/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

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>there are fanatic purifers in this general RIGHT NOW

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What's the most interesting roleplay/player made empire you could think of?

>>173546658
reminder that the only way to secure your species' existence is to prevent their enemys, or potential enemies from every having even a slim chance at beating them down. genocide, whether you like it or not, is sanest move to do.

New endless legend dlc when? I love the artstyle and want to see more interesting factions

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>>173546802
>there AREN'T fanatic purifiers in this general right now

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I'M SO SORRY GASBROS,

>>173546658
How do you manage to get all the ressources in the OP? When I try, 4chan blocks me on the account that the post is too large.

Re asking, is the Fallen and Awoken Empire damage perk worth getting?

nth for steam workshop not working

>>173546981
Terrible

>>173546652
>be jap in usa
>government passes laws restricting interracial marriage and immigration, clearly they don't want you here
>government later puts you in camp
>70 years later still bitch about it because apparently you decided to push your luck now that no one is actively trying to remove you
>apparently fucking off seemed like too much of a hassle

Smart.

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>>173545474
>like Age of Wonders The first one was the best
Good taste

>>173546949
You mean
>There is someone who ISN'T a fanatical purifier ITT


>fanatical purifier
>not needing an uplift

>>173546981
I'm so fucking tired of seeing theses guys
I just put them in the dumpster every time

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>>173546802
>he isn't purifying the galaxy RIGHT NOW

>>173546658
Can you lower the ai number to zero and play as a precursor race in stellaris? Waiting or uplifting natives as you go?

Man, OP post reminds me of how well EL handled the whole hivemind trope. Wish the ones in Stellaris were half as interesting as Necrophages.

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>>173547105
>You mean
I mean what I said. Your inferior xenos translator is malfunctioning. Worry not, you will be purged.

>>173546658
Nobody was morally sound in the period for sure. My only commentary is that the "alliance" was one of convenience only. And there was no stopping Stalin's boys even if we tried.
(Not murican btw).

>>173546110
To have fun, about 4:1.5:1:0.2 or something.

>>173547030
I have 4chan X, which might be how it is displayed, but I think it is by default anyway. In the reply window it'll warn you if you're over characters(2000) limit when you get past 1000 it'll count it for you.

Did you try adding edition nonsense? Because the size of the op was like 1966/2000 or something. So you literally might have edited it to 2023 or something and it'd be too large.

>>173547198
I've seen screenshots, might be modded though. Certainly possible.

To be meta: 4:1:1:0

Did anyone ever make any EU4 MEIOU/Veritas-esque mods for Stellaris?

>>173547290
>Did you try adding edition nonsense?
No, but copying and pasting all the OP may add spaces.

question about stellaris

does tag-switching to the AI fuck it up or does it work like in other paradox games where the AI can handle it just fine?

I decided to just tag switch to everyone else and give them about 10 to 20 years worth of research and a full store of minerals/energy and see if that helps things along but I'm not sure if the AI can handle that sort of thing

>>173547290
WHOOPS

meant to reply to
>>173546652

>>173547232
Poor leader. Freezing to death in a blasted hellhole, contemplating his solitary existence amongst a race engineered to end all other races, a race his efforts almost singlehandedly saved from the death of a planet to spite a universe that would dare to make such a weapon.

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>negroids in MY game

>>173547503
>not downloading a mod to fix that

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Time to see how tall is too tall. Going to limit myself to only the starting number of core systems, no sectors, and bee-line for megastructures and terraforming. Might also try testing some of the EoC work-arounds discussed a few threads back.

Anyone else a little butthurt that there isn't a 'humanoid' city and/or ship style?

Also another thing; if somebody was to make a mod that added in new portraits, cities, or even ship models, would it be possible for the AI to use them at all or would they just use their normal classes? (Ie; mammal races using mammal ships and mammal cities?) I'm guess that's how it works unless it's a custom race that uses whatever you assign when you make it and spawn it into the game.

>>173547490
There is something magical about EL's writing. You can really feel the resignation as the leader realises the scientist is regressing to base Necrophage instincts and becoming a mindless killing machine like everyone else.

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Not the easiest naming convention to work with honestly.

>>173547671
try to jump a science ship to every singularity in the game to try and trigger the horizon signal event
what it does to your capitol system is fantastic for a "tall" playthrough

>>173547823
>2500
>only 500 research on average

how?

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>>173547863
>le tricky worm prank

Did they patch the thing where you can reroll leaders every election? I used to use that to roll for geniuses, but it doesn't seem to work anymore.

>>173548008
Why would you need research in the year 2567?

>>173548175
there's always some repeatable tech

>>173548227
But it doesn't matter.

>>173548008
Being technologically superior didn't save my neighbors from becoming slaves to their Psionic masters.

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I sure love slavery, get 2-3 planets like that and youre set.

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>>173546881
>mfw you are absorbed by urethra penetration dick sucking birdplants

Just found up the guy that wrote thermal expansion for minecraft has done a bunch of mods for stellaris. Time to rev up that autism

>music doesn't change in war times
What were they thinking?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHQrcyerVQQ
Post space battle music.

>>173548313
thinking about creating a slaving empire too, show me your empire please.

>>173548478
What do you want to see fampai?

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>>173547671
>this spawn
oh baby

>>173547671
3 might be too few depending on random shit.
I've had success as a tall nation with 6-8.

>>173547690
Should be possible. Try and find a mod that advertises randomly generated [mod race] nations. If they exist. If they do then just reverse-engineer that.

>>173547782
It's balance or lack thereof is really thematic as well.

>cultists with minor faction armies
>necrophages with colossal hives and an army with 50 units in it
>broken lords struggling earlygame to do everything that costs dust with what little they have, going to making quadruple the winning condition worth of dust in a turn

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?

playing a hivemind empire, just finished the bio-ascension and expanding hard assimilating everything in my path

and somehow most of the galaxy doesn't particularly have a problem with what I'm doing.
You'd think at least some folks would object to forcefully annihilating billions of consciousnesses just so I can use them as flesh puppets but everyone is a-ok as long as I aint eating them.

>all these people posting races without a biography
Write something there. Aything will do.

>>173548594
Starting core sectors is 5 with pacifist

>>173548646
>not using the LoversLab space elves

>>173548646
As authoritarian(or anyone really), the anti-migratory racial trait is also a free trait point like repugnant, if you want a bit better racial stuff.

>>173548543
your goverment type

>>173548781
Ah right.

>cant pick Communal trait as a hive mind
>even though it's literally perfect for it

Why

>>173548646
you say elves but the various traits and civics make me think of dwarves.

>>173548819
eh there are combos that allow you to get the resettlement cost down to such low numbers you can basically spam it

it helps a lot midgame letting you just yoink a pop from each of your mature planets and shove them into your new colony/annexation and then letting all those pops grow at the same time

>everyone says Authoritarian is bad
If you don't have Authoritarian then;
>Can't deport anyone
>Can't purge
>Can't get slavery and their nice production bonuses
>Harder to stop unrest
>Can't do half the fun shit of the new racial system like having entire races for ayysex slaves or culling them to make alien steaks out of

>>173549060
Refers to friendly co-habitation resulting in happiness for some reason. Rather than faceless drones working as one.

>>173547671
I cant decide what tradition to start with, normally I'd go either expansion or discovery, but with a tall civ the former will be less valuable, and the wormhole travel makes the latter harder to abuse.

>>173549060
because it literally does nothing
also, communal is about various separate entities being a close-knit community (hence the word), in a hivemind however there is only 1 entity: the hivemind and even autonomous drones are more akin to controlled split personalities rather than individuals.

So Consumer Goods? I was excited about the new update for these.

Can I trade them to other races?
Can I improve them in some way, or build economies around them?
Can I design the newest ayyPhone?

>>173547690
Frankly it's stupid that all ships look the same within a race regardless of tech, and that every race has different ship designs.

In reality, all races of similar tech levels would have nearly identical ships, due to principles of engineering being universal and not subjective.

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>>173548882
Im actually Xenophobe psionic butterflies, i have 2 planets full of slaves that work only in mines.
I had to figure out the hard way that the sector AI will rebuild your slave planet and will dump unity and science buildings for some fucktarded reason.
So if you make a slave-planet make sure that you directly control it at all times.

>>173547256
You're cute, but your cousin, the snail with straw in mouth, is cuter.

>>173549145
Can purge much better as just xenophobe. Same with slavery.
Xenophobe has the two main authoritarian schitcks and actual bonuses at the same time.
unrest isn't much of an issue where everyone is either your happy race or a slave or dead.
You can also go can and should go spiritualist.

>>173549284
> I was excited
poor bastard

consumer goods is a minerals tax for every pop you have and nothing more.
There is a species policy you can set to increase or decrease the mineral tax in return for happiness and unhappiness.
That is it.

>>173549284
nope its just a flat minerals cost per pop, this isn't anno

Does the beta patch correct the Survey Corps deal?
Currently every survey gives you 33% of your monthly research output as bonus, that's p bad. I mean it's good, but it essentially doubles your research output if you survey 3 planets a month, and I doubt the AI can profit off this.

>>173549145
I purged and enslaved just fine without. Also The Greater Good gives -20 unrest.

>>173547475
anyone know this?

>>173549284
I think it's just a measure of minerals your pops consume.
Depends on inherent traits and policy setup, both of which can be adjusted to lesser or greater extent.

Does the reznar rips not give achievements or are achievements just bugged still

It says i'm eligible but i'm not getting them. It's fine if they don't at least I can play it but I was just wondering if it was bugged or just some pirate/cheat protection

>>173549372
thank you trying that out now, should i focus on do early wars to get as soon as possible slavesor should i just search primitves or wait until i get stronger?

>>173549458
>that's p bad. I mean it's good
You are complaining about how strong it is, right?
I do somewhat agree.
Can't use it in every situation though.
AI does actively survey but not that much.

Just noticed the stelaris update hit. Do I need to buy the utopia expansion for 20$, or is this another one of those 'paste files into dlc folder' things?

>>173549602
AI is far to willing to share maps with everyone when they have that policy so they can't even near abuse it to the degree you do

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>>173549093
Kind of makes me want to play as Space Dwemer
>mechanist
>has tons of robots but somehow still tries to go for psychic ascention
>removes itself from reality as they do so
>robots and megastructures just left behind, except for one fat fuck

>>173549571
Might want to save and reload to set everything to go again but MP handles hotjoin and players falling to AI when they leave the game so I'd certainly imagine it is fine.

>>173549637
No different to pirating other paradox DLC.

>>173549726
>>removes itself from reality as they do so
Thanks to the End of Cycles, you can actually do that.

>>173549601
Try to enslave some primitives, thats really best case scenario.
But wait till you have enough energy income.

>>173549725
Oh right I forgot how much they jerked off to star charts.

>>173548817
they look like shit

>>173548646
Do people really give their races "serious" sci fi names? I usually just call them shit like "space spocks" and "space birds".

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I WANT TO START INSIDE A NEBULA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>173549754
I made a save before I tried it, I aint stupid but I guess I'll try a few years and see if the AI is acting properly
I was just asking because apparently the observe command breaks the AI

also tag-switching to the AI is just depressing when you see all those regular power plants build over the beltharian ore and even 2 empires that didn't have researches assigned to each research

>>173549637
Imagine stellaris is a 1000 piece puzzle. Paradox gives you 600 pieces of the stellaris but that clearly means there's 400 missing and you just have to look at it disappointed and imagine what the rest looks like.

Utopia is like if Paradox dumped 200 more pieces on you and went "this is now a 2000 piece puzzle". You got more content, but none of the previous missing pieces were added and now there's other missing pieces you have to hopefully wait and get when they drop another piece dlc for 20$.

In short: it's more of the game but it doesnt fix any problems

>>173549932
Most people do. I have a half-dozen self-created empires. Sorry you can't get emotionally invested in a video game. That's a sign of autism.

>>173549602
>in every situation
Any map bigger than what... 400 stars should do the trick.
What I meant is that I doubt the AI uses its extra research points and invests fast into extra mineral/energy techs, which then you can use to build more labs/research bases, and have it snowball until you're researching late game techs not 50 years in.
And then, yeah, they keep proposing me to trade star charts, don't doubt they do that among each others too.

My emblem isn't showing up on the galaxy map, it just has my empire name. I've tried it with both vanilla and modded emblems and it isn't working, please help.

>>173549784
Can I enter into a covenant with The End of Cycles if I'm already in one with the Eater of Worlds?

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>>173550085
You only said that to preempt me calling you autistic, didn't you?

>>173549972
I didn't mean to imply you were that level of idiot. I mean to say do your tagswitching, save the game and reload that save. In older paradox titles it was sometimes necessary to jumpstart the AI and other shit by doing a quick save/reload.

>>173550104
Unfortunately no. Chaos undivided isn't allowed.

>>173550035
This was more in response to "is it worth buying or pirating" but now I realize you just meant how easy is it to pirate, my bad

>>173550194
ah thanks, I'll do that

on a similar note, it does feel sort of silly having to jump through all these hoops to ensure I haven't won the game by 2280

>>173550195
Shame.
There's no way to leave a covenant is there?
The Eater of Worlds is pretty nice but End of Cycles sounds fun.

>>173549458
>>173550089
So yeah, on that again, 33% is way too much. Maybe it should just be a flat one point per 50 full research output you have, or something.

Fucking Stellaris stole another evening from me.
Fuck it I'm quitting this game. It's destroying me.

>>173549382
I think that's a piece of grass in his mouth.

>>173550321
I got Tzeentch my first game. +15% research and all that ever happened was a few leader becoming alcoholics.

>>173550421
What is straw?

>>173550415
>tfw you play a game and get 9 hours in and it starts to get really boring really fast because there's nothing interesting left to do
>force yourself to keep playing because you dont want to admit to yourself you sunk all this time for nothing and want to see a conclusion
true pain

>>173550415
ya lol ikr kek

+1

>>173547256
>starfish cuties ascend out of early-space age 150 years into the game
>contact them
>Our fleets will purge your puny race

that was just way to adorable, then they managed to pick a fight with the xenophobic awakened fallen empire and got annihilated, but it was cute while it lasted

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>not playing highly adaptive hive mind
>not using PCS

>>173550854
>playing hive mind at all
how's the tutorial coming along

>>173550854
>extremely adaptive
>slow learners

meh

>>173550990
>50% hab on all planets day 1

>>173550854
any reason you took slow learners over repugnant?
the latter is literally a free point for hiveminds while slow learners does hurt you

>>173550854
went with agrarian/fast breeders myself and sort of lucked out on having sufficient planets nearby which caused the snowball to be even bigger

>>173550035
I still personally think adding barebones Civ-level cultural policies offers more tactical decision making than before even if it could have been much more fleshed out

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>>173550035

Objectively wrong.

This update fixed many of the problems with the last one. Better multi-species empires, fixing the faction and political systems (ie; no purging pops that diverge from the loyalists), and more endgame content. Making food a universal resource means that Agrarian worlds and 'farm' planets are no viable, it's less of a hassle to build on tiny planets with many blockers at least early on (less requiring every spaceport to have orbital farms at least), and unity made the 'tall' playstyle a little better, or rather made slow expansion and building up when you can't expand easily much better, meaning pacifist runs are much more interesting.

Unity fixed many more problems then it created. You people need to stop acting like /v/. Not everything is shitty. Stellaris is improving as a game and hopefully it keeps up, because it's quickly becoming a one of a kind thing, and it's looking good.

one of the things that still bothers me about stellaris is how similar all planets feel to eachother

here's hoping for some form of trade system where each planet has a couple of resources from a sufficiently large list they produce and maybe something like a double-star system so systems have more variation

Is there a way to ensure that galaxies always spawn with a UN Earth/Commonwealth of Man?

Furthest I've ever played into a save before

Purple right neighbor is my ally and bro of over 150 years
Fallen Empire to my south is xenophilic

Just killed dim horror and am about to go fuck up the enigmatic fortress

Also about to finish Tach lances and already have lvl 3 autocannons and plasma lancers

Took flesh is weak and am pretty robo now too

>>173551092
If I'm not mistaken, you can't take repugnant as a hivemind. When I tried it, it wouldn't let me continue and told me I wasn't elibilge for the perk because of my authority

>>173551317
it literally didn't fix a single thing that matters, those are nitpicks, and this is touted as a major release?

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>>173551817
woops lel

>>173550854
>>173550947

whats the deal with hivemind ? are they too basic or what

haven't played it and the hive mind from expanded govs mods plays nothing like that

>>173552018
>alans

horsefuckers out

>>173551895
I'm currently playing as a repugnant hivemind, so unless that was a bug which was fixed in the recent patch, go for repugnant

I know there are a few you cannot take like solitary and deviant but yeh I could understand removing repugnant for hiveminds since there are literally no downsides. Your species automatically dies in another empire and any species in your empire either gets eaten or else modified into a hivemind at which point no more happiness

>>173551317
>fixing the faction and political systems (ie; no purging pops that diverge from the loyalists)

Not being able to purge the ethically divergant is the OPPOSITE of a fix. Indicative that Paradox's ideological myopia renders them incapable of imagining any playthrough that isn't "Refugees Welcome Space Sweden" or "Literally Hitler Kill Everyone Racist".

The purge system was fine before. You could kill individual pops to free up space on your planets, you could kill pops who diverged from the party line if you were playing Space Stalin... it was all good.

Now it's fucked.

And all this fine control over displacement is pointless too because migration now takes far too long to solve any problems AND migration continues to be totally useless after 2300 anyway because by then all the planets in the galaxy are full so there's nowhere to migrate to.

Utopia absolutely broke more than ot fixed. Authoritarian is worse, pop ethics don't matter, migration treaties don't work even without the complaints about migration above.

>>173551317
You're both right, with his wording a bit more specific(whether he meant it or not).

You're right in that it is a really good patch alongside the DLC launch. It did nothing but change the game for the better.

He's right in that most of the DLC features, specifically the ascendancies, Hive Minds and megastructures have very dramatic implications but in practice they only offer a few numeric buffs to your faction with very little exposition or reason to care.

>>173551817
>>173552018
Really interesting hive-mind map.
My advice would be to shore up that mineral production. It's a glaring issue.
If you get into a big scrap it'll take you fucking forever to rebuild up to that fleet limit, which is when the bad things happen.

>>173552084
Hivemind is don't worry about leaders or factions or happiness(be it for good or ill in each case), everyone doesn't like you very much and you have strong buffs. That's it.

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So uh

How much of this do I need if I want to get into EU?

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>>173552362
all of it of course

you're not poor are you?

>>173551895
If you're a hivemind, everyone's disgusted with you anyway.

>>173552362

All of it, goy

>>173552362
Expansions+Content packs.

>>173552362
A few specific ones, some you may want to avoid, like whichever adds trade leagues that thus renders Italian minors borderline unplayable.

In general just buy the base game and pirate the rest seriously. They don't deserve the money, particularly in EU4 where they actually paywall important features(that you do feel the absence of, because of the updates that come with the DLC)

>>173552335
I agree, I've been trying to hammer science since it was my biggest weakness for a while, a good part of the top left is territory I just conquered so I'm working on displacing the pops there

I have to get back on developing mines, I think I'm in a fairly good spot for a first real run though

>>173552815
>>173552904
S-so which ones are the expansion+content packs?

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Does anyone know the name of the trait/console command that allows you to research the technologies from the Enigmatic Fortress?

could I get a quick rundown on Fanatic Spiritualist-Militarists? Why are they so autistic?

>>173552987
faction_delete 0

>>173552980
it says right there mang
no one here has ever purchased a Paradox DLC

>>173553019
Because militarist in Utopia is not easy to play. You have to be at war at all times or your civ becomes pacifist

Spiritualist is just a cop out for keeping people happy

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Hmmmmm........

Stellaris is never going to be good for two reasons: One, Paradox is two obsessed with modern moral dichotomies that don't make any sense in a space-faring situation with multiple sentient species.

Two, Stellaris doesn't fucking understand how to do conflict when conflict IS the 4X endgame.

>>173552987

I had this on a notepad

event population_improved_test.6 0

>event guardian.2151 Fortress tech

>event guardian.663" to uncover the Dragon Egg and/or "event guardian.661" for the Dragon Armour.


It should work ( it did for me )

>>173553226
stellaris doesn't really have an endgame because you snowball at hilarious rates even compared to other 4x's

>>173552945
>>173552335
Fuck I said hive-mind map for some reason.
I meant hyperlane map.

Just do really be extra careful of fleet wiping. It's really a game that can be decided in a single battle with some of the end game shit.
There will be times when you need to place an order for two hundred cost 200 corvettes.

>>173553019
If you mean fanatical purifiers, they are fanatic xenophobe militarist.
If you don't, I don't know what you're refering to.

>>173553226
I don't really expect paradox to understand any morality. I'm honestly more offended by the wasteful/environmentalist traits affecting commercial goods.
Like recycling is some sort of voodoo magic or some shit.

>>173553145
>Running an entire planet at a loss

Wowzer kabowzer

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FUCK OFF

>>173553472
Is there any sweeping thing I should focus on here? Like the synth ascension thing? Or just memeing my way up through the left with already near-maxed wep battleships?

>>173546658
Is it possible to pirate just dlc? Or would i need to pirate stellaris?

>>173553646
I meant past just building mines all over the damn place of course, that will happen as fast as I can displace and repop like 5 new worlds (2 are like mostly mine now)

>+35% fire rate from shroud covenant and boon

The Divines sure love their dakka

>>173552904
This. They've even literally removed features for those that don't have DLC too. Without Rights of Man you can't upgrade your province's development, and in the corresponding free patch they made it so development is tied to the number of building slots each province has. So now, if you don't have the dlc, you're limited to 2-4 buildings in each province, whereas before you could build almost every building in each province. And they overall nerfed wide too while the buffs to tall are DLC exclusive, so if you don't have the DLC the game in general is just worse off than before.

>>173553646
Focus on squishing fallen empires and expanding to get ready for the end game shit.
Don't rely too heavily on battleships. They only really counter other battleships.
Against awakened empires they have a fuckton of battleships and their battleships are better. So it's wasted fleet capacity in a lot of cases.
Throwing dozens of lances at once is magical though.

I hear synth ascension is a bit mediocre.
Psionic seems to be the best done but that might not be available to you.
Genetics is good but also kinda boring.

Note that just getting the first half of an ascendancy is pretty cool as it gives all your leaders and pops decent traits.

>>173553839
Yes that is what most people do. You download the DLC files from somewhere and crack your game so that the .exe reads from steam that you have everything, hopefully(and I'd imagine successfully based on how many people do it for paradox games) without gaben finding out.

I don't know about Stellaris but every other current paradox title is typically cracked and available over at cs.ru.rin. Rezmar or something is the guy who does it. And I've seen him mentioned here so I assume he does stellaris too.

In theory it's just another paradox game so find out how to crack the DLC of CK2 or EU4 in /gsg/ and it'd work the same here.

>>173554121
Not being able to develop is even worse with the update to westernization.
If you're in a backwards shithole you can either wait for institutions to reach you slowly and naturally. Or you could play the game as alt-history like it is always played and boost a ton of development in one province to get the institution to spread there super quick.

Rights of Man is the main offender here really.

what is dangerous about sentient ai if i don't have robots?

>>173554291
and with development enjoy literally every single nation, even in the ass end of mongolia, having all techs by the end of the game

>>173554023
I wonder how fast you can get lances.
Fanatic militarist, the 8% civic, the repeating tech, the tradition closer, the admiral's abilities. What else is there?

>>173554373
They say death to all living things and violently expand and exterminate.

Why won't my federation members agree to any wars whatsoever?

Even when I give them all the war goals, they're all voting no to everything. We're the strongest federation in the game, we're like two good wars away from winning a federation victory.

>>173554373
>>173554465
Oh fuck you meant the tech.
Nothing, I think.
Though the materialist fallen empire can get pissed off at you and ask others to slap your shit for meddling with forbidden tech.

The crisis cause weights are on the wiki somewhere, I think with no synthetics you shouldn't have a problem.

>>173554126
Yeah I have it already and it's been tremendously helpful, and how close am I to fucking up these FEs? Is the ascension perk worth taking and then taking them on around me?

>>173553226
>One, Paradox is two obsessed with modern moral dichotomies that don't make any sense in a space-faring situation with multiple sentient species.
I don't understand this. What do you even mean by this? Sure, there are some tongue-in-cheek jokes about both sides of several issues but I fail to see this moral preaching you /pol/ surrogates are harping on about all the time.

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Will this be fun for an aggressive militarist campaign? I'm not that worried about minmaxing.

>>173554846
>King of The hill
0/10 grammar

>>173554846
>only negative is sedentary

yawn

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I don't even care about the shitty balance issues. Any game that lets me conquer an alien species and turn them into cattle is good in my book.

>>173554595
>the materialist fallen empire can get pissed off at you
is this bad?

i have a spiritual fallen empire bordering me, will they ahve a reaction? it seems to me like they would be more upset than materialists, you sure you didnt switch the empires?

>>173554664
Depends on the FE. 100k strength should crush any one of them.
Might need up to 150k if they awaken(and you react quick). Depending on ship design and fleet composition.

I don't have too much experience with Awakened Empires though. For recent reference with the unbidden though, they start with six 54k stacks I think. Which can be effective to around 20k if you hard-counter them with long range kinetics while investing in your own shields.

>The birth of space piracy
>>Some of our citizens repurposed civilian ships and became pirates.
>The pirates my empire sprouted have shields and lasers, neither of which I have unlocked.
How and why.
Can't they just use the techs I have, damnit.

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>>173555005
Not as far as I'm aware. The Materialist's schtick is hoarding tech and keeping forbidden toys away from the kids.
The spiritualists only care about muh holy worlds.
They'll talk shit about you giving up your souls and get a malus, but not a reason to declare war. As far as I'm aware.

>>173555131
IIRC if you manage to get a FE to 200 and below negative relations they will declare war on you, even xenophiles

that said unless you're intentionally pissing them off that shouldn't happen early game

>>173555005
Don't settle on any gaia world close to them. They're holy worlds, they'll attack you.

>start game as xenophobic isolationists
>agenda: xeno outreach

Yeah, great

>>173555131
will materialists attack me?

i feel like paradox should of made the tech more dangerous by having the sentient ai research robots itself.

>>173555221
I don't think it happens with the ascendancy as it's only like -50 or something. So you would need to piss them off other ways as well.

How is a pacifist supposed to expand without the ability to wage wars of conquest?

Liberation wars, then integration?

Doesn't that take forever?

>>173555076
Nigga why are you complaining? You When you beat them and scan the wreckage you get those techs added as permanent research alternatives until you choose to research them.

>>173547475
If you don't unpause the ai won't do anything

>>173555245
>Don't settle on any gaia world close to them
is there a planet modifier that tells you this? if not, then how close?

>>173555349
They might do, but it'd be to humiliate and take the tech away I think. Rather than ruin your life.

It still can be dangerous. The AI does build robots and the crisis can start from anyone who researches the tech, not just the player.
Same with jump drives and the unbidden.

>>173555383
this game one of my protectorates actually managed to piss off the xenophobic FE enough they declared war on them

was 2250 or so, thank fuck all they demanded was to humiliate that protectorate and wreck 2 of their frontier outposts so I pretty much instantly hit the concede button before they killed to much stations

anyone else constantly forget they paused the game and are wondering why things are going slowly

>>173555419
Colonize stuff?

>>173555513
>is there a planet modifier that tells you this

yeh its called "holy world"
do not settle there

also you instantly piss off the spiritualist FE's if you settle on any tomb world, but by the time that's a problem you're generally close to being able to handle them (if they don't awaken)

Asking again, is it possible, by embracing factions or some other way, to alter your ethics mid-game?

Also, is faction embrace broken? I heard from other anons that a counter for the other factions to stop being pissed at you starts but never goes down.

>>173553226
>alien race bred and born to kill and murder
>goes to space
>"WE NEED TO BE PEACEFUL GUYS"

>>173555419
Rapid colonization and yeah, integration. The new Domination tradition tree greatly expedites the integration process.

>>173552362
Note that these only cover the expansions, the content packs are just cosmetic additions so don't buy them if you don't care for that.:

Art of War and Common sense are absolutely 100% necessary. They fix a lot of the game's problems and honestly should be free due to how mandatory they are.

The other DLCs vary in usefulness.
Cossacks, Mandate of Heaven, and Rights of Man add some universal content and features. They're great to have but not mandatory.

Wealth of Nations, Res Publica, Mare Nostrum, El Dorado, and Conquest of Paradise add features, but they're almost entirely focused on specific countries or governments, so unless you have an interest in playing those groups specifically, skip them. You won't get much out of them if you just play European kingdoms every game.

Everything else is cosmetic stuff, music packs, or some minor events. Your choice on whether or not they're worth it.

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>>173554917
>>173554920
fixed ;)

>>173555675
also, while this generally shouldn't apply, building a dyson sphere or ringworld in a holy world system ensures the only peace the FE will accept is your head on a stake

>>173555513
Yes there is a planet modifier, it reads holy world.

>>173555551
Xenophobe Fallen Empire are fucked in the head and always have been.
If you build your first frontier outpost in the first decade with no knowledge of another alien species and it is too close to them they'll instantly declare war. Infact you get the war declaration before they actually appear on the map.

The other Fallen empires have some sort of interaction.
The Isolationists are you're too close and at war with them, or you're not.

Sol was in their borders, they were primatives who ended up in space, carving a chunk out of the fallen empire. The Isolationists were fair for once in their existence and didn't mind this.
Then the humans tried to expand somewhere close by.
And close to them was close to the isolationists. So they smacked down the humans.
Humans kept trying, isolationists kept fucking them in the ass.

Paradox really needs to rework them.

>>173555831
What are the paid features of Art of War?
Are you confusing the free updates alongside the DLC with the paid features?

>>173555675
>if they don't awaken
how do you know when theyre awake? the one next to me seems awake, i can talk to them.

>>173552263

You should be able to purge individual pops but not see their ethics without the right research or planet policy or something.

Why would your empire know that these specific people are slightly less/more religious then others? Kind of bullshit. Just like in the old game, the faction system was shitty.

>trying to argue this update is based on politics instead of the developers just making a minor oversight and trying to tie all the mechanics of the game work under one umbrella
Go back to >>>/pol/ you faggot

Can someone help me out? I'm a pc noob and was wondering if you can use pirated dlc with the steam version of stellaris. Does anyone know if that is possible? If so could anyone help me out on how to do that? I know you guys are pretty good with that shit. I'm trying to figure this out before the steam sale ends

>>173555995

You'll get an event. Something like "Shipyards roaring to life blah blah blah prepare your anus". Just pray you don't get War in Heaven :^)

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>>173555091
I tried from what little we see of them in TNG and what the alpha and beta wikis say

>>173555906
Fuck paradox so hard for their paper thin depth to this game.

>Xenophile FE takes one of your POPs
>they keep sending you condescending updates as to how the little colony enjoys their cage in the zoo, written so the FE actually thinks it's being nice

>put up with spiritualist FE talking shit about your mechanical augmentations all game
>don't colonize a holy world to piss them off
>fucking glass the cunt instead
>have them properly react beyond just 'we war now'

>>173555995
unawakened fallen empires send a 100k fleet after you if you piss them off

awakened fallen empires send multiple 250k fleet doomstacks after you because you happen to be near them

oh and the latter actually rebuild their fleet, at an insane pace

>>173555995
That you can talk to them isn't the awakened status.
Awakened refers to them not being fallen anymore.
As in they go crazy and expand like mad.
You get a notification. If you're close they'll probably ask you to be their bitch or declare war.
If two awaken there is a war in heaven and you can choose sides or stay out of it.

>>173556272
Around what point in the game do they usually awaken? If I invade one to my right will the chill xenophile to my south flip out and rape me?

>>173556038
just buy the fucking dlc you dumb nigger

>>173552362
dont know about mandate of heaven bcause it looks like more shit than good

make sure you get "no voltaire in congo" fix or else africans will have equal tech to europeans (paradox swedes did this 2 patches ago). the fix brings tech closer to paradoxes own historical start dates. the game is unplayable without that fix.

>>173555995
If you have to ask that then they're not awake yet. You'll know when they're awake because shit will go down.

>>173556372
The triggers are based on difficulty, how big your fleet is, random number generation, if an end game crisis has appeared and if despite having a small fleet you've managed to whack another fallen empire already.

>>173556038
Traverse the archives to when the update was released.

>>173556038
Yes it is possible. Can't be fucked helping you out, no.
Skim the thread I've already answered more or less the same question.

>>173556372
random, earliest that it can happen is 2300 though usually it will happen around the 2350-2400 mark

also fallen empires can awaken in response to a few things
1: being declared war on, if you wage war with a fallen empire DO NOT SIGN WHITE PEACE
2: the endgame crisis: generally speaking this is a good thing because they're hardcoded to only care about defeating the crisis so you have generally speaking plenty of time to prepare
3: megastructures being built, but if you're doing that you should be ready to take them on
4: other fallen empires awakening. This is what's called "war in heaven". 2 fallen empires awaken and go to war, the entire galaxy is now forced to either join their factions and basically become their bitches or else go in the "independent" faction led by the strongest non-fallen empire in the game and be double teamed

>>173556641
>>173556520

Damn so my save is basically over then with one to my south and the Mith-Fell Guardians?

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What's your favorite species appearance/portrait?

Based on anything from colors, customization, animations, etc.

>>173555995
they lose the "stagnant"-noun attached to their government form

>>173556127
Thanks man

>>173555946
>What are the paid features of Art of War?
Transfer occupation, marches, client states, army builder, HRE religious wars, removing idea groups, support rebels in war, revamped peacemaking, mothballing, ship upgrading, revolutions

>>173556728
Meaning this
>>173552018

>>173556414
>buying paradox dlc

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Someone on the official forums said that Rulers in Imperial governments don't get experience points, and said that they verified it in the game files.

Anyone have an idea where that might be if we wanted to change it ourselves?

>>173556728
nah its perfectly possible for the player to reach a level of fleet power capable of fighting them off even if they awaken, or else reach a level of power that you can do a pre-emptive strike and take their homeworld. Its where 90% of their power comes from and if you take that the FE isn't a threat anymore

also if they awaken it is possible to become one of their vassals
do be aware this forces you to adopt their ethos and has a wide variety of rules like say the materialists demand 1/3th of your research every month, that you dismantle all robots etc. Xenophiles prevent you from purging, enslaving and any form of warfare that's not defensive (at which point they actually defend you so yay?) etc

also worth noting is that awakened fallen empires occasionally have "titan" class ships so prepare for that. They come with several XL weapons equipped and a titan laser weapon that can oneshot the average battleship

1) Are oligarchies still the best government?
2) Authoritarian/Militarist/Spiritualist, Authoritarian/Xenophobe/Pacifist, or Spiritualist/Xenophobe/Pacifist?

Authoritarian depends on whether or not slavery is worth it, I guess.

>>173556641
They actually react to megastructures being built?
That's pretty cool. Do they give you one line of commentary like some of the ascendencies?

>>173556728
Possibly. The end game can truly be punishing.

I've only played an MP game this patch and I haven't been sure of numbers as I haven't played before that in a long time but I was slightly stronger than another player at 82k fleet strength and the other player beat up the military isolationists and ate them(BEFORE they awakened, he then got fucked by an awakened one). Though my power to that fallen empire was equivilent(in the contacts screen), while the two others were still 'superior', so they might've been pretty weak.

You do have you ally which might help though.

>>173556890
Fair enough. Each one alone isn't too much outside the religious wars. But the rest I do use a fuckton.

>>173556815
The really tall pointed shape mollusk with tiny hands.

>>173557064
Oh okay, jut going off the timespan the other post said it seemed like I'm fucked being at 2353 with only around 60k fuller strength

Does hive mind not having happiness mean I don't have to worry about habitability?

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>>173557184
correct

how do you purge?

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What is the one feature missing that you care the most about right now.

I want to fucking Glass planets.

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I can't believe I am just now discovering this feature

>>173557184
Yes. Hive Minds are easy mode as far as empire management goes. Only somewhat difficult part is relations penalties with most empires.

>>173557181
60k, if you're clever, is enough to take on a non-awakened fallen empire
it requires luring their fleets into a prepared kill zone with stations but it is possible

also interesting to remember is that while fallen empires start with all technologies and 5x of each repeatable tech, they do not, and have no means of, reaching the leviathan techs such as dragonscale armor or the enigmatic fortress techs
the latter will actually provide you with a notable advantage so it is worth pursuing that particular leviathan

>>173557145
there's a few lines of comment they give on megastructures like a spiritualist FE thinking its the sign of the apocalypse and asking if they can inspect the installation

Threadly link so if people ask where they can get the dlc you can just tell them to read the fucking thread and not argue with them

http://www90.zippyshare.com/v/gDMkjgdk/file.html DLCs

http://www19.zippyshare.com/v/yjKoILir/file.html Crack

For steam users- copy the creamAPI folder contents into your main stellaris folder- overwrite. Ignore everything else. Don't touch anything in the INI. Copy all the dlc folders into your stellaris dlc folder. You're done.

I have these links in notepad because I notice so many people asking honestly somebody needs to just hide it in the op so we can at least reduce the amount of begging by 50%

>>173557347
species set rights set citzenship status set purge type

>>173557513
So me doing the enigmatic fortress within like 10 years is huge?

>>173557554
but nothing is happening? wheres the purge button?i have an early space age planet in my borders and thers no option to remove them

>>173557441
An ideological indoctrination civic, I want to be able to keep my people in line without having to get the spiritual ethic, and the reeducation campaign edict is shit.

>>173557441

I want some sort of trade and currency overhaul as well as a movement overhaul.

Hyper and warp drives should be the only starting, with a vastly improved Wormhole being unlockable. Add a building for hyperdrives that can link 2 systems together if they are in a certain range so you don't have to go 40 jumps to get to somewhere that's right next to you. Make FTL methods researchable like when you salvage a ship.

>Starting off early
>Run into dying empire
>They immediately declare war and teleport to all my planets with 45k doomstacks

Do I just restart at this point?

>>173557603
yup, actual spoilers here
enigmatic fortress gives you access to a 6th tier of both shields and power sources for your ship as well as ship aura devices that give %based debuffs to all enemy ships within range, it can push you beyond a FE

>>173557897

If their wargoal was to humiliate you, you can carry on once they ask for peace. Just lube up and soldier on then they'll fuck off.

If I change my capital planet can I build another capital complex or is it limited to one only?

>>173558291
other one gets destroyed if you switch capitols

>hey look an update
>play with 3 friends on large galaxy
>my sectors are totally undeveloped regardless of the amount of resources i pour in them
>First planet of the first sector (literally the largest structure in the galaxy by then) has A FUCKING REASSEMBLED SHIP SHELTER as its magnificent AI appointed capital
>unbidden come, they rek a few sistems and JUST STAND THERE until we reload, and it fixes itself for a few minutes then ENGAGE HURR DURR MODE
>one guy maxed his unity and has FUCKALL to do now
What the fuck is wrong with this game!

>>173557039
Look for the leaders tab in common
Or just change the "imperial" government form to give leaders level 5 automatically

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Should I play as space jesus or space hitler? I'm planning on restarting my early game save here because I didn't choose Hyperlane only. Any suggestions?

>>173552112
It's Alari* brah

>>173556815

The turtle. I use them for my pacifist federation builder runs. Kudos if you get the reference.

>>173558457
You're a retard for not understanding how sectors work.

>>173558489
You can't really start as space hitler. Hitler was a response to an attack, not something created out of nothing.

Go with space jesus, but remember that he did not come to earth to bring peace.

>>173558457
>sectoring off undeveloped worlds
You deserve everything bad that happens to you. Sectors are where you put your fully developed worlds when you're done with them and need to colonize new ones.

>>173558687
>>173558751
I'm a retard for having some trust in developers - they said they fixed sector AI

>unbidden spawn at the other side of the galaxy
>AIs dont let me through to take them out
What do? I dont want them to grow and get stronger.

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>Beat Yhorm for the first time with the help of Onionbro
>TFW turn around

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Neat.

And no. We shall not be embracing the worm today.

>>173558476
>Look for the leaders tab in common
I'm not seeing this at all in my common folder.

>>173558917
>letting onionbro die to the easiest boss in the game

Lmao no wonder you posted in the wrong general, bet you thought you wouldn't get laughed at here

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Ayyy senpai how many minerals you want?

>>173558871
They said absolutely no such thing. They said they only said they fixed some of the issues with it. it's still busted as fuck and you can't use it for anything except world storage. Sectors are something they are eventually going to have to completely redo.

>>173559074

Just dig my shit up, pham

>>173557441
Fun

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how do purge primitive early space age species planet in my borders so i can colonize? they dont show up in my empire species window. Do I need an obsvation post?

>>173559085
bethesda levels of incompetence
idiotic
i regret purchasing this dung

>>173559326

invade their planets with ground troops

>>173558457
first, turn off auto colonization
2nd, build all the basic shit on the planet before you hand it over to a sector
III, sector AI has always been god awful and won't be fixed unless you mod it which you should've known and done by now
lastly
>friends
>>>>>>>>>>>>implying

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>communicate with the shroud
>spy leaders of a Fallen Empire
>THEY KNOW

>>173559608

>first
>2nd
>III

That was annoying to read, anon. Please don't do it again

>>173559608
Define "all the basic shit" on a planet with tile blockers
how often should i babysit that bugged piece of shit

Is Militarist worthwhile?

How useful is 10%/20% faster attack speed?

>>173560073

I pick it for the increased chances of getting weapon tech

Tier II and III weapons and combat computers do wonders

I wouldn't go for fanatic just for more fire rate
admiral skill levels take care of that

>>173555675
But you can settle tomb worlds the moment you get droids.

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>play peacefully
>blob until it's boring

>play warlike
>conquer a few neighbors
>blob until it's boring

>get culture and pick social poli-- err, traditions
>they're boring

>pick ascendancies
>they're boring, even the big new ones

>play hive mind
>it's boring and not fleshed out

>build megastructures
>they come into play when they're irrelevant
>they're boring

is this game ever going to be fixed

>>173553238
Cheers, I'll give it a go.

Be honest. How many cheats do you use?
I use for resources and I'm considering making slavery available through cheats too.

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Do vassals pay tribute to their overlords like tributaries do? I remember they used to... I think. Its been a while since I've used them.

A blob got too big to tributary and I don't really feel like creating a liberated state that may or may not submit to me and waiting ten years to attack again and get them to pay up. I'm thinking about making them a protectorate and hoping they catch up technologically fast enough to give me shekels.

Is Alpha mod fun/good?
Are there any good mods that change the game?

>>173560275
Thanks!

Would you suggest Xenophobic, then, instead of that Fanatic rank in Militarist?

>>173560607
No.

The way it used to work was that when you liberated a an enemy, you became the protectorate of the liberated planets which you could eventually absorb. You never got money from vassals

How do these 'Skull' Tier mobs work? I killed the dragon once but I had a stack around 25k, are they just somewhat proportionate to who they are fighting? Or are they all around 20k? I don't want to blow a large fleet fighting any of them because I wasn't aware they were crazy strong or anything.

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r8 my lore-friendly space elves.

>>173561383
But elves are the biggest xenophobes there are.

>>173561383
>elves
>xenophile
NOPE

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>>173561383
>not using the hair mod

>>173561428

No they're not. They love all of illuvatar's creations. You're thinking of the Sindarin.

>>173561383
>minmaxed traits
>agrarian idyll

yawn

>>173561509
No idea what you are talking about. I'm thinking of Night elves. And LOTR elves. And WH elves. and WH40k Eldar.

>>173561234
More or less around 20+ to 30 if end game, I think.

I killed the horror to get top tier warp drive.
Then I'll research it to install it to my dreadnaught.
Surely no one will notice, right?

>>173561464
Amanyar. Not Sindarin.

>>173561506
yeah no blond hair irked me. half of all elven names relate to hair in some way. Name of mod?

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>>173558743
>Hitler was a response to an attack

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>>173561625
Mod could possibly not work so you will need to unpack the zip and manually add the files.

>>173561536
What if I make an Agrarian society of spritualist pacifists who want to just be left the fuck alone to farm on various planets?

>>173561718
Then you shouldn't have high-tier resources thrown at you because you REALLY like farms.

>>173561536
They're minmaxed? Didn't know that. Just went with the theme of preservers of illuvatar's gifts.

>>173561598
The Amanyar are the LOTR elves known as High Elves that went to Valinor. The Sindarin or Dark Elves are the ones you see in LOTR.

It's lore-friendly if you're read the silmarillion, which is just a staggeringly good bit of mythic fiction.

Habitats are fucking Overpowered for energy harvesting.
Dump solarpanels/unity shit onto them and youre a rich spacenigger.

>>173561625
>>173561714
forgot link
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=790412525

also get the elven namelist mod

>>173561708
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_Germany
>763,000 starved or succumbed to disease

>what does the first leader elected to prevent that from ever happening again do?
>conquers farmland. "living space"

>>173561808
It was a cool touch when I noticed you can't build solar panels in a black hole galaxy.
Also, are achievements not working? Ironman is on, but I didn't get the black hole one, the gaia terraform one, or the opening a shielded world one.

>>173560057
remove all the tile blockers and queue all the level 1 buildings. After that you can hand it to the sector.
also forgot to mention don't turn on redevelop, but meh you can't say quadrily that just makes not sense and tbfh it should be self-explanatory.

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I AM THE NEBULA

>>173561837
can someone mega the mods for elven hair and mods? I don't have steam

>>173561837
Both of the mods are out of date, i assume it doesn't matter?

>>173561956
>Historical events are an 'attack'

I love you faggots, you're like niggers with their 'reparations' for things the never effected them or a living member of their people.

Never change.

>>173562087
>planet is not named Krikkit

Shame.

>>173562174
If it shows up in your modlist then you're good. Otherwise you will have to add the files manually. You may want to keep a backup of the humanoid_05 asset selector as I believe that is the only file that is replaced.

>>173562145
http://stellaris.smods.ru/archives/525

>>173561598
Elves, you nog. Why the fuck would you think of night elves if they're not purple and have "Aman" in their name?

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>Slaver empire expands to take up 1/3rd of the galaxy.
>Research and Unity sufferers
>Sandwiched between Tech and Military FEs
>MFW war in heaven literally through my backyard.

>>173562241
Historical events? Hitler and most of the people who voted for him lived through that shit. How the fuck would you respond to that? Wouldn't you at least want to prevent that from happening again?

Christ some people see the world simplistically. Every action has consequences. Why are we ignoring the causes of one of the worst things to ever happen? Do we just like the belief that people can be unjustifiably evil?

>>173562368
Thank you.

>>173561536
>Minmaxed traits
>Implying venerable is good
>Implying the game doesn't want you to minmax with such a small trait selection
I don't know how anyone can tolerate the selections in this game normally. Modding in new traits is practically a requirement.

>>173562417

He's thinking of common depictions of elves from people who glanced over the lord of the rings and then made their own elves using their complete ignorance of what lotr elves really were. Aka, the movies and all material based on lotr, which is 99% of the fantasy genre, really.

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>>173562429
good post

>everyone is making either space nazis or elves in a game about aliens

Truly humanoid species group was a mistake.

>>173562281
>tfw can't be Fanatic Purifiers and pacifist at the same time

I've wanted to do a Krikkit playthrough but never been able to get something that feels right.

With robotic armies and stuff it should be possible but you can't mesh it with a sensitive and cultural people who like music in Stellaris.

>>173562752

The alt-right need to leave this general. After the energy debacle earlier today, I think they are harmful to this general.

>>173562752
let me guess... you're a furry?
it's about the interactions too, hombre

>>173556184
>strickly
>having no qualms to
kys urself m80

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>>173562860
XENOPHILES GET OUT

(pictured: xenophobe autocratic spiritualist masterrace)

>>173562368
The elven namelist shows up in the modlist, but it does not show up in the name list.

Any ideas?

>>173562860
>nuclear power is super harmful
>pollution is a meme
kek'd

>>173562752
Stop being a sperg, I'm sure that those space elves and Nazis aren't hurting you.

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>>173562752
Don't forget Space Rome

How long does fucking displacement take. I have had these gaya aliens stuck in my empire for what feels like forever

>>173563041
You can't get rid of nuclear waste though?

>>173562075
oh and you should probably build the correct science lab upgrade on their proper science resource tile or you'll get physics lab 3 on engineering resources et cetera, because the inherent problem of the AI is that it does not understand "respect tile resources". Disregard this if you are not on the autistic spectrum

Is there a filter or search anywhere that shows me terraformable barren planets? Obviously any habitable planet can be terraformed, but I specifically would like to see ones that are uninhabitable/uncolonizeable unless terraformed.

>>173563016
Find the file in the mod archive and just copy it to your namelist folder in your stellaris files.

>>173563135
dump it in the US LOL

>>173562429
>muh ww1

Still haven't explained how the Nazis were, quoting you, """attacked""" in 1939, you deluded naziboo.

>>173563216

Yeah in the process of doing that i read the names and really they're not any more elven-y than the default humanoid 1 namelist. Guess i'll have to make my own, good thing i got a stock of modafinil.

>>173549938
And I want environmental factors to have meaningful consequences, but we can't have everything, right?

>if you fight next to a black hole it's the same as fighting next to a star

>>173562429
to bad the germans opened the war by attacking a neutral country, destroying its entire infrastructure and literally raping its population

germany had absolutely nothing to complain about after WWI, the allied parties honestly had full moral authority to dismantle the entire country

would have stopped WWII

>>173560719
Related: is Nationalistic Zeal a worthwhile Civic?

>>173563135
>300 million tons of trash stored in landfills per year in the US
>47,000 tons of nuclear waste stored in underground repositories TOTAL

What more races would you like to see in updates?
I want more humanoids, not necessarily ''pretty'' like the elves -though more elfy elves would be fun too-, just a wider selection.
Also, some reptiles that are more draconian.

>>173563389
What mod are you using?

>>173563341
So you can't read?

Hitler and thousands of germans saw their friends and families die for no reason after a war they did not start was lost.

The first political entity that said "Never Again" was voted into power. Hitler was it. Hitler would never have sought political power, would never have held political power, if that pointless butchery hadn't occurred.

Evil doesn't come out of nowhere. You have to really upset humans for it to come out, just like Quark said. If we don't learn from our mistakes, we are doomed to repeat them.

>>173562429
>How the fuck would you respond to that?

Not by waiting 20 years, then claiming I was being attacked and invading a country that wasn't responsible for the blockade.

>>173563489
to be fair a nebula would have zero impact within the gravitational influence of a star

don't forget the contents of a nebula count as a laboratory grade vacuum, the only reason we can see them is because they're lightyears across

Guys, what do I do to get more influence? 1st run btw.

>>173563645
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=791804934&searchtext=elven

>>173547361
pls advise

>>173563745

There's technologies for one, appeasing factions that spawn is another.

Careful building frontier outposts; they consume 1 each. Get rid of them once you no longer want/need them.

You can declare rivalries with other factions, though they won't like you for it.

>>173563660
Germany turned a regional conflict into a world war, they are responsible for escalating it to the point all that shit happened.
And then to use a war Germany absolutely and in every possible way WANTED as an excuse to start a genocidal war against a country that didn't bloody EXIST at the time of the last war is utterly insane and in no way justifiable.

>>173563690
Okay, you got starved out by a foreign power.

What peaceful actions can you take to prevent that from ever happening again? You've only so much land and cannot feed everyone off it alone.

>>173563776
Copy from this one
http://www.moddb.com/games/stellaris/downloads/elves-of-stellaris

>>173563887
1: don't give everyone else a justified reason to starve you

>>173563717
Nowhere in space is laboratory grade vacuum. You're mistaken. Nebula are obviously more dense because otherwise you couldn't see them at any distance, like most places with sparse interstellar medium.