/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

Can't find the post explaining how to install the Stellaris mods to retards.

>>173952065
Hyperlane tracking is a tech.

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Reminder.

Is there any way to change ethics mid game?

>>173952356

There aren't 19 months in the year. Fucking retards.

SPIRITUALIST STRONK
BRING IT ON MATERIALFAGS

>>173952253
C:\Users\NAME\Documents\Paradox Interactive\Stellaris\mod

Put them there, you faggot.

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How do we fix energy credits?

I really dislike how energy credits are currently handled. They feel like the generic money with very little of the sci-fi or "Energy" part of it. Just paying for maintenance and the occasional tile blocker or special project.

As much as you may see it as silly, I think using energy credits to being able to rush technologies, surveying, or perhaps just production like in civ may be a good option. Fluff wise it makes sense; dipping into the powerful energy reserves of the empire to do huge numbers of calculations or engage all factory cycles. Hell it could even be used in an even less realistic but more fun way to supercharge a fleet, empowering them with excess energy.

At the very least, make it so tile blockers only cost energy credits to remove and not minerals. That way you have something significant to spend them on early game.

>>173952537
While it probably is bait there are legitimately people (Americans) who don't know the rest of the world does it the right way.

>>173952537
What is it with americans putting the months before the days anyway? It's bloody retarded.

>>173952392
Yes, several.

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> tfw Vetirisius attacks me
> try to hold them off, just barely able to do so.
> "LET US END THIS" t. Alliance of Umikadra
> Attacks with an ever bigger fleet
> instantly mass spam corvettes
> they take one of my planets, leave it be for now. They will probably go for my main system. Park all of my shit at the edge.
> See the whole fleet move towards it
> have military stations and corvettes there.
> warps in
> shredded by newly upgraded railguns
> destroy the whole attack force

>>173952629
Well, the main difference between Credits in Stellaris and Gold in Civ is that Gold is the main thing you can use to trade with other empires. It's the currency of the game, and it's used as such.

In Stellaris, credits rarely feel like a currency because usually Minerals are the valuable thing being traded. Nobody needs credits. Everybody needs minerals.

>>173952641
Idk man, this country is ass backwards with that kind of shit. However we did get it right with the imperial measurements, at least when it comes to building, using metric when trying to build a house is a pain.

>>173952356
The game is currently priced with a 25% discount until that date correct? Or has Alpha already past ?

>>173952143
Cute cat.

>>173952641
Cultural thing, most Americans would say todays date as April 14th, as opposed to saying the 14th of April, so they write their dates the same way.

>>173952864

Exactly. So it should be used for something else, or at least make some processes take only it and no other resources.

>>173952934
>we did get it right with the imperial measurements
Care to explain how you "got it right" by using the real life equivalent of your own snowflake unit?
Also, we were talking about dates earlier, wanna hear about the first floor of a building too? For EVERYONE ELSE in the ENTIRE PLANET, the first floor is NOT the ground floor.

>>173953008
Isn't that also English? But the English write day/month/year in the shortened form.

>>173953002
Until release day.

>>173952864
If credits could be used to rush something like most 4x game, it wouldn't be stockpiled to uselessness. Minerals only become useless when you can't build faster than you can spend but credits, you only need a small stockpile when you need to terraform and pay the Gypsies and Museum guys for their bonus. I recalled that fleets used to not take minerals as upkeep and cost a ton more in energy so they were important back then for that at least.

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I was out of pictures related to strategy and I was afraid of the old thread dying since it was already on page 10.

>>173953023
>>173953105
It doesn't really resolve the issue, but it's a good idea to trade lump sums of resources in exchange for monthly income. Kind of stabilizes your economy.

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>ether drake, dimensional horror and spectre all in systems right next to each other

I just found a great system!
It has four asteroids with 8 minerals and one with 6! Isn't that just great?!

>>173953289
Just reading this makes me feel cautious and apprehensive.

>>173953023
The problem with energy is realistically your balance can be literally any fucking number, so long as your income is 1+. Because, like you said, there's basically nothing worth spending it on. The sole exception being that you can go to those trader enclaves and exchange it for the much more valuable minerals at a 2:1 ratio. Rush buying needs to be a thing, not everything in the empire is publicly owned, surely we can hire some private contractors to help build shit, even if it's not an instant completion like regular 4x but just a massive % boost to build time or something. Hell why not edicts that you can pay for with credits, like paying families to have more children to provide a pop growth bonus or something.

>>173953062
I cant speak for all of England but locally we'd say the 14th of April which matches dd/mm/yy format. yy/mm/dd Is also an acceptable written format because there's still a clear logical progression.

>>173953062
Okay how many centimeters is the average doorway in width? Or what fraction of a meter is it? Or fire many millimeters? Cause I can tell you it's 2 feet 6 inches to 3 feet using the imperial system.

Why are you so butthurt over a conversion?

Do you like 4x games with weirder, whackier factions like in Endless series/Sword of the Stars or do you prefer more generic factions with fewer big differences like in Civ or Stellaris?

>>173953387
Some sort of addition to the game recognising the differences between state-run and privately-run economies would be nice.

Although any empire modelling an actual free and unguided market would probably be sector-tier.

>>173953387
>not everything in the empire is publicly owned
>His space empire isn't communist.

>>173953387
It makes sense too. It's just that month/day/year doesn't make any.

>>173953402
>get mad over banter
>"WHY ARE YOU SO BUTTHURT YOU FUCKING NON AMERICAN"
For some reason, I start to understand why Americans are scorned and have poor reputations.

>>173953439
Endless's factions are the best thing about the games I think. Vastly different playstyles between some of them makes new playthroughs seem less repetitive.

>>173953402
Not a part of this conversation but are you guys literally saying

>I can use my measurement system to measure doors
>CAN YOU?!

Because yes, yes he can measure doors.

>>173953489
Name number number is more natural than number name number.

Also in a farming setting, the month is more important than the specific day.

>>173953213
90% of 4x games have energy/gold/currency as a rush build option for a reason, it gives the player who specialized in it flexibility to respond to threats either by dumping into an emergency military or buying off an enemy (Why is energy trading not used for bribing empires into war?). It's use as an upkeep is laughable since you will never go into red except for in early or very late game where you go past fleet cap.

>>173953062
>For EVERYONE ELSE in the ENTIRE PLANET, the first floor is NOT the ground floor.
Americans actually get it right. Why shouldn't the initial floor be the 1st floor? It is the first one. Why effectively designate it a '0th' floor? Why call the second floor the first one, when it actually is the second floor?

>>173953528
That would make sense if 90% of the population were still farmers.

>>173953593
>Americans actually get it right
>everyone else does it differently but we're right
Yeah, sure.

>>173953593
I'm not American, and I always think "Ground Floor, Second Floor, Third Floor." and get lost whenever somebody gives me directions.

Civ 6 for $40 is that a good deal?

the deluxe is $50 atm

>>173953637
>Everyone else
Argumentum ad populum.

>>173953702
Truly an unfortunate hybrid system.

>>173953702
So you don't need to be american to be stupid. That's a discovery.
I learned about that stuff when I was 10. What's your pathetic, flimsy excuse?

>>173953637
>muh urbanite sensabilities dictate that everything has to have an ordered progression and be in base-tens

You need to be crushed.

>>173952934
>using metric when trying to build a house is a pain.
must be so hard knowing what a certain amount of something is compared to a bigger or smaller amount of the same type is.

I want to make a 4x game. How can I make sure it is good?

>>173953751
>>173953758
I would argue that my hybrid system would be the least confusing, if everybody agreed to use it. There's literally no ambiguity.

>>173953751
Lickus my biggus dickus.

>>173953787
If you're bad at math or american, it sure it haaaard to convert.

>>173953818
Beta testing, catering to the "fun" factory, make it feel like you're really leading an empire.

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Does anybody here know how to manually add portraits to Stellaris? I like some species from the Distant Worlds Portraits pack, but most of them look like shit and the creator also integrated them into the vanilla sub-groups, instead of just putting them all in their own group.

>>173953831
>>I would argue that my hybrid system would be the least confusing, if everybody agreed to use it.
Of course. But the issue is precisely that NOBODY ELSE uses it, and then said that, americans just reply "muh ad populum" and use the same retarded system just to make themselves speshal snowflakes.
If you want to use your own system, don't come crying when nobody else use it. Or go live as a hermit in the mountain.

>>173953637
Being founded by independent farmers was a big deal in our early history as we established our own identity and separated ourselves from the British cultural sphere. We obviously didn't want to be 'those Brits that pretend they're not Brits'.

It's sort of similar to the reason why words are spelled differently here. Webster published his dictionary first, before Oxford's, and we had absolutely no reason to switch to the British spelling when we already had our own, and it helped give us our own identity regardless.

In imperial:
The wall just got ten feet higher.

In metric: The wall just got the distance light travels in 3/299792458 of a second taller.

>>173953860
>If you're bad at math or american, it sure it haaaard to convert.
>i'm being pointlessly inefficient hurr durr

Damn these Stellaris dlcs cost too much. I would pretty much have to buy the game again

>>173953931
While I've got everybody's attention, I'd like to talk about my wonderful system of measurement that nobody else on earth uses. It's super helpful for measuring doors and heights of walls and converting things to bigger or smaller things.

In metric :
One kilometer is equal to 1,000 meters.

In Imperial :
One elbow is equal to 3,5 feet, or 3,65 feet if it rains, and an arm is equal to 0,3546 feet, or 0,33 if the captain is more than forty years old.

>i am so retarded that I cannot do basic math besides shifting a number in the base-10 system, but if you use a measuring system that isn't toddler-tier i'm going to call you inept at math

>>173954059
The US military uses metric, why doesn't the rest of the country?

>>173953931
>Being butthurt I pointed out your fallacy.
You should've made an actual argument to justify your floor-naming, rather than say that everyone else does it, like peer pressure is somehow an argument.

Why do you want Americans to be like you, anyway?

>>173954110
>the Americans soldiers are actually smarter than the rest of the population
This makes my fanatic pacifist blood boil.

>>173953860
>make it feel like you're really leading an empire.

You mean like how Stellaris does it? Because everyone here seems to hate it.
>What do you mean my biological beings with free will get unhappy if I purge innocent beings or try to resettle them to other worlds? Oh well I'll just go fanatical purifiers LOL EXTERMINATE XD

>tfw you enslave the pops angry at slavery and they're not a problem anymore.

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So the deluxe edition of Civ 6 is $50 do u guys think thats a good idea?

>tfw i spent 40 years fighting a gigantic slaver empire wasting hundreds of thousands of minerals for 3 shitty systems

wasnt smart but sure was fun

>>173954173
No, I mean like DISTANT WORLDS, where you have a shitload of civilians ships going around.

>>173954207
You can get a slut for less than that, and you'll get more pleasure from it.

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>>173953897
I followed the tutorial on stellaris wiki for that
http://www.stellariswiki.com/Portrait_modding

>>173954110
Because certain metric measurements, such as Celsius, are less useful in day-to-day usage, whereas others offer no added advantage over their imperial counterparts. The only time metric is explicitly beneficial is when you need exactness, and indeed in every such field in America, they use metric.

In fact, every student in the United States is taught the metric system during elementary school, and it continues to be reinforced through middle and highschool science classes.

>>173954245
More like autist worlds amirite

>>173954301
>choose sex
Can I pick "yes"?

>>173954303
>The only time metric is explicitly beneficial is when you need exactness
And when you need to convert units.

>>173953523
Yeah well I've actually built houses using both. There are clear defined increments and guidelines you can use with imperial that make it a much faster process while metric requires you to eye the tape measure precisely in order to get the proper length which takes marginally longer but slows the whole process down.

Basically
Imperial has larger intervals per one foot giving the builder an easier time when measuring out specific units while metric has much smaller intervals per one meter that require a more precise measurement.

Maybe you euros are just so used to metric you don't notice but I've used both imperial and metric my entire life due to having immigrant parents and I've found imperial is way more convenient for building.

People keep asking to have migration treaties with me, why would I want this? I can build robots to do jobs and my birds grow reasonably quickly, is there any positive? I'm playing as Fanatic militarist / materialist so I don't think that is something they would do.

>>173954427
So imperial is convenient in one field out of thousands. Good to know.

I myself have built houses for years in hammers, and I think they're a a lot more handy.

>>173954404
>And when you need to convert units.
Not an issue with day-to-day usage, since it's rather simple to memorize the few conversions that need to be done, mainly inches to feet to yards and the whole fluid volume sequence. Nobody is going to bother converting feet to miles in their daily life.

>>173954460
let them in goy diversity is strength

>>173954427
Not a construction worker (thank god) but it sounds like accurately measuring the thing you're building is a good idea.

I wonder what measurement system they used for the Burj Khalifa, Taipei 101, etc etc.

>>173954460
Helps you get pops with different biome preferences without conquering. Not everyone can build robots.

>>173954301
Thanks!

>>173954481
And it's even easier to convert metric units. Literally just remove or add a zero. Even if you're shit at math, you don't even need a calculator.

>>173954543
I wonder what they used back in the days to build the pyramids.

>>173954152
>Fanatic Pacifist.

No wonder you're a retard. Rejecting conflict is inherently anti-nature. You're a complete failure. Pacifism is an evolutionary dead-end. In nature, it's kill or be killed. And despite your little principled stand for pacifism, the bears and lions don't care. They'll eat you anyways.

Same goes with people. Nobody cares that you're a pacifist. You're just making yourself an easy subject who won't fight back. You will have no legacy. Your children will be nothing like you. The entire point of nature, to reproduce, is avoided by you.

There is only one truth you need to know: war. We've been fighting it forever, just on varying degrees of severity. War is how you beat down the chaotic forces of nature. War is how you survive and secure your legacy. A pacifist is never remembered. A war hero is never forgotten.

Don't think for one moment these enemies will treat us nicely. Even if they will this generation, what about the next? How long did the Bretons live in France until the French decided to kill that culture? How long did the Greeks live in Constantinople before the Turks kicked them out? This is the risk you run with pacifism. Unless your enemy is dead, they will ALWAYS have a chance to come back and defeat you. Why even take the risk? It's so incredibly stupid, when your extinction is always on a hair's edge, that you'd take the risk of pacifism.

>americafat mistaking pacifist for non-violent
How embarassing!

>>173954675
I see what you're getting at, but a pyramid is an inherently stable structure. Compare the height and width. A better example for you to use would be some kind of Gothic cathedral, or the Hagia Sofia.

>>173954543
They probably used metric for those since basically everything is going to be custom made.

But when it comes to a house and the standard interior door frame is 6ft 6 inches x 2ft 6inches because that's been the standard for 200 years you're just going to keep using that measurement. Especially since it's a hell of a lot easier to remember than 1981 mm x 762 mm. I know this because I recently had to buy a new door after a small electical fire ruined one
It's also easier for factories to just keep pumping doors out at that size rather than split production for a transition to a new standard when houses using the old size are still going to be around in another hundred years.

I sympathise with the guy on that point, houses are built to last and as such their measurements stick around a lot longer than they would elsewhere.

>>173954816
Yeah, but I actually know what a pyramid is, while I have no idea what a Gothic Cathedral or an Hagia Sophia are.
Plus in Europe, the metric system was adopted late, so they probably used imperial units back then, which explain why so many building collapsed.

>>173954675
>And it's even easier to convert metric units.
Technically, but only the stupidest actually NEEDS that slight bit of extra ease. And for children, there is a short time where numbers like 4 or 16 are way easier to conceptualize than ones like 100.

But regardless, my point is that in daily usage there is no big advantage to metric. Certainly nothing significant enough to overcome cultural inertia. People just don't want to bother dropping imperial entirely, and they don't have any reason to either.

Also, I should mention that some decades ago, the US government wanted to convert to metric, but after determining the cost of replacing all the equipment, tools, and signage, that it's actually much cheaper to stick with Imperial than it is to endure the expensive process of flipping to Metric.

>>173954675
>I wonder what they used back in the days to build the pyramids.
Their basic units of measurement were the rod and cubit. Don't remember the rest of their units.

>>173954782
Rome wouldn't have fallen if they killed all the German tribes 3 centuries earlier. Preventative strikes is almost pacifistic, it's really just an extension of self defense.

But that's my entire point on why pacifism is wrong; you've always got to defend yourself and that means killing all of your enemies, and your potential future enemies. If you can't defend yourself by using preventative strikes, then why CAN you defend yourself when a madman charges you with a knife? Clearly the pacifist must acknowledge that you have the right to shoot the assailant before he actually commits the crime of assault; or else you wouldn't be able to shoot him. And likewise, what's the difference between a few seconds and a few centuries? It's nothing in the cosmological scale.

>>173954906
>only the stupidest actually NEEDS that slight bit of extra ease
But we're talking about americans, so they need all the help.

>>173954957
Oh golly. Talk about unclear units.

>>173954821
That number looks like one of the ones you get when you take a convenient imperial measurement and convert it straight into metric. The same process gets you cans and bottles with bizarre volumes like 461 ml or whatever. If you took a door which had been conceptualised and constructed in Yurop, it would probably be in nice round numbers - probably something like 2m x .75 m.

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post ur empires

>>173954981
I already established with you, anon, that Americans are all taught Metric in elementary school. The basic, standard units of metric are well-known to everyone. They just don't remember the conversion formulas between imperial and metric and don't possess much of an innate reckoning of size/degree for metric, due to it not being their natural measurement system. But again, they do know it.

>>173954675
Whites have always been good at engineering. That's how they were built. The blacks enslaved the whites in Egypt and forced them to build the pyramids. Do you really think the black pharaohs could of built a pyramid? Do they even do that today?

>>173955101
>pharaohs
>black

>>173955095
So Americans know both but keep using imperial units out of habit.
This is so stupid it's laughable.

>>173955101
>black pharaohs
They never existed, stop with that bullshit. Ramses II was even ginger, the antithese of a nigger.

>>173954987
That's the standard interior door size in England. Because of the aforementioned 200 year old house problem, hell my house was built sometime in the middle of the industrial revolution. It's similar in mainland europe, newer properties are shifting towards more sensible metric measurements like you mention, but all the old buildings still use imperial measurements because they're that old.

>>173955101
That's sort of true of the ones at Giza, since they were built in the 25th Dynasty, but it's not true of all pyramids. Also, Egyptians are related to Arabs and Berbers, so they're not black nor are they white, unless you consider all Caucasoids to be white.

>>173955137
>>173955171
He might be referring to the 25th Dynasty, which is when the pyramids at Giza were build. During this roughly 80 year period, Nubians ruled Egypt due to a conquest they enacted during a period of in-fighting in Egypt. They mostly put themselves in the pharaoh position and a few high priests and let Egyptians rule themselves otherwise. They did get kicked out, though, and that period was the ONLY one where blacks ruled in Egypt.

>>173955226
"Sensible"

*sips NPR mug*
i can't believe that i have to deal with these problematic imperial units. how dare someone use units that don't satisfies the decimal cult? I literally am oppressed every time i walk through my own door oh my goodness.

>>173955171
>This is so stupid it's laughable.
Why? There's just no benefit for them to switch, and as I said, there's no government pressure either because it costs more to switch everything to Metric than it does to switch to Imperial.

Honestly, give it another fifty years maybe, and people will use Metric here for the most part, maybe keeping one or two imperial measurements in common usage like the Brits did. It's already becoming more popular slowly. Within my lifetime, liters have become the standard measurement for most large amounts of fluids over gallons, as an example.

>>173955257
>blacks in control of a prosperous country
>kicked out after letting people do what they wanted
Assuming you're not lying, it's FUCKING HILARIOUS. Sadly, retards will still believe the black pharaohs meme.

Even through the only black pharaoh deserving a mention is Nyarlatothep.

>>173955349
Only if you're a degenerate who buys soda by the 2-liter bottle.

Everyone buys milk by the gallon you idiot.

I also shudder to think of being forced to buy half or one or two liter milk containers. utterly digusting.

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>>173955101

>the Egyptians were black

Here we go

>>173955428
I'm not.

There's also the legend of another Nubian who conquered and rule for like one year that they like to talk up, but there's no archeological evidence of that one.

>>173955428
>>173955472

But Egypt isn't a prosperous society, nor was it ever: It was riddle by famines, slavery, and spend most of its time in decline. It sounds like good enough reason for it to be black for me.

Besides, how else will I guilt-trip blacks over the white slaves they owned in Africa?

>>173955443
I said most, senpai.

>>173955513

For its time it was pretty damn good.

>>173955472
I'd call it a draw to be honest.

and they picked up the win 50 years later anyway.

Should i use bombers or strike craft?

>>173955556
No

>>173955329
>what r context pls help
Sensible refers to them being metric measurements for stuff that arent horribly direct conversions like 1981 mm x 762 mm and are instead 2000mm x 760mm, simple easily remembered base 10 measurements that are wholly incompatible with the older doorframes.

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>>173955031

>>173955513
>Egypt isn't a prosperous society
My inner 8-years old who was fascinated with pyramids, treasures, mummies and desert says you're a mean poopface.

>>173955485
I am laughing so much. Fucking every documentary on Youtube is plagued with retarded "why are you rewriting history? Pharaohs were black" comments, and now I know how shit this is.

>>173955556
>Should i use bombers or strike craft?
neither.

unless you've got a mod with ship types that includes a proper carrier and even then you wouldn't want a few more of them.

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Imperial vs. Metric
Metric is logical and far easier to scale. Doesn't really have any downside that doesn't involve conversion to other things.
BOTH are equally accurate.
Imperial was designed to be easy to use in the heads of illiterate farmers, for small values at least. But it scales horribly badly and has somewhere close to 3 dozen various sub-divisions which overlap with each other creating a squirrel's nest of conversion tables. Pic related.

Metric > Imperial
It's only inertia (both cultural and economic) that is keeping some nations from adopting it.
This dude knows what's up. >>173955349

>>173955605
"easy"

So you're admitting that metric is for retards.

Will there ever be a 4x space game that makes ground combat actually important or good?

>>173955706
Americans should switch over during their inevitable Great Infrastructure Project.

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>everyone is talking about Imperial system and I'm like "what the hell is everyone talking about"

>>173955556
Bombers no, fighters maybe. The PD sections on cruisers and battleships come with hangers so if you want to make a cruiser variant with PD on it grab some fighters, they're surprisingly effective at murdering corvettes too.

>>173955706
>lol i'm just going to take every unit england has used since the ancient aliens first seeded earth with life and say it's the official imperial system.

For most civilians, all you need to know is: inch, foot, yard, mile.

If you're using boats, you also need to know what a nautical mile is.

That's it. 80% of that graph is garbage.

>>173955706
I still maintain that Celsius is inferior for daily usage, though.

>>173955706
Imperial is literally just "this much". It isn't accurate, and it only serves to give a rough idea.
Metric is for grown men who need accurate measures.

>>173954898
>I have no idea what a Gothic Cathedral or an Hagia Sophia are

You have no business being here discussing architecture and engineering then.

>>173955915
This is 100% justifable. Fahrenheit is 80% more accurate.

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>>173955031

>>173955513
>how else will I guilt-trip blacks over the white slaves they owned in Africa

You don't, guilt-trip them over the fact that they were the ones who sold their people into slavery.

Hate to break it to you euro-losers but civil engineers here still use the foot on pretty much everything here

>>173955708
>Easy is bad

>ITT : Americafats try to defend their speshul snowflakes privilege without realizing they're laughed at

>>173955812
You know the Empire would of used the Imperial system while the Alliance would have been metric shills. Of course maybe you're actually ill enough to support the ewok-enablers instead of making the galaxy a cleaner, nicer place.

>>173956054
>catering to retards is good

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>>173956096
>would of
>calls other people retards

>>173955708
>if a thing makes doing something simple it means it's for retards

Making things unnecessarily complicated when you've got an easy solution right there for you is what's retarded.

>>173955915
I just wish 0 in fahrenheit was actually freezing point. Then it would make more sense.

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>>173956096
>would of
Nice going, moron.

>>173955915
>>173955960
Nah.
I'd say the opposite.
The only benefit Fahrenheit has over Celcius is that it is 1.8x more accurate without using decimals.
But since decimals are trivial to use and such accuracy is largely irrelevant for every day use, it really isn't that much of an advantage.

>biased as fuck since I haven't seen F used anywhere here beyond an old gas oven I had that was made in the 50s, and some papers using it to "inflate" summer temperatures to make them sound hotter.

>>173955915
Celsius is best, 0,1°C is conveniently the smallest temperature change most people can feel.

>>173956192
90% of those people deserved a harsher punishment. 5% of them were innocent, and 5% of them got a fair punishment.

>>173956096
>would of
I hole-hardedly agree, but allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go. Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn't take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It's clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the facts. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother's mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it’s a peach of cake.

>>173956201
Decimals inconvenience the saying and remembering of numbers. This is trivial, but remember,, we're talking about the common usage, where such trivialities definitely do influence people.

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>>173956096
>Measuring in feet, thumbs & dicks like a true savage retard

>>173956269
My favorite copypasta

>>173956240
>it's okay for a policeman to beat a suspect before a trial
Why bother having a trial then? We should just beat people directly! In fact, we should beat everyone up, there may be people deserving it in the lot!

Playing the Civ VI demo and the edge scrolling is ruining the game for me. Is this fixed in the full version or will I have to edit config files?

>>173956323
Anon, your cops don't even have guns and refuse to arrest rapists. Ours might be more violent, but at least they're not useless.

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Never forget.

>>173956379
Do you even know what country >>173956323 is from?
Cops in my country definitely have guns, they're not a tenth as violent and likely ten times as effective as US cops.

>>173956428
No, but both points are a safe bet on European cops. Those to which it doesn't apply are the exceptions.

>>173956379
Sorry to disappoint you, but cops in my country ARE effective. They're just trained to not lose their cool.

>>173956323
Lynch mobs are very effective at creating social unity. Locals should decide how they want to police their society - and if that includes the occasional lynch mob, then god bless them.

You can't go to trial over everything. For example, what if someone is charging at you with a knife. Oh mister assailant, please go to court so we can settle if I can shoot you. You've got to make the decision in that moment and YOU play judge. And once you realize that, why just keep it at fringe scenarios? Wrapping up the judge, jury, executioner, and law-enforcement into one person is a lot more efficient than your shitty metric system

>>173956459
And which country is this, since that other anon thinks it's important?

I bet they still don't arrest rapists.

>>173956505
How much do you bet?

>>173956459
>>173956530

they're effective at ignoring asian rape gangs lol

>>173956530
Half a meme.

>>173956540
>Asian

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>>173956387
>Israel & US informative bantmasters

Oyyyy gevaaalt, goyim golem.

>>173956486
Why not adapt the medieval system for the modern day?

Apply for a license as a lawkeeper. If a local authority decides there's crime afoot, you and your fellow licensed lawkeepers have to find and detain that person for questioning. In a couple weeks, some sort of authorised travelling judge passes through and uses your collected information to decide what to do.

Oh shit, I just realised that's how things worked in the Wild West, isn't it?

>>173956540
So you're just going to talk out of your ass but avoid actually betting money.
Gotcha, americafat.

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If i want to have the best pop yelds, best planets and in general min-max like a bitch, what ethos should i pick? And should i go synths or genetically modified pops?

>>173956584
See >>173956556

Here's some future advice, though. Nobody in America calls Muzzies 'Asians'.

>>173956573
I don't know about Israel but I'm pretty sure that's the joke with America.

Rest of the chart send pretty accurate

>>173954969
>Rome wouldn't have fallen if they killed all the German tribes 3 centuries earlier

*cough*Teutoburg*cough*

>>173955472
I'm not finding a good source for that quote.

>>173956278
Should you put extra reactors then? So that your corvettes have even more evasion?
I have a corvette design right now, costs 170 minerals. It has 3 IV railguns, intermediate combat computer, lvl II thrusters, two medium III reactors and three small III shields. The shields give it 135 shield points, they regen at 7,2 per second and it has 66,9% evasion.
If I replace the shields with reactors, I get 70,4% evasion but it costs 185 minerals. With just enough to function I get 66,6% evasion and it costs 110 minerals.

>>173956646
Eh, I'd say bongs should be much more shitposting and slightly more informative. Leafs are right where they belong though

>>173956837
I think we can all agree on the leafs

>>173956613
You can go the caste system route or the egalitarian route.
caste system maximizes minerals and food, while egalitarian maximizes energy and minerals.

>Fanatic authoritarian, slaver guilds, mining guilds
>Industrious, agricultural, strong

or
>egalitarian
>Oligarchy, megacorporation, mining guilds
>Thrifty, industrious, strong

If you want to use robuts for minerals take fanatic materialist to further enhance your mineral gains at a reduced cost of energy.

>>173956387
Bongs should be shifted more toward the center, Americans should be down right above the line, and Israel should be on the opposite side entirely. Leafs and aussies are right where they need to be and the rest of the countries don't matter.

I can't believe that idiots who can't even decide the appropriate level and use of force in society actually think they know how to fix gaems

>>173956912
Thank you man, what about the gene-route or the synth route? Which give better yelds?
Is there the Share the burden edict (the one which increases all slaves and robots/synths yelds by 20%) yet? If yes. hich ethics now allow to pick it, and is it still the best "yeld-per-pop" route to go full-synth?

>>173957101
I don't have utopia so I don't know about ascension perks.

Also if you want to gain some extra unity growth splash spiritualist for temples. There's a whole other build if you want to get maximum unity growth too.

>>173957101
Synth can be replicated by going biological and building synths when you want. It's useless.

>>173957334
Do you mean that, with gene modding, one can reach the 40% increased yelds (20% from synth/slave-edict + 20% from synths) even with biological pops?
Or do you just mean that the ascension perk is pointless since i can just build them instead?

TL;DR: synths or gene-modded pops for maximum yelds? Which ethics and governments support the former and the latter playstyle?

>>173957486
>Or do you just mean that the ascension perk is pointless since i can just build them instead?
This. All the features enabled by their first ascension perk, the cybernetic one? Voided. All their traits? Voided. They function exactly like regular synths in every way.

>>173957094
Who are you talking about?

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The skull on this thing is a bad sign right?
like, It will fuck me up or something right?

>>173957748
>1K fleet

yes, it will fuck you and your family

Why when I put "auto upgrade" do my stations not upgrade when I add new shields?

>>173955905
>12 inches is 1 foot which makes up 3 yards, 1760 of which make up a mile.

retarded

>>173957748
It just means it's over 500 power. You'll be fine.

>>173956387
You can tell this was made by an American, everybody thinks their country is the smartest most humorous.

normal is too easy
hard is too hard

tfw lost four games now on hard

>>173957748
>no period after E in the ship designation
fuck you

>>173957486
Does the slave edict work on full-citizen-rights synths? Otherwise that point is useless anyway.

>>173957574
I think the main reason for the synthetic path is the reduced robot maintenance, which gives you some pretty ridiculously low cost when combined with fanatic materialist. The pops can be emulated by just building a lot of synths, but without synth ascension, you'll pay twice as much for upkeep.

recc me essential stellaris mods

Man, I had a great start in Stellaris. Found a sphere thing and it gave me Sentient AI right at the beginning of the game... which could have been bad, but it would been interesting to see what happened. And then I realized I accidentally allowed my super strong xenophobic asshole race to appear in the game.

What exactly was the logic behind making the galaxy core a big cloud of nothing?

>>173958007
DLC, what else?

>>173957918
The main reason is to pretend to be tossing materialists a bone so less people will question their spiritualist favoritism.

>>173958007
S0-102 system when

>>173958080
ah, right

>>173957918
It does, but i was wrong, it's a 10% increase to all yelds, not 20%.
Sorry to be a bother, so what will it be? Synths with this edict or gene-modded pops for maximum yelds? For the former i was thinking Fanatic Materialist + Egalitarian or Xenophobe., for the latter i have no idea.

>14 engineering research points in my home system and nothing else

Gotta love that random galaxy generation

>stellaris
>stellaris + leviathans
>stellaris + utopia
>stellaris + utopia + leviathans
I'm poor and buying them all will be a big commitment. Are they really worth it?
Is base game enjoyable by itself?

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>>173958295
>getting two shadow play planets right next to eachother in the first few years of the game

>>173958007
The galaxy is a representation of the systems relevant to our interests. The stars in the galactic core are "undesirable because of the violent forces at work there"

Mods fix it.

>>173958332
Pick up leviathans when it's on sale.
Wait for utopia to go on sale.
Leviathans is fairly worth it. Utopia isn't near worth the $20.

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>>173958387
>Systems relevant to our interest
Then why do I get so many system that have no resources, no research spot, and no inhabitable planets?

>>173958523
Because haven't you seen our FUNNY BLORG MAYMAYS?

Really it's because paradox didn't think proper galaxy generation was an important thing. Something else on the long list of things they didn't understand when designing the game.

>>173958516
>fallen earth

The fuck, is this a mod?

New Stellaris player here. What's the point of the different weapon sizes? It seems like they all do the same amount of damage and have the same power cost for their size and cost. Like 7.5 damage for small, 15 damage for medium, etc.

What is the general strategy for designing ships like that?

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How about a game where everybody is fanatical purifier?

>playing xenophobic empire
>near-immortal leader's agenda is "xeno outreach"

Who the fuck designed this agenda system?

>>173958683
So a regular game but faster?

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So I've downloaded this Distant Worlds Portrait Pack and I'm extremely fascinated with this one portrait in particular. Needless to say, I have never played Distant Worlds, but I want to know what this race is called. Is it even a race or just a custom portrait in DW? Please help!

>>173953387
When I cap out on energy I just trade it away for other things I need based on my current deficiencies.

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>>173958619
Yeah, it's from the Fallen Empires Expanded mod. Sol sometimes either appears as it always does in its vanilla form, or appears as one of two FEs - one featuring Humans in a state of decline, the other being this one, where Sol was invaded by aliens and everything that were colonies for the Human Sol FE now being tomb worlds, and Mars being terraformed into a 25 tile Gaia world.

It's the first time that FE has actually appeared in any of my games with the mod on so far, so I don't know if these guys being on the outside of it is coincidental or programmed in, just like how the Military Supremacist FE from the mod always has a puppet state covering the parts outside their territory.

>>173955743

Imperium Galactica 2 did that, man.

>>173954460
Use droids to colonize worlds to the preferences of the people you can get migration treaties with so you have pops to get energy, science, and unity on those planets.

>>173956802
My corvettes got 86% evasion, if I decide to slap on 2 more enigmatic power cores it bumps it up to 89% but costs 70 more minerals which isn't really cost effective(for a total of 400 minerals without any cost reducing bonuses).

>With just enough to function I get 66,6% evasion and it costs 110 minerals
If you can still keep your weapons I'd honestly go with this. It's very cheap and your corvettes are going to die anyway. The 4% evasion for 60 minerals is rubbish so don't bother.

If you're still in early game and don't have cruisers and have very limited naval capacity then pricier corvettes with shields are a way to go. When your naval capacity starts going through the roof and you can't keep up with it then substitute quality for quantity.

I'm trying to go for a federation victory and I've already got quite a large federation, but now those cucks won't accept new members

Is there any way to force them to vote yes?

>>173959142
>Trusting ai
Wait for the buy federation favors dlc.

>>173959142
If you mean cheating then debug yesmen forces favourable diplomacy in other paradox games.

>>173958670
>What's the point of the different weapon sizes?
Range, tracking and damage. Ships have evasion and armor.

Longer ranged and heavier hitting weapons tend to have terrible tracking which means they have trouble hitting small fast ships like corvettes. Corvettes have great evasion but thin armor so they're damaged easily by small light weapons. A battleship probably 50-100 armor (which caps at 90% deflection) armor so the small weapons on a corvette will barely do any damage to it, they'll hit nearly every time since the battleship has almost no evasion.

There's torpedoes which do massive damage and let corvettes kill battleships.

Longer ranged weapons are good because they let the ships pick off enemies before they get to shoot back, at the cost of being hard to aim when they're nearby.

Missiles will hit anything so long as they're not shot down, unfortunately AI loves to make point defense "picket" destroyers. Missiles also have an overkill factor where extras are wasted once the target is dead.

Generally you'll start with all small corvette. Get destroyer hull technology and mount a huge weapon for range and either 2 smalls or 2 pds if enemy has missiles. Then upgrade half your corvettes to torpedo boats. Build cruisers with medium mount plasmas/railguns. Finally build an artillery battleship once you start reaching endgame. Phasing out your point defense destroyers once you get flak artillery in favor of more battleships/cruisers with a flak artillery or two on them. Torp corvettes being your meatshields for your artillery battleships.

>>173953289
Well, when does shit happen then? I've built a mining station already, I thought that was enough.

>>173958847
It's not from DW. First line, 4, 5, 6 and 9 are the DW art style.

>>173959128
Nah I have cruisers. I'm waiting for energy torpedoes now. And the lvl II flak.
Did ditch the shields on corvettes.

>>173953062
it has nothing to do with how you say it, and everything to do with readability

the smallest magnitude first, and the largest last, with that system, even if there is written 9/9/9 you 100% know exactly what date it is

if ANY OTHER ARRANGEMENT IS POSSIBLE now you are in la la land with absolutely no way to know what is meant

>>173959459
Or the opposite, year, month and then day.

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>>173959420
Use mods, turn corvettes into speed demons

>>173959613
Eugh.
Though an AI crew auxiliary component would be nice.

I got Utopia along with the update, updated my mods, and now they aren't working in-game, even though they show as "active" in the mods tab on the game launcher.
What the fuck am I doing wrong?

>>173959732
Kind of stupid question, but you aren't trying to load a save-game I presume?

>>173959810
No, I'm not that dumb.

>>173959857
Maybe it's a combination of a couple of mods that fucks everything else up? Have you tried disabling some of them to eliminate the defunct one?

How do I see MY diplomatic relations like when you click on other factions? I can't remember who I have non-aggression pacts with.

>>173960203
>S0-102
empire screen

>>173960232
>IS-297
Oh, thanks matey.

>>173960086
Yeah, I tried using just the UI Overhaul one, not luck in that

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>tfw piratefag
>commenting on the workshop to point out bugs everyone misses somehow
>then downloading fixed versions after they get re-uped from buyfriend

>>173960291
Then UI Overhaul is the one you should stay away from? lol dunno

Why can't I find out what policies the AI have or what they have various species rights set to?
If say an empire offered a migration treaty how would I know my pops wouldn't be enslaved?

Why isn't there a tab on the species page to show how particular species are spread across the various empires? Like if I wanted to see at a glance what Empires build Synths or if members of my species moved to an empire I have no treaty with through one that I do.

>I can create cloned armies
>I can create gene modified super soldiers
>But I cannot create cloned gene moded super soldiers

It's things like this that just makes me super disappointed at this game. I just want my own Jango Fett army

>>173960620
Huh, really makes me put things into perspective... I guess it doesn't hurt to try

>>173960841
Does anyone have that screen of what Wiz-said on dull generic gaming. This would be one of those faggots.

FUCK THIS ALEATORY TECHNOLOGY SISTEM
FUG
I JUST WANT SINTHETIC BUT THIS SHIT DOESNT COME, I AM EVEN IN REPEATABLE TECHNOLOGY, FUCK THIS, PARADOX WORST DEV

>>173960841
>not making super strong drone clone army
Or did they fixed it already?

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>>173960927
Are you by any chance a spiritualist/hive mind?

What is the benefit of playing as hivemind?

>>173961074
It's like F. purifiers, but worse and you don't have to care for factions or happiness.

Is there an updated white only mod? I want to play the Khan. And seeing how the only difference between them and humans is theyre white...

>every 4x space game with humans in it
>everyone plays as XD FOR TEH EMPEROR! shit

It seems the best way to keep edgy faggots from ruining your game's community is to just not include humans.

What would american aliens look like?

>>173961024
I don't have any robots because that's heresy

Gonna try and learn stellaris, should I start of just vanilla? What game setup is 'default' or the one most people play with

Also should I just pick one of the starting/default races or try and create my own

>>173961128
Just get the Iron Sky mod instead

>>173961164
>people enjoy roleplaying
>one of the biggest roleplaying scenes is 40k
>expecting them not to just mod it in
If there was anything other then roleplaying in this game maybe it would be different.

>>173960613
>Not being a patrician who bought the base game on the cheap and pirates the DLCs.

>>173961051
no way, imperial materialist.

>>173961051
i've gotten droid tech pretty soon, but after that no robot tech came.

>>173960927

The best thing about this game is the semi-random technology.

Not only does it make each game unique, but it also helps you know what you should research next without having to learn a whole tech tree and makes it so its less likely you'll get left in the dust by more experienced players/cheating AI.

I mean hell, having technologies come more easily based on your ethics is just genius anyway.

>>173961548
No, it's not good. Fuck you.

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Is there anyway I can take stored resources from sectors? This sector and core world shit seems designed to intentionally cripple me.

>>173960927
>>173961598
Stop using scientists with the wrong specialties.

>>173961745
No.

>>173961757
the >>173961598 was not me, aside from it, i dont have a robotic cientist.

>>173961774
Artificial difficulty.

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>>173961813
Close.

>>173961548
>having technologies come more easily based on your ethics is just genius anyway
No it isn't, X tech give better chance to get Y and you can't get Z without W, are the only acceptable exceptions to otherwise fully randomized tech tree.

Are unity buildings (e.g symbol of unity) in Stellaris worth it?

If I want to modify my species later on, how many trait picks should I leave? Do ascension paths play a role?

>>173961164
What if I play as non-human fanatical shroud worshippers?

which trait the cientist must have to make the android tech line appear more easily?

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>>173961872
I really like the game other than this core worlds thing. gsg players like clicking on things and micromanaging so they made a gsg type game that stops you from clicking on things and micromanaging.

No more Ironman for me. Off to get some mods.

>>173962026
Industry

>>173962075
THANK YYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUU
time to ascend to the iron heaven
and make a rain of knives!

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>>173961598

Care to explain your reasoning instead of throwing a temper tantrum?

>>173962118
>>173961051
Mongoloid.

>>173962173
why mongoloid you fucking faggot?

>>173962161
What about "go fuck yourself, paradrone"?

What are some of the mods you use and highly recommend others to use?

>>173961074
Get extremely adaptive and you can colonize any world without penalty.

>>173962278
>>173961114
Nice, look OP

I thought of a nice, cheesy way to go after a FE fleet

build a bunch of transports, have them outfitted to max evasion and shields, and attack a FE fleet with them; immeadiately following them, from another direction, is your main combat fleet.

>>173962312
i prefeer using robots for it.

>>173962026
>>173961783
It's fucking "scientist"

Can I do ANYTHING with my heir? What is the point of an imperial authority otherwise?

>>173962258
Kek, nice strawman you asinine faggot.

>>173962569
RP

>>173962579
I accept your surrender, drone.

Any work-around way to remove undesired pops from planets aside from purges?
Also, are purges now a Xenophobe only thing?

>AI puts a colony in the same spot again.
>Too close to an FE and they go to war, again.

>>173961185
fat

>>173962648
You can't even purge individual pops, so resettlement is the only way.

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Ummm... alien mural +2s kept coming out. If I research station that it will literally give me more then Im making right now. Almost double it.

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>>173962993
what the fug

>>173963035
I know I kept clicking on the planet and the event kept coming up instead of showing me. Of course I continued, not taking advantage of it would be retarded. It stopped at 14. Might not have been me because it happened randomly after time not clicks. Kind of like tap A to catch pokemon.

>>173962380
>build a bunch of transports, have them outfitted to max evasion and shields, and attack a FE fleet with them; immeadiately following them, from another direction, is your main combat fleet.
yup.

use slave armies from a planet with a military base and an ex-army govenor for maximum cheapness.

they are incredible damage soaks in late game with max shields & capacitors.

>>173962569
Government forms are just memes at this version.
You need the advanced government forms DLC to make them worthwhile

>>173962993
that resolution

>>173963161
Also looks like windows 8.

>>173963161
On a $200 laptop. Ill be upgrading in 6 months when Im into my $150000 a year job. because welding is fucking awesome for money.
(Its 60 hours a week though...)

>genocide a couple of times
>-1000 for everybody
this game doesnt want me to have fun or something

Anyone here use the Stellaris alphamod? How is it?

>>173963340
It was developped by SJWs, of course doing anything else than bending other and let the ayys plow your delicate, perfectly shaven, cute little butt is bound to make them hate you.

>>173963226
>welding
>$150000

Why lie on the internet anon? Thats a 40k/ year job

>>173963393

> Gene mod a literal nomad nigger faction that's always unhappy and makes everyone around them unhappy
> Gift them to ayys
> They run rampant generating unrest and fraction empires everywhere
or
> Xenophobes purge them and become enemies of the galaxy

Really? It seems like /pol/ programmed this game.

>>173962646
I'm not the same guy, you dumb fucking shill.

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Now this is more like my animes

>>173963817
Xenophobes dont purge, not even fanatic ones.

Only fanatical purifiers and hive minds purge, the rest will just enslave them

>>173963625
Welding Submarines is an $80k+/year alllllll the benefits job.

>>173963908
xenophobes do purge im playing one right now

>>173963817
how do you give them to ayys?

>>173955031
This is probably the most frequently used portrait I see.

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>>173963856
> memelasers

Is there a way to get rid of unwanted planets?

>>173962993
> discovered an alien monolith library containing all the information of past galactic cycles
DON'T STOP
HOW HIGH CAN YOU GO???

>ayss in the middle of my empire
>having differents ethos
>always complaining
>purge them
>everyone in the ENTIRE FUCKING GALAXY know about it and hate me
>somehow I'M the bad guy
Can't I just pretend it was a gas leak that killed them all?

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>these fuckers
is it worth it to suppress them at this point? I am Spiritualist so I get +15% governing ethics.

fucking egalitarians suck

>>173964279
That damn interstellar nerve gas

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>>173963856
>no circle formation
enjoy getting rekd

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>>173964283
Instantly suppress, anon.

>>173955031

>>173964283
if you throw every single pop into slavery then the faction disbands. I was running piles of slaves and had half a dozen factions spawn but not actually make any factions. It was because they were being immediately enslaved and wiped out.

>>173955031
Must admit, you gave me a morning chuckle.

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>>173955031
>implying i play anything else than based Humans

Just got endless Space 2. What should I expect?

>>173964356
I'm just a bit upset that everyone in the entire galaxy know and care about it, even slaves and vassals who's supposed to not give a fuck because they're busy trying to survive, and that my governement is just "yeah we slaughtered them all lol".

>>173964571
Dust riots.

Any Aurora 4x players here, or is that too much Autism even for 4chan?

>>173964573
>Somehow magically going to keep the purging of an entire planet under wraps

Simply not realistic.

>>173964571
More pirate attacks than a turn 1 awakened FE.

>finally found qt elves in my game
>they're in a giant federation of like 8 equivalent powers to me
god damn it im never getting elf sex slaves

>>173964701
> Implying there aren't genocides happening right now on Earth that no one knows or particularly cares about
Entirely realistic. If there's no real attachment to the victims the general populace doesn't care.

>>173964701
>people believe in space dragons and End of the Cycle covenant
>but no way there would be some sickness mysetriously killing ayyys on some backwater world

What a good first time setup to learn Stellaris?

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>>173964141
Hey now, there's mods that adds some usuable lasers

>>173958332
just pirate the dlc my dude

>neighbour has same planet preference as me
>conquer all 5 of their planets
>gettin ready to exterminate
>4/5 planets are fully populated
>have to spend over 200 influence relocating a pop from each to the sparsely populated world
>have to then spend more influence to drop one of my own pops there or I'll lose the planets on extermination

There has to be a way to fix this bullshit.

So I have a bunch of undesirables, and they aren't fucking leaving.
Fuck this, bring back purging for authoritarian, nobody must know about the gas chambers.

>>173964795
>Hold up cell phone
>Tweet
>Entire cosmos now knows about the space lizards eating your people.


Problem is there is no third world planets. Any species advanced enough to have space flight is going to be advanced enough to both broadcast shit going down and to have agents in place monitoring shit thats going down

>>173964894
Change your extermination method

>>173958332
> new to paradox games

Here's a quick guide.

You buy the base paradox game when it's on sale.
Then you proceed to pirate every single dlc. It has been done, is done and will be done for as long as the company and its policies exist.

>>173964908
>implying people believe you
>implying orbital jammers aren't a thing
Nobody knew about the concentration camps until the Allied arrived.

>encountering an anthropoid species of opposite ethos
>immediately declare war

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na_Zac23b5E

>>173964908
> Hold up cell phone
> No signal
Well gee wiz I wonder why comms are always the first thing severed before a human rights violation.

>>173964958
This,

Unless it a older game like Hoi3 or Vicky2, or EU3, when you can sometimes find the game plus DLC all dirt cheap on sale.

>>173964994
Frankly its an irrelevant analogy. The tech separation is too great

>>173965015
I know that feel

>>173964956
Can't as Authoritarian/Militaristic/Spiritual

>>173962053
It represents increased decentralisation that comes with a larger empire, It's to slow down steamrolling.

>>173965101
> irrelevant
Planets are separated by light years of space. The only people who know about an exterminatus are the survivors and fleet commanders

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r8 my space Conans

I'm still pissy about purging not actually giving unity. Having said that I figured out the use for Armageddon bombardment.

I'm fairly successful at purifying and have a large empty zone around me to protect and expand into while keeping out filthy ayys. I even moved into tributary'ing distant empires to focus on research and get end game tech faster despite having 8 planets. Having said all that there is a large federation on literally the other side of the galaxy giving me the stink eye. I could tributary, but since there are four members there's bound to be trouble as they blob over their defeated members. If I purify them they can expand into the empty planets. But if I wipe their fleets, and station ships over every planet, I can wipe them out, salt the earth, and make sure nobody every settles there again since Armageddon bombardment leaves tile blockers instead of ruins, and the AI is probably too dumb to terraform to clear them off.

>>173964875

You can always displace those pops, no purge and thus no malus

The political fallout of genocide a species should only affect Empires with possitive relations with say species/empire.
The Space Commies shouldn't give a shit about your Pre-FTL Armenian genocide, but of course the Solar Burgers will throw a shitfit if you touch a Galactic Merchant.

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Tough relationship.

>>173965334
>>173965334
Oh yeah, is that why I can click on a planet on the other side of the galaxy and open comms with them no problem? Sorry but you live in a post cell phone, post internet world

And even if you didnt

>Space Nazis have been bullying out allied planet
>Space Nazis have moved a fleet to blockade our allied planet
>Communication with our allied planet has stopped
>Space Nazis now occupied the former allied planet, all communication has stopped and there are no aliens to be seen
>EVERYTHING IS PROBABLY FINE

>>173965313
Off the top of my head I could come up with a handful of things that would stop the player steamrolling AND give the player complete control of their Empire. Not the anon you're replying to but if there's one constant in the /v/ threads it's the often repeated question "Is the Sectors mechanic out of the game yet" (or words to that effect). It's widely recognised as a dogshit mechanic (to use the scientific term).

>>173965521
The Space Soviets love their scorched sun tactics, so yeah, is probably just them blowing up the communication relay so the Space Nazis are slowed down.

>>173958516
UI mod?

When humans go to different solar systems and land on the planets, are they going to refer to the star as "the sun", or are they going to call it by its actual name. I mean it just sounds weird saying "Wow the Alpha Centauri A is really bright today".

>>173965885
But every system has a sun in it anon