/rlg/ - Roguelike General

>go to zul
>buy a nice ring
>get ASSGUTTERED by dracolisk from off screen

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>>174885365
>from off screen
are you one of those meme irc guys who plays in 80x24 with no subwindows so he can termcast

>>174886725
what
no

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>>174887531
things can only breathe on you from inside this circle

>>174886725
>game requires you to have a viewport larger than your own LOS

not
a
roguelike

>>174888345
it doesn't require it
but if you have neither a "visible monsters" subwindow nor a large enough viewport, it's your own dang fault

>>174888329
well you're character doesn't stay centered in the middle, unless thats an option to enable

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moments after creating a new sorcerer to make that screenshot... rip

>>174888552
yes it is an option
the only reason not to enable it is if your computer is as old as Angband itself and it actually runs into performance issues doing that

can someone give me a good precompiled poschengband variant to play? im confused what is the new thing cool kids play and i want to return to get manabreathed simulator

>>174889182
https://github.com/GenericPseudonym/pseudoelliposchengband/

Best god for draconian transmuter?

>>174890201
mumo

Knurd.

>>174890420
mumo? more like meme

>>174890201
Chei, because that allows you not to pump so much into your magic schools, so that you can pump UC, fighting, and dodging.

>>174890996
>Chei
I still want to be able to cast haste though, so no Chei.

>>174892504
>that feel when hasted dragonform surrounded by tornado in v:$
made possible only by the grace of ashenzari, the one true goddess

>>174885285
used Shining One's blessing on a demon blade for cheap laughs

imagine my surprise when it turned into an eudemon blade

>>174865269
>@2 on a lamp
For what purpose?

>>174892504
>>174893220
This is correct. Ash is the best god literally straight until extended unless you play an easy exp race. They might as well just remove every god that isn't Ash or Mak.

Hello /rlg/, aspiring roguelike developer here. I've been brainstorming over the past few weeks on developing a roguelike. Question is, what do YOU want to see in a roguelike? That is, what would your dream roguelike consist of in terms of features?

>>174894131
What genre fellow nodev

>>174894131
Waifus. I want furry waifus, loli waifus, tsundere waifus, trap waifus with penises, maid waifus, licensed character waifus, and every other kind of waifu.

I want to be able to train them and get them molested by monsters at my own discretion.

>>174893892

I have the Stone of Lore in my inventory inscribed with @1 so I can switch between them quickly. I am looking for a good Ring of Combat so it makes it easy to check shit on the ground.

>>174894481
Ah, tedium mode. Fair enough, carry on.

>>174894131
i want a rogue like with no features whatsoever, if possible

>>174894481
doesnt pseudo make it so the stone of lore works from inventory without having to be equipped
R has all of pseudo changes so it should work like that there too

>>174894131
POST PROGRESS

>>174894131
make a rogue clone, but call it "Tum"

that way, when other /rlg/ users make variants of your game, we'll create a third major family of roguelikes: *tums

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oic PCBR is bugged
https://github.com/floatRand/PoschengbandR/blob/master/src/xtra1.c#L3924

it gives autoid if you have an item with auto-pseudo-id in your inventory
it gives nothing if you have an item with autoid in your inventory

>>174895596
>pseudoelliposchengtum-r

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3rd time i see this ever so far

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>>174894257
Preferably fantasy, but there's always wiggle room.

>>174894362
>>174895235
>>174895596
I love you

>>174895567
Pic related, I like randomly generated overworlds.

>>174888329
Is there any roguelike other than DCSS that has a sane LOS

>>174897725
moria

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Success.

>want to play angel of 100
>have to unlock it

ree

>>174898315
omedetou

>>174897971
Honestly how many people here actually played Moria?

>>174898315
>doomtiles
disgusting

>>174898315

If anyone is curious. Went Ammochain focused, which is just as OP as ever.

SoB->SoB->TH->Rel->Rel->TH->MAc->Fin->Fin->WK->WK->Jug->Bad->Fin->

I ended up just skipping the last two levels, as I had 7x Large Medpacks and plenty of ammunition. Found Nuclear Plasma Rifle in Deimos Lab, and it carried me pretty hard.

Also found a Nano Mod+Super SHotgun. Nano Shrapnel Super Shotgun is absurd and lets you cheese the unique maps pretty fucking hard, particularly The Vaults, Limbo, and Mt. Erebus.

Having two infinte use weapons meant I could carry a bunch of BFG ammo and shoot the shit out of the Mastermind.

>>174898973
I played it once a long time ago

>>174899112
Isn't John Romero already the name of an enemy in that game anon

What's the best weapon for a MuMo? Demon whip or an axe>?

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>mumo
>weapon

>>174898973
I spent more hours playing that on a 286 than I can remember.

is a tr/mi mumo also viable?

>>174900171
Also, what about starting as a Ne to burn books for extra piety?

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tell me about rings /rlg

Is it possible to use a command prompt replacement for roguelikes in windows? I want to try nethack but the default windows terminal is so small/ugly. I just want a nice big font + color scheme but I don't wanna play online.

>>174900360
you're going to love Zul

>>174900038
>that guy who doesn't quote people when he replies
It's good to know you're still with us.

>>174900371
You can use something like ConEmu. Just open it up, and then run any programs that use the command line.

Triple sword of holy wrath or eudemon blade?

>>174901397
Holy Wrath is a multiplicative damage brand, so it's best on weapons with high base damage.

Unless you're in desperate need of SH for extra protection, you probably don't need a eudemon blade.

>>174901397
Depends on a lot of factors anon. What shields do you have available, what spells are available, what your stats are, and so on.

>>174901601
>>174901596
I have both, and 27 long blades, and a large shield of protection +4 at 15 shields.

>>174901785
given the nerfed status of long blades base damage, using them with a shield that reduces your evasion riposte feels kinda bad, even though it's still strong
i'd use the triple sword

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>Hits for 30 plus her lajatang of distortion
Check out the new tile on Agnes. Looking good, old friend. I've had the worst luck with uniques with my gnoll runs so far.

>>174901785
3sword since you already invested to 27. This is the kind of thing you consider when you're at 16 LB.

>>174901974
I thought that barring GSC, a triple sword was the highest damage 1v1 weapon in the game?

>>174902083
hello my good friend. let me tell you something, in the newer versions of dungeon crawl stone soup, long blades have been changed such that 50% of all evasion cause you to automatically counter attack at full power, just like a regular attack, this is called riposte. to compensate, long blades have lost a bit of base damage, so now, great maces, bardiches, and exec axes are the strongest base weapon types

>>174902067
>Check out the new tile on Agnes.
Looks like absolute ass.

>>174902083
They have the weakest base damage, but riposte is pretty spicy.

>>174902341
I like it a lot. Very dynamic compared to the old one.

>>174900408
what's the procedure if I meet a new host and want to ride them? do I just walk my current host up to them and let them get killed? do they have to have not seen me use spells even while riding?

>>174902512
She looks like a fucking treewitch with green hair
old agnes tile was hot as fuck

rate my name changes

short sword -> gladius
hand axe -> hatchet
double sword -> katana
triple sword -> bidenhänder
mace -> hammer (because fuck you)
the depths -> east st. louis
spear -> pointy stick
scythe -> useless bloaty piece of shit
quick blade -> broken bottle

>>174900909
Thanks nigga

Just got the claws mutation on my Ds. My M&F is only at 5, what's the claw damage compared to say a demonwhip?

>>174902603
i rate you shitposter out of quality poster
please continue posting until you get better

>>174902591
Tree witches are neat, anon. Spriggans are for hexing, not for lewd.

>you can haggle in moria

what the fuck

>>174902684
claw damage is like using a +9 branded great mace but you still have another hand for a shield
it is dank as hell
dwhip slightly less dank and you need to wait until your dwhip is +9 and elec branded to reach maximum dankness

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>>174902854
(x)... not for lewd.
Get the fuck out of my face

>>174902684
go UC right the fuck now

>>174902571
uh, you can mount/dismount pets from the 'p' menu, just like a cavalry
only the list of things you can ride is very different, and you can't move when you're not "riding" a ringbearer

>>174903083
That halfing is having a seizure.

>>174902067
Hope she has her unique armor

>>174903936
aren't you mistaking her for the enchantress?

>>174903330
ohshit how do I heal my ring

>>174904087
your ring? hp regenerates just like for any other character

your mount? monsters also regenerate, but muuuch slower than the player
for now your best option is just to rest for 999 turns or something, but you should pick up wands of heal monster if you see any (and haste monster too!)

>>174903330
>elec
>not slashing

>>174904034
O shit, youre right, oops

>>174880325
Angband quests have guaranteed boots. They'll be junk boots, but they'll be boots. Also wilderness hunting is your friend.

>>174894131
On the one hand, I'd like to see something weird west, on the other, something absolutely apeshit insane like Kevin Siembieda's Rifts could be pretty rad (don't lift it 1:1 cause he's a madman looking for any lawsuit money). It's kitchen sink and insanely high powered, with mecha, dragons, mages, psionics, cyborgs, mutants, and interdimensional beings. It's a setting where a cyborg Adolf Hitler in a cowboy outfit capable of withstanding tank shells firing off fireballs and ice blasts and psychic telekinesis riding on the back of a super intelligent part-mecha dinosaur steed with gatling guns mounted where its arms should be is a 100% viable and possible character concept.

Weird west is generally fantasy and magic and undead and the like set in the wild west, think RDR: Undead Nightmare or Jonah Hex

>>174904206
no I mean how do I heal my ring on demand when I'm in a crisis

>>174904894
haha sounds super epic ^_^

>>174905148
drink potions like any other race

>>174905148
potions still work yeah
but if you're really in a crisis teleporting is often better than healing

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Getting flashbacks of old school skeletons and zombies. I almost miss when I could have a constant mob of 10+ zombies on every floor. Made the ascent a breeze.

apparently the whole "burglary rogues use dex instead of int" thing is only half true
because int still affects their number of spells known AND their failrates
dex only changes their max sp
but im pretty sure this is a bug

>>174906898
>anon that writes filenames likethis is josefromcouch
I remember you. Your memespewing on webtiles gave me cancer several times.
Kill yourself.

>>174907632
no bully

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>shoals last floor
>the little closed areas only contain evo items
>i sacrificed evo anyway
>its just fans and a lamp
>nothing else thats useful on the floor other than mut potion and magic mapping
Yeah..

>>174907632
I write my filenames like that too because it's far better than ending up with "I_am_a_huge_faggot_please_rape_my_face." Everyone knows the standard for naming images is to get rid of superfluous spaces.

>>174908526
Fan would have been ok. You should grab those javelins, they really pack a punch.

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>>174905178
Nah, postapocalyptic shithole, mostly interested cause you don't see insanely high powered settings that often. Or weird west, take a look at Deadlands.

Being hit for 50 by a hill giant after killing one without taking more than 10 damage really is sobering. I forgot how tough these guys are.

>>174910893
good news for you! hill giants are removed.

>>174911125
and effectively replaced by 2-headed ogres who are much nastier than they used to be

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Should i?

>>174890201
Wu Tang Council lets you walk through corridors like there isn't even an orc pack there

>>174911503
>7 (seven) potions of haste

unless they gave you that right back, fuck no

>>174911778
Dont you like fun, anon? Ill do it anyway just because

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>>174912083
Nice

>my game crashed
>i got rollbacked
Ok.. Thx online crawl

>>174894131
Lots of antisemitism plz

First for Cheibriados

>>174893970

More like just remove Ashenzari for being a useless piece of bloat.

>>174913932
>websockets explodes

reee

>>174913932
How did you do it? There's an announcement in the IRC channels whenever that happens, and if it's repeatable it can be abused to savescum.

>>174902259

33%*

>>174914942
stop it ;_;
you added something cool only to remove it bit by bit
why do this

>>174914996

I like riposte but I think it should be further reduced to 25% to be quite honest. It's too good, I don't want to use any weapons besides longblades since it was introduced.

>>174914801
I was just attacking a place next to me because i had a swarm of enemies coming towards me and it just kicked me out and said 'Your game has crashed' or something

>>174917201
What weapon were you using?

>>174917464

+3 scythe of venom

>>174918190
Oh there's your problem. Ditch that shit right away. The game was merely saving you from your own stupidity. God stuff maybe?

>>174918339
ditch what? are you talking about his

+3 scythe of venom

>>174918450
Of course, what fucking idiot unironically uses a scythe

>>174918501
not just a scythe

+3 scythe of venom

>>174918569
is a horrible weapon. it attacks super slow and does no damage.

>>174918619
yeah, really shitty weapon
that

+3 scythe of venom

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help I'm being memed on

>>174918784
What meme? Do you mean the
+3 scythe of venom

Guys, quick. Do I skill unarmed with my claws mutation, or keep using my

+3 scythe of venom

>>174920629
i'd probably go with the

+3 scythe of venom

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>>174920629

I think you should level up the polearms at level 9 and switch to learning UC. Its purpose is so that you could hit a monster 2 (two) tiles away for free then switch to UC afterwards. If there's one thing I've learned from my sister, it's to always keep up the 1 (one) tum DPS and be overall efficient with my low tumcount speedruns. One should always strive to be competitive and constantly choose meaningful +3 scythe of venom decisions

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Man, I meant to post this a few days ago, but the Weekend Hunger Games got in the way.

I guess I'll just play less Demon for now. I'm out of my groove and I am merely a little bored of it right now, even if I play a little suboptimally, which I always do.

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>>174923256
You parents named you Tennessee?

>>174926605
Do people really not use their real names when it comes to user privileges?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12820313

>>174927517
>1 vote yes

Tennessee, pls.

>>174926605
Why are all those biscuits outside of the water?

>>174927517
I just use the first letter of my first name since it's faster to type.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8ZknjYmek

>>174927517
Windows, yes
Linux, no

I really need to stop underestimating greater titans. It was just the arena, but that fame hit's going to take a while to fix.

>>174932557
the biggest assholes in the arena are all the guys who know throw ruk

>>174932557
Stop playing PCB

>>174933395
I've stopped twenty times this week alone.

>>174932557
>die
>keep playing
sounds like you're in the wrong general, friend
/lite/ is thataway

Which Poochengband fork is fotm now?

>>174934042
same as usual, pseudoelliposchengband for hard ground and poschengband R for soft ground

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Where do MuMo and other roguelike characters fit on this chart?

>>174934976
every single being in the universe deserves exactly as much suffering as they are experiencing

"deserve" is a made up word with no true meaning in the grand scheme of the universe, just like "should"

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Any of these worth saving up and buy? Haven't even got to Lair yet, so I got time to train skills up.

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>tfw no diggers azog

>>174935875
Phasing and Wyrmbane are amazing. If you don't already have good boots then grabbing the boots would be good. Also that great sword is top tier.

>>174935235
it's really not about making you bear the weight of sin from a previous kalpa anon

the one who makes you suffer, and chooses for you to suffer, is always you yourself

when you die, it grants you the wish of your next life, so if you suffer now it's because you thought it was necessary before.

>>174936420
I know. that's exactly my point.

>>174936235
Wyrmbane maxes out at +20 iirc and it's one handed, so it's usually the best weapon outside of a zigg.

>>174936578
is your irl a retry too anon

did you get any cool cheats like ESP out of it

http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=537b456c9a2d3c398ea77ca6abb64e00ed4926a8
>Revert "Remove Monks' starting weapon choice"
>This reverts commits b48d95fd49c, af809b6da4c and cd8f41eed80.
Are they now removing their removals
Does one part of the devteam even know what the other is doing

>>174934543
Didnt they add all pseudoelli stuff to PCB

>>174936725
compassion and patience are the coolest ones I got, I think

>>174936603
+10 slay isnt worth losing 5-7basedmg and a dmg brand, wyrmbane is trash

>>174935875
Thats one good great sword and so is the battle axe too. Would serve nicely to save your enchant weapon scrolls till you find a nice branded Executioner axe or triple sword.

>>174937213
Its a DsVM, he will never get enough points to use an executioners

>>174937302
Ah shit, hadn't seen that.

On another note, the wyrmbane could serve as a nice resistance stick and popcorn killer, it only requires 12 or 14 skill also. Then again, you might prefer having a staff in hand.

What sort of caret do you like to use? I like the inverse flashing solid rectangles. Vertical lines are pure filth.

>>174937302
26 on -1 is really easy to do

>>174937763
By caret I mean cursor.

>>174937002
I hope you realize those are luxuries afforded to you by justice and indignation.

>>174937060
Slay dragon is a damage brand anon.

If you need more punch just cast bladehands or dragonform.

>>174936934
much of it was but not all of it

there's a changelog here:
https://github.com/GenericPseudonym/pseudoelliposchengband/blob/master/changelog.txt

the pseudo changes that were added to vanilla pcb have been removed from the changelog, so everything in the top section is a difference from vanilla
the elliptic section at the bottom still hasstuff that was merged into vanilla though

>>174937060
Wyrmbane's damage brand is 0.5 mindelay instead of 0.6 dtrident. It compares very favorably to most demonic weaponry even before killing dergins.

>>174937060
it's also 0.5 mindelay and relatively low skill requirement since its base item is a spear

>>174899401
John Carmack is, but I don't think Romero is.

>>174937763
Red flashing underline.

>>174895945
There are no items with pseudo-id since you get it at 25 anyway, but good catch that it should be for equipment only. I'll need to fix it at some point.

>>174938036
I do and choose not to waste these opportunities

>>174938658
Oh wait nevermind, read reply-chain.

>>174938658
>There are no items with pseudo-id since you get it at 25 anyway,
eh?
isn't that supposed to be tied to the easy_id option though

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Anyone else prefer dark text and light backgrounds? It's more pleasing to the eye.

>>174939232
Absolutely not.

>>174939232
You are objectively wrong, the human eye prefers dark backgrounds

>>174938662
Well. That's okay. You don't need to fight. I've got enough suplexes left in me for everyone.

>>174939281
Speak for yourself disgusting human

>>174939281
I seem to recall CoQ having a really nice color palette until it turned into total eyebleed.

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>>174898315

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>>174939550
>human
Gargoyle detected.

>>174940502
Why can gargoyles berserk but ghouls cant

>>174940502
Woah i finally understand the I<3Mayoi joke

>>174940582
Gargoyles have blood.

>>174940742
>Poison immunity
>unbreathing
They have no blood

>>174940867
OK, you're probably right. You should ask on the tavern. Maybe we can both get something nerfed for a laugh.

>>174940867
They can use sublimation of blood, which means they do have blood

>>174940582
>A cross between ordinary stone gargoyles and living beings
So they aren't statues giving magical life but more like the gargoyles from the cartoon that are an actual living species

>>174941125
But at the same time Yred refuses time for being nonliving, you can't have both

>>174941004

stop playing old versions and play trunk you impotent

http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=603939af70ec593653f9cd693764068f71aef34b
Makes the spell unmemorisable for species without blood (Gargoyle, Ghoul, Mummy)

There should be more construct races. Like Golem and Homunculus and literal actual demons made of semen.

>>174941698
SLEX

>>174941427
So both Gargoyles and Ghouls are unbreathing and bloodless
Yet one can berserk but the other cant?

>>174935235
They will never know the full extent of the suffering they deserve

>>174941263
why would anyone do that? crawl is updated in reverse, newer versions have less content. it's a roguelike for algernon.

>>174940582
because flavor is bloat

>>174943282
Yeah that's the one thing I miss about old-crawl, it was very flavorful, it enhanced my experience of the game as a new player

Who /rnghorseshit/ here?

>need a knife to cut sheets into rags
>need a rag to make a makeshift knife
fugg.

>>174945993
>OOD two-headed ogre with freeze branded spiked club, the other club was +5 crushing
>3rd floor

>>174946269
can't you make some kind of knifey thing out of a dead plant and a sharp rock

or just smash a bed, they turn into rags

>>174946269
make a stone knife

>>174885285

I'm working on a sex roguelike. Sex with randomly generated creatures, like the 7-vaginad fish woman is now possible. Some vaginas release neurotoxins, some things kill you if you don't satisfy them, etc

I am never releasing this though because its too degenerate.

>>174946480
innawoods :(

>>174946584
Still need string/sinew for that, and you need knife to butcher/cut them. Now I understand why Survivor is the default profession

>>174946269
make a knife out of crystallized semen

>>174946827
smash a window for a long string

>>174946828
Where can I harvest that?

>>174946895
Wow I'm fucking dumb. I was under the impression that you need a knife to turn that into small strings as well.

>>174946895
How do windows make strings

>>174947171
It has curtains

note that you can just tear down the curtains instead of smashing the whole window
i think by examining it? but i dont remember the controls really

>>174947960
Yeah, with [e] you can just tear them down

Should I have a pair of rollerblades on me? They're pretty bulky though

>>174948464
do rollerblades work offroad?

>>174948865
Yes, but very slow (200 or something)

>playing adom
>luring the retard carpenter up to the fourth floor >playing a speedy wizard, faster than him, no problem
>go down one-tile super long corridor on d5
>hold down right arrow key
>suddenly a kobold appears right in front of me, still holding down arrow key
>die before I can release it from carpenter pounding my asshole

could have killed them both with one fucking magic missile

>>174948909
Where did you even find a pair of rollerblades?

>>174948969
Some zombies have them. You can also start with them with the roller-skater boy profession. With a pair and a knife spear (range 2 weapon) you can kite zombies on road in early game

>>174949120
I just took quick and fleet footed, that let me kite the shit out of zombies on all terrain with a knife spear

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>>174948959
>letting luddites win
Bet you didn't even have more MP than HP. You're no real wizard.

>>174949120
>>174949190
You can just use run mode to spear kite pretty much anything you'd actually consider fighting early on besides dogs.

>>174948959
oh no you lost like 3minutes of playtime

>>174949346
I spear kited a brute

>>174948959
does adom not have shift-move

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It appears there are only a few classes left unbeaten in poschengband:

yellow mage
scout
and blue mage

although there are obviously a zillion other classes with one win, due to elliptic and clouded's extensive coverage.

>>174949120
the professions that start you with them also give an otherwise unobtainable trait that reduces/removes (?) the penalties for using melee weapons while rollerblading

>>174948959
>hold down right arrow key
>arrow key
Does ADoM not have a run function?

>>174949615
did they really win all 4000 different dragons

>>174949615
turncount
6million
just how autistic do you have to be for pcb

>Go around a corner
>2headed ogre
>instantly hits me for 65dmg and kills me from 100 to 0
Can we just have hill giants back

>>174949901
PCB turncount isn't a reliable indicator of anything.

Why are so many evac shelter basements empty

>>174949672
well the leaderboard doesn't have a way to filter by subclasses
there are probably several permutations of dragons that are unwon, and IIRC bowmasters, some of the devicemasters, and maybe some warlock pacts?

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>>174949672
I'm not counting sub-classes just because they're difficult to determine without going through wins manually.

But at this point we can probably say "yep, this class is pretty much overcome."

Oh, and high mage of hex, nobody's pulled that off yet.

>>174949901
i think you add a few thousand to your turncount by resting till morning in the inn

>>174949615
Technically not classes I guess, but water elemental and phase spider haven't been won either.

Does this mean PCB is beaten and we need a new FotY

I can't play PCB its just too tedious for me

>>174951072
Thats why we have softground -R now

mumo bucklers are forbidden, y/n?

>>174952067
shameful but not forbidden
if you do it you will be mocked mercilessly

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>>174952257
It's beckoning me...

must... resist...

>>174952564
throw it in the lava, anon, resist the temptation

>>174942527
underrated post

>>174952564
Use it and win and ignore the plebs because you are a pharao

>>174949197
what show is that

it sort of looks like superjail but I feel like it probably isn't?

>>174952870
Ugly Americans IIRC. Bretty good show.

Are you allowed to use mutations in MuMo ?

>>174952564
Note that all winners so far used bucklers, the no buckler rule was only made after that. So really you can just go by "original rules" and use the buckler.

>>174952947
That's it. I knew I'd seen it but couldn't place the name.

>>174953195
if you did win without using bucklers though, you'd be the greatest pharaoh.

>>174953186
Undead can't mutate.

>using bucklers even after they have been certified as haram just because the previous pharaohs used it
They used it and they saw (experienced) that they were stupidly strong and had bo drawbacks. The rules clearly say "fuck bucklers".
If you use a buckler you might as well put on an amulet of regen like that pseudo(ellipos)mumo because you like your ground as silk as your silk panties.
Especially if it's protection or RF.

>>174953520
Spiny frogs/mambas are literally impossible to kill without bucklers, though. Hydras you can just evoke feet, but even with bigtime 6 AC/20 EV a mumo will get slaughtered. Go wizmode it and come back with results.

Bucklers are okay I'd you find them at like level 15 with 10+ shield skill or something though
A +2 buckler is not better than a shield at that point and it's just a matter of finding one to rng fuckery especially if you have found swamp/spider and the vaults entrance didn't give you a shield and you spent 150 K turns between d:1 and D:7 farming PODs trying to find a fucking tengu warrior for it to drop that fucking shield and you find a goddamb tengu reaver with a buckler at turn 200 K

>>174953753
>Spiny frogs/mambas are literally impossible to kill without bucklers, though
Go watch the holy scriptures again you plebeian. I myself have cleared lair many times on mumo without a shield just by going around hydras (which are the only real threat for an unshielded mumo)

>>174953817
>rng horseshit
funfact amulet of regen was allowed in the original version because they got changed from rings

>>174954047
>the original version
>hey they forgot to add a punishment for pirating in the code of Hammurabi so technically I'm in the right here officer

cant get poschengband r to work
says msvcr120.dll not found

People that never will play Mumo arguing about what should be allowed
Why not just make a Mumocrawl that keeps you at XL1 with locked skills like Gnollcrawl

>>174894131
Get your own idea dude, how are you gonna power through the months or years of work it'll take to design, code, and test someone else's idea?

>>174954281
You probably need to download msvcr120.dll

>>174954301
It couldn't be that hard to remove all races and classes but mumo, and then get rid of that pesky robe permanently (which is easy to forget to remove due to the sheer volume of splats)

>>174954281
did you download the whole ZIP or just the .exe

>>174949660
doesn't work while an enemy is in sight, but yes. he was doing a quest where you need to kite an enemy for a while.

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>>174954281
msvcr120.dll is only needed if the file is compiled with msvc set to debug mode instead of release mode
because it's used for debugging

so basically floatrand is a big dumb ogre who did it wrong

>>174954357
i tried
installed visual c++ pack too

>>174954439
whole zip

>>174954592
what a dumbfker

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Autoget is a helluva drug.
Can't wait until I die from it.

>>174954281
I had this stupid bullshit problem with regular PCB 5 wanting msvcr100. Ended up manually installing the dll to fix it.

>>174954869
where did you put the dll
system32 and syswow64 didn't work for me

>>174954917
game folder

>>174954756
if you have the default disturb options, it is interrupted whenever a monster in LOS moves,
although i guess you could get the kind of situation where while your @ is autogetting some asshole like Jack or Habu under telepathy but not in LOS slowly creeps towards you before oneshotting you the turn he comes into vision

i really want an option in PCB for "disturb whenever a new monster enters telepathy"
as it is currently the only optioins are "disturb whenever any telepathically detected thing moves" (makes it impossible to rest if you have tele), "disturb whenever a telepathically detected thing higher level than you moves" (which is almost as useless since everything is higher level than you in lategame), or "totally ignore telepathy and only disturb on things in LOS"

please stop comparing mumo to a religion that attempts to justify pedophilia and sexual slavery

>>174954948
ah ok that fixed it
needed x86 version of msvcr120.dll in folder

>>174954998
literally who is doing this

>>174954998
Are you talking about Catholicism?

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>>174896941
>river splits

>>174955051
>>174955179
Islam. In Islam it's okay to purchase a prepubescent Christian girl and rape her. If she's a Muslim daughter of your cousin it's only okay to rub your dick between her thighs until she has her first period, then rape is okay.

Only rape doesn't exist in Islam because sex is always the girl's fault.

>>174955401
yeah i get the whole "mohammad raped his 12 year old wife" thing
i just dont understand who is saying that mumo is islam

>>174955452
>haram

Do you use wide or narrow sidebar in CDDA

>>174955362
?

>>174955562
anon is mad about unrealistic geography
dont worry though, we can just say a wizard or a dragon did it

>>174955631
But rivers do split

>>174955631
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_bifurcation

>>174955654
>>174955717
this is just proof that wizards are real

water only flows downhill

>>174955654
Rivers don't split like that. Where is that river going? Is there a pit to the center of the earth?

Rivers only split when there's something in the way, and they usually remerge further down. Water takes the lowest path to the lowest point so it doesn't fork off naturally: Either the alternate path is higher-resistance and no water follows it, or it's lower-resistance and the whole river follows it.

>>174955362
>lake doesn't drain
>river starts away from mountains, move towards mountains, then moves away from mountains again
>desert in between two rivers

>>174955808
>being able to know the topography from a 2d picture

>>174955895
You're discounting volume. If you tried to put all the water down one path it would not be able to go all down without becoming higher resistance than the other path

water always tries to be level, so if there is 2 paths it will fill both so that they are equal height

>>174955513
Narrow. Wide is fucking garbage and divides the useful information all over the place. Narrow keeps it all in one place.

water inflicts stunning if 1d (monster level) < 1d(damage)

So is it possible to sneak past this guy?

>>174917464
This >>174918190 wasnt me, i was using my claws since im a troll

>>174956820
i dont see anyone there anon
you sure he's not the one sneaking past you?

>>174956842
God shit?

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>>174956867
So is it possible to sneak this image past my post?

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>>174956842
why would you use your bare troll hands instead of the
+3 scythe of venom

>>174956910
where is even your @

>>174956910
try it, see what happens

be sure to quaff a nether resistance potion

>>174956887
What do you mean?

>>174955915
Are you unfamiliar with contour lines? Not that that map features any.

>>174956910
>hey guys lets fool around with these mobs who like to one shot you
uh huh

>>174956910
>doesn't resist stunning

>>174956910
dungeon guardians are always generated awake
stealth in *bands is just about reducing sleeping monsters' chance to wake up, unless you're ninja

if you have enough hp and resists and !heal you can just walk at him and hope he doesn't breathe too often, hopefully with some helpful trees to block LOS. the dungeon guardians don't actually stay on the staircase, just near it, so if you get close you can just walk past him and use the >

oh yeah and ways to apply debuffs help -- confusing lights is great but it might even be worthwhile to just poke him with icebolts before charging in

>>174957009
his @ is the h

>>174957156
Ninjas are just totally fucking broken. Playing a Tonberry Ninja is basically a balance crime and I love it.

>>174957156
I see. I guess I will have to return with some more HPs.

>>174957447
Castle goes all the way down to D:65 and its entrance guardian is a pushover, so it's a nice option if you want to go deep

>tonberry ninja
>level 17
>hanging around orc caves, reached azog but haven't found him, ugluk is here and he's an asshole
>can't figure out any way to kill him, he's too strong to do the usual vanish and stab loop

What next, /rlg/? This is the farthest I've gotten in PCB and I'm not sure how to proceed. Am I just too low level for this area? How do I play ninja past the first dunyen?

>>174957718
well you can do the whole stabstabstab -> phasedoor -> chug !ccw -> stabstabstab loop against any melee enemy

>>174957718
use your op af ninjutsu skills to hit and run and create darkness in the middle of a sunny day

if you're a tonberry and get regen you should pretty much never run out of ninjutsu

shit you can recover it with !CW potions

Has crawl changed the minimap colors on trunk

>>174958363
bold_brightens_foreground = true
that should fix it if you put it in the RCfile

>>174957718
Get a shitload of CCW, reset until you get a level without diggers, then pull Azog away from the pack.
Then fight him. When you get to half HP, phase door and CCW to full HP.

Rinse and repeat until he dies.

>>174958707
>already grinding potions that early

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>>174958540
It doesn't.

>>174959664
oh I'm sorry I misread your post, that's for fixing LOS colors in trunk with ASCII

>>174949901

That's fucking nothing. See Elona+, even though it tries to cut out tedium you'd still easily burn thousands of hours before you even know it

>>174959664
Not seeing a commit that would change the minimap

http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=c5baec59d198ef772deec5bdc9e8e8041d20d22c

>>174960027
but elona has waifus and it's different because you can masturbate to it

>>174953195
>hey let's ignore the version rule systematically even though the artifact generation has been buffed since then and artifacts now give 2x the stats
>oh they banned bucklers because they noticed they were op but who cares lmao stick to the old rules :D

>>174960879
>he still believes trunk mumo is easier

>>174960879
>he's still rulesfagging about a made up challenge in an alphabet soup simulator on a taiwanese origami bbs

>>174960921
>hehe don'd mind me bro just hardgore mumo'in' with my 40 dex and 28 ac
>wow these new monsders designed to be tab fodder 1 on 1 are so harb :DD

>>174961101
0.15 was chosen explicitly to rule out bennu, after all.

Not only .15 is ezmode (no bennu) but it also looks like complete ass
I mean fuck's sake every time I look at the tiles it seems like someone put a dirty glass over my eyes

.17 is the best MuMo version

>Your skill in dodging has increased to 4!
Is this what invincibility feels like

>>174961185
Because dicks did a shit ton of fsims just to find out that no matter what a Mumo cant beat a bennu
Then people did it anyway

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>>174961894

can you throw stones in mumo

>>174962005
no because they deal damage
Also gloves of archery are haram because of that

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>>174961101
I'll always be proud of my ball of dex.
.18 trunkmumo was a magical time.

>>174962060
was that a winner

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Idk if its smart to wear this now or not
Also
>clear crypt the 2nd time in my long runs
>no loot what so ever
Great branch..

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>>174962005
THOU SHALT NOT THROW THINGS THAT DO ACTUAL DAMAGE
>>174962096
Fuck no, I died in depths to a fire giant.

>>174962132
the slay barely matters for a troll at that point
and crypt generally either generates 3 artefact rings or a shit ton of books

How would a Mumo deal with Meliais

>>174962025
not if you throw bread. the rules only prohibit rings that give regen and slaying and boots that give running. if your gloves give slaying technically it's totally fucking fine, throw all the fruit you want.

>>174962224
the same way mumo deals with anything else
one at a time

>>174962164
But mr++ and idk if the amulet can evoke itself with rage since i sacrificed evocations
And i had 4 books around crypt:3, 1 inside the 'loot room' and this necklace and a +1 slayer ring, which is fucking nothing

>>174962224
He wouldn't because mumo is terrible after .17

The approved versions are
>.15 (Halal but fugly)
>.17 (Not as halal but pretty tiles)

>>174962150
The rules only stipulate that it has to be FUNNY, they say nothing of damage.

>>174962132

I found my fair share of high level/relevant books in crypt though. Crypt is like Elf, except you need to go there because of Tomb.

>>174962391
stones arent funny
unless its aimed at duvessa

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>>174962391
Throwing for actual damage is not funny. Is the antithesis of fun.

Imagine, if I threw a pie in your face it'd be funny. If I skewered you with a javelin, would it be funny?

>>174962461
Crypt is way easier than elf tho, i cleared all this with mr++ and no rN

>>174962338
>speed 12 smiter
idk dude even 1 might be too much

>>174962481
If I threw a pizza with enough force that it killed someone that would be pretty funny.

>>174962523
Elf is really easy if you have dig
Crypt has shit like Khufu, Flying Skulls etc

>>174962583
Yes, that's true. Which is why archery gloves aren't haram.
Anon was just making up his own rules.
I once killed a blink frog with scrolls of uselessness.

Why the fuck would you play mumo lol

You are totally RNG dependent

>>174962585
I actually had khufu on crypt:1, was an easy kill since i was just breaking los with him and forced him to come to 1 square to me, flying skulls arent really dangerous but thoose death skulls or whatever they are called i forgot, which summon and pain, fuck that shit, worse than cursed toe
Also elf isnt really that easy anymore with dig since they fixed elf ai and elementalists destroy walls around, so its really annoying and theres more danger in there with getting abyssal'd and crystal spear/summons with hellblast, etc.. while crypt is linear and everything is melee except a lich here and there which is sort of easy to deal with with breaking los which is hard to do in elf

>>174962657
archery gloves have always been haram

>>174962391

The spirit of MuMo is about and only about fisting and walking away. This challenge is about carefully analyzing two of the greatest mysteries in this world via a game of Crawl. What exactly does it mean to fist? What does it mean to walk away? Why are they necessary and inevitable? You can reach a satisfactory conclusion after a very hard struggle comparable to finding eternal happiness and enlightenment in life.

>>174962851
this fucking mudslime.

go back to your country so you can whimper like a bitch while your sister gets molested by your uncles.

>sempai will never notice you and make you feel like a double agile mumo with +2 gloves of dex

>>174962931
I get that you're trying to force some hip new maymays anon with the whole scythe thing and this but can you not

>>174963103
I literally cannot stop fighting this insurgency at any time ever. Stop saying that shit it's disgusting.