/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

>>173506540
>>173506540
>>173506561
Hold up, event continues.

>>173506429
Both Sanctum and Earth spaceports are the same and both planets have rally points ( Sanctum is in the middle between two hostile empires so its that kind of armed to the teeth system ).

>>173506692
It only sometimes continues.

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Would the Combine be a technocracy or just ultra-authoritarian slaving despots? Yes, I know their real name is Universal Union.

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>>173506753
Militarists in me says - kill them all.

Fanatic materialist says - oh goodie <3

>>173506807
Didn't they make it so he ended up inadvertently saving the rebellion because his conscious stopped him pushing the button just long enough for the station to be destroyed.

>>173506871
I accepted and nothing happened. Ship was destroyed by an unrelated research project though.

>>173506871
Ever watch Event Horizon?

Purge it.

>>173506871

In the previous one it didn't do anything. You just learned of inter-dimensional empires with massive fleets of ghost ships. You get a ghost ship. That's all.

>>173506929
>>173506986
>>173507018

I took it but its a normal science ship :(

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>>173506825

What would be the name of the combine homeworld?

>>173506897
It's not really inadvertently, he becomes reluctant to push the button after the Rebels drop a Lucrehulk (I think?) close to the near finished Death Star and he vaporizes the ship in one shot at 5% power.

>>173506825
>>173507135
Earth.
Their other planets are in other dimensions, obviously.

>>173507135
They probably minet it out with core and everything and then forgot they ever had one

>>173507394
>Earth.
That wouldn't make sense
Specially considering they get cucked out of Earth.

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>>173507027
So basically this article is about you then?

Shouldn't all stars produce a bit of energy? Surely a decent power station could generate shitloads of power from orbiting any star.

>>173506825
>>173507394
Oh yeah, ditch police state for syncretic evolution, use the Sol system and edit the second alien race to be humans, enslave them.

>>173507638
Let's just pretend Freeman doesn't exist.

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>>173507135

Combine Overworld or Overworld 1. Aleph Star.

In the original script, Gordon an Alyx were to be sent to the Aleph universe.

>>173506537
Tell me people
Did someone created a trove for the DLC/expansion?

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Reposting in new thread, this should be the final version

>>173507394
I'd still say thats inadvertently, he didn't mean to doom the Death Star and save the rebellion and he still pressed the button in the end.

Best number of planets for tall? Should I just hit my planet cap and stop? Tried to make a "tall" human civ to rush techs and wonders, but then I realized I was next to an entire free galaxy arm and spammed colonies.

Fuck, I hate this game. The only winning move is still to blob apparently.

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Worth making a federation with a reawakened fallen empire to stop the unbidden? Or just say fuck it and wait it out? Also the unbidden are working their way to me, so don't have that much time.

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>>173506825

Would the Combine be Natural Sociologists (genetics) instead of industrious?

>>173507897
The only winning move is not the play

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>find last cybrex anomaly
>fails

>>173506825

I really dont think they have some sort of "Imperial authority" in the form of a hereditary monarchy lol.

They are indeed materialist but in the end it all comes to control so I think fanatic authoritarian is more fitting.

>not selecting one of the comet flag symbols

>>173508380
MTTH for new ones to spawn is just 10 years

>>173507897
There's no reason to not take territory if its available, regardless of game. Tall shouldn't ever be your first option.

If you max out too soon you will probably be wishing you expanded more.

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>invited an awakened empire into the federation after knocking out the fallen empire that was the completely opposite ethos
>first action it did was spark a galactic war against the boi next door
>everyone else voted yes
when did you realize that you had become a buffer state

>>173508380
Wait you can fail those? Jesus.

>>173508380
>get last cybrex artefact
>cybrex alpha spawns in neighbouring empire
>they get there first and steal the anomalies
Fuck this bullshit, why haven't they fixed it

>>173508552

Why dont people play on a fricking huge eliptic map?

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>>173508380

Precursor quests suck anyway. They should give you Fallen Empire-level reward. Instead, they are just vanilla empires from thousands/millions of years ago. No

As it seems I checked the wrong thread >>173508531 (because I thought Stellaris is a grand strategy game), what is the best option to start getting a gripe on the game? United Nations of Earth?

>>173508974
Apparantly the new Cybrex chain gives you a massive lump of Unity at the end.

>>173508974
cybrex is the only one of value

>Have giant ass fleet
>Can't tell my invasion force to follow because they jump to where I'm going before I do
>Can't jump ahead of them because as soon as I leave the AI throws a gank squad into the system to get them
>Just have to keep reloading saves until eventually I manage to cheese my way into having both fleets in the same system

They really need to fix this

Is there anything more to the psionic ascension path? In early game it's pretty OP (shields, avatars etc), but after that it's basically just a temporary buff which you may or may not get.

>>173508974
>>173509016
>>173509075
Yeah, I managed to take 3 traditions and a half. Trying xenophobe/pacifist/materialist with inwards perfection and agrarian idyll. It's stupid. It's 2244 and I could have 3 ascension perks already if I hadn't taken supremacy, harmony, and mind and body.

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>>173508974

I think the precursor quest should be related to the Fallen Empires on the map. Give them some generic backstory to each kind. Also, it should piss them off, if you do certain things with their tech.

>>173508718
Because elliptic is shit

>>173509452

>More stars

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>most powerful entity in the galaxy
>have had all techs for 100 years, and all traditions for 200 years
>just went through a large war but everyone worth fighting is so big that it takes ages of tedium and babysitting just to occupy enough worlds (and let the war duration thing tick down) in order to claim what I need
>genetic ascendancy
Is there ANYTHING left to do besides fucking kill myself? Should I just abandon this game?

>>173485676
>>173482160
>genemod one portion of your population to be inheritors
>genocide the rest, clearing off their planets
It depends on how the "exile" group is generated, but I think this is a good escape strategy.

Definitely seems more interesting than "we're winning a bit harder now" of other choices.

>>173509604
I'm pretty sure if you vassalise everyone you can still get a victory.

The auto-migration from every world when you colonise is really annoying.

So unbidden just appeared and after scanning some of their debris and getting antimatter guns and jumpdrive I'm kicking their asses pretty easy. Is this all? No more end game crisises?
Where to view win conditions? Conquering whole galaxy is gonna be boring and time-consuming.

Also, is there any bonuses to founder of federation, or all members are equal and there is no point in founding your own over joining existent one?

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>have big dick empire with several vassals
>allied with another big dick empire with several vassals
>Go to war with other big dick empire that has several vassals
>Expect a huge fucking galactic war
>EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. of my vassals and allies just have their fleet sitting on their home world while I do all the fucking work

I'm beginning to see why the purge play style is so popular

>>173509761
Particularly when you colonize a world that's suitable for one of your species and a billion pops with a completely different preference migrate there. Why are my arctic shellfish migrating to a desert world.

>>173509753
The big three non-me empires will have to be cut down a bunch more before I can do that.

>>173509928
>tfw my vassal helps me every time
>shows up at the planet I'm bombarding and chips in
>actually lands his troops before I do so they're the first wave on the ground

>>173509889

Winning conditions were a mistake. Situation log (F3) Victory conditions.

>>173510076
Sounds like he's stealing all the honour and glory from you.

Is it better to purge the alien or to enslave it?

>>173509928
There is the button in the upper line when you select a fleet, "take point", makes your allies follow your fleet (sometimes).

>>173510403

Enslave or integrate. Pops are resources themselves.

>defensive pact with two people
>get pulled into two wars
>we're the attackers
wtf

>>173510293
More like dying for space Israel

>>173510497
But what about muh roleplay

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While I'm not a big fan of the Unbidden, I can't deny that they're pretty effective against AI empires and do a good job of messing shit up.

They wiped out six or seven civilizations, including a Fallen Empire, before I took them out.

>>173509521
I've never read anywhere that changing the galaxy type changes the number of stars, are you sure that isn't just something you assumed?

>>173510678
>what is WW1
>what is WW2

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>>173509428
Trouble is, the timescales don't quite match. FEs are a few thousand years ahead of you, or researched all the tech then laid about and jerked off. The precursors predate you by hundreds of thousands, millions of years.

But then B5 made similar mistakes, and said the Sun would go nova in a million years.

Come to think of it, B5 migh have been in a Stellaris size galaxy, rather than one like a real one. Would explain how a handful of empires could talk of dividing it between one another.
A decent Centauri mod when?

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any way to change the max # of empires in a game? I want a tiny galaxy with a bunch of people so it's actually crowded.

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Would it be China or NKorea? How strong is it?

>>173510403
eat them

>>173511286

I would make trade deals with those.

>>173511286
Both are really authoritarian so neither really counts.

Closest comparison is Switzerland, though their motivation is cowardice and greed; what's your species?

It's okay.
Unity isn't as good as everything else you sacrifice with that build.

>>173507897
tall in stellaris is for turtles who don't know how to play the game properly. expand.

>>173511286
Why the pacifistic trait if you're xenophobe?

If you can't join an alliance and you don't plan on taking over others, how are you gonna survive for long?

>>173511885

They are actually quite strong from what I gather. I don't know how they do it, but they tend to dominate a respectable piece of the galaxy.

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What FTL method do you guys use? I've been doing Hyperlane only games since I can't understand where to bulid wormhole stations and how many to build. How does it work?

So what's the most OP trait / ethics choice now?

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>Expand fast as hell early game
>Largely ignore planning worlds, just build whatever the tile says to build.
>Become a giant blob, build up forces, invade, peace, build up forces, invade, peace, repeat
>Survive the end game event then stop playing because it would take IRL years to actually achieve the victory condition

This is how my last few games went. I'm getting a little bored. Is there any other way to play this that doesn't just result in you getting stomped by the AI?

>>173512053
I do hyperspace only as wormhole/warp games make war unfun.

>>173512053
Hyperlane only is objectively the best way to play. But when wormholes is my preffered method. Wormhole stations only cost 0.25 energy to maintain so theres no reason not to litter the cosmos with them.

Think of it less as wormholes and more that you are building your own hyper lanes

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I want to have a small empire with a massive amount of vassals. How do I create an empire that lets me demand vassalization? I don't want to estalish protectorates and wait hundreds of years for them to catch up in tech.

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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=683145075

>not playing as best girl

>>173512116

>magocracy

lool, he wants to roleplay South Korea.

>>173511248
I want a big galaxy with no-one in it so I can have all the events for myself.

>>173512053

Boring old Warp.

>>173511885
That's the schtick, those civics he has are both really strong unity boosters that you can only get with that combo of ethics.

The ethics aren't too bad of a combo, with the harmony tradition you become a pretty defensible blob, and happiness bonuses of pacifist boost you a bit taller.

>>173512053
Wormhole is by far the best and always has been.
A single tier one powerplant can power six wormhole generators. I think. Maybe even more.

Grab them on every system you have a planet for each of movement, beyond that it's up to you, whatever feels right is fine. The AI doesn't attack them often.

>>173512075
Traits really haven't changed much in the meta. I'd say slow breeders got even more viable with the changes to food though.
Authoritarian is really bad, easily the worst.
Xenophile doesn't really help you at all unless your game plan from day 1 is to get a federation up.

>>173506537

Just got Stellaris. What is best way to learn? The tutorial for other Paradox games selects your nation and what not for you, but Stellaris doesn't, which should I pick?

>Find ancient novel.
>Turns out it was written by the empire next door.
>>What do we do?
>>Keep it.
>>Return it.
>>The prose is pedestrian, let's return that filth.
>Contact the empire.
>>Will you give it back to us, pls, it's an important text in our culture that was thought lost, you see?
>>>No.
>>>(Sarcastic) No.
What was even the point of contacting them in the first place.

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>>173512116
>last game ended with a galaxywide war
>eastern alliance vs western alliance
>suddently unbidden come from the west and destroy western alliance
>they stop expanding because one fallen empire decides to rape them
>galaxy is in one big alliance now
>no idea what to do since everyone's happy

>>173512053
Wormhole is the most interesting.

Sub-light would be best, though. ~200 years to each star system. Ultimate marathon game.

>>173512397
>no idea what to do since everyone's happy
Time to start pissing everyone off.

>>173512337
Just to be a dick I guess

>>173512331
create your own faction and do the learning by doing approach. it works quite well in stellaris

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so what happens now?
neverending galactic war?

>>173512317

>Authoritarian is bad

Slaves at the start and through the rest of the game with the option of future integration.

>>173512331
There is a handholding tutorial option in general.

Avoid egalitarian and authoritarian because factions and slaves are kinda fucky if you don't know what you're doing.

Probably materialist to prop up your research which most people fuck up on most games, as they don't keep their research up with their population.

Early game minerals are your reason to live.
Middle game onwards Energy is your reason to live.

In general just play. It isn't too complicated.
Should look into making good ship designs, but if you can't be bothered make sure you at least avoid missiles(the techs, as the AI gives your ship the "best" stuff you have) because they're complete trash.

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2 spirals or 4 spirals to look more like the Milky Way? I know there are 4 spirals, but 2 of them seem that tere are two arms bigger than the rest.

>>173512705
>milky way
>real
LOL

>>173512631
Yeah I know, it's an okay boost. But I wouldn't go as them as anything other than fanatic spiritualist/authoritarian. Too many fucking problems with slaves and factions so the bonuses slaves get aren't worth it in the end.
At least that's what I've found.

>>173512705
4

>>173512705

>4 spirals.

I meant arms.

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>still no C# Aurora

>>173512705
What I want to know is how we were able to estimate the apparent shape and composition of the Milky Way, even though we're inside of it and have no way to view it from above like this.

>>173512705

What do you guys think about Earth's start? While I'm partial to starting near the edge of the galaxy, at least this way we might not get immediately dummied by the late game crisis. Also looks like we have a few potential arms to colonize.

>tfw we have an advanced neighbour

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>>173512895
by estimating the distance of certain stars and the density of gas/smaller stars in that region

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>>173512837
>post yfw C# Aurora finally hits

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Are there primitive Hiveminds?

I wish armies could play a bigger role in the game

>TFW no 'orbital shield' attachment for you space stations that takes up 4 slots but makes it immune to damage from fleets and requires invasion forces to take.
>TFW no weaponless boarding ships that send out pods of marines to take out enemy vessels and give you bonus to salvaging numbers since you didn't fully blow it up
>TFW no option to have two generals duel in order to settle disputes or curry massive amounts of war score.
>TFW when no additional unity or whatever for having tons of armies stationed on a planet.

>>173513129
ants

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Who else plays the X series? I have X3 reunion, X3 Terran conflict and I think its called X4 (on steam).
I've only played X3 Reunion and, once I finally figured out how to do anything, I had a great time playing non-stop for weeks.
The openness of the game is its triumph and downfall. Its great to build your own empire, trade routes, patrols, etc, but at the same time if you don't have your own initiative its easy to drown in its depth. Its the sandbox thing.

Playing as a pirate was fun, smashing haulers for loot and captures; but once you realise you can't actually sell most of it due to low cargo or reputation, it kinda became boring.

Thats probably my main problem with the game. Starting from anywhere but the hardest, least capital point feels like cheating, but saving the money for decent fittings, haulers and factory systems takes a long time during which you're mainly drifting through space looking for lost loot and an easy fight/capture.

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>>173513086
>w C# Aurora finally hits

>>173513129
You havent played starcraft 2 have you?

Did they fuck with starting techs? Orbital hydroponics is usually one of the first things I get but I haven't even seen it and I'm 50 years in.

Is there any reason whatsoever to use the chemical bliss living standard since it cripples yields.

>>173513148
>'orbital shield' attachment for you space stations that takes up 4 slots
requires invasion forces to take
If it's on the ground, then why does it require slots? Don't get me wrong, I love the idea, but it should be a building on the planet.

>>173513293
>orbital hydroponics

>>173513394
What

>>173513368
Its for the station not the planet.

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>An anomaly has been detected, we should check it out
>It's the fourth anomaly behind these guys who won't let anyone in at all even if they're friendly to them
>Fanatic Pacifist playthrough

I think after this I'll go play a Hivemind and wreck everything without having to worry about things again

Where do you guys build megastructures? Does it matter?

>>173512337
To tell them they suck

>>173513034

>"we"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgtfVZwEI6M

>>173513258

There's no Starcraft 2?

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>>173513582
Sorry, I guess I understood that wrong, I thought it would be like the shieldgenerator on endor.

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>>173513058
catalogue objects from spess engin

>>173513641

Dyson Spheres and Ringworlds can only be build on systems where there are no habitable planets. The rest doesn't matter.

>>173513906
They can be built in systems with planets, dyson sphere turns them all to frozen

>Hiveminds dont even have to deal with this bullshit

Is there literally any down side to playing a hivemind?

>Devs say hiveminds have to take intelligent because having no happiness means the bonus pops get from being happy is lost

I'd love to know how the fuck they are playing the game that they ever have fucking happy pops

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>>173513148

Planets and armies should have anti-orbital weapons too. Also I think there should be a planetary assault corvette or something. I don't like how you send armies without escort ships.

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I'm considering just absorbing every race and giving them full citzenship since no one is ever happy anyway

>>173514176

>Is there literally any down side to playing a hivemind?

It's very boring. They also exterminate non-hivemind pops. You can use gene mod to turn other species into hivemind, but you have to research the tech.

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this is my alliance post war, unbidden got shredded by the awakened empire which means that there's no tension left in the galaxy other than the other alliance, which we just fucking steamrolled
gg but pls no re

>>173506537
You missed
>Civilization modding
- Wiki for Civ modding http://modiki.civfanatics.com/index.php/Main_Page
- Civ V mod workshop http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse?appid=8930
- Civ V mods http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=393
- More mods http://pastebin.com/5ANRmRur (embed)

>Alpha Centauri (SMAC & SMAX) resources
- Essential improvements http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Sid_Meier's_Alpha_Centauri#Essential_improvements
- Official short stories https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cn11q7nqa00te/Alpha_Centauri

Add them to the OP next time.

Had unbidden spawn and I killed them, thought that there are no more endgame memes, so I went AI. Now my robots were building a ship, am I fucked?

>>173514176
I'd love to know how you do if you don't. There are tons of ways to get planetwide happiness, lots of cheap buildings for that, increasing most factions happiness isn't that hard either, supress/promote/embrace what you see fit. With utopia you can even increase species living standards which doesn't cost a lot and sometimes pays for itself even and gives huge happiness boost.

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>>173514402
the alliance I was talking about

>>173514524
>am I fucked?
Depends. Check if you have a dick in your ass or not.

>>173514578
hi reddo

>>173514524
Nah that sounds like normal pop autonomy. Paradox isn't good enough to do anything subtle, AI rebellion is just blaring in your face like the unbidden. They're easier than the unbidden as well.

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>>173514578
Wont lie, screencapped that shit.

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>>173513086

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What are the best civics/traits for a scary hivemind controlled by the AI?

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>>173512837
>tfw Steve is listening to morons on the forums anyway.

>>173512053
Wormhole is easy and not only are you dumb but shockingly averse to taking basic "risks" (if they can even be called that) in a fucking videogame. Nut up, faggot.

>>173514660
You should lie in the future.

>>173514524

Unless it has changed, there's only one crisis per game, not counting War in Heaven.

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>>173514574
>>173514402
this is the stats
only thing above me in strength is the awakened empire I am in an alliance with
time to wait until the mods update and then try a psionic empire

>>173514780
War in heaven is cancelled, I ate all fallen empires.

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>>173514663

friends

steam unclear, what edition of stellaris should I buy?

I want as much DLC as possible? is season pass or complete edition available or must I buy all DLC on own?

>>173512331
I'd recommend you pick Industrious trait for your first species! It really helps boost that much needed mineral production!

>tfw starting system has only 2 minerals

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What is the quickest way to vassalizing another empire?

>>173515530
war

>>173515530
like in one piece?

>>173514574

Just to be sure. Can federations now actually "meld" together?

>no natural spiral mod updated for banks

fugggg

>>173515803
Nope

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So the Republic of Alaria needs your help.
How in the fuck do I fight this?

>Get 1k minerals and 500 energy per month
>Own half the galaxy, 1k naval capacity without even trying
>Can't speed up megastructure construction speed, decades for a single ringworld

What the fuck is even the point of those? I wanted to build tall, got wide instead by accident. Only unlocked mega-engineering around unbidden invasion, kicked their asses, won the game, now looking at this screensaver till it finishes my structures, then looks like gonna turn this game off for another year or so. You gotta have more ways to interact with other empires and better map generation so that artificial habitats have any point, you also need to be able to get them a bit earlier than around the victory screen. As of now there is literally no point in aiming that high even if you can't expand for some reason, you better find a way to expand than wait centuries and pray to rng that you roll required techs. That is if a blobbing ai won't just roll you and your fancy playstyle. Because there is literally nothing stopping them from that.

>>173516043
corvettes

>>173516043
Make 100k fleet

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>>173514293
>dropzone/fleet commander

UCM a best

>>173516401
But I lost my old 50k fleet destroying their 60k fleet, I am not made of fleets unfortunately.
Is there anything I can do to help make them white peace?

>>173513148
>no giant ass canon you build on planets that can a giant laser of mass destruction towards another planet

What happens if I sectorize a bunch of extremely unhappy recently conquered people.

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How the fuck do I make my empire massive and strong?

>>173512705
I like how Endless space had a lot more galaxy shapes to choose from.

>>173516554
ignore their fleet and go attak their planets with inasions

>set fleet on evasive
>engages enemy fleets
what is this bullshit

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>>173515770
Yeah. When I tried annexing a place then vassalizing them, they get a small blip of their old territory. I don't want to take their territory, I want them to serve me.

>>173516723
you clicked again and made them aggressive

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So basically I had to choose between purging my whole home planet or let the virus spread to my two other planets. The problem was that my homeplanet was almost a fully populated 20-tiles and my other two where 2 newly colonized 15-tiles. Needless to say, I had to embrace it and now my cute woodland creature species have gone and been replaced by some, peculiar testicular looking tumour growths.........

>>173516782
fucking crystal stacks went for me when I warped in but rather than retreating it fucking decided to engage them

>>173516825
I'd probably restart if that happened to me desu

Do crystals rely mostly on shields or armor?

>>173516825
Wait what, there are epidemics now in this game ??

Warp > Hyperdrive >>>>>>>> Wormholes

>>173516662
Play the game like its starcraft.

Not even kidding.

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>>173517083

>>173516825
the event horizon messenger virus?

>>173517083
Hyperdrive only is far more fun. With the other ftl drives it is too easy to defeat the ai by dropping your fleet in their home system.

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>can invite an awakened empire to a federation
Is this working as intended? Seems kind of... broken.

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>>173516043
superior numbers while grabbing some of their planets

>>173517401
That exact one!

So how does research works exactly? The more planets I have the slower it gets? And what to do with all the golden rocketry shit that just doesn't disappear? Anything particular to rush for / leave out?

>>173517439
should have executed the scientist

>>173517415
is there a crisis going on?
for me the unbidden post in the situation log won't disappear so I think that's slightly bugged

>>173517584
I'm guessing it's a bug then, because I took out the Unbidden a while ago but they're still in the situation log.

>>173517584
>>173517778
In six or eight games I've played, I've never had a crisis disappear from my situation logs. Is it even supposed to?

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>>173517000
Aside from being discernibly unsightly to look at, the seem to have gained the "Intelligent"-trait.
>>173517076
I don't know if that's because of the latest patch or Utopia or if it always has been in the game. I've never had to deal with that before now anyway...

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Just got 1.5 loaded, is Army Damage still absolutely useless?

>tfw want strong on my species for fluff

How fucking long does it take to displace pops Jesus

I just want this xeno filth the fuck out of my empire and for some reason I can't just genocide them

How much fleet power do I need to kill the leviathans?

>>173518010
Nah you can kinda stack it and cheese invade without bombardment.
More minerals is okay.
In general though strong is mediocre yeah.

>>173518079
like 100 years for a full planet, shit sucks.
Though it might go quicker if you've discovered more nations that accept refugees.

>>173518130
20-50k range depending on how meta your builds are

>>173517486
depends on how you want to play the game senpai

>>173517943
Does it still show your founder species somewhere?

What's the best authority?

>>173518383
As of Utopia, your government type is quite literally irrelevant

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>>173517517
Well I naively allowed them to do everything. In the end my admiral's future self had spawn from the depths of the black hole begging me to kill him. I sent his younger self to do the job and he gained this trait after I won the final battel. Nothing personnel!

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>>173518370
He's the last of his kind. You can actually see that one of these abomitaions is waiting to inherit his crown after his death.

>>173516723
Engage happens as soon as 2 opposing fleets are within distant range of each other, if you jump into the system and some enemies are near the point of your exit - it won't matter what setting you use.

>>173513480
Not him but I don't think its very useful anymore with food being global.

>>173518417
Well what are good ethics?

I JUST WANT SUPPORT AND AUXILIARY SHIPS
BETTER WEAPON TECH OTHER THAN "GENERAL ENERGY, EXPLOSIVE AND KINETIC VERSION 1 & 2" WOULD BE SWELL AS WELL

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>tfw you can't decide what ethic/civics to play
I just don't want any xeno scum in my empire.

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>>173517517
Oops, that last screenshot didn't actually show what his trait does.

>>173518897
fanatical purifier is the only way to go

>>173518897
Fanatical Purifier

>>173518417
not true, because pacifist and xenophobe
>>173518812
agrarian idyll and inwards perfection

So is there a way to generate a map where building tall would be viable because no one has enough space to expand beyond reason (and without any repercussions) and start snowballing? Not sure if setting smallest star count and largest empire count gonna do the trick.

>tfw you need fanatic xenophobe & militarist to be crazy racist
>tfw you need fanatic spiritualist & authoritarian to be spanish inquisition in spehs
>tfw you can't be both at the same time

>>173519069
Set habitable worlds to 0.5x.

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Does anyone beside me bother naming their every leader?

Is it better to corvette spam with the absolute cheapest trash possible or to pimp your corvettes out so you need less of them?

>>173519370
Only on Venerable games.

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>>173506871
Let them come home....what's the worst that could happen?

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>>173506537
I held off on playing this because /v/ said it was shit but I needed a modern sci-fi 4x that focused on colonizing a single alien planet and this seemed like the only thing that fit the bill.

But holy shit, even with the expansion it's just bad. Well worse than bad, it's BORING. Seriously, how do you make a game about competing to colonize an alien world BORING??

The aliens barely attack and are basically destructible terrain obstacles by the mid-game and the other factions don't even try to expand into your territory enough to get aggressive.

This is literally NOTHING HAPPENS: THE GAME. Seriously, who at Firaxis thought this was a good idea? It could've been such an awesome game IF THINGS ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

>>173518897
Authoritarian is pretty good, you can displace aliens without having to kill them.

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Fuck organics, we synths now.

>>173507828
What ship mod is that?

>Pacifist + Inward Perfection
Is playing Fanatic "FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL" a viable strategy? +70% Unity, and maybe even the farm unity one, seem like it would be neato.

>>173519636
what's your pop?
how do you deal with the spike in power consumption?

>>173519492
Only to puns and in online games

>>173519685
It's really good but as you can imagine, a bit boring sitting in the corner hiding.

i wish i had the comp to play this game it looks so fun

>>173519593
>Seriously, how do you make a game about competing to colonize an alien world BORING??

I got so hyped because I loved this core idea so much, and the artwork and writing seemed really engaging.

But as you say, there's very little feeling of being a pioneer on an alien world in the actual game and it just becomes a chore.

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>>173519636
>committing collective suicide

>>173520145
If you're talking about Stellaris, the min reqs are not that high.
MINIMUM:
OS: Windows 7 x86 or newer
Processor: AMD Athlon II X4 640 @ 3.0 Ghz / or Intel Core 2 Quad 9400 @ 2.66 Ghz
Memory: 2 GB RAM
Graphics: AMD HD 5770 / or Nvidia GTX 460, with 1024MB VRAM. Latest available WHQL drivers from both manufacturers.
DirectX: Version 9.0c
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 4 GB available space
Sound Card: Direct X 9.0c- compatible sound card
Additional Notes: Controller support: 3-button mouse, keyboard and speakers. Special multiplayer requirements: Internet Connection or LAN for multiplayer.

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Is this a good build for learning the game?

>>173519593
>space muzzies with hijabs
disgusting

>conquer a couple of planets from the space oxen next door
>on one, they have 3 primitive pops they're purging
>decide to uplift them
>actually forget to research the quest, 1 pop dies
>do the quest again, research it, save the 2 pops
>I am a materialistic science directorate
>they become spiritual because I let them worship us for uplifting them
>give them more rights than to the oxen that ruled them before
The only bad is I am materialistic, xenophobe and egaliterian, so I can't have the oxen as slaves while the uplifted apes are free residents.

I edited the empire to fan materialistic and xenophobe for future games, but is there any way to manage to change an empire from egalitarian to a state that would allow slaves, in game?

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>>173519593
Arshia a cute. CUTE!

Anyone have a link for 1.5.1?

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>>173519620
I didn't notice this change. This was pretty much the reason I liked playing Xenophobe empires in 1.4.

Paradox is doing good this xpac.

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Is there a leader-specific trait in Stellaris that I can add to my ruler and only my ruler to make him immortal, whether it be via mods or console commands (preferably the latter)?

>>173520374
most of my day to day laptop experience is on my mac with is old and cant support modern games
I have a newer pc with better graphics but less ram that may work but i dont remeber the specs off the top of my head

>>173520448
>fanatic pacifist
No, try to be neutral, as pacifists you cannot start an offensive war.

>>173520374
>minimum
Might was well be recommended as well seeing as stellaris can't even make use of multiple cores or more than 2gb of ram

>>173520735
>this meme
But it's wrong.

I found the Cybrex homeworld and nothing happened. I could survey everything but other than that the mission is still open.

Played a game with Xenophobe/Pacifist/Egalitarian race and tried going "tall" until the Unbidden spawned right next to me and the Awakened FE I'm allied with is too stupid to move its ships anywhere forcing me to do nothing but defend (Unbidden have 4x my fleet), so I've been in a stalemate for hours and probably planning to start a new game. Explored the entire universe, got all Traditions and beat the super monsters / researched pretty much everything already so it's not like there's anything new to do even if I did survive.

Up until that point however I had literally zero wars or any sort of external issues to sort through to the point I could ignore the rest of the galaxy altogether up until the Unbidden arrived, so I'm considering ramping up the difficulty. What are the optimal galaxy starting settings? How much does the AI cheat on higher difficulties?

Also, which one of these is the most fun to play if I want new unique content?
>Militant Spiritualists
>Hivemind
>Fanatic Purifiers

>>173520448
Ditch pacifist as they can't declare proper wars, unless you want to do nothing but twiddle your thumbs around forever after the initial expansion phase is over. Seriously, picking pacifist is nothing but watching numbers go up even with Utopia's "tall" additions that only unlock much later in the game.

>>173520678
A quick google found this http://stellarismods.com/immortal-leaders-trait-mod/

>>173520145
I got the new quadcore cpu, it still grinds to a halt past 150-200 years (well not halt, but "fastest" speed becomes something around gamestart "fast" or even slower, and everything isn't smooth anymore, micropauses everywhere), you can finish the game around that date though, it's not worth it trust me, it's basically ck2 but without all the fun parts, you better get into it or eu or vic or something, stellaris will last you a couple days till you see everything it has to offer and it doesn't offer much, whole game boils down to navy spam past early. You have multiple years to get money for your pc before they have a chance to turn this game into something worthwhile with god knows how many dlcs.

>>173520895
>racial trait
>applies to all leaders
Sorry senpai, I want it to be a leader trait, not a species trait, and I plan to only use it for my ruler, not anyone else.

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>>173520257
It's not suicide because there are no such things as souls. Continuity of consciousness is a meme. Anything with the same neural patterns as you is you.

>>173520868
Events are getting bugged often. You didn't miss much, don't remember exact reward but unless your game just started and you somehow managed to complete the whole chain they don't matter, some research point and unity or something like that.

>>173520678
Hive Mind leader is immortal

>make humans
>imperial
>first emperor is white
>his daughter is 100% sub saharan african
>her daughter is 100% asian
>they are space nazis

wow this game is so fucking good

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>>173520552
>Woman is leader for space muslims

Can't get more sci-fi than this!

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>>173521101
But humans aren't a hive mind, anon.

>>173521089
Well shit, I guess I'll just deal with having it sat open. I was hoping for the achievement too.

>>173520708
>>173520893
What ethic should should I go for instead of pacifist then? and i'll need a corresponding civic

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>>173521142
>it's already been a year since this meme
Just install the mod idiot. You can find several with Euro, Roman, American, other white country-only names.

>>173520678
I got "chosen one" from the shroud for my governor, but I think event chance is pretty low, and you won't get to shroud for a while anyway. It makes you immortal and gives you some empire-wide bonuses if you're in command, like -unrest and the like. I think you should be able to add it through console, because why not.

>>173520665
Anyone has this ?

>>173520678
Go to steam workshop, search 'immortal' and chance the criterion to 'most popular today'. First result.

Then hang your head in shame for being such a lazy cunt and needing spoonfeeding for something so trivially easy to find in the first place.

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>>173521028
Soulless wretches, once you finalize damning your entire population, we will swoop in to clean the travesty you've left behind you off the face of the galaxy.

>>173521007
>dismiss scientists and admirals after a logical period of time and hire new ones

>>173520830
I've never seen it use more than 1.5gb of ram

>>173519672
Halo, the mod's called "Sins of the Prophets"

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>>173521028
>implying you aren't a new you every time you wake up

>>173521142
>paradicks refuses to let you choose the appearance or name of your heir

Reminds me of Tropico 5 which kept shitting out daughters for me. Developers who are cucks will eventually be replaced when their cuckishness becomes overbearing.

In pairofkikes case though I'm guessing they'll eventually sell "choose the appearance of your next ruler!" as a feature in a DLC because they are some of the most shameless motherfuckers ever when it comes to DLC.

>>173521275
>"European," of course, means "white"
What does African mean to them

>>173520868
That means someone else stole your anomalies

>>173520678
There isn't, but this mod lets you do that:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=683145075

plus you can RP by making the ruler fight on the battlefield, so if your admiral dies your ruler also dies.

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r8/h8

>>173521148
Arabs actually have quite a few significant queens who ruled in their own right in their history. Al Falah is a secular 'state' too.

>>173521580
Black.

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>>173521620
>Pacfist

For what purpose.

>>173519593
The point of the game is diversity, goy. Who cares about gameplay?

>>173521028
So you're saying I could create an entire society of me?

>>173521585
Thats really stupid, they shouldn't even be able to see the system.

Probably explains it though, it spawned at the bottom of an empire I was at war with, I sent a science ship as soon as I saw it and I didn't see anything else in there but I guess they grabbed it and left.

>>173521545
> Developers who are cucks will eventually be replaced when their cuckishness becomes overbearing.

>literally just patched in special game mechanics for KILL ALL ALIENS NO DIVERSITY Mode
>half the game caters to and supports deporting, enslaving, or purging ayys

>thinks the decision made for one race out of a hundred is indicative of cuckiness

>>>/pol/

>>173521028
then why can people die?

>>173521482
Thanks mate, looks pretty cool, I hate the default mammalian ship designs.

>>173519762
Main pop is Intelligent + Conservationist. I ended up getting too multikulti, and now my founder species is only like 20% of my empire's population now.

>how do you deal with the spike in power consumption?
The maintenance cost is negligible. Even if it were an issue, there are always Dyson Spheres, or more practically, lots of habitats with nothing but solar panel networks.

>>173520678
>all those replies about mods when there's already trait for that in the game

Why the fuck bloat your game with this useless bullshit? Use fucking standard functions don't be stupid, fags.

>>173521661
Name them then, apologist retard. Muslims do not have queens, but go ahead and name these "queens".

>inb4 something retarded like "this ottoman sultan was a bitchnigger who did whatever his favorite concubine told him to so that technically makes her the ruler!"

>>173521746
it says right in the description mate

Do you guys start a new game when the rest of the galaxy is "inferior" to you?

>>173521798
The only problem with the mod is the fact that every ship has "UNSC" plastered on the side which can be weird if your species has nothing to do with Halo or the United Nations.

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>>173521409
You spiritualist cucks will rue the day you crossed us superior synthetic lifeforms, reeeee

>>173521852
>when there's already trait for that in the game
Like what?

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>playing religious imperium game
>start thinking about building robots as a technocracy
>quit
>play technocracy and build robots
>start thinking about a classic terran federation and civilising the galaxy
>quit
>play a terran federation and spread humanity to the stars
>start thinking about the religious empire again, uplifting mankind to psychic powers
>fucking quit again and go play that
I am never going to get anywhere is this game. I don't think I've even legitimately reached mid-game, yet. The biggest empire I've got going at the moment is 8 planets.

Can't make up my damn mind.

>>173520552
>implying suchou isn't waifu material

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>>173521952
Sorry, I don't speak "bleep bloop" robot nonsense.

>>173521257
If you still want to be a "good guy" or diplomatic akin to pacifists then Xenophile makes your people like aliens and them like you in turn. This means giving citizenship to aliens you happen to conquer, while independent alien empires also like you more provided they aren't the opposite Xenophobes. If not that then Materialist is a great general ethic as improved research speed never hurts.

Can't remember civics off the top of my head though.

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>tfw beam weapons

>>173521746
Kek, I like em

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>>173522241
Alright how about this?

Any recommendations on where to pirate the new dlc?

>>173522210
>rei
But she basically acts like a robot anyway

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>>173521620
Future Livestock/10


Anyone else notice that they've changed the default Evil White Space Nazis leader to be blonde now? Just in case anyone had any doubts about what they were supposed to be.

>>173521746
>antifa

habitats should be available as first pick ascension and should be a space port module that you can pick multiple times desu

>>173522000
"Chosen One", you get it from the shroud random event, I'm sure there's gotta be a console command to add traits seeing how there's so many of those. My democracy haven't elected another leader since he got it, if you got another government then there obviously won't even be a possibility to not have him as a leader.

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>>173521287
>>173521852
So there is a built-in trait modifier that gives a specific leader immortality? Good to know, now I just need to figure out the proper coding so I can add it via console commands.
So can I just type into the command console something like "add_trait_leader 1 leader_trait_chosen_one"? Or is there not a way to do that and I have to trigger the event instead?

(I tried "add_trait_leader 1 leader_trait_chosen_one", I also tried "trait_chosen_one" "ruler_trait_chosen_one", and so on, it doesn't work, but maybe the code has a different name for the "Chosen One" trait, so I'll keep looking)

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>>173521904
Not him, but checked (((wikipedia)))

>>173522557
You have to google it dude. I've used a bunch of console commands in the end game to see stuff I have missed but haven't messed with traits since I'm not interested in those.

>>173522784
I've been googling it. The Stellaris Wiki hasn't updated with the proper information. I've even been scouring the game code myself for clues.

WHY CAN'T I DEPLOY MY AIRCRAFT OVER ENEMY TERRITORY? WTF

>>173521746
so, they're krogans?

>>173521545

>Tropico

Pls don't tell me you take that game serious from any roleplaying/political standpoint lool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7Kolu09A5U

what would be the best ethics for an assadist empire?

>>173522712
Fourth of them predate Islam though.

>>173522784
>>173522557
it's in utopia_shroud_events
>has_country_flag = shroud_vision_10
>any_owned_leader = {
>has_trait = leader_trait_admiral_chosen >has_trait = leader_trait_general_chosen
>has_trait = leader_trait_governor_chosen
>has_trait = leader_trait_ruler_chosen
>has_trait = leader_trait_scientist_chosen

>>173523141
>As female sovereign, Arwa al-Sulayhi has an almost unique position in history: though there were more female monarchs in the international Muslim world, Arwa al-Sulayhi and Asma bint Shihab were the only female monarchs in the Muslim Arab world to have had the khutba proclaimed in their name in the mosques as sovereigns.

As far as Islam is concerned there are only two (technically, one who ruled on her own) and they're Shi'a infidel scum.

For a faction that can control time, the riftborn play pretty boring.

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>>173523175
Thank you, based anon.

>>173523276
Shi'ites had some very big empires in the past, they're "infidels" only by modern standards since they don't do shit but blow themselves up nowadays.

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>defence stations can be given afterburners

>>173521793

You can fucking eat them as cattle lol! It transcends /pol/'s edgyness. They got shit on Paradox now.

Can someone explain why I would ever want to build a dyson sphere?

>>173523727

WHY DO I HAVE TO RESPECT THE BORDERS OF SHITTY LOW TECH EMPIRES IN FUCKING S P A C E WHY CANT I JUST JUMP THROUGH THEIR FUCKING SYSTEMS THEIR ALL PRIMITIVE RETARDS THEY CANT STOP ME I DONT CARE IF THEY HATE ME I CANT BE FUCKING BOTHERED TO TRANSPORT MICRO THEM INTO TRIBUTARIES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>173523727
because late game is boring

>>173523571
>Adaptive leaders can level up to become stubborn

>>173523803
Just conquer them senpai

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>>173523276

>>173521793
I haven't played as a literallyhitler empire but seeing all those opinion happiness etc penalties you get for being an edgy faglord I don't think the game "caters" to them, more like "allows if you really want to". I got multiculti all-happy state without even trying and I'm sure I would have a lot of pain the ass playing the other way and trying to deal with all this slave-purge bullshit.

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>>173506537
>Can magically and instantly teleport out of a system if you are a losing a fight
>If a sudden border closure locks your ships within a couple of systems, you have to start a war to get the ships out

hmm.....Stelarristards?

>>173523803
Just be nice to them and they will open borders you goof

>>173523727
In the right place its kind of easy to defend I guess so less needing to worry about temporary retreats in a war.

>>173524082
>dude just be nice lol

THEY ALL HAVE -700 OPINION OF ME BECAUSE MY DICK IS TOO THREATENING

Is it better to terraform, or to start with Very Adaptive, take two ranks in Diplomacy for the +10% Habitability, and use tech to settle everywhere?

>>173524035
There's an out of combat retreat button that you can use to return to your territory, no matter where you are. It's not well marked though

>>173524032
If you build your Empire and species so that they're ok with genocide and slavery they end up actually being a positive. Sure empires without those things won't like you for it but its not exactly something to complain about.

>>173524174
>-700
You're clearly a war mongering genociding fuck. Just war them

>>173523727
Well it looks kinda cool I guess?
You have no reason to build most of the megastructures honestly, maybe ringworlds if you're really stranded for planets and have a FUCKLOAD of minerals to blow and years to wait till it starts paying off, habitats are kinda ok though but only somewhat useful for science and energy. Sensor array seems good if you haven't yet established total domination by the time you get it (for me that's hard to imagine).

Is Syncretic evolution worth it for the free thrall race?

>>173524032

Thats because a lot of faggots don't know what armies, political propaganda, mind control laser, commissaires, policy compromise, greater good tradition, consumer goods or governor skill levels are.

They just conquer new pops, pretend nothing happened and no fucks are given. Then they get surprised when they revolt lol.

>>173524289
>You're clearly a war mongering genociding fuck
Im sort of warlike but I have never genocided and most wars ive thought in are defensive, I literally get minus hundreds of opinion purely from something called 'threat' I assume because my fleet power is close to 1m.

>Just war them
My point is that its bad game design that I have to, it makes no sense that I can't just jump my ships through if I want to for a big opinion hit from them and anyone else law abiding in the galaxy.

I forgot, can hive minds dick around with the Shroud or are they blocked off from that?

>>173524558

>along with symbol of unity, arena, pleasure dome, reeducation campaigns, information quarantine and social security edicts

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Fanatic Purifiers or Psionic Ascension? Which is more fun to play? I heard Hive Minds and Machine Ascension are kind of shit, and I already played Biological game and it was pretty meh since it's something you do once and then forget about it altogether.

>>173524587
Hive Minds only get Biological as far as I recall.

>Start game
>Want to expand
>Plenty of people to invade but there is no point in doing so
>If I cede their world, its a total loss because they are a different ethos. So even after their revolt period ends, they forever do damage to my people by simply existing.
>I can purge their world if I want to. But what is the fucking point of invading if I don't claim any new territory?

A lot of problems with this game would be solved if there was just one world type

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>run a stellar empire
>give people residency status
>not allowed to move around in my empire if I don't allow it
>LOL but we can leave to other empires anyway enjoy your empty planets
Great job paradox