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Happily Ever After Edition

>Warhammer II
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Pls post campaigns and shit

Previous >>175283574
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First for autism
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>>175413095
second for autistic op image
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>playing shogun 2 as shimazu
>control southern kyushu but cut off from rest of japan by shoni
>they have an xbox huge army with cavalry
>place over half my army on the border to one of their cities
>army patiently waits in the woods for 2 years
>huge shoni army mobilizes to fight the north
>swoop in and siege in two turns
>take castle
>more losses than expected
>panic
>turns out they were all christian rebels
>still at peace with shoni

buddhists btfo jesus wins again
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Daily Reminder that Nagash Was Weak
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>>175412951
who has the best feet in warhammer world? asking for a friend
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>>175413296
>be manlet
>talk shit
>get hit
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75% vamp corruption and those faggot dwarfs are still happy af. 14+ happiness.
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>>175413507
>Implying 90% of the dawi are not underground working hard to shit stomp your vampcuck ass.
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>>175413507
It's not like they have to go outside of their karaks
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>>175413323
CLOVEN ONES!
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>Take Isabella
>Full red line
>Straight down the Bestiary research tree
>Vargeists out the ass

FLY MY PRETTIES
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Maybe I overreacted a little...
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>>175413701
*blocks your path*
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Wood Elves are the comfiest elves
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>>175413824
wow anon you are so good at the game please tell us how you managed to beat that army with your ragtag band of greatswords, halberds, demigryph knights, and ror arty
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What the fuck was his problem?
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>>175413961
KNIFE-EAR FUCKING SHITS!
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>>175413323
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>>175413493
Hows those dusty ass balls taste Skeleman?
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>>175413910

What is it with autists in this general always assuming that anyone that posts a post-battle screen is trying to impress?
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>>175413910

I'M SCARED OF CHARIOTS OK???
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G O B L I N S
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>>175413831
Cannons never seemed that decent to me in TWW. I can have a battery of cannons firing at a giant and they barely scratch it.
Which is ironic because they wreck house in the tabletop.
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>sitting inside walled city waiting for massive besieging army to attack it
>confident that I'll be able to take on the three full stacks when they finally attack
>two more 20 stacks show up out of nowhere, march across the continent in one turn, and join the party
>YOU ARE DEFENDING AGAINST CHAOS
YAMEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>175413831
*Raises Dead*
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>>175413961
>be skink agent
>sent to look after humans
>chaos invade
>suddenly this human emperor starts glowing green
>fucking hammers and drills outta everywhere, man
>confront him
>get btfo
>Mazdamundi gives you an eternal body
>get btfo again
>Mazdamundi is all like "lmao, silly skink, you can't defeat a human who has unlocked the power of the Spiral"
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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FUCKING STUNTIES DIE ALREADY
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>175414292
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>>175414278
Do hardmode and fight in the streets

Walls are for casuals
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Rock the boat!
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>>175414251
They seem to work pretty well for me.

They need a good firing arc.


>>175414292
*Sets them all on fire*
Pssshh.... Nothing personal kid
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>>175414096
GECH YO ASS BACK TO YO ROOM MANNY
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>>175414402
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>>175414251
deploy them in a triangle rather than a line and make little gaps in your battle line for them to shoot through and they do great.
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>>175414251
cannons are good at shooting cav and factions with dense infantry formations like dwarfs or chaos
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>>175414106
If it's not impressive, why post it?
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>>175414292
Raise dead is a skill I always find really meh in campaign but after playing multiplayer as Dawi it triggers me on so many levels.

I'm actually gonna try a build with gyrocopters just so I have some ranged units that can't be tied up by some gay as fuck zombies.
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>>175415371
>gyrocopters
*Casts Vanhal*
*Blocks Your Path*
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>>175415291

To show something humorous, mock """close""" victories, the stupidity of the AI or just to make sure that there's something else than memes and questions about Warhammer lore in the thread.
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>>175415704
>be vargheist
>get shot
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>>175415371
It's awesome in sieges where you can lose whole units often, and chokepoints turn into deathtraps since you can just spawn a flank-attack on a blobbed up enemy.
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>be a grail knigt
>waste best years of your life in search of the grail
>find it
>get a 20% ward save

>be demygriph knigt
>get a cool demygriph bro as a mount
>get better armor
>you general tells you to get 15% less damage
>now you take 15% less damage

How can bretcucks even compete?
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>playing bloody hand
>noarmour noshield army
>AI spams doggo-gobbo bows and hillcamps with a full stack
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Which non legendary lord has the best voice acting?

My vote goes to REIKSGAURD KNIGHTS (gruff version)
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>>175416328
>be demicuck
>get tired after killing a couple wolf riders
>be noble virtuous brettonian knight
>never tire even after slaughtering hundreds if not thousands of empire state troopers
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>>175416328
ill admit the angry chicken mounts are cool. i assume there are mods to give them to their rightful owners? (Bretonnia)
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>>175417006
You forgot to finish

>Gets hit with a cannon because The Empire actually has technology and not just mud farmers.
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>>175417161
>little cannon balls bounces off my face because PRAISE THE LADY
>lance your chicken and eat for a week with all my knight bros while we laugh at starving peasants begging for food
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>>175417372
Ok that was funny.
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>>175417006
>>175417161
>be chicken rider
>be chivalry fag
>get raped to death by endless waves of Norsca-class chariots
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Sickly, sinful spectacles stand, shuffle, shamble and saunter shamelessly in mine scandalised sight.
I suggest a solution...
Surely such sedition should sour and succumb to Sigvald - the salacious, scandalous and sensational servant of Slaanesh.
Son of succubi, scion of sordid acts and slayer of squalid serfs!
See how I stroll, stride, swagger and swirl, spin, slash and stab at stupid senseless scum.
Soon they shall swoon, shall seek solace and death from sundry torments wrought on them by my strategic, severing, scintillating shower of shimmering strikes.
Send for the sword - summon Sliverslash.
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>>175417662
what did he mean by this
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>>175417716
t. clueless Chaos Warrior
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>when you keep trying to fulfil your slayer oath but everything you touch just melts.
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>>175417937
The worst part must be the grim knowledge that, with TW's replenishment system, you will always have a fresh supply of dishonored dwarfs for your slayer corps. Can't settle that grudge, you stunty FUCKS
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>>175417510
>Be dawi
>Nigger chariot race teams racing around my hold
>Shoot them with cannons
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so who is actually the greatest calvary in the old world?

my vote is for the grail knights, the whole being demi god space marines is cool and there is lore of blood knights turning to ash just in their presence
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>>175419030
>grail knights
>chaos knights
>blood knights

are the top tier. In my opinion they should be equal but w/ slight differences to set them apart

>blood knights are faster and have frenzy bc they are vamps (this is already in game + banner of blood keep)
>Grail Knights get ward save bc ze lady (already in game + no fatigue)
>chaos knights get fuckhuge armor, good impact, and option for marks from the various gods (only have armor right now, don't even have bonus vs large)
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>>175419030
I think this fight is a good example of a grail knight in combat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN30YMzja6Y
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>>175419360
Vardis wouldn't be good enough to get into the reiksguard, let alone be a grail knight
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>>175419457
What about Ser Arthur?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UOryLeU86A
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>>175419360
thats fucking retarded. take your got shit somewhere else

grail knight are literal demi gods and could take a fucking dagger to the balls and shit talk your peasant tier weaponry after your blade snaps

you may as well be trying to "wear down" a fucking blood knight vampire or a chaos demon
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>>175419601
>posting the tv bastardization

arthur dayne + dawn would still get btfo by a grail knight, asoiaf doesn't have any equivalent
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>>175419360
> those wide as fuck swings
he might as well have a club, that's awful
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>tfw you beat a tw youtuber in quickbattle

feels good man
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>>175419360
>>175419601

you are literally this guy
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>>175419030
really, it's a toss-up in a lot of ways

tabletop, you can judge some units as objectively better than others by the statlines, but with the RNG of d6s you could have blood knights job to mounted fucking yeomen, or demigryphs break against goblin wolf riders. if i had the codices i could make a good ranking, but off the cuff orge mournfang cav and khorne juggernaughts are absolute nightmares, followed by blood knights and demis, with grail knights at a suspiciously low tier (reason: low model count of 12 max)

lorewise, its anyones fucking guess since each codex talks up itself. grail knights are probably the contender for best in show, since they are much more numerous, active, and favored by the lady. its not that uncommon for grail knights to facetank a cannonball, as stupid a meme as it sounds.
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>>175419890
No. I was going more on that normal people fight dirty as fuck.

Not with >muh honor.
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what warhammer character would twg have sex with if they could
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>>175420169
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>>175419898
>as stupid a meme as it sounds.

UNCHIVALROUS

>>175420042
how many top 10 anime battle ranking videos have you watched in your life?

>>175420169
feet enchantress and have genetically perfect master race son knights
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>>175420169
The lady
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>>175420169
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>>175420473

>the only right answer
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>>175420408
Actually 0.

But I don't think a grail knight would fight dirty which is a disadvantage.

To win with no honor is chivalrous?
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>>175417937
>dawi can buff slayers to be more deadly on the charge than blood knights.
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>>175420767
>PUMP THOSE DWARVEN LEGS
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Don't grail knights have magic and superhuman skills or something?

It's not fair to compare them to normal humans.
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Are Hawk riders decent units?

Their ranged damage seems kind of meh but they do surprisingly well charging shit in melee for their piss poor combat stats.

Do they have aoe attacks or some shit?
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I did it bros, Von Carstein legendary full map clear.
Took me 680 turns here like 480 turns was just eradicating Dwarfs from badlands.
This is just stupid how hard it is to remove them.
Can i have some (you)s pls
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>>175421023
I can't believe there are no doujins aside from the Schierke one, and they only appear at the beginning.
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>>175421186
gj u polish fuck
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where is all the Slaneesh erotica
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>>175421029
yeah, their attacks are also ap so they can do pretty well in melee in a pinch.

>>175421186
how many ror did you have to kill?
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>>175420618
thats like saying you think a chaos cultist peasant will face roll a space marine because the latter isnt going to be willing to use dark magic to win. again you are this guy >>175419890


you may be literally retarded. something is wrong with your reasoning ability
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>>175421186
But did you win?
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>>175421370
I see your point I forgot how powerful grail knights are but they are not unbeatable.
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>>175421370
Solaire isn't pure enough to be a grail knight.
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>>175421382
how can i not win if the map is cleared, anon
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>>175421186

at turn 400 when there was no end in sight how did you continue on
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>>175421352
>how many ror did you have to kill?
a fucking lot.
Dwarves are JUST
>>175421524
Anger about Dwarfs


Also up to turn 183 when i btfod Chaos, i just had Sylvania and nothing else. Those were intense times
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>>175421523
I don't know.

It's just a feeling I have.
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Trying to get back into TW after spending so long with CK2 - does the TATW mod or Shogun 2 have better archers?
There's something oddly satisfying about watching arrows blot out the sun.
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>>175421454
is someone admitting they made a mistake on the internet? shit dude...

>>175421521
what about this guy?
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>>175421352
>ror
Huh?
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>>175421746
I forgot grail knights are super human.

I meant like a normal knight of the realm.
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Turn 331


Am I doomed to norse fags running down south forever and keeping me from expanding?

How do I stop this shit?
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>>175422018
>Am I doomed to norse fags running down south forever and keeping me from expanding?
yes
>How do I stop this shit?
peace treaty during which you send your troops up north to fuck them up
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>>175413701
>Surrender Franz.
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>>175421746
Yes that guy can.
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>>175422190
>Peace treaty
>With chaos fags
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>>175413323
gork

>>175421821
regiments of renown - when fighting dwarfs late game they spam them incessantly due to their instant recruitment/one turn cooldown after getting destroyed. Its retarded and needs to be changed, especially if CA plans on adding more RoR for other factions
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>>175422362
>not deceiving chaos faggots
wew
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Manlett was ded when i subjugated VC but hes back now. How do i unlock him as legendary lord?
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Do all sources of regeneration stack & do they contribute to the hit point replenishment cap / are they capped in any way?
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>>175420169
>not choosing a best elf
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>>175423186
Yes to all
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what is it about quickbattles that attracts this type of person?

>>175423186
if they are different yes, cap is a % of a units total health, theoretically there is no limit to how many sources of regen you can stack, but that will make units hit the cap faster
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>>175423534
>not choosing franz
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Seems franz is in a bit of a pickle.

How will he ever get out of this one?
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>>175423954

by letting towers do all the work
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>>175423954
>rebels attack beasties at the end of the next turn
>franz sallies and finishes off whoever wins

ez
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>the player is technically the rebel faction when starting out as orcs or vc

Woah...
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I'm always so torn for wood elf red skill lines.

Like, the melee buffs are way fucking better for all my armies, even for ranged units buffing their armour + melee attack & defence is more useful than the ranged buffs. But at the same time I really want a eagle lord with 140 speed for memes.

>>175423702
I mean... you were clearly expecting cav heavy and kind of fucked yourself over. If you brought a more balanced list you could've fucked over his lack of mobility severely.
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>>175419280

>chaos "knights"
>greatest chaos warrior in existence gets btfo by a bored orc with an ax he found on the ground
>probably does gay butt stuff too so slaanesh will be happy
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>its a butthurt emp player runs like a fag w/ his unbreakable tank after getting beaten battle
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>>175425070
>fucking over lack of mobility
>with dwarfs

fuck off
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P O S T T H E C H A R T
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>>175420169
Skarsnik
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>>175425816
>>175423702
>lose the main engagement
>only have a steam tank left because for whatever reason its unbreakable
>spend the rest of the battle running away from the enemy so that you can force a draw despite only having 54 health left on your sole remaining unit

I don't know how tw youtubers deal with the autism
>>175425070
>If you brought a more balanced list

gee maybe I was expecting an actual brettonia build which features some infantry and some cavalry instead of a retarded meme build
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will chaos dwarves have access to black orcs? i know most of the black orcs rebelled but do they still have some enslaved?

if so

>tfw main line of black orcs supported by superior dawi-zharr artillery and handguns
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>>175426817
>will chaos dwarves have access to black orcs?

they will probably just have access to slave orc boyz equivalents, having access to another faction's elite-tier infantry is borderline radious
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>>175426996
>>175426817
it will just be a different flavour of black orcs, not a carbon copy of the unit the greeniggers get

like with the giants of the different factions
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>>175427110
I would assume chaos dwarfs would have some sort of hammerer equivalent for elite ap inf, making blorcs redundant. If not modders will do it
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>>175425938
>Lack of mobility means it takes you longer to reach dwarfs that are shooting you in the face

Fucking moron
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>>175427253
would be odd since chorfs are already hurting for units

its like if you said bretonnia wont have knights of the realm because they already have so many knight units and empire already has knights too

chorfs having black orcs is a decently big part of their lore
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BEYOND
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>>175427713
>mad eks: chaos road
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>>175427574
>building a skirmish heavy build vs a faction known for its cav and fliers on the off chance they decide to bring a billion foot squires

what did you mean by this?
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>>175412951
Holy fuck helman ghorst is bad

what the fuck is the point of this legendary lord
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just discovered the pause button. Makes battles so much more pleasant. Now i can spend my time acting as a cameraman in a micheal bay movie and actually use hero abilities and read unit stats n shit
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>>175428901
his raise dead is very strong
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JUST WHO THE KRELL DO YOU THINK I AM?
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>>175428934
Guess that's what I'm missing

I'm just shocked by how he got grilled just so hard in my most recent battle. I know he's low level but shit he just never stood a chance
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Everywhere I turn, games shitshop ruins another thing I enjoy. I suppose I'll continue playing old games hoping they will someday return to roots.
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>>175423702
Thats not such a bad composition, you just needed miners with blasting charges and thunderers. There's also never not a good reason to bring the gob lobber, and it'd be particularly good here. Also why ungrim? He's not even in the consideration for top 3 dwarf lords. Were you going for a slayer meme army and then getting salty when it didn't work?

Foot Squires are by far bretonnia's most efficient tool against dwarfs, so you have to expect a lot of them. What role were the dwarf warriors in your line supposed to play? What did you expect them to fight?

You get bigger memes in the custom match where everyone is terrible at the game.
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>>175429412
They'll never do that, why ever get your hopes up? They are owned by China now, don't forget that.
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I'm going to be dominated by a best elf!
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>tfw no Total War: Middle-Earth/Lord of the Rings

Seeing as there will be no Battle for Middle-Earth III.
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>>175426628
>an actual brettonia build which features some infantry and some cavalry instead of a retarded meme build

Isn't mass-peasant blob the #1 braindead build for Bretts? I'd expect to see a lot of it.
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>>175429684
what the fuck are you talking about

http://www.moddb.com/mods/third-age-total-war

I know Med2 isn't really the best, mechanically, but this does exist, and it's nice. Don't ignore it.
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>>175428901
his campaign abilities are very good, and his cart mount is a combo mortis engine/corpse cart w/ unholy lodeston

>>175429464
I hate miners w/ blasting charges because they always seem to ff or never shoot, and thunderers against brets is dumb because of the cav. I prefer cannons vs brets because they are better vs cav than the gob lobber. Ungrim is useful because of his innate bonus vs large + the bonus vs large from the axe of dargo, which makes him take out the mounted lords/grail reliquae really fucking fast. The dwarf warriors were actually able to beat some of the foot squires thanks to the rune lord support, and would have been fine if they weren't facing fucking 12 of them. They also have charge def against large unlike the ones w/ gw in case of cheeky frontal cav charges

>>175429743
it used to be when half their roster had expert charge def and they had that op as fuck ability on louen. I'd figure most people would go questing knights/foot squires and try to hammer and anvil the dwarfs bc they have no cav, but apparently not
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I want to fuck an elf

Warhammer 2.0 when
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>>175429684

the current owner of the LOTR rights (Christopher tolkien) absolutely fucking HATES what LOTR has become and will absolutely fucking not ever sell the rights again
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>>175430058
How did GW get the rights then?
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>>175430058
tbf I would to after the hobbit trilogy
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>>175430142

that was before chris knew how much of an abomination of his fathers works would become
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>>175394891
I don't know if this guy is still around but SUBJECT two or three of the chaos factions and slaughter the rest. Don't make them vassals subject them. This will make things a lot easier and get rid of some problems I think a lot of people have in the chaos camp. Once you subject them they're your bitches. You can sack and resub them every four turns if you want. Levels up hordes and lords too
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>>175430058
I thought they would try again with that new Beren and Luthién? Or was that just a book?

>>175430152
This desu. I wonder what Christopher Tolkien thinks of the original trilogy. Shit was so cash.
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Fuck sake Grimgor
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>>175429938
>it used to be when half their roster had expert charge def and they had that op as fuck ability on louen.

It's still decent thanks to FE. She's like a bad mortis engine that's mobile and can fight. Throw in a dead knight on a stick and those peasants can outlast a vampire blob.

That said, to be effective they still need some grail guardians.
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>>175430491
I don't know how the AI prioritizes what skills it takes. I think it's completely random, personally, but I don't know that for a fact.
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>>175430416
You mean Subjugate?
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>>175430452
>This desu. I wonder what Christopher Tolkien thinks of the original trilogy

he still hates it for turning lotr into an action series, but I'm sure he doesn't hate it as much as the hobbit trilogy.
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>>175430491
Righ' down t'e bizniz, real propa dat boy iz.
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>>175427925
That was not my army.

I was just calling you a dumbass.
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>>175430887
Top fucking kek
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>>175430617
Yeah that's the word
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>>175430491
>Confederating with Grimgor
>Not kicking his ass and showing him that gobbos > orcs
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>>175431747
I confederated with grimgor as skarsnik, stuck him in a gobbo army, and made him push the battering ram on his own
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So it seems like I get grilled by lords and melee specialists a lot as vampire cunts. Any tips? (Obviously I can bring a melee expert myself to tie them over but surely there are a few other ways)
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I miss the old days sometimes
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>>175432189
>sending grimgor to push the battering ram on his own
>sending grimgor to put up a siege tower for the gobbos on his own
>sending grimgor to set up ladders on his own when you don't have any siege towers
>sending grimgor to go draw fire from enemy artillery in order to waste their ammo on his own
>sending grimgor in vs the enemy cavalry alone so that you can get off a good foot of gork
>sending grimgor to go chop down the gate on his own while the rest of your army hides in the woods

brutally cunning

>>175432623
melee specialist of your own or a lore of death caster. Some vamp monsters like varghulfs/terrorgheists can also lay a smackdown on enemy lords
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>Subjugate Marienburg
>Send them to fight nord niggers in the freezing north

That will teach those faggots.
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>>175429938
>planning [this] much around the cav
At most you are going to see like four units of it, you overcompensated and got shut down really hard.

Thunderers can easily be protected enough to make charging them an unattractive prospect for cav, they are cheaper than most of what they are gunning down in the Bretonnian matchup. One group can go a long way.

Dwarfs lean heavily on a few key regiments of renown to stay competitive. Its basically never not a good idea to take the Grumbling Guard and the Gob-Lobber.
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>>175429938
longbeards with great weapons have charge defense against cav, and do much better against either foot squires or knights than an equivalent points of dwarf warriors.
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>when the bugmans hits
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>>175420169
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>>175429167
Well part of his gimmick is hes a really good support character. Good summon spells, gives army wide poison damage, had some research speed buffs. Other than that hes mega squishy.

And the sad part is hes still better than mister "where is Krell?"
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>>175434130
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>>175435489
>transparent mohawk
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>Tfw don't feel like finishing my current vampire campaign
>kind of just want to restart and not have retarded buildings, or just play a new campaign in general

wat do
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>>175435654
start new campaign as kemmler only using master necromancer lords and wight kings for lords/heroes, and not using any vampires at all, including blood knights
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>>175435563
>transparent stomach
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>>175421746
I'm sorry but Lothar fucked an elf
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>tfw only really enjoy playing dorfs or empire
I can't help but RETAKE THE REALMS
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what are the best unit mods /twg/

I already have kraka drak and southern realms
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It just makes me really sad that everyone dies a horrible death on the End Times

It even makes playing the campaign somewhat pointless after your realize everything got swallowed whole by Chaos
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>chaos kicking my ass
>Bretonnia still spamming peasants into turn 100 and getting eaten by elves
>Dwarfs still fighting greenskins
>deep in the red from raiding and sieges
>fucking Mousillon comes out of nowhere and offers to become my vassal in exchange for a peace treaty
>income does a complete polar reversal
>vampire reinforcements suddenly going northward
BY GHAL MARAZ
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>find out regiments of renown doesnt unlock till your lord is of sufficient rank
>vampire cucks already have a bunch of units

Yo the fucking AI in this game have such an unfair advantage.
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>>175437476
Thats how Warhammer ends? Damn, that's unexpected.
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>>175437476
Your campaign is an alternative timeline.
Avert those End Times, my man.
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>>175437560
Reminds me of a post shortly after TW:WH came out where every AI army was shitting the bed vs. Chaos and fleeing except for Mousillon.
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>>175438027
getting ranks is easy but you have to be proactive with your lords.
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Amethyst order when?
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>>175438027

Just raid your own regions if you need xp so bad.
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>>175438975
It wasn't about me but this nigger kemmler having that shit at rank 6.
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>>175439390

Doesn't matter the level of the individual lord, only the level of the faction's highest lord.
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>people keep calling for wind of death to be nerfed because they cant micro units out of the way

God fucking damn it takes 6 seconds for it to trigger why cant you faggots move faster
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>>175414036
stinky feet
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Who has
>highest IQ
>strongest autism
>most gfs
>most bfs
>best taste in music
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>>175440960
KARL FRANZ
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>>175440960
>Vlad
>Muh slayuh oath
>Franz
>Feet Enchantress and Grail Orbiters
>Lore of Metal man
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>>175440960
>Manny
>Manny
>Manny
>Manny
>Manny
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>>175440960
For WH

>Sarthorael actually, Vlad practically
>GROODGE king
>Sigvald probably
>Sigald definitely
>Isabella probably, most highly cultured
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>>175439013
>wanting the empire to have access to the lore of death now that fate of bjuna and spirit leech are usable again

No!
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What are the best mods for Shogun 2?
Tried to play it vanilla but the battles were too arcadey and RPS for m taste.
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>>175440960
Skarsnik
Manny
Vlad
Sigvald
Grimgor
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>>175440960
Thanquol
Thanquol
Ghorros Warhoof
Archaon
Malekith
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>For the Warhammer™!

Seriously?
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>>175445640
Referring to Ghal Maraz, it makes perfect sense as an Imperial warcry.
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>>175445640
>we make a great Total War: WARHAMMER - The King and the Warlord, don't we, Gobbla?
At that point I just went back to shitposting on /twg/.
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>playing carcassone because muh lady
>confederated every single province except brettonia itself
>brettonia managed to snatch up mareinburg, middenland, hochland, basically everything north of the reik
>won't confederate because they're the most powerful faction in the fucking game
what
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>>175447049
Boris probably called Louen a faggot or something.
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About to start a fresh new Bloody Handz campaign on VH, what should I expect?

Any tips?
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>>175448136
Prepare to get buttfucked. Don't get overzealous with the war with the other orc tribes. Tilea/Estalia/BP will typically declare war on you pretty early, same with the Dwarfs. So be prepared to be contained for a while if that happens.
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>>175419280
>Lance chaos knights with MoK or another frenzy banner with archeon on campaign

They hit hard as hell like this despite their speed, but agreed they don't represent well on multiplayer
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Holy shit who the fuck can seriously play with the elves?
Gas as fuck
Women as warriors (mostly elite units... sure...)

What a waste of money.
Should bought the beastmen dlc.
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>>175421029
Think of them as shock flying calv with some ranged for harassment
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>>175422485
Would really like to see ror go on a couple turn CD after being wiped
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>>175448646
>Women as warriors

This always breaks the immersion even in a fantasy game.
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>>175420169
Deathclaw
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>>175449310
nobody cares about it besides you mysoginist autists
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>>175449310
Norscans believe in valkyries. Most elf units of any kind have mixed sex regiments. Then there's the Brettonian damsels, all those Lahmian vampires, the Amazons from Lustria, and Valkia the Bloody.

Sure, it's not particularly realistic to see so many women in fighting roles, but why are you so bothered by it? It's fantasy.
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>>175449792
>but why are you so bothered by it? It's fantasy.
I can't play with it. Call me misogynist
But i can't take women warriors seriously.
This ruins everything.
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>>175449310
>>175448646
Elves aren't humans 2bh.
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>>175449953
I guess you're just one of those freaks, anon. Don't worry, lots of other folks here are freaks too.
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>>175449953
>Call me misogynist

More like autism
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>>175449953

>Call me misogynist

No Anon, it's just regular old autism
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>>175451426
>>175450115
>>175450037
>autism
Thanks i am relived now but it doesn't change it that because oft that the elves are unplayable.
Thats a pitty
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>Karak Kadrin just camping inthe underway stance inside Sylvania not attacking anything but lowering my vampiric corruption bit by bit

Motherfucker
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>>175450037
Onee-san, I...
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>>175451928
You could say they are undermining your authority
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>Attack Thorgrim while he's in Underway stance
>He retreats across a river where I can't follow him

Okay what the fuck
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>>175427253
there's their Slayer equivalent (Ironsworn?) with Great Weapons that fill that niche
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>>175440960
>Sarthorael
>Mannfred/Archaon
>Karl Franz/Sigvald
>Sigvald
>Wurrzag
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Playing greenskins with SFO

It's been 30 turns and I still only own 1 full province (Black Crag, Iron Rock and the other one)

am I fucked?
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>>175423702
You don't have any right to complain, you composition is fucking trash, dog
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>>175412951
It took me 20 minutes of searching the internet to prove that Attila was not a Mongol. My friends are retarded but I can't say that to their faces because I love them and I'm a retard too.
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>>175453664
Attila was a turk
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>>175449953
Misogyny is discriminating against human women.


When you're finding a whole different species to be bothered by it's just plain old autism coming from the sad wreck of subhuman garbage that your life became when you weren't looking
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TWW2 is just gonna be a separate game from regular TWW right?
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I am so hard right now
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>>175454723

Yes and no.

It can be played entirely separately, but if you own both they essentially combine into one game.
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>>175454978
I believe they also combine for the purposes of automatch even if you only own the first
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>>175438417
ye, Chaos wins.
Archaon fucks up shit
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>>175454723
There are 3 maps. The Old World (if you own 1), The New World (if you own 2) and the Grand campaign if you own both.

The Grand campaign map is both maps combined. This map doesnt have all the features of the New World map like the vortex win conditions, but it does let you play all the factions of 1 and 2 together, as well as all the DLC.
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I started my first playthrough on hard as Empire (only played dwarfs on normal before). How early should I attempt to take Marienburg? I'm 16 turns in and confederated Stirland cause they were getting fucked over by orcs and Von Carsteins. Now Von Carsteins declared war on me, so I have to stay there. Fortunately, Marienburg is the only province with imperial distrust, but they're just camping two stacks on their capital so I have no way to take it at this time.
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>>175454978
>>175455683
damn sweet
skaven when btw
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>>175457167
biggest fault with vermintide is no versus mode with Skaven classes.
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>>175437476
Nice i hate happy ends
Hope they kill everyone or at least make them to slaves
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TELL ME ABOUT OLD FRIEND
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>>175416526
Savage orc arrer boys, problem solved, best part is that when they run out of ammo or get attacked they have some staying power due to frenzy and being savage orcs with physical resistance.
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>>175457470
He's old.
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>>175457804

Krell confirmed.
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>>175421746
Why not post Uther? If anyone has the potential to be a grail knight it'd be him right down to being chivalrous to a fault, only reason why Lothar is a contender is because all the super plain warrior/fighter types in WH are either WoC/Helves or Lizardmen. Arthas never got past being a questing knight.
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>>175454850
Toasty!
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>>175458503
>trying to put WoWshit characters in WHFB

try the aos thread on /tg/
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>>175455683
But some provinces are changed in the combined map.
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>>175458902
>being that salty
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>>175430491
You got everything you need from his blue tree, time to make him army solo-er that he should be as well, best part is you'll never hurt for cash.
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Shields shall be splintered, grown men larping as knights shall be smashed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9McmLqYXfvU
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>>175458902
But it's ok when franz goes super saiyan?
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>>175457804
Not necessarily. We've just known him for a long time.
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>>175459194
>salty
>whfb got a total war game instead of a mindless mmo
>warcraft rts never
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>>175460496
>warcraft rts never
???
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>>175460496
>whfb never got a mmo
>warcraft never got a rts

Bait used to require effort
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>>175460496
you seriously don't think there isn't an rts or mmo ?
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>>175460496
Pretty good bait. You've earned your (You)s (My) friend.
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>>175460595
>>175460659
>>175460728
Obviously meant in recent years, but holy fuck /vg/ gets baited easily
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>>175460910
>saying it's bait means you got baited

I guess you get the usual 2/10 for making me respond, but you should strive to improve yourself
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>>175460496
>whfb got a total war game instead of a mindless mmo
TW:W is literally my dream game
>warcraft rts never
I'm actually having fun playing WoW

Try enjoying multiple things, it's fun
>>
>>175460910
>Eric rusing pretender
Just admit you said something stupid my man
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>>175460910
>I-I was just pretending to be retarded
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>>175461070
I'd keep playing wew for mythic+ if they didn't fuck up the classes THIS badly.
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>>175461080
feel free to misinterpret my post, whatever you're comfortable with.
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>>175460910
pic related
>>175461149
I think I'll drop it for a couple of months again, after I get flying. Gotta take breaks
>>
As much as I love mods and believe mods is what keeps some games alive, it's dumb that you can do the achievements with certain game breaking mods. Someone made a mod that gives you all achievements for free
>>
>>175460595
>>175460659
>>175460728

You should have understood that he meant in recent years, desu.
>>
anyone have the warhammer roll?
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>>175463567
yuh
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>>175463567
Here
0 Franz
1 Franz
2 Franz
3 Franz
4 Franz
5 Franz
6 Franz
7 Franz
8 Franz
9 BALTHASAR GELT
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>>175463863

But I don't want to play Karl Franz!
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>>175463839
rollan
>>
Is SFO worth getting?

Is it actually better than vanilla?

Played 400 hours of vanilla and not sure if I want to try SFO. People say it makes the game better as a whole but most of the reasons they cite seem irrelevant apart from better AI.

I also hear stupid shit about it like wizards and black orcs soloing entire armies.
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>>175464012
But anon, THE NATION CALLS.
>>175464501
no, it's shit
>>
any list of like all the best mods out now? Havent played warhammer since launch and want to jump in now that some mods are complete
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>>175463839
rell
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>>175464741
>>175464501
Actually yeah, I don't think I'll even try it.

I watched the mod page video on SFO wood elves and it makes Wardancer's as fast as Boar boyz...

Does it generally change all units to be faster or something or is this just how silly SFO is?
>>
am I a shitter for playing on vh/n?
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>>175465339
It makes a few infantry units have sanic speed, yeah, most notably wardancers and dismounted vampires.

Vlad has 70 speed in SFO, for instance, he can just haul ass across the battlefield.
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>>175465339
SOF tries to make units as close to lore as possible. So yeah SOF silliness.
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>>175465339
>or is this just how silly SFO is?
Don't even let me start about garrisons in SFO
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>>175464501
Just try it? What's there to lose, aside from maybe a couple hours at worst if you don't like it.
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>>175465683
You're a shitter for your poor taste in women.
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>>175465769
Lore is based on narratives though, not scientific reports on elf anatomy.

The lore might say wardancers are the most agile elves in the entire world, but ruleswise it gives them the same movespeed as every other elf on TT.
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I got the notification for regiments of renown but the button isn't showing up. wat do?
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>About to fight 3 full stacks of Skaeling with 2 balanced full stacks and an upgraded garrison.
>Enemy has fuckloads of marauders, some chaos trolls, warhounds, and horsemen
>Not a single chariot in sight
Comfy, bros. If every norsca fight was like this, I wouldn't autoresolve all of them.
>>
Have anyone good music tips to conquer the world?
>>
Is steel faith worth using when playing as chaos?
>>
>>175467032
your units get MUCH better, but so do garrisons, so balance that out

desu, get the "Warlords of Chaos" mods and the Awaken->Vassal mod
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>>175466773
>Not a single chariot in sight
teach us your secrets
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>>175468239

Just get a recruitment mod to get rid of chariot spam.
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>>175458902
>this picture
this is not whfb /tg/ thread buddy
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Is there a working and updatet "weaker Towers" mod?
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>>175460412
>End Times
It's not, Karl's super sayan was a disgusting asspull, and the tipping point when the End Times went from "this is looking good" to "just fuck my WHFB up senpai"

Usual Ghal Maraz aimbot magic is fine tho
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>>175465771
I actually really like that change.
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>>175463839
I mean I just bought the beastie boys but let's see what the gods think I should play
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>>175465771
the garrisons in SFO are alright. at least for me.
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>>175469746
>being so obsessed and defensive

He went full super-unberogen by literally remembering WE WUZ BARBARIANS while fighting against an orc, long before end times
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>>175470471
Remember to sample every pleasure!
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Who is this supposed to be?
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>>175465683
>am I a shitter for playing on vh/n?
vh/n doesn't exist.

Your a shitter because you don't know how to check the morale of enemy units to see if changing the difficulty settings actually did anything.
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>>175470547
>The Warhammer which the setting is named for is incredibly powerful
Makes you think

I agree tho, Karl's appeal is being just a human with a cool hammer, going WE WUZ BARBARIANS is as bad as the WE WUZ SIGMAR Endtimes shit
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>>175471945
Faggots like you are the reason GW felt the need to push the lol chaos wins button.
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>>175471531

Old friend
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Why Kemmler is a vampire hero? He struck bargain with Chaos gods to come back to his former power.
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>>175463839
alright just got all the dlc

every time I roll this I get the fucking elves and I have to play something else

hope I roll orion but grimgor and skarsnik are fine too, anything but humans
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>>175471945
>>175470547

>not liking the power of CHAD

fuck off. you sound like an IG cuck whos obsessed with out weak and pathetic his faction is and gets off on it

>>175469746
>skub times ever being good at any point at all

what the fuck?
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Hey friends what do you think of SFO? Thinking of playing a steel faith overhaul Greenskins campaign but I never played a vanilla greenskins campaign before.
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>>175472315
Boy, you best take yer fancy "end times canon" elsewhere, we dont cotton to yer kind too much 'round these parts
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>>175472616
hey man, bringing back my boy Nagash could have been an interesting shift from the constant Chaos wanking

It all went downhill from there tho
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>>175472329
Have fun with your Gobbo Archers. :v)
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>>175470787
Fuggen Slaanesh, I already played Brovald twice. If anything I'll play Kholek but I'll just reroll
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>only race I can't win with is dwarfs
>their manlet grudges always make me go to the other side of the map and if I don't it gets progressively worse
Why the fuck should I have to listen to some angsty dwarfs diary to dictate my society?
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>>175472664
I am doing a VH/VH Greenskin campaign with SFO right now and it is pretty fun. I recommend getting some cav fast you so you get the elite dwarf units to chase your cav forever.

Also my strategy of not expanding beyond the three "starting" settlements in the early game and only focusing on sacking works pretty well.

My main region got fully upgraded by the midgame. My income was shit, but I had two elite stacks and one low tier one while having a shit-ton of money
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>>175472908
>End Times
anon, this is straight from my Vampire Counts army book from like 2003

>Heinrich Kemmler ws once a great and much feared Necromancer, until ambitious rivals began to usurp his power. They nearly succeesed in driving Lichemaster to his death and, although he finally managed to beat off his attackers, his body was broken and his mind blasted in the battle. For many years Heinrich wandered the Grey Mountains and the border Princes as little more than a half-sane beggar, until by some quirk of fate he stumbled on the tomb of Krell, a long-dead Chaos warrior. here he struck a terrible pact with the gods of Chaos. They restored him to his former power and, in return, Heinrich swore to slay and destroy in their name.

At least pretend that you know the lore.
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>>175471945
The warhammer had nothing to do with it, it was all due to superior human genes

>>175472616
>assumptions
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>>175473567
Most people bitching at the lore don't know it outside of 1d4chan, /tg/ memes, stereotypes and some tidbits from the most recent books here and there
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>>175473332
Well fuck this rolling business, I hate playing greenskins. Beastmen it is
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>>175473567
oops
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Deep in the World's edge mountains before chaos has even stirred... Some say he's searching for wealth and fortune, others say he is searching for the favour of the Chaos Gods...
All we know is, he's the Stig
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>>175474808
>not a 19-chariot army

not the real Stig
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Can somebody make a mod that adds a dwarf lord with Ghal Maraz and changes Karl Franz's weapon to Ghal Maraz (replica) [common]?
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>>175475090
>dawi players being this mad
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Is 'Defend your world, destroy theirs' the worst' marketing slogan for a game ever? Or are they desperate for those alt-right euros?
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>siegeing Zhufbar
>they've got the garrison plus a fall stack
>decide to starve them out
>they finally start suffering attrition
>as soon as they do, they confederate with the Thorgrim
>~10 turns down the toilet

Quit, deleted save, uninstalled
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>>175475580
"John Romero is going to make you his bitch" is probably worse desu.
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>>175475580
Nah, some old 'nam game had worse stuff
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>get the wood elves dlc
>play a campaign
>upgrade the tree as soon as possible
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Do you think the new Warhammer (so called "Warhammer: Part Two of a Three Part Trilogy") will have an end-game cinematic for each faction? Given the focus of the campaign I would have to assume so! Looking forward to your thoughts.
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>>175475580
it's because each race is on it's own island you belend.

Your world ~ Lustria/Ulthuan/Naggaroth

The slogan makes it seem even more silly that naval battles won't be in the game though.

Will half the battles just be auto-resolves at sea ?
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>>175475580
>not wanting to genocide anything that doesn't align with your peoples views

PRAISE SIGMAR
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>>175475834

yes
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>>175475580
>being triggered by literally everything the post

ITS A FUCKING WAR GAME YOU DUMB NIGGER LOVING KEK FAGGOT
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>>175475834
You ain't from around here, are ya? We don't take kindly to strangers in these parts.
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Should I get the Wood Elves DLC now that some key site has all the Warhammer stuff on sale?

Please tell me how to spend my money, internet.
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>>175476232
Donate it all to houtengeki
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>>175476314
That's a good use of money. I think he's selling a "How to draw" book through amazon.jp.
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>>175475868
Don't like Sigmar. He's a bad role model.
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>>175475580
>literally everything is /pol/
Get a fucking grip, lad.
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>>175476232
Thiccc elves are for rape.
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>>175476721

Tell us something we don't know.
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>>175476905
I would give her headpats and burgers
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>>175475714
>not immediately declaring war on Thorgrim out of spite
Are we playing the same game, anon?
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>>175471678
battle difficulty is locked on legendary retard, it does exist
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>>175476721

Thicc elves are for gentle dominating and making into housewives.
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>>175476721
Thicc elves are for creampies only
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>>175456018
Welp, nevermind, just got owned by Skullsmasherz. Had two armies, but couldn't reinforce cause the AI stacked their armies in a way where the reinforcing army could only attack his reinforcing armies, while my besieged army could only attack his besieging army. At least I took out Von Carstein. Would have taken out Mannlet as well if not for this.
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>>175475714
>I was too scared to attack them and bad things happened :(
shouldn't have been such a pussy Anon
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>>175476905
>search image
>this comes up

https://rp.aryion.com/profile/Slaver_Maya
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>>175476721
Thicc elves are for anal expansion play, actually.
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>>175478096

Attacking two stacks of Dawi, behind walls, would have ended pretty poorly desu
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>>175477213
>what is reading comprehension
read the post again and try and understand what it's actually saying Anon.
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>>175471531
random chaos lord
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>>175475834
I predict that there will be one cinematic for the order factions and one for the destruction factions
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>>175478496
you said vh/n isn't a thing and that's incorrect
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>>175474362
yes, oops
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>>175478616
ok, here's what the post said
>Your a shitter because you don't know how to check the morale of enemy units to see if changing the difficulty settings actually did anything.
what does this imply?

I mean I'll just fucking spell it out for you. The difficulty slider does not work. It's irrelevant that the battle difficulty slider is locked on legendary because it doesn't work anyway.

If you start a VH campaign all armies you face will have the flat +10 morale buff as well as the flat stat buffs that VH difficulty adds.

The only thing changing the difficulty to normal does is take away your own armies -5 morale buff.

The only armies effected by changing the difficulty are rebel armies that pop up because they're newly created factions.
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>>175479115
well that's pretty silly
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>>175478616
>>175479115
and just encase you still don't understand somehow, this means that vh/n doesn't exist because you can't actually change the battle difficulty to normal.

I don't see how so many people still don't know this.
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How the fuck do i deal with the constant barrage of ranged fire as chaos? Those niggers just bombard the shit out of me.
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>On the far side of the skaven, Gotrek was doing the same, or trying to. The Slayer was as angry as Felix had ever seen him, for though he was surrounded by foes, he had no one to fight. The skaven scampered away from him like — well, like rats — and on his short legs he could not close with them. “Stand and fight, vermin!” he raged as he ran backwards and forwards in the centre of an empty circle of sand.
>Felix quickly found himself having the same problem. The skaven were staying behind their spears, prodding at him from a distance, but making no attempt to kill him. He lunged at a cluster of them, but they only parted before him, like water around a stone. He could not understand the behaviour. Skaven either fought with maddened fury or fled. There had never in his experience been anything in between.
>Roaring with frustration, Gotrek gave up trying to close with passing ratmen and charged the back of the skaven line, cutting a hole through it with his axe. He only killed a few, for, as before, they jumped out of his way. The Slayer halted beside Felix, shaking his axe, his crest hanging limp from the pelting rain as he bellowed at their foes. “Craven ratkin! Give me a proper fight!” But they did not. The skaven continued to shy away from them. Gotrek and Felix had almost no enemies facing them at their portion of the line.
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>>175460018
who in their right mind would kill a knight with the prospect of so much ransom money?
>>
reddit rat info when
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Be friends with the undeads :)
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>>175481113

I doubt that people in combat always think rationally.

And would the regular soldier receive any of that money?
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>>175481419
Everyone loves Vlad!
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How do I play undead without getting bored?
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>>175434460
I'm very surprised they went with the skimpy shit for Witch Elves after the very conservative clothing options on the Wardancers. Shame they couldn't make them titty monsters like the vampiresses
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Do you guys think CA and Sega will make other Total Wars in fictional settings, after the success of Warhammer?

What other settings would they use, though? Warhammer was in it's original form made to let the player set up battles, it was a relatively natural fit. I personally can't think of that many other settings with a heavy focus on war. Maybe Warcraft, but I don't know how willing Activision-Blizzard would be.
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>>175432684
>tfw saved that image 4 or 5 years ago.

Time flies.
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>>175482634
GUNDAM
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>>175482634
LOTR

Also they could marry historical and fantasy and do a three kingdoms total war with TWW style lords and shit
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>>175481929
maybe, if their commanding officer or noble or whatever wanted captives to ransom, they might offer rewards for whomever brought one to them
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>>175482796
Agreed, Wars of the Three Kingdoms is exactly what CA should do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wars_of_the_Three_Kingdoms

Can't wait to see Prince Rupert taking on a battallion of pikes all by himself :^)
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>>175482634
Pretty sure Blizzard won't let anyone else make games based on their stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if they already had a team and a prototype for a Warcraft 4X game..
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>>175482796
If they ever merge historical and fantasy I'm going to be mad. We already have enough weeb games shitting all over historical settings by making them 'interesting' with magic and shit, why can't historyfags get the vanilla historical settings they want?
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>>175482946

I smiled
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>>175483021
nobody cares about historical china

congrats a few hundred thousand chinkroaches stabbed each other with pikes
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>>175482946
Irish genocide best campaign
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>>175483021
I would prefer an otherwise accurate historical setting with some fantasy elements to a bland, inaccurate historical setting, which is what CA will probably give us.
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>>175482796

>LOTR

Doesn't Christopher Tolkien fucking hate what pretty much everyone has done with his fathers work, even Jackson? I doubt he'd be willing to let them make anything again using that license.

Then again, Battle for Middle Earth happened, though that might have been part of the movie deal.
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>>175483502
WB have the game licensing deal, which is why shadow of mordor and its sequel is a thing
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>>175483502
He'll die soon and then LOTR will be monetized to hell and back.
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Post comfy formations
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so how the fuck do I counter Chaos Warriors with Undead? I feel like I am getting anal'd by Chosen, fuckers just do not break
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>>175484134
Disney's next target?
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>auto-resolve gives me 5% chance
>win
is this custom build okay?
that's all i can afford.
no matter what i always feel like a shitter.
Glade riders had hagbane tips, Glade guard with Starfire shafts
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>>175485262
I actually hadn't considered that but it's a possibility.

Once Chris dies there's going to be a bidding war. Disney could certainly try.
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>>175485189
Magic and either grave guard (great weapons) or cairn wraiths. Debuff the chosen or just drop damage spells on them to soften them up, and swarm them with AP units or several units of zombies, depending on how much magic you're willing to dump into each unit of chosen.
Either way, make sure you have numbers on them and surround them when you can.
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>>175485290
Is it a build for quick battle?
>no wild riders
>no spell weaver of branchwraith
>eagle instead of hawk riders
>taking non AP infantry vs dwarfs
>taking magic damage missile units vs dwarfs
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>>175481929
The army, or maybe some noble or commander, would give soldiers a reward for bringing in hostages after the battle according to what the hostage might be worth.

Whoever ends with the hostage after that would get the full ransom
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>>175486372
>taking non AP infantry vs dwarfs
i took them for shadow's coil so they could tank dorfs.
Eagle did gud, hawk riders would just be shot off the sky.
>no spell weaver or branchwraith
no money bro, what do you want me to get rid off?
>magic missle
starfire shafts are armour piercing too
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>>175485290
Less war dancers, more spear elves. 4 eg with shield is your core front line.

Wild riders, tree kin and the way watchers are all dope ass units in the roster. Oh and hawk riders, get at least one.
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>>175486974
The ap from starfire doesn't make sense vs. Dwarf magic res. Get the ap physical from waywatchers and rely on tree kin or wild riders to smash dorfs. Eternal guard aren't that bad vs. Dwarfs, they have decent ap.
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>>175485290
You're playing as Argwylon and not using treebros...
>>
Victory in war does not depend entirely upon numbers or mere courage; only skill and discipline will insure it. A handful of men, inured to war, proceed to certain victory, while on the contrary numerous armies of raw and undisciplined troops are but multitudes of men dragged to slaughter.
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>>175487435
well, hitler is there
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>>175486974
Well you're playing vs an auto-generated dwarf army here Anon, the Wardancer's could tank dwarfs because it's an AI opponent who doesn't just shred them to death and hasn't taken any semblance of a decent build.

Try playing vs an actually decent dwarf army that doesn't bring 4 fucking artillery pieces.

Also Hawk riders are better in melee than the eagle.

Are you taking every single ability on Durthu?

He's undercosted as shit if you only take what you need.
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>one of my best stacks of regular units go up against a poopo peepee stack of ungors and minotaurs
>auto resolve 100 percent in my favour
>decide to play anyway because i like big battles
>get completly fucking destroyed.

Wat
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>>175414292
>another vampire

Why does that school suck so much?
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>>175488903
Tell us what happened, maybe we can help.
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>>175420169
Either Isabella, Beste Tsarina, or Morathi.
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>>175488903
NEVER UNDERESTIMATE BEASTMEN HORDES
They will fucking run over you.
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>>175489102
my stack consisted silver chevroned halberdiers, swordsmen, crossbowmen, one hellstorm battery, a general and a champion guy as well as one unit of reiksguard. His of ungor spearmen, two minotaurs, a lord and some archers and hounds, they simply break through my line, routing my troops. Not much in the way of strategy that i could change, might just savescum because i cant afford to loose the stack
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>>175489102
>>175489523
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Soon.
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>>175489552
Minotaurs are honestly incredible units. They're probably one of the best units in the game. You need to destroy them before they hit your lines or they'll just tear through you.
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>>175489552
There's a reason renaissance armies were organized into squares instead of spaghetti lines.
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>>175490024
That guy can't even run anymore due to his height, he just kinda wobbles forward like a fat guy though he's a skeleton.
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>>175489931
woops wrong file
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>>175489931
How does a goblin horde coerce that many trolls into working for them? Wouldn't they just get fucking eaten?
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>>175490216
Ee's brutally kunnin'.
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>>175488270
Can't have a good Tree Hitler without an honour guard of Tree SS!
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>>175490141
Still better than being short.
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>>175490024
poor guy, one push and he'll fall. If he put on some meat he wouldnt be so fragile but then again that would put even more pressure on his joints
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>>175490152
I'm just going to assume you got fucked by dogs. In all my beastmen fights, it's always the hundreds of gay dogs they send around your flank. Back yourself up against a wall or have a melee line in the back.
>>
isn't skarsnik supposed to be 7 foot tall? why is he so small in the game?
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>>175463839
roll
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>>175491792
The Old World Belongs To The TREES
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>>175491792

>A
>FUCKING
>LEAF
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>>175463839

yooo
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>>175491792

Leafensraum now!
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>>175492003
By the comet!
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>>175492502

Bring me to my men!
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>>175463839
new player here, just finished a chaos campaign with archaon on hard and I don't know what to play next

hope I get a fun faction
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>>175490047

They are great, but not the great Beastmeme unit.
Fucking Cygors. Thank his lucky stars the stack didn't have three Cygors. Those supporting the Minotaurs are near impossible. At least you can bring down the Minotaurs with Handgunners behind your Halbs. The halbs will still get demolished, but so will the minotaurs. Cygors? Literally no response to them other than having the worst arty (Great Cannons) or overloading your stack with Outriders (Which you need to first kill all their archers with xbowmen)
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>>175463839
ass
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>>175418280
The Dawi's code of honor is insane, unforgiving, and disproportionate.

There will always be more Slayers.
>>
which map pack is better? Grand Custom Campaign Maps or Ultimate Minor Settlements
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>>175494840
anyone?
>>
so what would make gyrocopters/bombers less shit?

No matter if I play vanilla or one of the many combat overhaul mods, copters are ALWAYS shit and always go unused.

How would YOU make them better? Faster RoF? More damage? More per unit?
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>>175494840

Ultimate Mirnor Setrtlements

Grand Custom Campaign Maps is gay and most of the maps it adds are shit that the AI can't navigate properly.
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>>175494840

I just installed Ultimate Minor Settlements pack, it looks to be the better of the two imho
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>>175496527
Gyrocopters are really easy to get a hundred kills with at least, and unless it's a flying spam army they're pretty much untouchable
Bombers might benefit from additional bombs
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>>175494840
Grand Custom Campaign Maps is good but the maps arent really designed for the campaign, they're better for custom/multiplayer stuff
Ultimate Minor is the way to go
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Goblin Dabbing
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Am i fucked lads? My reinforcements are just some ruined garrison troops and his is a full stack with isabella. Chaos is sieging hergig to the north, and skarsnik and beastmen are running around for my unprotected settlements. I think ill loose the campaign if i am destroyed here
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>>175498074
snipe lords so army curmbles, don't see any other chance.
It's not about skill, they will just flood you
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>>175497567

How are you using them then? Every time I try to use them they get less than 100 kills every battle
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>>175498384
the two bombs on infantry blobs (requires decent micro or at least more inputs because you need to position them over units without telling them to attack it, so you need to drag them into place instead)
and then spend the gun ammo on shooting infantry in the back, focusing down large targets, or getting rid of something like a hellcannon
Most of the kills come from the bombs though
>>
Playing Empire feels a lot like playing Angrund. Make friends with everyone and beg for cash. I could sure use some +relations techs, though.
>>
>>175498074
>not removing Von Carsteins in the first 20 turns
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>>175498036
bad gimmick
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>>175463839
rollan
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>>175499480
its very hard, i had a hard enough time just handling skarsnik, sudden beastmen rapestacks and other empire factions betraying me
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Giving AP to the Ironbreakers would most likely make them the absolute best infantry in the game.

Fuckers are insane
>>
Legendary Greenskin campaign is AIDS. The Dwarfs have all legendary lords by turn 30 and start shitting stacks everywhere.
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>>175500923
that's a big guy (for a dwarf)
>>
>>175500923

Are all Dwarfs morbidly obese or is it just muscle
>>
>>175500923
the dorfs used to have ironbreakers as their regular run of the mill infantry before the age of strife. Every single warrior would be clad top to toe in runesmith armor and weapons that only lords have right now. But then when the slann decided to cause some little earthquakes here and there during the cataclysm of the demonic invasions their entire empire collapsed and everything went to shiet. I would hold a grudge too, if i was a dorf
>>
Hello, never played a Total War game before, just got a copy. Which Roman faction is the best for my first campaign?
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>>175502623

Rome 1? Julii or Brutii.

Don't know about Rome 2.
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>>175502623
Rome 1 or 2?
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>>175502756
>>175502773
Attila.
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>>175502862

Franks
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>>175502623
>never played a Total War game before
>play Attila
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>>175502321

its muscle. not even lying.

Dwarfs are like tiny balls of condensed muscle
>>
Anyone have that old TWW guide to heroes/lords that used to be in the pastebin? I know it's outdated but I need it for something.
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Where do you guys usually put your artillery in defensive sieges? It always seems tricky with the walls and buildings.
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>>175502945
But Franks aren't Romans.

>>175503098
What's Wrong with Attila?
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>>175502351
Is it me or does this sound exactly like the humans from 40K? The whole Dark Age of Technology deal in which they were at the pinnacle of the galaxy or some shit but then fell from grace after the Men of Iron fucked them over
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>>175503270
Mortars in the town center targeting blobs on the walls and streets, Hellstorms facing down a street to hit stuff at the other end. Cannons are pretty much useless on defense.
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the fuck is up with the launcher lately?

whenever I install a new mod now, it'll cause the launcher to not work, then when I close the launcher it fucks up steam and I have to restart it
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>>175504046
The launcher has always been a piece of shit.
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>>175501430
Try Chaos. By turn 10 Kislev has 4 and a half stacks that know where you are at all times
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>>175419847
Who?
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>>175504695
I find it annoying how chaos doesn't have an ambush stance
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are there any mods that adds formations to the default melee/missile front? I am too lazy to set shit up every game
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>>175504995
The lack of ambush is pretty shitty. Chaos just has whack ass mechanics.

The campaign is a chore.
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>>175503605
the "fallen empire" cliche is a bit overused yes, but its what makes it so grimdark
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>>175505098
Campaign is a chore and the cost of the units make them ass in mp
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>>175454212
Attila was a Hun
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stumbled upon this gem buried in my folders.
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>>175453664
The Huns being of mongol origin is a theory that's a bit popular but still unproven.

They do have similar cultural traits and there was a tribe of mongolians that split and started heading west, eventually settling in central asia and the theory is the Huns came from them.
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What have I done
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>>175507174
>blessedbytzeentch.jpg

Nothing wrong at all,
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>>175503491
It's the one with the most tricky campaign map
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>>175507174
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>>175507310
>>175507816
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>>175507693
Eh, it should be fine. The Romans, on further inspection, seem a little difficult for a new player to manage, so I'm going to try Saxons first.
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>>175507895
Just as planned, Tzeentch is indeed pleased with you. Now faf about in forced march in the badlands playing benny hill music as armies chase yours around.
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>>175449498
more please
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>>175507174
>>175507895
>chaos chariots (lord of change) (lances and bardong) (blessing of the lady) (good against infantry)
Truly The End Times™
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>>175509684
(does not actually have an anti-infantry bonus despite the description saying it's Good Against Infantry)

That's my favorite meme.
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Heavy Chariot Infantry
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>"pyrrhic" victory

i beat back 4 fucking doomstacks with a garrison.
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>>175509684
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>>175512132
>Old Grumblers

hue
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>>175511351
>Chaos Demigryph Heavy Chariot Infantry (Halberds) (Shields)
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>>175512132
By Sigmar, No!
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>>175512132
where can i download this new lore friendly unit mod by radious
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>>175506359
Oh wow, so many memories.

I miss gook.
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>>175512132
(unloreful)
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>>175511373
Pyrrhic victories are still victories dude.

They only cost Pyrrhus 'cause he couldn't replenish his losses
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>>175512132
Upload it on the workshop and call it a Radious inspired mod.
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>hitting a vc player with a scroll of leeching

TRY RAISING 100 ZOMBIES ON MY ARCHERS NOW YOU FUCKING UNDEAD BASTARD
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2000 - Shogun Total War
2001 - Mongol Invasion
2002 - Medieval
2003 - Viking Invasion
2004 - Rome
2005 - Barbarian Invasion
2006 - Alexander
2007 - Medieval II
2008 - Kingdoms
2009 - Empire
2010 - Napoleon
2011 - Shogun 2
2012 - Fall of Samurai
2013 - Rome II
2014 - Emperor Edition (Augustus campaign)
2015 - Attila
2016 - literally fucking nothing
2017 - literally fucking nothing
2018 - literally fucking nothing
2019 - m-m-muh maybe we will release something in 2019, but who knows lol

>M-M-MUH WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TEAMS
>WE HAVE LE FANTASY MEME TEAM WORKING ON THE GAME FOR KIDS WHILE AT THE SAME TIME PROPER HISTORICAL TEAM WORKS ON THEIR GAME

YOU LIED TO US CA
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>>175515234
>trying this hard to stir shit
fuck off to /v/ NiGgEr
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>>175515234
>he doesn't enjoy both fantasy and historical

easiest way to spot a pleb
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>>175515234
mmmmmmmmmmmmm thats a delicious butthurt
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>>175515234
You got sixteen historical games IN A ROW over the course of two decades, and you really have the balls to complain? Fantasyfags have been waiting for longer than you've been alive, and now that CA is finally back to its roots you really think your shitposting is justified?

You come off as an entitled child. Go play your seventeen historical games and let fantasyfags get their one (1) title.
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>>175515234
>histbabby yuropoor shitskins from twc with 6k posts are THIS mad
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>>175463839
X
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explain this:

>first total war engine
>used for 4 years in 2 main titles (Shogun/Medieval)

>second engine
>used for 5 years in 2 main titles (Rome/M2)

>third engine (Warscape)
>used for 8 years in 6 titles and the 7th title (WH2) is still going to be on Warscape

why not create engine worthy of current pc generation and only remaster Warscape again and again?
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>>175512132
friggin' Radious
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>>175496527
More ammo is all they really need. They fulfil their role pretty well but they run out of ammo really fast whenever I use them.
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>>175515906
>kills 11
>lost 13
What?
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>>175516572
>friendly fire
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>>175516748
Can a unit friendly fire on itself?
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>>175515906
I thought they were working on a new engine now
Warscape unit collision sucks ass
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>>175516572
I just ran around my fort with the cavalry unit until infinite-ammo-towers destroyed the entire fucking army
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>>175516857
technically, yes

Very rarely happens with ranged mounted units
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>>175496527
they are honestly fine as is right now, in multiplayer they definitely have their uses. In Campaign however they are less effective compared to the other options you can get, and should get more tech bonuses/better lord bonuses
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will ae, 1212ad, old friend, or bannerlord ever be released?
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>>175516857
>>175517294
the towers killed them
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>he wants another historical tw game
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>>175517658
Wouldn't mind Pike and Shot desu
None of that gook shit or 20th century tho
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>>175517658
>he doesn't
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Do you think TW2 will still have plain ass maps? Because if they don't build the ai to play around better maps, then there's no point in mods adding good ones in
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>>175517658
Total War: Bren vs Spandau
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>>175518601
>plain ass maps

given that tw2 is going to focus on lustria, I hope you are ready for map after map of dense jungle where you cant see shit
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>>175518957
Don't worry, we'll still have flat plains in the Southlands - complete with gorgeous pyramids and breathtaking mountains outside of the battlemap.
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Bought Beastmen on friday before I went away, gonna try them out when I get home tomorrow, which lord is best? And any general tips or essential mods?
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>>175519847
kazhrak - minos and gorebulls are your best units
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Hey guys, according the lore, who would win in a duel, Sigvald or Karl Franz and why?
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>>175521042
Sigvald if Karl was his normal self
Karl if he was being empowered by Sigmar
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>>175519445
>Play TWW for the first time
>See the Abbey of La Maisontaal in the map list
>Oh shit, maybe I can reenact Terror of the Lichemaster with Kemmler
>Turns out it's a shitty generic forest map
>and the Abbey itself is in the background
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>>175521042
If Karl has Ghal Maraz, Karl wins
If Karl is riding Deathclaw, Karl wins
If it's a straight duel with mundane weapons, Sigvald wins
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>>175521519
>TWW maps in a nutshell
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>>175519847
Kazhrak for a straightforward melee option
Morghur for a borderline broken Lord (but with more expensive Minotaurs, which is bad)
Malagor if you want to use a caster without being memed by Cygors slapping your shamans :^)

Kazhrak is best, their campaign is hordes done right, for tips, remember to abuse the fuck out of the Hidden Encampment stance and Minotaurs/Gorebulls are the objective best part of the DLC, use them
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>>175463839
Roll
Maybe I'll get past 40 turns this time.
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>>175522025
Fuck's sake. I just got ruined by dwarfs as GS not even 20 hours ago, but clearly fate wants me to stick with it.
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>>175522012
>memed by Cygors
You better keep a spare bray shaman or three ready if you want to actually have one in a battle ;^)
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So, I have a friend trying out the wood elves as his first faction (Ignoring advice from me and a couple other friends to trying out something else first), and since he likes to cheese, he was trying to use full armies of ranged/flying units, like hawk riders, against armies stuck on the ground.

He was complaining that his units were routing for no reason, like, the armies on the ground couldn't hit him or anything, but the hawk riders would bail anyway. He was claiming it was probably some kind of arbitrary rule that units would just bail if there weren't any ground units in your army.

Was he full of bullshit, or what? I can't tell you who he was fighting or anything like that, but he's 100+ turns in and confederated at least one or two of the other elf factions.
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>>175522660
If your army has zero units on the ground, flying units will suffer a constant morale drain until one of them enters melee combat

The "with no units on the ground, your army loses morale!" message kinda gives it away
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>>175463839
halp
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>>175522660
Its true, armies in tww need units on the ground otherwise all fliers will suffer leadership drain until they either land and attack or rout
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>>175515371
truly master race
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>>175522836
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>>175522835
Oh, cool, then he's retarded. He probably didn't see the message or some shit. I'd bet he turned off the advisor because he thinks he can figure all of it out for himself. Appreciate it.
>>
Digging around in the pack file manager and I think I've found out why Warhawks are really good in melee despite their slightly mediocre stats - they deal more splash damage than most monsters even though they have double the unit size.
>>175522660
Yeah, the moment you have no ground units the game pops up a message that literally tells you that if you don't land & fight you will loose the battle.

Your friend must have been blind not to see it.
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how do I git gud at multiplayer
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>>175522836
>>175522945
how do I play with fightiness/primal rage meter
if I lose a battle then my army's fucked
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>>175522974
>learn builds
>learn the strength of each factions
>learn builds for whatever faction you have chosen that counters whatever faction the enemy has chosen
>learn what spells are good/likely to be brought
>get gud at micro
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WRONGED US
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>>175523086
Constant raiding stance. Even in your own lands if you have to. Crush rebellions if and when they pop up to get obedience back up fast and maintain fightiness.
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>>175523291
>>learn builds
>>learn the strength of each factions
where?
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>>175523918
thru experience or watching other people's mp battles
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>>175523518

Am I the only one here thats started creating my own grudgebook, about all the people that have wronged me?
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>>175523918
People post a fair bit about such topics on this general
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REEEEEEE I WANT TO SLAUGHTER THAGGORAKI
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>>175523918

if only there were people with collections of videos that showed them playing multiplayer battles,
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>>175524621
yes
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>>175524817
new balance shoes :D
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>>175524812
who
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Is there an MMR rating for quick battle or is it just completely random?
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>>175525009
What's wrong with New Balance shoes? No other running shoes even fit me properly.
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>>175525009
>not asics
>>175525541
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>>175512132
>Bardong
what
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>>175525815
So disliking New Balance shoes are a meme or something? It's not my fault they are comfortable and are easily available in Wide sizes.
>>
I don't have beastmen dlc but apparently centigors with great weapons have splash damage, is this true?
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Why are steam tanks unbreakable?
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>Chaos sieging my city
>complete lost cause, just waiting for the inevitable
>siege and raiding causes such a public order drop that Chaos Rebels appear
>instead of helping the attackers, the Chaos Rebels go on a crusade to wipe out all the actual Chaos forces in the province while the city recovers and builds up its garrison
What?
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>>175526483
just as planned
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>>175526261
beastmen are more human than beast imo
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>>175526398
You can't make a tank run away, you can only break it.

That said they really need to reserve unbreakable for Slayers & Flagellant types and just give mechanical units really high LD instead.

Having a hellcannon be unbreakable just because it is on tabletop is stupid because there's no fucking way the crew wouldn't shatter if the entire army fucked off the battlefield.
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>>175526631
Of course they could have actually made the Hellcannon accurate to tabletop and have it be a raging daemon-machine trying to break out of its chains and start mauling the closest living thing except for the efforts of its Chaos Dwarf managers.
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>>175527473
> When this unit breaks, it explodes into a screaming pile of metal and rage
I'd dig it
>>
How many ungor fucking shits could one unit of greatswords take on at once? What is the maximum before they're hopelessly overrun?
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>>175528097
I guess three Ungors would be able to flank and rear charge the Greatswords.
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>>175525862
Read >>175509684
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>empire
>very hard, why not
>start game
>kill secessionist
>go to next rebel town
>beastmen appear and raze first town with no warning
>??? ok
>fight secessionist full stack (that he somehow funded) on turn 5
>take town with heavy casualties
>orc full stack appears, having ran past two other human cities to get here
>sure.
>leave to recover casualties
>2nd beastmen army comes in from brettonia and razes town in a single turn, no warning, after having presumably ran past several bretton towns to get there
>go back to capital
>another secessionist full stack appears and runs alongside the greenskins to siege capital
>beastmen hiding all over, now both have full stacks
>its turn 12 and there are four full stack armies roaming around my single province, I am making 93 gold per turn, and can only field a single full army of shit tier starting units and some crossbows.

By Sigmar, No!
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>tfw heroic victory because my gobbos got stuck in a pillar
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>Carcassone legendary campaign
>Bretonnia united by turn 65
How am i doing guys?
I hope to prepare well for the Chaosfags
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>>175529475
SCHEMES
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>>175524621
>13 grudges why
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>>175529475
>Hexwraiths can ride right through mountains
>but can't slap these two malnourished fungus-children inside a pillar

I'll wager Nagash is to blame for this
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>fots
>declare war on sado (or whatever it called, the isolationist faction on a little island)
>disembark my army, check garrison detail: only 3 generals and 4 line infantries
>hit next turn
>check garrison again, they now have 2 parrot guns and fill the rest of their army slots with modern infantry and cavalry
Aight, can't have the legit tw experience without AI pulling units of its fucking ass
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Gors in shock after their first encounter with the undead.
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>close victory
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>>175530834
except for grail guardians, your units are pretty superior desu
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>>175528948
Fell into the same struggle. Take Grunburg, wait a few turns, then go toward Eilhart. One Successionist stack will fuck off toward it, usually the big one, leaving Helmgart for the taking. Then you can go back up to Eilhart and set yourself in Ambush stance for the orcs, then you take Eilhart, then you go to Grung Zint and raze the city to the ground. I had to restart my Gelt campaign twice because of that bullshit, though I never faced any Beastmeme issues.
>>
out of medieval kingdoms, ancient empires, and rise of mordor, which is the most NEVER EVER of attila mods?
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>>175530949
the point is that the battle wasn't close at all
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>>175531146
rise of mordor is in a tier of its own for having a team to autistic to realize that any efforts they make are a complete fucking waste of time

other than that, probably ae
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>>175475580
>you will never be this obsessed
>>
Is Turin /ourguy/?
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>>175532432
TURIN TURAMBAR?
THE SON OF HURIN THE STEADFAST?
THE DRAGONHELM OF DOR LOMIN?
THE SLAYER OF GLAURUNG?
literally everyone's guy
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>>175521519
The frustrating thing is that the backdrops are actually quite beautiful and well-done - Brettonian cities are nothing short of gorgeous.

It's just a shame that I can't, you know.

Fight in them.
>>
positive dorfs
negative empire
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>>175533802
wew, meant even and odd
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>>175531148
The game doesn't count Bretonnian peasant deaths when calculating the type of victory or loss. I once got a heroic victory against one chaos stack because with the exception of my 2 lords and 3 mounted heroes who survived my armies were entirely peasants even though they pretty much all died.
>>
regular orc boar boyz are starting to grow on me

>bring boar boyz
>bait enemy cav into attacking them
>stomp em' w/ foot of gork

Whats the point of bringing the more expensive big un versions if you're just going to foot the cav engagements?

>>175533940
the victory calcs seem fucked after the bret update for whatever reason
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>>175530834
There's no reason to ever bring spears vs dwarfs

Are you the same dwarf with the suboptimal army from yesterday? This one is much better, although
>engineer
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>>175535308
are you retarded
>>
>>175533940
>The game doesn't count Bretonnian peasant deaths when calculating the type of victory or loss.

Fantastic.
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>>175535308
>Are you the same dwarf with the suboptimal army from yesterday?

yeah - the polearms he brought actually have ap so can be useful vs armored stuff. I brought the engi bc it was a map where it looked like I could set up arty on a ridge (kelp and koldust), but it didn't work out that way. Engis can also bring the rune of slowness (-8ma/-4%charge) and the banner of lost holds (+12%weapondmg), both of which are 40m radius buffs/debuffs
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>>175503247
Anyone?
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>>175533940
>The game doesn't count Bretonnian peasant deaths when calculating the type of victory or loss.
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Are Dark Elves Chaos worshipers or just inadvertent Chaos worshipers?
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>>175463839
THEY HAVE ROLLED US!
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>>175463839
My last class for the semester is tomorrow. Who should I play when I get home?
>>
>>175463839
Rowl
>>
>>175536013

By the comet!
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>>175536225
Fuck that I just beat grimmy's campaign, reroll
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>>175536013
Perfect. Time to settle some grudges!
>>
When all the elves amalgamated in Athel Loren what do you think the dark elves did to satiate their rapey urges?
>>
>>175532827
He's a bit of a degenerate innit?
>>
>>175536328
OH COME THE FUCK ON
>>
>>175536404
they didn't have to do anything, the reveal of malekith as the rightful phoenix king had already raped the lore enough for them
>>
>>175536328
>gobbo archers
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>>175533940
Do they have the expendable trait?
Does this count for zombies and gobbos?
>>
>>175536903
I started an azhag campaign and while I'm not deliberately trying to kill my starting goblin archers, the fuckers just won't die on their own
>>
how do i get rich in under 10 simple steps as vlad?
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>>175485290
for quick battle against dwarfs this looks like garbage t b h

Starfire shafts are hideously cost inefficient against dwarfs. Just longbeards and quarrellers a lone are something your army can't really deal with, dwarf player doesnt have to go fancy at all and they usually don't vs elves

Wood Elves vs Dwarfs is such a terrible matchup that im not sure why you'd play it though
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>>175535941
Dark Elves worship the elven gods with a bit of slaanesh thrown in.
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>>175537820
RAID
RAID
RAID YOU STUPID FUCKS
THE DWARVES ARE RIGHT THERE
BORDER PRINCES RIGHT THERE
ORCS RIGHT THERE
RAID RAID RAID
>>
>>175535627
engineer can be okay, but its easy for his firing to be obstructed
Even when you're running a runelord, a secondary runesmith can add a ton of value to your army. The master rune of wrath and ruin is especially slow so its nice to have one that isnt always on cooldown for less major targets, like the questing knights or foot squires

Polearms can be useful against armored stuff, sure, but nowhere near as effective as just massing foot squires

>>175535440
What seems to be the problem officer?
>>
>>175537375
I thought the goblin archers were good? I mean not good, but good for their price and better than arrer boyz?
>>
>>175538736
its a meme - most lords have elite starting units highlighted on their campaign screen (grimgor gets black orcs, franz gets reiksguard, vlad gets blood knights), but azhag doesn't get any elite starting units so one of the units highlighted on his screen is the infamous goblin archer, which is one of the cheapest units in the greenskin roster
>>
>>175538585
but the midgets are so broke they cant afford their own tuition let alone mine. the border princes arent even real haha and the orcs are a country mile away. also raiding is real rude
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>>175529993
>I'll wager Nagash is to blame for this
NAGASH IS WEAK!!
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>>175539079
Kill Them
Raise Them
Raid Them
>>
So, for those of us who haven't played or seen how Empire's played at all, can someone explain how TWW2 & TWW1 are going to work together?
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>chosen aren't immune to psychology

what the fuck
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>>175540413
Heretics not so tough after being raped by giant chickens
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>>175540104
Warhammer 2 is going to be a seperate release with its own map and campaign.

A few weeks after release there's going to be a patch. In this patch, if you have the first game you'll have access to a combined world map with some shit trimmed off and some small factions removed probably.

It's not going to be the same way Empire was done probably.
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Why is Empire the best, most recent game, in the TW series?
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>>175541229
>A few weeks

I'm betting it takes longer despite their "weeks not months" promise
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>>175522012
Wait the Beastmen have infighting during battle?
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>>175541386
I thought the same but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Warhammer hasn't been a fuck up this far.
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Working on a anti-brettonia build as chaos for shits and giggles, and need advice on what lord to be using. Right now I like kholek bc he can burst through lines and fuck up casters and reliquae, but he is prone to getting ganked by flying squads.

And to explain the build a little
>forsaken roflstomp all bret inf except footsquires
>trolls handle any footsquires
>chosen are there for anti large and protecting the death sorcerer/lord from cav
>hounds are there for archers and killing routing peasants, can also keep lords grounded in a pinch

>>175541391
assuming you are referring to his statement about cygors, there is a common event that happens to any beastmen caster where a cygor will wound them for a few turns, similar to over-gyrating shamans for orcs or warp shenanigans with chaos sorcerers. This doesn't happen to malagor because he is a lord
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>>175541373
FoTS is the most recent, taking place in the 1940s
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>>175544163
What? Boshin War is late 1860s, anon.
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>>175541790
I really like your build, although I wonder if the chosen with halberds aren't overkill. Do you not have any morale problems with the trolls? Archaeon's crown of command makes them a lot more stable in the front line. and the flaming sword adds magic attacks that negate the physical resistance of royal pegasus/grail guardians/grail knights. The damage buff is also very useful, just don't cast it on anything fighting the Fay Enchantress because of her huge magic resist.

Is it really worth bringing the armored trolls when their purpose is to deal with anti-armor infantry? It'd be a bit more micro and make them less flexible, but if you pinched those pennies you'd just be 100 short of a group of aspiring champions, which could encourage the trolls and provide good AOE against non-footsquire infantry.

If getting ganked by flying doom squads is your concern, Sigvald is extremely resilient to it and is a very cheap choice that lets you go a little wider. Archaeon on foot is respectable too just because he spends so much time on his ass when he is dived from the air and so isnt constantly taking damage like Kholek might.

Since you only need one hound with poison to debuff, we're able to take a wider army that looks like this. I do worry that without Kholek we may be weakening our anti-large too much, but if you save a fate of bjuna for whatever his critical elite cavalry is it shouldn't be too bad.
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>>175544163
1940s is ww2 man
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>>175544813
I typically keep the formation nice and tight, so the trolls don't usually have problems unless they get spread out. The reason I take the armored trolls is so they have some protection against missiles, which can be a problem vs brets. I was thinking about sigvald but the big problem with him is that fay enchantress builds like to kite after their main line gets btfo, and you need a lord/character to be able to run her down to stop the mortis engine effect from bleeding you. Archaon seems too expensive considering I find myself spending all my WoM fate of bjuna-ing any problematic cav not engaged w/ the halberds. The chosen halberds also have much better melee def as well as an additional 10 bonus vs large compared to the regular ones. And sometimes the hounds will get split up, so I like to have both w/ the poison just in case.

I'm thinking that if I just go with a sorcerer lord on a barded steed, and use the money saved to get some more anti-cav in the form of dragon ogres, I might avoid some of the problems. The Drogres can guard the lord alongside the halberds, and can deal with bret cav especially if the hounds can debuff and the lord can get a FoB off. I would miss out on arcane conduit, and not having a second lord/hero could cause problems w/ the trolls, but if I switch to unarmored trolls and downgrade the drogres to knights, I can get a exalted hero w/ funds for chevrons

will keep in mind and test later, thanks anon
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>>175544163
>1940s

It's really a wonder the Japanese were able to fight the Americans across the Pacific while suffering a serious civil war at home.
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>>175544163
>armstrong guns firing a sneak barrage on pearl harbor all the way across the pacific
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Why the fuck don't they list which units are large? They say if its the size of a horse or bigger then its large, that's fine for the historical total wars but not warhammer. Like are orc boar boyz large? A boar is smaller than a horse obviously, but theres an orc on him. Am I supposed to do independent research of orc size (slouched or unslouched)? shits fucking retrarded
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WRONGED US
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>>175546924
You're just retarded. Seriously use common fucking sense.

Large Cavalry counts as large. So not things like wolves or spiders. And anything, yknow, fucking large. Spiders, Giants, Trolls.
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what are aspiring champions good for
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>Karl Franz (Grenade Launcher)
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>>175547478
Fucking up ethereal units and keeping leadership high among your weaker infantry.
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>>175547276
In a game based on counters its pretty fucking important. No shit giants and trolls are large dumbass. wolf calvary are smaller than horses, but soar are orcs on boars. An orc isn't much bigger than a human. So its very arbitrary when it shouldn't be. They could atleast add in the wiki or some shit
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>>175547515
>Corpse Wagon Mannfred von Carstein
>Fast (for a mannlet)
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>>175547684
The larger than a horse thing is just a rule of thumb to give you an idea of what you should be lookin for rather than a hard coded rule based on the dimensions of the horse and rider models.

Yes, boar boyz are going to count as large.
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>>175547478
magical damage and encourage aura. They were really more for buffing chaos in mp, same with the horsemasters.
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>>175518956
>He wants a total war game when the outcome is decided from the very beginning
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>>175547867
that's every total war game for me breh
only ones i've seemed to get a decently long campaign going on are third age, empire bogan 2 and pic related.
i really can't get into the campaign for WHTW but i think the combat and units are brilliant. ironically i thought it would be opposite.
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What are your tips for playing legendary mode in Warhammer TW?

In particular I have a really hard time playing as vampires because they get attacked from all directions pretty much non stop.
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>>175548005
Warhammer campaigns are pretty short but it does mean I actually finish them most of the time, as opposed to the other games where I almost always quit when I'm 70-80% done
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>>175521042
Sigvald killed Krell with his bare hands, is it any wonder who the most magnificent of them all is?
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>>175548202
He was also killed and pissed on by troll.
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night /twg/
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>31 turns into aizu traditional
>3 enemy full stack armies on my territory
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>>175549129
fots is really hard
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>>175549193
if you're not using cannons yeah
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>>175549193
campaign wise. battles aren't so bad
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>>175463839
roll
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>>175463839
Roll for the Roll god!
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>>175548202
Krell knew if he spent too much time around Sigvald he'd notice Krell is far more fashionable than he could ever hope to be so he threw the fight. Nobody wants to see a preening weenie cry.
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How do I bretonnia? Besides yelling ZEE LADY really often.
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>>175548108
I think what turns me off is the fact that it's basically a guarantee that my endgame enemy will be the same fucking faction.
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>>175549713
you don't even need peasants at all like any of them.
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d
>>
e
>>
Pontus
>>
d
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This week?
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>vh empire
>finally made it out of the first 20 turns without getting buttfucked
>even managed to vassalize a couple clowns who war dec'd me early
>think everything is going great
>economy finally taking off
>got 3 "decent" armies and franz is godmode on his griffon already
>finally putting up higher tech shops in the main city
>game decides I'm having way too much fun
>both dwarves that have been fighting goblins unsuccessfully all game declare war on me, the empire that is also fighting goblins and orcs
>leave their zones that are being camped by goblin stacks, to come and casually raze the cities of their only ally
>fuck off using their tunnel bullshit the moment I try to respond
>obliterate my economy, since I stupidly assumed it would be safe to build up my home province protected by my close allys against the greenskins and chaos, the fucking dwarves
>right on cue, the moment the tip slips in, every faggot border nation starts war decing one after another to jump on the rape train
>even though the chaos invasion is starting and vikings are starting to swarm down from the north
>nope, better give the empire, our only hope of survival the dick first!

Why the fuck would dwarves backstab the empire? Why the fuck would I need to plan for that, when I'm already surrounded by enemies. VH doesn't fuck around I guess.
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>>175551283
Not a chance
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>>175551318
never trust the dwarfs west of blackfire pass
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>>175551283

Heh, let me think about it: NO
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Who has the worst tech tree and why is it the greenskins?
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>>175552030

Empire is the worst by far
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>>175552473
why do people think this
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>>175552030
i believe because the greenskins are supposed to be quite dumb. most of their tech is just copied from other races. i dont believe any of their research has a non-military focus. not to mention they can only start researching the bare minimums after they get a bit of an advantage over the other tribes
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>>175552005

If only TWW was like this

Instead is a spastic clickfest, you can't even flank because your main line has already routed

look at multiplayer battles, units rout so often there is no line, everyone just comes back and throws himself into the mix again
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>>175463839
For Sigmar, and the Empire!
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>>175554069
DAMN IT

Whelp, see you later guys. Going to relinquish my soul to some drug addicted sex freak.
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>>175413323
Krakanrok the black

His nails are the size of draft horses
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>>175551884

I want to ____ those trees.
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>>175554668

"Burn"
>>
There are way to much good chaos mods but far to little good mods for the elves.
I hate that
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>>175548202
do archaon and this guy know each other? what do they think of each other?
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>>175555330
Wood Elves are the worst elves, so of course they are going to get fewer mods than everybody else.
Plus they launched with a complete roster and a campaign that isn't dogshit. And a lot more people own Warriors of Chaos on account of it releasing 6 months earlier at half the cost and was free with preorders.
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>>175419601
God this was painful as a fan of the books. Why couldn't they have just given Dayne his fucking Greatsword? It's literally his most defining feature and his namesake.
>>
>>175554069
>>175554120
don't forget to fap!
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>>175556024

>tfw no slaaneshi gf (male)
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>>175555710
if you look closesly he does actually have dawn, but ofc they had to make him dual wield bc they are fucking retarded.
>>
>>175419601
>>175555710
I wonder what would happen if Archaon was invading the asoiaf world. Let's say he goes through a warp gate or some shit and is teleported to the north of the wall. He has the treasures of chaos and the north is connected to the realm of chaos. Archaon has the blessings of the gods and stuff, but can't get an army of demons because that would be unfair. He can get an army of chaos wildlings if he wants but it would take some time to corrupt them.

Can he destroy the world?
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>>175556371
>high fantasy invasion of a low-mid fantasy universe

not even close
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>>175556371
>He has the treasures of chaos

Basically can't be stopped then.
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>>175556497
ASOIAF is one of those "post-high-fantasy" types isn't it? Like The Wall and other things were built by one super wizard but now all the magic's gone.
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>>175556694
The old editions sure were gaudy as fuck.
>>
Today is the day right? I mean brits don't have the international worker's day as a public holiday so they are still working right?
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>>175557295
We get it as the May Day Holiday
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>>175557409
Oh my bad then.

What would be a good may day free dlc? Greenskin revolution against the chaos dwarfs campaign?
>>
>>175557295
1 year anniversary is coming up. It would make a lot of sense if they released The Old Friend on the week of the 24th, so that teaser will be here any day now.
>>
>>175557037
there are dragons but are weak as fuck

there's also some shitty fire magic and necromancy

the most powerful guy in the setting is a 10year old cripple with internet
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>>175557549
anarchists (blasting charges)
>>
the more I play the orcs the more I realize they aren't actually bad guys

they are like chaotic good
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>>175557746
It's a real stretch to call them "good"
Goblins in particular can be very nasty at times
>>
>>175557746
aren't they just chaotic neutral? They don't care who/what/why they are fighting so long as they are fighting something
>>
I liked Hyrule Total War because I got to use guns, cannons, and steamtanks to mow down mythical creatures and children.

Will I like Total Warhammer?
>>
>>175558414

There's no children but everything else you mentioned is in there.
>>
>>175558414
>children
There are child soldiers in Zelda? What the hell.
>>
>>175558504
how watered down are the towns and shit compared to medieval 2

>>175558558
kokiri are a faction, murdered them for years and signed a treaty with the Deku tribes against them

I liked the town management, setting up firing lines and mowing down these fantasy faggots, and generally just holding the line against swarms of the gohma and deku and shit
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>>175558696

I didn't know anyone played this mod unironically, I thought it existed for the sole purpose of people posting screenshots to show off how ridiculous it is.

>how watered down are the towns and shit compared to medieval 2

Siege maps are probably the weakest aspect of the entire game and minor settlements don't have town maps at all, luckily you can mod that last bit now.
>>
>>175558696
Siege maps are watered down. They are not as annoying to play in as the ones in Medieval 2 though(better pathfinding and so on)
>>
>>175463839

rolling
>>
>>175559442
haha ghorst'd
>>
>>175463839
RR
>>
>>175559291
hyrule total war is pretty god damn fun as long as you play as the gunpowder nigger elves or the darknuts and enslave/exterminate the other races

>>175559350
I'm okay with Rome 2/Shogun 2 siege shit, I was mostly asking if the building system was the same boring 2-4 buildings, and tiny selection of them, per city. I liked building hospitals and art galleries and other auxiliary shit.
>>
>>175551318
>already surrounded by enemies
>didn't build walls
you reap what you sow Anon.
>>
>>175557746
>>175557862
Grimgor can be pretty sadistic too. In order to provoke the turtling dwarfs to come out, he ordered his boyz to torture the captives by pulling their beard and hair.
>>
News on next historical Total War when
>>
>>175560521
E3 2019
>>
Was going to make a shitpost but realised how full the thread is.

How many multiplayer shitters will demand nerfs of High Elves once they're released?
>>
>>175560521
>next historical Total War when
>next historical
>historical
heh
>>
>>175482634
feels like every single fantasy is redudant when you have warhammer already in play + imho all the magics added to the game really enhance the experience so I think they might stick with this shit forever if it sticks with people.
>>
>>175560694
An order of magnitude more than the ones who wanted them nerfed in 8th
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>>175559876
Sieges are only of a section of the city, with one wall. You also can't be out of range of towers
>>
>>175560694

I'm eager to see how they make them OP compared with their TT variants.

Magic obviously won't be OP following the trend with magic CA seems to go by.
I'm expecting Dragon Riders/Phoenix Guard/Swordsmasters to be Chosens on steroids, cranked all the way up to 11 though.
>>
>>175561253
I think theyll be balanced by small units and very high cost desu
>>
>>175463839
keks
>>
>>175559876
It's basically the same building system as Rome 2 and Attila.
>>
>>175557662
Wasn't there a whole castle melted by a dragon?
>>
>>175561253
Swordmasters and the like should be roughly as skilled as chosen, but with less HP per unit
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Fuck you asinine cunts, i win.
Why Grail Guardians are so fucking good bros.
Fucking best
>>
STUFF
>>
>>175562485
They're like the only good melee cav. You can just throw them into a shit situation and they'll still do okay because they just don't die. They're not like other cavalry where you need to micro them carefully for them to do well - but if you do micro shock cavalry carefully, they'll do REALLY well.
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>>175562592

>those mcnuggies
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>>175562592

>Slann
>Standing up

I don't believe it
>>
>>175562592
NAVEL
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>>175562592
INGAME NEVER EVER
>>
>>175562871
Could this be the exciting new naval feature they talked about?
>>
>>175562867
He's infantry until you unlock his mount at level 10 :)
>>
>>175562592
I wonder how powerful the slann will be in the game
>>
>>175563050
They'll have vanguard deployment for sure.
>>
>>175562592
"Used Shspes"

What did they mean by this?
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>>175562592
L-lewd
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>>175562871

Navel battles confirmed?
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>>175562592
>>
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>>175563394

We need to go thicc-er
>>
>>175563230
Typo of 'shapes'
>>
man I was reading some age of sigmar stuff and apparently archaon who isn't even a god is attacking and beating the shit out of literal gods such as nagash

how
>>
>>175563394

>you will never smack a Slanns fat ass

why even live
>>
>>175563864
literal in-universe plot armour: he's got a third eye he uses to see the near future with
>>
>>175564050
I thought grimgor broke the eye of sheerian
>>
Let's be honest guys, TWW is a pretty mediocre TW
>>
>>175562592
>I don't remember wearing this just prior to sleep
>this shit isn't even useful
>this crown is too heavy
>why does my back sting so much?
>where is my palanquin?
>>
>>175563242
Some one needs to photoshop a bunch of hand prints all over him like he was pranked at a party.
>>
>>175564293
yes he did

but the chaos gods remade it again at the start of aos, that item is bullshit given form
>>
>>175563230
You didn't notice "Jewl"?
>>
>>175463839
ONE TRUE GIT GET
>>
>>175564858
Oh my god
>>
>>175565103
You're damn right.

I AM FRANZ. THEY WILL OBEY.
>>
>>175463839
Want to play as the chaos prince
>>
>>175563521
>that skink
>that hand print
CUTE
U
T
E
>>
First time playing THE empire in TW:W

What do you guys do after destroying the secessionists?
>>
>>175567213

Marienburg, assuming Bretonnia hasn't already taken it.
>>
>>175567213

Depends entirely on which how the different provinces are aligned/what traits they have.

Some will be pliant to confederation, others will be presenting themselves as obviously antagonistic, you should be able to sketch out a plan by looking at the diplomacy screen
>>
>>175567213

Take Marienburg/Wasteland
Remove Crooked Moon from the premises
Remove Vampire Counts from the premises
Start confederating
>>
The Total war series is only fun if you roleplaying while you play or not?
>>
>>175567564

No?

I like moving around little soldiers and I don't roleplay.
>>
holup where's the new thread
>>
>>175567564

What exactly does roleplay mean?
>>
Whoever makes the next thread, don't forget the [Embed]s!
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>>175567861
Waiting for you to make it.
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>>175567861
Hiding with the Old Friend.
>>
>>175567260
>>175567326
>>175567343
Alright managed to ambush these fags

I don't know which empire units are good because every time I fight them it's turn 100-150 and they only have greatswords, halberdiers and mortars. My opponent seems to have melee superiority, hope my pirates are good, it's my first time using them in battle.
>>
As bordeleux, should I go through all the greenskin incursions first before I go for mousillon?
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>>175568221

I'd just take my chances at auto resolving that tbqh.
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>>175568372
>>175568372
new
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>>175568221
Your car will do work, you're fine
>>
>>175568221
ez . just hold their swordsmens with yours , franz and halbers on the lord , flank on infantery side on left of franz with handgunners , stomp their mortar in the first ten secs with reiksguard then assign it to roll on their crossbows , establish missile superiority with your xbows vs pistoliers , once the non infantry is wiped , ravage their asses with a flank of all of your missiles , and let the reiksguard do the heavy lifting
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