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C*der Genocide When edition

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Last time on /ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station:
>PJB makes the age-old mistake of fucking with engineering autism, suffers the consequences
>Everybody laughs at him

>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc

>New player guide
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/General_Help

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server
byond://game.ss13.moe:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.moe:1337

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>/vg/station forum and logs
http://ss13.moe/forum/
http://game.ss13.moe/logs

>Map renders collection: updated sometimes
http://game.ss13.moe/minimaps/images/maps/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation
https://discord.gg/fE3Ts8A

>Cryo Autism
http://pastebin.com/raw/YmAyagUa

>Round Stats
http://stats.ss13.moe/

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o

>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/
http://ss13.moe/index.php/bans

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/raw/z7czw5WQ
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>its 9PM in the relevant part of the world
>there's still 70 people on
GO AWAY
I WANT MY COMFYPOP YOU FAGGOTS
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>>174839971
Gas the coders server war now
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Did they really fucking reopen the PR after the chicken himself told them to stop?

http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=2391
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STOP DISAGREEING WITH US REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>174841028
He's absolutely right though
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>>174841028
>emoji's were a mistake
>he says in discord
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>>174841028
>Are we so out of touch?
>No, it's the players who were wrong
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why do I keep coming back to this game

why can't I just stay away from it

send help
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>>174841028
>emojis were a mistake
>discord
:thinking:
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>>174841262
What he said goes both ways, it's not one sided. People have been justifying ending debate based on emojis for some time now.
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>>174841028
>compromise
>COMPROMISE
COMPROMISE, THERE'S THAT FUCKING WORD AGAIN
THERE'S THAT FUCKING GODDAMN WORD AGAIN
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>75 people online
Dear lord, please make it stop.
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Looking at our autistic collabs and their never ending temper tantrums to get their terrible changes added into the game.

What the fuck do we have as a server that makes us special now?
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>>174841640
>75 players
>0 admins
New admin applications when?
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>>174841927
You're right, the amiable relation between coders and players was one of the selling points of our server.

Until a few bad apples ruined it for everyone.
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>centcomm doesn't respond to your faxes
Is there any sadder feel?
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>>174841927
/vg/ is in the deathrows
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>>174842235
>your waifu doesn't respond to your PDA messages
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>find FREE ancient gun in mining
>it's just one of those botany mutation guns
>go back to station and give it to botany
>waltz into maint and find two guys talking about something
>they freak out for no reason
>waltz back out
>go do stuff
>go into the same maint
>same two people writing runes on the floor
>later i chase him and he tries to shoot me with the gun i gave him
>mfw
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>assistant
>find cult rune in brig
>run to the brig to get implanted
>say I want to get implanted, they let me in
>wait for a long time until I get told to leave. while stunlocked by the flashers, a security officer stomps on my chest
>decide to leave without getting my implant
it's not like it caused injury or anything, but it's the DIGNITY of the thing, damn it!
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>>174841489
Just eat the fucking cake before they come back, man.
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It was a shame the football never took off until the very end, but I guess it's hard to have the same cool gimmick twice.
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>>174841927
>our medbay isn't casualize like /tg/ or other servers
>we have ghetto chemistry
>you have literal free speech, you'll never get banned for saying "nigger" or "faggot"
>still the best server for pipping, until PJB forces his shitty PR
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>>174842361
sorry, I got distracted by "ZOMG CULT!!!1". it was fun when we did play it, though
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jesus christ that was a bad clown round.
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>>174842332
That's when you go full greytide
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PSA: IAA's have bridge access, and the next time some dumbshit who clearly shouldn't be playing a head arrests me for being in there I'm killing them.
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>>174842437
Seeing you wait in that cell while there was a braindead officer I left in the back was pretty funny to me
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>>174842428
But all of this shit is quickly going down the drain too.
Med isn't that much special, Bay's is almost like ours with easier peridaxon. They still have and need surgery, and their chem is actually arguably harder since you don't have infinite energy.
The free speech, that's going the way of the dodo too as more and more rule0's get handed out because you told an admin that you didn't like him or the way he played, or offended one of his buddies, and the piping has been getting increasingly casualized for years now.
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>fat
>become slime
>tits are literally popping out of jumpsuit
naisu
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>>174841927
remember that running parallel to that PR is https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/14721
Which is a perfect example of a coder taking feedback well and the PR changing for the better.
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>>174842549
still, you shouldn't be in bridge if you don't have a good reason to be there
don't fucking play IAA just to greyshit with your high access card faggot
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>>174841927
It's the only relic of old baycode that even baycode doesn't want anymore and even then it's being filled with TG shit so we might not even have that
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>>174842627
I don't know if I'd call him a coder, that's his first PR ever.
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>>174842549
You also stole from EVA, and had cable cuffs in your briefcase.
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>>174842664
the IAA can go on the bridge if he wants, what the fuck

>>174842549
Fax centcomm for justice
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>>174842617
You have to go back.
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>>174842627
Why are the collabs more immature than the coders? Why are probe, cluster and pjb acting just like dylan now?
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>>174842664
What from his post indicated that he was doing that? Or were you in the round with him?
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>>174842549
>that episode where security arrests the paramedic for having access to the brig
STOP THIS SHIT, NOW
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>>174840342
He has to be on the spectrum right?
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>>174842750
>stole from EVA
I have access to there on deff.

Cable cuffs are contraband though, even if I did just find them on the ground. Not that you would know that if you didn't unjustly arrest me in the first place.
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>>174842617
What serb?
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>>174842763
What are you, gay?
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>>174842848
Weebs are not welcome on this server.
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>>174842751
yeah, and para with CMO can go in brig to snoop around because THEY HAVE ACCESS HEH
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>>174842627
The difference between that PR and PJB's is that when PJB disliked what was in that PR he started constructively suggesting what he would like to see changed to make it acceptable for him. And then the creator agreed and followed through making it more acceptable for everyone.

That is the exact opposite of the response PJB got which was 6 people downvoting his PR and just saying "no" within 10 minutes of it opening.
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>>174842750
Deff IAAs have EVA access
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>>174842828
Deff EVA doors have the wrong access requirements on them, that doesn't make everything in there up for grabs. I didn't arrest you but seeing you running around in stolen magbooties prevented me from intervening on your behalf.
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>>174842839
This serb
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>>174842916
They can if the officers aren't jumpy shits. There's also a difference between a paramedic entering the brig, which is usually staffed full of validhunters and paranoid people, and the IAA hanging out on the bridge.
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>>174842974
>hey, you can just walk into this place and there are nine (9) pairs of magboots in there, but if you take a pair you're a thief!
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>>174842916
CMO I can understand, but the paramedic can heal the people you harmbattoned or the corspes you left behind after all the executions. To have an autismfit because he's there is shit tier security behavior at best
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>>174842751
>>174842664
>>174842549
Oh I knew you had an access and were allowed to be there. But you bum rushed it during a cult round with some people following you so I decided to tell sec to arrest you.
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>>174843171
Oh, so you mean the classic HE LOOKED AT ME THE WRONG WAY IMPLANT IM

that's fair enough really, everyone does that shit
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>>174843362
glory to nanotransen
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>>174843362
>>174843485
Basically, yeah. I had no real reason for it, other than it annoyed my character.
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>>174843108
Botanists can access the bar backroom, there's a shotgun just lying there. Botanists will get their arse kicked for reasoning that the shotgun is their property because of this.
>>174843485
Cause no trouble.
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>>174843171
why did you reply to me

why did you tell sec to arrest someone with a loyalty implant on a cult round
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>>174843579
Shit It's almost like these two scenarios are completely different and one of them is, y'know, a fucking gun?
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>>174843609
>wah I'm not antag leave me alone!1!1! Fuckin WIZARDS abloooblooooo

Go back TG and stay there
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>>174843579
That's a false equivalency for several reasons and you know it.
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>Renovama is back and is immediately starting shit
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>>174843820
Already jobbanned from anything important

I'm starting to think this isn't just a retarded 13 year old but someone who is seeing how far he can take the "I'm just retarded" card
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>>174843579
There is a major difference between taking magboots from somewhere you have access to and taking a gun from somewhere you have access to. Namely that one of those is a fucking lethal weapon you dingus and the other is survival equipment.

Now the IAA in magboots is powergay at its finest but not even remotely close to being a cause for alarm like a botanist taking a shotgun.
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>>174843918
>beanbag shells
>lethal

The gymnastics
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>>174843918
Why does the fucking iaa need magboots?
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>>174840342
PJB for some reason has the worst ideas. When someone tried to change the RPD to not have a delay when building pipes he sperged about it and demanded the UI for the RPD made better instead. When it was suggested that a all layers button be added he went even further off the deep end and shut down discussion about it and gave us some shitty barely functional favorites button on the RPD and considered it a job well done
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>>174844049
Buddy you don't get to do a triple somersault and then call out gymnastics
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>>174844089
Zero G department inspections
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>>174843918
>>174843715
>>174843684
I see where he's coming from. Why the fuck should the IAA have magboots? Unless it's a major emergency there is no fucking point. Why would the fucking botanist need a riot control gun? Unless it's a major emergency there is no fucking point.
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>>174844140
Why not? Does it make your bullshit less shit?
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That Green haired Devil, he stole my heart.
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>>174844250
Geez I don't fucking know maybe some asshole set off a welder bomb in the bar and then some other asshole kept on reopening depressurizing the whole station
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>>174844250
There's no point to you being literally gay either but I don't see you getting arrested over that.
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>>174844247
this
nothing like inspecting a department from the exterior
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>>174844140
For a blacktide IAA player you're not good at composing arguments
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>>174844515
I wasn't there, I haven't played this game in years, just remember seeing similarly stupid OOC shit all the time and understanding the comparison.

>>174844569
All fags need to be gassed anon, not just arrested.
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>>174843693
I wasn't even the IAA you shitter, and I just think it's a little nonsensical for you to act against your own interests just so you can fuck with the IAA. Maybe he was a shitter though, but if you're arresting an IAA just for being on the bridge it sounds like you're the shitter desu
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>>174843684
>>174843918
>>174843715
Yes, the scenarios are different, I was making an absurd example to show that the mentality of 'if I can access it, it must be mine' doesn't work.
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I didn't mean for any of this to happen
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>>174844928
I didn't say you were the IAA
and you're only proving that your mindset for this game suits TG far more
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>>174845280
I'm just trying to get you to see that what you did was both a shitter move and completely nonsensical even from a powergamer's viewpoint. You're just a bad player and I was trying to get you to see that. No shame in it as long as you admit to it and try not to be so bad next time though
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Are the numbers for the radio channels not on the wiki anymore? I could've sworn they were in general help.
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>when you join a community project and spend hours of your life wrangling with depreciated hobby-grade shitcode for a 15 year old MUD game just to piss off the people that still play it and brag about your hilarious exploits on a chink spyware VOIP program
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Next purge when, i want to abuse Surfer
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daily reminder PJB is right
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>>174846650
Surfer's one of the ones who just ghosts when you try anything naughty with them.
All the new WFU is like that, actually. It's very disappointing, torture is no fun when there's no response played out from it.
I got kidnapped by a vampire and his cronies once as botanist once, and taken to a room above botany in maint, strapped to a chair, and they stabbed my eye out. It was kinda fun playing out the screaming and crying and begging for my life.
It was kinda hot too. What wasn't hot was when the Chef, who was a little old grandma making cookies and being kindly-old-grandma, came looking for me and tried to take them on with a rolling pin. I felt bad for her.
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>>174846769
daily reminder that we need to rangeban the dutch
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>>174846621
>when you join a community project and spend thousands of hours of your life tirelessly working to improve code
>the people you worked for treat you with no respect and tell you to fuck off when their fee fees get hurt
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>shitposter finally codes something and it gets merged
>fucks up the changelog
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>>174846956
Then don't do it. The server has no obligation to merge anything you make, especially not if everyone who actually plays the affected part of the game dislikes the change and does not want it.
Get over yourself, faggot. Just because you do it for free does not mean you are entitled to getting your way.
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>>174846956
>improve code
You almost got me.
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>>174846886
for some reason provided that the other party RPs with it torture is incredibly incredibly fun
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>>174846956
yeah thanks for adding all that content and not spending those thousands of valuable man hours removing things and playing with numbers
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>>174847063
>he never Did stuff!
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>>174845952
Last I saw they were on the AI page.
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>>174846886
Surfer got abused in every round he played in the last purge, he didn't ghost
Just check the archive, there are greentexts
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>>174846886
>grandma chef baking cookies and being sugary sweet
sounds like a fun gimmick
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I also would like a purge 3 for reasons
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PJB is right infographic 1 of 1,000,000
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>>174848528
I'm pretty sure he said pumps wouldn't be affected by the PR.
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>>174848614
Well they should be
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Fuck whatever this engine reason for his PR is.
I just hate the fact that it will kill my stacking of vents and scrubbers to fill the air and scrub it faster, and I'll have to add one every tile, then it looks ugly and takes up too much god damn space.
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>>174848528
5x pumps aren't supposed to be run 100% of the time, you leave 1 single pressure pump running to keep distro at a constant pressure. You activate the 5x pumps when there is an emergency and you need the distro system filled fast. Now fuck off.
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>>174849063
Why not just use a digital valve
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>>174849063
Because valves are 2 way and I don't like the idea of the off chance someone hatches a canister to distro and getting my precious light blue pipes infected with backwash.
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>>174849194
meant for
>>174849194
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>>174849534
meant for
>>174849534
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>>174848528
PJB is right infographic 2 of 6,000,000
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>>174849534
meant for
>>174849601
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>>174849679
>repressurize 3 tiles per second
ZAS is room based, his infographic only makes sense on /tg/. PJB is a fucking retard who doesn't understand the atmos system we've had in place for years.
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>>174849760
This is stupid, you could fit as many scrubbers as that without layering at all.
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>revshit
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Whats the optimal pump pressure for the air in atmos anyway?
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>>174849912
#1. Not PJB
#2. I clearly meant the equivalent of 3 tiles of air faggot, I know it gets spread out over the room.
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>>174849912
ZAS is room based but he's talking about the volume of a tile
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>>174849679
>uvents repressurize 3 tiles per second
>on ZAS
What did he mean by this?
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>Warning says we'll be hit by a large scale meteor shower
>Nothing happens
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>two of the revsquad didn't even die trying to kill the heads
>they just fled the station
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>revsquad
fuck you coders, why would you make a rev mode where revs can't convert?
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>>174850048
>not joining the glorious taser tag
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>AI asks you to do your best
>You perform at sub-optimal capacity
Mom's gonna freak!
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>see a guy being perma'd while yelling for a lawyer over common while the lights above him are rapidly flickering

IAA ALARM ACTIVATED!
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>observing
>clown's trying to sacrifice all the heads' stamps for a honk squad
>sign up for the clown's honk squad because nobody else was doing it
>becoming vox clown
>remember i'm not funny
>ad lib a little bit and go play laser tag the rest of the shift
Surprisingly fun
People who use lasers during taser tag are the worst though
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>>174850138
the station needs more tag guns and vests, it can't accommodate all of the people that want to play it all the time.

Can you even order more?
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>>174850098
it was a gib shower. They don't do anything but make some limbs and organs hit the station.
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>tfw couldn't join laser tag fun because comms were out
;_;
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>>174850091
>>174850096
>tiles of air
Who the fuck measures air in tiles?
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>>174850208
It's called laser tag for a reason
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can someone tell me how to make the best buttbot?
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>>174850320
braaap
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>>174850275
why would that stop you?

>>174850307
and it's called taser tag for a reason

nobody plays laser tag because it's dumb and boring and taser tag actually builds useful skills
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>>174850223
Ask the IAA to fax centcomm asking for a team building retreat, get a shuttle full of the laser tag lockers delivered and assign teams based on departments. LASER TAG STATION
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>>174850320
use the fattest ass
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>Join as CMO
>Walk in
>Joanna tells me to look at the fridge
>Dexalin Plus (1 unit): 88

At least that golem arrived to help. Shame you couldn't get the labcoat on.
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>>174850375
>why would that stop you?
I had to fix it
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nipples is my fave clown
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>>174850386
that sounds really fun but it still doesn't fix the problem of there not being enough tag equipment
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>>174850443
How do I know who has the fattest ass though?
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>>174850451
>margherita slice: 1
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>>174850459
>doing your job when you could be playing laser tag
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>renovama wrecking his own unbannu request by sperging out and calling people names
oh how i'm laffin
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>>174850451
To be fair to the chemist before me. Doesn't 1dex+ heal all oxydamage?
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>>174850753
It was also the fact that it was the only chem in the fridge.
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>>174850223
>>174850386
Pretty sure device analyzers can scan the tag equipment too. Give the mechanics something to do.
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>>174850753
It does, but that's not really the good thing about Dex+.
The good thing about Dex+ is that it not only clears out all oxydamage, if you give them say, 5-10u of it, they will go 50-100 seconds without taking any oxygen damage, which is great if you have to perform internal bleeding/heart transplant/just need to keep someone stable for other meds to work on them.
1u gives that effect for about 10 seconds. Not very useful for much at all.
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>>174850753
Yes it does.
But should you have 90 pills of that?
The answer is no, you shouldn't. You need 10u pills, or 5u if you're a schmuck, because if you're keeping someone with no blood alive you don't want to keep feeding the fucker pill after pill only because the chemist was a retard.
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>>174850375
Tip for people playing tag to try and get robust: shooting fire alarms with lasers, tasers or the tag equivalents sets them off, it can be handy during a chase or a shootout to drop the shutters instantly.
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>AI turn off all of your comms until you compute the value of pi
what happens?
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>>174850284
PJB is right infographic 3 of gorillionaire
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How do I be a better chaplain, /ss13g/?
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>>174851105
>google value of pi
>find site with a fuck ton of numbers
>copy past into a pda message back to sender
>turn telecoms on
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>>174851154
Does this retard not know what plasma cooling is?
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>>174851531
>intentionally violate your laws
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>>174848528
>>174849679
>>174851154
PJB please stop, you're embarassing yourself terribly.
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>>174851531
ok, instead,
>AI compute the value of pi to the 1 billi digit
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>>174851610
I doubt anyone is retarded enough to have their name be "PJB" in-game
But this is PJB we're talking about
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>>174850508
oh you'll know ;)
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>>174851105
A few scenarios.

1. AI makes some sort of approximation, resumes comms.
2. AI keeps spamming values of Pi until an admin screams at the person who law 2'd it or someone asks them to stop.
3. AI states the formula for an iterative calculation of Pi, then resumed comms.
4. AI Player begins 1000 page proof that Pi terminates, accidentally proves the Riemann hypothesis, invest the millennium prize in the serb.
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>>174851727
4.
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>>174851765
Its clearly written right there that a player is named pjb.
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>>174851825
U
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>>174850375
>taser tag
that's not a thing

laser tag is fun, fuck you
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am i unbanned yet
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>>174851879
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/13250
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>>174852015
what is this garbage, why did they ruin laser tag
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>>174851837
I don't believe someone would do that
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>>174852092
>You can now choose to use projectiles with travel time
Oh no, laser tag is ruined!
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>>174852092
>ruin
What
It's in addition to laser tag. Use it in your hand to change modes.
It's a better practice gun than the actual practice gun now.
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>>174852092
>ruin
What
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>>174852137
[04:26:23]SAY: PJB/Carshalash (@259,256,1) As Galactic Common : ANGRY ABOUT TUBES
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what is causing this
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>>174852427
How's the weather on the moon?
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>>174852402
>Carshalash
Of course
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what if orange slime cores changed the gender of everyone around to female and blue slime cores changed it to male?
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>>174851154
thats old setup, HE was nerfed
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>Juan deag not valid for a counter strike meme name
>letting a literal TTT shorter play sec or heads
Lmao
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>>174851610
I fucking love clowns
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>>174854035
the tragic part is that he won't be permabanned from the server, despite clearly demonstrating he's underaged/retarded
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>>174854351
I got arrested by him for looking at a clown in a cell, beat to red and fifteen minutes total
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>>174854505
>>174854351
>>174854035
DID
YOU
AHELP
IT
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can someone please remove the low rate of fire or delay on tasers? Playing laser tag is fucking annoying and it severely limits the tactical capabilities of stun weaponry
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>>174854505
http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&p=19492#p19492
post in this thread right now
it will be the final nail in his retarded little coffin
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>stealthban guy I don't like from antag
>see him complain about never getting it

Best Spess feels?
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>>174850284
Telll me how much air is in medbay without counting the number of tiles faggot
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>>174854941
>when some retard who moderately perturbed you earlier in the day unintentionally torpedos his own unban thread by repeatedly sperging in the face of criticism
cathartic/10
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>>174851610
carlash is an idiot but he makes a funny clown
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Is the Diona Nerf coder guy still around?

I wasn't awake when you asked for feedback in the last thread and I'd like to give you some input now.
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>>174855558
>tell shitter that I'm sorry but I'm making a ban request
>"go ahead faggot LEL"
>they get a permaban
so fucking good
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TIL that lights can burn out in ss13, and its really fucking weird.
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The amount of spaghetti those cultists dropped was un fucking real
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>>174855354
Are you still in fucking highschool? It's measured in moles.
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RED
OR
DEAD
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>>174856395
In there defense, the kitchen dropped a lot of spaghetti also.
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>>174856140
Yeah sure whats up?
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>>174856521
BLUE

OR

YOU DROOL
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>>174856510
The volume you amazing retard or related, the moles at atmospheric pressure and temperature with a volume of medbay
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>>174856395
>5 or so minutes into the shift
>Walking through the main hallways outside engineering
>See "Dr. Whats-his-face has put a cultist tome in his satchel"
>UH OH
>think "Well, it could be a prank. Maybe it's printed from the library."
>ask "Hey, could you pull out that book again for me?"
>he ignores me and starts to run away when I hail him
>take him to the brig
>he had a cultist sigil on a paper, tome, and soul stone shard

then we had to go rescue the Chaplain's corpse from the incinerator. whoever killed him forgot to press the "incinerate" button.
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>>174856395
>that faggot with the hivehand
Hahaha no
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>>174856607
Considering it's the ideal gas law, all measurements can be made using the air alarm in each room to estimate the number of mols per unit volume. The unit in this case is a tile.
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>>174856685

I'm amazed you didn't detain me also due to the whole being right next to a cultist.

I was going on with him about it being an odd as hell looking cookbook.
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>>174856607
You asked how much gas was in medbay. The amount of gas would be measured in moles. Volume is a fixed variable that doesn't change because the size of medbay doesn't change. The volume of medbay stays the same whether its at 1 kpa or 100 kpa. You don't fill up the volume of medbay. The longer this atmos drama has dragged out, the more I'm convinced PJB is underaged.
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>>174856878
God, I forgot all about you when I went to go save the chaplain. Consider my spaghetti spilled. Were you converted?
>>
>Reno nuking his own appeal
hilarious

a tip: try to not argue with every nigger out there if you want your appeal to go okay
>>
what's the opinion on stealing the whole armory when the shuttle docks so you can round end griff? Kosher or not?
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>>174856878
>odd as hell looking cookbook
Anon I think you may be on to something here.
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>>174856896
You must be the biggest fucking idiot in the world. The original post literally said you can repressurize three tiles to atmospheric pressure per second.

Yes you do fill up the volume of medbay you dumb fuck. You fill up the volume of whatever zas zone you are in.
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>>174856896
PJB is underaged, and he doesn't visit the thread.
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>>174856973
I'd probably avoid it since you might give security a heart attack

HOWEVER, you can get a bunch of guns other ways, like being a scientist who makes them, a cargo tech who orders them, and so on.
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>>174856970
That's exactly what he did in his first appeal, too
He has a victim complex rivaling... uh... whoever the last guy known for playing the victim in appeals was. I forget.
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>>174856896
PJB IS underaged. This isn't a secret. If you ask him his age (on Discord, at least), he will say 16. He has never made any attempt to hide it.
>>
What causes people to go braindead, and if I see one should I bring them to medbay?
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>>174857297
Logging out
Just leave them where they are
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>>174857004
The volume doesn't fill up by tiles, it fills up evenly. This is ZAS not /tg/ kiddie atmos. He's using measurements that don't fit our atmos system. Yeah his made up units can make sense, but they are retarded to use and make me think that he doesn't know moles exist.
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>>174857297
Braindead means the player's client is not connected.
Just leave them alone.
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>>174857297
It means they disconnected
There's not really any reason to do so, but there's also not really any reason not to, so follow your heart
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>>174857297
drag them to the bar or dorms
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>>174856583
I think it's a step in the right direction, and I'm saying this even as a frequent diona player myself, who really likes the race. The rush-to-chemistry-and-chug-1000u-hyperzine-every-roundstart dance is tired, and stupid, and it needs to go. Right there with you on the sentiment.

However, why not go all the way and just make hyperzine do nothing for dionas at all, and prevent the runfast superpower from helping them either while we're at it? Not being sarcastic, I really think this is a good way to go.

If we want diona to be slow, let's make them be slow no matter what, and if that makes them too shit, give them something else different in exchange?

I've made posts on it before trying to just spitball ideas, like >>174761957

What are your thoughts on trying something like that? Not necessarily any of those ideas, but even some other things not yet stated?
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>>174857297
Braindead means they're disconnected. If you want to be generous you can put them in the dorms since it's shielded from radiation storms.
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>90 minute poke drive
>best catch is shit tier bulbasaur
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>>174857586
>pokedrive
What
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>>174857586
Wow it's almost like you wasted time playing a gay pointless game
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>>174857297
if they're near a chair buckle them into it so the inevitable ZAS memes don't skullbreak them.
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>>174857586
Hey buddy I think you got the wrong thread.
/vp/ is two boards down.
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>>174857702
>>Wow it's almost like you wasted time playing a gay pointless game
>in /ss13g/
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>>174857762
>Implement a Pokemon Go clone ins SS13
>Idiots wander maints all shift, making it easier to succ/convert them
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>>174840827
Yes, they really fucking did.
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>>174857762
Hey, when I accidentally get frozen in a cryo chamber due to an improbable series of events while delivering a pizza, my knowledge of space stations will come in handy!

>>174857832
>Implement a Pokemon Go clone ins SS13
>People start finding more dead bodies in maint, just like real life!
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>>174856973
pretty shitty, illegal under spacelaw, not banworthy if you don't unzip gun before dock
>>
WHAT exactly is wrong with ERP if it's consensual?
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>>174857904
>before dock
Before smelelel you mean. It's a very important distinction.
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>>174857952
It's yucky, and more to the actual point, it leads to the problem of people leaving their jobs to go fuck around in dorms with their waifus and log off.
It's just bad practice and there are places that they can do that legally. This is not one of them.
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>>174857952
It can detract from the rest of the game due to people dropping everything to get that virtual puss, a lot of people just don't want to see it, and nobody wants to know what freaky shit goes through the minds of ss13 players
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>>174857952
It leads to people taking up job slots to just sit in the dorms and emote at each other instead of actually doing their jobs and contributing to the round.
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>>174857952
Pomf did not consent
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>>174857952
it's consentual
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>>174858091
Pomf also didn't consent to attack animations or PJB pipes. Does that mean we're allowed to erp now?
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>>174857952
Providing ammunition for people to make fun of you ick and ock.
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>>174856948
Suprisingly no, I'm not sure why the hell he showed me his tome and got busted like he did.
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>>174858152
Pomf doesn't get a vote
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>>174858346
Why's that?
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>>174858403
He doesn't play, he doesn't code, he doesn't admin, he has no idea how the code works now, he doesn't interact with any of the players, coders, OR admins.
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>>174858473
POT
KETTLE
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>>174858552
What?
>>
I found the Youtube channel of the guy who did http://sam.wileycomputerworks.com/SS13/

He's got a million fucking views on a five second video of him pretending to shoot himself in the head.
It's weird as hell.
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>>174858575
>all 3 major collabs don't play the game at all
>None of them admin outside of threatening to ban people who call them fags
>Most of their changes fuck things up for weeks and refuse to acknowledge them because of their massive fucking egos
>Refuse to speak with anyone that doesn't agree with them all the time

PJB is literally an underage furry redditor who talks about how much he hates us nearly every day of the week.
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>>174858759
>Most of their changes fuck things up for weeks and refuse to acknowledge them because of their massive fucking egos
I wasn't talking about the collabs at all, but this isn't even true.
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>>174858759
furry?
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>>174858615
cool site
post his channel
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>>174858091
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>>174858920
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaZME9-Z-XyB3nUAL3ALQfw
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>>174857421
I nerfed the speedup to be 40% percent of what it used to be, and with hyperzine you are taking away the one big advantage that you would have as Diona which was the regeneration. Really a Diona on hyperzine becomes a regular human who is still weak to burn damage. I like quite a few of your ideas for Diona, but I doubt that most of them would be within the scope of my coding skill. I dont think that making genetics which happens rarely as it is, not work for Diona without some of your suggested changes to be coupled with it.
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>>174859207
So do diona take toxin damge after 15u of hyperzine now due to not regening while on hyperzine?
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>>174857893
>>174857832
You joke, but...
https://github.com/ParadiseSS13/Paradise/pull/5631
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>>174859350
All regen stops while they have hyperzine in the system, so correct.
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>>174859207
>I doubt that most of them would be within the scope of my coding skill.

I'll code it for you if you will simply organize it and put it on git so I don't have to fool with any of the drama or shit associated with it, myself.

You can even claim the code as your own, I don't care.
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>Get all the powers from genetics research
>Become a god amongst men
>Can't put my powers to use

There's no worse feeling.
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>>174858082
>>174858039
>>174858059

If the main issue is people fucking off from their jobs, why not limit it to assistants?
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>>174861013
It's not a non-traitor geneticist's aspiration to empower themselves, but to empower others to do great or terrible deeds in their stead.

The true joy of genetics is to make gods of all men, or a select few of your own choosing.
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>>174861083
In a weird way, assistants actually do contribute to the round ecosystem.
1. They populate places like the bar to ensure the bartender and other flavor roles don't go braindead
2. They ensure that something interesting is always going on in maint
3. They always give security something to do (which is good on extended, but bad on other gametypes if it gets out of hand)
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>>174861083
Assistant is a limited slot as well.
They'd be taking the slots from players who, for better or worse, would actually interact with the station as assistants.
>>
>>174861267
>>174861262
Not him, but is ERP really the worst way a typical greytide shitler can spend his time?

I'd take them wanking in dorms over stealing my fucking surgical tools any day of the WEEK.
>>
BEAR
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>>174861363
At least them stealing your surgical tools impacts the round in some way.
If all they do is wank in the dorms, they might as well not be there at all. In which case, why couldn't they do it on some other server that actually allows it?
>>
FORCE
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>>174861363
I don't think that the solution to greytiders greytiding too hard is allowing them to erp
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>>174852402
>Carshalash

He's really funny
>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Station_13

is this accurate?
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>>174861845
>ctrl + f "sawbones"
>not a single result

Sawbones single handedly leaked the goonecode by paying the leaker 400 dollars to leak it, he's the most robust mofo in the game and best friends with most server owners.
>>
>>174861845
>mentions //vg// and /4chan/

REEEEEE
>>
Is there a specific palette I need to to use for SS13 sprites? Or is anything fine
>>
>>174862373
You expect too much if you think we have an art direction
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>>174862373
I wish there was a pallete
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>>174862416
>>174862459
So I take it I don't need to bother with a palette then
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>>174862534
I mean, it'd make it look way better and would make you not get laughed at by the other spriters, but it's hardly unprecedented.
Look up or eclair sprite sometime. The big one. That wasn't a joke item, it was in the game.
>>
which waifu is for hugs and headpats
>>
>>174862652
oh geez why did I look
>>
>>174857421
>>174859207
>>174859939

Also worth mentioning, if you're gonna be considering diona movement speed balancing, it's good to keep in mind the other ways besides hyperzine in which they can potentially get around faster in a pinch. A lot of such methods exist, and people tend to forget about them.

Detailed in another post a few threads ago here >>174762712
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>>174862652
>other spriters

Name one
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>>174863101
Couldn't help you there, although I know the coder (SWT) Discord has a Spriter tag
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>security officer
>captain is dead and braindead in medbay
>has so much stuff on him
>:s captain's braindead, taking the body to the brig
>warden stops me in the HALLWAY to STRIP HIM IN PUBLIC
>to everybody's fucking surprise, a diona nicks the captain's ID
>the warden doesn't even notice
>later this same diona strips and disposals the warden for 5 guns along with the all access
>this same warden fails to even bring in the hulk geneticist after cuffing him in a hallway, just leaving him there to come back immediately
TRIGGERED
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THIS DOES NOTHING, FUCKING NOTHING, REEEEEE!
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>>174863314
>warden stops me in the HALLWAY to STRIP HIM IN
PUBLIC
>to everybody's fucking surprise, a diona nicks the captain's ID
NOOOOOOOOO
STOP POSTING MY WORST NIGHTMARES TO THE THREAD
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>>174863314
>warden leaving the brig at all

You betta berieve dats a ahelp
>>
>Cozy fucking round as co chef in the kitchen
>made a fuckton of complex foods i'll probably not make again for a while
>fed a goose popcorn
>fed the chef turkey before he ate shit
good round, fucking cozy ass good round
>>
>>174863412
Not ENTIRELY, if he's going off to order more loyalty implants, shotguns, etc. and there's no HOS, fine. But if he's going off on Adventures or responding to threats like in the post, that's bad.
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>>174863405
I wanted to kill myself but the geneticist did that for me

In front of the warden

Who left him in the hallway cuffed, like that is going to stop himAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>
>>174863314
>mfw a sec officer was dragging me around after I got ZAS'd hard while he was also trying to chase that very geneticist
>Spessman loses blood!
Dumb fuckers
>>
When is vgstation going to stop making people quit and wait for it to reboot every time the round ends?
>>
>>174863401
Don't worry senpai i'll show you how its done.
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>Security pranks the chief engineer at the start of the round
>Chief wires engines directly to the grid
>Half of security melts
Devilish.
>>
>>174863510
when you code it
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>>174863401
this nothing made me -266 plasma in 10 minutes
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>>174863392
WHAT YOU DESERVE FOR STEALING THE KITCHENS KNIVES
BAHAHAHAHA
>>
>>174863580
YOU COULD HAVE GOTTEN THE SAME AMOUNT WITH ONE FUCKING PUMP, THE U-VENT IS THE BOTTLE NECK YOU KIKE
>>
>>174863581
Chef only needs 1 or 2 if he has a co-chef, he can share the third, right?
>>
>>174863580
>-266 plasma in 10 minutes

laughingMoMMIs.png
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>>174863505
I was more concerned with the geneticist murdering me and the braindead but still connected warden than your safety beyond getting you out of space

>>174863549
>smashing eletrified grilles in maintenance
>other officer runs straight into it stone dead
Security makes my blood boil
>>
>try and fail a lot with scripting a word filter for swear words on tcomms
>clown teaches me some cool things
>still a lot to learn
Tcomms tech is pretty much the one job which I haven't done nearly everything in. I'll probably do it on a smaller channel next time like engineering or science though so I annoy less people until I figure it out. It is fun though actually having a job where you go through the learning curve again with.
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>>174863549
ban when?
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>>174863612
>uvent bottleneck
>not ventcrawling into the plasma miner chamber and stacking 5 scrubbers and a layer manifold leading out the east wall

evenmorelaughingMoMMIs.jpeg
>>
>warden was going to mass driver the brain of some tator or something out of the chapel
>chaplain throws his book in and jumps into the mass driver
>I press the button not entirely realizing he was IN the mass driver
>he gets spessed
I felt so bad but was laughing to hard to really feel that bad. Worth the bwoink. At least an admin poofed him back.
>>
>>174863314
the warden then engaged him in fisticuffs and spaced the ling out of the shuttle
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>Be Vista Cybertaurus, CyberMan
>After a mistake in the mass driver, I am resurrected as pure flesh, and tasked to become metal again.
>Riccardo the Saint assists me, and I become a Spiderbot
>Accidentally space myself again
>Go on the Final Journey to Silicon Heaven for my last task on the mortal plane was done
>Get sent to a room full of burning, Silicon Hell
>Sawbones: welcome to silicon hell asshole

And thus ends the story of Cybertaurus.

Thanks for finally giving me the excuse to retire this shit character
>>
>>174863392
I broke all your glasses AND kept your corgis.
>>
>>174863739
>stacking scrubbers
MoMMI, I have some bad news...

>>174863753
Still grossly incompetent for a warden
>>
>>174863632
All you had to to do was shake me up not drag me around chasing some guy
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>>174863657
never because he's the admins pet
>>
>>174863863
He was hitting like a fucking truck, I didn't realize until it was too late that he was a hulk because of the space suit

Sorry but a lethal active threat is more important than an assistant
>>
>>174863657
Ban for what? Wiring engines directly to the grid? You do realize that way more efficient right?

And he wasn't electrifying doors or anything either. Security's death were entirely due to their incompetence that round. There's a reason they're called shitcurity.
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>>174863975
>You do realize that way more efficient right?
Efficient at what, precisely.
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What the fuck happened in the Zoo that round? There were like 8 dead greyshirts with Ushankas and knives. None of them had any ID's neither.
>>
>>174864063
They may have been Russians, which are hostile NPCs that look like humans.
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>>174864045
SMES's have to charge, and can be fucked with.

Also wiring engines to the grid is not a bannable offense.
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>>174863770
>kept your corgis.
It's fine. I didn't have enough demand to need more meat anyway.
>>
>Pain responds to Renovama's unban request
>his response indicates he only skimmed the first few posts and didn't read the full thread
>it makes no mention of Renovamaa's general spergyness and unfamiliarity with playing captain on VG
>Bigmin lazyness could be just the miracle that Renovama needs
>if Renovama justs plays it cool he could make it out of this one...
HE BLEW IT HAHAHAHAHA
>>
>>174861932
Then add it in you absolute dork
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>>174864130
The maximum amount of power all three SMESs can chsrge with (not counting component upgrades) is 600kW. The maximum amount of power the station needs is far, far less.
>>
>greytide
Only benefit is a starting point that lets you snowball to glory or be left with nothing. Most robust tide.

>blacktide
You don't feel like playing with the best, so you settle for mediocrity. You will never get those coin glubbs, but at least you start with good access and a nice suit.

>greentide
You showed your unrobustitude and died, now you have to settle for the scraps.

>redtide
Stop
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>>174864130
>Also wiring engines to the grid is not a bannable offense.
A lot of things aren't. But don't pretend wiring to grid roundstart is anything but nonantag grif.
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>>174864301
>not making autismforts on botany to stash everything valuable from the station
>>
>5:33
wew
Has a PR ever been made with more people against it?
>>
>>174864590
Yes
>>
>>174864301
>Trader Tide
Bring Bolas to 'sell' on the station that mysteriously always end up around the ankles of Wizards and ops. Tide of valids

>Silent Tide
Start a blood feud with sec using only invisible walls and the sound synthesizer. Tide of champions.
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>>174864301
>>greentide
>You showed your unrobustitude and died, now you have to settle for the scraps.

Pleb. The cream of the crop of greentiders are roundstart dionas who either start geneticist or go to genetics to get monkeyed into nymphs intentionally.
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That was one of the fastest AI losses I've seen.
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>>174864912
the poor AI accidentally outed itself 5 minutes into the round
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>>174864301
blacktide is harm because it only encourages sec to arrest IAAs for simply existing in the brig or the bridge
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>not maining clown
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>get tazed and pulled to the bar autoborger
>scream mals all over, flash a borg after getting up 1 tile away from the borger
>me and another guy start robusting but comes detective and pulls away the borg
>borg tasers my buddy, i pull him up get a suit and break into bridge
>shitter detective there asking me what I'm doing, seriously?
>borg comes in again, tasers me, cuffs and pulls me to borger again
>i get up 1 tile away again and make a jackety sax to sci where i resist out the cuffs
>find an ion gun and go to bridge where cap already hacking in
>I do it too, after destroying 2 turrets the AI suicides

Detective has the gal to say "i didn't know it was malf" when he clearly saw the autoborger.
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>>174841489
>My cake
The cake was given to you and it can be taken away from you through the same way it was made (legal mumbo jumbo). Though I'm not Murrican.
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>>174865039
Yeah no they should be doing that regardless. You literally exist to be a deliberate inconvenience.
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>>174865218
an inconvenience, but not in an illegal way, otherwise they're just an assistant in a suit
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>>174865039
>>174865218
>It's a good idea to arrest IAAs for being where they belong and get default access to

That's some banworthy levels of shitcurity and ignorance.
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>>174865708
It's the best fucking idea ever.
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>not taking head role just to hang around bridge and piss off everyone by recalling
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>>174865879
Well alright, enjoy your security job ban.
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>>174865998
Okely doke, thanks thought police.
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>play ss13 for the first time in a few years
>vore, furry and futanari roleplay
>there and penises and vaginas now
>people running around the station shooting semen everywhere

Granted this was one server, but still pretty fucking strange
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>>174866727
You have entered the shitpile erp servers anon, abandon that shit immediately and come to /vg/, we don't do that crap.
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>Vote is 5/34
>Only people that want it are collab fuckbuddies and digitalis
>Chicken himself tells them to fucking knock it off
>They reopen it the very next day anyway while cursing the players and calling them all retarded for no wanting it
>Say that the votes don't matter and that only peoples reasoning for it not being in matter
>Different people state multiple times why its a fucking shit change
>PJB only replies with the fact he doesn't like it with him threatening to self merge it if people keep calling it a bad change
>Collabs continue their circlejerk and say he dindu nuffin
>It'll still somehow get merged in the end

Is tg really somehow worse than this shit?
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>>174867229
If you think its going down the shitter and actually fear itl be merged anyways, make a bunch of screencaps, say to the chicken you fear they will push it through, show PJB isnt capable/his change is shit and everyone has said how shit is it with him just saying "fuck you" and the chicken will close it.

Pomf has the final word in everything, just ask him to do it and shit gets done.
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>>174867229
I voted for it and I'm not a collaborator.
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>>174867438
That's nice digitalis.
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>>174867475
I'm not him either.
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>>174867229
TG is just a different flavor of shit.
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I'd accept the piping change if devices weren't so weak that it was necessary to layer or do the autism footwork of stretching it out to be huge for a similar return
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>>174867229
>Different people state multiple times why its a fucking shit change
Arguments have been made on both sides.

The problem with Github arguments is that everyone has an opinion, meaning we lack an impartial arbiter to decide which argument is correct.

Obviously each side is going to say that the other side's argument is shit, because they thought otherwise, then they'd BE on that side.
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>>174867229
This PR is the reason I started a folder called coderclub. It's clear to me why PJB prefers Reddit where he can police speech over this general when he also prefers people who don't agree with him not be allowed to speak and when he advocates for a collab-only channel in the coder Discord (which they apparently already have?)
If I could, I'd let the admin channel in the regular Discord be public - on an 8-hour delay or something because it *is* used to discuss the current round, but sadly I can't do that because I'm retarded. More secret channels is a step backwards, not forwards.
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>>174867638
Engineering got along just fine without the 5x boost before multi-layer piping was merged.
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>>174867648
"What if we make a feature that requires lower numbers in the future" Is a retarded argument and you know it. We already have power gloves and the railgun barely used why make it fucking worse?
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>>174867717
xenobio got along fine without their fun stuff too but that doesn't mean we have to take shit away from them
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>>174867742
You keep saying this thing and it's plain wrong, which is dishonest of you. Power gloves aren't used because people don't buy power gloves, not because it takes too long to get them useable.
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>>174867742
>We already have power gloves and the railgun barely used
Then the solution to that would be to decrease the power needed by them after this change goes through.

The alternative is to balance every future power-requiring feature around the availability of device layering, which will mean making them require device layering, which will just add more tedium to the setups when we could instead remove device layering and balance the power requirements against single devices, resulting in the same relative result but less pipe placement for the engineers.
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>>174867787
Xenobio's fun stuff doesn't present visible future balance problems.
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>>174867853
see
>>174867636

don't need 5x buff just more than they do now
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>>174867957
meant to be 638 not 636 my bad
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>>174867957
I believe you linked the wrong post, that one goes to /mhg/.
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>>174867229
There's no way it's going to actually get merged, right?
No matter how strongly they feel, there's still a large disparity in votes. They can't be that inconsiderate, right?
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>>174867957
Dual swords are the best weapon
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>>174868046
They have been before.
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/10132
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>>174868016
That's a reasonable argument.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be the one most people are using.

It may be worth your time to post in the PR, or in a Github issue, a request for a new PR with the changes made by the current one plus buffs to the affected atmospheric devices to compensate for them.
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Why not just remove layering, and resprite single pipes/objects to LOOK like they're 5-layered, and tweak the effectiveness numbers so putting down one pipe (that looks 5-layered) is the same as if you actually, individually 5-layered in the current system?

That way it reduces the number of spawned objects in the world, and the number of separate calculations, while also reducing the number of clicks/tedium/time consumed setting things up.

Makes future rebalancing and changes more simplified too.

Would anyone NOT be okay with that?
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>>174868431
Removing layering makes no sense as it was a great idea and sometimes you don't need or want to make a 5 layered object tile, Im a newbie engie but I just don't see the point of the pr or your solution, I sometimes enjoy setting up a bunch of pipes in the same tile but I never enjoy or ever will enjoy having to go to space and make a long ass pipe thing just so I can have 5 HE pipes and neither do I want for every HE pipe to be a 5 manifold. Keep the layers in, close the pr and tell PJB to quit being a autist and the problem is solved.
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>>174867651
The admin channel is mostly shittalking players the admins dislike. If you made it public it'd never be used and admins would message each other on discord to shittalk instead
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>>174868910
Why would you ever NOT use five of every device, though?

If you don't use five layers of each device you put down, you're being intentionally suboptimal. Why would you want your power output to be suboptimal?
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>nobody plays diona
>but everyone complains they are OP as if this is a fucking fighting game
>lets nerf diona into the ground so they never get played

https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/14721
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>>174868910
>Removing layering
The intent is to remove 5x scrubbers and other devices errytim, you can layer pipes and whatnot as usual.
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>>174842874
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>>174868080
What did he mean by this?
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how TOO fix diona

>slightly faster base movement speed (still slower than human)
>unaffected by zas
>chemicals don't work on them
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>>174868974
Maybe its because im a newbie engie but I just don't see the need to fully overkill a engine. Ill set up the SME, try out the TEG, patch up any holes and fix the piping if a minor explosion happens, but I don't really care to have a 1 Niggawat SME or husking 15 greyshits when I wire it to the grid. Maybe im the wrong here.
>>174869097
Sorry, I was thinking about devices but wrote it badly
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>>174869072
If a race is unplayable without circumventing its defining trait, then the race should be rethought.
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>>174869193
You are the minority. The average Engineer/MoMMI plays specifically to maximize their builds, not just to get some measure of power flowing.
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>>174866864
this.
everything this game stands for is slowly eaten away at shit that should be left on r34.
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>>174869248
Guess its just something that comes when you do the job a lot more then, ah well, long as the engies can actually fix breaches decently, I have no issue with it
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>>174869193
That's like saying you play science but don't use xenobio so there's no problem removing it
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>>174869394
I'm pretty sure he's against removing layered devices.
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>>174869153
>solarious
el-oh-el
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does anyone have that one screenshot of the vox in that room in maint and theyve got like the nuke disc and shit in their massive shitbird hoard
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>>174869394
I am not seeing how me saying a feature should be kept despite not using it too much being the same as me saying its alright to remove a part of a department I don't play.
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I just got my computer built, I've waited so fucking long it's not even funny. YEARS I've waited with actually getting the parts and having to wait for more since there were complications.
But I finally did it
I built my computer
And BYOND hates it
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>>174869470
attack the post not the poster :^)

What's wrong with my diona idea
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>>174869153
>unaffected by ZAS
Yet everything else is? Come off it.
Though I do agree a slightly faster base movement and the inability to use chemicals IS a fair tradeoff given their already OP regeneration.
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>>174869654
Since they can't go faster than their base movement there would be no reason not to wear magboots and enable them at all times. It's better to just let them be zas immune rather than powergame.

Plus, trees are knocked over by silly winds unless it's tornado wins
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>>174869508
sorry it came off as you being against because of the newbie engineer not seeing the point in power fun stuff I'm tired I'll go eat a fat bag of dicks
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What if I told you that you don't even need piping to run a 10MW SME that lasts the whole round?
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>post yfw when lifeweb weekend is over

i want more
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>>174869726
Its fine anon, we all make mistakes, get some rest and come back when you are better.
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>>174869736
What if I told you some people enjoy piping a complex SME despite it not being needed?
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>>174869815
What if I told you that you can pipe a complex SME without using layered devices?
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>>174869716
Well think of it from a real perspective, how could a tree resist space wind meanwhile lockers, people, and other shit is sucked into space by it's vacuum. And if they were faster, wouldn't that warrant them being faster than magboots at that point?
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>>174869874
>space wind

Yes but they are space trees, so the space cancels out and it becomes wind vs trees and we all know that irl trees win 99.9% of the time.

I have lost the argument, but I think being unzasable would be cool
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>>174868921
I'm not so sure that admins don't already do that, but you're sadly not far off
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>>174869854
What if I told you that people still enjoy piping a complex SME with layers?
What if I told you that it's not about what people "can" do but rather what they enjoy doing?
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>>174839971
Putting server address in Open doesn't do anything for me anymore? Any fix?
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>>174870015
Why do people enjoy piping a complex SME with layered devices?

What difference in their enjoyment is made by layered devices vs non-layered devices?
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>>174870087
Not him but effort and reward are always tied together. A complex time investment with good output is naturally more rewarding to someone than a quick 5 minute rig that works alright.
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>>174870087
not him but "Fun" is the key ingredient to enjoyment in anything you do.
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>>174870205
>>174870223
That's not my question.

I get why people like making complex setups.
What I don't get is why it is significantly more enjoyable when you get to tap the RPD five times every time you lay a device instead of one. I don't get what the ability to layer devices, in and of itself, adds to the experience.
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>>174870291
The ability to layer pipes allows for a lot of flexibility and experimentation. One person can make a small one tile SME and another can make a large multi-shard SME, and both will be stable.
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>>174870434
LEWD IMAGE

THIS IS A CHRISTIAN BOARD

LEWD IMAGE
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>>174870434
To be clear, I'm speaking about layering pipe devices, not pipes as a whole.

Additionally, what allows people to make a small one-tile SME is, in effect, the increased efficiency offered by layered devices, not the layering itself.
They could make a one-tile SME just as well if scrubbers and vents were buffed to 5x their current transfer rate and couldn't be layered. Layered devices in your given example do not offer any unique functionality.
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that was a very fun lowpop round. the kosmo's ruse was perfectly planned
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So I decided to tinker with wall sprites today for "fun".

Currently, wall mount items just stack on top of the wall block, and while this looks good on the south face of a wall, it looks sloppy on the east, west, and north faces of a wall block. They also take up the entire tile.


A 3/4ths perspective view for walls looks nice, but you then run in the problem of only being able to place wall mount items like air monitors and fire alarms on one wall surface in a room, as all the others are totally flat, and making perspective correct sprites for the objects would mean they'd look like a couple of pixels, or a line of pixels from the player's view. Not exactly readable.

That's why the bird's eye "Zelda" perspective like pic related is a good fit for the game. You avoid the problems of not being able to place objects on any wall surface, each wall surface has equal visual real estate so objects are readable at a glance as they are now but perspective corrected, and you have the full periphery of the room to place wall objects.

But the downside (the biggest one) is that in order to make this work, walls and the way mappers build them would have to be rethought.
Wall tiles serve as a wall for anything bordering them. With the 'Zelda' perspective, the walls would have to be doubled up. If there were two neighboring rooms, you'd have to place one wall tile to serve as the wall for that room, and another to serve as the wall for the opposite room. It effectively means that instead of an average wall being one tile thick, they'd all be two tiles thick instead. This would mean a total rebuild of the current maps to accomodate this new perspective. There's also the issue of doors needing to be resprited, and doubled up as well (they'd effectively be two-tile doors, but linked so they behave like one object).

Sorry for the wall of tism, but ever since I started playing, my biggest thought has been 'this game could use some graphical polish'.
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>be double agent tcomms tech
>decide to hatch master ruse to get my target
>implant self with uplink implant
>buy syndie ID
>set up a woodies got wood tcomms script to activate by voice activation, and use syndie ID to make it look like my target was the one accessing the console so he goes to perma
>then will get myself caught with my syndie ID, go to perma, murder him with an esword from my implant, before stuffing his head in a potted plant so it can't be found
>all goes according to plan, activate tcomms script while I'm being interrogated so they won't think I could have activated it because I would be right there with them
>target is never arrested because he somehow convinces the detective it wasn't him
>wait out for awhile and then resort to good old fashioned snitching instead
>target suicide bombs when he gets caught, nearly killing the HoS
>I escape with a syndie space suit and emag from my implant
>make it to engineering escape pod as the shuttle docks
>get cocky and toy with the HoS over comms
>get lasered to death with a minute left before the shuttle leaves
Kind of wish my plan went off smoother but what plan does?
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>>174861127
>give antag powers
>kills you with them because valid
Very rewarding.
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>>174871042
Will a Zelda-style perspective work when wall sprites must be confined to 32x32?
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psi research ported from lifewebs Orbital Station 13 when
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>>174870610
Layered pipes are fun, don't use them if you don't like them but don't take it away from people who enjoy it.
Is it so hard to understand?
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>>174871091
>get cocky and toy with the HoS over comms
Oh shit, I never heard you. I must've never got my station bounced radio after I got cloned. I ended up finding you via the tracking implant

>Get cloned
>See perma emagged open and there's a hole in perma hydro
>FUCK
>check tracking implants
>"fore port maintenance"
>OH GOD WHERE IS THAT
>run around in arrivals north maint opening lockers and following the emag trail until I panic and run back to the implant tracking console
>Auxiliary Engineering
>Ok, I know what that is
>get knocked down from space wind for 30 agonizing seconds
>use teleporter to get to Auxiliary Engineering and the rest is history
And since I got exposed to the shard while trying to find you, I hallucinated a bunch of catbeasts beating the shit out of me with a fake emag in my pocket after you died.
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>>174871310
I have yet to hear an explanation for why layered pipe devices are inherently more fun than non-layered pipe devices.
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>>174871363
Why do you need reason for it? I can ask the same, why do you think non-layered pipes are more fun? Some people like layers, other people don't, there's no reason. You want to remove content because you don't like something majority likes.
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>>174871159
That's kind of why I said walls would have to be two tiles thick instead of a single tile, because otherwise, there's not enough space for wall mounted shit to be recognizable at that perspective

It wouldn't need additional coding changes, but would need maps to be rebuilt, as I mentioned.
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>>174870610
If you want to make one device work as well as five layered devices, then it's clear you don't care about the functionality of layered devices.
I'm beginning to think you just don't like how they look.
>>174871363
"Fun" is a subjective term, and unless you seriously play engineer or mommi, you simply won't understand.
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>>174871310
Layered pipes are fun and very useful, they keep atmos orderly and allow for impossible projects.

Layered devices are the opposite of fun, making a good build just a matter of tediously adding more and more devices.
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>>174871360
I was talking with the detective who still thought I was in perma so I just assumed you were with him. How did the engineer talk his way out of being blamed for the tcomms script?
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>>174871513
>why do you think non-layered pipes are more fun?
Greater density of clicks to conceptual complexity.
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>>174871363
Are you really asking for a quantifiable measure of fun?
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Whats the best armor and helmet thats not adminbus only?
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>>174871635
Some people like clicking a lot and they like that complex look with shitton of devices.
But I see there's no point talking to you, you just want to remove it because you don't like it, even though most of players like it.
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>>174871725
probably deathsquad ones, you can get them sometime at spessmart
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>>174871604
We still charged him for it, it's just that the most we could charge him with was Sabotage, Possession of Makeshift Weapons, and Breaking and Entry, which is 18. Since he had been there for *quite* a long time, (technically, the brig timer is supposed to count down as soon as you detain them, but it's kind of a finicky rule because often you're spending that time determining which crimes they did to begin with.) I decided to just give him a tracking implant (reduction of 10 minutes to sentence) and release him, as he had been in our custody for well over the remaining 8 minutes.
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>>174871753
This is a bit of a tangent, but are you aware of this game called NetHack?
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>>174871753
>some people like clicking a lot

Is this supposed to be an argument or a joke, I honestly cannot tell.
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Who is the best c*der we have left?
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>>174871893
To be honest all the good ones don't want to code here anymore.
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>>174871893
Me
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>>174871863
I'm not sure there is an argument in either direction when the question is "tell me why it's more fun"
There's a reason reviews (in various mediums but mainly bideo gayms) leave "but is it fun" as a separate point because it's a feeling, it's not really something you can rationalise
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>>174871794
I probably should have looked up the specific spess laws to guarantee he'd get locked up. AIthough I kind of assumed he'd have syndie gear on him when you captured him, either that or you'd validkill him for putting WGW over comms.
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>>174872057
Fun is just a buzzword when you cant actually think of any reasons why the feature is good. Don't use it.
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>>174872106
Oh yeah I forgot all about the WGW. And yeah, he was super clean except for some ghetto weaponry he had because he "heard vamp reported" (by a clown)
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>>174872140
Really? I thought we were all playing the game to have fun.
Guess not
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>>174871893
did nexis leave again? he isnt the best but he beats the rest celluar modular ghbnjmkl.;
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>>174872173
He's just as put off if not more about the recent shenanigans since he's quit a few times than that over less vitriolic shit than that. He stopped coding two months ago.
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>>174872140
This is one of the most retarded memes to come out of /v/.
Fun is a feeling of contentment and enjoyment you get out of doing something. Just because your autismal brain has trouble with the concept because it can't be quanitified, does not mean it doesn't exist.
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>>174871513
I don't think non-layered pipes are more fun.
But layered pipe devices present an eventual balance concern, which is an argument for their removal. I have yet to hear a good argument against their removal.
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>>174872320
If you cant quantify it or qualify it you cant use it in an argument.
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>>174872320
The problem is when fune is used to defend a thing. Because usually (like now) there are also people that find that same thing unfun. So you can INSTEAD put forth reasons to keep or remove thing. Or you can instead bounce fun not-fun fun not-fun against each other ad infinitum, which to me seems would only be fun for huge dummies.
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>>174872385
So what you're saying is that happiness isn't real because you've never experienced it?
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If I knew jack shit about coding,
how hard would it be to learn to code for ss13?
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>>174872439
That block building is leaning way too much towards the kid's left
It also goes 5, 4, 3, 1 in block width from the bottom up
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>>174871576
>If you want to make one device work as well as five layered devices, then it's clear you don't care about the functionality of layered devices.
>I'm beginning to think you just don't like how they look.
The reasoning for removing layered devices is that power requirements for features need to be balanced the existence of layered devices, lest someone use the 5x boost to just blow through the power requirements easily. This means that the power requirements must be so high as to require layered devices. This means that engineers are now forced to lay down five of every device they use to meet the requirements, when we could instead remove device layering and balance the power requirements of features around non-layered devices.

To put it simply, the goal of the PR is to prevent it becoming necessary to always use five of everything just to reach respectable (by the eventual balance standards) levels of power.
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>>174871567
So what would it look like if you had a two-tile-thick wall and destroyed one of the tiles?

Or do you mean making walls single 64x64 objects? Because that could be done, but that would require coding changes.
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>>174871567
I think most of the wall-mounted shit looks different enough that, even at this perspective, you can still tell them apart even if you can only see a small fraction of the item in question. I don't think the problem is recognizing the items, but conveying the same amount of visual information at all angles. APCs, for instance, needs to display their current power state (not charging, charging, and fully charged), locked/unlocked, and the current power settings for equipment, lightning, and environment. How do you convey that amount of information when you only have a handful of pixels to work with?
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>>174872523
That seems like a reasonable argument. I've refused getting into the argument on whether layered pipes should get in or not because I don't really play engineering or MoMMI enough that it would be an issue for me, but I know for a fact that PJB has been wanting to balance tcomms and I know for a fact that he wants to balance power a *lot* (although I think the ideas for balancing power put forth in the design document were absolutely disgusting and shows a huge lack of awareness about how rounds play out), so balancing how you make power is a good first step.
I mean, I've gotten involved a bit anyway because I just don't like PJB or the way collabs seem to handle the community being other people than them, but never on layered pipes themselves
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>>174871567
Most of our wall-mounted objects are pretty small.
What about moving the midpoint of the east-west walls to the center of the tile, like how the north-south walls are? That way you could display sufficiently small sprites on the north face of those walls.
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>>174871893
all good ones went to lifeweb
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>>174872775
None of the coders play lifeweb, only the erpers and metaclubbers do
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>>174872801
celt is a coder and metaclubber
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>>174872489
It's fucking easy dude what are you retarded?
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>>174872867
Celt quit being a coder in january remember?
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>>174872747
I feel like a lot of the backlash over the PR is due to PJB's poor handling of public relations.
He thinks of himself as above the rest of the community and, what's more, he openly says as much.
All it does is make people angry at him. It's counter-productive even to his own ends, but he seems unable or unwilling to restrain himself.
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>>174872939
DELET THIS
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>>174872939
Oh god I dunno whether to put this in my shitty art for our my shitty waifus folder
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>>174872907
Coders don't become collaborators by virtue of being good at public relations. Rather the autism that defines your typical good coder/collaborator makes them the exact worst at it.
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>>174872939
>>174873007
Who is this supposed to be?
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>>174872904
he should quit being alive
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>>174873007
I don't think it's anyone from /vg/ but it's both shitty art and it looks like some kind of shitty waifu
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>>174873065
I dunno found it on reddit and had a good laugh
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>>174873028
Didn't Probe become a collab by being a good guy?

Though yeah generally collaborators are the kind of people who should stick to writing and reviewing code, not exercising creative control.
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>>174873085
Whew that was meant for >>174873065 but instead I gave myself a (You)
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>>174872523
You DO know that any engines that require any piping are not even needed to power the station.
And you DO know that the standard set up is good enough, with some extra space piping and loop connecting, is enough to pull out a 10MW+ SME that will last 3+ hours, right?
Your arguement is completely void with these two points in terms of station power. People add the layers because it makes the engines even safer so they don't have to worry about the engine as much, even in the event of the sabotage it can clear faster.
The layers are mostly more useful in atmospherics autism. It has nothing to do with engineering at all, if you think it is then you're just as retarded as PJB.
Now stop being an idiot and trying to push your dumb ass balance changes on everyone.
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who is your favorite admin
mine is mustardtiger
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>>174873182
The argument is not being made in terms of station power. At least not the current state of station power.

The PR is a preliminary measure for future power consumption rebalancing as well as new features that require power.
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>>174873135
Probe became collaborator because the current ones got fed up with it. Or just because he asked pomf and pomf doesn't know how to say no.
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>>174873326
No it isn't. If it was he would have said this in his opening, saying it comes in part of power balance. It's not.
This does not do ANYTHING to balance power. All it does it gimo atmospherics. Why don't you see that? Do you even play engineering OR atmospherics? Have you ever actually built an SME? Or a TEG?
Have you ever even dabbled in cooling set ups for yourself instead of copying others?
Cause I fucking doubt it, you spastic.
You want to balance power, then you start on power usage and output. You don't start randomly gimping features with no explanation why and then crying when people say no.
Pomf already said No to the nerf of rad collectors and said No to this. Rad collectors have been nerfed already, and engineering doesn't need any stupid changes like this yet.
If PJB wants to change engineering then he should start with a checklist PR with his goals for it and start there and maybe learn to take criticism like a man.
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>>174873586
>gimp atmospherics

Why are we not talking about the fact atmos was given this buff completely arbitrarily, and that nothing was balance around it?
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>autistic engines are useless and should be removed in favor of a single one y/n
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>>174873586
But PJB's been wanting to change power for a LONG time where have you been at
Here, scroll to page 14:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10A9BMxkpHzBdcepMN3-K0UmoOnref0hQ179W8gxvokA/edit
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>>174873721
>turning us into vore
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new gamemode idea

protomolecule outbreak
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>>174873894
I like the expanse too, but it's a bit soon to be adding shit based on it.
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>>174873706
2 years ago because it was something the players want and that they like as a feature. It makes for creative and interesting set ups. There is nothing wrong with it, if there was maybe more than 3 coders who don't play would dislike it.
>>174873735
That says Sood and PJBs part on engineering says nothing about power and talks more about making engineering more about maintenance.
Also
>design document
Maybe they should put things into the github under a goals section or an issue PR for actual dicussion.
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>>174873825
web of life :')
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>>174873929
There is absolutely nothing creative about placing the same vent 5 times. There is absolutely nothing interesting about placing the same vent 5 times.

And the amount of time that has passed is completely irrelevant. What matters is how well it fits to the system we have now, and the answer to that is POORLY.
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>>174873929
Are you sure it doesn't?
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>>174873920
It's been out for like 6 years.
Wouldn't be a fun gamemode though,
should have a map of the behemoth
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>>174874012
Anything can be released, it's when it becomes popular that the timer starts ticking before it becomes appropriate.
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>>174872907
It's because he's 16. Puberty is a difficult time in life. You're all hopped up on hormones and you don't have the maturity yet to handle a simple disagreement.
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>>174872565
Hmm, hadn't thought about that to be honest
wonder how easy it would be to code a destroyed state for the wall that can be passed through

>>174872753
there's actually a tileset like that in the game files, 'iron' walls that go with the rest of the craftable wall types for different ores and shit. They could be easily repurposed for metal and rwall tiles. (you would have to make matching window and door tiles though)

But yeah, as >>174872638 points out the issue is how to display the appropriate info with less pixels available. I suppose what you could do is make new sprites for wall mount objects that the player sees placed on the wall, but when you mouse over it you get to see the 'full' sprite (in this case, what's already being used) that displays the information fully.
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>>174873586
>If it was he would have said this in his opening, saying it comes in part of power balance.
You assume PJB is level-headed and capable of calmly stating his reasoning to those who disagree with him.

Early on in the PR comments I specifically asked him whether this PR was meant to prevent engineers needing to use five of everything to obtain, by eventual balance standards, respectable levels of power, and he confirmed it.
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>>174874160
>he is a teenager, he is pumped full of hormones, he cant compute
Do danish boys get governamental enforced estrogen injections daily, because otherwise his pms spergouts are not excused by teenage hormones at all.
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>>174874281
BELGIAN
NOT DANISH
REEEEE
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>>174874247
>but when you mouse over it you get to see the 'full' sprite
BYOND is incapable of doing mouseover anything.
It doesn't even register the position of the mouse unless you click on something.
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>>174874308
Waffle eating druggies, discount scandinavia, same shit
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>>174874247
>wonder how easy it would be to code a destroyed state for the wall that can be passed through
You also have to account for people building new walls, what if they only build their wall one tile thick?
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>40 people voted on the layers shit
Why don't these people vote on any other PRs? They obviously all have accounts, they know where to go and how to vote.

Why is it that most PRs get 10-15 votes at most?
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>>174874483
Yeah, the double wall idea seems shitty when you get into the details.

>>174874380
well shit

Guess I'll experiment some more. Going to try and tweak those iron wall tiles I mentioned (I think Hippie uses these for walls, this is what they look like)
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>>174874597
Most of them people are neutral towards most prs or just dont care anon, but when someone is trying to force shit that is awfull and has the posibility of fucking up a department, people band together.
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>>174874709
The iron walls look like they could work if you decrease the "interior" space and play with the shading on the sides.
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>>174874597
Mostly because PJB is going bonkers

I actually think his change is sensible, but I don't even want to +1 the PR because I think he is actually having a mental breakdown and I don't want my name attached to that.

All the reaction is not really against the change (which is just going back to a more classic spessman experience we had for years), but against the way PJB is flipping out.
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>>174874790
This isn't the first time he's gone nuclear, either.

I don't think we have a single collab with less tact than him.
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>go check out tgstation to see how different it is from vgstation
>do atmos tech so i can see if their system is good or not
>ask for help
>WTF WHYD YOU GO ATMOS IF YOU DONT KNOW FUCKING RETARD READ THE WIKI HONK~
>get robusted and spaced
>guy was a changeling so he got away with it

their supermatter fucking blows every other game though i swear
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>>174874991
tg has so much cool shit, too bad everyone there is a drooling retard
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>>174875126
Like what anon?
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>>174875253
lavaland, some of the goonchem, cool botany plants, abductor mode, devil mode, cool antag items (his grace), you can have a marauder during nuke ops without admin shittery. probably more that i forgot
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>>174875393
Lavaland was mostly meh, chem in goon felt mostly shit and overtly complicated to me, explain botany please, abductor seems alright but nothing major, explain devil, explain the items and that seems busted as shit.
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>>174875514
lavaland has cool bosses you can fight, you can play as lizardpeople/golems

goonchem has cool secret recipes, like voltagen which makes electric grenades or vampire serum. botany has plants like deathweed, a tree that gives birth to guns, you can make blunts out of any plant, so you can be a alternative to medbay if they are shit (on vgstation, even if you can breed the chem that heals internal damage, no-one ever uses it because lol botanics) and other fun plants can be made. Devil is something akin to fallen from lifeweb, you get people to sign contracts with you and they gain power. If you collect enough souls through contracts, you become a archdevil and you can do infernal shit etc.

as for traitor items, see for yourself https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Syndicate_Items
the list is huge
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>>174875514
>lavaland is meh
someone hasnt gotten a voice of god and yelled BEGONE THOT over the intercom while shooting people with the gatfruit you found in an abandoned botany ship while youre practically immune to damage from the Khornate berserker armor you got reinforced with goliath plates and your spirit sword and stand
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>>174867229
>digitalis sided with the c*ders
truly the most hated player on the server
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>>174875706
Interesting, ill check it out, thanks
>>174875759
Ill admit I didnt but the normal gameplay was mostly saving miners from dying, mining a bit, upgrading the pk and extracting within a hour, maybe I just got unlucky?
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>>174875921
you have to dig deeper
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>>174875921
unlucky is the norm on lavaland, i practically main shaft miner on tgstation and i rarely ever get an absolutely bonkers round

most of the time you lag out and get robusted by 12 goliaths or finally open a necropolis chest and get the Sord (3.14 brute damage a swing).

but those games where you kill an ash drake and walk up to its corpse while youre broken and bleeding, open the chest and see the dragons blood potion makes everything worth it
the dragons blood potion transforms you into a random thing between lizard/skeleton or a fucking ash drake, almost as powerful as the boss version
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>>174875706
>you can make blunts out of any plant
we have that
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>>174876391
thought you can do it only with ambrosia vulgaris/deus

oh well, time for deathberry blunts
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Why does not every job has maint access?
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>>174876560
You can do it with any grown item. I've made watermelon blunts before.
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>>174876675
so scientists stay in science, and paramedics have an actual job to do
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>>174876675
What would a botanist or chef need to do in maint? Or a scientist either, a assistant roaming maint is just so ingrained into the game and culture that it makes sense, but other jobs dont really have a need for it, do they?
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>>174876772
Nigguh
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I miss Surfer
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I miss waifu #386
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I miss (You)
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>>174877515
I want to remove Surfer's limbs
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>>174875706
>goonchem is better because i can turn myself into an antag with it
that shit is casualized as heck, the day they implement goonchem on /vg/ is the day the serbs really become VG
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I miss Avada.
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>>174873586
PJBs proposal does nothing to nerf atmospherics. 5x device applications fall under three categories. #1. Cases where it does fuck all because there's bottlenecks elsewhere in the system. #2. Cases where the same thing can be done by simply using more space. #3. Cases where it's fucking unnecessary and means your SME runs at -255 degrees instead of -260 degrees.

Being able to fit 45 devices within the 3x3 shard chamber is ridiculous and indefensible.
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>>174878525
You can fit 100 devices in a 3x3 shard chamber
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>>174878525
>he doesn't know
lol, learn atmospherics, noob.
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what would've been a boring round ended up being a ton of fun at the end there
>brain clone fades away as the shuttle slowly takes me out of the dreamworld
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>>174879008
I was pdaing everyone who ever came near us to just roll with it.
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>>174870610
>what allows people to make a small one-tile SME is, in effect, the increased efficiency offered by layered devices

This is a "one-tile SME".

No piping required at all. The vent is just for ventcrawling in as a mommi to get screenshot.

I think you meant "one-tile shard chamber", and even then, you're mistaken.
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Fuck you captain, I just wanted te get 100 potency wheat and you had to bully me and be a general faggot
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>>174879051
was that the shard that made felicity vomit everywhere last round?
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>>174879051
I only mentioned it because the poster I was replying to mentioned it in regard to layered pipe devices.
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>>174879063
What'd he do to you?
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>>174879184
Yeah. It broke my heart when he ordered a borg to space it.

Three people ran past the shard that round, and I have no idea why. last dozen rounds i've played mommi, nobody ever got anywhere near the nest from space.
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>>174879321
Clown here, I wanted to see the shard and did it mostly on purpose.
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>>174879051
how long would this last before it explodes
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>>174879460
I was ghosted and observing at that point, got a good laugh out of your "trip" to see the shard.
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>>174879051
madman
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>>174878525
Toxins require very specific temperatures.
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>>174878104
goonchem is good as long as secret recipes stay secret
a good fusion of baymed + goonchem would be the best system around
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>chubby slime girls when
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>>174879526
If you do it right? 3 hours or more, very likely. That means 2 air conditioners with supercap or better power cells in them and each set to custom cold level 15, and using the mommi's remote-canister-interface ability to let out the perfect amount of starting O2 in the chamber after cargo teleporting it in.

For the curious, if it isn't obvious, you use the supermatter shard's big crate to put larger objects inside of, such as the collector and O2 canister and air conditioners, one at a time, and use the rapid crate sending gun to teleport it to the location of the cargo telepad to stack everything onto that one tile.

The pic is not optimized, just thrown together as a proof of concept. With 2 air conditioners and coldest plasma in the collector, you'll be looking at 10MW and rising without the shard itself breaking 50 degrees and fluctuating back to the high negatives over the course of hours.
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>>174879051
>air conditioner
You're just meming there.
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>>174879870
Also, having a vent or scrubber or whatever inside is optionally useful if you want to enter the chamber as MoMMI to change power cells in the air conditioner(s) or refill the collector's plasma tank, or replace it with colder plasma later.

air conditioners can also be power toggled remotely by a MoMMI.

I think it's possible to get this SME built within 5 minutes of round start, assuming cargo doesn't fuck with your orders, and assuming nobody else is fucking with the TEG, so you can chill the plasma that starts in canisters in secure engineering storage in the prebuilt TEG cold loop in the time it takes for the cargo orders to arrive (shard, collector crate, rapid crate sender, cargo telepad).

>>174880121
I don't know what you're trying to imply. It works, try it yourself.
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>>174880248
>try it yourself.
oh fuck help the universe is destroyed
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>>174880421
5 max upgraded air freezers and I bet you the crystal would be fine with 7 emitters.
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>>174880803
oh god I'm still incompetent and everything is fucked
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>>174880850
>be mommi
>fuck up the SME in the roid
>pray the Autism Crab for new one until you get good
Oh no, so hard to learn engineering when you have a entire seperate station to practice it, even with a full science settup, material synthesizer, blueprints and unrestricted movespeed/carrying capacity for building materials
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>>174881014
>fuck up the SME in the roid
oh god why did the xenoarch give me the crystal
why are the miners mad at me
aaaaaaa
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>>174881014
how do you fuck up the magic power marshmallow on the roid? doesn't the one on the mining outpost automatically gain power from "thermal vents" or whatever?
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>>174881223
>the one on the mining outpost
the asteroid doesn't start with any supermatter
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>>174881131
>not building a chem dispenser at the derelict
>not making 7 freezer boards with your unlimited acid and metal
Anon, please, even if you don't trust yourself that much cooling down shit is easy
>>174881223
I just realized I meant derelict and wrote roid, sorry
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>>174881269
oh fuck, my bad I misread, ignore me
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>>174879051
>wiring it directly to the grid
DEVILISH
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>>174881296
Oh, no I can do the derelict
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http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&p=19503#p19503

But what did he mean by this?
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>>174881535
I was actually just trying to get it set up quickly, having ordered most of the parts from cargo and just rushing it nearby.

I really fucking wish you could order air conditioners and heaters from cargo, or at least fucking build them from scratch somehow. I guess not enough people actually use them, despite how handy they can be.
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>>174881774
dont laugh at me
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>>174881774
So that's what happened to nevill the devil
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>>174881774
free my nigga nevill hes a good boy
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>>174881876
It was pretty obvious nevill was doing the ban evade to make it last more.

FREE
MY
NIGGA
NEBBO
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>>174867229
The funny thing is the reason /tg/station morphed into the hellhole now known as TGstation, is because of coders ivory towering. Coders deciding what's best and becoming little github napoleons.
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Someone should fill out SOP and add it as a companion book to spacelaw, would be tight as fuck
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>Central hitting 14,000kpa and rising
I'm really glad that ended when it did. All fun and games until you can't easily breach.
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>>174882030
Probe already shitposts about himself in the thread and calls himself Caesar.
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>Dizor confirmed vox will get fat sprites
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>>174882201
or have the code changes be more descriptive and show the line between security/civilians/both
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>plan to have a chill round as assistant
>run to escape to be alone while buying PDA enhancements
>never tried spesspets app before
>roll it, get a corgegg
>hatches into a corgi
>name it IAN
>click one of the buttons that says 'walk'
>"IAN wants to visit the bar!"
>it clicks in my brain that the app wants me to physically walk to the bar on the station to satisfy IAN
>this is pretty cool!
>I walk over to the bar
>walk one step inside
>plasmaflood, starting from the bar
>I click IAN's 'walk' button again right as I realize what's happening and run back out of the bar
>see pic related
>die horribly

Did it know?
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How long does it take to vent a room of all its gas when you open a hole to space?
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>>174882309
I love dizor more now.
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>>174882309
VOX CANNOT GET FAT
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>>174882413
TO BAD IT'S GONNA HAPPEN! now hachi can be voluptious turkey bird!
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>>174882391
It's impossible. You end up with infintesimally small numbers, but you can't get to 0 gas
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>>174882451
BUT THIS RUINS MUH LORE

and nobody is willing to change that many clothe sprites or else many more clothes would have sprites for vox
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>>174882309
FAT VOX LIVERS BEING FOIE GRAS WHEN
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>>174882413

CHICKEN
W I N G
I
N
G
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>>174882505
Dizor IS a spriter and pigfucker
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>>174881774
>act complete shit
>ban evade
>"I just wanted to be banned :^)"
>"now I want to play again unban me"
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>shitty atmos nerf that does nothing but make things more tedious
removing layered piping

>good atmos nerf that would add more immersion to the game
gases are no longer magical and have real flow
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>>174882851
There's no system that works for that. Go ahead and experience LINDA on tg if you want your dose
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>>174864416
Great, so we agree that you shouldn't be banned for it.
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>>174881774
It really says something about /vg/ if he gets unbanned.

>join game as captain with ooc in ic name
>welderbomb
>shoot a guy into crit
>ban evade right after you get banned

Should've just self requested a ban for a few months lad
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>>174883227
He did self-request a ban several times but he kept getting it undone.
He did what he did to get himself banned and so it would stick because he literally couldn't stop playing. I don't think that's very good
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>>174879321
We got hit by meteors so we had to crawl the exterior to repair shit. Technically you'd have been nailed with a mommiban if anyone cared to ahelp it cause of the hazard you made. Use the derelict shard and ahelp for stuff or just play locally instead
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>>174883284
f1: "dear admins please ban me for 6 months saying "DO NOT UNBAN HIM EVEN IF HE BEGS" thank"

Instead it's a level of metafriending where you can break the rules and get unbanned because youre good pal the admin knows you were just kidding haha :)
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>>174883384
Probe said he needed more time away from the game though
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>>174883169
I've never played on TG, how does it work?
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>>174883476
Probe says he can't handle our shit anymore.
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>>174878525
We can talk all day about space. You make things take longer and have less room to do things in already too short rounds unless it's vamp/lingstended or shitter safari while still accomplishing nothing to deal with high engine numbers. Reducing the variety of things an atmos tech can do in one round does nothing to deal with high engine numbers. It's ridiculous and indefinsible.

Thanks for kicking toxins repiping in the nuts by the way. It'll be really fucking nice for it have even more rounds that end before your mix is ready to test. Stop burning the forest to get at a Robin.
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The fat vox clothes sprites are actually being worked on today lads so, this is gonna happen either way.
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>Murdering janitors that mopbucket but properly use signs and don't leave the space until it's dried
Is it autism?
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PJB is a furry and used to code for Paradise

How'd a furry end up running this codebase?
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>When a head has no idea how his department works
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Is there anyway to test what items a traitor can use on the test server?

I want to start trying to roll for antag, but I have no idea how the cult book works and whatnot.
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>>174884217
You can turn yourself into a wizard, changeling, and vampire on the test server and you can spawn a multitool that's actually an uplink
Other than that, try hosting your own server and giving yourself admin
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>>174884217
Wait. Traitors cant use the cultbook.

Elaborate on what you mean man
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>>174882664
no fat sprites until all regular sprites are done
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Unban morena, she was just acting like a cunt to everyone on purpose because she wanted to be banned :^)
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>tgw pjb managed to unite the server to hate him

Is he. Dare I say it, ourguy?
>>
>>174884831
He's the Jews
>>
>>174884490
>Wait. Traitors cant use the cultbook.
See this is why I need practice.

Sorry, I meant to say antagonist. I just want to get a very basic feel for antagonist roles/controls before trying them on the main server.

>>174884479
>You can turn yourself into a wizard, changeling, and vampire on the test server
Which tab is that under?
>>
>>174883992
>Have soap
>Have space cleaner
>Easy to put space cleaner in your bucket
>Easy to get more space cleaner
>Easy to get a chaplain to bless a water tank
>Chooses to slip with water, probably in high traffic too, and point at the sign like an autist for no reason other than he's a spiteful autist
What do you want me to tell you?
>>
>>174885116
>Which tab is that under?
spawn
>>
>>174856896
>>174857118
"I personally despise 4chan and reddit is where I learned about SS13." -PJB3005 (on plebbit)
>>
>>174884009
>Be around all the time
>Fix stuff
>Be around all the time
>Fix stuff a lot
>Be around all the time
>Help other people fix stuff/make stuff
>Gee wow billy you're around a lot and you fix gud, here, be a maintainer to help us share the load
>Spend too long away from the game and too long fixing stuff that you get sucked into "design" and not good gameplay
and here we are
>>
>>174885116
>wizard
Sandbox-Spawn "spellbook"
>changeling
Sandbox-Spawn "vial"
>vampire
I dunno, try "mask" or "stone" or something?
>>
>>174885346
stonemask or stone_mask
>>
>>174885314
>Spend too long away from the game and too long fixing stuff that you get sucked into "design" and not good gameplay

>trying to remove a unique feature to VG is 'good gameplay'
>>
https://www.reddit.com/r/CoD4/comments/12xij4/i_got_hacked_on_ps3please_help/
>>
>>174886319
what the fug
>>
>>174886654
Username
>>
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>>174886319
HAHAHA
>>
>>174886762
this can't be real
>>
>>174885209
>stop playing the game in ways /I/ don't like wah wah wah
>>
>>174886310
>Murdering janitors that mopbucket but properly use signs and don't leave the space until it's dried
>Is it autism?
>>stop playing the game in ways /I/ don't like wah wah wah
Two way street man
>>
>>174886762
>12 year old pjb gets hacked
>this makes him so angry he learns coding
>finds a small server of autists he can torment just like the hacker tormented him

POETRY
>>
>>174886762
this was pjb only 4 years ago
that was only 2013

why do we allow this absolute child to have any power over our servers code
>>
>>174886762
>playing cod 4 in 2013

cod 4 came out in like 2007...
>>
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lmao
>>
>>174886762
It's pretty cool that in 4 years pjb went from a dumb kid playing on a ps3 to a really competent coder. inspiring desu
>>
>>174887339
Pomf needs to pull the plug on the tower
>>
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>>174887357
shame he never grew up
>>
>>174887529
A hacker raped his ps3 when he was only 9, can you blame him for never growing up into a good person?
>>
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fun fact: Leslie Fish's best song is about 9/11
it's pro-gun and subtley racist against arabs
/ourgirl/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPYMS9a8ELE
>>
>>174887529
As bad as this is getting, it's worse that pomf isn't gonna save us
>>
Pjb is actually really cute :3 his reddit post history from 3-4 years ago is so CUTE
>>
>pjb is younger than 9/11
really makes you think
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>>174887339
>waaaaah nobody likes the stupid shit we want to implement
>waaaaaah they like things we hate
>guess we have to fuck with the system so we can get our way
>>
>pjb is gen z

no wonder he's so based
>>
>>174888306
>>174888213
>>174888031
All me
>>
ever wonder why people shitpost about the coders so much?
Cluster, pjb, nexis. They all opposed Kolith and he's been shitposting about them daily since.
>>
>>174887339
>make things debate oriented when we're in a community where people --ESPECIALLY CODERS -- double down on their position when anyone disagrees with them
>>
>>174888472
Cluster because he abandoned us
PJB because it's an unlimited salt mine of laughs
Haven't seen anybody shitpost about nexis desu, shame he isn't as active anymore
>>
>>174888229
I don't get how they aren't self-aware of what their goal actually is. Say you automagically reign in all the engines so you can make it an actual job. Congratulations, now it's an actual job that people can't just setup and fuckoff. It gets boring and repetitive fast and you have little wiggle room to modify an engine for round power and how much you can realistically accomplish on an autism engine for the average round.
>>
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Do not forget, brothers, the buildings blocks of our great github! Review the code and bring down the TG menace!
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>>174887920
I don't say this often, but you have some primo taste anon. Good shit.
>>
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>Medbay still can't give me retractable claws so I can SNIKT people
>>
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>>174887920
Leslie fish is an anarchist funny enough. Mostly in the 60's and 70's she took parts in a couple movements I can't remember for the life of me
>>
>>174888745
but /tg/ has antag datums, mini-antags and just a better overall codebase
>>
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/issues/14719
yeah hey
are you not supposed to explain that it's been fixed or somethign before you close an issue
>>
>>174888914
You can be an anarchist, pro gun and racist
>>
>>174888914
Yep anarchist that thinks that a agricultural world would be best.Best artists have always been deranged anon, but hey, least they make good shit
>>
>>174888981
It was an exact word-for-word verbatim duplicate of the previous issue posted
The web reporter just fucked up
>>
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>>174888846
>>
>>174887920
I can't say I really agree with her anarchism, but she's still /k/ and Spess as fuck.
>>
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>>174888908
>left to right
>>174888969
>>
>>174889135
>blaming coders for snowmap

Snowmap was celt, celt isn't a coder. Celt is something way worse
>>
>>174888908
Skilled medbay players like Reica can !
>>
>>174889135
can you dump all of these
they are fantastic and i've never been able to get all of them
>>
>>174889373
>reica
>skilled
PLease tell me you're joking.
Reica is and always has been a useless, vapid piece of shit who fucks off from his job to go fuck about in the bar. They can't be good at med, because they're never in med, even when called over the radio.
>>
>>174889373
Can reica keep her head, her backbone and her heart? We'll all find out the answer on the day it fell apart.
>>
Would you faggots be interested in some sort of statistical database that parses logs?
>>
>>174889525
the only thing reica is good for is blood transfusions until she hasn't any more
>>
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>>174889027
Honestly, i want the whole songs for solar sailor album she did. It's a bitch finding it in a complete state
>>
>>174889650
LOL, sweet reference my man
>>
>>174889785
Thanks, Lori!
>>
>>174889880
>Lori

I don't get that reference friendino, mind filling me in?
>>
>>174889701
http://www.lesliefish.com/frameset1.htm
Seems she's selling it here. Go under "BUY CDS" on the left, 16 freedom bucks
I might do that myself
>>
>>174889135
>Not knowing he's a Westaboo, and purposely did that in this case
>>
>>174889458
Try >her PDA!
>>
>>174890147
>give her special treatment because she's too much of a self absorbed asshat to listen and pay attention to the radio
Fuck that. I'd rather deal with the ride on my own than cater to her.
>>
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>>174889458
Is Reica the Trinity of medbay?

>Good at their job
>Deaf to being called over the radio
>cute, cute CUTE!
>unpure slut
>>
>>174890261
I was making a shit reference to another drama time excuse my failure
>>
>>174890360
I want to remove her legs!
>>
>>174890360
I wanna rape her, stab her eyes out with a screwdriver, and leave her in a maint room strapped to a chair with a bomb on her!
>>
>>174890482
>>174890574
I-I'm not r-reica b-but you can do it to m-me if you w-want...
>>
>>174890654
Stop stuttering like a faggot.
>>
>>174890654
I'd prefer an unwilling bitch, sorry
>>
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hard hitting editorials
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>>174890654
do you have a dick
this is important
>>
>>174890694
sorry
>>174890750
ok
>>174890790
yes
>>
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>>174882309
T H I C C
>>
>>174890912
>dick
Ailsa stop being a whore.
>>
>>174890924
THICKER
>>
>>174890912
Meet me in pod 2. Come alone.
>>
>>174890774
What does the edited pic even mean?
>>
>>174890924
why
>>
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/14734

complain about change please
>>
>no good ss13 lewdfics
>>
>>174891621
>implying rapefic anon's work isn't top tier
>>
>>174891689
>straightshit
>>
>>174886937
>murderboning for shit a job is allowed to do and isn't even worth a prison sentence
>this is somehow equivalent to doing the thing that lead to the murder
>>
>>174891689
they're all of old and forgotten waifus. we need some of our newer and better waifus like Reica "Anal Queen" Carter

>>174891720
this too
>>
Why did you degenerates come to my space station I just want to do paperwork and live out extremely poor workplace safety standards
>>
>>174891760
>reica
>new
>>
>>174891760
>old and forgotten waifus
The best kind of Waifu IMO. Waifushit needs to die, and more rapefics would just increase the amount of waifushit attentionwhoring.

>>174891720
But there's no gays to make rapefics of.
>>
>>174891857
I can name 5 lesbian waifu statics
>>
>>174892097
who
>>
>>174891857
There's always me
And (You)
>>
>>174892097
Go on.
>>
>>174892097
>lesbian
Degeneracy and disgusting
Plus, girls can't rape girls!
>>
>>174891857
rape the gay birds

and me
>>
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Who knew Librarian could be so fun?
>>
>>174892482
I felt really sorry for you. That mob of dinglebobs covering the station in blood really made me consider going for a jobban.
>>
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I found a cool space ship with drones that tried to murder me, but couldnt get it up and running.

Then I found THIS place.
>>
>>174892709
>he can't read the ~~~enviromental storytelling~~~
>>
>>174892851
It looked like they were turning cyber horrors and clowns into meat, but I was wondering if it had an official name
>>
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>literally retarded brazilian '''people''' like Renovama can post barely comprehensible garbage on the forums without being mocked relentlessly by everyone involved
ashamed of all of you 2bh
>>
>>174891857
>no gays
There's always Ailsa!
>>
How do we dismantle the coder cabal?

>hire a pajeet
>make pajeet code things
>pajeet reports back to us
>>
>>174891156
>actually like this change
>digitalis likes it too
>suddenly have a strong guilty feeling and have to reevaluate my thoughts
>>
>>174892130
>>174892141
Trinity and Zalika
Felicity and Ashe
Rina Visser
Avada (in her college days)
>>
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Does anyone want to come to the test server to show me how to set up the super matter engine?
>>
>>174883378
>Technically you'd have been nailed with a mommiban if anyone cared to ahelp it cause of the hazard you made.

Wow, a small source of radiation that doesn't even reach half past view range, out in space, easily avoidable and in plain sight.

Yeah, no. That doesn't count as a reckless hazard any more than if it had been built in space closer to engineering. Now if it had been in the station hallways, sure. Space is a great place for SME shard chambers due to how quickly it can be vented and spaced in an emergency.

>Use the derelict shard and ahelp for stuff or just play locally instead
Or you could just not be mad that you got yourself killed by being careless and barreling headfirst into a supermatter shard in space.

You had mesons and it was well lit. You have no one to blame but yourself.
>>
>>174893880
will you pay me in erp or not
>>
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>>174894082
But that's lewd.
>>
>>174894176
that sounds like a no
if you dont let me suck you off while you look at the shard and then puke in my mouth when I kiss you then there's no help for you FAG
>>
>>174894082
Yes. As a totally not admin I endorse this fair payment. Please tell us your ckey so we may await your arrival on the test serb.
>captcha: OFFE Moreno
>>
>>174893880
I could, if you don't mind that I'm a fair bit laggy.

Still looking for SME tutelage?
>>
>>174890924
Fat bird pls.
>>
>>174893880
>he doesn't know how to set up the best engine of all time
lmaoing @ ur life.
t. dicksmeller
>>
>>174894469
No problem. It's the test server, so I doubt it'll be that bad.

I already kind of know how to do it, I just need one more session start to finish to really nail it down.
>>
>>174894765
I can't log into the test server listed at the /vg/station wiki, so I'm using Nexus' test server at byond://nexisonline.net:1336

Dunno why, but the wiki's link just won't ever connect for me.
>>
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Why would someone draw this...
>>
>>174894939
Alright, I should be there in a moment.

Weird byond://ss13.moe:1337 doesn't work for you.
>>
Okay, my stream starts in ten minutes! Everyone be on your best behavior, because you're about to be live on Twitch!
>>
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>>174895497
Link or I'm calling bullshit
>>
>tfw another botanist joins after i've planted a nice garden with multi-harvest potatos/corn/carrots/etc
>tfw all he does is plant a few banana trees and then run off somewhere else, never to be seen again

Why? They always do this, and it's always default characters with black cut hair, or niggers who look like they wanted to plant dank ambrosia and nothing else.
>>
>>174895660
I'm not buying that. Nobody is gonna know who I am!
>>
>>174895290
>>
>>174895824
>>174895290
Every time I try and like Bay and heavy RP servers, someone posts this and reminds me why I'm never going to go play there.
>>
>>174895824
roundstart skrell when
>>
>>174871567
If there was a way for walls to move based on your perspective on them that would be near and solve that but it'd probably look weird as fuck in practice and be a nightmare to code. Might be ideal to go with Zelda esque walls that are top down but show all 4 sides at once.
>>
>>174896154
I'll gladly code it. And, by that I mean hold pjb at gunpoint.
>>
>>174895824
I need more lad...
>>
hey guys whats up
>>
>>174893976

shards are not a small source, they are very lethal after the rad changes. That is an insanely reckless hazard and you should have been banned due to have heavily it violates your laws.
>>
>>174897127
hi
>>
>>174897127
nothin
thinkin about husbandos
>>
>>174897459
>>174897419
how are you guys
>>
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>>174879051
>not making a disposals SME
>>
>>174897491
tired, how abot you
>>
>>174897491
bad
i have no husbando
>>
>>174893976

You are a mommi and you did something that got a human killed. That is bannable. You are lucky no one bothered ahelping it.
>>
>>174896314
Someone should be doing this at all time to keep him in check
>>
>>174897627
>>174897640
im bored and might play a videogame but I dont know if its worth it
>>
>>174897369
lol
>>
>>174898192

They are not wrong.
>>
So uh

Is lifewab a thing yet?
>>
>>174897835
just open space and afk in the bar
>>
>>174897532
>gate keeper

that name would be 100% valid to shit on right?
>>
>>174898607
yes, unless they are really good at roleplaying gate keeper
>>
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>tfw you're offering to buy out a coder to make skrell a roundstart meme
>>
>>174899089
>skrell
Frogs would be nothing but reeeeeeee bait and are still borked.
>>
>>174899242
>Frogs
SQUIDS
>>
>>174897640
but do you have benis?
>>
>>174899359
Well of course. Straight is gay as fuck and degeneracy, man.
>>
>>174899242
They're not borked...I did testing and their fine to me. if it's just the snowflake language that's not that big of a deal.
>>
>>174899318
Literaly frog people, check the wiki.
>>
>>174899569
>>174899318
I always thought they were just supposed to be copy-right safe Twi'lek, myself.
>>
>>174899512
>...
TG/reddit, go away, your shitty snowflake race aint welcome.
>>
>>174899676
Actually, by bay they're more copies of nautolans from star wars. Kit Fistos race muh lore wise. They have gills.
>>
>>174899676
They'd probably be closer to Nautolans anyway
>>
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We should have a race that can be dismembered and reassembled without any damage
I can't think of a good downside though
>>
>>174899884
>limbs pop off in response to something that's otherwise harmless
Might be better if we had crawling implemented first.
>>
>>174899884
how about its really easy to remove their limbs
>>
>>174899884
make skellytons have their limbs pop off and someone needs to pop them back in
>>
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>>174894939
Thanks for all the help mate, appreciate it.
>>
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>intelligent zombie race
>can rip arms off to use as weapons
>can rip intestines out and combine them with a dismembered arm to create an arm flail
CODE IT
>>
>>174900932
an arm flail that they can throw and summon back to them like bound item
>>
>>174900932
So, esentially they're stubbs the zombie?
>>
>>174899884
hivelord plasmid made by xenobiology could work like that
>>
>>174897676
>You are a mommi and you did something that got a human killed.

I don't think you know what mommi laws actually are.
>>
Helpful reminder in no way related to this round: Medbay does usually find your dead body eventually, so don't log out after you die.

Just leave the game open as a ghost and we can ping you via the cloner or defib.

Or you can always blink lights until we check the morgue.
>>
Anyways here's Carmen Miranda's Ghost
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0pNCouAl4lm
>>
>>174839971
NEW
>>
new thread

>>174903049
>>174903049
>>
>>174902757
Your accent is extremely cute
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