/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

>authoritarian this patch
ALMOST as bad as launch individualist

>>173334737
But it gave Xenophobe a reason to be picked.
The diplomacy minus isnt as huge anymore.

>>173334737
Yeah, it's only useful to roleplay as space Russia with serfdom now.

>>173334934
Yeah xenophobe is really nice.
I just wish you could be an evil bastard without it, even towards your own people.
Though I guess purging your own pops might fuck up factions.

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are these fleetwide or only for ships birthed from that specific station?

>>173335081
You can be a dick to yourself as authoritarian, dont you?
Having stuff like mine/food workers are enslaved etc.

How do we fix synthetic evolution path?

>>173335145
station specific

>>173335145
Only for ships made from that station.

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Huh. Any idea when they are going to leave early access and then boost the price to retail? Also has anybody in here played it and think it's a good successor to ES and EL?

I don't have any DLC in the codex crack. How the fuck do I fix this?

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*puffs polllen on you*

>>173335145
I was adking that myself too, if its fleet-wide its OP as fuck since every spaceport can build it.

>>173335152
Yeah but slavery and the new factions are a pain in the ass I've found.

Just finished a 4 player mp game we used to learn the new shit(tripped up twice really hard on expansion, nothing optimized for the patch, final nail in the coffin was unbidden two sectors off my capital despite no jump tech anywhere).

Was materialist, authoritarian, militarist.
I eventually had to free slaves because they were revolting and pulling hunger strikes and shit to make them worthless. Thankfully there isn't a penalty for previously enslaved any more, because it's automatic rather than pop by pop selection.
The bad part is they end up egalitarian, and spread that. And then you have an egalitarian faction in an authoritarian nation.
And unlike all the other polarized factions, egalitarian was at 0% forever, and I could never stamp it out.

>>173335162
What's wrong with it?
I only took the flesh is weak part and didn't get to finish it, but that itself is a pretty solid buff to your leaders and pops.

And everyone being synths at the end sounds pretty crazy as well.

>>173335145
>>173335804
Only for shit made there. Don't think upgrading from the station adds it either.

>>173335162
>unique portraits depending on your species type holy shit not the default synth portrait
>better bonuses on par with the AI crisis bonus considering ascending is a practical war with an FE type + loss of all species traits
>option to use ai crisis ships/planets
>more quests/lore while you are ascending instead of radio silence with no pushback from factions who should oppose it
>allow player to have multiple options on organic relationships (e.g. crisis/cybrex war path, forced assimilation out of conquest/sympathy for lesser lifeforms, peaceful relations, etc.)
>allow diplomacy with ai crisis forces because it's fucking dumb that they call you organic and fight another fully-synth species in their goal to "eliminate all organics"

>>173335472
Anything would be a good successor to ES.
Anything would have a hard time being a good successor to EL.

No idea on release date but I know the next update is the arbitrary "we're done now, 1.0." patch.

Is there any reason to go fanatical anything anymore other than the bonuses?
As in, do any of them have anything specific to them that their un-fanatic versions don't?

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>>173336306
>went full synth
>manually trigger ai uprising crisis with console command
>all my pops rebel and I lose all my planets

Hope this isn't what happens in multiplayer because holy fuck lads

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>>173334637
Would the Horatio be a hivemind in Stellaris?

>>173336829
no, just genetically modified meme race

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new to the game, rate my ferns

just checking, missiles are still a useless waste of a weapon slot right?

>>173336538
yes. Off the top of my head fanatic spiritualist can bomb planets worse than others

>>173336929
+leader age traits are somewhat overrated, it doesn't take TOO long to get them back up to high levels and technology is decently generous with +leader age anyway.
At least as far as I've found.

>>173337170
Yeah, strike craft too.

Does the colony / capital thing collect minerals as well now or only energy and food?

>>173337270
Spiritualist changes bombardment?
Thought that was only militarist, and both can get up to full.

>>173337284
Only energy I think.

So I just noticed that I can't download mods from the workshop with a legal copy and have them work on a pirated copy anymore, am I stuck downloading from skymods or is there a work around for this?

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Rate my civilization.
Also, what pizza should I order?

>>173335754
hey man what the frick is your prob ?

After I posted my 25 Tile Homeworlds mod last night, someone in the comments requested one that did the same thing for orbital habitats.

I doubt you guys will get much use out of this one, but I figure I might as well post it here anyway: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=900168923

>>173337734
What are orbital habitats by default?

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How do these traits look? my first proper game since just after the original release.

Can you build spaceports on orbital habitats and ringworlds?

Can the galactic wonders be destroyed or does a dyson sphere just change the value of the sun and act as a mining colony?
What about the radar thing?

>>173337834
Did you really just repost that to fix your grammar?

It's fine.

Oh you changed cutthroat politics, I was going to mention that it didn't fit, but they're only numeric additions rather than anything with roleplay value.

>>173337587
s'cool

Supreme.

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>tfw I just bought Hearts of Iron IV
>tfw seriously considering buying Utopia now
In the space of 4 years I've gone from never actually buying a single Paradox game to full paracuck.

>Flag colors
>No white
What the fuck? It's not for border reasons either since there is black.

>>173338706
White is the most racist color.
Is there any actual reason we have to choose between 24 colors instead of having a custom color option?

>>173338532
Stellaris and HoI4 are probably both their two completely fucked launches.

And yeah, the games aren't complicated, there are just a decent number to things to learn, and they do string together decently well.

I'd stay away from CK2 in its current state unless you can roleplay really well.

EU4 is decent though the DLC practices there are shocking.
Best policy is to just buy the basegame and pirate the DLC.

For older games HOI2, HOI3 and EU3 are probably their best games, along with Vicky2, but Vicky2 aint for everybody.
HOI3 is also quite different to anything either side of it with its complete OOB autism.

EU3 has their best soundtrack, I'd say by far but that's one of the unexpected boons of Stellaris, finally a competitor for the title.
Especially loving the vicky2-esq tracks of utopia, really nice change of pace.

>>173338706
Probably because paradox are lazy and all the faction names printed on the map modes are white.

What ascension path do I pick on my first utopia playthrough lads?

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Yeah on the Age of Imperial Age thing, I just played some AOE1, and it definitely works better. Got a lot of action even in tool and bronze. I think the higher unit count in 2 makes for a faster eco, so age tech is more affordable, and town centers melt early armies so effectively you can't really do much but in aoe1 some axe or swordsmen in an undefended base is murder. As soon as you get a reasonable ability to attack TC's castles start going up which you can't really attack well until you get trebuchets. So the best thing to do is just rush imp.

Dunno how much is down to the AI playstyle but I definitely noticed it watching some stream games too. No meaningful fights can really take place early.

The lead for AOE1 left to make EE, so maybe 2 was just not balanced as well because of that?

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>>173339031
I also noticed there's no silly no-food units. All human units cost food. Feels better somehow.

>>173339031
You can win with early pressure if the map and the opponent allow it, but it'll take progressing further and capitalizing on an eco advantage as a result of the raiding, or the map control it offers.

>>173339031
I still disagree.

>>173339004
I've been playing Paradox games since HoI2, I just used to pirate them completely. Darkest Hour was the first I actually bought and remains the one I've played the most. Which probably makes it even worse because I know what jews Johan and co are and yet I've been giving them more money for less content.

>>173339409
Yeah I'm the same. I feel particularly bad for the CK2 DLC though.

I've avoided HOI4 completely up until this point though, which is something.

And Utopia is straight up good. But I shouldn't have bought the base game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muqYPFCJhM0

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The last Xenos just migrated away from my empire and now all my people are happy that everyone's finally equal (and human).

Still regretting making a xenophobic+egalitarian empire.

Also thinking of removing every droid from this world to abandon it, then terraform into a continental-earthlike.

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There was a terrorist attack in Stockholm just now! I know that Sweden is a punching bag being mocked for trying to kill off their own people, but this is actually really sad. Swedes don't deserve to die, no matter how cucked and beta and pathetic they are :(
If there are any Svens in here, you have my condolences...

>2278
how the heck do you build vertically

>>173339590
SHUT IT DOWN

>>173339310
show me a game with significant meaningful fighting pre-imp then

it's night and day, AOE1 actually feels like you're progressing through the ages, AOE2 you just have a particularly long and boring buildup to when the game actually starts

>>173339281
sure you can maybe get a raid or two in on outlying resource camps, but a feudal watch tower fully garrisoned will melt you almost as fast as a TC even then.

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The European Alliance has conquered its first race. Should they be removed via RWDS or should we get some work out of them first?

>>173339824
only a few people died, not a massacre like in france or germany, I'm starting to think the swedish terrorists are just as cucked as the general population

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I love the smell of jihadis in the morning

>>173339824
>Swedes don't deserve to die, no matter how cucked and beta and pathetic they are :(
Sure, they don't necessarily deserve to die. But, when a person willingly enters a lion's den and they get ripped apart, it is a good thing that they died so that hopefully others like him fucking learn and his stupid ideas that convinced him "hey it's find if I walk into this lion's den" is gone with his death.

You'd be surprised how fucking stupid Swedes actually are. Hopefully shit like this happens more, only that the people who die are the genuinely retarded ones.

>>173339824
I'm sad that a dog was killed when that Religion of Peace truck drove through that crowd.

whats everyones favourite planet type? for me its Arid

>>173339846
influence is super important, width only really refers to colony count, not literal width.
You want to claim a lot with border outposts.
the last techs for the science lab upgrades are very important to get.

I haven't actively tried a tall nation but you can take them decently far. It's pretty similar to Civ though.
Few cities, make the absolute most out of your tiles and population.

>>173339940
Yeah I know, that's what I'm saying.
drush or feudal aggression(typically archers) can win you the game, although drush only rarely.
Depends on the map if the enemy has a safe gold or a forward gold, how easily they can wall and so on.
you don't kill them in feudal but you can make sure you win in castle.

Castle is 50% of the game and Dark Age is 30% of it.

It's a weird game with a weird meta
Imperial doesn't always come into play, and it's just Castle+

>>173340153
good taste, I love badlands.

So you currently cant do shit with other factions because they cana eat your influence permanently even when dissapeared?
Thats cool, not like they determine most of your production and shit

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>>173340153
Alpine is sexy

SO whats in the shroud, what does it do?

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>>173339981
So long butterfree

Did Utopia actually manage to get a single thing right? No, music isn't a valid answer since that has no impact on the overall game.
Like holy shit, here's how you fucking fix it:
1. Make a fucking private sector.
It makes no sense to have an authoritarian and egalitarian ethic when both are authoritarian with varying degrees of public liberty.
2. Create a fucking political system.
This isn't even a pathetic case of "expand on X", because the current political system is "time for elections lol" or "you're leader is kill". The factions could've been handle SO MUCH better.
3. Make more civics that actually matter.
If you pick mechanics you're literally cucking yourself.

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>2350
>unbidden show up
>they send 2 60k doomstack directly to me
>no awakened empire
>I lose
So much fun, thanks paradox

>>173340848
From a tech standpoint this expansions is so barebones that by giving them the benefit of the doubt, they spent most of the devtime figuring things out and testing things.
Which considering the end result might be even more sadder.

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>>173334637
F

1. I haven't played a Civ since Civ 4. Should I play Civ 5 w/ expansions, or Civ 6?

2. Are there any mods for Civ 5 or 6 which have an earth map, and historical starting locations? I can't stand America starting out in Austrialia, or finding Zulus living in Europe.

>>173341364
Civ 5 with all expansions is probably better than Civ 6 at the moment.

>>173340134
Game?

>>173341364
i don't really like civ 6 but idk

>>173341364
civ6 has the earth/start by default

spiritualist ethics locks you out of robots entirely, or?
Turing would be disappoint.

>>173341745
robots are cucks anyway so who actually cares

>>173340147
Press F for doggo :(

So, is Stellaris worth playing again?

Or just more icing on a hollow cake?

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>>173341479
syrian warfare

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I sure got bored of all this snow quick

>>173341974
How biased is the game?

>>173341974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OPLnKaXTAI

>>173340991
lmao git gud noob

>>173336790
>AI rebellion
>not disabled for synthetic empire
nice job paracucks

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>>173342109
Very pro-assad and pro-russian. The gameplay is really good though

Can anyone link me the steamworks fix to play Stellaris' MP with cracked DLCs?

>>173342308
>>173341974
What gem? It looks pretty at the least

>>173342308
It's one of those glorified Men of War mods right

>>173342308
so not biased at all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uap0GwBYdBA

>>173342648
>pro russia
>not biased

only non-biased view on russia is that of Reagan desu

>>173342503
it's named syrian warfare on steam

>>173342648
being biased means you side with someone, you tard.

>>173335472
Amplitude does take what they learned since ES and applied it to making ES2, so yeah, it is pretty good.

>>173339981
Please tell me "processing" turns them into food.

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>>173342629
it plays a lot like men of war, but it's not really a mod. it handles things like cover differently and the destruction system s pretty nifty. it's also a bit larger scale and doesn't have some of the features from MoW (you can't control units directly and it doesn't have the same penetration system).

pic is a badly beaten SAA infantry unit in the remains of a house hit by a russian air strike

>>173343412
yes

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>>173339004
>Stellaris and HoI4 are probably both their two completely fucked launches.
[EXTREME HYSTERIA]

>>173343172
You're somewhat correct.
Bias has connotations towards a conclusion being drawn for a side in absence of objectivity.

>>173343509
Sorry, didn't play it on launch.
Tell me horror stories please.

>>173339004
>>173343509
>Not V2.
>Where they forgot to close a parenthesis in the rebel.txt file that made everyone rebel all the time.

>spawn right next to Militant Isolationists
>instant war
ebin

>>173342648
>you will never go on a date with her

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Why the fuck am I stuck with a gold emblem and no white for the background?

>>173343805
It really is fucking instant.
Like you get the war notification before you see them pop in on the map, the second you place down a frontier outpost.

>>173343971
>>173343805
They never changed the fact that the AI declares meaningless wars in the early game constantly?

>>173344052
Referring to the fallen empire here.

>still no new ship classes & more for 1.5
impossible to play famalams

>TFW no pig aliens
>TFW can't cross breed
>TFW no mini type galaxy with only two species, elves and orkes
WHY DO I EXIST WHEN EXISTANCE IS SUFFERING

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>>173342064
It's a shame that building pretty cities is so tedious in this, even more so than SC4

I'm probably just being retarded since the last time I played Stellaris was at launch, but is there something to improving relations and forming a federation that I'm missing?

I've got 100 trust and a defensive pact with the squid-faced bastards and 175 opinion and friendly attitude but that still isn't enough. As far as I can tell the only things I could do to improve it would be even closer to them despite our borders nearly touching, and maybe have an overpowering fleet compared to theirs.

>>17334431
my big problem in cities skylines is wanting to just plop roundabouts everywhere instead of trying to fiddle around with interchanges

>>173344547
sux that roundabouts dont work like they should

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Do you guys put Afterburners, Shields & Armour on your non-military ships (i.e Science, Construction, Colonizing etc)? Is it a waste of minerals?

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>>173344331
>>173342064

there is a better way

>>173344473
they might be isolationist or something.

>>173344736
>simcity
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>173344874
it's the best

>>173344473
having a mutual threat, trading and speccing into diplomacy

>>173344998
take your shitty bait and get >>>/out/

Favorite ship graphic (stellaris) ?

I prefer Reptilian

>>173345065
it's not bait, it's the truth

>>173345091
avian

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>>173344736
>not playing the true patrician's underrated city builder

you are like a little baby

>>173345091
UNSC ships from Sins of the Prophets mod.

>>173344738
Nope, they're erudite explorers and we get along swimmingly.

>>173345012
Mutual threat doesn't seem possible since there's no one else really around, I did some trading earlier but as far as I could tell that only bumps trust which is already at 100 which appears to be max for defensive pact, and I've already completely maxed out the diplomacy perk tree.

>>173345212
societies was really not that good though

aggressors can just white peace out of wars? that some shit

>>173345294
hover the mouse over erudite and check the text.

Is the hyperlanes only way of playing still fun after the nerfs? Or should you just go warp only?

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>>173344736
>>173345212
Truly the best cannot be forgotten

>>173345364
It's fun to roleplay and play through the different societies a few times, the cities really do feel very different depending on how you build them.

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>>173345693
>zero gameplay screenshot simulator
>best

>>173345268
Nice, looks pretty good. Does the mod give you these ships as extra option or does it change mammalian ships into these or something?

>>173345640
they nerfed hyperlanes? when? I don't see anything in the patch notes.

>>173337392
>Spiritualist changes bombardment?
It doesn't.
Only militarists can take the Full Bombardment policy.

>>173345887
Its an extra shipset, mammalians are untouched.

>>173345907
Back in october (can't warp from inside the system).

So as fanatic purifier what do I want to do in a war demand - ask to cleanse colones and cede capital?

>>173346157
oh okay, the only reason I've seen not to do hyperlanes only is that the AI has no idea how to use choke points or route effectively

>>173345268
Does it work with Utopia though?

>>173346380
it should unless PDX specifically changed some code in how ship model packs work

>>173346283
>trusting the cleansing of worlds to the xenos
Cede all planets and terminate with extreme prejudice

>>173344736
>New SimCity
>Urban planners
Why.
Even SC4 and its grid is better for this.

>>173347310
no it isn't

you should try reading the article because I think it really captures why SC'13 is better than any other city builder, with maybe 2000 coming a close second.

>>173347420
>SC13
>better than anything
Anon. I'm not sure I'd rate it better than getting kicked in the balls.

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Been going pretty strong with these guys. My Authoritarian faction was unhappy that I had no caste system of any kind, and the Xenophile faction was unhappy since I had no aliens. Refugees arrived and I made them second-class citizens (no leaders). Now both of the factions are happy.

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>>173347420
>urban planning in a game with non-simulated inflated pops stats and fixed tiny zone maps with huge empty space between and retarded meme crime

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Fanatic Materialist + Militarist or,
Fanatic Materialist + Xenophobe?

I wanna play semi-tall, I don't want filthy aliens in my empire (except the few I may deem worthy)?

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>>173334637
>Finally get some destroyers
>1st war
>Every single missile barrage from their Spaceport takes down one of my ships
>Get the Spaceport to 300 HP then my fleet is finally destroyed

Is Point Defense 100% useless? Should I just focus on Plasma Destroyers to melt the Spaceport armor?

>>173347630
enduring is meh trait and you should pick something else

>>173347795
Quick learners? Full on intelligent? Happiness?

>>173347728
can't play xenophobe when you have obama pictures saved on your computer, anon.

>>173347760
Destroyers with large kinetics can take out spaceports from beyond the spaceports maximum range

What's a good race to make if I'm fairly noobie? (Total playtime around 10 hours but just got Utopia)

>>173347874
>not realizing Obama was a plant for a shadow council with greater plans for human enslavement

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>>173347795
Fuck off it's muh roleplay. Elves have got long lives.

Also I settled here.

>>173347905
sounds like it would take forever due to how much armor it has, but thanks for the tip.

I guess I have to split up my corvettes and destroyers in two separate fleets, then

>>173347978
What the fuck is that?

Doesn't utopia have any new default species? I just get all the old ones. I'm on a completely fresh install.

>>173347939
there's only one good race, anon

>>173347905
They fixed all ships always running into melee?

>>173348131
Nope

>>173348120
Enigmatic Fortress

>>173348120
Enigmatic Fortress

>>173348190
Heh, I thought they'd implement stuff like the species they used to showcase the hivemind. I guess I'll make my own then.

>>173348178
well what is it senpai

>>173348120
Enigmatic Fortress

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>>173347795
>Not making enduring give 30+ years and venerable 90+
>Not setting venerable's price to 3
I'm confused at to why these traits got nerfed so hard in the first place considering that talented got its price reduced to 1. I enjoy having immortal leaders.

>>173347673
>abloobloo it has actual gameplay how can I take my screenshots now

>>173348120
Enigmatic Fortress.

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>>173348312

>>173339940
I already told you that I won most of my games pre-imp, but you've only been repeating "NO I AM RIGHT", so I'm kinda tired of arguing, especially in a game like AoE2 were developping is crucial and early harassment usually wins you the game.

>>173348120
Enigmatic Fortress.

>>173348390
So Xenophobe + Fanatic Purifier and what else?

>>173348390
But Trump isn't a nazi.

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>>173348536
you're thinking of the wrong Trump

>>173347760
if you're at plasma already you should be able to out DPS a spaceport with whatever you have.
Point defense is very important and works really well, to the point that it makes all missile builds completely unviable. But against a bigger target that does large damage against one unit at a time you don't play defensive, you get in close and dog him down quick.
Point defense is wasted DPS there.

Just noticed that borders and empire colors/emblems don't show up.
Anyone know how to fix this shit

>>173347868
int or happiness, or just remove slow breeders

quick learning is a meme trait aswell

>>173347978
add with console then

>>173347630
>not writing a bio for every new race you build
Shiggydigdog

>>173348435
have you also done so against an enemy that is actually able to defend itself and not just ez AI?

>>173348120
Big guy

>>173348120
Mysterious stronghold

>>173348120
Unknow Castle

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About to start my second game, this time actually having a clue about what I'm doing.

Best galaxy shape?

Empires spawning in clusters or randomly?

>>173348120
Cryptic Citadel

What's the easiest way to pirate Stellaris DLCs?

What the fuck does ruler skill level do?

Is the Philosopher king civic useful together with materialist/militarist?

>>173349912
Warp only/Spiral galaxy or Hyperlane only with Elliptic

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>Warred with my Xenophobic neighbors early on
>Militaristic so it's k.
>Run out of targets
>My side of the galaxy has huge space for me to expand on as long as I keep out of the Xenophobic FE's way
>Pacificism is apparently a large growing faction in my empire
>Apparently have 'been at peace' for too long.
>Still the second biggest faction even after suppressing it
Politics suck.

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>"Once again, an amazing update from the amazing Paradox team!"
>agree x251
>"Purge should be by pop, not by species"
>respectfully disagree x18

>>173350465
I can't think of a reason why you'd purge just one pop. Especially since it makes ALL the pops of that species unhappy.

>>173350365
to pirate them alongside the base game

>>173350465
I think nobody in paracuck HQ play any 'bad' ethics - not even testers.

>>173350465
but anon, people would only purge black people!

>>173350565
Where can I get the DLCs from? I have the base game already

>>173350402
>not wormholes only

>>173350712
On the internet, anon.

>>173350712
I gave you the easiest way, bro

>>173350548
because there's no other ways to get rid of them

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>>173350402
>materialist
>Philosopher King

Are these threads alive again?

>20 dollar DLC
>base game is only 40 dollars

Bravo parakikes

>>173349534
N... YES!

>>173350940
His philosophy is that he really likes his vidya

>>173350548
Collectivists purge or enslave dissidents of any species.

>>173348120
Perplexing Redoubt

Beta 1.5.1 update is out

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/beta-patch-1-5-1-banks-released-not-for-problem-reports.1010281/

>>173350587
>implying paradox has testers
They just play their own shit in multiplayer and design the game around their parties.

YESSSS MY DLC FINALLY WORKS
THANK YOU >>173275165

As fanatic purifier with Armageddon option do I still have to build assault armies?

>>173350402
>warp
>not wormhole

Faggot

>>173352027
Someone here mentioned that Armageddon option was just a step above Full bombardment. So probably.

ok so I /think/ I figured out how to play as a militaristic big guy
you're supposed to go for syncretic evo and pick every -growth time trait available. after that it's just become the bully

>>173352027
What you expect something cool like exterminatus?
What are you a nazi?

So apparently the AI don't know that you can't just destroy the Unbidden's portal now. They keep rushing it, and neglecting to deal with the stations which now cover nearly half the galaxy and are currently absorbing the awakened empire that previously had been doing such a good job keeping them in check.

I think this is game over. It's partly my fault because I hadn't been expanding my fleet as aggressively, but this wouldn't have happened if the AI knew how the fucking game worked.

>>173350548
Can't even purge robots to abandon a planet.

Requires me to ban AI and purge all robots in my empire.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCKING SQUIDS MAKE A FEDERATION WITH ME YOU FUCKERS AAAAAAAAAAA

do habitats work the same way planets do when it comes to science increase?

>>173352536
Just spam cheapest corvette double or triple navy limit and flood enemy with ships.
They are cheap to produce, cheap to upkeep, still have the same HP as high tech and if you bring 4 vs 1 firepower do not matter much (you still can easily get 2 or 3 times over advanced ones)
Ignore all components research you will get it for free from enemies.
Build mines and energy stations and swarm galaxy.

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>>173350465
>>173350548
Why can't you you do both. What if you want to purge a planet.

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Neat. This is new.

Wonder what the result will be.

Create synths? Jumpstart AI research?

>>173352835
Can't terraform planet that have pops on it.
Why paradox hate fun?

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>>173353046
The inability to terraform populated planets is something that angers me, it was my favorite strategy in earlier versions of stellaris to "colonize" a planet with droids who'd build the colony infrastructure while the planet was being terraformed. It made sense. And they took that away.

>>173353014
Do it and let us know

>>173350465
the fact that they felt the need to add "respectfully" should've told you all you needed to know.

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Help

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>tfw you can scroll again after 7 years
stellaris might be fun now

>>173352971
That would've been the smart thing to do. Let the player individually remove a pop, maybe if they have a different ethic than your empire, or have a global remove button if they didn't want the species at all.

>>173353435
Paradox loves to take things away from you.
You liked Embassies? Fuck you.
You liked terraforming? Fuck you.

>>173353435
There should be mod somewhere geoengineering or something. Wonder if AI can use it.

Why they just not port mechanics form CK, EU or viki?
They have no idea what they doing regardless.

>>173353732
>Why they just not port mechanics form CK, EU or viki?
This is the question we are ALL wondering.

>>173353646
i guess we can't expect paradox to do the smart thing

can you do a 5 world playthrough now?

So, for Stellaris, is it safe to assume there will sooner or later be an intrigue DLC that will add spying and possibility to fuck with relations between other empires?

>>173353821
Why people buy their stuff?

>>173353642
Is that a Razer Lachesis?

>>173353921
Give it a year or two.

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>>173353921
>safe
The only safe option is assume that they will remove some working mechanics and add 3 new that somewhat do not work like they should or at all.

>>173353979
It sure is, have had for 7 years! Don't really hear of anyone using them.

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>wipe out enemy starport
>lose 4 warscore
Thanks, Obama

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>>173353458
>>173353014
1) Free colony on random world with 3 droids, part of empire.
2) End quest
3) End quest +200 minerals.

I had robot and droid tech, no synth tech. Also had most of the genetic engineering tech but none of the genetic ascension perks. Worth it in any event.

is there a 2,000+ star mod working for Utopia right now?

>>173344331

omg the nostalgia just hit me hard

best game ever

>>173354149
I'd kill a man to get another one of those, brand new in its box. All I can find is used, not too hot on that. Why would anyone let go of such a mouse? Has to be broken or something.

>>173354487
Really? I expected them to be pretty similar to Deathadders or whatever they've been pushing out all these years. Lightweight and all.

I remember enjoying sending large fleets star system to star system in Star Wars: Empire at War. Is Stellaris kind of like that but deeper, with planet management, and instead of ground battles you have just space battles?

>>173354825
It doesn't have the real time combat aspect, just sending stacks of units and hoping they win. So it's kinda like Empire at War if you just auto resolved everything

>Hit ratio
>Explosives
>>Large fusion missiles 100%
Does this mean the PD doesn't work?
During the battles I saw that ratio as low as 50% but in the AAR, it's 100%, which one do I trust?

>>173354960
Pft please, EaW's auto resolve was just completely fucked.
Also Stellaris lets you intervene and drop in additional troops, which is impossible with EaW's system.
Space battles are way more satisfying in EaW, though.

>>173354225
Neat. Thanks, anon

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>>173350465
>tfw playing mighty Red empire
>just days ago when the peace rallies arrived gaurds took them to the street to be shot like pigs with warnings to those who thought they could dissent and gain religious ideas
>such was life in NeoStalingrad
>Suddenly the guards disappear...
>large guilds and factions formed overnight ruling from behind the scenes...
>no matter how much they ran country into ground they kept blaming it on old Red's days
>Beings of pure light where found on the edge of an enemies borders
>there was no escape, no hope, only death
>after devouring a planet and tearing our sworn capitalist enemy a new asshole, a hand of friendship was extended by the guilds, this was obviously some miracle
>The beings ate the hand, the ship and the entire planet that extended good will
>the guilds panicked the most prestigious members loading private ships to colonize and hide on brighter sides of the galaxy as true patriots fought for the land they where born on
>we did not last long...
>but they paid for every inch...
>and such is the tale of small country in a far away galaxy, that bled for the guilds...

>>173355306
>Space battles are way more satisfying in EaW, though.
Really? Why? That's actually why I asked. I know space based mechanics of EaW are very shallow but I nonetheless remember them being very satisfying.

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>load in my save
>grey main screen
>can't do anything

>try a new game
>same thing

I don't even use any mods. What the fuck?

should i rush planetary survey corps at the start or go with the expansion tradition?

>>173352701
? I asked which route is more efficient what are you talking about - I went with cede / let auto-purge do its thing - it's cheaper that way war-score wise. I can kill more.

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>>173355995
verify cache, if that fails uninstall and reinstall

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>>173356167

>>173350465
Told you that Authoritarian isn't going to get fixed.

>>173355906
Yeah, much more satisfying.
Also the hardpoints system was a good thing. And well, EaW's battles work like an RTS or RT tactics game. In Stellaris, your fleets are just pretty graphics, you don't get to order this and that ship to focus fire on this enemy. And there isn't much variance, if you save before a battle, you've good odds to get the same results over and and over again.

Though honestly I never played EaW without mods, probably increased my enjoyment a buttload.

Are achievements broken? I've just won my first war and I have uplifted a species before and I don't have the achievement for either. Yes, I am on ironman.

>>173345091
Reptilian is GOAT, reminds me of Homeworld, much better than BOXES aesthetic of Mammalian.

>>173356420
I did verify cache, but that didn't fix it.

What fixed it was mashing "go to" for some reason. No idea why the issue existed on a new game too though.

Also my empire changed colour from grange to green until I reloaded my save.

>>173356501
Yeah, they are, but rumour on the pdx forums is that they'll be retroactively awarded. Probably just fanboyism though, also they're not even fixing it in 1.5.1 either.

>>173356763
>grange

Orange*

I embraced a faction but now every other faction is mad at me forever (120 months don't tick down.)

Thanks Paraboma.

>infinity machine right next to me
yay!
>dreadnaught a few star systems to the south
panic.exe

Can you take down a world in the early game with just corvettes? Another guy spawned way too close.

>>173357341
Does the dreadnought do anything else than just defend itself until you can defeat and restore it?

The star eating beast now, that's something else...

>>173357704
Spaceport will fuck you up

>>173356996
>120 months don't tick down.)
Yeah same here, fucking Paradox

>win war
>i selected liberate instead of cede planet
>ironman
fuck

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What did they mean by this?

Why didn't they give us Exterminatus as an option for fanatical purifier? And hell, why didn't they have a Death Star-like megastructure? I want to be able to blow up planets goddamnit

>>173358225
Do you need it right now? You can just integrate it after a few years/

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>>173358610
they mean things are about to get wild

>>173358610
There should be a "YIFF IN HELL" response

>>173358610
someone previously touched their fluffy tail in a wrong way

>>173358634
the engine probably doesn't support deleting planets at all

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>>173358610
>say that to my face not online fucker

>>173358849
It does, though. Creation of a ringworld destroys all the planets in the system.

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So I just watched the full Starfish lets play with Wiz and Nobunaga. And Wiz explained that they take all the feed back from player and put into seperate 'boxes' then work exclusively on one of those boxes based on what they think is most important. In the case of Utopia, that 'box' was empire customization

So my question is this: was anyone actually complaining about empire customization?

Been playing since day 1 and the major complains I've seen have always been

>Fucking War score
>Fucking fleet combat
>Fucking Diplomacy

Or am I mistaken?

Do pirated DLCs work if you only have the base game, like the other Paradox games?

Read somewhere that it didn't. Pirating mods is a pain in the ass, and since it's off I'd thought I'd buy it

>>173359153
I'm just mad that they made it impossible to purge or enslave individual pops. Collectivists are unplayable now.

>>173351790
can you link me the rezmar dl? cant find it myself

how the hell do you pirate leviathans dlc ive been trying for an hour with no luck

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Am I supposed to ignore the fleet cap?

I keep trying to make war on similar nations with similar pops and planets and they are able to field fleets three times bigger than my own no problem. I've been stopping at the 15-20 ish for early game because thats fleet cap and I just cant compete

>>173358879
Wish I could find a fluffy butterfly Militant Isolationist or Fanatical Purifier.

>>173355012
Did they have point defense?
It lists things shot down by point defense in the battle results screen.
Presumably 100% of those that got through PD hit.

>>173359762
Build more ports.

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>>173359762
Yes.
Ignore shields, armor and fancy stuff.
Cheap ship=low maintenance
HP is the same as a firepower.
You can easily go 2x or 3x over limit with cheap shit corvette

>>173359153
>>173359284

Yeah seriously. Re implement that feature! There's no way to be asshole tyrants who purge/enslave any populations with different ethics or whatever.

It's like paradox always goes 3 steps forward, but one step to a side nobody wanted them to. Jump straight ahead, dammit.

How can missiles be made viable?

>>173359594
>>173359617
I'll reupload it onto mega.

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>>173359594
scratch that i found it; http://www19.zippyshare.com/v/yjKoILir/file.html

but now my problem is that not all the dlc is there;

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>>173360180
A HERO.

>>173360221
thanks bby just hit me with that link

>>173360141
I dont understand this image.

>>173360235
for steamfix what folder is it talking about

>>173360625
the main folder where the .exe is

Are there any good static maps or scenarios for Stellaris? I want something more like an EU4 or CK2 map to start with.

>>173360221
>increase speed
>increase damage
>lower range
Make it high damage, low range weapon.
With low range and high speed things like over kill will decrease - less missiles in air - less lost dps when target is destroyed as they not redirect
>increase damage vs shields and armor penetration
>make PD systems take a attachment slot and be short range - personal defense

>>173360391
Upkeep cost is % of production cost
So costly corvette(capitalist one) with all this fancy gadgets and shields cost 2x to produce and upkeep than Soviet ones with no shields.
Soviet one have the same HP and firepower so you can produce two times more for the same price and gain 2x firepower and the the same durability(2x Hp but no shields).
SyS Def Corvette have all cheapest stuff inside but cost 4 times less and you still have the same HP and similar(little less) firepower.
You can easily build 2x SyS Def over fancy Capitalist corvettes for half the price and pay the same upkeep at 200% of navy limit

>>173360837
Okay, let me explain you something.
Remember anything good or fun in CK2 or EU4 that you liked? Well, forget them when you play Stellaris.

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M-Multiplayer?

>>173360345
Turns out it was already uploaded by >>173360235

>Hive Minds are half assed shit
>Synthetic Evolution is half assed shit

welp

>>173360979
Speed or re-targetting(probably hard to implement) would fix the overkill issue yeah.
damage is okay, maybe a little more, better immunity to PD so that PD is a partial reduction rather than total protection
lower range is stupid, goes against the theme of missiles and their current strength(along with "countering" evasion tanking)

>>173361128
Hive minds are an okay game function, just like with everything else in the game there are no opportunities to roleplay your nation.

>>173361128
>Stellaris is half assed shit
ftfy

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>>173361128
During one of the intervew with Topknot and Dev Guy #112, the comment was made that Wiz was pretty much wholly responsible for Hiveminds.

Its an okay play style if you just want to invade and purge. The best at it infact. But its not good for much else and the events aren't really designed with it in mind

>>173361416
>paracuck is half-assing shit
FIXED

Did they remove the flavor responses?

>>173361128
find me 1 thing that isnt half assed shit.
they cant even makea fucking ui window work right

>>173361643
>find me 1 thing that isnt half assed shit.
The neutral ayyys.

>>173361643
The Shroud is kinda neat I guess

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>>173361471
>Its an okay play style if you just want to invade and purge.
But you have fanatical purifiers for that.

>>173360109
No, I expected it to work without modules, of course!
All my destroyers had sentinel II PD thingies. Visually, missiles were shot down.

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oh shit i knew this was too good to be true

>>173362190
Hive minds are better at it in every regard.

Did they do something to the Unbidden? They just send stacks after stacks of 60k, something several at times, and they have fucking THREE of them sat on the portal that never go away.
This is not even funny at this point

>>173345091
warhammer 40k ships

>>173345091
I like the Homestuck ones.

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[oscillates internally]

>>173344310
>TFW no pig aliens
There are though.

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Oh boy, never played this game before but here I go!

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>>173363975

Pretty scary teebeehach.

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Do you guys max out your colonies rightaway or wait around until you get terraforming?
Not sure if should go for shit world right here just to contest space because I'm not gonna see the technology for a long time, I think?

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>>173364220
"Activate it."

How do you get influence? And how do you know when to get rid of Outposts, this really seems to piss me off.

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>>173364726
boom bitch

sit the fuck down

>Mineral silos no longer give +2 for adjustancy meaning they're worthless to build again
>On top of being planet unique now
What the fuck?

>>173364906
>How do you get influence?
By researching government techs in society or by declaring rivalries with other empires

>how do you know when to get rid of Outposts
You should notice your borders shrink and have your influence/energy production back up.

>>173364220
It'd actually be pretty cool if borders had an area of overlap that created a disputed zone.

>>173364906
You can get quite a lot of influence from keeping factions happy. In one playthrough I was getting +5 from one.

>>173365369
Or if it was an agreed upon neutral zone after a war.

>>173348120
Puzzling Palisade

>>173365369
>>173365476
Of if you could demand/trade/give border space

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>spend 2 hours in the creator making new species/empires
>turn game off

>>173353636
triggered

Is there anyway to delete / kill pop by clicking - writing kill_pop all the time is tiring.

>>173365698
You can't kill individual pops legitimately anymore.

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100 years in. Colonized one of the arms of the galaxy. I think I'm doing alright, though I need to invest more heavily into the military. Found Sol and the UN humans, they've had a hard time with an advanced alien empire who built around them.

I'm friendly with that advanced empire, "Mandate of Pelisi" and I don't feel the need to declare war on them just to link up the two human empires. Beyond that I don't like how my empire is long and thin - going halfway around the galaxy, with alien empires blocking my way inside the galactic core and leaving me with the stars on the periphery of the galaxy.

Also found out that you need Zero-Point Power and Fortress tech to unlock Megastructures, would have been nice to know.

>>173365604
This is me

>>173365782
Did they give a reason for this unwanted change?

>>173365803
Go all the way around, encircle those interior plebs

>>173365803
>Zero-Point Power and Fortress tech to unlock Megastructures
I didn't know about that second part. Good to know. Though at that point I can't see you NEEDING Megastructures.

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Did paracucks promise to fix so there is no empires of the same color?
Also awe on my military ~400 cheapest corvettes possible with 1st generation reactors, no shields and basic railguns.
They beat anything they fight. And I can bring x times more of them than any enemy.
Also two alien planets incorporated are getting empty because resident aliens who are close to 90 happiness keep emigrating to empires that do not even share the same biome. Even if I do not allow migration.
WTF.

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>>173365604
>spend weeks writing multiple books that are about the new species/empires background
>don't even own the game

>>173365910
Muh micromanagement probably.

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>Playing all hyperlanes
>Have a coalition of absolute cock hole evangelizing zealots and hegemonic imperialists forever trying to 1 v 4 me
>They have to cross one specific sector to get me so I have it loaded with as many bases as possible

Whats the bets loadout for a fortress? Any carriers actually any good?