>175287924
>bringing an organ gun

you asked to get memed on desu. Dwarf warriors with gw are pointless vs brets and longbeards are a bit overkill as well. Should have gone w/ a cannon and more slayers.

>>175287924
>multiplayer
That's your issue right there.

>>175288467
Clearly just a beastmen horde that sneaked underground

>>175288157
but I HAD THIS! All his units had routed and there was only Louen left and I thought to myself that I'd won a really tricky battle.

There needs to be an internal timer for how quickly flying units can take off again to stop gay cycle-charging bullshit.

>>175288220
They seem ok, I've won every single battle apart from this and 1 other and in both of them they've pulled the gayest shit out of their arse.

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>start a new Gelt campaign
>cast his starting spell at least 6 times
>not one single kill
Holy shit the memes were true, Lore of Metal DOES suck dick.

Do the math you idiotic piece of shit whore retard and you'll see that your units didn't kill enough to make up for the losses

Some vortex spells for some reason don't count towards kill score

>>175288896
chances are that:
>peasant archers come back from routing
>hide them in a forest
>proceed to be an utter faggot and cyclecharge until win

Once each and every unit in the ground is shattered and/or wiped out, and only then, flying units are forced to fight on the ground or lose the match

As always, having some useless e-points to earn brings the worst kind of people

>>175288909
For whatever reason spells like Gelt's searing doom do not count towards their kills. Click the army you are targeting with the spell and you'll see their hp goes down quite a bit. Final transformation is really the only spell that sucks from that lore.

>>175288909
>>175289090

>>175288909
upgrade to get plague of rust asap, its his only way to deal with lords early on, and if you have sufficient ranged firepower can be used to devastating effect. the hounds/aoe armor/aoe debuff are also useful, but searing doom/final transmutation are shit.

Also he may have gotten some kills, but only certain spells (usually only vortextes) will show up as kills for your caster

So since CA stated that old factions on the vortex campaign map will be getting new mechanics and abilities, as well as old world factions in the combined campaign, do you think they'll finally make Warriors of Chaos interesting?

Also, do you think the WoC will be in the Vortex campaign to play as? Will they finally get the Mutalith Vortex Beast?

>>175289532
>Also, do you think the WoC will be in the Vortex campaign to play as?

no - they will probably only be in the old world/mega-campaign, and require the chaos warriors dlc from the first game to play in either

>>175287975
>3 years before Karl Franz Ascension Skaven destroy parts of Nuln
>Fast forward a few years
>Gotrek and Felix are in Nuln, KF has already been emperor for a bit
>Skaven planning to attack Nuln
>Nobody believes Skaven exist

Wat

>>175289640

I already own WoC so that's not a problem. I figured we'd see WoC in the vortex campaign though? Aren't there Chaos incursions into Naggaroth regularly?

Any mod which unlocks TEB Realms without having to use Crynsos'? I want to play as them but Crynsos framework comes with tons of extra shit I don't care for or actively don't want

>>175288559
So Marius put that infamously ugly part in there him self to talk shit right?

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>>175288352

I remember reading a book anthology (Black Library, so maybe it should be taken with a grain of salt) that featured a Grail Knight. Clouds literally part and shine on him when he marches. During a battle against Beastmen he cuts a path through hundreds of them and the book describes how not even dirt touches him.

However, said Grail Knight is killed by Skaeling king that favoured Khorne in the following book, so the Ladys protection is apparently not without fault.

>>175289684
It's not that they believe they don't exist, it's that they don't believe that there are uncountable hordes of them beneath them at all times. Those that believe in Skaven tend to think they're just a kind of beastman.

>>175289684

The timeline is a bit of a mess. I believe that attack is supposed to be the same attack that Gotrek and Felix fight.

I'm guessing GW, at that point, wasn't paying too much attention to how their lore would work with BL works.

>>175289684
Conspiracy magic

makes everyone who tries to warn people about skaven look/seem like the "ALIENS" guy

"Man sized rats with a vast empire hiding under every major city in the empire? Is such a thing even possible? YES IT IS"

>>175290063
No, Gotrek and Felix are flat out dishonorably discharged from the guard for starting a brawl with the guard captain because he put refused to believe in the existence of Skaven.

FUCKING MORTALFAGS GET THE FUCK OUT OF MINE KINGDOM, THOU HAST TRESPASSED. THY WORDS HAD BEST HOLD PROMINENCE OR DEATH WILL VISIT THEE! REEEEEEEE!

anyone else here play windowed mode? I feel like a pleb for doing so, but its the only way my 270x can pull decent frame rates.

I need your acceptance

>>175290483
nobody cares

>>175284475
Originally it was because Khaine is a dick and Morathi worshiped Slaanesh in secret. But then later they retconned it to be that the Elven pantheon is divided into dick gods and autistic gods, and the Dark Elves worshiped the dicks while the High Elves worshiped the autists and the Wood Elves did whatever they wanted.

Then it was retconned again that Dark Elves wuz gud bois

And then in Age of Sigmar the dark elves are basically batman

>>175290525

but you cared enough to comment :] thank you bb<33

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Rock the boat!

>>175290271
>Slayer joins the guard to stand around and guard something instead of dying piti-gloriously

Sounds like a pussy ass dwarf, yes-yes, very very cowardly

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New comp

I enjoyed Belegar for expert charge defence but it was awkward as shit to use.

I just took more Slayers & GW rangers instead of a runepriest & longbeards because both those units destroy cav & are fast enough to flank well.

>>175289154
thing is he had a life wizard on a unicorn left.

No fucking way I could ever catch it.

>>175290528
>And then in Age of Sigmar the dark elves are basically batman

I've gone out of my way to avoid AoS shit entirely but now you have my attention. Please, tell me how retarded it is

>>175290696

AoS is actually pretty good if you're not some ass-blasted autist that's upset their favorite fantasy setting got BTFO.

AoS pretty much saved the fantasy franchise for GW

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Goblin Dabbing

>>175287975
Is Marius Leitdorf /ourguy/?

>>175290978
I just don't like the overall aesthetic of it, really.

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>>175291160

Not only is he /ourguy/ but he's also an old friend

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>>175290271

It's a bit unclear, actually, with the watch captain. They show the body to the him and he does report it, but since the head of Nulns secret police is working with the Skaven, it obviously doesn't go anywhere. Later on, it's stated how the watch captain refused to "take their report of skaven in the sewer seriously."

I interpret this as that he acknowledges that mutant ratmen might exist but that he refuses to believe in the idea of armies of rat people scheming in the sewers.

>>175291160
Halfling Purge Mini-Campaign when?

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>>175291160
Of course.

>>175288467
>>175287975
kek I played that skaven story in the pen and paper version of Warhammer

my celestial got impaled by an ogre-rat

bad times :(

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>>175291702

I hope the orc enjoyed his short lived victory.

>>175289532
>So since CA stated that old factions on the vortex campaign map will be getting new mechanics and abilities, as well as old world factions in the combined campaign,
Did they?

Is there anyway to unlock the dlc's without paying?

>>175291834
celestial wizard*

>>175290528
>dark elves are basically batman

Like Night Lords in the 40k then?

>>175291882
Yes, planning on playing a conquistador estalia campaign myself

>>175292106
Estalia more than any other, I wish for a sub-race DLC.

I used Chaos Divided back in the day. Is it still worth using or has it derailed completely? What about that norse dwarf mod?

>>175290681
replace thane w/ a runesmith, replace organ gun w/ cannon, drop one of the regular rangers w/ gw, get rid of the dwarriors w/ gw

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Why is Manny so Kawaii?

>>175291976
Look into CreamAPI

Besides the Blood scam and the retarded minicampaigns, the DLC are more than worth it

Is it possible to defeat the Wood Elves by like turn 3 as Carcassone? Any strategies for it?

>>175292574
Chaos Divided is literally Bloat: the mod

Norse dwarfs is great tho

>>175293095
not since they started camping

>>175292574
What, Cataph's Kraka Drak? It's pretty good.

Can't talk about Chaos Divided. Thought it was a bloated mess before so I can't really comment on it now

>>175293095
Maybe if you manage to assassinate their lord?

>>175291471
Or maybe the secret police chief told him the party line and since he liked his insides where they were he did as told.

>>175293148
Well what mod do you use to make chaos not shit?

>>175293550
chaos has the best vanilla campaign

>>175293265
>>175292574
Most of Cataph's mods are pretty on point. Kraka Drak and TEB are pretty much mandatory, and his Magic Overhaul makes Wizards and skill trees much more pleasant

>>175293550
warlords of chaos

>>175293550
MixXu's Norsca Overhaul for varied Norscan battles, Warlords of Chaos for the campaign, Later/Harder Chaos Invasion with DLC for everyone else

>>175292828
why though?

No point in taking a cannon if I've already got fuckloads of really decent anti-large.

Runesmith costs an extra 400 which is a whole other unit.

Normal rangers means less anti-large and regular dwarf warriors instead would mean my frontline has no AP and so it crumbles to any AP elite infantry.

What was that mod often recommended alongside tier 4 settlements? AI recruit/building i think it was about.

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Clash of titans

>>175293482

Possibly, but they're not discharged until after secret policeman is dead. But of course, others could be working with the skaven and continue to cover it up.

>>175294492
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=787066965

>>175288909
According to that screen he got 31 kills that just didn't get counted for him. Just add all the other kills and compare with the total number of enemy losses.

>>175294225
organ guns are shit and cannons are much better all around

thanes are shit and runesmiths come with actual useful abilities including rune of wrath of ruin which reks cav

at no point did i tell you to bring regular rangers

you are playing brettonia, ap elite inf is not a problem

if you can't understand this/argue against this you need to stop playing mp until you have a better understanding of faction match-ups and game mechanics

>>175294502
>triggered chaos gathering
>has multiple drogers/shaggoths
>still using regular chaos warriors

>>175294697
Thanks, i deleted all the mods a while back due incompitable with WE campaign and forgot the name

>>175294492

Yeah, that's it:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=761596200

I've been using it and it works pretty well, Grimgor doesn't spam Goblins any more, for example.

I've also used this at the same time, another made by him:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=892763102

Read the description for details and see if its something you like.

>>175292014
And rat ogre.

>>175294697
What's the issue with Chaos? Too OP?

>>175294650
But that's wrong. they make the report, the gang gets murdered, Gotrek punches out the commander of the watch and then they fight off bone ripper and hunt down police chief.

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>>175294838
I haven't gotten the building yet :|

>>175295108
No it's just that the main version of that mod changes up the chaos invasion, hence the "vanilla chaos invasion". The version posted has more compatibility.

>>175294838
>you are playing brettonia, ap elite inf is not a problem

elaborating on this, if you bring a cannon and utilize the gob lobber effectively, you can neuter any bret build that brings squires en masse by killing them before they can get into melee

>>175295598
Ah, i see.

God dammit can the Skulltakerz please fuck off with the 20-stack that fucking beelines toward my settlements. I'm trying to play a campaign here.

>>175290696
Malekith is now Malerion and is part-dragon and he and the dark elves are fighting the followers of slaanesh to keep slaanesh in prison

>>175290978
AoS is not good, it's just a replacement if you really want to keep playing

>saved the fantasy franchise

It destroyed the fantasy franchise, AoS is something else

>>175296286
>he didn't pay attention to the event

also why hasn't CA fixed their faction icon yet, its been there since the fucking beastmen patch

>>175295525

Gotrek punching the commander is only mentioned in chapter 2, the one after they've fought Boneripper and Halstadt. In the chapter where Halstadt is alive it doesn't happen. After two of the watchmen in their squad gets murdered and their neighbourhood burns down, Felix, Gotrek and another guy turn up and are assigned to clean up, after which they sneak into Halstadts HQ.

They're thrown out after killing him, not before.

>>175296695
Well that shuts me up

>>175296286
>meanwhile at CA
>hmmmmmmmm we should make the AI focus only on the player entirely and ignore everything else ever
>what an amazing idea! that should allow for some wholesome fun and engage the player and certainly won't allow for any kind of unfair advantage

>>175296568

>AoS is not good

Their sales numbers say otherwise

>AoS is something else

AoS is still fantasy, its just not set on that one planet anymore, its literally just another era of the same universe.

>>175293724
I see another thinking man is here

NIGHT DOGGO WARBOSS

>>175297179
>saaaaaaaaales

AoS is a zombie, so are you

>>175297484
>chaos has the best vanilla campaign
>is a paid DLC
oh there's DEFINITELY some :thinking: going on here

>>175292986
why you visit reddit?

>>175296568
Well if fantasy wasn't dead already no one would have needed to make it rebirth

>>175291471
The point being this shouldn't be up to contention if just a few years earlier there was a massive Skaven invasion of Nuln, leaving parts of the city destroyed.

That timeline doesn't make sense.

>>175297559
there are no night doggo, only night gobbo

>>175297712
clearly not since you apparently can't figure out that vanilla in this case refers to a campaign unaugmented by mods

>>175297794
It isn't "rebirth", slavshit. Fantasy is dead period.

>>175297705

real great argument there, bud.

its a zombie? what does that even mean?

Listen, if you don't like the game, I don't care, but don't act like its some obscure terrible trash that nobody plays, because not only are sales up, the attendance of games and number of people in GW stores are up too.

Face it, AoS made your niche tabletop game relevant again

>>175298262
AoS is up because of novelty, it pulled more numbers than WHFB which was pretty much dead because of GW's carelessness but less than WHFB originally pulled.

It's a failure of a franchise that didn't revitalize anything, just gave it enough electroshocks to put a corpse moving

IE Zombie

>>175297982
>muh slavic boogieman

We're not on /wgg/ bob

>>175298432

regardless of the reasons, AoS is pulling sales, getting loads of new players and more and more WHFB vets are getting over their autism-fit and playing the game.

and now that the story is progressing and point values are assigned, the game will only get better.

stop being so salty

>>175298898
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to be discussing a tabletop game in /vg/, whose content is completely unrelated to Total War! Whoops! You should always remember to limit the discussion of tabletop games to /tg/, unless directly related with the videogame title from the corresponding general! it is widely considered poor form!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the /vg/ culture!

>>175299037
>/vg/
>culture

Do you even taste the pasta you paste?

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>>175297559

KARL FRANZ (GYROCOPTER)

>>175298898
they draw in people because the rules are so easy a four year old can understand them. It constantly dumbs every single thing that was great about WHFB down because the AoS writers are uncreative hacks

>>175300035
>the usual "IT WAS SO GREAT I SWEAR" reaction about something that died because no one cared about it

I liked it too, but just let it go. You can still play it if you didn't do something retarded like selling everything or burning it

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>>175299697
BY SIGMAR, NO!

>>175300035

>I don't like it so its dumb

yeah its SO dumb that new players don't have to read through a harry potter novel sized rulebook before getting to play.

This is some weapon-grade Autism

The slayer throng moves!

How am I actually meant to deal with Mourgur though?

I heard he was weak to melee damage but he seemed to beat Ungrim 1v1.

>chaos beelining to my settlement

I thought SFO was supposed to fix the shit AI?

>its another "AoS discussion in /twg/" thread

fuck off to /tg/ with that shit

>>175300918
happens every campaign no matter who you play as, one of the bigger flaws w/ the campaign if you ask me

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>>175300871
forgot pic

>>175301015
While you are right, it's about as relevant as WW1/2 discussion that happened here in the past. You're just not interested in it.

>>175301101
He has a 20% weakness to fire. I think dragonfire pass warriors are good against him.

>>175301101
>>175300871
does ungrim have magic damage? If so morghur has a very high resistance vs magic - I'd also guess that ungrim took some spirit leeches, if one of those bray shamans has the lore of death.

>>175301229
>discussing history because 9/10 of the total war titles use historical settings
>discussing age of sigmar because total war warhammer takes place in the whfb setting

one of these is not like the other

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>battle of 8000
>only Vlad and Isabella left alive
truly the power of love.

lmaoing @ Templehof fags

>>175301610
Both of those subjects are irrelevant to TW, just say that you don't like one, it's not like anyone will give you shit for it

>>175302064
>history irrelevant to total war

>>175301918
>not having a nose and a streamlined, aerodynamic head

lmaoing @ vlad

>>175302269
>intentionally missing the point

So apparently one of the guys who works on Steel Faith has a Radious submod for whatever reason. he rolled back the unit cost/upkeep changes, lowered morale some (it's still very high), allowed AI to confederate again (why do people hate this again?), and generally has been trying to take out the craziest parts of Radious. Now he is removing the more retarded units from the mods while keeping the ones that have some attachment to the lore. If this keeps up, I might actually try a Radious playthrough.

>>175302554
>building a strawman

>>175302346
>being hairless cancer patient

lmaoing @ mannlet

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>finally survive the aggressive orcs by ambushing them
>secure my province
>go to diplomacy
>every province says "Distrusts the Empire"
By the comet...

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>>175301610
Nah he doesn't, just plain old normal damage.

And yeah possibly. I was expecting Ungrim to kick his shit in though and nothing seemed to really hurt him.

This was a pretty tricky battle.

I fucking hate it when people spam mounted heroes.

>>175302786
>pointing out a fallacy in the argument thinking it does anything to defeat the argument itself

You can be better than this anon. What baffles me the most is that you're doing all this just to try and stay on some kind of moral high ground instead of just saying that you don't like AoS being discussed.

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How can others even compete?

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Fuck these fucking niggers.

I'm sick of them coming to mess with my shit.

175303298

you don't deserve my (you)

>>>/tg/

>>175301229
>>175302064

Discussing any historical era is relevant in /twg/ because any of them can be the next Total War title

Discussing AoS however is not, because CA will most likely never make a AoS TW

So please fuck off with the constant AoS shit we've been seeing lately

>>175303523
>WW2 can be the next TW title
>AoS can't

Bold assumptions there, care to elaborate?

>>175303663
>doing the ww2 strawman again

kys my man

>>175303523
>i am salty about AoS the post
>CA will never make AoS TW
Care to lend me that crystal ball, anon?
I need some lottery numbers

>>175303765
>strawman

WW1/2 discussion actually happened here my recently arrived friend

>>175303663
>>175303803

WW2 (even though the chances are small) literally has a better chance of becoming a Total War title then fucking AoS

Fans have been asking for a WW1/WW2 Total War title for years, who the hell's been asking for a AoS title? Probably just the 3 people in this thread

>>175303918
link me a /twg/ thread where ww2 is being discussed then, you cumguzzling moron

>>175304001
So what you're saying is that you can only discuss what is approved by popular demand?

>>175304001
>Fans have been asking for a WW1/WW2 Total War title for years
And what they got was Warhammer, CA truly listened to the fans, anon.

My point still stands, don't pull up stuff you don't know out of your ass.

>>175301610
Those are exactly the same and you know it you intellectually dishonest piece of shit

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>put army in ambush stance outside Gorssel
>three Skaeling stacks come sailing down the coast
>take army out of ambush
>they all leave
You call this an invasion

>>175304091
Lurk more fucking newfag, I bet you started with S2 at best. The archive blew up long ago anyway.

>cheese builds are so annoying!
>but not flying lords, flying lord assassin squads, and net of amyntok. those are just the meta.

>>175304120
AoS has literally nothing to do with total war, and is only discussed here when fa/tg/uys try to derail with shitty bait posts

>>175304204
>discussing related eras in history vs discussing an entirely different fictional setting

last warning, bud

>>175304287
oh, so you can't. Good to know you are just making shit up

>>175304605
>the newfag asks for proof of something that happened before he was here

What happened to this site?

>>175304605
Warn me more you pathetic faggot. See what good it does.

AoS has as much to do with Total War as all other settings that aren't covered by a Total War game already: potential total war games.

But keep thinking you have any semblance of reason or sense you pitiful little bitch. Let's see what you can do.

>>175301101
I've faced this same player 3 times now with the exact same build and every time he tries something new and gets shat on.

>>175304813
>AoS is a skirmish wargame without formations
>all TW games have units in formations
There is a deeep truth somewhere here, maybe you can figure it out.

>>175304946
Total War Warhammer also hasn't formations you nearthandal, should we not discuss it?

It'd feel sorry for your parents had it not been for the fact they birthed such an abomination.

>>175304473
based mods

>>175304946
>what is creating game mechanics for the purpose of making stuff playable
No formations on tabletop doesn't mean you can't make formations in game, i swear to god, do you have no imagination?

>>175304946
>every period of history ever had formation combat

Just stop

>>175305161
>every period of history covered by a TW game had formation combat
really makes me think

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>>175304978

>>175305274
I'm just glad you're not in charge of developing games I'll ever play

>>175304803
>autist claims that ww2 discussion happens all the time in /twg/
>can't deliver proof of constant ww2 discussion in /twg/
>can only deflect when called out

nice

>>175304813
actual newfag detected

>>175305113
>Total War Warhammer also hasn't formations you nearthandal

except it literally does, notice how your troops move in nice blocks and arrange themselves in ranks? Sure its not shield/spear/hoplite/pikewall, but its a formation, not 4-5 dudes running around like something from DoW

>>175305580
I don't know, truly I have expected too much of the fans of AoS

>>175305553
>all the time
>constant

Do you not know how to read, or do you just make shit up on the fly?

>>175305553
In that case AoS has formations as well, abstractions based on unit positioning.

So please move the goalposts again so we can find more reason to laugh at your sad pathetic newfag ass

Still waiting for you to do anything tough guy. What was that about "final warning"? Piece of shit idiot retard

Really enjoying all the quality posts about Total War games

>>175305610
>>175305767
>elite shitposters

Moe-poster, TOMB KANGZ and KNIGHT OF BRETONNIA posters were elite.

This fool is just a bored kid looking for a fight without having to have his scrawny face caved in by literally anyone he could brawl with

>>175305749
move those goalposts

>>175305770
this is just bait

>>175306030
>Goalpost mover complaining about goalposts

Shitposters used to put more effort in their art.
Then again they weren't newfag attention whores back in the day

>>175306030
Since you like it so much, please provide proof that anyone said that WW2 got discussed "constantly"

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>>175305242
>can't win an argument
>turns to shitposting
>is a personafag
Sad!

WW2 is a shit setting.
Go play fucking Blitzkrieg

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>>175304978

>>175306196
>get called out for moving the goalposts
>move them again

wew

>>175306442
That's how most pick up games play out, in any game, yes. Good thing i had actual human beings to play with in order to avoid such things.

>>175306560
>asking for proof is moving the goalposts

Oh wow, looks like you moved them first then, how unlucky of you!

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>3 units of GW rangers killed his big spider before it even reached melee
loving this new build desu. Feels more thematic as well.

Is there a reason to keep normal skeltals after Grave Guard is available?
It's sad to see the technology and red line buffs go to waste

>>175307001
I think skeletals can stay useful thanks to all of that
At the very least they're still good for tanking missle fire

>>175306731
>(you) present a flawed analogy in which you assert that AoS posting is just as relevant to /twg/ as WW2 discussion
>get asked to provide evidence of WW2 posting ever occuring in /twg/
>can't
>resort to shitflinging over semantics and goalposts as your original argument has no evidence to support it

>>175306876
good shit anon

>>175307001
really only for chaff and quickly raised armies. Skelly spears can be useful for the anti-large bonus as well. Tech/red line buffs might also apply to summons

have anyone tested the Chaos Dawi and Tomb Kangz mods for custom battles ? how are they ?

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>mountain niggers declare war on me
>sack grunburg
>chase them down to wissenland
>catch them underground tunneling
you fags are going to get it good today

>>175307263
milkandcookiestw has a couple of vids featuring the kangz mod on his channel, idk about the chaos dwarf one

>>175307193
Keep lurking anon, maybe I'll get in the mood to discuss it again someday

>>175306876
How are you using the slayers?

>>175307263
Kangz seems about as good as you can get without the ability to add custom assets
Havent looked into chaos runts yet

>>175304605
>discussing related eras
WW1/2 is related to total war? seems like it's related as much as AoS is related to TW

>>175307828
exactly, just like no one discusses ww1/ww2 here, no one should discuss AoS here

>>175307828
In his head everything historical is related to TW because it's history, but only WH is true fantasy apparently.

>>175308081
>anon still can't get his head around the concept that something may have happened while he wasn't looking

Not wise anon, not wise at all.

>>175308081
>no one discusses X
>that means people are prohibited to discuss Y
???

>>175308081
>No one discusses it

Shitposting used to be harder

>Playing quick battle vs empire
>Enemy Franz sees theres no ranged units so he goes to fly about my army & scout
>Uncovers great weapon rangers who open fire
>tries to flee across the rest of my army
>Uncovers more great weapon rangers who open fire
>tries to flee in the same direction
>uncovers my last unit of great weapon rangers who open fire
by the time he got away half his HP was already gone.

>>175307473
Usually they're for fucking up cav & monsters but I use them to flank and take out archers quite a lot as well.

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>>175283574
Gotta tell you /twg/ I don't know what happened here

>>175308479
I don't know, there is some advanced shitposting going on here right now

>>175309008
this is standard for early vamp cunts

>WE are 5th power faction
>lose the oak of ages and one province in Athel Lore to Beastmen
>WE rise to 2nd power faction with VC being 1st
well then

>>175309424
if you kill your enemies, they win

>>175302559
>double upkeep
>a focus on a less armies
y tho... Having multiple armies is how the game feels swarmy. Having greenskins reinforcments coming from all sides to take on the dwarfs makes sense. Adjusting unit size doesn't cut it

>>175309424
>poke beehive
>bees get angry

Greenskins having such low leadership makes absolutely no sense. If anything, they should have the highest leadership because they live for fighting and feel reduced pain etc

>>175310949
They love fighting when they can win

>>175310949
If you die you can't fight anymore.

>>175310949
Can't fight mor if ya got krumpt. Gottu leg it to foight anotha day.

>>175311059
No they just love fighting period, but of course no one likes losing. They are literally designed for fighting like pitbulls are.

Why on earth can humans outlast them when humans are physically inferior, not made for fighting, and of course fearful as fuck

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>>175283713
>>175288417
Or you're just good and conf him at turn 77 :^)

>>175311231
Who Valten killed that entire beastmen raid with just a hammer?

>>175311231
With Faith, Steel and Gunpowder

It's the STR vs DEX argument all over again

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Behold the most powerful Skaven wizard!! Better than Thanquol!! Witness true power!!

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Ok this is just bullshit now.

How the fuck am I supposed to deal with cycle charging Louen with a lore of life damsel on a unicorn?

There's no way I can catch either. For a second I was able to ground Loen with slayers but then he just charges them with the remnants of some cav and Louen lifts off again.

I'm tempted to take a crossbow unit to take out the damsel but i'm not sure how efficient they'd be given how small a target she is.

Is archaon better as a fighter or wizard?

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>>175311231
Warhmmaerh greenskins just aren't that disciplined. Some live to fight, some to survive. Since they got shite gear and zero education it's not really that uncommon that they will rout when one imperial halbedier smashes their brethrens head in half.

>>175310690
That's all fine and dandy until you remember the Dwarfs have exactly the same upkeep adjustments and are as likely, if not more, to be the swarmers in that scenario

>>175311685
Also how is the ultimate chaos mod?

>>175311589
They should really add that campaign sword item that makes nearby foes immobile for a limited amount of time to mulitplayer dwarfs(a long with other universal items). Might be a bit OP though.

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kekking so fucking hard. Those zombies held those blood knights the whole fucking game while I killed the lord

based

>>175312014
Nice

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>>175312014
>Oskar the Astute

>>175311589
I seriously fail to understand how can somebody enjoy this shit

>I'm tempted to take a crossbow unit to take out the damsel but i'm not sure how efficient they'd be given how small a target she is.
If the opponent keeps any micro on the damsel, they are useless for the reasons you described

>>175311685
He's a very good fighter and lore of Fire is great

But you can always bring another Wizard to fill your magic needs, you can't bring another Lord

>>175312248
toot toot

>>175311589
you would probably need to switch out some of the rangers for thunderers for the bonus range. Unfortunately the situation you described is sort of the hard counter for the dwarfs, normally other factions would just rout the damsel and make louen flee. If you can keep a runesmith alive long enough rune of wrath and ruin can be good for getting the lord when he swoops in.

>>175312264
>I seriously fail to understand how can somebody enjoy this shit

the unit/faction variety in wh can make for some fun battles when you don't go up against tryhards or meme builds.

>>175311738
Dwarfs suck at swarming because they are slow as fuck and expensive units are easily tied down by trash. Plus greenskins have waaghs making 2v1s and 3v1s far more viable.

I was just trying to say that I didn't know less armies was so desirable. I've never really heard people complaining about army number like they have with agent spam. Is it to make the AI better?

A big problem with this game is there is no population mechanic and so all the factions can spring back from a loss too quickly already which makes no sense lore wise

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They better put Campaign Ending cutscenes in II or at least a couple after achieving important shit. I know they won't do it now but Belegar retaking the Karak Eight Peaks definitely deserved a cutscene.

>>175311589
>playing MP
You've done this to yourself.

>>175313193
>turn 142
>all those grudges
DAWI YES

>>175288417
ye, took me first 12 turns after restarting.
He defends this shit like mad

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Yeah this defo isn't fun anymore

In theory I should be able to fuck him up but raise dead says otherwise. Also the fact that although slayers counter large, skeles & zombies counter slayers.

>>175313519
>if she were an actual skaven she would be mercilessly raped day in and out until she was a bloated breeding sack of a woman who was only good for pumping out ratlings

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>>175313702
this is my fetish

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>>175313519
NO-NO YOU LITTLE PIECE OF SHIT, DON´T DARE TO DEFILE MRS. BRISBY, DIE-DIE STUPID HUMAN-THING!

>>175313702
>>175313519

wtf i'm a furry now!

>>175314085
>Finding out this stuff exists harkens me back to 5th grade
You're just now discovering furry porn exists?
Are you old enough to post here?

>>175313413
ay i just fought that guy

>>175314401
did you win?

>>175314618
nah he brought 4 gyrocopters when i tried to do a vamp army w/ ghorst and didn't bring any fliers

>>175314728
out

fuckin

memed

post yfw skaven reveal trailer with this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CDgzy9zvdA

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oh fucking retarded ho

Wait where did the zombie dragon come in? Mannlet's model is on a horse

>>175314265
no, my autistic watching and watching of the secret of nimh

>>175315793
it's a comfy kino

>>175313519
>>175314085
once more rodent posters reaffirm their position as the absolute worst posters on this general.

>>175315585
Don't be a cuck, just shoot her in her stupid face

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Just picked up Attila on sale. Which mods are good and how good is the game? :-)

>>175316531
oh i'll shoot her in her stupid face alright

>>175316476
There's a reason they're called Reddit Rats.

>>175316683
Where was it on sale? I haven't seen it on sale on Steam recently.

>>175316683
It's shit, you got memed

>>175316829
Gamesplanet; there is a total war franchise sale going in for the weekend

>>175316874
Explain plz. Everything I read said it's one of the best in the series and improved upon Rome 2

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>try out lore of metal
>it actually wins me the battle

plague of rust + sigvald seems to be a good way to nuke foot lords, I'm going to have to keep trying it out

>>175316874
>>175317336
hes memeing you, attila is very good. Unfortunately the only large overhaul mods are incomplete due to abandonment (FotE) or are still being worked on (1212, AoE). AoC is a great mini-campaign

>>175315585

how is that army comp treating you vs chaos, assuming you aren't autoressing

>>175317472
Any thoughts on the radious mod?

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>>175317793

>>175317901
It's shit? Your gonna have to spell it out I'm retarded

>>175318293
>It's shit?

yes

>>175318550
Thanks ;-)

Tomorrow will be the day?
atleast skaven art pls

>>175320557
who?

>>175320557
>the day
>ever being on a weekend

no

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>>175320612
No no no nooooo stop with that meme shit!

after back to back legendary campaigns as Mannlet and Azhag I can't decide what is the shittier low tier cav, black knights or boar boyz

>>175320557
>Weekend
>the day

No, definitely not.

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>>175321217
Boar Boyz, hands down.

Proof is in the captcha

>>175321217
Black knights can be healed.

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I can't stop Chaos

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>>175321837
Truly, the worst of feelings

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>>175321837

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>>175322417


what if you're a son of Athel Loren, but secretly you're not that proud?

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>Vlad von Carstein, first of his name
>Emperor and Elector Count of Reikland

Hee hee this is going to be a fun campaign.

>>175316683

Get Age of Charlemagne and the unit diversity mod.

It's like a little early Medieval 3 game.

>>175324239
Which Unit Diversity mod? I search for "Unit Diversity" and it gives a lot of results, none of which possess the name "Unit Diversity."

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HOW DO I STOP THIS?

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What are some must-see documentaries for a Total War fan?
I'm not much into Muskets and I've seen shitloads of docus about Rome and Greece already

>>175324525
jack up taxes

>>175324572
>the solution to immigration causing low public order is to raise taxes, thereby causing low public order
thinking hats, people

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>>175324239
not him but is Attila + Charlemagne DLC for 10€ a good price
im kinda unsure about giving money to the "blood is DLC" game, and none of my friends have it to play online with them anyway

>>175324687
really, that is the only way to directly lower immigration through game mechanics. If its only a specific province you can do that and then exempt the province. Certain buildings for certain factions can also give a -% to immigration public order penalties

>>175324852
>is Attila + Charlemagne DLC for 10€ a good price

yes

>>175324525
Enact left-wing policies and promote open borders.

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>three Chaos stacks descend on walled city
>send Franz over there to break it up, thinking it's going to be an enormous battle for all creation
>their response to Franz coming within movement range is to lift the siege, scatter in all directions, and start raiding
The dark gods are faggots.

>>175324852
>im kinda unsure about giving money to the "blood is DLC" game
hasn't every game since shogun 2 had a blood dlc?

>>175324431

100 units | AoC unit pack

last year when I was playing it was only like 40 extra units but it was much needed don't know if he jumped the shark or not by now but the vanilla game you got worse unit variety than Shogun 2

Are Gyrocopters good for anything?

I'm tempted to run an air superiority build in QM and see how it works out.

>>175325452
i HATED the DLC in shogun 2 for the complete disregard of game balance it had
but havent bought anything newer than shogun 2

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>>175321837
Is that pic the Tsarina after being throat-fucked by a minotaur?

>>175325592
brimstone are good for fucking w/ large targets, regular are good against unarmored stuff. The bombs can also be useful against blobs

>>175324525
Build wall

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>>175283574
does anyone even play rome 2 anymore?

i cant get used to the hunched over soldiers. empire is aging better

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I call this one "The Bait Maneuver"

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>>175326594
you seriously can't believe that, there is a reason R2 has the most non-fantasy players

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>>175287975
>>175287736
>>175288352

grail knights are demigods and literally the greatest human warriors that exist

they are basically warhammer space marines

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>fots
>be sendai, shogunate
>long time ally turns into imperial and stab me in the back
Fucking treacherous shitters, I'm gonna do everyone a favor and become nobunaga II

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>>175326889
btfo, their army blobbed so I dropped naval bombardment onto their heads, killed an entire of my spear levy but it was worth it

>>175325747
No anon, that's the Empire after Chaos invaded.

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>>175327357

>tfw main Chaos force doesn't even get past Kislev

>tfw fell for the lore of metal meme

why is it so bad bros

>>175327952
Because the intern at CA who created the spells didn't understand how the armor system works.

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>tfw no ice queen to feet worship

>>175328747
>ice queen gets put in the game later
>she wont have ice magic

>1000+ kills per battle on my irondrakes verses ratmen hordes

Get grudged thaggoraki.

>>175328842
Ice magic is technically celestial magic.

>>175326594
DEI is pretty good with its latest update.

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>>175328747
>Tfw you will never play as Kislev, the bastion of civilization and the gateway to the Empire, the first and last line of defense against the hordes of hell, until the blood of the last winged Hussar is spilt and your campaign ends with the knowledge that the end times has come but you held the demons of chaos for as long as you could

>>175326889
Fucking hate it when they do that, but clans in FotS will sometimes switch allegiance pre-Realm Divide either when they're hemmed in by allies and want to expand or when the game thinks the player is doing too well and can do with a little betrayal to spice things up.