EO Guides, References, Music, Art Books, etc.
http://pastebin.com/6cmH2LjS
>EO V Information
http://sq-atlus.jp/sq5/
>EOMD2
http://sq-atlus.jp/sfd2/
>EO V Skill Simulator
http://waifusims.com/EOV/skillSim.html
https://jii.moe/EkvsTrdY-.html# (Class Skills)
https://jii.moe/VyvBiy6dW.html# (Race Skills)
>EO V item and quest translation list
http://pastebin.com/c4uzKptj (Item list)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Oz2FGmL0QpE2-Qkb8zz-t_MP_WEpDo6gzlA29-wJIDw/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0 (Quest list)
http://pastebin.com/8sJhutN7 (Conditional drops)
>EO V color editor.
http://edit.s2.xrea.com/sq5/
>EO V VA list
http://pastebin.com/gM4KaYjs
>EO V Game & DLC.cia link
https://mega.nz/#F!XkJiHBIb!vzL2CLjZZVA-yAGS7UZgdA
Previous thread:
>>172217006
>>172551691
>not in EMD2
>EO2U never
Poor Zodiacs.
>>172552317
>>172552317
>>172553214
>>172553214
>>172553380
>>172552116
>EO2U never
Am I back to 2015?
>>172552116
What if zodiacs instead of alchemists in EMD2?
>>172553646
I wonder why Eve Online general was discussing Racoon.
>>172552317
>>172553214
>>172553380
>>172553646
Literally the same anon
>>172553903
Why won't they discuss a better game? Who the fuck even plays eve online?
I want an EO in high res.
Is that too much to ask for?
Fucking map gimick holding the series back.
Thicc bunny waifusnever ever
>>172554005
Guys, I have an idea idea - let's remove the map screen and mapping in general to have prettier pictures of enemies and walls.
Surely that's what makes the games great, right?
>>172554005
You actually made me laugh.
Wew, Cernunnos was a pushover compared to Fenrir.
Maybe it was because this time I actually had money to buy consumables and the classes are actually doing their thing.
>>172554221
Pretty much.
>>172554221
>prettier pictures of enemies and walls
No, just higher resolution. Same budget, same low-quality shit in a higher resolution.
Although it would get rid of the popping problems in EO5.
But yeah, sounds fine. Sacrifice a major gameplay element so we can have the see textures on larger screens.
>bushi buff never
>bushi and masurao in the same game never
>7th dragon samurai cameo never
thanks atlus
>>172554916
Awoooooooo!
>>172553941
Can't be, becauseI was one of them
Cute girls are forever
>>172555282
Nene, leave the cute girls alone
>>172554916
>th dragon samurai cameo never
she's one of the DLC
Do you think that dog is carrying the stick back to his master
EO5's true crime isn't the lack of flat, no expert mode or localization never.
It's the lack of Himeko.
>>172556990
>lack of flat
great
>no expert mode
doesn't matter unless you're autistic
>Himeko
literally who
>>172557346
>only boobs allowed
>difficulty doesn't matter
>doesn't know who Himeko is
>>172557646
>not liking boobs
>muh numbers
>you must know all ebin memes
>Game with only one type of boobs
Not localized
>Game with different sizes of boobs
Localized
Explain that anon.
>>172558175
>Game with only one type of boobs
>Not localized
>Game with different sizes of boobs
>Localized
But loli-only EO4 is localized while lolimancer and tittymaster must stay in Japan.
>>172558523
But are sentinels and sticks lolis as well
>>172554005
Leave EO to me!
>>172556990
But that's a plus.
>>172557845
>I'm a gigantic homo
>>172560154
Sorry for you anon, were you that one guy who liked scruffy medic in the last thread?
>>172560587
nah i just got triggered by you saying no expert mode is a good thing.
>>172560587
>dislikes loli medics
>wants lolis
Something doesn't match.
>>172560743
They are not getting rid of expert, they are axing picnic.
Don't you think there would be a gigantic shitstorm everywhere if the highest difficulty in EOV was on par with the Untold's Standard?
They go back to EOIV difficulties but rename them.
In EOIV they were called Casual and Normal.
In EOV they are called Normal and Advanced so casuals don't feel so bad.
From what people have said it is a bit easier than the Untolds but not on Standard level. And it's harder than EOIV so that's a plus.
>>172560587
Scruffy medic is the only good IV medic.
>>172561051
So just the right difficulty since 4 is mostly going into easy territory and expert can easily drop into bullshit?
Why is it that in Untold 1 they made the dragons difficulty linear? Like Storm Emperor -> Frost King -> Great Dragon. I thought they were all suppose to be relatively equal and their difficulty only varies by their boss patterns instead, but it's clear you're suppose to fight them in that order this time around.
>>172561560
Probably to stagger the bosses.
It seems they tried to spread the optional bosses throughout the game (Golem and Alraune quests being hillariously early) and having all three dragons clumbed together would go against that.
Or maybe they thought it would not be so bad to fight the same boss with minor alterations three times if the fights are further apart. Unfortunately for everyone the dragons still suck.
>>172561560
same in U2, I think Dragon's core has about half the HP as the Emperor
>>172561051
>Don't you think there would be a gigantic shitstorm everywhere if the highest difficulty in EOV was on par with the Untold's Standard?
There WAS such a shitstorm.
Of course it is harder than that, but advanced is still closer to standard than expert. Untolds can be way harder than EO5 and that's not okay.
The people saying it's picnic that got axed are just noticing that basic is closer to standard than EO2U picnic but they're ignoring just how big of a gap there was between picnic and standard.
>>172562625
So we need Normal, Advanced and Expert difficulty.
>>172562021
I can understand staggering them.
What burned me out of EO2U is how boss-filled the postgame was. You have to fight Overlord, Yggdrasil Core, Salamander, Wyvern, Juggernaut, Storm Emperor, Golem, Frost King, Hekatonkeyres, Great Dragon and Ur-Child in such rapid succession that I got sick of the game.
How do we fix EO's post-game? I feel the post-game needs to be a bit more than a glorified boss rush.
>>172563358
Have two new strata instead of just one.
Have side quests that fill in blanks more akin to the mimic one instead of making everything a boss.
>>172563657
>Have two new strata instead of just one.
This would definitely work considering by the very end you would be in your level 90s at that point instead of 70 or 80.
What if i want another subclass? I must rest/retire the entire character?
>>172563358
I really enjoyed the Hall of Darkness in EO4.
One floor that is one gigantic puzzle was pretty dope.
Especially since I did not have a great team to deal with the random encounters so getting through all of it was one of the most rewarding feelings I ever had in EO.
And while the big dark room in B2F was a bit much the smaller ones were also nice.
On the boss side of things I think theywent the right way with the quests leading up to the dragons (the dragons themselves were shit, unfortunately).
Storm Emperor was relevant even in the story and Great Dragon was heavily bound to one of the town NPCs so these bosses did not feel like they were there just because.
Well, Blizzard King came out of nowhere but he can get Wyvern's connection to Esbat and the rest can get axed.
Maybe keep Salamander and give him Golem's/Juggernaut's roll of being necessary to unlock the final stratum.
So at most one boss per floor, all floors either real labyrinths or puzzles that require some back-and-forth and if possible have some connections to stuff happening before the end of the 5th Stratum.
nagaki shinwa no hate
>>172564650
Resting will reset your subclass, give you all your skill points back (minus two for the levels it costs-but you get them back from leveling up) and make your character naked.
>>172564705
For a moment I thought you got Blizzard King and Great Dragon mixed up as if you hadn't switched from EO4 to EO2U.
And really, what were they thinking when they forced us to go through TWO extra bosses to unlock the extra stratum? And to make it worse, one of them is an unnecesary repeat.
>>172564705
>>172565183
Shit, you are right, I messed up.
As you have noticed the second paragraph is about EO2U...
>>172562625
Nothing will ever be like EOU standard because that also dumbs down the enemy AI and they don't use skills as often. And Expert mode isn't really that much harder, they just made it so that every random encounter is actually a threat since there's always enemy combos that are specifically there to fuck you over
I like Etrian Odyssey.
>>172568747
Dangerous opinion to have around here.
Where do you think you are? /eog/?
>>172568747
delete this
>>172568747
Well I don't.
I feel really bad farming formaldehydes with the item dupe glitch but fuck I just want to be done with story mode already.
>>172570030
EOU has real shitty drop rates for random stuff
>>172568747
>>172570839
what are they mad about?
>>172571026
They saw you coloring under doors.
>>172571084
Absolutely disgusting
>>172571084
Well technically there's only 5 people that can adventure in the labyrinth at a time so that means that at least one of them is capable of drawing the map. The real question is who's the suspect?
I had just enough to buy Eo4
I must be scrub though as I already died twice.... Maybe I'm not cut out for this...?
>>172574475
The start is a bit shaky if you're new. I got my ass handed to me too
>>172574475
The beginning is always the hardest part of the game.
until postgame anyways
>>172574475
EO4 it's your first EO game?
Remember that TP in this game is actually a luxury. You are not supposed to spam skills in every battle.
A balanced party is also good when you start the game, tank, healer, damage, mage and so on
>>172575040
Yep. Someone in the last thread said I should start with it, then get untold
Um.. my current team is a Healer, Landsknecht, Fortress, Runemaster and a Nightseeker.. Is that a good team?
>>172575040
>You are not supposed to spam skills in every battle.
After the first few hours, hell yeah you are, you just need to be smart about it and discover the best and most efficient ways to dispatch each enemy and the formations they appear in
>>172575436
I had pretty much the same team, but I had Dancer instead of NS. Could've done better with a NS, though, Dancer, Medic and Fortress was a bit too much healing
>>172575667
I was really tempted to use the dancer... I have all the other classes on standby just incase
(I'm not gonna lie, the dancer guys are really cute)
>>172576115
homo aside, dancers can stunlock bosses easily enough if you sub nightseeker and dual weild. forge for even more stuns
>>172576115
>the dancer guys are really cute
NO MORE GAYS
Has anyone ever bothered to translate the in-depth numbers of the EO3 japanese wiki? There was a lot of formulas and hidden stuff not found anywhere else(like skill speed and accuracy modifiers, etc)
>>172576946
>EOG in a nutshell
>>172576830
(´;ω;`)But... Ima girl though...
Oh that sounds like an investment I should make but I'm not sure who to get rid of though..
>>172577472
>girl
>>172577472
A R M O R O A D
R
M
O
R
O
A
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this 60 item meme limit is trash. it fills up after like 10 fights
>>172576946
*guitar starts playing*
>>172574569
Reaper reaper that's what people call me
Is TEC useless for Survivalists and Troubadours in EO1?
>>172579321
Why?
>>172575436
That party is as standard as it gets. You'll have an easy time as soon as you can deal with that random baboon.
>>172575040
>not supposed to spam skills in every battle.
Is this bait? Starting from midgame skills are too important to ignore and near the postgame you can pretty much forget normal attacks exist
>>172579484
Cause they all die.
>>172578089
do you fags unironically monitor a bunch of jap artists or there's some twitter search tool i don't know about
>>172579574
all you need to beat it is sand throw
>>172577472
>gril
>>172580185
I just toss some copypasted Japanese class names or something on search every once in a while and hope for the best.
>>172578089
>no spinoff jrpg about a kid guild
Atlus pls
>>172581501
just use a team of shotas/lolis
>>172581501
>Not always using loli characters.
>Being this gay.
>>172581620
>no waifus in team
unacceptable
>>172581792
>His waifu isn't a loli
WEW LAD!!
>>172581972
>>172582220
>Implying lolicons aren't the pinnacle of humanity.
>>172582619
nice try pedo
>>172582619
more like an evolutionary dead end
>>172581747
>tyrying to build a loli party in EO5
>not even close to enough options
>give up the game entirely
>>172583480
This is why EOV will never be localized
WE
WUZ
IMPERIALS AND SHIET
>>172584148
>>172584539
>healer
>with a black guy
seems legit
>>172583686
>make a reaper look younger
>give her balloon boobs anyway
They're not even the same size so it isn't copypasting, so just why? What the hell was going on with Himukai in this game?
>>172580185
It's called follow button.
>>172585374
No one uses reaper anyway so who cares
>>172585374
It was even worse with warlock. The difference is so slight that it's easy to miss. What he did for this game baffles me, he goes on copypasting stuff all over the place and then he goes and redraws a couple of boobs so similarly that it doesn't even make a difference.
>>172585374
>What the hell was going on with Himukai in this game?
Because they wasted all the money on retarded VA instead of giving them all the money to Himukai/Koshiro
>lolifags STILL mad
>>172586025
>>172579574
R.. Random Baboon..?
>>172585374
>>172585872
>>172586025
And then there are these two fuckers being the most distinctly different portrait pair in the series.
I wonder what would have happened to lolimancer were she not part of the initial batch.
Quick question: are you supposed to press a certain button when scanning qr codes or just sit and wait? For some reason it wants to scan some cards but not others
>>172586560
they auto-scan, try moving the code closer or turning on the light
>someone is autistic enough to compare boob size on different models
>>172586694
Gotcha. Thank you!
>>172586132
I'm a lolifag and I wouldn't want this nee-san replaced by another loli. She makes other, worse tasted people happy and they deserved to have her.
>>172586215
Emerald Groove, if you're there they'll start wrecking your party soon enough.
>>172586880
Don't underestimate boobs!
>>172586880
That pic is not about boob sizes, it's about how EOV was fucking lazy in character development
>>172586369
Necromancer gets special treatment for being an idea the devs had been sitting on since EO2, or something
>>172586880
how stacked do you think marion is
>>172587250
About this much
>>172587246
Is that true? Weird.
At any rate, I'm glad this Disgaea refugee was drawn before it was decided that flatties would only be allowed in the midget race, otherwise we'd have another (somewhat deadpan) pushup titty monster
I'm not even mad at big titties.
But there is literally no character with normal boobs.
>>172582220
tfw you always get a boner when lolis say this
>>172578594
You can get 5 extra slots with racial skills in EO5. I still never find use for it though
>mfw naming characters
Fuck. I forgot how much of a struggle this is
>>172587515
Zero Suit was a mistake.
>>172589354
http://www.behindthename.com/random/
>>172589414
It wasn't,
Fusion and Zero Mission are great games. Better than Prime trash games.
>day of stream
>untold logo comes up
>everyone's excited
>it's etrian odyssey 1 untold untold
>still no news for western EOV
>>172589354
Ironically it's easy for me to come up with character names. What I REALLY struggle with however is naming locations/things like Guilds or Homes.
>>172589589
Zabel isn't bad, but we might do better... Delicia could work, but what about Myrrine?
>>172589743
bad taste
>>172589769
>Story mode is all the same characters having a reunion exploring the labyrinth again but they're all super underleveled for some reason
>Labyrinth is pretty much the same except for some minor differences
>grimoires are back and are barely changed
>for 3DS
>>172589743
Zero Mission is great. The Zero Suit (specially it sticking around) is anything but.
>>172590581
The Zero Suit was fine until Smashbabbies and the rest of the internet latched on to it.
>>172591152
This
>>172589815
I just called my guild Baphomet. Trying to come up with suitably occult/witchy names is proving to be a challenge
>>172589971
>Delicia
I definitely wouldn't pick that.
>>172589743
Fusion Samus was far, far superior to Zero Suit Samus.
>>172589743
>prime trash games
>>172589354
I just name them with stale memes.
>>172589743
>Fusion
>I prefer my metroid as not metroid
I bet you liked Other M too faglord.
>>172591152
I didn't really like it showing up in Prime 2.
Which was its only other apparition before Smash.
>>172593064
I like Metroid Other M better thanFederation Force
>>172593563
Federation Force was just an excuse to kill the Metroid franchise for good.
Is EO4 better than 3? It's at least more balanced, right?
>>172594303
More balanced, less fun.
>>172594303
oh yeah
>>172594596
>>172594454
Why less fun?
>>172594826
It's just not nearly as charming.
>>172594826
More floors. Route splits. Sea quests. Fifth stratum is actually it's own thing instead of a shitty retread of the previous ones.
>>172595291
>Route splits.
Honestly, in a game so light on story as EO that's just an annoyance.
>>172593563
Prime games are the reason why Other M exists.
But this got really offtopic.
>>172597352
ded series general
>>172597352
Better than the scat talk.
>>172597658
Sekaiju no MeiQ: Shadow the the Dead Franchises.
Does Front guard reduces the counter damage from Bait?
Can someone explain me the Grimoire system in Untold 1 and why it sucks balls? And how does the second game fix that?
>>172598451
tl;dr
>EOU
>Too much RNG
>Stones eat up precious inventory space
>You won't know what the fuck they are until you return to town.
>Have to fiddle with a clunky poor man's demon fusion system to get all the skills you want onto one stone.
>EO2U
>Less RNG
>Stones get their own item bag
>Tell you right away what they are when you get them.
>Each stone now has only one skill and you can equip multiple instead of trying to mix a perfect one.
>>172598451
It's 100% RNG. You might get a grimoire chance which in turns give you a chance for a grimoire, and if you do get one you have no way of knowing what kind of grimoire it is exactly and they take up inventory space so you have to bring it back to your mansion, have them evaluated and THEN you can equip them and shit. There's no real logic determining what kind of grimoire you get other than your character's class and the enemies you fight. You might get a worthless one with little slots and shit skills or you might get a just okay one. It takes a lot of fucking farming to get good grimoires and it's really not worth it because you're just better off scanning QR codes at that point. Their implementation in the game is super awkward and I never really found much use for them except end-game where you can get the 7-King Grimoires which are OP as fuck. Even then of course those are annoying and tedious to farm.
>>172598451
I'm actually going to explain the grimoire system in 1.
First grimoire is base grimoire. The first slot is the amount of grimoires you can have, up to seven slots.
The second are additional grimoires you can combine with your first grimoire. Up to seven and the rest of the grimoires will disappear. So you can combine from first and second grimoires.
The last grimoire is related to equipment. It will allow your character to use either a weapon or a shield.
Is Sovereign tanky enough to sit on the front lines? Also how strong are their healing capabilities? My guild right now only consists of a Beast and War Magus and I know I'm going to have to get a Hexer or Dark Hunter for Vampire purposes, so that really only leaves 2 spots for some type of untyped/elemental damage. This feels like I'm in chemistry class again, trying to balance a chemical equation
>>172599221
>>172598451
Also, check this video. It will help to save a lot of time to get grimoires with 7 slots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3Um1h5ROlE
Speaking of grimoires I really need to know if Classic Expert in Untold 1 is doable without using any. I'll miss out on God tier skills like Action Boost, Limitless, or Focus but I don't think they're required.
>>172599554
>Is Sovereign tanky enough to sit on the front lines?
Hell no, they are not the same as their EO3 counterparts.
>>172599554
with a beast in the party anyone can go anywhere
I did A/L/A/M/B
>>172599623
It's doable with a competent party
>>172599935
Cool. Out of curiosity guild card data doesn't transfer in a New Game + right?
What good are protectors even for outside of Front Guard and Walls? I maxed those out along with any passive that looks somewhat defensive and I can't think of anything else to put points in. Everything else is either inferior healing skills, dumb shield attacks, and provoke and provoke accessories.
>>172600669
Which game?
>>172600824
Untold 2
>I'll send the Highlander on a journey to a faraway land for the sake of JUSTICE!
>Alright let's give him the shittiest spear in the entire World and some old rags then set him on his way.
What was the Highlander's mentor thinking?
>>172601102
They must live in a really shitty and poor village.
Poor Ricky.
>>172600669
line heal is actually p stronk
>>172599770
>>172599895
Went with Red Head Sovereign. Now how are Gunners elemental or bind skills. From what I read they tend to have low accuracy, though that shouldn't matter if enemies are locked down with binds/ailments
>>172601102
It's his luck spear, that's why he won't sell it. Also, I doubt he had to fight absurdly huge monsters every day back in the village, so he didn't need a Wyvern Spear or something similar.
>>172601392
She'll always have what's truly important.
>>172601896
>tfw no Hi bro to have non-homosexual gay sex with
>>172601896
>heart pupils
hnng
Playing U2. My team right now is So/WaM/B/G. Wick would be better to fill in that last spot, a Hexer or Dark Hunter?
>>172608056
Dark Hunter, you kind of lack damage
>>172608056
that seems more like an elemental party than something for DH or hexer
>>172608451
The Gunner is gonna be the one to handle elemental damage and later on the Sovereign will too with Link Order II, but right now I'm gonna get her healing skills up so I have some survivability.
The War Magus it's gonna be focusing on getting Ailing Slash + Vampire before anything else and I was torn between Hexer or Dark Hunter because I've never used either class before. Hexer seems to focus more on DoT and area effects whereas Dark Hunter looks to shut down single targets but moves faster than Hexer and has more burst damage to enemies with ailments.
It's not fair, why won't Sega milk the shit out of EO? 7th dragon's never sold as much as EO
>>172608056
>>172609397
whip DH. use viper to proc ailing slash + vampire. then DH can go ham with ecstasy. hexer's job is more or less ailment lockdown. fear / panic / bind will render an opponent more or less harmless but they can't do much else; it's a 1-trick pony. DH can inflict ailments but not as well. its main purpose is trance + one of them above two moves. it has the easiest damage potential.
How tall is she anyways?
>>172610708
All we can do is estimate based on this image
>>172610708
taller than me
Worst general.
>>172612293
This is definitely not true.
>>172600669
>>172600872
Sentinel Guard is amazing. I copies EVERYTHING to your party.
Resistances from accessoires, buffs, even effecty like a Guard that someone else puts on you or Bull Charge.
If you know a big area attack is incoming you can throw it out and everyone will take a tiny amount of damage without needing to give up their offensive equipment or effects.
>>172575436
>Nightseeker
In EO3, EO4 and the Untolds VIT is far more important than armor (beyond your body armor) to survive physical damage.
Nightseekers have a pitiful amount of VIT.
So in the beginning I keep them in the backline and have them Sand Throw at every dangerous enemy and only put them in the front with the switch sommand when enough enemies are blinded so they can deal damage.
Once your Fortresses tanking goes online you will no longer need that as at that point they should take all damage for the team but before that fiddling around might be a good idea so your Nightseeker doesn't explode to every physical attack.
>>172613175
Why do both of them look like crossdressers in this one?
Have I watched too much shitty anime and got hard wired to expect anyone wearing a butler outfit to be a girl and any maid without big boobs to be a boy?
>>172616517
wat?
>>172615250
See? I told you I was a scrub, because I have her in the front actually... (I dunno why?? I mean because I use taunt/auto taunt she's usually fine and can take at least one hit atm depending on the enemy) but yeah, I should boot her to the back
Matter of fact, here's my current layout:
Landsknecht-Fortess-(Formerly Nightseeker)
Runemaster-Medic
>>172610540
Why there aren't any more EO figures is a total mystery to me.
>>172618547
If you are looking for some tips:
The non-damaging runes of Runemaster are extremely strong in that they manipulate resistances directly.
There is one passive later on that lets you deal even more damage if you hit a weakness. And with the non-damaging runes you can create your own weaknesses.
At rank 6 they modify the resistance by 35%. So someone that takes say 100% damage from ice will take 135% instead with Ice Rune on them. So you deal 35% more damage (plus the 40% of the weakness passive).
But the true strength is against enemies that are slightly resistant against an element. Before they would take 75% damage, with the Rune on them they take 110%. So 46% increased damage (plus passive damage).
This means Runemaster can usually get away with focusing on two elements instead of spreading their skill points on all three.
There are very few enemies that is resistant to two elements but neutral or weak to the last. While there are some that are only weak to one element they usually are neutral to at least one of the others.
You can definitely pick ice since your Nightseeker has an ice skill so they can also make use of Ice Rune.
And then decide between fire and volt based on which kind of area you would prefer to effect (I usually pick volt but fire isn't bad).
When comparing Fireball Rune and Lightning Rune Lightning Rune deals more damage against potentially more enemies but it has melee targeting. So if your Runemaster is in the back they can only target the front row of the enemies with Lightning Rune while Fireball Rune can target anyone. (Lightning Rune has ranged damage though so it doesn't deal reduced damage from the back.)
>>172619895
Thank you kind soul ( ;∀;)
I normally use my damaging runes first to see if I need to even use my debuffs because my mp runs pretty fast and I don't have too much money so I gotta use my mp sparingly...
I don't have ice runes at the moment... It'll be the next thing I get though
>>172620387
For most normal enemies you will not need the debuff runes. Just blow them up as fast and as efficiently as you can.
(Blinding them is still a good idea for your Nightseeker if there are some harder hitting ones in the mix.)
But battles against FOEs (the walking monsters on the labyrinth map - I don't know if that term got specified in EOIV) and bosses can get challenging so getting the most out of your skills is important starting mid-game.
I came here to smug at you.
even in dead threads: F.O.E.
>>172619339
I love gunner's design so much. I wold buy an official gunner hat in a heartbeat. I wouldn't even stop for a second and consider it would probably be over 100 dollars.
>>172625195
It isn't even anything that out there.
The hat has a nice design and Jack Frost is part of SMT and Persona, two bigger and more well known franchises.
But it is low key enough to not be too weeb-like to own or even wear.
Perfect piece of merch, nothing done with it.
>>172624405
>eyebrows completely covered by hair
>you still can see them
They look like eyes. Is she bald and has an alien nest on her head?
>>172600142
It does. It's the only way to fill it.
>>172624405
>nenefag also loves reaper
pottery
>>172625195
Isn's that just a normal hat with a shitty smt pin, leafs probably sell hats like these and pin can probably be found on websites with weeb shit or ordered yourself
Do I need a Beast to use a palm Alchemist or a Protector will do?
>>172628435
they'll definitely be dying from time to time without a beast
>>172628054
>Isn't that just a normal hat
I've tried looking for one before, never found anything. Maybe I just didn't try hard enough
>>172628435
>palm Alchemist
why
>>172629419
Probably to feed a Chaser Landsknecht.
>>172625195
I wonder how difficult it might be to make one yourself. I would seriously fucking love a gunner hat.
>>172629419
I wonder if EMD2 Alchemists are Palm users.
>>172631579
Who cares, they will be nerfed hard with how ridiculously strong they are in emd
>>172631768
Alchemists aren't in EMD. They are a new class in EMD2.
>>172631838
probably would replace runemasters as resident magic throwing unit and their passives bar compression always sucked
>>172632067
They aren't replacing them.
>>172632290
then why would we need 2 magic units
>>172632343
No one knows. But all classes from EMD are still in and Buccaneer, Farmer, Monk, the new class Kenkaku and Alchemist join them.
That's why Alchemists could be of the Palm kind...
>alchemist only got in because himukai would only agree to drawing EMD2 characters if they included his favourite class
>>172632343
Why would you need two buff units?
>>172633267
buff units work differently though, while alchemist is just a worse runemaster bar compression
>>172634207
All I can read is DLC but it's enough to know why she is crying...
>>172634207
I want Peach in every game
>>172635210
soon
>>172634492
If you guessed Teach, you're right
>>172635830
No one wants an old and used hag
Falcon Slash or Hurricane?
>>172635641
>Super Etrian Odyssey.jpeg
>>172635978
Falcon Slash can only hit every enemy once so it's useless for bossfights (unless you want to hit summons with a weak melee attack).
Go Hurricane and pick up Double Attack and Fencer for the off-turns.
With both of them a normal attack deals more damage to one enemy than Falcon Slash.
>>172635994
Super Etrian Run
Etrian Odyssey Heroes
Etrian Badge Arcade
>>172630648
Looks simple enough
>>172636189
>Falcon Slash can only hit every enemy once
Well shit, missed that part of the description. Though I might go for a chaser since I'm running L/Hi/P/S/A.
I want to tie Hexer down and ring her bell
>>172638245
I think she usually is already tied down.
And ringing her bell will probably kill you instantly.
>>172639317
hexers don't have instakill skills though
worth it anyway with no eov localisation ever
>>172639540
EO2 Hexer Force skill had as flavor text that they are ringing their bell and it inflicted everything including instant death.
EOU Hexers have a petrification skill which is basically the same thing.
But yeah, it's worth a shot. We can be as dead as EO and maybe find the games in the afterlife.
Um.. Another question: is there any reason to save the gold drop items or should I just sell them all to Wynne?
>>172642687
>gold drop items
what
>>172642687
Some of them are required for quests.
But you should already know how to get them (you listen to people in the bar, right?) and most of them are 100% drop when you meet the condition for the drop, like kill it with thunder, for example.
>>172643048
conditional, anon.
>>172642687
There sometimes are quests that require you to get certain materials but they usually appear once you are first able to get said material.
So as long as you always check with the bar before selling your stuff you should be relatively safe.
There are a few exceptions to this rule of thumb but most of them are in EOU.
In other games (and to tell the truth even in EOU) I would just sell everything that I don't currently have a quest for and if I find one of the very rare exceptions get it later again. You safe a ton of time and bag/storage space that way.
Btw. gold drops are not that often just "rare". They are conditional drops.
For example the frogs in the 1st maze need to be killed by bash damage (through a mace from a Fortress for example) to get their fluids.
In some games fulfilling the condition only gives you a (usually rather high) chance to get the conditional drop but EO4 has really high drop rates all around.
I think most if not all its conditionals have 100% as long as the condition is met.
>>172643553
>>172643527
Okie dokie! I'll try to remember to talk to 'em! (I have been checking in every now and again but I haven't been seeing any speech bubbles)
>>172643553
>I think most if not all its conditionals have 100% as long as the condition is met.
Except for Amrita III and Amrita IV, they are 100% random drop.
What are the chances that EOV gets announced for localization tomorrow?
>>172645990
none
april 4th on the other hand...
>>172645978
how does she use the bathroom?
>>172645073
Town NPCs usually update their text after certain important events (like finishing a Mission from the Count) or if you reach a new floor.
EOIV is a bit of an exception. Sometimes they change their text if you enter a new land and sometimes floors have events in them that need to be activated for an update (especially in the 3rd maze).
>>172645270
I just checked and you are correct. Eerie Scales are a rare drop without any condition but they are still golden.
I was not sure if one of those was in EOIV.
However I am pretty sure there is no Amrita IV in EOIV - am I wrong? I never had any of those...
>>172645990
Same as you ever becoming a decent human being and getting a gf
>>172646129
I still have to decide what to do with that guy
>>172646136Her guild helps her
>April 1st they announce EOU3 and EOV localization
How would that make you feel?
Hat removal successful
What is step 2?
>>172646136
Since her robe is clearly alive it will also take care of feeding and maintaining her.
>>172646547
Hymen removal.
>>172646547
Boots
>>172646449
I could finally let taht last glimmer of hope go that persist through all of my attempt to kill it.
So relieved, I guess.
>>172646547
Apply hand to fluffy hair for gentle pats.
>>172646696
delet
remove blondes
>>172646297
>I never had any of those...
The flying mantis (FOE) in the last stratum drop them.
>>172648927
Are we still talking about EO4?
The last Stratum has Nightmare Rams, the three pumpkins and Moth Lords.
And the Moth Lords are found on the third and last floor and drop the material needed for Amrita IIIs.
>>172649302
Moth Lords, I meant Moth Lords.
>>172649302
Well, I can't say that you are not right, because I deleted my EOIV data and now I can't check ingame.
So let's leave at Amrita III
>>172647960
But then most classes would be gone!
No Protector, no War Magus, no Gunner anymore...
>>172651052
etrian x breath of the wild when
Would an open world etrian odyssey game still be an etrian odyssey game?
Assuming trash would take minimal skill
And bosses be gimmicked fights
and i got bored typing this out
>>172653582
Explore the land of Hyrule - one tile at a time.
>>172654005
>See that tree?
>You can climb it.
Yggdrasil would be a pretty neat setting for an open world game (well, as open as a giant tree can be) but I guess it's hard to actually design something like that in a convincing way.
>>172654642
>>172653582
It will probably end like Grimrock 2.
Unless you change the gameplay and genre of the game.
>>172652587
We'll make Etria great again and force them to change color
Hmm.. They sure are making a big deal out of this red bear... :(;゙゚'ω゚'): I'm a little worried...
>>172654005
No, openworld is a bad idea
>>172655217
open world inside the tree
6 floors, 6 real large floors to give the illusion of stratas
can use any weapon but have perk trees for use, like being able to mix restoration magic with whippy super fun times
>imagine a solo blonde dark hunter running around on her own using cone whip attacks that also poison
armor, while having function will also be used for cosmetic - or just high customization for bikini plate or not being squishy as fuck without being in super heavy armored plating unless you have a cute character with a cute face for those visor up moments
>climbing trees
>swimming in pools
>starting your own camp to rest
>FoE battles or all battles requiring think making to win
Confusion effects giving oscillating colors on eveything
Fear effects make you lose control of your character and make it hard to find medicine in your bag by stumbling or dropping it for a moment
Being connected to the internet will allow you to see the corpses of other people who also died
>>172654930
Couldn't you just play Dragon Quest XI if you want an open-world game centered around Yggdrasil?
>>172656895
dragon what?
>>172657119
C'mon don't play dumb if you know Etrian Odyssey then you would have to know about Dragon Quest. It's the natural progression.
>>172657202
dq is not popular in the states bro
>>172657304
neither is EO
>>172657413
but this is an eo thread, higher chance someone would know
>>172656895
Dragon Quest is turn based, a game not having seamless combat and exploration kinda defeats the whole purpose of open world to me.I don't even like open world games.
>>172656512
Well, unless you went completel berserk and attacked the kangaroos on the overworld the red bear will be your hardest fight yet.
But it's not that hard. Just look at what it's doing and keep track of how long certain actions take so you are prepared for the next time should you die.
>>172657989
I was curious and attacked one of the kangaroos but it started kicking my ass so I ran away..
Maybe I'll be ok with full retreat though...?
>>172658323
The kangaroos are stronger than the FOEs found in the maze and caves of the first land..
Well, Full Retreat should work since you have a Fortress that will likely survive anything the red bear throws at you.
But it means you need to save three Burst gauges and can't use them to deal damage.
If you just safe at the pole on the first floor dying won't cost you much progress since Full Retreat would bring you to the stairs anyways.
>>172657478
Anyone playing a niche series like fucking EO probably has enough general knowledge of JRPGs to know what DQ is
>>172658821
Ah... I should go back and save but... That's a long walk back.....
>>172659930
Between the red bear and the pole are three shortcuts on B2F and one on B1F.
With those it's not that far and once they are activated from one side they can be used in both directions.
>>172660717
Fortunately I made it back! Thank you! ╰(*´︶`*)╯
>>172656512
>:(;゙゚'ω゚'):
>╰(*´︶`*)╯
>>172661460
are you bashing kaomoji boya ( ◜◡^)っ╰⋃╯
>>172656824
>Being connected to the internet will allow you to see the corpses of other people who also died
Ok... one last question (hopefully) and then I'll leave you people alone
How do catch the little flying turnip looking monster? Because it keeps running from me.. (The guy at the bar mentioned it's name but I don't remember it.. It started with a "K" I think? Kopahs..?)
>>172661732
Watch their pattern movement.
It's always the same.
You'll be able to catch all of them later as you get a boost in movement.
And protip, before going to explore, check your world map as you can spot one of them before going to explore, sometimes.
>>172661581
And yes, emojis are cancer.
Are there any fun videos of Etrian Odyssey 3's Sea Quest co-op? Also imagine if they add new dungeons for the sea quests in Untold 3 and you can explore with 4 of your friends. That shit would kick ass. Oh and add wi-fi as well.
>>172661894
Yeah I was asking because there's one on the map now. It's 3 spaces away from me.. Do you think I could still catch it without the boost?
>>172661732
Cut them off by not starting at town but at a cave or the maze.
If you save before you leave town you can just reload and try again - they will move the same way they did before loading.
>>172662261
Probably. Trial and error is your best friend.
Just reload if you fail.
>>172662261
If you already are on the map there is nothing you can do but hope it flies in your direction. They don't actively avoid you.
Also they only activate once you get to their overworld map. You can freely move in labyrinths (to get from the pole to your ship) or other lands.
I believe they despawn at midnight if you don't cause them to flee earlier than that.
>>172662535
Um.. I tried the Old Mine because that's the closest but it just ended up putting me back a space. Unless I'm wrong, I'd need to be in front of it so can cut it off (it moves up one, then turns left to run)
>>172662810
I saved at 7pm so I should be fine..?
>>172663685
They usually run to the edge of the map in a fixed pattern to escape.
If you have saved just go to the overworld and fly around a bit while memorizing its path.
Then you can choose where to start best so you can cut it of.
Not all paths are possible to intercept without the speed boost.
>>172664014
Um.. here's the patch it seems to take?? (Sorry for the shit quality)
>>172665041
Oh wait no that's wrong actually
I just watched it and it went like this
I doubt that makes a difference though
>>172665041
I don't think you can catch him yet. not until the small maze in the bottom left is open, then you can intercept it
>>172665041
>>172665468
Too bad, that's not a route you will be able to get in the way off.
Don't worry, these guys are not too rare. Just watch your map and you will find them every now and then.
>>172666218
What kind of Ricky is this one?
>>172666612
Bushi subclass.
>>172666612
Foxy grandma one
>>172666037
>>172665640
Aw! Oh well, back the original bear business. Thanks anyway though
>>172666218
>>172666612
Looks like a female Bart Fatima
>>172667531
who
>>172667987
Ricky
I hate bunnies. Fucking lightning shitting bastards.
Why can't I have thicc bunny girls instead?
>>172670320
I wonder if Wyvern gets a sore throat from vomiting beams for days on end.
>>172670619
What level is wyvern anyway? I think i forgot to fight it
I like the aesthetics of the DS games better.
It feels like I'm playing a sega genesis.
>>172670194
Because japs hate you and want revenge for the nukes
Bunny waifus never ever
>>172670976
nice OPINION
>>172670976
leave namefag
>>172670880
It's a post-game boss. It think it might be between Manticore and the dragons.
And don't you need to defeat it for Great Dragon to spawn since its teeth create a sound that keep the red dragon away (despite Great Dragon being way more powerful).
>>172671229
I didn't bother with postgame for now
maybe someday but i definitely wanted to kick wyvern's ass someday and forgot about it later
>>172670880
>>172671229
For some reason they made Wyvern nearly on par with Storm Emperor in terms of stats.
Wow rip me I guess
Full retreat doesn't even work in the bloodbear battle lmao
>>172671941
Interesting. I didn't think this fight was one of those that make escape impossible.
But if you were paying attention you should now know when to defend.
The Defend command cuts damage in half so it's useful for times like this.
>>172672259
it's better to stun him i'd say
>>172672259
I thought I'd be fine? I mean I used strike guard, charm eye, power break, Regen waltz, Volt rune, lightning rune on my Runemaster and Medic, I guarded when it was charging and it wasn't even at half..
Sigh.
>EOV will never get a translation patch on April 1st
Survivalist but not shit.
>>172673802
>it took them 7 games to do that
>>172673971
delet this
>>172673971
EO1 Survivalist was good because Multi Shot got another hit at max rank.
So they actually could deal really good damage.
>>172674161
their bow damage was on par with other weapons is a huge factor
>>172674087
make me fgt
Ban the gorefag
remove guro
remove vore
remove scat
remove bully
remove hat
remove nene
>>172674768
>>172674768
remove ys
>>172674768
>remove bully
>remove hat
>remove bully
>remove nene
Two bullies after wanting to remove it.
Way to go.
>>172674851
DELET THIS
>>172674871
hat removal only for pat
So are the classes in V a "fusion" between pre existing classes?
Everytime I read the jap wiki when they describe a class they say this class is a combination of this and this one from this game.
>>172674860
I'll remove you.
>>172675553
Then it's ok.
But removing Nene is still bullying.
Poor neneposter tries so hard to be happy.
>>172676230
No happiness allowed
>>172676230
Umm excuse me?
I can actually play the game for one, and I have the best taste here so yeah I'm pretty happy.
Your turn.
>>172676230
Look, it was only some friendly banter, it's april fools, right hahanene is alright
>>172675907
It's easier to explain things by comparing them to things most people already know about.
Also the things you can do within EO's limitations have been explored pretty well.
There are still things they can and will do but putting out ten classes that don't resemble anything that came before is pretty hard and would probably not allow for good parties.
There is still enough new stuff we haven't seen in EO5 like a working dodge tank or Necromancer's summon bombing.
>>172676404
>I have the best taste
>nenefag
>namefag
>>172676404
Fuck off from this board. Fucking attention whore.
I want to fuck Regina's vagina
>>172676853
Who doesn't
>>172677171
Still waiting that source
>>172676404
It's ok, you don't need to try that hard anymore.
We can all suffer together here.
>>172674851
... that artstyle.
its one of those artstyle mimics, right? those talented fucks who can adapt to many many artstyles and confuse taggers on pixiv, right?
RIGHT?!
>>172678183
https://exhentai.org/g/1041556/ebdf0a4687/
>>172678346
>https://exhentai.org/g/1041556/ebdf0a4687/
no artist tag tho?
>>172678346
whew the inn bunny girl giving the handjob was the hottest of the bunch
Worst girl>best girl
>>172679119
Finally, someone with taste.
>>172679119
nenefag pls
>>172679119
rocky>all
>>172678849
post crops
wtf i love nene now
>>172679684
You're a bum, Ricky.
>>172679119
I have to agree.
Best girl is just a slut and overhyped.
Worst girl needs way more attention.
>>172680218
Sarashi pls
>>172680218
Himeko pls
Character themed bonus episodes where you play as a predetermined party of characters in a unique dungeon, like for example Ren and Tlachtga meeting Visil for the first time or Marion along with the rest of her guild encountering the Great Dragon for the first time.
>>172680912
Atlus dosen't know how to build parties.
>>172680218
Teach pls
Cute
>>172681103
You don't like parties so straight forward you fall asleep while playing them? Ignoring half the mechanics in the game is what EO is all about, right?
But they showed their variety in the next game by giving us such a gimmicky set-ups they needed to utterly overbuff their only damage dealer so the party actually could finish story mode.
>>172682204
Pretty sure the party will still work if you replace faaf with dark hunter and survivalist with hexer
>>172680912
Play as Guild Beowulf and experience how bad stacking a Beast and a Protector really is.
>>172682812
At least you can defend forever
>>172682621
Come to think about it I'm pretty sure my classic mode party ended up being DH / H / WM / So / B
>>172683060
Because that's like the best overall loadout in this game
>>172683184
Which proves that other anon's point that U2's story mode party isn't particularly gimmicky outside of one actual class switch and a substitute
>>172683184
Not without a troubador. Now that class was broken.
>>172683463
What is so broken in troubadour?
>>172683060
Did you get enough damage without Preludes and Crusades?
I would think you would run into problems with accumulated resistances before you manage to chew through the massively bloated boss HP.
>>172683637
There's this system where each buff/debuff affecting the same thing applied after the first one gets its effectiveness reduced (for instance, if you stack 3 attack buffs and then throw a defense debuff, the defense debuff will have absolutely no effect). TYroubador has no less than three skill ttypes that bypass this system, namely preludes, fantasias and their force break, crusade.
Plus a skill to copy individual buffs (like said preludes, or compression) into other units.
The little fuckers just don't care, they're a god mode button.
>>172683638
Been a long while but I don't remember having too many problems, H / DH / WM is a really good core
>>172685446
At least we are only missing one game.
With the series dead there will be no EO6 or EO2U.
>>172674161
Also Apollon, good damage and chance of stun. And that skill that gives first turn to the target.
>>172674161
>>172686773
Survivalists were good because they were straight up the best damage dealer period.
>>172679684
Clubber Lang > Rocky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41TGtPHoOlI
>>172687397
Cute explorers killing cute things.
>>172571084
>not coloring under doors
I bet you don't color under treasure chests and draw the walls around them either, fag.
>>172680912
Vision quests?
>>172688965
what
>>172689087
Soul Hackers had these flashback sequences where you played some other character.
Also what is this shit?
Touch fluffy ears
>>172689429
I got that too, google is going fucking nuts
>>172689429
Code monkeys at google don't give a fuck anymore
Deal with it
>>172688965
>>172689429
I guess? One comparison I have is Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky where you can special character episodes as you further progress through the game.
>>172689429
Be glad you didn't get one of those annoying ones where you have to draw around something and it's SO clunky.
>>172690139
>The "select images until none remain" captchas where they're all stacked on top of each other.
>>172687592
Don't call them cute.
>>172690360
dat filename
Do you think femdragoon will make a good mom
>>172691746
I want to rape a Masurao(male)
>>172694630
>>172696783Never.
>>172696783
How much en would she ask for that service?
>>172699478
All en you have
>>172691746
men cant be moms
>>172701935
Prove it to me.
>the ant level in EO1
>Two Iron Crabs and Two Evilroots
WHY THE FUCK IS THIS ALLOWED
>>172706362
>>172710834
Give sauce, I need to follow any fan of Zodiacs
is there an english patch out yet for eo5 or are we still waiting on fatlus for an announcement
sorry if this has already been discussed, havent been to the general since i finish eo4 last year
>>172714437
We're at atlus's mercy because the game doesn't play nice when its data gets tinkered with
>>172714437
There is literally no way to mod EOV to get an english patch.
>>172714708
>>172715029
thats really fucked up. i dont have much hope for localization. its been 8 months without a word. sometimes i wish that they had just given up and shipped P5 with the trash tier localization so we could atleast have a chance of an announcement.
now it just seems impossible
>>172715029
how come?
Nene vs Ricky
Who would win?
>>172720645
my dick
>>172715829
no way to recompress the game after it's unpacked
>>172724662
But there have been undubs of both Untold games, and I believe EOU uses the same compression as EOV, no?
>>172725325
Poeple tried and it blew up in their face and broke completely is all I know.
>>172718338
That is the wierdest way to try to commit suicide I ever saw.
Did someone take her gun or what?
>>172728773
>"Look Ivan, if throw bullet into enemy, not have to clean gun of soot and more time to drink"
>post yfw they announce the localisation today
>>172718338
Silly Freddie, that's not how you use lipstick.
>>172720645
In an actual fight?
It's not like Fencer can actually deal damage without people activating her chains.
And even if she tries to evade and slowly counter Ricky down Gunners can shot themselves to heal.
So Ricky needs to leg bind Nene and it's GG from there.
>>172725325
But EOU was never repacked succesfully, right? It remains as an NTR plugin.
Even then, an undub seems easier than actually editing files (and maybe dealing with fonts)
>>172718214
Why is her reaction to the Buccaneer getting eaten just being pissed and jaelous?
Fucking vorefags.
>>172694630
>>172738867
is this EO?
>>172738967
I wish
EO could really use a normal RPG spinoff, literally all they had to do is correct the flaws and put in characters, but let's destroy everything instead, fucking sega
>>172740391
Purple Princesses are the best.
>>172741814
At least i now know that Gradriel is a cameo, that Kamitani actually made a fucking Saturn game and that japs are assholes (not like i didn't know that before)
If i see one more fucking rat throwing useful stuff at me i would get really fucking mad
>>172744445
Wait until you get to the owls and as soon as you enter a room they confuse you, you are unable to heal because the medic right next to you in the corridor can't see you and you drop your equipment to the void.
>>172741814
I agree. Purple princesses are the pinnacle of video game character design.
we need a :thinking: medic
>>172745286
I'm glad Ricky knows what's up too
EMD2 localization confirmed. FUCK.
EOV IS FUCKING DEAD
https://twitter.com/SpikeChunsoft_e/status/847967038710595584
https://twitter.com/AtlusUSA/status/847916498387468288
Medic a slut
SLUT
>>172748559
>no link says anything about EMD2
???
>>172749325
>Falling for april fools
>>172749506
You can fall for something then something exists
>>172749663
then what?
>>172750995
Dungeon RPG must die.
>>172751237
T O R E V E R
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>>172748967
Looks like a dude.
>>172748967
Medico had to be a slut or everyone would have picked onee-san Medic every time.
She had to be such a massive slut it rubbed of on her recolors.
>>172733157
>what is blinding thrust
>tfw no bunny waifu
Why does EO3 have multiple routes anyway? Is it even worth it to do all 3 routes?
>>172755397
It only takes like half an hour each after the first playthrough because you keep your level and equipment so you just plow through everything except the final bosses of each route
Bandanashark got a bit chilly, will you warm her up?
>>172755668
So what's even the point? Do you even get anything?
>>172755921
A new class to unlock for your third playthrough.
>>172755681
>doe
>not making all of them a version of furyhorn
missed opportunity
>>172756356
I mean, you get the class unlock and the item to get a very good piece of gear from each of the bosses, but then what? Unless it only changes up until the fifth stratum, and the last one has actual reasons to unlock all these things.
>>172757860
Nah, the boss of the true ending (which is cryptic as fuck to get in the first place) is just a bit harder than the others but nothing that would be challenging after having to run three times through the game.
It gives you the most amount of backstory but that's about it.
>>172760710
You rarely see that Samurai portrait.
Everyone has the hots for fox ears.
>>172761771
Because it's a better portrait, human female samurai is pretty popular as well, just untagged mostly for whatever reason
Sarashi x Himeko OTP
>Due to cuts in government funding for the arts and our spring break trip to mootxico, we've had to combine a few boards. Try and make some new friends!
Are we save yet?
>>172762239
>still not baiting his hook
>>172759271
But there's also the rest of the last stratum.
And the last Sea Quest missions, too.
I love this sheep.
What are the chances of U3 even happening considering the Jap sales of U2?
>>172767038
Pretty much guaranteed because autists will go berserk if a third game doesn't get untold while previous ones do. 3 is also loved a lot for whatever reason
>>172767292
3 is like the MHFU or the Nocturne of the series
It actually made it good
>>172767397
>MHFU
>good
FUbab get back to your containment general (or better to reddit, i want my general back)
>>172767292
>3 is also loved a lot for whatever reason
In what game (that's actually good) do you have pirates/ninjas/robots/aliens and cute girls?
>>172640265
Belatedly, the force skill is called "Caprice"
>>172767936
SRT OG Saga
>>172767936
Metal Slug
Is there actually any EO game where you can play without a dedicated healer? Medica doesn't really come cheap and costs too much inventory.
>>172768435
Literally no reason to not have a healer unit unless it's an autism run
Picnic shouldn't need healer as well
Maybe 5 and pseudo-healing units if that counts, both the most powerful 4 endgame parties mostly use medic for star dropping stuff as well
>>172768435
The only one I tried was 2U. With a Troubador and Highlander it wasn't that hard.
>>172768435
EO2U later in the game.
You just need the legendary grimores stone effect that gives you a chance to heal whenever you are hit.
But it on a Beast with Lick Wounds and Auto-Lick and they become borderline unkillable.
Was gradually unlocking skills as you level up a skill mastery the best thing Untold has ever done? Not sure about IV because I haven't played that yet.
>>172768789
Unless your whole party is beasts, how would just one of them being unkillable help?
Do grimoires get passed down to ng+ or you have to farm everything again?
>>172769013
hit-taker
>>172769013
Beasts are fucking tanks, that's why. If your Beast can't die then neither can your party. Not hard to grasp.
>>172768992
It makes those required masteries less of a sink
IV and V just don't tie your skills to the mastery passives
>>172769152
>>172769183
I get that, but enemies will still target other members, no? What about party-wide hits?
>>172769318
>I get that, but enemies will still target other members, no?
>What is Hit-Taker
Try a Beast out anon. They're pretty great.
>>172769408
>>172769519
Oh, nevermind then. Seems kinda broken, tho.
>>172769318
Hit taker makes beast take hits for other members so unless it gets instakilled/petrified/too much damage/a streak of shit luck it shouldn't die
>>172769556
Nah Beasts aren't necessarily invincible, they can still die if you're not careful. They're basically an alternative to a Protector.
>>172768435
EO3 had that bandage generic skill, it was ok I guess.
>>172769013
Your Beasts task in your group is to redirect all damage to itself.
Both Auto-Lick and the legendary effect have a high chance to heal your Beast for a nice amount every time it gets hit (after all hits of a multi-hit attack are done).
So no one besides your Beast ever takes damage. Your Beast heals itself to full passively constantly.
You don't need a healer anymore.
Not that the legendary effect is easy to get, mind you.
>>172769017
When starting a NG+ you have a bunch of options what you wnat to take over.
Grimoires is one of them. So yes, you can take them all with you.
Why would you ever use front-line Buccaneer?
>>172768435
All of them.
>>172771456
Rapiers are superior to Guns, but still that is weird how the game itself insists they're a front-line class despite having a weapon that works in the back-line just fine.
>>172771529
How would you do it in EO 1-3?
>>172771456
Because rapiers have more ATK than guns (especially when you get the Jolly Roger early - its like a fifth stratum weapon you can get in the second stratum) and their skills are better.
Hanging can actually be used as opposed to pretty much any gun skill.
>>172771656
>rapier buccaneer
Might as well just use Gladiator or Front-line Arbalist then
>>172771960
Both of those have serious TP issues.
Even with their damage you will need to refill them even in boss fights unless you want to play with four people and spam Dark Ether.
Buccaneer can easily afford to throw out strong skills in every fight so they are less annoying while exploring.
>>172770262
Are those options exclusive or you can carry all? Like if i want grimoires i need to let go of whatever else is there?
>>172769152
>using hit-taker past the second stratun
>>172772209
I guess you're right.
>>172772269
You can carry over your characters, grimoires, money, items (in storage AND inventory), maps (with like five differnt options for those for whatever reason), codex and stock in the shop - and ingredients for EO2U.
Behind every of these options is a Yes/No choice and you are not limited to how many or few you can select either way.
Can you get legendary grimoires via QR code? I know some guy on Gamefaqs hacked illegal enemy grimoires onto a guild card so it should be theoretically possible, but I haven't found any codes online yet.
>>172773419
You can get whatever skill on grimoires.
You can't get added effects.
Can't believe nobody has made one of these brain memes with the way to map doors.
>>172774406
Don't let your memes be dreams.
Do it, just do it!
>>172774406
I thought about it but then I remembered I fucking hate that meme
>>172774406
Stale meme.
>>172774926
Can't find a base image for the door mapping options
I don't think they tested links much both in 4 and EMD
>>172774406
>tfw to intelligent too not map under doorshappy you meme-loving fuck?
>>172775298
You mean like they did with Warrior's Might in EO3 or Crossing the Sanzu in EO5?
>>172775609
Not this one, the expanding one
>>172776075
perfect
>>172584539
Delete this.
>>172776518
[BLACKED]
>>172776075
Switch Nene and Arianna and it would be right
>>172777484
>Arianna that high
>>172775838
>Crossing the Sanzu
Is it really that powerful?
>>172600865
>>172776075
Now do one of these with the doors.
>>172777604
Yes
>>172777870
>>172778667
Thank you
>>172778667
Time for reddit karma
>>172778667
This is so wrong, but also so right.
>>172777957
>pretty
>kind
>strong
>dumb
>>172768435
V.
Passive heals are what's in.
>>172778667
DELETE THIS
>>172780370
You being rude to cute girls is the reason why EOV won't ever get translated
>>172781573
That's not how maps work
Arianna is literally perfect
Wew they weren't kidding about Muspell being an absolute pushover
>>172777621
It's not braindead-easy to pull off but otherwise it's the most broken thing the series has seen. On league with defender+immunize.
>>172778667
Second from top master race reporting in.
If the game doesn't have secret door markers, secret doors are marked with both a wall and a door.
>>172782794
Even more broken than links?
>>172768435
By dedicated healer do you mean an unit whose primary job is healing or one who can heal every now and then in battle?
Because if it's the former, it's completely unnecesary.
>>172783842
Links aren't even all that broken... but yes, way more than links. Way more than anything that imperial or fafnir can do too.
What party in Untold 2 can get me the maximum possible damage, no matter the cost to defense or anything else? This is assuming I have access to both Fafnir and classic classes.
>>172783989
Stuff like Medic, Monk, War Magus, Prince, etc. It usually is necessary to at least have one of them.
>>172785609
But only the first three are healers. The last one is a buffer with some healing on the side.
>>172785957
It has tons of ways to heal, though.
>>172786804
that doesn't make it dedicated
a dedicated healer sits there spamming salve every turn
>>172786804
And it loses to any actual healer and is not really fit to be the single healer for most parties. Healing on orders is a nice bonus, not the main reason to use them.
>>172785053
You might want to check some videos against Ur-Mom (the dlc boss) to see who does max damage.
Fafnir and Dark Hunter are the one that deal the most.
>>172786804
Yeah, but onlike medic and monk, a princess actually is doing something useful most of the time.
In my opinion, completely dedicated healers like medic, monk (sure they have their punch branch but...) and herbalist are not only unnecessary but also a waste of a party slot.
Reliable healing skills are a different matter, but characters whose only real use is healing are only useful as a safety net for the newbies and the unskilled.
>>172785053
Just put Fafnir on steroids and you can blow up everything except Ur-Devil in one turn (after two turns of set-up).
So classes would be Fafnir, Dark Hunter (for Snake Eyes), War Magus (for War Lore boosted Warmight), Troubadour (for Prelude and Fantasia) and Sovereign (for Attack Order and stronger Circle).
Put your buffs/debuffs on (Fantasia first so it gets overwritten of Fafnir), get an ailment on the enemy to make Snake Eyes stronger (if needed use Rose Prison), throw out Accelerate on Fafnir turn 2 and on turn 3 everyone besides Fafnir uses a Circle.
Point Blank -> Wave -> Nova and everything should be dead. Maybe put a Double Action on Fafnir to salvage the try should someone die before getting their Circle off.
>>172787412
I think the simple solution is to NOT have only 1 dedicated healer class. Introduce other healing classes that have different playstyles. Same thing goes for tanks. It wasn't until Untold 2 where having a Beast was a legitimate alternative to a Protector for example. Point is I don't think damage classes should have all the variety.
>>172787412
>monk
Just pick up Princess subclass and do everything better than an actual Princess.
>herbalist
Go smoking route with a Lunarian and Smoke Bomb your enemy.
Medics however were only useful in EO because Immunize was broken and their Phys ATK Up scaled way too good allowing them to also deal damage.
Since then they always were bad.
>>172788120
>Go smoking route with a Lunarian and Smoke Bomb your enemy.
I didn't think I needed to state which specific path I meant (further compounded by the class that's supposed to do it by default).
Anyway, didn't earthrun have better LUC than lunarian for the weed route?
>>172788837
Earthrun has better LUC but Lunarian is second and not that far off.
And Lunarian has far, far better INT which Smoke Bomb scales with greatly.
So you sacrifice some ailment accuracy for the ability to actually deal damage with your healer.
>>172789184
Hadn't thought of that. I didn't use either herbalist in my playthrough and usually I go for other ailments when possible rather than poison.
So what is wrong with unit's job being making sure other units do their job no matter what
>>172789739
Nothing. Everyone loves troubador.
>>172789895
But what if i don't like dootman
You'll cowards don't even color under doors
>>172789739
Nothing provided that classes are all unique and don't have to follow a healer-DPS-tank archetype so you're not forced to have to have a specific party composition with 1 tank, 1 healer and 3 DPS where the classes in each role are all all more or less fill the same purpose.
You'll cowards don't even fuck sheep.
Is it better to go Self-Defense or Deadly Resolve first for tank Beasts. EOU2 expert btw
>>172792453
Why is the Farmer's sheep a monster girl now?
>>172793595
>he didn't show so much affection for his sheep that they turned into monster girls
wow what a pleb
>>172792453
Ahmed pls
Good Zodiac subclass?
No Gladiator or Ninja broken shit please
>>172796263
Shogun
>>172796263
actualy synergy is not broken
>>172796263
Bucaneer for boost limit and elemental limits
>>172795636
So exactly what does she do in battle?
>>172798361
>he never fought dream eater/nightmare ram
EOV when
Dicky
>>172776075
You missed one.
>>172801248
Not on the front cover.
Not a girl.
Not a best.
>>172802653
One of these statements is wrong.
So what level should I fight Primevil in Standard Mode of Untold?
>>172803446
Depends on what you're going to be using. If you go for the Analysis + Action Boost + Torrents, you can fight it in the 70s, if you don't want to cheese it, I suppose around 90. Make sure to either write its pattern down or look it up online, or you might not have a chance even on Standard.
>>172776075
Can't tell if this is ironic or not.
too lazy to post a Ricky today
Translate it weebs.
EO2 23F can suck my cock. easily the worst floor so far
>>172807840
whip it out then
>>172804658
Gotta read it bottom-up.
What's a good party setup for V?
I've been messing around with the character creator for hours and I'm having difficulty picking just 5 characters I want to use. I'm hoping a decent party build will allow me to narrow it down a bit.
>>172817076
masurao fencer dragoon
warlock herbalist
>>172817076
just use all the classes. and then rotate them out
it'll take a little longer, but you'll find what you want to use that way
>>172817076
This is what killed EO
Instead of people experimenting and trying stuff out on their own they ask others on the internet. And then we get the untolds which give you a party
Makes me fucking vomit
>his waifu doesn't have the legendary name
>>172818695
I seriously want to kill this stupid bitch
She looks like trash, she'll sound like trash, she's the most boring race, she's a shitty overrated class that should have been cut after EO2, she has a dumb name, and people idolize her since she's on the cover of the worst game in the series since EO3
>>172818959
>since EO3
>EO3
>bad
This is how we know when an anon is shitposting
>>172818959
calm down teach
>>172817076
Probably not the answer you want, but experiment and prioritize classes you actually like using. Resting only costs 2 levels so it's really not even time-consuming. Everything's more or less viable in V, unless you're indirectly asking for broken comps.
>>172819315
I still can't believe she sold her ass out as DLC.
And Medico joined her just so she wouldn't feel bad.
>>172818959
So how likely is it that the EO team is working on deep srange journey?
>>172819751
Considering they worked on the original, very.
>>172818653
Calm down Teach, untolds still offer classic mode. And if it means we can play through the best EOs with an updated engine and soundtrack then I'm all for it. Besides, plenty of newcommers have picked them up for story mode only to discover the joy of classic later on.
>>172822669
That's not what I was complaining about.
People nowadays no longer like to experiment or to try things out. Story mode in the Untolds is a perfect example of this - no reason to try something out, no thinking for yourself, just stick to what the game gives you
>>172792453
>fucking sheep when you could fuck shiitake instead
>>172789472
Smoke Herbalist has access to Blind, Poison, Paralysis, Panic and Petrification.
Also Stun but most bosses don't really care about that one.
At last, I have finally become the Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold: The Fafnir Knight (新・世界樹の迷宮2 ファフニールの騎士 Shin Sekaiju no Meikyū 2 Fafuniiru no Kishi available on the Nintendo 3DS™
>>172827590
Damn, I hate name dropping in series
>>172827590
And now go for Ur-Devil.
>>172831965
Nice hips.
And having her hair under her shirt is something I can see Arianna doing.
>>172818959
>she has a dumb name
Don't bully!
>>172833032
ded
>>172832913
>>172833069
That face...
>o<
>>172835616
It's like the japanese don't care about making quality anime anymore
>>172835879
Has anyone besides Miyazaki ever cared about quality?
>>172836726
He is right.
It ruined most other franchises for me.
It's one thing to live in shit your entire life but to get a breath of fresh air makes it so much harder to dive back into sewage.
>>172836726
>creator is a neckbeard
this can't be real
>>172824834
>trial and error until you find what classes are strong this time around
>thinking
>>172838015
>by neckbeards
>for neckbeards
It actually surprises me more that so many games have developers that aren't neckbeards.
On the other hand it could explain why so many games are shit.
>>172835879
Yes, because low quality anime didn't exist before because I only remember the good ones.
>>172839329
You can look at each class and all their skills from the beginning of the game. I mean yeah if you want to go full trial and error go ahead but you can still experiment and play around with what you think works best.
The untolds eliminate that middleman and just gives you what works best without any cognition on the part of the player.
>>172840501
Yes, you can look at the skills.
Who knows which ones are useful this time around.
There are some obvious shit like you want buffs and a healer but you have no way of knowing which buffs and which healer are worth using until you try them out.
>play my 4 file again
>all skills are out of whack, have to rest like everything
>don't bother to map past echoing library 2
Um.. I'm probably just being stupid (as usual) but.. Who's nene?
>>172842420
A girl from a shit tier anime
>>172840501
Dealing damage ranges from hitting like a wet towel to nuking them into a low orbit.
Trying to inflict something ranged from basically never happens to happens nearly every time.
Increasing Damage ranges from 20% (Palms) to 100% (Compression) or even 200% if we allow Charge effects.
Just from reading the skill descriptions it's very hard to conclude which class is good.
Or did you immediatly know that in EO2U Ronin is competely useless while War Magus can punch holes into a tank?
And the Untold parties being what works best...
Medic is trash tier since EO2 and generally the EOU party is low on control and buffs.
In EO2U Survivalist and Sovereign are both low tier classes and the party is overly focussed on Fafnir performing and Chloe getting in some good hits before accumulated resistances shut her damage down.
>>172842371
>Go back to earlier dungeons
>See what kind of newfag I was when I first started
>No shortcuts mapped, doors mapped all wrong, different icons for treasure chests and material points than later dungeons
>Just about everything is fucked
>Have to go through all of them again just to remap
>>172842420
The blonde Fencer on the cover of EOV looks like Nene from the anime New Game.
>>172819751
>>172820216
Fuck this, Fatlus, nobody wants remakes of your bad games.
>>172842420
There was an anime where one of the main girls looks just like the default Fencer portrait for EOV. See >>172833069
Or the fencer looks just like her.
Whatever, they look similar, like Ranma and EOIII female monk
>>172843212
>tfw i realised trap floors have its own icon in 2U like at floor 23 or something
>2U is the latest game i played
>>172843339
He said Strange Journey, not Radiant Historia.
>>172842420
>>172843315
For comparison.
>>172840501
>untolds
>give you what works best
>>172843427
Strange Journey is almost unsalvageable unless they revamp the entire gameplay.
Radiant Historia kinda would need to be improved a lot, too, we'd need way more timelines and hopefully a more interesting combat.
>>172843315
>>172843362
Ahh thanks I see the resemblance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf03W9oA4Cw
>characters which reached max level still suck EXP
For what purpose
>>172843818
>Strange Journey is almost unsalvageable unless they revamp the entire gameplay.
How so? It's just regular SMT but with a battle system that isn't broken.
>>172847464
It's pretty broken
>no press turn
>Demon Co-Op means you NEED to have every demon be the same as your alignment
>MAG only gives elemental defence, no MC skills use MAG to deal damage, even Elemental Gun skills are STR-based
>too many damn redundant skills, physical skills cost MP instead of HP, etc
>Macca Beam
>>172847894
>>no press turn
>I need to be repeatedly rewarded for doing what I'm supposed to be doing anyway
And the MC being weak is the point, mc supports the demons, not other way around.
>>172827590
>Not naming yourself ATLUS USA
you're not the true Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold: The Fafnir Knight
japan was a mistake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHOgJfZcc3U
>>172847894
>no press turn
Yes, that's why it's not broken.
>>172847894
>no press turn
Hell yeah bro, we should make it another game where you can kill the boss in 1 turn because you know its weakness!
>demon coop
It actually gives the alignments of demons more purpose than just flavor or a few spells
>mag is useless
Well yeah. You're a marine. You're not some twink wizard who gets rammed up the ass by his brawler friends at night while you help them with gay ass spells during the day, you're the one doing the ramming
>redundant skills
Every. Single. Game. Has. This. And also thats how it should be for phys skills. I'm glad 4 and 4A kept this
>macca beam
Hahahahahahahaha
>>172849682
Press turn doesn't mean that, press turn means
"every turn you must hit the weakness and afterwards do what you want to do on your turn"
I agree that it's a shitty system, but this is more accurate than "killing bosses in 1 turn".
>>172847894
no press turn, but your team and enemy troops are still limited 3/4 members as if there was
item hunts needed to even interact with standard dungeon gimmicks like hidden doors
exploring regularly interrupted to return to base for nonsense plot developments
>>172849682
>kill the boss in 1 turn because you know its weakness!
I don't think that's really the problem with Press Turn, the fact that in the late half of the game any group attack will make enemies lose turns because it will hit a resistance in your party is much worse.
I want smtfags to leave
Solo Fortress finally made it to the Cursed Prince.
What stands out to me about the 5th Stratum the most ist that bunnies are fucking assholes. Including mine.
Even alone they can kill me if they get lucky and they tend to be in groups that are already a pain on their own.
>>172853053
Time to get lightning resist gear and a lot of lube for prince and his ignition
>>172851530
Jesus I keep both open, I didn't even realise this one is actually etrian odyssey general.
>>172853243
Isn't chaos drive multihit instead of party wide?
How do you plan to survive? Aegis Ward?
Why is 4's soundtrack so good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYkqmMLONDY
>>172853478
10 hits but accuracy 60.
I have Dancer subclass so I'm expecting to get hit 3 times at the very most.
>>172819751
Don't worry it's an upgraded port so it's not like they're gonna be focusing on it 24/7. Even then the EO team is bigger than ever before.
>>172854007
Which Fortress portrait are you using, anon? This is important.
>>172854263
>>172854582
>purple
>>172854582
Contrarian, huh? I'll let it slide.
>>172855060
>you'll never do lewd things to a flatress
How come medics are designated slut class but protectors are even more lewd
What a fucking disappointment.
Cursed Prince was a complete pushover...
He only used Ignition once and wasted two out of his three turns using Chaos Drive. 4 out of the 20 attacks he threw at me actually hit.
Sure, his Overdrive took out 500 of my 600 HP even through Defend but a simple Calm Breath healed me to nearly full (since I had Regen Waltz running all fight).
And that was the only time I actually needed to use Calm Breath. Even if he hit me with Fire Drive (which did more than half my HP through Defend) Regen Waltz and Holy Smite were enough to heal me up.
And because of the two hit of Ivy Thrust I wasn't even TP starved like against Logre.
In fact, Logre was the harder fight in pretty much any respect. More damage, more TP starvation, a way to actually kill me with Vanguard -> Shock Drive.
So far he was the only boss that took me four tries. In fact Iirc he is the only one I did not kill in one try.
And I believe Logre took me over 200 turns while the Cursed Prince was down after only 196.
I'm only level 70R56 so I could have been 14 levels higher in this fight...
The most evil thing the Cursed Prince did was using Kingly Ambition when his Blade was cooled, which meant I had do Defend twice and waste a turn of Regen Waltz.
No wonder his father left him.
And he only gave enough XP for 2/3 of a level-up.
Truely anti-climactic after how much the 5th Stratum raped me...
>>172857017
Protectors are pure and devote their lives to defending their party. Medics sell their body for candy.
>>172857518
>No wonder his father left him.
>>172857602
I wonder who can be behind that post
I'm confused on how the "Attack" stats and other stats like AGI correlate. So if you use a physical AGI skill, does it draw from both AGI and Attack? What about elemental attacks, or composite attacks like Flame Saber?
>all those alchemist using fire
>still cannot remove trees
>>172858453
In EO2U your ATK is derived either from your STR and weapon ATK for weapons that use STR or AGI and wATK for bow and gun.
Damage formulas are currently unknown but it's likely that the ATK stat you see in your Status menu isn't actually used in the formula.
I believe - and here I'm just guessing based on how it worked in EO4 - the formula uses the wATK of your equipped weapon and either STR or AGI depending on what type of attack it is.
You ATK only gives you a approximation about how big your damage potential actually is.
TEC on the other hand does not use wATK at all. The damage formulas are also unknown but testing has proven at least that much.
All that matters for both dealing and taking TEC based attacks is TEC in both Untolds - besides resistances.
Flame Saber is a STR based attack.
It takes your wATK and your STR and hits against the enemies VIT (since enemies have no armor).
The composition of damage types is only important when resistances come into the mix. Composite attacks always hit against the resistance that allows them to deal more damage.
So for example:
If Flame Saber hits an enemy that is resistant against fire and weak against cut it is a STR based cut attack.
If it hits against an enemy that is weak to fire but neutral to cut it is a STR based fire attack.
>>172859178
If Salamander setting his home on fire does not remove the tree your Alchemists playing with matches have no chance.
I know I shouldn't have expected too much from story mode, but Bertrands twist was really interesting and I'm kind of sad the party brushed the revelation off like it was nothing. Trand was the only character in that party with any type of depth, and I really wanted the game to expand on it more. That's one of the reasons I kinda like story mode despite preferring classic, it shows more of the lore behind the Etrian universe.
>>172860339
The rest of his lore is in the inn conversations
>>172858453
AGI and STR use the same damage formula, they just use the appropriate stat.
>>172860537
I picked Trand for all inn convos after the twist but other then that and the occasional food preparation dialogue I wish there was more. I was kinda hoping after that that Chloe and Flavio would also have some more interesting backstories revealed, but I guess Trand is the only one who kinda broke the "generic class but with voiced dialogue" mold.
>>172860339
It's one of the reasons I want EO3U so badly.
EO3 had the biggest backstory dump of all games. But with the new lore established in the Untolds it's kind of uncertain which parts are still canon.
>>172857518
>And I believe Logre took me over 200 turns while the Cursed Prince was down after only 196.
He only overdrived once in almost two hundred tries?
>>172861419
He only used Ignition right after falling below 50% and never again.
Several other bosses behaved similarely.
Logre used both Rear Guard and Vanguard only once.
Boiling Lizard used both hit Fire Wall (deals damage whenever he is attacked) and his egen buff only once.
Kibagami only used Deep Breath (ends Blood surge and heals him) once. A few turns later he reactivated Blood Surge and slowly killed himself with it.
Either those skills actually are only used once to push your party over their limit and end the fight that way or the enemy AI breaks when there are only one or two party members (since I took the guest charaters with me - although only Wufan was actually useful).
>>172862246
>A few turns later he reactivated Blood Surge and slowly killed himself with it
Why is Kibagami so useless?
>>172862403
Atlus hates bushi
>>172862579
Why is bunny surprised?
>>172862579
scruffy probably tried to do lewd stuff to her
Is there even a way to make bushi usable as a main class or they are completely irredeemable?
>>172863827
Dude, it's EO4.
>>172863827
Even if you take no Bushi sub, only Bushi main and a Medic main beating the game is barely a problem.
It might get a bit irritating in the post-game but even that is not too hard with sub-par groups.
>>172863827
I think every party combo is usable in EO4, even not optimal ones.
>>172863827
Spoken like a true cookie cutter user.
>>172864895
>pretending not to be one
ded
What makes EO so good compared to other dungeon crawlers?
>>172867403
It has a lot of classic RPG elements so it's less boring to play
>>172866108
Spoken like a true cookie cutter user
>>172867403
Relatively high production values for the genre. Fantastic music. Drawing the map.
>>172867403
no stat rolling
>cute cute cute characters again
>EMD1 definitively taught me I don't enjoy mystery dungeon gameplay
God dammit.
>>172867857
>I don't enjoy mystery dungeon gameplay
Enjoy being a fag
>>172867857
>loli monk instead of ranmonk
this makes me sad
>>172867857
>>172867941
To be fair EMD is bad even by Mystery Dungeon standards. Still I'm glad it exists because there's no other game like it.
>>172867403
lolis
Also, simplistic and comfortable menus
>>172868130
>EMD is bad even by Mystery Dungeon standards.
literally wrong
1 and 2 Landsknechts > 4 Landsknechts
>>172867941
I just can't work up the same level of interest when the maps are randomly generated. It takes something away from that glorious feeling of progress regular EO gives me.
>>172868250
The game is buggy as shit and EO's mechanics are awkwardly implemented in Mystery Dungeon.
>>172867990
>lolimaster instead of sleepymaster
We'll be sad together
>>172868465
Sleepy is a pretty good girl. One of the few portraits in 4 I genuinely like.
>>172867990
Loli monk is legit cute, but Ranma outclasses her so hard I've never been able to use any other monk. Loli probably deserves her turn.
>>172868409
The two games are pretty much contradictory when it comes to mechanics. I don't know who thought this would be a good idea.
>>172868403
there's still a feeling of progress in say, Shiren's Table Mountain because the sections of floors have their own atmosphere, dangerous enemies to avoid and lore
>>172868762
I mean on paper it's a good idea, signing up a guild of adventurers of different classes to explore a mystery dungeon, it's just the execution is really off.
>>172868409
>is buggy as shit
like what outside of sovereign glitch?
>EO's mechanics are awkwardly implemented
much better than pokemon mechanics desu
>>172869013
>much better than pokemon mechanics desu
literally how. pokemon and mystery dungeon legitimately go well together.
>>172868762
both series share some strengths though, they just played to the exactly opposing elements
a proper attempt would need enemies that can cooperate in a meaningful way, actually interesting item and skill combos, and a focus on footwork to avoid the DOEs
>>172869178
He just wants to shit on the more popular crossover.
>>172868908
>igning up a guild of adventurers of different classes to explore a mystery dungeon,
I don't have any experience with other MDs, but I can say I would have liked EMD much better if I could actually trust the rest of my guild to not be pants-on-head retarded. The AI was supremely frustrating.
If they can clean up that and the UI for EMD2, I probably will end up getting it.
>>172869178
Dumbass AI is especially bad with all the variables, recruiting instead of capturing feels wrong and shit like "let's bar evolutions until postgame for zero reasons at all" doesn't help either
>>172869505
Given the setting, recruiting is damn fine. What isn't so fine is how random it is.
I'll give you evolutions. Reason is they didn't want to redraw all portraits for all evolutions, but it's still dumb.
Otherwise, every other pokémon mechanic present in the game works better than EO's.
>>172869384
>avoid the DOEs
You're meant to fight DOEs though, which is probably why they made them so piss easy
>>172863827
Bushi/dancer for multi normal attacks and TP regen along with evasion and party buffs - like that dance being able to remove your own self paralysis
Or Bushi/Nightseeker because sometimes you can double special attack stuff, and bloodrage effects poison damage
>>172871649
Does katana counts as sword for skills in 4 or it only works with faaf in 2U?
>>172872303
cant remember, but ganna say a katana is a katana with katana skills.