XCOM General - /xcg/

First for Xcom 2 expansion that fixes everything when?

>>174498848
E3

>>174498848
>>fixes

An Expansion will happen alright and it will do add new things but do you really expect it to fix ANYTHING?!

No, seriously, this is JAKE we are talking about.

>>174497870
>Naked Musclemen Berserkers
Fun fact: All Berserkers are female.

>>174499052
that's very progressive

>>174498654
Air game is fun.

>>174499083
Thats very fucking terrifying. If that implies all Mutons are male then I never want to be a Muton and have to mate with that.

>>174499142
implaca flacka plying you wouldn't be a lonely muton

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>>174499142
>Not wanting to mate with a split-lipped wall of muscle
What are you a faggot?

pistols are useful

>>174499142
mutons and berserkers in x2 are hybrids mixed with human DNA

>>174499329
only because you get to take them for free and can't put anything else in that slot

>>174499337
Mutons have human genetics mixed in, Berserkers is just years of straight genetic tampering to make them jacked monsters of adrenaline and anger. If only that was actually reflected in gameplay, instead they're a joke

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>Need Andromedon Corpses to upgrade my SPARKs
>Have only encountered 2 Andromedon's total

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>>174499374

Nah. They are good on their own right.

airgame is better than timers

>>174498654
You know I don't miss archangel at all, you know why? I'm playing a new Long War campaign right now. Speaking of which I did some ini edits to cheat make the game more fun. I put the arcthrower in the pistol slot. I want to make one more item available to the pistol slot but I'm not sure what. Can't be nades, medkit, laser/scope, target module, that radar thing or battlescanners. I think only the arcthrower is truly ellible since it doesn't stuff things up. Any ideas???

The other ini edit cheat is making certain small items 0 weight, like the laser pointer, but not sure what else.

Ask me anything!

>>174501205
you didn't explain why you don't miss archangel

>>174501331
Because I'm playing Long War right now. How can I miss something I'm already using.
Green fog is brutal so far, same with ITT. Make the game way more random and scary and you can't do the beagle overwatch shuffle.

>>174500541
I would kill for that pistol. Being able to dress casual as a covert operative or just bradford...

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I really don't miss reloads ending your turn.

>>174501730
Give every soldier locknload and redo the perk trees? It's just a couple of text edits.

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Remove snek

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>>174503134

>>174503458
That white guy is me in the hoodie hangin out with jamal's sheilas. He doesn't know he's getin cucked.

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>>174503867
pretty sure xcom is about to mega cuck the shit out of everyone here

Whats the best way to tackle that first landed large in Long War? I can't remember how I used to do it.

Man the motion tracker really speeds things up. But it's only really useful if you use a battlescanner. It would be good if there was an activation circle on the radar.

>>174504623
that's actually a good idea

Ok so looks like that first large landed is impossible since I last played Long War. TWO Cyberdiscs with drones? Seekers everywhere. I only remember chrysalid packs, thinmen, sectoids and the 6 outsiders.

12 hours til beagle

>>174487621
For classic you need to understand that low cover is as good as staying out in the open. For impossible you need to understand that high cover is as good as staying out in the open.

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are sneks ADVENT citizens?

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>>174514257
They can become citizens if they marry a human who's one.

>>174514257
>>174514890
both ayy fucking shits and filthy advent sympathisers are legitimate targets for tactical- and strategic-level immolation via grenadier incendiary bombs.

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>>174514998
I pity you edgy XCOM posters, you can't let go of the past.
>xenos OUT x-DD vigilo gonfido :-DDD praise the commander
>bawww ;_; how could they attempt to dismantle our terrorist organisation ;___;
I hope you enjoy bleeding out in the mud while I sit in my comfy high-tech home, shitposting on the web while my viper wife is ordering some delicious burgers.

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>>174515342
>mfw I flame you along with your horrid xenos abominations on every mission I can

>>174516563
anyone else also drop their explosives and flamers after the mission just to do as much damage to ADVENT?

>>174517181
>standing in the evac zone with action points left
>why not use up all remaining grenades and heavy weapons?
>no reason not to

advent murder gives me a boner

>>174503134
>having a sharpshooter with faceoff on top of a shack in that DLC Vahlen snake king mission where you get ambushed by a dozen+ 2 hp baby snakes and 2 regular ones on the same turn
>never before has so many sneks been removed in a single action
I had to reload that mission and try letting Bradford use reaper on them as well but damn, that was one good faceoff

can someone post an endgame LW1 base layout? Want an idea of how big the power block ends up

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send help

When you think about, the end of x2 is equivalent to:
>Al qaeda is able to blow up cities and military bases all across america
>they then broadcast a video showing the American government is planning to kill everyone
>everyone in America joins up with Al qaeda to overthrow the government

I mean really, who is the advent sympathizer really going to side with? Us? The video could be fake for all they know. And advents been pretty great for the last 20 years

>>174525302
I usually end up with a vertical row of fission - thermo - fission - fission (obviously need to be lucky with steam on the last column on the left/right, but hey, you might get even luckier and actually have 2 adjacent steams and work with that), with the last two hopefully being upgraded into elerium generators as soon as possible. Don't be afraid to build disposable generators in reserved spots with intention to delete them later, it's only $120.

>>174527293
Just that? 3 big generators and one small, not even with a square bonus?

>>174527605
I might be mistaken because it's been at least 6 months since I last played long war but if you complete that column it should provide well over 100 power (even more if you upgrade the last fission into elerium which I never even had to do unless my memory is fucked), that's enough to get well past midgame. I seem to always roll the worst placements with my steam vaults and I consider it pretty much default that I have a random thermal somewhere in my workshop square and simply never build a second workshop so not only are my bases kinda fucked but my sense of how much power should optimally be available is fucked as well. Don't really know why I thought I should be giving advice.

so for the retaliation missions: do you get a bonus for rescuing more than the minimum of civilians?

>>174531192
Yes. I believe increased region funding.

>>174525302
nobody has a screenshot saved?

If I'm randoming a class in LW1, there's bonus chance for the soldier to become the class I have least of. What happens if I have multiple rare classes with equal numbers?

>>174538052
Then it's an even chance, because no one would get a bonus.

>>174538234
That's unfortunate. Does it also disable the bonus if the rarest class is the one you're randoming from? Ex. you're randoming from rocketeer/gunner hoping to get a medic, you have 1 rocketeer, 2 medics, 3 of everything else

>>174538872
It shouldn't. Medic should be most likely in that case.

>>174526628
There had been decades of resistance, and if many people are like tygan then they don't trust ADVENT or the aliens; they're drawn to the sense of stability and normalcy.

Nobody trusts the government now, even less with ayys.

>>174537428
I could take one after I get off work.

I have a campaign where I'm just missing the gollop chamber

>>174540043
please do

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>Missed my chance to pick up EU+EW for cheap last month
Fuck.

>>174540670
Really dude? It's up for like 10 bucks constantly.

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plasma may burn the tree, but its spirit is still with us

>>174540767
>constantly
Good, because I'm kind of strapped for cash and would prefer to not drop $50

>>174540919
Just check steam during any holiday or sale. It was 10 bucks for christmas. It was probably 10 bucks during Easter as well.

>>174541080
I checked during Easter and no such luck.

>>174541232
That is bad luck then.

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>Sectopods on Supply Raids
STOP CHARGING THROUGH YOUR OWN CRATES YOU LOUD BUMBLING FUCKS

>>174541806
>sectopod obliterates city block while on patrol
>bzzzt ruuhr clank clank clank
>MY CAR!

>>174541948
do you think advent will cover the damages

>>174542018
No, the sectopod will kill the civilian and blame it on xcom.

>>174541806
>LOUD BUMBLING FUCKS
I'm quite happy they're as loud as they can possibly be, I can always know from the start of the mission where it is.

sectopods need a sticker with please be patient on it

>>174542328
>Not programmed to recognize terrain. Please be patient.

>>174542730
Sectopods actually cannot manage terrain. They can't climb even short hills.

>>174543056
Who needs to climb a hill when you can be taller than any hills in the game

>>174543750
Tell that to the Sectopod I used full override on. He was stuck in the water for the whole mission.

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>When your Sharpshooter with Serial and a Superior Auto Loader has 100% shots on all 9 enemies in sight regardless of cover

>>174543930
>minrolls on the first shot

>>174544025
>Precision Shot is giving me 100% crit on the ones hes flanking
I'll be fine m8.

>>174503867
BLEACHED

>>174544968
>cleanse my fucking gene pool with your hot white seed

3 hours til beagle

>>174542180
Never trust robots.

http://i.imgur.com/GTk0h37.gif

>>174544109
Precision Shot procs Serial?

>>174546289
yes
serial triggers as long as the kill is made with the main weapon
precision shot uses the main weapon

now you're making me want to make a sharpshooter with rapid fire serial

>>174546659
Sounds useful if I ever get serial on a ranger again.

JC Denton got 253 kills that campaign.

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>>174547678
Send them back to the people. In body bags.

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In a recent Campaign, I did the Alien Hunters DLC with Powered Armor, Plasma Weapons, a Paladin ranked Spark Unit, and a team of all Colonels of each specialization. These were the Highlights.

>When the Ambush started, I had my Sniper use the grappling hook of their Wraith Suit to get high ground and used that to Faceoff a majority of the Vipers within the first turn, followed by playing cleanup with the rest of the squad and after that, the Vipers were dead for that part.

>Before moving up to trigger the reveal of the Viper King, I made a firing line with my units before sending my Spark Unit (Who has Hunter's Instinct) to trigger the reveal.

>When we encountered Viper, I used the Shredder Gun equipped to my Spark Unit to eradicate their armor

>When I moved my Gunner up to freeze bomb him, the Viper shot an Ice blast at my Ranger and Specialist, freezing them both but I retaliated with the said Freeze Bomb.

>With the Viper frozen, I had my Sniper, who was already on the High ground. Deadeye the Snek with a Talon Round, greatly weakening his health.

>Next up was Bradford, who I moved up to shoot, the freeze bomb effect fading and releasing the viper king, Bradford shot and did the basic damage from his assault rifle but the king had like seven health left.

>The Viper summoned a gate behind my Spark, Grenadier, and Central.Bradford's shot ended my turn, Thats when the Viper made a mistake.

>He dashed forward to the Portal, towards my Spark, Bradford, and the Grenadier.

>Cue Bladestorm.jpg

>Bradford killed him with that Bladestorm and we won, flawlessly.

>>174551130
That's actually his line when you activate serial.

"Except send you back to the people, in a body bag."

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>MFW when my PSI-Op Is able to dominate a Gatekeeper with a Mid-Level Psi-Amp and in turn, use the Gatekeeper to kill all the fuckers surrounding it.

>>174551369
Man, the lines are what makes the JC Denton voicepack a 10/10 for me

Just how they're somewhat related to the action, like "You weren't kidding about leaving New York" for a move is hilarious. I bet it was fun to make.

>>174551367
>waiting for T3 to do the nest

Scrub

>>174551367
Real xcom has an airforce and would poo all over that special bus xcom2 calls a base.

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>>174551369
Fucking beautiful

beagle beagle beagle

>>174554742
Its another hour because of Daylight Savings Time
Fucking upside down land.

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CLOSE

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>>174557982
RANGE

>>174554742
bagels where
haven't been here for a year or two

>>174557982
RANGA

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>>174558304
/beagsandjam

>>174560589
>offline
welp, back to thermodynamics homework

I took a dump and it was the size of two stacked coke cans.

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>>174561072

>>174556293
ffs is this confirmed?

>>174561358
he's streaming in a few mins calm down

I AM
LOSING
CONTROL
OF
THE
SITUATION

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meat ball

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>>174562146
poor little guy, he's all tuckered out

Stream is on.

>>174562230
That thing is so shit compared to the cyberdisk. Higher res textures just means nothing when the designs are shit.

>>174562382
EW recreated in XC2 when

>>174526628

>American Government announces life-changing healthcare act that can cure any illness.
>Your dad goes missing the day he finally goes to one and the government acts as though he never existed to begin with
>Not only does Al qaeda reveal that the government turned your dad into genetic slurry but they also used said slurry to try and make themselves immortal
>Meanwhile nobody actually personally knows a member of the US military

>>174562541
I was going to point out the errors with his anology, but I didn't have the energy too. So good job, I think this covers it.

>>174562484
It would take a dedicated and talented mod team to do that. Long War team sold out and are now just pawns.

>>174562691
>Long War team sold out
By doing what they did before? You do know they want to make another game right? You've basically claimed that the people who aren't going to take the time to make something like this have sold out because they are gonna use their time to create their own game.
Come to think of it LW 2 is probably just some elaborate Beta for their game.

>>174562641

>Half the US Military are also varying degrees of strange sexy ladies
>Some of those sexy ladies have the nuclear launch codes embedded in their heads

>>174562894
LW2 is funded by 2K..........

>>174562894
>Come to think of it LW 2 is probably just some elaborate Beta for their game.
Their game isn't 3D and doesn't run on the same engine at all. You clearly know nothing.

>>174562962
Ok I'm not sure where this is going now
>The other half speak Arabic for no apparent fucking reason and never take off their helmets.

>>174563069
Yeah but I'm saying that if they weren't paid, they would have never made this mod. Because they want to invest time in their own game.

>>174563167
As in testing gameplay mechanics. Think of all the feedback and different ideas you can kick around while drawing up your own XCOM like. Feedback from the exact playerbase you want to appeal too.

>beagle flaming joinrbs

>>174562295
I for one am looking forward to removing ayys and culling the population

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Should I sell these on ebay?

>>174563814
why when I could just buy a stainless steel one from 2K?
http://store.2k.com/store/Tk22k/en_US/pd/productID.332530100

>>174563595
where

>>174564050
On the stream right now

>>174564050
Is that link not working?

>>174563954
>http://store.2k.com/store/Tk22k/en_US/pd/productID.332530100

out of stock kek

>>174564128
>>174564113
what did he say

>>174564279
actually I'll just watch the recording when he's done streaming instead of joining halfway through the video

>>174564279
he's been going through his video on stream for the past 12 minutes

>>174564214
Says in stock for me, though I haven't tried to buy one since I have one already

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Viper wife mod when?

>>174563954
>Look at fuigurines
>It's all POP shit

Vomit_chan.jpg

>6:00 pm
>Just made it to the game
>Haha just kidding subscriber/donation time
Ok Beagle, don't start anytime soon

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>new campaign in old game
Fuck yes!

Also;
>beags has face
Since when

>>174565680
Since last week

>>174565680
about 2 weeks now

What is the 4 most important classes in Long War 1.0?

I'd say Assault, Gunner, Rocketeer, Sniper

>>174565847
>No Infantry
Are you fucking drunk

>>174565847
People's attempts to rank class importance usually ends in tears. Neglecting any of them is a mistake.

>>174565962
Infantry need everyone else to shine

>>174565847
define important
for example if I'm trying to win the game with only 4 of the non-mec classes, I'd take scout over sniper, and probably engineer over rocketeer [crucial to avoid early terror missions ending in tears]

>>174566056
And snipers don't?

>>174566239
They actually need less than infantry. I'm not saying snipers are more important than infantry.

>>174565764
>>174565745
He doesn't look like a goblin right now desu. Maybe he realized it's just his camera making him look like shit and bought a good one

>>174565847
It's stupid to directly compare them. But hidden potential exploited 19 mobility high aim scout with hit and run is my favorite. Along with ITZ airborne sniper. Because fuck airborne enemies

>>174565962
Infantry aren't important, as in if you go without you won't regret it, not saying they aren't useful for damage output but you need those 4 to stop casualties and to destroy certain ayys.
>>174566153
I mean you should have those as your highest ranking soldiers. Infantry are useful even as a SPEC, Engineers are useful early as soon as you have sapper.
Medics can be a tough one since they are useful but damage output is more useful until psi becomes a thing.

So in conclusion those 4 are most important to be your highest ranking soldiers/most kills.

>>174566239
I can see a justification for snipers based almost entirely on their ability to equip the gauss long rifle. Another thing with infantry is that scouts can be built to be a very similar soldier with some more utility - earlygame marksman rifle is comparable firepower to two AR shots, midgame low profile is similar to BR+hunker, then you get hit and run..

>>174566615
I feel like infantry scale pretty hard with rank.

>>174566665
This.

Those HitnRun frontline scouts with a HitnRun Assault is the best front, especially with a FTH Rocketeer and Sapper engineer, and steadied Sniper.

A HEAT engineer could alright since drones and seekers can situationally be naded especially in tight building scenarios.

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http://www.4players.de/4players.php/tvplayer/4PlayersTV/Alle/37599/125635/Phoenix_Point/Fig-Trailer.html

A leaked trailer for phoenix point.

fuckkk i forgot beagle was on tonight. is japan the first mission or did i miss stuff?

>>174567256
1st

I wish I could make Medics Officer and Psi.

>>174567214
>leaked trailer
Looks more like a straight up sales pitch
>Air game return
Fantastic, I didn't think there would be one.
>Those animations
Hope they see some significant improvement.

>tune in thinking "Well, Beagle at least is streaming Battlegrounds these days"
>Full. On. TNX. going on in the stream.

W-W-WHAT IS THIS SORCERY?!?!?!!!

>>174567214

That looks fucking amazing, rest in pieces Jake.

>>174567746

where were you last week?

>>174567720
Yeah I figure it'd be for a crowdfunding campaign of sorts. Agree on the animations, they're a bit stiff. Still hype though.

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>>AP gets totally absorbed by DR

This is true Long War.

>>174567214
The ayys look like shit. I want a 1950's themed xcom with fedora's and classic looking ayys. Why do they have human faces? What is the obsession with putting human features on ayys?

>>174568068
Why is he he even bothering nading drones? steady the engineer when drones appear. Way more damage output that way.

>>174568403

Beagle has a thing for throwing grenades at targets that can absorb the damage.

>Take xenological remedies
>try to blow up all the corpses
What did he mean by this?

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>>MELD out of reach.

Classic.

>>174569163
>no vahlen on the corner
shit webm

Anyone use that arc rifle in Long War?

Seems like it's better to just bring a disable shot sniper with marksman rifle for captures.

>>174569539
I haven't even seen a screenshot of someone using one.

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>>174569539
I did a lot but I edited that so engineers can carry it in pistol slot (with BAD movement penalty) and can operate from range because that's a fucking taser, not shock device. When I have one ayy left I always try to capture for dosh/missions

>>174569657
Repair is a great perk to have.

>>174569943
>rifle
Hold on. Ignore me. I was talking about thrower. Arc rifle is utter shit.

>>174570047
I almost believed someone used the arc rifle for a second.

>>174570047
>Arc rifle is utter shit.

If it was free and available from the beginning I still wouldn't use it. My early two snipers get disabling shot for cyber discs anyways. The only thing I can see the arc rifle being useful is the low damage output for captures considering using arc thrower in a pistol slot.

"The only thing to do when you're getting fucked is to fuck the other guy harder. Just gotta pray you have more piston action than he does."

Beagleluck strikes again

THE BEAGLELUCK STRIKES AGAIN!

>>174571334
>>174571339
>If we don't know what we are doing, the enemy sure as hell won't

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Glad to see Beagleluck is as strong as ever.

>>174571418
isn't that a line straight out of some american army manual

>>174571480
I don't know if that manual is a meme or the real deal, but yes I suppose.

i'm not watching the stream, what happened this time?

>>174571583
clips.
twitch
.tv/
NimbleDifficultSwallowLitty
Spam filter is insufferable.

>>174571583
Nothing. He's slow as usual.

>>174571583
Rooster min rolls on a flank next to 3 Sectoids that Beagle can't kill that turn and could easily flank and kill Rooster instantly.
2 of the Sectoids predictably freak the fuck out from getting dashed flanked from another Soldier but the 1 other Sectoid that is getting Mind Merged and could easily get into a safe position to kill Rooster decides to double move away instead into an easily flankable position.

>>174571480
It's an apocryphal statement made by any number of various military personages.

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>>174571583

The ayys had some clear and obvious ways to flank/kill a soldier and do some damage but they completely missed their turn doing almost nothing of relevance other that putting themselves in easy to flank positions.

THE BEAGLELUCK NEVER ENDS

>>174569943
>bad movement penalty
A -2 ?

>Can operate from range.
You took out the range penalty?

>>174572370
11 to 9 is really fucking bad. Especially with a squad of 13

>>174572370
>You took out the range penalty?
IIRC you need to be on the next square to use it. Fuck that, this is a taser.

>>174572370
>A -2 ?

When you put it in the pistol slot you get -4 movement penalty in total, it's fucking brutal.

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>>174572354

Boy that was a Beagleluck moment as well. At least the Operatives are back at the base.

>>174569943
Do you have a walkthrough on youtube?

>>174572765
-4 seems too extreme.

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>>174573090
No. And last time I played was 2 years ago. I'm pretty rusty and don't even remember most of the game.

Have your worst nightmare. Newfoundland + mommy chrysalid

>>174573104
with items in the item slots -5 with 3 items.

I put the arc thrower in pistol slot with a 0 move penalty. Some decisions in Long War are just to make things masochistic so people like Beagle suffer when streaming for entertainment purposes.

>>174573802
>in pistol slot with a 0 move penalty
pistols are already useless. Not taking the penalty makes it a nobrainer. Unless pistol has movement bonus that I don't remember.

>>174574363

Not an argument.

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>>174575074
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>>174574363
>pistols are already useless
NOW YOU'VE DONE IT

>>174574363
>pistols are already useless

An engineer with an arc thrower in a normal equipment slot and a pistol, are the perfect capture machine. In that case the base pistol remains useful for an incredibly long time.

>>174563595
Joinrbs is the best boy of the xcom community desu.

>>174575850
He seems like a know it all

>>174575850

He likes LW2 so he is instantly shit.

>>174576157
This. And claims to know shit about Long War.

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What? How? Why? Its a fucking orange crystal.

>>174576374
Get out you MELDaphobe

>>174576451
Beagle is streaming, that can't possibly be him.

>>174576374
>not having intimate full contact sex with crystals
Laugh at this unenlightened pleb. Probably doesn't even know about the real world order.

>>174576157
hes was a part of the lw2 dev team

>>174576562
That makes things infinitely worse. Devs don't know shit about playing Long War, they might think they know the numbers, but they don't know shit.

>>174576760
All of his criticisms were valid.

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>>174576562

That makes him the enemy.

does beagle always play this slow? he literally takes 10x the amount of time i do

>>174577958
yes

>>174577958
Yes.

>>174577958
This is Beagle Time, lord of waffling

>>174577958
beagle plays xcom the way old people fuck

>>174578072
kinkily?

>>174578072

the punchline to that joke is slow and sloppy. slow definitely applies but the man is very tight on his play.

>>174577958
These rookies man, no idea. This is nothing. He has a motion tracker now which makes things much faster.

>>174577958
They invented timers to stop beagle.

>>174578197
always thought it meant a lot of stop-start

>>174578263
Their loss considering he is advertising gold.

/xcg/ on blast

>>174578560
what did he mean by this?

>>174579273
He meant:
>watch the stream to understand this post

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>mods can spam
>it's ahegao
wew...

lightning reflexes is a trap
you should never rely on it

How do I deal with 6 outsiders and no flashbangs? I think I might possibly be able to open with an ap nade. I have two hitnrun assault and an infantry so if I'm lucky thats 5 dead. But Large UFOs are awkward as hell.

>>174580191
It's a last resort when you know you will be fired at if you leave that ayy alive.

>>174580223
>How do I deal with 6 outsiders and no flashbangs?
lube up your butthole

>>174580223
>How do I deal with 6 outsiders and no flashbangs?
You don't.

>>174580223
break los

>>174580223
Don't try to get them all. Take them one by one. Fuckers are regenerating. Every turn that they regenerate is a wasted damage that could've been focused on one.
Also you should blow their cover and exploit the shit out of that hit and run.

>>174580582
>Fuckers are regenerating

Thanks I almost forgot that.

>>174579273
clips.
twitch
.tv/
TemperedGlamorousPonyBuddhaBar

>>174580917
>I hate twitch tv
>everything bothers me
>I'm so angry at my life
A-at least I still have my hair

>>174580223
Outsiders are all or nothing. If you don't have consumables, call it a day and go home.

>>174581140
I think I can trick them into flanking themselves by revealing the nader to them on one side while packing the squad on the otherside. I'm going to try it. I took my A squad so I could get the loot and get more lasers and 5 carapace nice and early.

Do outsiders run away if outnumbered and lost all their pod?

>>174581740
>I think I can trick them into flanking themselves by revealing the nader to them on one side while packing the squad on the otherside.
Take a screenshot before you try this manuveur and I/We'll let you know where the outsiders will go. I can't quite tell from your text, but if it is what I think it is, you are about to open up your engagement really poorly.

>Do outsiders run away if outnumbered and lost all their pod?
I don't think so

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I still can't believe fanart is back.

>im going to upload xcum streams to youtube
>week 2, still not a single upload
so he didn't configure twitch to auto upload
which means he's doing it manually
which means he won't upload the whole thing because he'll get bored halfway in as usual
good old bagel

>>174583057
this format is much funnier than the old version of pretending that everything was good

Stream is Over.

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>>174584169

Yeah. Hopefully stuff will get better over time.

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>>174571247
Words of wisdom
https://clipstwitchtv/
EmpathicBoldDunlinDogFace

>spend hours studying
>miss the stream on top of it

A-at least I'll have a job when I graduate!

>>174585641
60 years from now when you're on your deathbed, are you going to more fondly remember a twitch stream about some obscure turn-based computer game played by a balding sectoid man, or a lifetime of gainful employment in the real world?

the correct answer is the stream.

>>174569539
I've considered using it since losing an engineer's rifle isn't too costly anyway. But by the time I unlock it I've already gotten a good amount of captures and usually have more important gear waiting for resources, so I never set aside the cash for it.

>>174573104
Sounds just right if it's for the arc thrower only, but he said total with two items. So he's basically getting a free item when he uses arc thrower. Brutal lol.

>>174575427
The guy with the arc thrower is exactly the one guy in the team who is guaranteed NOT going to be shooting his pistol to wound the ayy. Because he has to use his turn to attempt the capture.

>>174581740
>I think I can trick them into flanking themselves by revealing the nader to them on one side while packing the squad on the otherside.
Never do this if it's your activation move. Outsiders [maybe all pods? not sure, but outsiders definitely do this] move as if they know where everyone is on their activation move. So if you try some ebin 8-point infiltration against even a single outsider, chances are it will find exactly the one soldier that's most isolated and run to a position that flanks him, in the process also getting far enough away from everyone else that you need to double move to be in firing range, removing any hope of first round kill.

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>>174525302
>>174540043

>>174580223
Cry.

>>174567214
>crab with tits

I can deal with this

>>174552153
Is that a pikachu on the left?

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Turns out it was only 4 outsiders... I still underestimate outsiders though...

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The wounds... Next time I'm doing a roof breach. Would have been fine if a 74% crit didn't fail.

On a side note, how come all my soldiers are foreigners instead of mainly western?

>>174590721
homogay liberal propaganda

>>174590721
jake's a lefty

Damn that felt good getting rid of all those random countries in that ini. What a stupid thing pretty sure it glitches out the voice selection too.

>>174592132

No. The .ini needs MOAR countires.

>>174592315
and regions of countries

>>174592764
No.

Just continents.

>>174592826

No. It needs State and Counties flags as well.

>>174592826
>not setting every nationality to Earth

>>174593281
>>174593470

Nah just XCOM flag.

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>>174593543

There is only XCOM

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Does the Council has a flag or a symbol?

>>174593905
I would do that but I think it stuff up the voices?

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>>174594057
no, but in X2 it is using the resistance symbol

>>174567214
I'm really looking forward to messing with the factions
I always wanted some better interaction with EXALT than hurr durr we fight u XCOM noaw

do you slay an ayy away a day with an AK?

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I wanted to finish the "Wraith update" before the weekend started but i didn't quite manage, so here's a preview of the new helmets that are going to come when i update the mod with the Wraith armor.

There's a "Ballistic" mask which i decided to just name "Wraith" mask instead of "protective", the ballistic mask comes in 3 variants, just the mask, the mask with a fancy eye add-on, and the mask with a fancy eye add-on that glows. There's a hood that is available on all 3 slots for maximum customization potential(i also plan to add the hood to at least one wraith torso for even more customization, might also add it to a warden suit piece somewhere), a knightly helmet and the cyclopeanish looking visor/goggles that i had posted before. The knight helmet also has a variant with glowing eyes, and the visor has one with no glowing eye.

>>174602746
Looks awesome man. When I pick up XCOM2 again I'd be into that 100%. Looks way more resistance than anything else I seen so far which is exactly what I want. Not the punk shit or the halo stuff but this stuff you're makin.

>>174567214
>media can't be played

FUCK

>>174602746
SHiiieeeett

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Perfect men don't exi-

>>174603980
looking at his smile makes me feel self concious about how large and prominent my front teeth are

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>>174602746
Those look amazing
I think this is easily is the best cosmetic mod on the workshop

>>174602746
very nice work

How does psionic energy work?

>>174605638
like electricity

>>174605638
space magic

>>174605638
Do you mean gameplay mechanics wise or lorewise?

>>174605638
pretty well, thanks

>>174605638
my headcanon is that psi can transfer information about energy but not energy itself. Which means that you can seemingly create it, but you're actually using the energy that already is there.
So mind control is just psi-op making the brain of the victim work the way he wants it to work and more offensive abilities (rift/null lance) are just destroying molecular structures.
but it stops working when you add in psi teleport ability that avatars and codexes have, so it's sci-fi magic

>>174602746
That's pretty fucking fantastic man.

The second variant from the top-left reminds me of Corvo's mask - I approve wholeheartedly.

Haven't played Long War for XCOM 2.

I don't like mods that change existing content such as buffing or nerfing perks and items and enemies, or changing their functionality.
I only like mods that add further content. More enemies, more missions, more items etc. etc.

What does Long War mod do?

What class should Sam Hyde be?

>>174607967
think of it as a different game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7QeArG2xXI&list=PLesIE_v8rF22m9iNgvHVFCOQh3oHLZJ67

>>174576024
I'd argue for him as the most skilled and consistent of the xcom streamers. Beags is good, but he'd never be good enough to do the crazy aggressive play that joinrbs does which is imo more fun to both play and watch.
>>174576157
>summer is coming

>>174607967
LW2 is extremely ambitious with what it tries to do and is not balanced well atm.
LW2 changes pretty much everything about perks but adds a lot of new ones as well as new classes.
Balances the enemies a bit and adds new variants
Pretty much changes everything in the strategy layer
Compared to vanilla X2 its pretty much a different game but I feel like it gets a bit too much hate for not being the same jump as EW to LW1
imo if you like X2 then go and check it out. it does balance stuff to answer your question but it adds more than enough to compensate for that

>>174608160
GUNNER

>>174607967
It's dog shit in it's base state if you download it alone.
>garbage hit chances
>clumped pods
>very little supplies and engineers/scientists
>longer research
>infiltration mechanic
>enemy AI
>focus on timed missions
>doesn't seem to prioritize missions for things you need like the base game

It honestly drops you right into the thick of things with barely a paddle. The first mission I had to fight 4 pods of roughly 4 guys each with only 4 rookies. It wasn't fun and with the rebalance to hit rolls, it was damn near unplayable even on normal. In it's base state, it is an absolute piece of shit. Luckily there are some folks who have made mod adjustments to it that greatly alleviate the problems. There's a few of them and I'd recommend looking into them if you want to try out LW2.

As >>174608775 says, it's very ambitious and I can see the potential in it, unfortunately it's very poorly implemented.

>>174610292
>garbage hit chances
>complaining about rng in xcom

>clumped pods
bad rng, git gud

>very little supplies
agreed, early economy is hell

>and scientists/engineers
never had this problem

>longer research
because it's a longer campaign ffs

>enemy AI
it's still very predictable, but it's actually somewhat smart compared to vanilla

>focus on timed mission
agreed 100%

>doesn't seem to prioritize missions for things you need like base game
you mean early supplies? then yes

>it drops you right into the thick of things
because it's long war. the fucks at pavonis really like their difficulty through obscurity. and that's why I probably won't buy Terra Invicta or whatever they're planning to do next until I see gameplay from it.

>>174608160
Psionic with pistol perks.

>>174613293
When you're point blank flanking with only an 80% chance to hit that's fucking bull shit. And shots that normally would be in the 60-80% range are now 12%... yeah fuck that.

I'm not bad at XCOM, I know the difference between "oh I went in and triggered a pod on accident" to "why are there 4 pods 5 feet away from each other on my second turn?" I never felt cheated by triggering a pod in the base game because I knew it was my fault for either pushing ahead too much or taking too long to kill a tougher pod... this is different though. Literally 1 to 2 moves in and I'm running into 2-4 pods at a time. That's not fun and it makes me feel cheated

I've had 0 engineers/scientist missions come up in the 3 games I've created and I would buy them from the market except I don't have any fucking supplies because I don't get those missions either.

I understand it's a longer campaign, but when I'm not getting any scientists, the longer research is detrimental.

As i said though, there are several mods that fix some of these problems and after installing them I'm having a much better time.

>>174590721
Where is your starting base/region?

>>174614976
>I've had 0 engineers/scientist missions come up in the 3 games I've created
They are actually hard coded to give you engi/scientist missions in the first month. Put everyone on Intel and make sure to Intel scan with Avenger.

>>174615610
I'll try this, thanks

I don't think that's the case though. In my current game I'm on month 2 and still have 0 scientists and only 1 engineer because I had to buy him from the market.

>>174616204
It should be the case at least for 1.2. But you can miss the mission if you don't have enough intel, just like every other mission.

>>174614976
>When you're point blank flanking with only an 80% chance to hit that's fucking bull shit.
because rookies can't hit shit. and 80% seems about right: 65(base aim)+20(range bonus) = 85
also: rifles aren't for close combat

>And shots that normally would be in the 60-80% range are now 12%... yeah fuck that.
because the AI will not charge you brainlessly. they will instead get to high cover and low cover is also slightly better than vanilla

>I'm not bad at XCOM, I know the difference between "oh I went in and triggered a pod on accident" to "why are there 4 pods 5 feet away from each other on my second turn?" I never felt cheated by triggering a pod in the base game because I knew it was my fault for either pushing ahead too much or taking too long to kill a tougher pod... this is different though. Literally 1 to 2 moves in and I'm running into 2-4 pods at a time. That's not fun and it makes me feel cheated
That's where difficulty through obscurity hits. you're not supposed to fight every enemy every mission. you have to exploit concealment with a smaller squad to both reduce the number of enemies as well as improving your stealth capability. this is currently the biggest complaint about LW2 - the fact that you can stealth most missions and they're more strategically more viable than trying to fight them. theyre working on a fix so hopefully it will be better in 1.3
>As i said though, there are several mods that fix some of these problems and after installing them I'm having a much better time.
good for you then. I was also messing around with inis to make 2 squaddie 4 rookie against ex. light missions viable

>>174616632
>because rookies can't hit shit.
They can in LW1. Pretty sure point blank gives you 100% shots with assault rifles. It's a valid complain, completely unrelated to "gitting gud." Of course, this doesn't even factor in grazing. There is always a fine line between randomness in fights and mechanics that guarantee results so you can plan around them. Too much guaranteed damage and you get vanilla xcom. Too much randomness and you get LW2 imo.

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my rookie mission attempt was saved by the Gatekeeper going for card game style "Value"

I like graphics of XCOM 2, but I liked the art style of first one more

>>174616991
I can confirm, LW1 rifles did get very close to 100% on point blank, easily reaching it with ranked soldiers or talented rookies.

>>174616632
>also: rifles aren't for close combat
But this part is more important. In LW1 you could equip shotguns on half the classes, whereas that's not really true in LW2. I think there's a significant downgrade in flexibility in general. You know, LW1 you're choosing between SMG, carbine, rifle, battle rifle, shotgun, all of those are available to engineers, medics, infantry and assault. Not all are viable, you'll never put an SMG on an infantry, but 2-3 are valid choices for most random soldiers.

And that's just for primary weapon, you're usually making meaningful choices for items as well. When I'm gearing my LW1 infantry I'll consider expanded mags, scope, targeting sensor, medkit [when dealing with mints], alloy plate, sometimes even drum mag or a grenade early game. And that list was different for the different classes. LW2 in contrast had like four viable items for most soldiers, flashbang, armor, he grenade, flashbang. Though balancing may have improved that and will hopefully improve it further.

>>174617735
im pretty sure in LW2 you can give shotguns for everyone but snipers and gunners (and maybe shinobi). the issue is more with shotguns getting nerfed to the ground in LW2. I remember equipping everybody with shotguns on LWPP because there was very little reason not to.

>downgrade in flexibility
this is more of an issue with X2 deciding to move stuff like this to weapon mods
if pavonis overhauled the weapon mods so they're a bit more complex than flat stat bonuses that would make it better

as for smgs/carbines/etc. I can understand them trying to streamline the weapon choices but I agree that LW2 is missing some choices when it comes to primary weapons. there's no middle ground between smgs that do no damage and rifles that fuck your mobility and shotguns that fuck your mobility and are useless unless you're standing next to the enemy.

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Can someone give me a quick rundown on what changed since beta15?

>>174620217
some shit got buffed, some shit got nerfed

>>174620217
http://ufopaedia.org/index.php/Change_Log_(Long_War)

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>>174605638

By Purpleness alone.

>>174619343
shotguns haven't been nerfed, the range bonuses and penalties are the same as vanilla. If anything they've got a buff from the higher maximum damage.

>>174629921
>the range bonuses and penalties are the same as vanilla
Are you sure? I was pretty confident the range penalties were changed to make shotguns suffer at range more.

>>174630119
They do relative to enemy within. In enemy within range bonuses were about 50% higher (mulitplicatively) across the board and took trigonometry into account for angled shots.

XCOM 2 simplifies it by making shotguns get double the rifle bonus. (e.g. +40/+20 at one tile, +32/16 two tiles, etc.)

>>174630119
>>174630495
I should add that that's vanilla behavior. What you're likely perceiving is a combination of NCE and more enemies having innate defense and/or tac sense.

In fact I think they might be buffing shotgun range bonuses if one of the tester's youtube series is anything to go by.

>>174567214
I'm the backer 436 or something. Did you read the interwiews with Gollop? That's what you will see, besides the art.

Expect news soon

>>174633648
>I'm the backer 436 or something
What does that mean exactly?

Fucking based E3245

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=910203574

>>174635449
That is based. When will 1.3 finally release, would be the perfect time to test this.

>>174635910
I've been sitting on a mod playlist for like a week waiting for this shit to drop so I can actually start a campaign.

>>174635449
I'm still waiting for him to release his weapons megapack so I can play more tacticool barbie.

>>174638414
>megapack

I thought that wasn't happening?

Anyone have the pic of that Thin Man looking at a a world meme database?

>>174638491
uwot Seriously? Has he said why?

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I'm thinking of upgrading our imgur to a Booru gallery. Would anons get a lot of use out of that? It would be alot of effort, but I'm considering this after my hanging out in /r6g

>>174638637

Someone better explain what magnificence in LW2 allowed me to miss a fucking HUNDRED PER CENT shot against a Viper.

>>174639035
Could be a glitch, or maybe you rolled a graze and the viper also rolled for a dodge? That does that equal a miss?

>>174638895
He's got too many projects to deal with although the skybox mod was a major one

>>174639035
dodge can demote a hit to a graze but that's it

>>174639154
Flanked shots can be grazes? Jesus Christ.

>>174639207
vanilla behavior

>>174639035
I remember reading somewhere, I think it was in this thread, just after the day the game was released or something, that if the number is something like 99.99%, the game shows you it as 100%. So maybe your number was something like that

>>174639661
Yeah this is also a possibility. Did this carry over from XCOM1? I don't recall.

>>174639787
I don't think XCOM 2's rolls have approximation errors, the game doesn't use any silly shit like Pythagorean theorem like EW.

>>174639948
>>174639787
more info here if you're interested
http://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php/Chance_to_Hit_(EU2012)

pistols should reduce infiltration time

>>174640756
explain your reasoning

>>174640756
maybe you can edit the ini based on the chameleon suit

>>174640836
you can carry it around more hidden than even a smg and should be (imo) quieter than a smg
so when your guys get spooked during infiltration by a collaborator you have a way to shut him up somewhat quietly and quickly
and gameplay-wise so they're more useful

>>174641487
unless they replace the primary weapon then it doesn't make any sense

grenades are lighter and smaller than any handgun

>>174641487
Gameplay wise your reasoning is fine
>quieter than an smg
Have you seen those pistols? Can't agree on that one.

>>174641716
actually in game they have smaller sound range than smgs at 17 tiles while smgs are 18
not a big difference but still

>>174642112
Well that doesn't make much sense imo. X2 "handguns," more like handcannons.

>>174642260
nothing related to stealth in LW2 makes much sense

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>>174642260
>handcannons

DESTINY PORTS WHEN

>>174567746

He is streaming Battlegrounds today right? I could use the radio.

>>174644207
he should be

>>174639035
When LW2 was released there was a graze band infographic. I don't play X2 so take this with a grain of salt, but the graze band is supposed to be 10% above and below your hit chance. So if it says 40%, it's actually 30% hit, 20% graze, 50% miss. Similarly for 100%, that's actually 90% hit, 10% graze. Maybe the chance goes away if you boost yourself to 110% but I doubt it, and there's still dodge rolls for demotion.

>>174645618
This makes me even more pissed because theoretically she had a 117% chance, 107% is still not good enough.