/svg/ Shadowverse General

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>>173098681
The most important part of Tempest.

>>173098551
I actually would be thankful to the artist for his contribution. He made me hate luna,eris and forte so much to the point where I dont use them anymore.
Thanks whoever was so autistic to draw them!

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Play Havencraft.

Why won't you come to me Sibyl?

>casters cant howl lethal

Holy shit these casters are a joke.

>>173098704
I have 1 Albert but I get killed before I can even use him

HAHA
YOU GONNA MESS WITH ME?

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Posting this artist for that anon.

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Another shadow win

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Are you guys memeing sword to get some good cards at the GBF expansion?
Dragon had
>jo dragon
>wizard dragon
>satan ramp
>water dragon
>evolve dragon
>ptp dragon
>discard dragon
>concede dragon

And sword have?
>frog
>cannon
>commander

>>173098851
you asked for it though...

Damn that sideboob

>>173098951
>>173098958
>durr hurr that top deck is bad
>already had lethal in hand

Really painful when they're this bad.

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Who is /ourguy/?

>roach Luna from 20hp
>Sugoi! Sugoi!

>roach Dragon from 20hp
>Waiting 80 seconds...

This is the difference between Shadow and Dragon players.

Were dragon and shadow expected to dominate the early weeks?

>>173099057
the forestfag

>>173099091
I think we expected Blood and Shadow.

>>173099091
/svg/ expected nothing from dragon

>>173098998
That piece of picasso doesn't even make sense.

>>173099091
Yes, but people also thought blood was going to dominate as well. The developers said they focused on blood, dragon and shadow for this expansion.

>>173099057

Either one is fine since they actually play good unless those MS clowns and other shitters who lucked into the top 16 with a single elim format

>>173098958
>shadow takes more skill than dragon
HA

Where the fuck are my aegis freind to deal with the other crafts

>>173099091
>>173099160
>shadow
>expected to dominate

Pretty sure it's blood and dragon because banishblast and all the cool gadgets Blood gets.

>>173099091
I think everyone underrated the new cards and people were thinking sword was sitll going to be top dog.

>>173099057
POTWASHER
CANT BELIEVE IM CHEERING FOR ELF

>Mango A FUCKING LEAF

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>3 cards on the field
>orthrus still hit my frog

>>173099283

No, before release /svg/ thought that Sybil was a bad card for ramping and that Ouroboros was bad. Check the archive, /sv/g thought dragon was,mediocre at best.

>>173099091

People expected both sneks to be good. While 3/4 of /svg/ was laughing at Luna getting fucked.

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>>173098874
Agreed

>>173099353
get fucked pepecuck

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>get early ramp
>opponent concedes
what a stupid deck, nerfs when?

>>173099160
>>173099201

>blood
>print ezvengeance, sneks of fill board
>people prefer to run without it anyway

So until the meta stabilize or it gets a netdeck that can abuse shit, blood will go unga and mid?

>>173098681
I need tips on how to deal with new dragon as aggro.

>inb4 just kill them

Doesn't work, you need a perfect hand now in order to get the damage necessary against it's heals and removal, and that's assuming they don't get a good hand to easily stop you.

Is all aggro besides Shadow dead right now? Sword and Blood are both losing left and right to new dragon almost all the time, and has a lot of the same problems vs haven.

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Snowman new meta.

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>3 boohamut

I want to play Rune's HUGE golem but I need more two copies,. This is Eidolon all over against

>>173099423
After Blast everyone started spamming that Dragon would be tier 1.

>>173099423
And when Lightning Blast was leaked, everyone were not happy with Dragon getting a big removal and announced the death of Nep.

>>173099483
I think unga bats should tech in medusa gaze and other assorted bane if they want to pierce through 2/3 man and rehab.

0pp forest spell

Increase your card play count by 2. You can only play one card this turn.

Yay or Nay?

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>this fucking hand

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>>173099353
How much does this image trigger you right now?

>>173099160
>every single thread before release was dragonfags shitposting "shadow is dead!" and "say goodbye to luna!" while masturbating over lightning blast

>>173099554
*again
TOS brought some interesting things for rune.

ONE CARD TOO LTAE

>>173099646
kys

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>NA scene

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>>173098874
>>173099435
Tempest of the Armpits

>>173099657
And it still wasn't enough

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>those sibyl heals

Shadow pedos on suicide watch

AAAAAAHHHH NOOO

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I need a concession. Please, help a fellow anon out!

65430

Damn that was undeserved win.

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>sit helpless as they just heal out of range over 2 turns
>then get Howl

Sybil is fucking retarded

>>173099160
>>173099091
>shadow ever being hyped

Any talk about thane and eachtar was literally shot down with "7PP do nothing in removalverse".

Funny how much that has changed.

>>173098681
That stupid Silver Amulet Forest has is so annoying when playing Aggro. Gee it just stops you so much.

Why is control not allowed to exist in this game?
Everything is fucking storm. Even if you wanted to do things differently, you lose to Aegis now if the top end your deck doesn't have storm all over it. Dragon can afford to play some non storm expensive creatures because of ramp but that's it.
You pretty much cannot control a game, there are too many unanswerable threats.

This is pretty shit, even on hearthstone you can play control.

>>173099663
how did you manage to screenshot that at such a perfect frame

>>173099473
The problem with Dragon is just that it's too damn consistent in the early game now.

You either get lots of ramp to speed you to late game, or lots of healing/removal to make sure you reach late game. If not fucking both.

They also have a ton of tech, and nuetral cards almost seem handmade for them with shit like Grimnir, Unica, Saha and Arriet. Top that off with the literal best late board clear in the game in lightning blast and early wave clear with Breath and Bahamut (since he usually gets dropped on turn 8) and it's the perfect control deck.

And here I though Haven was supposed to be the healcraft. It's almost impossible to rush Dragon down now unless they completely brick.

YES I'M MAD

>>173099875
>maneater seeing play
Now that's sight to beholden.

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>>173099824
>underserved win on a fucking card game

okay so

we all agree that ouroboros having his recursion locked behind evo would actually make him balanced right

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>>173099674
>shadow kills them before they can even use it
I love this 4D level of irony

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>playing shadowcraft
>run into forest player on ladder
>he has 3x robin hood in his deck to kill the skellies
>wreck his face with zombie party and eachtar
Robin hood is pretty cool. Shame he's just not that good.

>>173099875
Silver amulet?

>perfect shadow curve
>forest player bricks
This game really is a coinflip sim.

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>>173099674
I think it's more funny how Luna is the only one keeping Rowen's WR at 50%

>>173099882
Do you know what beats Aegis? I lost to some Sword cuck in t2. Guess what card did it for him?

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Goodnight bloodkins

blood is secretely the worst craft again fufufu

>>173100046
Eat your fucking cornflakes Barry.

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>>173099663
anon its his frog not anyone else my dear

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>>173100046
No.

2 mainyu 3 reno or 3 mainyi 2 reno?

>>173100046
He would've been completely uselees.

>>173100092
>bullying new players
You are scum

>>173100125
No it isn't. KYS

>>173099882
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZECEG4ks68

watch this video and die bored

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This is Lou, say something mean to her.

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Can someone please tell me where she fits in a deck.Is she any good at all?

>>173099483

In Bloodcraft aggro the new 6mana 3dmg+3/3 is fucking amazing since it clears Grimnir.
Mastema is great right now since really uncomfortable to deal with right now since no one's packing DoD anymore. Also Dragon doesn't wanna suicide their Lucifers and Bahamuts into an 8/8 bane, and if they banish it with the new spell you'll probably have a big board backing her ready to deal mass damage. Doesn't dies to Salamander, so either her or the rest of the board are gonna smack Rowen in the next turn for a lot.
Soul Dominator's also great. Trade bats into the wards and she becomes huge. Ez 8+damage storm turn 7.

Almost never clear the Aiela. DoD the Sybil.

>>173099984
Yeah, it just kept beating down my wolfs and bats, it was horrible.

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i should craft 3 of this guy?

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>>173100275

>>173100261
>80hp

Instantly closed

>>173100174
3 and 3.

>>173100125
>secretly

Which card has the most sultry voice, and why is it Belphegor?

>>173100174
3 Mainyu. Clash effects hardly activate unless you evolve especially early in the game. I'm assuming you're playing Storm and would rather save evolves for something other than Reno too.

>>173100292
She'd be fucking amazing if she wasn't a control card in lightningverse

>>173100125
sleep well vampvania

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/svg/ told me Thane was a bad card

So why is turn 6 sneks bad when it probably only loses to Haven and dirt rune?

>>173100275
I want to go to whatever SUGOI MAHOU school she's in. It looks fun.

>>173100386
i see, ty

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>>173100292
She'll fit into a control deck. But her time is not now. Don't dust her, she is going to be good in the future, I guarantee it.

>>173099882
What exactly is "control" to you?

>>173100261
That's actually pretty good as far as mirror matches go.

Mirror matches are innately boring.

>>173100292
Control Sword and some Midrange builds.

>>173100292
I want to sexually corrupt her along with every other swordcraft cutie!

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>>173100341
GURIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMNIR

>>173100412
>things that never happened

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43104 need a win please thank you.

>>173100261
Why are they not losing when they have no cards?

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>>173100432
but anon, they bully freshmen there, make them cry and also they spy on them with flying pink magical eyes

>>173100415
You forgot mutagenic bolt.

Plus letting dragon ramp in peace means it just gets bahamut and blasted

>>173100246
the most viable blood deck atm is just a MR storm aggro deck, which works essentially the same way as aggro blood in DE/ROB and loses to the same things

it's basically aggro blood but 10k or more vials, it's an excellent jewish move on cygames part, seriously, it's masterfully semitic

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>>173099882
Fuck "Control" decks, you are meant to play the game to win, not to extend it for an eternity while you hope that the opponent doesn't get his win con or runs out of resources, imagine every match lasting 15+ minutes, this game would fucking die in less than a week.

>>173100412
>7pp do nothing in removalverse

If you fight against dragon, it will get hit by bahamut or lightning blast.

>Forest cuck

>playing forest in the finals
biggest mistake

How in the fuck do you beat shadow?
>ward
>they play followers that benefit from your fucking wards (lurching, assistant)
>don't ward
>get face raped
>catacomb on top to keep the board full no matter what
This shit needs a fucking nerf. There is 0 counterplay to this stupid fucking class.

>>173100726
>>173100731
There's nothing wrong with Forest. He just bricked hard.

>>173100609
In blizzardverse when you run out of cards, instead of drawing, you take one damage when you draw a card. It's cumulative and you take progressively more damage.

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>>173100415
>implying it doesn't auto-lose to dragon too

Poor forest bricked so hard.

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>>173099901
I waited for it. I knew that I had a snowball's chance in hell of winning that game, so I plopped down Orthrus and had my finger on the button for the off chance that hell froze over and I got to piss someone off so that I could shitpost about it.

>>173100726
>>173100731
found the dragoniggers

>>173100758
No aggro deck plays those cards you mentioned except catacomb

>>173100412
>t7 do nothing just set you up for eachtar lethal next turn :^)

>>173100775
Yeah, forest is shit

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>>173100561

>>173100694

>>173100821
>those 4 subsequent turns of do nothing

Forest will at least be considered tier 2 now, right?

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>>173100605
Thanks Rowen!

>>173100174
Jeanne gonna kill either of them anyway.

>>173100873
yeah he just got to the finals xD

Whats a good aggro Shadow list?

>>173100663
you mean that version with belphegors from game-ai? i am not sure if belphegor is mandatory or even good

>>173100873
>got to the finals with Forest
>Forest is shit
/svg/ is fucking retarded.

>>173100461
>What exactly is "control" to you?
A deck that is more responsive than active, that focuses on disrupting the opponent's gameplan more than advancing its own.

Dragoncraft is __________

>>173100821
>letting dragon ramp in peace
Oh shit Urias what the fuck were you doing.

>>173100780
And they ran out of their entire deck of 40?
What the fuck have they been doing the entire match
Even old ptp would never run out of cards and still win

>>173100969
Copy the winner of today's tourney. It was very high skilled.

>>173100927
Wolfbolt has always been T2

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Rate this tournament.

>>173100821
>using masamune instead of the scyther
you sure are one bright dragon

>>173101079
Tournament is fucking shit.

>>173100927

Forest is good. Will be more good after Dragon gets inevitable nerfs.

>>173101037
Dragoncraft

>>173100849
He's talking about Midrange Shadow, which is the better deck anyways.

>>173100927
only wolf bolt is t2 the rest of the decks are t3 and lower, forest is one of the weaker crafts though and bolt can brick a lot

>>173101081
I use both. I don't use Zell.

>>173100240
This was in masters senpai
If he's made it this far surely he's good enough to get bullied

>>173101052
i think it was t1 at the end of rob with a very good winrate on the ladder and played in literally every tourney, i dunno if any major tourney was won without an elven deck - otk and then wolfbolt

>>173099976
you pretty much hit the nail on the head with that post, it's just insane how much they have going for them and it's becoming harder and harder to brick since they have so many good early game options they can draw.

arriet is pretty underrated and i'm not sure why more people aren't using her. If any of your late game threats live for a single turn then they just die. ouro, lucifer, israfil, and bahamut are all capable of killing the opponent from 20hp with her. i guess everyone is running zell memes instead but I find that I don't need to run forte using her so I end up doing better in the mirror.

>>173101117
That's not a rating.

>>173100758
Forbidden Ritual

>>173100849
catacomb is so good you can throw it in any shadow deck and it can win games

one real reason why blood storm aggro will probably the only good blood deck is because they can't contest for the board against nearly any iteration of shadow, it's just bopping luna's face in and hope they didn't put down any wards, or don't kill you first

>>173100240
He's just trying hard to tech against Shadow like Haven did with Ritual, too bad they do next to nothing against Midrange.

>>173101079
I suck, and even I could potentially win a round or two/10

>>173101134

Bullshit. Aerin tarzan is T2 too.

>>173101169
Its probably because shes in an intense pp slot and a lot of people arent comfortable with the play

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>>173101037
The white mage healing class for no goddamn reason .

>>173101049
It's only 30 in that game.
And control warrior is a highly responsive deck, they run lots of removal and little threats, so probably they just passed over half of those turns without doing anything.

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Here's the neutralcraft deck that the one guy in the tournament had. All the deck lists are in the brackets.

>>173101187
Very well

Shit/10

>>173101037
honest and balanced

sibyl is the most honest card in the game!

>>173100970
aggro storm blood can't function without at least 3 legendaries, either beph or soul memer

it'd instead rely on blood moon alone, which wouldn't let it consistently achieve veng., in which case you'd have to run a more vanilla storm deck with 3x imp lancers and etc

>>173101195
aggro blood has a lot of removal though, especially if it teched in hungry horde but even without it a single demonic storm removes death breath

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>>173100261
>wins a 50/50 coin toss
>HOLY SHIT SUCH GOOD PLAYS
>HE IS A GOD

>>173101051

Got a link?

>>173101261
no only wolf bolt with variations is t2 other forest decks are pretty shitty tarzan in a wolfbolt isn't bad if that's what you mean

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>>173101037
a pain in the ass

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>>173100261
>Game literally decided by RNG 50/50

>>173101195

Blood can contest the board early with Blood Wolf, Razor and Horde. Yeah it hurts a bit if Wolf and Razor aren't going face but it's more important to not let shadow snowball off a strong T3.

You can stabilize after that with Veight and Panty Raider.

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>>173100969
here you go famalam

>>173101037
oppressive

>>173101286
>shadow reaper
>prince catacomb
>cerberus
>demonlord eachtar

no it is not neutralcraft

>>173101373
oh, you mean vengeance blood

that stuff has a worse winrate than ordinary aggro

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>>173101473

>>173101037
Pretty manageable if they don't ramp decently. It's still a tossup, but at least they're not grimniring your board when you're at 6 pp.

>>173101037

Sybil, Grimnir, Ouroboros and Zell was too much of a buff.

Remove one and suddenly Dragon's balanced

>>173101565
You can't deny canon.

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>>173101473

>>173101595

There's so much broken shit that no one even talks about scyther

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>>173101037
broken.

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>>173101473

>>173101401

You have beetle as mini roach, Aerin as mini Olivia with heal and ward and queen healing you from 1 to 20.

Wolfbolt isn't the only forest deck that works.

>>173101710
Dick
Right now

>>173101710
WHOA! You played against rune?

>>173101706
scyther is a seriously good card, fucking mastema with rush srsly?

>>173101673
The only thing canon here is my dick up your ass.

Whens the Street Fighter promo event?

>>173101845
it's the only good forest deck, other forest decks are playable just not good

>>173101980

Then why are people getting 60% win rates with them?

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Is it 2 weeks already?

>>173101710
post rank cuck

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>>173101706
>when scyther actually wins me the game because of that storm

>>173101980

Wolfbolt is at 56.4% win rate now. Generic forest sits at 55.7%.

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>It's another Unica-Aela-Sybil episode

Just fucking wake me up when Dragon gets nerfed, it needed buffs but holy shit this is just too much.

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15056
Need 1 more match to complete the 20

>>173101034
You mean like dragon and haven?

>>173101949
My ass I highly doubt. But the mouth is fine by me.

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>discard dragon win rate is 35%

>>173100292
>that thong

Fucking slut.

>>173102195
Just Black Scripture it bro

Remember when people were mad that Sibyl's pp boost didn't bring it above 10? What would happen if she worked the way those /svg/ posters wanted?

>>173102316
not even that

those exposed armpits are already the mark of a cock addict

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>>173102353
Zell + Bahamut/Israfil combo without Sahaquiel. It's not a 3 card combo anymore.

>>173102057
>that fag who screencaps shit with the dark 4chan background who is always wrong

I remember when you screencapped a post saying that sword was going to remain strong until the end of RoB as if they were wrong. Stop posting screencaps you faggot.

>>173102353
an amazing strong card would have been broken

>>173102203
Thank you Vampy

>>173102480
>japanese girl
>no hair

???

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>>173101858
i only have 1 isra, 1 ouro, and 2 rahabs or i'd be using more.

>>173102169

B-but /svg/ said forest was a dead class and everyone crying for dragon to be nerf were forestbabs

Has the frog sword deck ever actually worked for anyone? There's no way it has even close to 50% win rate.

>Yet another Seraph deck
>Haven does nothing but stall until they can play their "I win :^)" bull shit

When will shit finally end?

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Tfw i can't dust my Lord of the flies,animated Minthe,or Ginger cause they're too nice to look at.

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>>173102479
you seem upset anon are you that anon that got screen capped?

>>173102596
I wish everybody just played high IQ aggro decks. Control literally takes no skill and is no fun to play as or against.

>>173102593

How about you actually play it

>>173102596
>he actually faced a seraph
consider yourself lucky

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>>173102057
i was at 0 mp when i started because i lost all of them trying to make aegis and csword work.

>>173101970
Everyday i wake up and ask this, i just want to play bison instead of a tiny girl

>>173102582
Forest is pretty weak right now, not like rune dead, but it's also by far the least popular class right now at around 6% play rate.

>>173102480
I want to sniff Ginger's surprisingly thick thighs!

>>173102653
Do you save the screencaps where you are wrong or do you delete them in shame? That's got to be a lot of deleted screencaps at this point.

>>173102209
Dragon runs little disruption, they follow a clear gameplan, ramp up quickly and play fat gamewinning minions.
Haven runs more answers but every deck is still very focused on their win condition. Every haven deck is named after their win condition.

>>173102532
she's not japanese?

>>173102479
I screen capped that fag because he thinks sword forest and rune would still be top 3

>>173102480
Any easy was to mod card art?

>>173102551
what the fuck this is all over the place

>>173102480
>can't fuck it
What's the point

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I legitimately feel bad when I kill Pepo with Orthrus and the sword just concedes.

>>173102480
Ginger should wield my dick!

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Why would anyone subject themselves to the snek meme

Do they have fun suffering

>>173103112
You should feel bad for playing disgusting cancer, yes.

>>173103112
>feeling bad about playing an understatted follower to kill a meme

Then you had games in T2 where you couldn't do a thing against that darn frog.

>>173100731
>3rd best deck
>why are you playing it?????

moron

Need a private match win, but you don't have to concede. Genuinely new at the game.
45078

Thanks.

WHO STILL PLAYS ODIN REEEEEEEEEE

>>173102713
I just faced three Elana's players in a row. It's so fucking exhausting having all of your work invalidated just because you can't rush them down quick enough.

>>173100275
>protagonist seat
Oh shit.

>>173103207
The deck is not consistent but it's really fun if you like wild swings in game state. I think people are playing soul dealer belph mid range for similar thrills. I find that you either win big or lose big with those decks and it makes me rock hard

>>173103353
It's not a classroom, anon...

>>173103234

Is Eachtar officially cancer now?

They have to nerf Grimnir right?

>>173103424
>7pp do nothing
>cancer

You gotta be kidding me.

>>173103505
No, not really.

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Forest bros I need help!
I've been trying a wolfbolt deck with Queen and the new elf gold which heals for 3. I pretty much auto lose to Dragon. I know my skill probably factors to this but is there any tips you guys have when facing dragon?

Lets give 9 board clear to the ramp class.... That why you dont nuke a country twice ...

>>173103112
Orthrus is another card that most people here said sucked and was just a budget Cerberus for those without

>>173103368
I was thinking of crafting some belphegors to play such a meme

The only thing stopping me is I like winning more than memeing.

>>173103537
>7pp buff your cancer irremovable board
YOU gotta be kidding me.

>>173103537
this x pp do nothing meme has to fucking stop

>>173103546
git gud

>>173103643
ur favorite card is an x pp do nothing

>>173103643
Do nothing is fine and a valid complaint. Retards just keep saying it about cards that do something.

>>173103615
Belph isn't a meme
http://game-ai.jp/28961/

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>Go on an all day tilt as stormhaven

I really need another deck

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>need Haven daily
>only have Seraph
>4 Dragon with double Lightning Breath in a row

>>173103637
>>173103643
>7pp without storm
>they just lightning blast it
>not do nothing

Stay mad.

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This card puts my cock in vengeance

I need some help, just concede is okay

25090

>>173103648
t-thanks...

>>173103505
They'll rationalize that it's okay because everyone can use him.

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>there are those who complain about eachtar when Walfrid exists

Permament +2/+2 (and ward) >>>>>> one turn +2/+0.

>>173103009
>fucking a chick that is behind 2 bahamuts and 2 gods of thunder

Good fucking luck

>>173103829
This happened to me earlier.
Playing Haven without aegis is pure suffering now.
Literally every game that statue slut will get banished by seto kaiba.

>>173103572

I think people, me included, underrated how much of a tempo swing all that damage can create even if it is random.

>>173103829
>doesn't have a Storm Haven deck

>>173104075
Barely anyone plays sword and walfrid costs more PP (or needs setup to be played at 7)

Also he doesn't summon a bunch of garbage with rush in a class that loves to have their trash followers die.

>>173103572
Orthrus is only good because of Prince. Without a board to buff, she will be just a 1/2 that deals 2 damage at random.

>>173104075
Aggro shadow usually kills you with that final push. Walfrid Sword is too slow to beat anything but other trash decks.

>>173101935
it has storm actually it's like the swordcraft assassin card with a condition that's active almost all the time

>>173104251
pretty sure atk/hp buff is good even without catacomb dude

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>kill peepee poopoo with 2 May
>he concedes

>>173103505
Nerf what exactly? Make him do 4 damage fixed? Can't bypass wards?

>>173104251
She finally gives aggro shadow a 4-drop follower that is a good drop going first or second. She's better because of Prince, but she was the first card I tried adding to my RoB and worked well even with Angel of the Word still in the 3-slot.

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>>173104075

Walfrid is secretly OP but this thread gives me shit when I talk about how great he is

>>173104435
What I mean is that Prince ensures you have something for Othrus to buff.

If your opponent is doing it right, you won't have anything on your board to buff at all. At least that's how it was back in RoB for me.

>>173104473
make him not hit face

boom, he can do board wipe but he can't finish games on t10 or t6 for dragon

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>>173104251
If Orthus is good that must mean Dark Jeanne is great since she does Orthus' effect to everyone.

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worst idea or worst idea?

also gold and legendary 2 drops when?

>>173104515
its harder to keep a full board as sword than it is for shadow

>>173104595
Yes lets give haven a 2pp that wins the game

>>173104575
By theory, D Jeanne can work if you stack followers with big ass (Anything with defense higher than 2). It's just that most hagfags are birdbrains to try to buff their falcons.

>>173104515
post list, I've been messing around with Gwain and Walfrid

>>173104595
>what is elf girl liza
>>173104716
octobishop

Is it worth dropping angel of the word in aggro blood for grimnir?

>>173104515
Not him, but here is satancat's deck about gawain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KNbJPEsImE

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>>173104808

>>173103546
You need to run Lily or DoD if you want any chance against dragon as forest. You can't really put on enough early pressure in your typical wolfbolt deck unless you draw insanely well and go first, so you need to have something when they inevitably start dropping big minions on the board.

It's a rough matchup because it's really easy for them to heal out of range of bolt if you don't draw any roaches, and its hard to find a safe turn to play wolf without dying since there's tons of storm lethals they can fuck you with now.

>>173103546
>I pretty much auto lose to Dragon

I don't really feel like it's a good match either. I've heard that people are having more success with the pure roach deck but I can't make it work

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Beautiful, powerful and __________

im 99% certain shadow is more likely to get nerfed than dragon

>>173104997
huggable

>>173105009
Then dragon will have 90% winrate against everyone without luna countering him.

>>173104997
cute to boot

>>173104997

cute booty

>>173104997
I'll lick her cute feet because she took off her two boots!

>>173105073
problem is, luna beats everyone

dragon just forces you to build strong t1-t4 curves

>>173104716
I think she was meant for a gsun deck with lion, jeanne, and grail for non-stop board pings. Slow decks without absolute wincons don't work in Dragonverse unfortunately.

>>173104997
so garbage that no deck ever runs me

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>craft 3rd Grimnir
>do dailies
>open pack
>animated Grimnir

>>173105154
There are slower decks that could conceivably beat shadow but no one is going to play those because they autolose to dragon and aegis

>>173105210
>what is forest

>>173105210
B-But forest

>>173104926
>Spring Cleaning
This build almost made sense for a moment without that shitstain Gawain wasting slots.

>>173104515
>>173104075
Walfrid's effect is strong but shadow now outvalues sword in the board flood category. Sword's gimmick is pretty much storm and rush cards right now and Walfrid doesn't fit around that at all.

Doesn't matter if he gives permanent +2/+2 when sword doesn't have an easy way to generate massive amounts of sticky minions that survive board clears.

If they don't end up nerfing shadow's ability to generate a board, then I'm terrified of the kind of shit they're going to give aggro other aggro decks next expansion to bring them up to par. Literally just going to be the battle of board floods and board nukes at this point.

>>173105231
400 profit If your one of those retards who vial animated things

>>173105231
Just star them all just in case he gets nerfed

>>173105210
Feena and Gobu are honorary forest cards.

>>173104896
please respond
I'm thinking probably not

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>>173105293

Oh woops I posted the wrong list.

This is the list I'm running now.

And yeah, Gawain is not viable as far as I can tell, at least not with Walfrid.

>>173105231
this >>173105391

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Alright /svg/, give me your nerf list for ToG

My money is on Grimnir and nothing else

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>no hector
>no belphegor
>only 1c copy of some of the other legos
>THREE OF THESE SHITS
also four goddamn sneks

what do i do with her. i have no daria, or merlin or anything. i guess maybe dirt/spelboost that curves into flame leviathans and shit like lucifer since she doesn't void end-of-turn effects?

>>173105443
How does he help aggro?

what's the op shadow deck? is it just a bunch of cheap creatures + the skele dude?

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>>173098681

I dont need to play Around Dragon if my opponent cant play

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Stand proud, Shadow comrades. We alone can stem the Dragon tide.

>>173105509
>daria when ginger exists
>merlin when lou exists

Get on with the times grandpa

>play aggro shadow
>against haven
>play dragon
>against aggro shadow

Every fucking time. What is this shit? Cygames are you doing it on purpose?

>>173105547
how do u survive to turn 7

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>>173105231
Are you me anon? That just happened to me to.

>>173105509
ez 3k vials
otherwise sit on her forever and hope some nipponese player comes out with some control deck that will still cost you another 50k vials for a ded craft

>>173105506
I don't think anything is going to get nerfed, but if I had to pick a card then I'd say Catacomb or Zell

>>173104896
It's all about preference. This guy had a 16 win streak in Masters with this
https://twitter.com/tyapy1/status/849295091109724160

>>173105592

Windblasts, lots of windblasts

>>173104997

kys dubcuk

>>173105585
daria is still better, ginger sux

>>173105547
I did not expect to see this meme in /svg/

>>173105585
WHAT YEAR IS IT
>>173105636
goddamnit what a fucking waste of potential lego rolls. I'll sleep on it then wake up and vial them to craft something relevant.

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>>173105502
I want to fall for this meme

>>173105694
with a budget list? seems sus

>>173105787
I want my pouty barefoot loli wife back too, anon.

>>173105506
Pretty boring prediction, but nothing will get nerfed, I'm sure of it. Nothing seems cancer, nothing seems uncounterable. For now.

>>173105327
I'm genuinely concerned at this point that power creep has spiralled out of control. As you say, what colossal bullshit are they going to have to the give the current 'weak' classes to compete next set?

>>173105506
Grimnir will just become the new unica even though unica is still in favor, I don't think he really needs a nerf. There are plenty of low costing 3 damage tech cards for every class.

Sybil gives Dragon too much of everything it needs, but I'm not sure how I'd nerf her beyond just removing her from the game.

>>173105841
>nothing seems cancer
>what is Sibyl

>>173105636
>>173105770
You're going to so regret it in three months if you do that. The devs said that they have synergy plans for her in future expansions. They deliberately didn't give Rune (or at least Daria/DShift) much support since they were too prevalent last meta. Ginger literally may be the card to save Rune in the future

>>173104553
If a Dragon player who has been ramping so hard he has 10PP on turn 6 somehow also has you down to 4 health, you may need to reconsider the way you play.

>>173105836
https://twitter.com/tyapy1/status/849294926818951169
Take it as you will

>>173105836
looks exactly like the old aggro blood list

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>>173105787

This is the deck I brought to the tournament today and I only got knocked out in the 4th round by Ghostbomb, who went to the semi-finals (I took a game off him).

This was the victory screenshot I submitted for one of the matches I won.

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>>173105937
by the time 3 months go by he'll have made up the vials to make them again if it's actually necessary
getting to craft cards that will actually benefit him now and for the foreseeable future is a much better investment than hoping the devs actually follow through next expansion

>>173105635
Did you replace the 3rd unanimated one with the animated one and close the game?

>>173105891
>turn 5 play or no ramp
>cancer

Git gud.

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Just Rev it, bro :^)